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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review London, the defense dominated

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Speaker 1: the Giants.

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Speaker 2: And Debo was phenomenal in his debut as a Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Bill Cross Samerta had an historic day.

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Speaker 2: Brian and what do we have?

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 1: We'll find out on the Booth Review. Welcome into the

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Speaker 1: first Victory edition of the Booth Review podcast. I'm Braham

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Speaker 1: Whiteside with Big Fletch London Fletcher. Were brought to you

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Speaker 1: in the Big Bear AI Command Center Studio. A week

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Speaker 1: one win and a dominant one. London on defense.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know not to too my own horn,

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Speaker 2: but I'm going to toot it just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: On a couple of shows we did Command Center Players Club,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned I thought that our defense would take top

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Speaker 2: billing in this game. And it wasn't about the offense,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of starting off slower or whatever the

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Speaker 2: case may be, because I thought they were. They had

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Speaker 2: a great game, from running when it thumps to rushing

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Speaker 2: the football. But I just felt like our defense was

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Speaker 2: being overlooked coming into this game. We have been talking

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Speaker 2: so much about our offense and the additions and Jaden

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Speaker 2: then the second and all that, and we talked a

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Speaker 2: lot about the Giants and their front foward, their pass

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Speaker 2: you have Russell Wilson making his debut with the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. But not enough attention, in my opinion, was

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Speaker 2: being paid to our defense, and I particularly felt like

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Speaker 2: our defensive line was going to really set the tone.

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Speaker 2: We was going to dominate in the trenches. And lo

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Speaker 2: and behold, yesterday that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, believe it or not, the Giants had the

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Speaker 1: ball longer than the Commanders did, not by much. Is

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Speaker 1: it pretty much an even split? I mean about a

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Speaker 1: minute now that you can turn the ball over in

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Speaker 1: the game, that's probably one thing defensively, if they're going

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Speaker 1: to find something that they want to talk about, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be that. Maybe a couple of penalties, but

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Speaker 1: when you give up six points, you keep them out

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Speaker 1: of the end zone. You have two red zone stands,

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Speaker 1: did one in the first half, one that really sealed it,

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Speaker 1: you know that it ensured that they were going to

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Speaker 1: win in the second half. There really isn't much to

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Speaker 1: complain about it. And kind of to your point, I

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Speaker 1: think the depth and size of the defensive line was

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Speaker 2: The physicality. The physicality it started in the trenches. Javon

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Speaker 2: ken Low first running play by the Giants in the backfield,

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Speaker 2: negative yardist play. He made his presence felt right away.

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Speaker 2: De Ron Payne was an animal. Dietrich Wise, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was so many Dorn's arms shown. There's so many

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Speaker 2: guys that had made a huge impact in that ball game.

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Speaker 2: On the back end, the coverage was outstanding. A lot

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Speaker 2: of times Russ had nowhere to go with the football.

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Speaker 2: He had to hold on to the ball. We were

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Speaker 2: a couple of sacks, really confused him with the coverages

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Speaker 2: we showed some some variations show him, hey one look

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Speaker 2: look like a man a man defense. Did we morph

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Speaker 1: You know, this is one of the big differences I

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Speaker 1: not particularly good down the stretch finishing games. They talked

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Speaker 1: of turnovers they were looking for, they weren't getting the

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Speaker 1: and through the summer they were really the story here locally.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not nationally because Jane Daniels is going to take

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Speaker 1: it doesn't move the needle nationally. But we were watching

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Speaker 1: more reminiscent of what Dan Quinn and Joe Witt were

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it about Russell Wilson. This

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Speaker 2: They did. And it wasn't just the sacks, because we

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Speaker 2: great rushing game, rushing plan in terms of how they

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Speaker 2: They're getting two yards past the quarterback, and these offensive tackles.

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Speaker 2: You got good pressure from the interiors and there was

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Speaker 1: A number of these players that really had an impact

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Speaker 1: Dietrich wise really stood out to me across the board.

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Speaker 1: He was making plays on both sides of the line.

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Speaker 1: He was running off the line, making plays in the

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Speaker 1: screen game. He was really disruptive. He had one unfortunate

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that, yes, because you highlighted him, talked about

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Speaker 2: the making plays on the screen game. Coming out of

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Speaker 2: making tackles. The bootleg play when they tried to boot again,

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Speaker 2: that led to another inaccurate throw. Very disciplined. They were

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Speaker 2: had a phenomenal game and you're gonna you're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at the You look at it, you see, Okay, four tackles,

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Speaker 1: Think he is an example of it's not just the

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Speaker 1: and this was their first real go together. Like remember

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Speaker 2: Out of this. It is hard to engauge, well, not

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Speaker 2: you don't know. And we saw it manifest this way,

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Speaker 2: thing about New England, they're so detail oriented and everything

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Speaker 2: like they harp on so many of the little details,

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Speaker 1: So the other one that really stands out of the

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Speaker 1: newcomers is Javon Kinlaw. Yes, so kin Law throughout the summer.

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Speaker 2: Is we call that he's heavy handed, and when people

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Speaker 2: He has quickness too, like he's six five and what

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Speaker 1: He looks enormous.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever shoot Desters?

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Speaker 1: You don't do that because he will break your hand,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you mentioned the product sut glasses of whoever

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Speaker 1: You're one of the nicest people I've ever met. We

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Speaker 2: I turned it to big fletch on the football field.

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Speaker 2: This I was London off the field, a big fletch

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Speaker 1: Review, let me ask you about another newcomer, Von Miller.

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Speaker 2: I'm I feel really good about von where he's at.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Jacob Martin was outstanding. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: Dietrich wise, very underrated signing. And when people have talked

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Speaker 2: Camp, but yes, and that ball game there was some

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Speaker 2: I'm not respecting your play action pass if you can't

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Speaker 1: It's almost old school, very eighties, like if you run

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Speaker 1: He's extremely accurate on deep passes, specifically down the sideline.

