Speaker 1: Okay, we're back to part two between us doctors. I'm
Speaker 1: doctor Terry debro and you are.
Speaker 2: I'm doctor Robert Schwartz, my buddy.
Speaker 1: Too crazy wild and crazy boards certified plastic surgeons. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have some really actually I think, very good and
Speaker 1: relevant and useful listener questions. Okay, so when we go ahead,
Speaker 1: we talked about the Leanne Rhimes deep Jaw release video
Speaker 1: that's gone viral. Okay, don't do it. It's a scam
Speaker 1: to give me a break.
Speaker 2: And it's dangerous. Yeah, more than anything else, it's really
Speaker 2: really danagerous.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you think Marco Robbie's slimmer face is more
Speaker 1: likely from buckle fat removal or weight loss for mozambic
Speaker 1: or just normal aging? So have you seen a recently,
Speaker 1: I mean extraordinarily beautiful woman obviously, you know, genetically gifted
Speaker 1: and a very good actress too. Obviously I have noticed.
Speaker 1: I did look at that. I did look at that.
Speaker 1: So I don't think Margot Robbie has had buckle fat removal,
Speaker 1: which is a procedure. By the way, it takes like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. You make incisions on the inside of the
Speaker 1: upper part of the mouth, right across from the second molar,
Speaker 1: and you dissect into this compartment of the face that
Speaker 1: has this sort of little extra pad of fat that's
Speaker 1: below the muscle, you know, that's on the other side
Speaker 1: of the muscle, the deeper side, and it can make
Speaker 1: your face if it's round, thinner. And I think we
Speaker 1: both agree that it's rarely indicated in patients only in
Speaker 1: very specific situations. Should you even consider it in a
Speaker 1: young patient because you may pay for it later when
Speaker 1: you look much older. So how often do you do
Speaker 1: buckle fat decision?
Speaker 2: Very rarely. Yeah, I get people coming forward and I
Speaker 2: usually talk them out of it, right, Yeah, I usually
Speaker 2: talk them out of it. It's just that's one of
Speaker 2: those things. I don't have an object. That's not one
Speaker 2: of those things that I'll go like, oh, never do this.
Speaker 2: But it's not on my you know, a list. I
Speaker 2: think it's it's mildly effective at best. And frankly, you
Speaker 2: got to think about some of these procedures long term,
Speaker 2: because fat in your face is a valuable commodity as
Speaker 2: you get older, right, and you don't just want to
Speaker 2: like wantonly remove it. It's a bad idea.
Speaker 1: So my first five years when I came out. It
Speaker 1: was the hottest procedure. We did it on everybody. Every
Speaker 1: guy wanted it gave them more of a terminator kind
Speaker 1: of jawline and a little bit yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it really creates that little hollow below your cheek.
Speaker 1: It can and now, of course, like everything else, we've
Speaker 1: learned when it's a good idea and when it's really
Speaker 1: not a good idea. And I think it's someone like
Speaker 1: a Christy Tiagan who has a very round face that
Speaker 1: it can be useful. Particularly she's sort of over forty,
Speaker 1: so we sort of know what she's going to look
Speaker 1: like in the future. I think that's pretty safe. But
Speaker 1: I think if you do it in sort of a
Speaker 1: Margot Robbie situation, it's probably a really bad idea. I doubt.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think she's had. My suspicion is that
Speaker 1: she's just a little thinner, you know, I think actresses,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I talked about this, We talked
Speaker 1: about this ozempic anarex anorexy ozempica thing where you know,
Speaker 1: we're basically able to shut off her appetites now using
Speaker 1: these GLP one drugs. And I just think some people
Speaker 1: are just taking a little too far and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: maybe she's just a little thin right now. And that's
Speaker 1: not to say that Margot Robbie's on a GLP one.
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but who knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't look. I think she looks a little
Speaker 2: leaner overall. And buckle fat doesn't do that. Bubble fat
Speaker 2: removes a little bit of fat from a very specific area.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you look it doesn't make your face
Speaker 2: look thinner overall. It doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: So a deep plan necklift with sub mandibular land shaving.
Speaker 1: So the submandibular gland it's located sort of halfway between
Speaker 1: the tip of the chin and the angle of the
Speaker 1: jaw back there, okay, and it's it's just below the
Speaker 1: bone and it can bulge a little bit. And there
Speaker 1: are some well known surgeons who actually get in there
Speaker 1: and they have a device and they they shave it up.
