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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm Lisa gar

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Speaker 2: My guest is Mihail Clerk. He is a licensed mental

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Speaker 2: health therapist and an amazing dream analyst. And I have

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Speaker 2: a question Mikail about nightmares. Are they also forms of dreams?

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Speaker 3: Yes, nightmares are anxiety dreams and night mars are actually

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Speaker 3: really important dreams. It's a little bit like if the

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Speaker 3: body has fever and we get ill. A nightmare is

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Speaker 3: also an alarm system of our own soul or psciety

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Speaker 3: that something is off, and most of the time it's

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Speaker 3: our relationship to something inside ourselves or sometimes outside ourselves

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Speaker 3: that isn't Usually it's one and the same. It's not optimal.

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Speaker 3: So people come to me and say, oh, Michel, I

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Speaker 3: want to get rid of the of the nightmare. But

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Speaker 3: actually the better approach is how can I befriend the nightmare?

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Speaker 3: Because once we turn to monster, or even to the

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Speaker 3: anxiety dream of not being able to find the classroom

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Speaker 3: or not not ready for the test, we will see

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Speaker 3: that that the nightmare will disappear and our relationship in

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Speaker 3: day to day life to the scary phenomenon also changes.

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Speaker 3: So for people that have nightmares, they're they're of course horrible,

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Speaker 3: that's why they have nightmares. But if you can find

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Speaker 3: a different way of relating to it, turn towards it,

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Speaker 3: often just writing it down or making a little drawing.

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Speaker 3: Research shows that that already starts lessening nightmares. So you

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Speaker 3: don't have to live with nightmares, especially if people have

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Speaker 3: a lot of nightmares. It's not necessary. There are there

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Speaker 3: are very effective ways to to get rid of it,

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Speaker 3: and it's almost always by turning towards it, just like

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Speaker 3: if your body has fever, don't ignore it, drink water.

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Speaker 3: Something is often.

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Speaker 2: Look for the signs within it, but don't be afraid

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Speaker 2: of it. Because have you ever had the experience of

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Speaker 2: having guides show up in your dreams that are that

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Speaker 2: feel so real?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah it is, And well I think that one

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Speaker 3: in the dream space or in the dream that the

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Speaker 3: dream is just another frequency, and in that frequency, we're

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Speaker 3: closer to our guides, we're closer to our deceased loved ones,

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Speaker 3: and it's easier for them to to visit us and

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Speaker 3: even show their physical manifestation because we might feel them

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Speaker 3: in this reality. But it's harder to see them. But

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Speaker 3: then the dream they come to us and hopefully they

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Speaker 3: say something that is helpful. But it's also a place

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Speaker 3: that we can use as a starting point, say, oh,

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Speaker 3: spirit guide, creat you were there, and then continue in

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Speaker 3: this reality by having a conversation, writing, looking for signs,

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Speaker 3: and then looking again at the dream, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: see that that that relationship strengthens. But in another way

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Speaker 3: that people could could try about that, then you might

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Speaker 3: go to lucid dreaming a little later. With lucid dreaming

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Speaker 3: as a dream in which you know that you're dreaming,

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Speaker 3: and there you can just yell out, spirit guide, do

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Speaker 3: you have a message for me? And then your spirit

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Speaker 3: guide will come to you and tell you something that's

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Speaker 3: really good for your life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was curious about lucid dreaming. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of different interpretations of it. How do you instigate a

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Speaker 2: lucid dream? How do you start it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just for the listeners to tell, a lucid dream

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Speaker 3: is a dream in which you know that you are dreaming.

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Speaker 3: So you're just you're walking around and you think, hey,

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Speaker 3: there's Grandma. Oh my gosh, Grandma is dead. This must

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Speaker 3: be a dream and then you're in the dream space

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Speaker 3: and you can proactively engage in that environment. And there

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Speaker 3: are several ways to get locid. The two most common

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Speaker 3: art just before you go to bed, tell yourself tonight

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Speaker 3: in the dream, when I'm dreaming, I will see my hands.

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Speaker 3: When I see my hands, I will realize I'm dreaming.

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Speaker 3: Tonight in the dream, I will realize I'm dreaming. And

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Speaker 3: you tell that for several minutes and then you kind

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Speaker 3: of set the intention or you prime your mind for

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Speaker 3: seeing your hands, and then you can come lose it.

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Speaker 3: The other technique throughout the day to reality checks, and

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Speaker 3: the reality check is am I dreaming? And instead of

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Speaker 3: immediately saying, oh no, this is not a dream, do

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Speaker 3: a test. For example, pull your finger and if your

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Speaker 3: you can can fly, and that doesn't mean I jump

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Speaker 3: let a date? There you go, You're in a dream.

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Speaker 2: So that's a way that you can solicit answers from

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Speaker 2: the unconscious or from guidance is by going into a

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Speaker 2: lucid dreaming state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can. You can do all kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: I once yelled out in the lucid dream state. I

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Speaker 3: would like to experience unconditional love. Then I was and

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Speaker 3: I was jacked in a state of unconditional love that

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Speaker 3: lasted a minute and then it's evaporated. And uh and

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Speaker 4: You had that experience.