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Speaker 1: None of that happened, and I agree with you. It

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Speaker 1: On New York running the ball seventy four yards three

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Speaker 1: They played with the energy played with and Wit talk

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Speaker 1: Another person not a newcomer here, but I think needs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I think that's the dick Ewan Joe

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Speaker 2: And I think even now there's gonna be You mentioned

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Speaker 2: the line around along the front and you don't know

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Speaker 2: who's gonna be to, who's coming, who's uh, you know,

437
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: dropping back and covering, and it might be six guys

438
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: moving up in the line of scrimmage and around the

439
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, a couple of safeties, corner Nicholas whoever.

440
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Speaker 2: And now it forces you to make sure your communications

441
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: is on key from a protection standpoint, like who are

442
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: the four who are the four guys coming in? And

443
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: you just want them to be wrong on account at

444
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: least the free rushers immediate press showing a quarterback or sack.

445
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be so much more to

446
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Speaker 2: the defensive that they'll.

447
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Speaker 1: Add to that that rush kind of Look, this is

448
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting the next few weeks and the things

449
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about. But like Jordan Love is mobile,

450
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: but not like Russ Actually he's not gonna run a lot.

451
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna take on Gino Smith. He's not really mobile.

452
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: He's really more of a very good pocket quarterback. He's

453
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: really more of a pocket quarterback. They're gonna get Penick

454
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Speaker 1: so we're not sure if he's gonna run very much yet,

455
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: but he's really a pocket quarterback. Herbert, you know, can

456
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: run but doesn't do a lot of it. They have

457
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna see a lot of really what are

458
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Speaker 1: known for mobile quarterbacks over the next month. It's to

459
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how this kind of materializes dealing

460
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: with people that you know mainly where they're gonna be.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's and.

462
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Speaker 1: And with that.

463
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Speaker 2: The game planning on the rush, like, how what's the

464
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: best way to get to that quarterback? Do we get

465
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Speaker 2: into some wide knives way out and you know, get

466
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Speaker 2: up the field and able to if you feel like

467
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: you got great matchups against the tackles, can we beat

468
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: those guys with speed around the edge? Is a situation

469
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: where you run in these these games, these twist stunts

470
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: between the due linemen. Is that more effective? Do we

471
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: take advantage of their in terror lineman? Hey, maybe you

472
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: like some matchups of getting some guys with speed on

473
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Speaker 2: a guard or a center or things like that. So

474
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: it's so many different variations you have. I think the

475
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: great thing about this group collectively is that you have

476
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Speaker 2: so much versatility with these guys. Depth depth.

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Speaker 1: They talk versatility and versatility. Let me give you Russ's

478
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: passing stats seventeen of thirty seven for under one hundred

479
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Speaker 1: and ninety yards forty five percent completion percentage.

480
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Speaker 2: In the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you're under sixty, that's a bad day. These days,

482
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Speaker 1: the really good quarterbacks are up near seventy typically for

483
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Speaker 1: the season. Jayden was a guy who had I mean,

484
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: granted that was like one of the best seasons any

485
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Speaker 1: rookies ever had because he broke a qualified completion percentage record,

486
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Speaker 1: but it was up near seventy. Most of the good

487
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are well over sixty and close to seventy forty

488
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: five percent completion percentage. That is extraordinarily low. Elik Neighbors targeted.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't even remember it this many times because I

490
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: think a number of more throwaways and he was the

491
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: closest receiver in the vicinity of it. He got targeted

492
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: twelve times, he only made five catches, and he only

493
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: made one play that I would even call an impact

494
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: play throughout the entire day. They neutralized their passing game too,

495
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: with one of the best receivers in the NFL period.

496
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Speaker 2: The credit to the game plan, and I mean it's

497
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: a lot of it. They played a ton of man

498
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Speaker 2: of man, but they also were able to make some

499
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Speaker 2: and play the zones. And I mean you mentioned what

500
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Speaker 2: seventeen thirty, and it felt like it was worse than that. Yeah,

501
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: because one of them was on a lot of those incompletions.

502
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, nobody had a chance to catch the trolls.

503
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Speaker 1: It wasn't drops.

504
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: It was like fifty to fifty balls, you're making a

505
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: nice defensive play, or he's fitting into a tight window

506
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: and things like that, but it was it felt like

507
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: it was worse than that.

508
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was one where he got like twenty

509
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: of the yards when he got hit, just throwing it

510
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: up in the air and neighbors made a play for him,

511
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: right like he would have had one hundred and fifty

512
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Speaker 1: yards passing without that.

513
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Speaker 2: The throwers in the red zone, I mean, were a

514
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: lot of them had no chances of being completion.

515
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Speaker 1: No, no, we should bring that up. Two red zone stops,

516
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Speaker 1: one in the first half, one that sealed it in

517
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Speaker 1: the second half. The first one included a penalty that

518
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Speaker 1: gave him a first and goal with the one and

519
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: still held them to two field goals. That's another one.

520
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure Quinn's going to be and winner gonna be

521
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: showing to everybody going that is us, right, what an

522
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: incredible start there, This is us.

523
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Speaker 2: They extreme discipline. They tried to play action pad, they

524
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Speaker 2: brought a tackle Lamb made him eligible, thinking that we'd

525
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: fall asleep from a cover standpoint, Hey, how many times

526
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: do you throw the football to a extra offensivelignment tackle eligible?

527
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. Will Harris extremely disciplined. Hey,

528
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: this is yeah, he's an offensive alignman, but he's eligible

529
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: to as a receiver. This is my guy in coverage.

530
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Speaker 2: If they were going to pass this football, My eyes

531
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Speaker 2: on him, we call the eyes on your work. Tremendous discipline.

