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We are going to 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: react to any Lakers trades that come down as they happen. 38 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: We're going to start by talking about this James Harden 39 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons exchange that took place between the Sixers and 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: the Nets. Anything exciting happens, we will hit it towards 41 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: the end. I appreciate you guys coming to hang out. 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: Let's get into some basketball. Let's start with this James 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Harden trade. So, obviously, the the initial reaction is to 44 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: look at what Philly sent out, right, because they did 45 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: end up in louding Seth Curry, which was something that 46 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: I advocated for them to do, because, like I said, 47 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: this isn't Russell Westbrook, this is James Harden. This is 48 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: a player of the necessary caliber to justify sending out 49 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: role players. Now, the instant reaction, as is always the case, 50 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: especially on NBA Twitters, for people to overreact to including 51 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: draft picks. But for those of you who know Darryl Morey, 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: there's really not a GM in the league that cares 53 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: less about first round draft picks, especially once towards the 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: end of the first round then Darryl Morey, because historically, 55 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: statistically speaking, there's just not a great chance of you 56 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: getting anything of really high quality in the twenties. When 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: you're drafting in the first round, and as Daryl Morey knows, 58 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: it's so easy to pick up draft picks at any 59 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: point along the way, just in one single bad season, 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: just by eating a bad contract or something along those lines. 61 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: So I do not feel like Darryl overpaid. I think 62 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: he was just making a very simple calculation of odds. 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: If you remember Darryl Morey in press conferences recently during 64 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: this whole Ben Simmons saga, made it very clear that 65 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: he would not trade Ben Simmons unless it's significantly increased 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: their championship odds. He was very clear about that intention. 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: And so what he's weighing here is a crack at this, 68 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: a chance this season for things to break right for 69 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Philly and to break wrong for other teams, combining the 70 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: odds of that with future seasons. Because I think Darryl 71 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: knew he could get James this summer, but he got 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: an extra crack at it this year, and by doing that, 73 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: he increased his championship odds, which, like we said, like 74 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: he said, that was his goal all along. So I 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: think to him, that's the price of the that. The 76 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: price of that was those two additional first round draft picks, 77 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and they're probably not gonna miss those that badly as 78 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: time progresses. Anyway, the really interesting thing to look at 79 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: here is James Harden and his and and the weird 80 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: angle that he has added to this whole thing with 81 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: his attitude, because you know, like many of you guys, 82 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Colin Cowherd and he used 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: to have this bit that he would do on divorce, 84 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: and he would talk about how like, hey, if you 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: get divorced, you know, usually people will sympathize with you 86 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: because divorce happens. It's normal. People can be in love 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: and they can fall out of love for one of 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: many reasons, right, But if they got divorced a second time, 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: you'd start to kind of look a little sideways at 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: the person and wonder if maybe something was going on. 91 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: And then like if it was a third divorce, that's 92 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: when you'd start to look at the guy and be like, hey, 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: maybe this is a you problem. Right, And this is 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: now the second time in the last calendar year that 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: James Harden has nuked his way out of a basketball 96 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: situation because he was unhappy for one reason or another. 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: And it's really strange because he was clearly unhappy in 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: Houston when he was with Chris Paul, when he legitimately 99 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: had a real chance to win a championship if he 100 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: made any shots in two thousand eighteen in that playoff 101 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: series against the Warriors, he probably wins the title. But 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: then he decides after the next season that it's all 103 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Chris Paul's fault because he's coaching him too much or 104 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: has too big of an ego, or whatever the heck 105 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: his problem was, And so he demands a swap, and 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: he gets Russell Westbrook instead of CP three, a significantly 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: lesser player than that backfires on him. And when that 108 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: backfires on him, he pouts, skips training camp, is spotted 109 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: at strip clubs and stuff while all of his teammates 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: are in camp getting ready for the season, and he 111 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: plays some of the worst basketball of his career to 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: nuke his way out to get to Brooklyn. And it's 113 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: funny because you could see why he wanted to go 114 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: to Brooklyn because that was his best chance to win 115 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: a title, right, you know, like alongside Kevin Durant, Kyrie 116 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: Irving limits some of his shortcomings as a playoff initiator. 