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Speaker 3: I had that experience and it was it was beautiful.

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Speaker 3: But it also indicates we we live in the in

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Speaker 3: an responsive universe and uh uh we we're having to

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Speaker 3: figure out how can we best engage this this universe

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Speaker 3: But so, yeah, about how to how to engage and

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Speaker 3: lucid dream you see it directly. But another fun thing

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Speaker 3: that people can do is just yell out, is there

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Speaker 3: then see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that invites in though any brand of

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Speaker 4: Could that is there a way you could filter that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? If you if you're in a proactive uh state,

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Speaker 3: your own best will, best will and for best will

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Speaker 3: of the world around you, such as even the question

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Speaker 3: then uh uh, the dream will generate and helpful response.

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Speaker 3: You might see a scary monster. That monster might say, hey,

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Speaker 3: and then and then you know, oh, I've been running

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Speaker 3: he asked the monster who are you? And monster said,

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Speaker 3: I'm a discarded aspect of you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's great, that's fantastic. And tell me a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the dreams of flying. When someone's having

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Speaker 2: a dream of flying, is that what does it commonly mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Again, what people can ask themselves is first what

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Speaker 3: But they could could let's say they fly themselves. What

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Speaker 4: Okay, what about the opposite? What about falling?

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Speaker 2: Those good streams of falling where there's the bottom falls

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Speaker 3: then you'll sometimes people say, doesn't mean that you dye

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Speaker 3: is more symbolic. It doesn't mean that you literally try

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Speaker 3: have a somewhat multiple interpretations. But one is it brings

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Speaker 3: be a bit more grounded. Other times it represents and

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Speaker 3: descent in your life where you've got where you're going down.

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Speaker 3: You might just be fire from your job and then

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, sorts of things. What about dreams of

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Speaker 2: pregnancy or having a baby or yeah, I mean, have

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Speaker 2: you in your experience ever seen or heard of men

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Speaker 3: Yeah, men men sometimes also have it. Dreams are very

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Speaker 3: it's not literal, what what does and what does? The birth? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: exactly the beginning of something new, and the new thing

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Speaker 3: Maybe you had an idea of starting a business or

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Speaker 3: a very positive indication that something in your society or

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Speaker 3: so then follow up on it. So that's also how

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Speaker 3: You could even say, oh, I've been thinking about this book,

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Speaker 3: to work on it, maybe then would dream about being pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Great time to get your pencil and paper out of the.

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Speaker 2: Drawer and find out what type of new thing would

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Speaker 2: be coming. So there's many different interpretations of a dream

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they all refer to the birth of something new.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you recommend a certain way of recording the

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Speaker 4: Of the night.

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Speaker 3: Well, the only thing with the only real, hard, important

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Speaker 3: a it's a little bit of question. I'd only do

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Speaker 4: But otherwise, is there like a format to right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you do thought bubbles or bullet points

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Speaker 4: I mean, what is your technique?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm old school. I have an a dedicated dream

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Speaker 3: journal with a pencil, and I just write it down

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Speaker 3: and to make a suggestion for people, write it down

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Speaker 4: Well, now what do you mean by that? Well, in

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Speaker 4: the like, you'll give me an example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, instead of I walked in the street and I

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Speaker 3: and I run or I kicked the crocodile, And then uh,

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Speaker 3: it's easier to go back in or what is the

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Speaker 3: what is the experience that I have? Oh, I walk

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Speaker 3: I see something that's really scary to me, and my

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Speaker 3: habitual responses run. And then I know, okay, why would

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Speaker 3: you dream show me this is? This? Is this going on?

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Speaker 3: Then I might think, oh, yeah, every time I see

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Speaker 3: you can go even back in the dream and think,

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Speaker 3: relate to the crocodile, because the crocodile has some assertive,

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Speaker 3: crocodile in your life or even imagine that crocodile is

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Speaker 3: will find that you have a different way of being

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Speaker 3: able to relate to boss. And now you practice it

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Speaker 3: long enough, and that energy of the crocodile becomes becomes

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Speaker 3: more proactive in your own life. So dreams always provide medicine.

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Speaker 3: They not only provide an extra very diagnosis like oh

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Speaker 3: you when you see something scary in your run, but

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Speaker 3: in the dream is also the medicine. And the medicine

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Speaker 3: is very often that what you fear, the crocodile. The

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Speaker 3: crocodile has the sort of energy that will be helpful

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Speaker 4: Uh huh. So I love this.

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Speaker 2: I mean I love the fact that you can really

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Speaker 2: x rays through dreams. Do you ever notice that there's

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Speaker 2: collective dreams that are happening where there's several different people

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, what comes to mind is that a lot

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Speaker 2: Like this symbols of maybe other galaxies visiting us through

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and uh and uh. There's a variation in

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