532
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: They go play action pass, try to try to get

533
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 2: the ball to the tight end. Will Is all over him,

534
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: didn't panic, didn't create, didn't commit a passing ofference penalty.

535
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Speaker 2: He was where he needed to be. The I don't

536
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: know if it was wise, might have been wise or armstrong.

537
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Somebody was right in Russ's face like they needed to

538
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: be perfect. There was a time where we had another

539
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: man and man coverage and think Bobby does a great

540
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: job of fighting due to traffic covering the running back

541
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Speaker 2: out of the backfield and everybody's gloved up, no where

542
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: to go with the football, has to throw it basically

543
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: out of the back of the end zone. It yeah,

544
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: I mean they a couple of times they changed the

545
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: tool called zone coverage. I think the Giants were expecting. Man,

546
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: we play zone coverage, tremendous, detailed attention to details, no

547
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: where to go with the football. So I don't know.

548
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Speaker 1: You care about the historic numbers. I like them, you

549
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: love me. I like them, that's your deal. I like them,

550
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: but there's one but when they matter and when they

551
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: stand out to me, I like to bring them up.

552
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: And last year it became because of what really what

553
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Jayden was doing. Early in the season it was laughable,

554
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Like how many times, like after the game I would

555
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: get these stats, it would be like, not since nineteen

556
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: forty five, not since nineteen sixty eight, not since this,

557
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: not since then? Was he And it was a lot

558
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: had to do with him and what he was doing.

559
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Here's one for you I think you'll like. And this

560
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: is a streak. I write it on my board every

561
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: week every game I call to myself, hopefully this will change.

562
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: This team has not shut somebody out since nineteen ninety one.

563
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: It is the longest streak running in the NFL by

564
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Speaker 1: far and not close. And so after seeing them in

565
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Week one hold a team to six points, and I

566
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: know the level of quarterbacks they're playing, especially this year

567
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: and really over the next month, that it's hard to do, yes,

568
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping and I just want to put a

569
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Speaker 1: bug in their ear. It has not happened here since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. And the reason why I bring that

571
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: up is yesterday they did something on defense they have

572
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: not done since nineteen ninety one, which was hold their

573
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: season opening opponent without a touchdown. That has not happened

574
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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one. They had hadn't had a game

575
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Speaker 1: where they hadn't allowed a touchdown in like I've been

576
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: a long time anyway, right nineteen it was like two

577
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: thousands something like that. Two this was in the season opener.

578
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: They have not held the opponent without a touch down

579
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Speaker 1: since the nineteen ninety one season where they had three shutouts.

580
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to put that in the

581
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: air right atmosphere me it's in the universe. I want

582
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: to put it in the universe. Of course, that if

583
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: you do that you will end one of the longest

584
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Speaker 1: streaks running in the NFL. This is like two hundred

585
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: more games than anybody else. That is since they last

586
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: had a shutout, too, it existed exactly. Yeah, manifested, that's right, Matt.

587
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Listen. It's it's extremely difficult to to shut a team out.

588
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: It's one of the stakes. Yeah. Again, you can have

589
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: things happen, you get a short field team, team kicks

590
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: the field goal against you, whatever the case may be.

591
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's extremely difficult. I know I've been

592
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: a part of some shutouts, but it's it's just so difficult,

593
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: especially in today's NFL. Yes, the hold the table, they touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They came closer like actually against the Giants in the

595
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: season finale. It was a few years ago when Ron

596
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Rivera was the head coach and they were down to

597
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: like their third quarterback. And I'll never forget this because

598
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: in the first half the Giants were so not confident

599
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: about their passing game that when they got the ball

600
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Speaker 1: at their own five yard line, they kneeled down to

601
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: not have a turnover. Really, yeah, it was the first

602
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: half and they kneeled down, and Washington got it to

603
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and they had a shutout and the

604
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Giants scored late and they ended it. But the whole time,

605
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, going we're gonna end the streak. We're

606
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna end this streak. I can't remember who the quarterback

607
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: was it was, but they were down to like a

608
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: third string quarterback. And I'm like, this could end today

609
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: and it didn't. So I'm just putting it in the universe.

610
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: We haven't had this since nineteen ninety one. And the

611
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: defense just did something yesterday that hadn't happened since nineteen

612
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Speaker 1: ninety one.

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00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again even holding a team like you said

614
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: to without a touchdown. Yeah, that's no small feat right there.

615
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, especially in today's NFL, where a

616
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: lot more passes, these receivers are coming into the league,

617
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: the highly skilled a quarterback players at all time high,

618
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: and the rules are set up to benefit the offense.

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Speaker 1: They are all right, let's talk about the offense. So

620
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: let's get Logan Paulson in here. It's time for Paulson

621
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: from the Pine as he joins us if he hears

622
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: us to join us in the room. On what was

623
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: I would described kind of a mixed day on offense.

624
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of how I would describe what

625
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: it was. I thought the defense really stole the show.

626
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that that happened. But for you, as

627
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: we welcome in Logan, did you would you think just

628
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: generally of the offense and how they performed.

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Speaker 2: I thought the running, the rushing attack was phenomenal, as

630
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: evident by rush of over two and twenty yards.

631
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Speaker 3: Is that the most sen stunting anyone?

632
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

633
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: I say, you love those story statistics.

634
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: I feel like we rushed for lord of that last year.

635
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, he's making fun of me.

636
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: An, he can't get day up to the offense pass

637
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: the game and we're a couple of drops that really

638
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: you have those drops and Jayden probably has if not

639
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: a three hundred yard day or close to a three

640
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: hundred yard day. But the running game was was phenomenal.

641
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: There's some things obviously you need to clean up here there.

642
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it's some protection stuff like that, but all in all, overall,

643
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was a good first start for the offense.