117 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: As we've seen in his career, he gets fatigued and 118 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: tends to fall apart in those settings, and so you 119 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: would imagine he'd be happy there. But some normal turmoil 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: that is generally associated with uh, just a normal regular season, 121 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: especially during COVID, like some guys getting hurt or a 122 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: couple of guys having to miss some time, and you 123 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: having to do more as a as a player than 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: you normally would have to do to just carry the 125 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: team for a short stretch of the season. Apparently that's 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: too much to ask for James Harden here, because he's 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: got Kevin freakin Durant on his team and he had 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: his eyes down in Philly. As soon as things started 129 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: to go south, he gets the wandering eye. And it's 130 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: funny because I think that James Harden just cost himself 131 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: his best chance to win a title as an NBA player. 132 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: As I said before, the trade does make both teams better. 133 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I I really do believe that James Harden as a 134 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: superstar perimeter initiator makes Philly better, and obviously Ben Simmons 135 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: makes the Nets better, which will get too later. But 136 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: I do not think Philly, even though they are better 137 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: now than they were before the trade, I do not 138 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: think they have a real chance to beat Milwaukee. I 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: do not think they have a real chance to beat 140 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving. I would 141 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: you pick James Harden in a playoff series like that 142 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: over one of those guys, do you? I think Milwaukee 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: would beat Philly soundly. So the question becomes why was 144 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Brooklyn still the title favorite on fan duel before this trade? 145 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: They were because, just like all of us know from 146 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: watching that team, they were destroying Milwaukee before Kyrie Irving 147 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: sprained his ankle. Without James Harden, I think we can 148 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: all agree that if that team was healthy, they probably 149 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: win the title. Kevin Durant was literally one inch away 150 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: on a turnaround jump shot from ending that series in 151 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Game seven, even with the hamper James Harden, and even 152 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: with the injured and unavailable Kyrie Irving. So I think 153 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: he had his best chance right in front of him 154 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, if he could just weather the storm, if 155 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: he could just carry the team for a little while 156 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: until Kevin Durant came back from a knee injury, if 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: he could just carry the team for a little while 158 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: until maybe a mandate changes in Kyrie is available, or 159 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: until Joe Harris can come back from his ankle surgery. 160 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, he got the wandering eye, and 161 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: now I think he's in on a Philly team that's 162 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: better a legit title contended. They have a chance, but 163 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm not picking that team over end of these other guys. 164 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they can beat Phoenix or Golden State, 165 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: or Milwaukee or or or Brooklyn. It's a long shot 166 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: to think that they could beat Miami at this point 167 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: with James Harden at the Helm. So it's funny. I 168 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: think I think his own wandering eye, his own finicky nature, 169 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: might have actually cost him his best chance to win 170 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: the title, which is absolutely crazy to me. Um As 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: far as the Brooklyn angle goes, it's really not all 172 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: that complicated. Like they need somebody to fill in that 173 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: spot up shooter role alongside the Stars. That was what 174 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: they've been missing so badly with Joe Harris out, and 175 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: Seth Curry is a perfect fit there. I actually think 176 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: Seth Curry is a significantly better offensive player than Joe Harris. 177 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Joe Harris is a bigger, stronger athlete, so it's a 178 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: little bit more of a uh is a little bit 179 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: better of a fit in Brooklyn switching defensive scheme, and 180 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: that will be a shortcoming that they'll have to overcome. Obviously, 181 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: if you have guys like Seth Curry on the floor, 182 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: they can be targeted in a playoff series. But he 183 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: does fill in that offensive void and then some that 184 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: you lost with Joe Harris. But that team has always 185 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: been about finesse and offense. They've never had that brute 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: force physicality on the roster. Their best brute force physicality 187 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: has always been just the fact that Kevin Durant is 188 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: super tall, and when he had and when he does 189 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: try on defense, he can cause some problems. But they 190 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: have a real, rim, pressuring, freak athlete player that is 191 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: a deeply impactful player on the defensive end now in 192 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, smilar to the James Harden thing. I don't 193 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: expect his attitude to be an issue now the way 194 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it was in Philly, I think both players were acting out. 195 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that acting out is going to continue. 