Speaker 1: Some guys actually remove it. They take it out of
Speaker 1: a capsule and they cut it up, and I you know,
Speaker 1: you can get The main side effect, of course, is
Speaker 1: zero stomia. Right is the dry mouth if you bugger
Speaker 1: it up too much, because.
Speaker 2: It's really called a syalys eel where you get a
Speaker 2: fluid pocket of saliva in your neck, that's right, or
Speaker 2: or major nerve injury that can paralyze part of your face.
Speaker 1: Right. So there are some surgeons though, who get in
Speaker 1: there and they use a shaving device and they take
Speaker 1: sort of the outer edges of it off. I think
Speaker 1: I think it's rarely indicated. I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: the risk outweigh the benefits. I know there's a couple
Speaker 1: of guys out there who are well known to do
Speaker 1: it routinely, and and I have seen because I always
Speaker 1: see everybody's mess ups. So I get to see they're
Speaker 1: old records and they charge. They probably some of those
Speaker 1: guys who do it routinely charge you know, eighty five
Speaker 1: ninety thousand for a procedure that probably takes four minutes
Speaker 1: on each turn.
Speaker 2: Eighty five ninety thousand just for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's an addisle. Yeah yeah, and uh nice.
Speaker 1: I think mostly it's probably not a good idea in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Now, that's the thing about plastic surgery. I'm caring.
Speaker 1: I want to hear your opinion. Plus surgery, you get
Speaker 1: ten good plastic surgeons, you're going to get seven different
Speaker 1: kinds of opinions. What do you think about it?
Speaker 2: I think I always look at these things from a
Speaker 2: risk benefit perspective, and so I think, with very very
Speaker 2: rare exceptions, the difference you're going to get in your
Speaker 2: result of the facelift in terms of how overall much
Speaker 2: younger or better the patient looks. I think anything you
Speaker 2: do to the sub mandibular gland, no matter how aggressive,
Speaker 2: it's at best the sprinkles on the frosting on the cake,
Speaker 2: it's definitely not the cake.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And if it were a completely benign procedure that we
Speaker 2: all do, you know, take off a little bit of
Speaker 2: the submanadbuta it is not that. Though it is a potent,
Speaker 2: it is a procedure that is going to add little
Speaker 2: to your result, if anything, and is exposing you to
Speaker 2: some pretty significant risks. And so for me, that's a
Speaker 2: bad idea. Okay, just a bad idea. Why are we
Speaker 2: going to add potential significant risks to a procedure for
Speaker 2: very little better?
Speaker 1: Okay, So if we were doing a smasher pass, it
Speaker 1: would be a pass. If you noticed this thing that
Speaker 1: they're doing an Instagram smasher pass, Okay, you pass? Okay.
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Speaker 2: We have very different feed I know it's.
Speaker 1: These two AI cats because I love cats that are
Speaker 1: talking to each other, and one atisode. I know in
Speaker 1: one episode they show they go, okay, guys, it's okay,
Speaker 1: time for a smasher pass. And they show this cat
Speaker 1: you know, sitting there and they go, ooh, I would
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Speaker 1: They show another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what they're referring to in smash
Speaker 2: or pass. I don't think they're referring to your submandibular glass.
Speaker 1: And then then oother ones again, they show another cat
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Speaker 1: all right, no, no, no, I'm into AI generated cats
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about fat transfer to the bread US. Very interesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what we're talking about is there's essentially two ways
Speaker 1: to do a breast augmentation right now. There actually there
Speaker 1: may be more because there's no other things like alo clay,
Speaker 1: and you can inject other kinds of injectibles. But then
Speaker 1: you know, okay, run.
Speaker 2: It wallow Clay is processed fat.
Speaker 1: If I remember it's cadaver fat, cadaver fat, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's better. Yeah, I know, all right, so.
Speaker 2: Weird how it's how much more appealing it sounds when
Speaker 2: you call it Alo Clay's are calling it fat from
Speaker 2: a dead person? I know, right, good, Hey, nice job
Speaker 2: marketing team on the renaming.
Speaker 1: Right way to go. But what are we going to
Speaker 1: call this some dude dead dudes fat that we're putting
Speaker 1: in people's press.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, fat fat into corpse.
Speaker 1: So no, I've got the idea. It's called it. By
Speaker 1: the way, it's it's weirdly similar to the way they
Speaker 1: named drugs. I mean, who thought of turzeppetite or moncharo?
Speaker 1: How about way to hold on Moonjaro.
Speaker 2: They basically took Killimunjaro and took the kill out, which
Speaker 2: was a good move.