644
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think with the offense, you kind of look

645
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: at unforced errors as the thing that comes to mind

646
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: like the drop passes, the penalties, getting off schedule, and

647
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: the thing when you're like when we were doing the games,

648
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Speaker 3: I'm always super impressed with their ability to overcome negative situations,

649
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Like how many times have we seen them this year

650
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Speaker 3: and obviously last year where they're in it's second and

651
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Speaker 3: twenty and somehow they get to third and ten, then

652
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: they get first down off a third and ten, Like,

653
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: they find ways to overcome that. But it's just not

654
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: a sustainable thing to just putting yourselves in high level

655
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: leverage situation. So I think kind of to Fletcher's point,

656
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of really cool things that they did.

657
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: I left some of the backfield action with Debo. His

658
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: utilization Like really Deebo's utilization was awesome, Like when he

659
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: came here, I wasn't sure if Cliff would be able

660
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: to like maximize him, you know, because it's such a

661
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: unique thing to do. People have a hard time with it.

662
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: But if today is any indication of what the season

663
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: is going to be, it's going to add such a

664
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: nice dynamic to the offense. And then obviously, like the penalties,

665
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: the incompletions are things that really kind of like sink

666
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 3: in your cross an offensive player.

667
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: The thing that really stood out that we talked about

668
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: a million times leading up to the game was the

669
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Speaker 1: Giants front Dexter Lawrence, who we said after the game.

670
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember calling his name. I think he had

671
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: a few tackles, but there was no big play by him.

672
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: They neutralized him yesterday.

673
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: It's crazy watching the phone back. I just did that

674
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: last night. Like, he is so good. He is such

675
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: a good player. He's so physically dominant. You might not

676
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: feel him like in the tackle or the sack statistic,

677
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: but he is just like a problem like instinct. He

678
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: uses his hands well, like plays like that. They ran

679
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: a trap where alleg Redy's blocking back. He's the backside

680
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: three technic, Like that's a great angle, this should be

681
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: an easy play, reads it perfectly, plays over the top.

682
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: He's kind of hanging on to him as he made

683
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: Like and again that's a that's a three yard game,

684
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: four yard game. But like that play and Fletch know's like,

685
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: that's like a crazy play for a three technique to make.

686
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 3: But I guess I think the thing is, like you said,

687
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: you don't feel him when you play him, Like even

688
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Abdul carter I went back and watched him. He had

689
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: some awesome rushes where he's beating the guard, he's rushing

690
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: from an awful linebacker spot. But again, like Jaden's scrambling

691
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: ability getting the ball out the runs away on some

692
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: of those, and you're just like, even though they're even

693
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: though these guys are playing well in isolation, like if

694
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: you were to make a cut up, you're like, dang,

695
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: Like they don't have the gravity of it. Because I

696
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: think we've got a good playmakers.

697
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like we talked a lot about their

698
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: front because one sid's Brian Burns. The others came on

699
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: Thibodeau Carter. This is his debut. He was extremely impactful

700
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: on special teams after day as well. And you go,

701
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, where do you who do you run away from?

702
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Where do you go?

703
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: There's kind of nowhere to hide, and yet somehow they

704
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: had a tremendous amount of success on the ground against them.

705
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Well to that point, I mean, even like just larger picture,

706
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: like Larmie Tunsel is amazing at football, like whoever was

707
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: rushing on his side, man like his ability to adjust

708
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: and his feeling pass protection hands inside in the run games.

709
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: Sync kind of unload from the hips. Like there was

710
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: a couple of times where they're running a like an

711
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: et and so he's the ends penetrating and he washes

712
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: it down. Coleman gets a little bit heavy on it,

713
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: and then the guy loops around and he's kind of

714
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: blocking two people. And I'm just like, that's what that

715
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: edition gives you, Right, So you talk about negating their

716
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: best players on the edge, and it's to me, it's

717
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: learning me tounsle Like that's a huge element. And like

718
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Josh Connery, I think I think people are going to

719
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: kind of point to the two sacks.

720
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Is that what it?

721
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: But I think overall, Man, you see a really consistent

722
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: football player with a tremendously high ceiling, like in the

723
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: run game specifically.

724
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then he was dealing with two guys that

725
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: have good good players, two guys that are really good players.

726
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: They worked the ad, worked his age. So this is

727
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: stuff that he'll look at the fail. Hey, this is

728
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: this is what NFL pass rushers, premiere pass rushers look like.

729
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: And I think the other thing too is Jayden I

730
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: didn't notice this last year, but he sets a little

731
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: bit deeper than the other two guys, like Sam Hartman

732
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: and Josh Johnson. He's he's like a yard deeper and

733
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 3: so for the tackles, that's a weird thing to get

734
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: used to.

735
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: And I haven't he doesn't playing with him, didn't in.

736
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: The preseason, and so, like I talked to alig ready

737
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: and he was like, Yeah, one of the things I

738
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: got to talk to Josh about is just how how

739
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: different it is playing with a guy like Jayden Daniels

740
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: because he you know, he gets a little bit deeper,

741
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: he's more, he's got more capability to his game. So

742
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: it was interesting to watch him kind of in real

743
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: time try to figure out that angles. There's time where

744
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: he's getting a good punch on Burns and you're like oh,

745
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: and you could see he's like I'm okay. Then he's like,

746
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 3: oh no, Like he's a little bit deeper than I thought.

747
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: So again, you know, like one of the things you

748
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: talked about earlier is just like the lack of continuity

749
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: with the offense in terms of preseason play. I think

750
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: it shows up with some stuff like that.

751
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think like over over arching, you know,

752
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: coming into this, I hope the defense would have a

753
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: performance like that that you'd get to see something like this,

754
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: But with the offense, all the offensive linemen were kind

755
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: of up and down. They didn't play in the preseason.