196 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: I think Ben Simmons will buy in and be a 197 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: very productive player in Brooklyn. And he feels, like I said, 198 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: that very specific archetype of that defensive minded forward that 199 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: can guard the other team's best player and be a 200 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: good rim pressuring player alongside all your shooting. And that's 201 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: where it gets really excited, because Ben Simmons is one 202 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: of the best drive and kick three point shot creators 203 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: that we have in the league, and so giving him 204 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: transition opportunities with Kevin Durant on the wing, with Kyrie 205 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Irving on the wing, with Seth Curry on the wing, 206 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: if Joe Harris can get healthy with him out there, 207 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: it's really easy to see a new dynamic to that 208 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Brooklyn offense that could be really, really hard to stop. 209 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And that defensive end is the part that's most interesting 210 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: to me because in that Eastern Conference semifinal series against 211 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: Milwaukee last year, there's a lot of Blake Griffin guarding 212 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Janice and he did okay, you know, because Blake is 213 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: savvy and he's big and strong, and he moved his 214 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: feet the best that he could. But towards the end 215 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: of that series, Milwaukee had that figured out. They were 216 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: doing a good job of clearing the side on his 217 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: post ups and giving him more space to operate, and 218 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: he was torching Brooklyn in that series. Ben Simmons is 219 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: a great body to throw at Jannis Anton and Cumbo. 220 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: That's a significant weapon to have in a playoff series. 221 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: Do we think Brooklyn would have beat Milwaukee if they 222 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: were healthy last year? Yes? Do we think they would 223 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: have done it again this year? Most likely? However, that 224 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: series takes on a new dynamic now because let's say 225 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Janice is just better. Let's say fifty point Game six 226 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, Janice is closer to what Janice is going 227 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: to be in that series than what he actually was 228 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: last year in that series. If that's the case, that 229 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: could tip the scales. And so having a guy like 230 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, a legitimate defensive weapon to throw at, honest 231 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: gives you just another card in your hand that you 232 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: might be able to play in that series. I talked 233 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: about all the time on the show that these playoffs 234 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: series they're like chess matches. It's always like move counter move, 235 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: and you're always working the matchups. And so having a 236 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: guy like Ben Simmons that you can throw into those 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: specific matchups gives you just an additional versatility and it 238 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: increases your odds of being able to make that happen. So, 239 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: you know the question that we always ask ourselves after 240 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: a deal like this, is who won the trade. And 241 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: it's easy to say Philly because they got the best player, 242 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: right like Ben Simmons. His stock is at an all 243 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: time low because of his disastrous performance, and you know, 244 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: the we forget what he's capable of and because we 245 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: always just have that miss dunk burned into our memory, 246 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: right you know. But the truth is is I look 247 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: at it as what team has the best chances to 248 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: win the title. It's hard not to think of Brooklyn 249 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: as the winner when you factor in the fact that 250 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they right now look like the team that is most 251 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: capable of actually hoisting the trophy even though they sent 252 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: away the best player in the trade. So I I 253 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: I love the move for both teams, but I think 254 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn is the winner. I think they have the best 255 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: chance to win the title. And again, James Harden, it's 256 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: time to put up or shut up. Man. You have 257 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: forced your way out of situations. You've got yourself into 258 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: another situation here where there's a lot of pressure on you, 259 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: and you don't have a great history in these moments. 260 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm curious to see if he can live 261 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: up to that. 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As 299 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I've said on the show many times, there is something 300 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: wrong with this concoction of basketball players. This group doesn't 301 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: believe in what Frank is asking them to do. And 302 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: that is most evident in the fact that on any 303 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: given night there's roughly a coin flip chance that they'll 304 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: come out and just mail it in. Just like last 305 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: night in Portland, you had Lebron James and Anthony Davis, 306 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: you basically had everybody but Russell Westbrook, and you gave 307 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: one of your more pitiful efforts of the season. And 308 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: as I've said, like there's a lot of people who 309 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: tried to turn that into like a Hey, it's not 310 