Speaker 1: Where did zep bound come from? Who thinks of the
Speaker 1: zep bound?
Speaker 2: But by the way, look at look at just look
Speaker 2: at the way they name our implants. Right, The softer
Speaker 2: allergan implant is the responsive implant, right, and the firmer
Speaker 2: one is the soft touch.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how does that make right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well done? Boys, Yeah, well done?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Or what about the people who named I don't mean
Speaker 2: to call this, but what about the people who named Zeman?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's one of the botoxes Zman.
Speaker 7: Suriously, really seriously, because when I first heard that, when
Speaker 7: I was like in my fifties, I'm not proud of this.
Speaker 2: I still would.
Speaker 1: Yeah really, okay, that's.
Speaker 2: What you're putting in your face.
Speaker 1: So currently the two ways and people are combining them.
Speaker 1: By the way to make your breast larger is either
Speaker 1: to use, of course, a breast implant, it's been around
Speaker 1: since the seventies, and or adding fat from sort of
Speaker 1: like a bbl of the breast fat transfer to the breast. Okay,
Speaker 1: and that is an acceptable way theoretically of adding some
Speaker 1: volume to your breast. Now, what's interesting is when we
Speaker 1: were young plastic surgeons, the dermatologists were doing that, and
Speaker 1: we ragged on them to no end. We thought that's
Speaker 1: so dangerous, and then, of course, thirty years later, it's
Speaker 1: now an accepted procedure in plastics. What you see a
Speaker 1: lot with fat transfer, which I think is really sort
Speaker 1: of doesn't make sense for me, people who've had multiple
Speaker 1: previous operations have a lot of scarring. We'll go to
Speaker 1: a doctor and the doctor will do liposuction from somewhere
Speaker 1: and inject it into that scarred up breast. Well, think
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, you're basically taking a potted plant
Speaker 1: from one soil bed and putting it, digging it up
Speaker 1: and put into another, depending upon how well irrigated the
Speaker 1: other soil bed get, you know, and whether it's a
Speaker 1: good environment for it to live and take. And if
Speaker 1: you injected into a breast that's had multiple previous operations
Speaker 1: and a lot of scarring, what are the chances it's
Speaker 1: going to get its own independent blood supply and live low.
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, I mean, if you're lucky and
Speaker 1: it doesn't, it just gets absorbed. If you're unlucky and
Speaker 1: it doesn't get its own blood supply and absorb it
Speaker 1: can turn into what we call fat necrosis or oil
Speaker 1: cysts and be painful or granuloma's foreign body directions or worse.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I think you hit the nail on the
Speaker 2: head with your soil analogy, because literally what you're doing
Speaker 2: in that case is you're taking some sort of tropical
Speaker 2: plant from Florida and tried to plant it in Arizona.
Speaker 1: That's a good and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not going to work. I was the first person
Speaker 2: to do that procedure in Dallas really, so after it
Speaker 2: was you know, basically we got the ok that, oh yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't get mistaken for cancer. So I have a
Speaker 2: fair amount of experience doing this and it's an okay
Speaker 2: procedure at best. And so when someone comes to me
Speaker 2: for a breast augmentation, they want to know should they
Speaker 2: do fat or breast implants? The answer is never fat.
Speaker 2: And the problem isn't because it's so risky. It's because
Speaker 2: it's so minimally effective, and there's a number of problems
Speaker 2: with it. The first is you can only put so
Speaker 2: much fat in the average female breast because you have
Speaker 2: to put the fat in as little micro droplets or
Speaker 2: it doesn't survive. You can't just go and squirt a
Speaker 2: big amount of fat in there. It just dies and
Speaker 2: it creates the problems you just talked about. So you
Speaker 2: can't do that. So there's only so many places you
Speaker 2: can put it.
Speaker 1: When is it useful for small augmentations at best?
Speaker 2: It's used in my book it's useful for a patient
Speaker 2: who comes in primarily for lipos suction and is of
Speaker 2: the feeling that, hey, instead of wasting the fat, let's
Speaker 2: get what we can in my breasts out of this fat. Okay,
Speaker 2: but got no issue with that. That's a great use
Speaker 2: of it. You'll get something, Okay. But here, I don't
Speaker 2: think I've ever done one where you can't tell the
Speaker 2: difference afterwards.