756
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, a terry situation was Noah Brown barely practiced

757
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: throughout the summer. They never had their starting unit on

758
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: the field at really any point in time. Maybe over

759
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the last week when we weren't watching practice anymore, but

760
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: not throughout the course of camp. The fact that it

761
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: was kind of up and down and maybe not where

762
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: I think any of us hope it's going to be

763
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: as the season progresses. That's not a surprise to me

764
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: to start the season.

765
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Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy, though, is when it was good,

766
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: like that drive on the zach Ertz touchdown, Like I

767
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: don't know if you could call and execute a better

768
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: drive in the NFL.

769
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: The throws by Jaden on that particular drive, like show

770
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: you what he is, the throw to Chris Moore, the

771
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: throw to er Go. Watch that that is a dart

772
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: in between two defenders.

773
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: Bobby pushing through to that, and you could tell he's surprised.

774
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: He's a plug. He's a plug whole player who's just

775
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: bringing the quarterback and he's trying to rob and try

776
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: to get in line to make interception. Thok the player call.

777
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: You touched on this a little bit about the the

778
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: uses of Debo. So the one thing, the run that

779
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: he scored on. They used that motion probably four or

780
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: five times in the game, and on several of those

781
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: places it was an inside reverse handoff to run the

782
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: running back on the counter, same action, same kind of

783
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: You think it's about to be that same hand off

784
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: to the running back and no, he hands it off

785
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 2: to Debo. And the block that he got out front

786
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: led by Larry me Toms. So you know Scotts.

787
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: Llccaffrey had a devastating block on the end, you know,

788
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: talking about it.

789
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So that play we're gonna set you up

790
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: for them. Weren't run this play multiple times in for

791
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: a defense. You see this, You see this motion. See

792
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: it happened three times, three or four times. You're like, oh, run,

793
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: they're about to hand us off to the running back

794
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: and you get hey, alert, alert, the ball's going here.

795
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: Next year, you know, oh no, you take that one

796
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: false step and they get angles only from a block

797
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: and standpoint and it's de boat to the house.

798
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing more amazing to watch than when you see

799
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: a place start and you go, that could be a touchdown. Yeah,

800
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: immediately the second he got the hand off and you

801
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: saw it, you saw the two pullers. I just step

802
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: back and I went, he's gonna score. You can you

803
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: see it like you like the way it was just

804
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: designed set up the people. I knew he was gonna

805
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: score your call. I knew he was gonna score.

806
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: Your call like you were raising your octailer, octailery whatever.

807
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Earlier than usual. I saw it coming. I'm like, he's

808
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: either gonna score or someone's gonna get knocked out at

809
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: the one.

810
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen. That's it.

811
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Speaker 3: It was crazy like being I was on the hash

812
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: like where they ran it, so right behind the and

813
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: you see the pullers come out in front of I'm like, well,

814
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: they're still gonna have a free hitter, like I think

815
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: it was the outside linebacker and the safety. But to

816
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: your point, I was like, he's gonna score because he's

817
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: going to break that tackle. Yeah, and then like that

818
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: dude runs so incredibly hard, violent, violently, and like the

819
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: way he returns kicks, it's like there's not a there's

820
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: no fear in his body about anything. It's it's crazy

821
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: to watch, like his the power and the explosiveness, and

822
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: he's going to be a problem man. Like even on

823
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: like it was on the on the play that they

824
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: scored with zach ert It's like they're running like what

825
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: I would call like a jet sweep with like a

826
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: Wanda action across and Jayden keeps it and then he's

827
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: got two blockers out in front of zach Ertz and Debo.

828
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, just the flexibility that stuff gives you because

829
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's just eye candy, window dressing. We're

830
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: going to ignore it. The linebacker's push over with the

831
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: Wanda run and then it's like, oh no, we got

832
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: to get back over here. It's just like it's just

833
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: every time they're running the ball, like the eye discipline

834
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: needs to be at an all.

835
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Speaker 2: And I think you probably did this too, because you

836
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: tell me you listen to a lot of the stuff

837
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: that that the opponents, like the podcasts or or stuff

838
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: that they're going on, stuff like we're talking now for

839
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: the opponents. So leading up into the game, you you

840
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: go listen, say, hey, what are their guys see them

841
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: on a daily basis talking about.

842
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: You?

843
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: Here I was hearing them talk about our office and there,

844
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: it's like, yes, it's a bunch of window dressing and

845
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: it's all you got to do is just kind of

846
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: protective perimeter and it's it's not that hard stuff to

847
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: it's not that complicated. I'm listening to this this these

848
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: guys talk about this, and I'm just like, you never

849
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: know that. Man, they play this is plenty too.

850
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.

851
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, I'm like saying to myself, you have

852
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: no clue what it's like to be on that field

853
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 2: and all that stuff is happening to be in front

854
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: of you. You're gonna hesitate for a second trying to

855
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: figure out who has the ball. And that's all you need.

856
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: That's all the office is looking for. Now, they got

857
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: angles for you. You got a guy with speed. If

858
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: if Jaden decides to keep it, I mean, yeah, it

859
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: sounds good in air condition is what we call it.

860
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: But when you get in between those white lines, you

861
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: have to deal with that. It math moroz people.

862
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: And I will say I think the giants Labebackers actually

863
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: did a pretty good job with their high discipline, but

864
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: there's I think they had twenty four runs in the game,

865
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 3: and let's say there's window dressing on fourteen or fifteen

866
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: of them just takes one and the one was a touchdown,

867
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I think that's the thing.

868
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you could be good four yards here,

869
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: five yards here, three yards here, but then you get

870
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: a nineteen yard touchdown run in the red zone.

871
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Mike McFadden got a hurt early age. He's a very

872
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: good player for them.

