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Speaker 3: Jmart what's up man? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Doing pretty well? Not bad. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: games played today. I've watched a whole lot of sports,

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Speaker 1: and some of this stuff has not been closed. We've

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Speaker 1: had a couple of real interesting things happened today, and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure coming in whether or not that was

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Speaker 1: gonna be the case. I really was wondering if it

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Speaker 1: was just gonna be chalk all day long because the

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Speaker 1: slate was sort of it just felt like it was

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Speaker 1: made to be kind of dull, and there was plenty

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Speaker 1: of that. But there's been a lot of stuff to

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Speaker 1: keep me entertained today. Although the baseball got out of

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Speaker 1: control tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me let's start with some college football. There's

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Speaker 2: two outs in the ninth. As Kevin Wyer just told you,

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Speaker 2: Arizona's up nine to one in Game two of the

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Speaker 2: World Series, although a Daaldus Garcia is up right now,

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Speaker 2: so who knows, you know, maybe he'll extend it like

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Speaker 2: he you know, he's done with everything else this postseason.

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Speaker 2: But college football is interesting because we'll talk Oklahoma a second,

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Speaker 2: but there was all sorts of stuff in this late

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Speaker 2: window that felt like it could break the other way.

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Speaker 2: Washington was on the ropes at Stanford for quite a while.

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Speaker 2: You know, Colorado Ucla. It's a twenty, it's six, a

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Speaker 2: twelve point lead for UCLA right now, but there was

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Speaker 2: a couple moments in time where you felt like UCLA

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Speaker 2: was on upset alert. Four turnovers in the first half

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Speaker 2: in that one. Ohio State was in a back and

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Speaker 2: forth game at Wisconsin today. So I just bring it up, Jason,

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Speaker 2: because it's exactly what you said, is that we did

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Speaker 2: have a major upset. Oklahoma will get to it momentarily,

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Speaker 2: but it felt like this evening there were two or

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Speaker 2: three games that could really swing the narrative and swing

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Speaker 2: where we lead the show and all of that, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you know, everything basically turned

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Speaker 2: out as planned, and here we are with only Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: as a legitimate team that won that lost earlier in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it felt like you had a lot

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Speaker 1: of near misses. You had a lot of higher ranked

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Speaker 1: teams expected winners take some pretty good haymakers from their opponents,

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Speaker 1: especially in this late window like you just mentioned. And look,

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Speaker 1: you have to give props to the teams that still

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Speaker 1: won those games, because that can be difficult to do

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Speaker 1: when the momentum feels like it's against you, and you

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Speaker 1: kind of also feel like almost everybody watching you want

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Speaker 1: you to lose in that spot, because everybody except your

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Speaker 1: own fans gets behind the underdog, and sometimes that can

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Speaker 1: wash over you. And at the same time, one of

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Speaker 1: the hardest things to do for an underdog is to

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Speaker 1: have a lead, see it evaporate, and then still find

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Speaker 1: a way to win, which will get to one of

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Speaker 1: those happening here in a moment. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that when you look at USC when you look at Washington,

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Speaker 1: when you look at Ohio State, you know, those are

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Speaker 1: three circumstances that all three ended up going in favor

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Speaker 1: of the team that you anticipated winning before the game began,

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Speaker 1: but they did have to earn it. Even though Pennick's

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Speaker 1: played really well when you look at his stats for Washington,

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Speaker 1: Washington's Washington right now is doing their best flying Wi

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Speaker 1: lends act like they are. They are one trapeze jump

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Speaker 1: kind of treacherous for them, and we are. We've talked

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Speaker 1: to USC to death and guess what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: more of that as well?

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Speaker 2: I would bet yeah, absolutely, Let's get to the big game,

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Speaker 2: the big results though, And speaking of USC, their former

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Speaker 2: their head coach, Lincoln Riley obviously came from Oklahoma. Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: has certainly had a resurgence post Lincoln Riley this year

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Speaker 2: as they entered the day seven to zero standing alone

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Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve championship game. But I'll tell you, Jason,

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Speaker 2: there's something about going to the state of Kansas late

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Speaker 2: Two years ago, when Lincoln Riley was still at Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, the Oklahoma Sooners entered as the undefeated leader

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Speaker 2: they lost thirty eight to thirty three as the final score.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it does look like we have a

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Speaker 2: World Series seven to one. Is nine to one. Excuse

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Speaker 2: me as the final score there. We'll get to that momentarily, Jason.

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Speaker 2: But Oklahoma the big loser today, and now I'll say

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Speaker 2: it makes everything a lot more interesting you actually have.

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Speaker 2: How about this, Five teams tied atop the lost column

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Speaker 2: with one loss in the Big Twelve. Well, obviously most

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Speaker 2: losing to the Kansas Jayhawks in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is one where with five minutes left

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Speaker 1: felt like, here comes the turnover, and here this was

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Speaker 1: a nice story, but oh you was gonna find their

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Speaker 1: I felt like Kansas scored faster than you would have

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Speaker 1: a hail Mary scenario. They had an opportunity they meaning

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma had to win the game. Credit to Kansas. That

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Speaker 1: for once, when you're watching that, you feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's probably justified, like Kansas fans getting to do that.