Speaker 1: Right. But here in Beverly Hills, the people who are
Speaker 1: trying to market their practice are doing combo platters. Now
Speaker 1: that's the big thing. Do a breast implant? Do a
Speaker 1: breast implant take fat from the stomach and inject it
Speaker 1: at the same time. I think it's not the greatest
Speaker 1: idea because you're lifting up the breast tissue radically reducing
Speaker 1: the blood supply to create a pocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, compressing the breast tissue at the same time, right.
Speaker 1: And compressing it. And then just as you're sort of
Speaker 1: waiting for it to re establish its blood supply, which
Speaker 1: it will increase its blood supply as it's healing, you're
Speaker 1: now putting a vascular demand on it by asking it
Speaker 1: to give fat transferred into it its own independent blood supply.
Speaker 2: I think it's a mistake in addition to whatever risks
Speaker 2: there are of the breast implant.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I call sham. Okay, so pass mostly on
Speaker 1: fat transfer, pass on combination implants and fat transfer, and okay.
Speaker 2: So I would say pass, I would say, I would
Speaker 2: say smash on fat transfer in the right patient. Okay,
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. I would say, pass on implants
Speaker 2: plus fat transfer. I can find no convincing argument that
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, or results that anyone has ever shown
Speaker 2: that would suggest to me that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Okay, do surgeons take lung lunch breaks or pee while
Speaker 1: we have lung operations. So let's say you're doing a
Speaker 1: five hour operation. You're doing a breast augmentation, at breastlift
Speaker 1: and at tummy tuck. How long will that take you?
Speaker 1: Five five and a half something like that.
Speaker 2: You're talking about a breast dog, a breastlift, and a
Speaker 2: tummy talk. Yeah wait what.
Speaker 1: Master PETSI, tommy tuck og Master PEXI tummy tuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably about five hours.
Speaker 1: Okay, So five hours. So that's you know, and it's
Speaker 1: gruss you're crossing. It's your second case. You're going from
Speaker 1: ten to two thirty it's crossing past lunch. What do
Speaker 1: you typically do? Do you take a break, do you pee?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 2: I would rarely do either, so I would certainly not
Speaker 2: break for lunch. But I think it's acceptable to itself.
Speaker 1: But I think it's I think.
Speaker 2: It's acceptable to it's to step out and look, it's
Speaker 2: acceptable step out and p Obviously I'm not quite at
Speaker 2: that stage that I need to go that often, so
Speaker 2: usually I try to remember to go before we get
Speaker 2: in the car or whatever. So you know, it's generally
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen. I don't like hydrate heavily on
Speaker 2: the morning of serge okay, so that's rarely an issue.
Speaker 2: But I don't see anything wrong with it. Nor do
Speaker 2: I think there's anything wrong with stepping out and like
Speaker 2: having a protein bar or protein shake, but like no
Speaker 2: a half hour lunch, clocking out and clocking No.
Speaker 1: It's not so. Having said that, I would I surmont.
Speaker 1: I think that most surgeons, when they do an operation,
Speaker 1: even as long as seven to eight hours, never scrub out,
Speaker 1: never eat anything, and never pee. Wouldn't you agree with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this. There's a lot of operations that
Speaker 2: you're doing Okay. Operations in plastic surgery run that long
Speaker 2: is because people are doing multiple right right, and very
Speaker 2: often when that's happening, there's some point where you need
Speaker 2: to reprep and rate.
Speaker 1: Then you have a natural break, and then there's a
Speaker 1: natural break because you have to scrub back in, you know.
Speaker 2: While the nurses are doing that, where I could step
Speaker 2: out and go to the bathroom or have a little
Speaker 2: snack or something. But if it's just we're going continuously
Speaker 2: and there's an extraneous reason why I should do that,
Speaker 2: very rarely, I think think it's wrong as long as
Speaker 2: it's limited in scope.
Speaker 1: I think in the nearly thirty years that I've been
Speaker 1: doing this, I think I've probably scrubbed out from an operation,
Speaker 1: any operation, maybe twice con And what's weird is you're
Speaker 1: so focused and so into it that you would literally
Speaker 1: never have to pee. But the moment, it's the weirdest thing,
Speaker 1: isn't it. The moment you take your gown off. It's
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you.
Speaker 2: Go, oh, bladder reflex or whatever it is. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is. Yeah, no, Look, honestly, the anesthesiologist.
Speaker 1: Sometimes does that, but you know, yes, they do it.
Speaker 2: They're not serge. And by the way, when they when
Speaker 2: when they come back from that, please tell me you
Speaker 2: relentlessly mock them for it.
Speaker 1: I said, it must be nice. They said, did you
Speaker 1: bring a new playlist? Just let's face it, they're they're anethesiologist.