873
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: So a man, we talked about Bill yet.

874
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: I know we haven't talked about that. Man, Dude, I

875
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: think Bill is. I was really improve. I mean it

876
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: was all the stuff you saw in the preseason though,

877
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: right Like you saw the explosiveness, you saw the burst,

878
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: you saw kind of the home run ability. You know,

879
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a four. He's not a

880
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: four to four guy. He's a four low four or

881
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: five guy, high four four guy, but he's got that

882
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: the acceleration is that tame catches me in the vision.

883
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: Like there's times where it's it's looking really murky, you know,

884
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: like in you know, think about this, like when you're

885
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: running back and you see like a crease in the NFL,

886
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: it's about this big. There are times where it's overlapped.

887
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Likes are overlapped. His ability to kind of snake through,

888
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: run behind his pads and get positive games on muddy

889
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: runs is really impressive.

890
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: The he he makes the first person miss consistently. Yeah,

891
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: we saw that early in the preseason and the time

892
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: that he was playing even up in New England. The

893
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: first person misses with him and that's been pretty consistent.

894
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: And this is one of those players that like, you

895
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: know it when you see it. He's got the look

896
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: and the feel. It's just experienced. Now, how many times

897
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: is he going to get the reps before he becomes

898
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: I think a regular of the offense.

899
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: And he's so the only the only concern I have

900
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: with him really is just like workload, Yes, do you

901
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: think he can carry how many times do you think

902
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: he can carry the ball, like in the course of

903
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: a season, Like is he going to always be like

904
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: a twelve to sixteen touch guy or could he be

905
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: at I.

906
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: Think right now and to in our offense, that's probably

907
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: going to be his max anyway. I think ten care

908
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: he had ten yesterday. Maybe twelve is a max because

909
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: max number because you go had Jaden, who's gonna get

910
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: his his carriage. You're gonna have Debo runs, You're gonna

911
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: Eckler runs. You'll have whoever, whether it's Chris Rodriguez or

912
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: mc nicholas up. You know, you're gonna divide those thirty

913
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: runs up. Let's say yesterday you said it was twenty

914
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: four runs that we had as a tech twenty four,

915
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: So you're going to divide that up so much that

916
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: I think from a workload standpoint, you don't really have

917
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: to worry about that right now. With him, what I

918
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: did find interesting he was on the on the series

919
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: that he had that forty two yard run. They're backed

920
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: up and really we're in four minute offense and he's

921
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: the running back they put into the game.

922
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's got he's very talented. He's a

923
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: very talented runner. And I think to me, it's just

924
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: he's going to maximize money runs. He's going to do

925
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: everything you want to do. He's a little bit more

926
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: skilled than like McNichols or Rodriguez, you know, kind of

927
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: with some of that short area quickness stuff. You know.

928
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean the only question I have about him is like,

929
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: can you do it for the whole season?

930
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

931
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: He also you know he didn't play very much last year,

932
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: played one game, so that I thought was interesting to

933
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: walk into the NFL having not even really been through

934
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: a season.

935
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: I guess there's good that. Yeah, fresh legs. But said

936
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: about fresh legs, but I think running back is the

937
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: easiest for a rookie to to excel at earlier.

938
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: It's like the end running back, you know, like those

939
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: low lower life.

940
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: We'll say a good one in two weeks with Ashton.

941
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: The thing that also impressed me there was a think

942
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: of five or six yard run he had early in

943
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: the game. He showed great patience. A lot of young

944
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: backs don't have patients. They want to just hit a

945
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: whole one hundred miles an hour. But sometimes you need

946
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: to let the let the blocks develop, play with playing

947
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: a little game with the linebackers, you know, make him

948
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: think you're going to go, uh to the C gap,

949
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: get to the boss out there, and hey, boss back

950
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: in and you run through the B gap for for

951
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: four or five yards, creating your own blocker, being your

952
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: own blocker sometime. But there was a run he had

953
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: yesterday where just the paces he had and he was

954
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: able to get I think about six yards.

955
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well he had that one where I don't remember.

956
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it was Burns, I think who was kind

957
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: of waiting for him, and he saw it, stopped, came

958
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: back and got positive yardage where it's like, this is

959
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: not a rookie shoot.

960
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: Even the touchdown run like I'm gt right, you're getting

961
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: a down blocked by the to the end. There should

962
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: be a kick out there the creases between the tight ends,

963
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: but and the tackles or the guards, but kicked out

964
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: and the tackles leading up. There's a little bit of

965
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: penetration on Bates's block. He did a great job, was

966
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: run through, did a great job on it, gets a

967
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: little bit condensed, and you're his ability to kind of

968
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: subtle dip right like kind of just square the shoulders up,

969
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: pull everybody in the defensive end, tucks his head inside,

970
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: and then he's just able to bounce it. And that

971
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: doesn't happen if you run straight to the sideline. He's

972
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: got to kind of give you that little weave in

973
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: there and then bounce out for the touchdown. And so

974
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: those are the like that like kind of dark arts

975
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: of running back where you are it's not about you,

976
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: about you setting up your offensive line like I went

977
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: to I went to college with Maurice Jones Drew and

978
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: Eric Banamy was the running back coach, and so he

979
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: used to make Maurice come in and apologize to us

980
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: as the tight ends if he didn't set us up

981
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: on the block. And I'm like, and I kind of

982
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: look at Maurice and I think I just messed that up.

983
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: I think that's just my fault. You know, you have

984
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: to come apologize because he didn't set us up just right.

985
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: But I think that's that's what it takes to be

986
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: a good running back.

987
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: In ten carries, eighty two yards a touchdown, it's not.

988
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: A bad day at the office. It was most most

989
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: most yards by a rookie, seventh round draft picks and.

990
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: First player in NFL history picked two hundredth or lower

991
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: with seventy five plus rush yards and a touchdown in

992
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: his debut.