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Russ's fault. Look, they lost without him. As I've said, you, 311 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: you can't be this bad in the standings without many 312 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: things going wrong, not just Russell Westbrook. However, that the 313 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: trade off that happened in the in the Russell Westbrook trade, 314 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: losing all of those talented players is part of the 315 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: reason why we're here, So I always I always tie 316 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: those things together. Of course, Russ, at least the Rush 317 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: trade is part of why the Lakers are so incapable 318 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: of even going on the road to Portland and beating 319 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: a deliberately tanking basketball team. But the group, this group 320 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: of players is not functioning anymore. And so one of 321 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: my big theories is like, if you just swap out 322 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: like five of them, you can get five completely new 323 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: personalities in there, completely different basketball character, human beings in 324 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the room, then you might be able to mix it 325 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: up and strike, you know, catch fire again because it's 326 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: not always tied to the core. I mean a lot 327 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: of there was a lot of turnover last year. You 328 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: swapped out Danny Green for Dennis Schroeder, you brought in 329 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: Montrese Harold, you got rid of JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard, 330 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: you brought in Marcusol. But that group also carried on 331 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: the chemistry, carried on the commitment, carried on the identity 332 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: of the previous team. But this latest shake up of 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: the snow Globe did not. And so rolling into the 334 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: rest of this season with no trades, keeping everything, holding 335 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: onto assets is akin to punting the season in my opinion, 336 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: because unless they have intel on some fantastic buyout candidates 337 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: that are coming around, then it's hard for me to 338 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: even functionally imagine this team reaching a ceiling that is 339 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: capable of competing with the real teams in the league. 340 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, Lebron candidly admitted after the Milwaukee Bucks game 341 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: that he did not think that the Laker team was 342 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: even capable of possibly in the future, potentially reaching Milwaukee's level. 343 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: It was one of the craziest things I've heard from 344 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: him in his career, essentially admitting defeat in a lot 345 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: of ways. So too literally two days removed from that 346 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to make no moves to me, reeks of punting. It 347 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: seems to me like the like I we we all 348 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: saw reports like they didn't want to trade Westbrook because 349 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to wait till this summer, because this summer 350 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: they could package him with two first round picks and 351 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: maybe get some star or something like that in return. 352 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: If that was the ideology, if the ideology was hanging 353 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: on all the assets for this summer, then it's the 354 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: exact opposite of that thing I was just talking about 355 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: with Daryl Morey. You need cracks at the table, you 356 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: need poles of the slot machine, and when you punt 357 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: one of them, because you're waiting for next year, you 358 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: significantly hinder your odds because now you're going at it 359 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: with a thirty eight year old Lebron James who literally 360 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: just randomly playing basketball a couple of weeks ago his 361 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: knee inflated with fluid. Because he's thirty seven, things are 362 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: only going to trend further in that direction as Lebron ages. 363 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be harder and harder for him to stay 364 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: on the court. It's gonna be harder and harder for 365 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: him to maintain that m v P level of play 366 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: that he's shown for so much of this season. That 367 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: that's why I saw this season is such an opportunity. 368 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: You have Lebron and Anthony Davis right now playing this well, 369 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: how do you not try at least take a crack 370 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: at it? What do you what are you risking? Yes, 371 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: you lose, Yes you lose th HT potentially, but you 372 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: increase your title odds in this season and you give 373 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: yourself a realistic chance to win with two of the 374 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: best players in NBA history at their absolute peak. And 375 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: then the last angle of this that I find so infuriating, 376 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: it's just the Russell Westbrook attitude piece. You know, we 377 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: after the show ended the against the Bucks, we because 378 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: there was a delayed uh, they didn't get to the 379 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: press conferences until quite a way, quite a ways after 380 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: the game, and Russell Westbrook gets out there and just 381 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: starts talking absolutely reckless. We have this super awkward moment 382 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: out on the court where he's like petting Lebron and 383 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis on the head, and Lebron Anthony Davis are 384 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: looking super awkward and uncomfortable with the situation. Is russ 385 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: is like pointing over to Frank and me and like, 386 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: he didn't let me help you guys. And then he's 387 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: in the press