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Speaker 1: What is the best way to remove a scar? And
Speaker 1: of course the answer is it depends, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really depends. So if we were talking about
Speaker 2: it depends why we're removing the scar, right, Let's see,
Speaker 2: let's say it's least or thickened or way you cut
Speaker 2: it out? And Rea, Yeah, sometimes you inject some steroid
Speaker 2: at the same time you do that.
Speaker 1: What about if it's a flat scar that just could
Speaker 1: be better, like too wide, too wide, irregular something. Some
Speaker 1: areas of it are slightly you know, you're.
Speaker 2: Basically essentially what you're doing is you're recreating the wound
Speaker 2: and closing it better.
Speaker 1: Right, But there is a role for PRP micro needling,
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, and some laser. It's a thing,
Speaker 1: and it's a big thing here in Beverly Hills. Lots
Speaker 1: of PRP microneedling and laser and actually, you know it
Speaker 1: can remodel the scar. I know what you're thinking, let's
Speaker 1: eat because we're surgeons, give me a break. Let's just
Speaker 1: cut it out, give me ten minutes and restart block
Speaker 1: and it'll be better. Right.
Speaker 2: I think those things are better. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: discount that there that they have a role. I think
Speaker 2: the role is limited, and I think they tend to
Speaker 2: be more effective when the issue with the scar is
Speaker 2: either the color of the scar or the texture of
Speaker 2: the scar. Is it not going to fix a pale
Speaker 2: wide scar, It's not going to fix the hypertrophixed car.
Speaker 1: I think if the scar to do that, if the
Speaker 1: scars red and you put pressure on it with your
Speaker 1: fingers and the red as goes away, it can be
Speaker 1: very helpful to do an ipl intense pulse light treatment
Speaker 1: to try to get the circulating blood in the superficial
Speaker 1: vessels to get out of there, and that can be
Speaker 1: very helpful.
Speaker 2: Is it ever a good that case it will fade
Speaker 2: and shrink the scar?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it ever a good idea to have plastic
Speaker 1: surgery outside of the US?
Speaker 2: Okay, so the way most people do it? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Look, are there good plastic surgeons all around the world,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Yes. Are those the people that are marketing
Speaker 2: to you who are in say Mexico or Turkey or whatever, right, No, right, No,
Speaker 2: they are excellent plastic surgeons in Mexico. They're in you know,
Speaker 2: places like Mexico City at major hospitals, and by the way,
Speaker 2: they're probably just as expensive as American surgeons.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem. The problem is if you come back
Speaker 1: here and with a complication, nobody wants to touch you. No,
Speaker 1: you're kind of that's your your WIT's in there, I think, I.
Speaker 2: Think, look, look, it's it's it's not necessarily a great
Speaker 2: idea to fly in the ideally in the weeks following
Speaker 2: plastic surgery or any surgery. Yeah, there's a heightened risk
Speaker 2: of a flight, and particularly an overseas flight, right, and
Speaker 2: if you're going to the best people in these places
Speaker 2: for the most part, your savings are not going to
Speaker 2: be that compelling. But that's not who's.
Speaker 1: Marketing, that's true. So not a good.
Speaker 2: Idea't know what you're getting.
Speaker 1: Except for maybe a hair transplant. In Turkey, they seem
Speaker 1: to really got that wired. They can, they do a
Speaker 1: good job, and it costs next to nothing, and they
Speaker 1: put you in a hotel room. I've seen this on internet.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, Still, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I think medical tourism. You're you're you're a pass, not
Speaker 1: a smash for that.
Speaker 2: I look, I'm a pass just because I think it's
Speaker 2: hard to evaluate how good doctor is here. It's hard
Speaker 2: enough to do. It's hard. I mean, we had a
Speaker 2: whole discussion about how hard it is to, you know,
Speaker 2: choose a good plastic surgeon. And when someone asked me, oh,
Speaker 2: who's a good roomatologist for me to go to? No,
Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's hard enough to fiure out
Speaker 2: who a good doctor is here, try and figure it
Speaker 2: out in some other contract.
Speaker 1: Agree, Well, we have many more listener questions that we'll answer.
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Speaker 2: get the Whiskers podcast. Oh if your phone is listening,
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, that was your plan all along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I think And next time on between
Speaker 1: us doctors. I think we're going to talk about something
Speaker 1: even more shocking and interesting than we have even in
Speaker 1: the last two and this has been very good and helpful.
Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed it, and we will see
Speaker 1: you next time.