993
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 5: It's very specific, but yeah, that's not even there's not

994
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: even a date on that one. It's like, yeah, first

995
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: player twenty So he had an incredible debut.

996
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of it obviously came on one big

997
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: run at the end of the game, but itame I feel, yeah,

998
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, because everybody was asking

999
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: about the run game, what was it going to be

1000
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: coming into it? What did you expect yesterday?

1001
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: Actually, this is pretty in terms of deployment, like kind

1002
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: of general philosophy, this is kind of what I expected.

1003
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: I expected a little bit more tight zone from the gun,

1004
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: so to see all kind of the heavier twelve personnel

1005
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: counters inside pulling stuff, I was a little bit surprised

1006
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: by that, just because I wasn't expecting that. I knew

1007
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: they were going to do that, I wasn't expecting that

1008
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: kind of volume because I thought if you look at

1009
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: the Week one or Week two matchup from last year,

1010
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: they really spread them out. They ran some stuff here,

1011
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: little zone read, but it was bigger personnel's more kind

1012
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: of nuanced blocking surface structures with the pullers. So that

1013
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 3: was the only surprise. When in terms of run volume

1014
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 3: kind of and Cliff's approach of kind of being a

1015
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: quote unquote run first team, I think that was kind

1016
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: of what I was expecting.

1017
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: I was expecting a lot of what we call off

1018
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: tackle plays because of we mentioned Dexter Lawrence. You're not

1019
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: going to make hey consistently running the ball side against

1020
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: the tackles they had. They were really good run stoppers

1021
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: in between the tackles. But I thought, because with our

1022
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: athleticism across the board, with the offensive line, a lot

1023
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: of pulling, a lot of getting outside, Yeah, a lot

1024
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: of a lot of pulling, a lot of getting outside,

1025
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: more outside zone type of runs. Using the bubble screenes

1026
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: kind of as an extension of the run game. I

1027
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: don't think we do anyway.

1028
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: A couple of debo but those were more like traditional screens.

1029
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but as far as this is kind of

1030
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: how I saw them more looking to get outside the

1031
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: running off the tackles, really at those defensive ends, outside linebackers.

1032
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: I sent.

1033
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks for the Fantasy football world

1034
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: was very interesting. Everybody after the trade of Brian Robinson

1035
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: decided in that world that Bill was going to be

1036
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: a very high pick, so they made him one. And

1037
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: then when the depth chart came out, they all freaked

1038
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: out and in most cases probably didn't start. I didn't

1039
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: learn their lesson about they find it. So there's some

1040
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: waiver I pick up this. This is a message to

1041
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: fantasy football managers Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury, don't care

1042
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: about your team at all.

1043
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to talk about a lot. Didn't care about

1044
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: my fantasy too, because yeah, I had him as my

1045
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: QB yesterday.

1046
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: One thing I do want to address that I think

1047
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: we should bring up because this was this was not

1048
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: all perfect. We're throwing a lot of roses here. Twelve

1049
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: penalties yesterday, But how are you thinking about that? Because

1050
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: that is a carryover from the preseason and I know

1051
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the starters playing, but like that was

1052
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: something Dan cru was mad about after the New England

1053
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: preseason game.

1054
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 2: A lot of penalties. Well that was really the one,

1055
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: like the major major disappointment from this game where you say,

1056
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: man that the penalties and some of them were just

1057
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: so costly. All penalties hurt, but some of them are

1058
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: just so costly. A couple of times I think we

1059
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: were off the field defensively. Yeah, we off to feel

1060
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner. Bobby Wagner wise automatic first down found I

1061
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: found out. So thanks for pointing that out. Thanks your

1062
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: pointing out my big mistake.

1063
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: I was just.

1064
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Bobby's penalty in the gates, the quand interception, they were

1065
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: they were the right calls. There wasn't a situation where

1066
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: you looked at these penalties like oh this this is

1067
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: kind of.

1068
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: Questionable intentional grounding too in the YEA.

1069
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: All right, it is time for our first edition Commanders Championship.

1070
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Hey man, you know we we do big things here. Yeah,

1071
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: here's Commander's Championship Belt week one, and we got a

1072
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: new belt. I've yet to see the new belt. This

1073
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: is the unveiling.

1074
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: But if it's made of like macrimony or something, we

1075
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: got we got a big.

1076
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna unveil the new Commanders Championship belt.

1077
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh look at that thing.

1078
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: Look at this thing right here?

1079
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: Wow?

1080
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: Wow, Jason, where did you get that? Wow?

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Did you get You did not.

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00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: Get this off of Amazon or oh East logo? We

1083
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: got our crest Our logo. Man, who bab Let's all right,

1084
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: let's go. Sorry, you want me to tell you to

1085
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: hold it?

1086
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 3: I can hold it.

1087
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: Who are the contenders?

1088
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Contenders are I'm gonna go with Depot. Sammy has the

1089
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: uh one of the contenders.

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00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Okay, nearly nearly one hundred yards of total offense most

1091
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: highly targeted receiver, which I think was not that much

1092
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: of a surprise considering he was there all throughout camp.

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00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: What do you have?

1094
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: Seven receptions?

1095
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: Seven percent seventy.

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00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: Seven and had the one rush for nineteen yards. Had

1097
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: had an impact on the return game as a kick returner,

1098
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: and also his presence in his you have to hate

1099
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: where's waldough type of thing when you see him, the

1100
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: motion and the attention that he garners by once he

1101
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: moves everybody at tennis go up, what's going on?

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00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: Was he the most backful offensive player?