conference talking about how he's earned the 388 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: right just through his reputation to be in closing lineups, 389 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: and he talked about how he viewed the booze as 390 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: a sign of respective. Is a truly bizarre press conference 391 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: And why was it bizarre? It's bizarre because you literally 392 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: have one of the biggest egos in the league going 393 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: through an identity crisis, going through the NBA's version of 394 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: a midlife crisis. We had reports the other day that 395 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: he literally refuses to work out with Phil Handy, that 396 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: was reported by Kendrick Perkins. This guy is in a 397 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: phase of denial. In that phase of denial makes him volatile, 398 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: and you have now signed yourself up to have a volatile, 399 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: huge ego who is currently in denial around the team 400 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and it's not going to 401 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: go well. There's no universe where it goes well. Like 402 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: this transition for Russ is gonna take time, just like 403 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: it did for Mellow. It could take years for him 404 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: to finally understand and realize the kind of changes he 405 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: has to make in order to remain a productive NBA player. 406 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: You don't want to be around for those growing pains. 407 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: That's why Houston sent him home. That's why Houston sent 408 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: Mellow home. I mean, so, I'm just confused by it 409 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: because like that, you would think at this point, um, 410 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you would need to somehow have a conversation with Russ 411 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: that convinces him that his role has to be shrunken 412 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: massively for this team to to perform. We actually heard 413 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: from Frank Vogel last night after the loss in Portland, 414 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: straight up came out and said, like, there are going 415 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: to be Knights where I go with Russ in the 416 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: closing group, and there are going to be Knights where 417 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't. That's him basically saying, regardless of what Russ said, 418 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: regardless of any of the antics, I'm going to continue 419 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: to mention if he's not playing well in these clothes, 420 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: if not playing well enough to earn the right to 421 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: close these games. And so I'm just I'm confused at 422 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: the idea of the Lakers willingly signing up to have 423 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: that around the team, that type of that type of 424 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: turmoil around the team. And the weird angle to this 425 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: now is if they're really going to push forward, if 426 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: they're really just gonna go for it with what they've 427 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: got in a handful of buyout guys, then you're gonna 428 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: learn a lot about the mental makeup of this team 429 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: over the course of the next few weeks, because it 430 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: could either spiral horribly out of control or something will 431 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: rise up within them where where their competitive nature will 432 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: take over and some better version of this team will 433 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: materialize that doesn't just go for Uss, that goes for 434 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: the whole team. You know, Lebron and a Dye weren't 435 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: very good last night, But like, maybe maybe Russ will 436 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: acknowledge the realities of the situation and undergo a change, 437 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem likely. I I just Lebron said 438 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: in the postgame press or last night that the team 439 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: was stuck in a fog and they're having a hard 440 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: time seeing what's on the other end of the fog. 441 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: And then refusing to go through any sort of roster 442 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: turnover is the equivalent of signing up for the fog. 443 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's like punting the season. Genuinely confused. 444 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: I was prepared to come in today and talk about 445 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: new Lakers. It's prepared to talk about maybe a Terence Ross, 446 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe and Eric Gordon's someone that would come onto the 447 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: wing here and make a huge difference because of the 448 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: short the talent shortcomings of this roster. And instead we're 449 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: playing Golden State on Saturday with the same guys, and 450 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same group that's probably gonna come 451 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: out and have the same lack of daisical nature, the 452 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: same lack of belief in what the coaches asking them 453 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: to do, and they're probably gonna get their butts kicked 454 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: because Golden State is a really good team who's really 455 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: well coached, who has an identity that they lean on, 456 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, they don't have that same basketball chemistry 457 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: issue that the Lakers have. They fit, they great even 458 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: when guys are out of the lineup. So I'm disappointed 459 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Hope hopefully they'll hopefully 460 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: they hopefully they have some intel that we're that we're 461 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: not aware of. Anyway, That's all I had for today. Guys, 462 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming to hang out. Like 463 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: I said, we will be back for our postgame show 464 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: on Saturday, immediately after the final buzzer against the Warriors. 465 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate your support and we will see 466 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: you in a couple of days. The volume