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00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: You think? According to me in my in my ward,

1104
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, ye, yes, yes, he was all right. So

1105
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: he's uh, he's one of the contenders. I feel like

1106
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: I now, I feel like the way the defense played,

1107
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a defensive player in the mix. And

1108
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: there were several guys I could have chosen to put

1109
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: up for the championship belt. That's the contenders for the

1110
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: Championship Belt. Thought didrich Wise was outstanding, Ken Law was outstanding.

1111
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: Payne was outstanding. I thought Will Harris was outstanding. People

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: really not not gonna you go watch the film and

1113
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: Will Harris was outstanding. My choice as a contender. It's

1114
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: gonna beat the Ryan Paine pay was balling House of

1115
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Pay Vic Danny Pay, I'm bringing the pay whatever you

1116
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: want to call him. Well, do you have four tackles,

1117
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: five tackles.

1118
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Four tackles, a sack tackle for a long two pass defense.

1119
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: Remember you had to reach out with the left hand,

1120
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: knocked them down in a quarterback.

1121
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Played great in the run game, taking on double teams.

1122
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: So I got I feel like I got some great contenders.

1123
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: But I only can give this to one guy, So

1124
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: we can't split the belt.

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: You like, do it every week or they.

1126
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: Wins and wins and.

1127
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: Wins, right, and was it like does it do they

1128
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: get the belt at the end of the year.

1129
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: No?

1130
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: This, No, that's his, that's your.

1131
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: Wen a certificate.

1132
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, piece of paper this week.

1133
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: Big Fletcher's command this heavyweight championship belt ghost too drum

1134
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: roll Please, there's a right and.

1135
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Wrong answer here. I'm gonna complain if you picked them

1136
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: out one go ahead. I'm gonna go with Demo Samuel who.

1137
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm surprised.

1138
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: The defense deserves everything today. You know what, you got

1139
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: some consideration and I'm checking them.

1140
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to the rock.

1141
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1142
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: I did a Steve Harvey. Wait a second, it's not

1143
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: yeah combat his heavyweight championship.

1144
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: Wait really really well man, I mean that's maybe the

1145
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: best game I've seen him play since covering the team.

1146
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: We had him in the locker room. Man, now, I

1147
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: told him, I said, that was like a vintage from

1148
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: a few years ago when he.

1149
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was rolling.

1150
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: It's been double double digit.

1151
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: Yes, he was just all over the place in the

1152
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: run game coming out the stack like you just all right, man,

1153
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't get doesn't get.

1154
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: That people could people could chime in, Hey, if you

1155
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: felt like somebody else that we didn't have as the

1156
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: belt winner, put the comments in there. Also, let me know,

1157
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: do you look, do you prefer Big Daddy came Big

1158
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: Big Daddy Paine or the House of Pay And for

1159
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: you younger people, unless you were born check out the

1160
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: seventies and then you know eighties rap. Big Daddy came

1161
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: K A N E. Google him. Boy was he he

1162
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: was smooth?

1163
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: Very So we keep.

1164
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: You take this home?

1165
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: Is that what happens?

1166
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we have a special place for this.

1167
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: I do like, if we're gonna do eighties rap nick names,

1168
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: that's a road I'd like to go down.

1169
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, because like, yeah, so seriously, I'm fifty two, yes, yeah.

1170
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: How old are you in the eighties, like like in

1171
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: high school or do the math.

1172
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm fifty two, how almost eighties?

1173
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: So this is high school?

1174
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are like my grade school years where it's

1175
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: like Daylight Soul tribe call quest or in this case,

1176
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: since we have Debo, whose nickname comes from Friday, which

1177
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: is an old school movie. I like Jane Daniels and

1178
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: Debo being kid in play. So if that's right, I

1179
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: just hope.

1180
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Deebo doesn't find out that I that I read the

1181
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: wrong name. I don't want him coming to me like, man, hey,

1182
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: give me where my bike? AT's my brother? What're my

1183
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: belt at? Deebo? Leave me alone. Man, if you want

1184
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: the belt, you can have it. You can, you can

1185
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: share it. We don't care.

1186
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: That'd be like all right before before we go real

1187
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: quick short week, So you want to give a quick

1188
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: little what do you think green Bay one to O

1189
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: just dominated Detroit?

1190
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

1191
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if they dominated Detroit.

1192
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean just say they did. They're listening to us London.

1193
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: Through a red zone interception. I don't know like it

1194
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: was it was. It was definitely a tight game, divisional game.

1195
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: Like they they only had forty eight offensive plays green Bay,

1196
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: so they weren't super.

1197
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: We're watching Bram and I we were watching The Gang together. Logan,

1198
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: you don't want to come, have a.

1199
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: Stop, have a bavage, do anything. That's why I'm sitting

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: that we do.

1201
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: You're either at the gym protein watching tape of high

1202
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: school kids playing.

1203
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: Somebody. Yeah, but I look like Josh Jacobs had a

1204
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: really good game running the football, and I saw their

1205
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: defense had four sacks, maybe nine hits on a quarterback.

1206
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, a little bit Park had a little some

1207
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: impact in the game.

1208
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: Some cool pressure packages from the Green Bay Yeah, for sure. Yeah,

1209
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's going to be tough anytime. It's

1210
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: a tough week. With the diversity that they play on defense,

1211
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: it's always hard offense.

1212
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 2: I'll say it is. Going on a road with a

1213
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: team as good as Green Bay is, our penalty is

1214
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to they don't have to be at a

1215
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: minimal just to a team like that. In that environment,

1216
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: you can't have that type of that amount of penalties.

1217
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: And they understand that. DQ is going to address that.

1218
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: Our players understand that you got to really put yourself

1219
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: in great positions. And you mentioned Logan being able to

1220
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: overcome all those second and fifteen second and twenties and

1221
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: it's just you don't want to live in that world consistently.

1222
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: It's just hard to do.

1223
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, See you from Lambo Thursday night, and

1224
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Speaker 1: see you next week on.

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