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Speaker 1: If ever, there was a school where that made sense

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Speaker 2: I would think, yeah, I don't know that it would

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Speaker 2: start any buzz. I think everybody's probably pretty happy with turnaround.

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Speaker 2: They go six and seven this year, last year, there's

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Speaker 2: seven in one right now. But you know, I think

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Speaker 2: it leaves very little margin for error, right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was an argument you get back to the Big

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Speaker 2: if you somehow lose to a Texas maybe there's a

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Speaker 3: Now that margin's just gone.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that it changes that much

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Speaker 2: for them, But again, the margin is wrong is gone.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, and all of a sudden, the schedule doesn't

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Speaker 2: get tough for you have at Oklahoma State next week

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Speaker 2: and then from there at BYU. That could be a

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Speaker 2: tough game in the cold weather. Jason really quickly. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to do a hard pivot here, but I

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Speaker 2: think it is worth at least acknowledging the Arizona Diamonbacks

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Speaker 2: did take Game two of the World Series. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I've enjoyed the heck out of these playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I know these are yeah, two non traditional teams. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the walkoff from Garcia last night. Diamondbacks get back tonight.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they look good, complete dominance nine runs

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Speaker 2: on sixteen hits. The Texas Rangers, excuse me, have just four.

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Speaker 2: But you know your reaction to tonight, your reaction to

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Speaker 2: this World Series so far as we are now two

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Speaker 1: Man, this one's been tough. I'm really I've been kind

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Speaker 1: certainly wanted them to beat the Phillies, and they got

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Speaker 1: that done, and it was a dramatic series and a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. But both both the Alcs

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Speaker 1: the NLCS were great to watch, they went down to

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Speaker 1: the wire. All those teams deserve to be there. I

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Speaker 1: certainly am listening to this hole. We might need to

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Speaker 1: do something about the layoff for teams that win, and

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Speaker 1: the reason why is because these are guys. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the most amazing thing about baseball med is these guys

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Speaker 1: say ninety percent of the innings that the Braves played

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Speaker 1: a five to six day layoff and then they can't

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Speaker 1: lot of good baseball being played. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of depth in the league. There's a

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Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that this one goes seven because I

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Speaker 1: just want to see a lot of baseball here. And

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Speaker 1: these are teams that you haven't watched as much, but

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Speaker 1: Arizona and the NL reminded you a lot of what

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Speaker 1: very young teams that are going to be here for

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Speaker 1: a while that might have might have arrived faster than

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're seeing. You're seeing two top flight organizations,

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Speaker 1: Arizona squad that's just they can really that. They played

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Speaker 1: some serious defense tonight as well. So it's just been great.

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Speaker 1: I have loved this baseball season more than any in

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Speaker 1: a long time, even the year that my guys won

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Speaker 1: here a couple of years ago in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're still coming back out of the pandemic

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Speaker 1: and everything. Still you're trying to get acclimated again this

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Speaker 1: with the with the rule changes, the faster pace. I've

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Speaker 1: just felt like the drama and the intensity of ramped up,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, this is a huge win all year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're certainly more of a baseball guy than

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Speaker 2: Slash match Jason, before we move, get back to college

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Speaker 1: Jason, No, not really. I mean I think we could have.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you mentioned that USC game. USC wins

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Speaker 2: what everyone's plans are. Blah blah blah blah blah, this

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Speaker 2: and that. But I don't think he should be as

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Speaker 2: hot of a candidate as some people seem to be

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Speaker 2: making him out to be. Now, listen, we don't know

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Speaker 2: if he really wants to go, and there's been differing reports,

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Speaker 2: and you know, does he want to go to the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Does he want to follow Caleb Williams? Is it all

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Speaker 2: made up? Is he happy at USC? I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't seem happy at USC. I mean, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you even saw the quote this week,

444
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Speaker 2: Jason where he kind of threw California High School under

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Speaker 2: the bus, like they're not recruiting very well. And somebody

446
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: asked him about recruiting southern California and he said, we

447
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Speaker 2: need the right players, and he said something to the

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Speaker 2: effect of, you know, we had guys on this team

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Speaker 2: when we got here, or we have guys that are

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Speaker 2: that are from California that I don't think should have

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Speaker 2: been on this team to begin with. It's there's something

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Speaker 2: definitely weird going on. And the only point I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to make is that you're absolutely right, is that if

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Speaker 2: you know, if he's there for the long term, it's

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Speaker 2: got to be fixed. And at a certain point it's

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Speaker 2: exactly what you said, is it's not like it's Alex

457
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Speaker 2: Grinch's fault the defensive coordinator, but it's also not because

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Speaker 2: this is year six, year seven as a head coach

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Speaker 2: and you've never fielded a good defense. So I don't

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Speaker 2: think this gets fixed this year. And then I think

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Speaker 2: fundamentally something has to change in this offseason where it's

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Speaker 2: not just about hiring somebody else. Like you just watch

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Speaker 2: that game. They're not well coached, they make dumb mistakes,

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Speaker 2: you know, even late in the game.

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Speaker 3: They you know they have the lead the.

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Speaker 2: Series that col scored the go ahead touchdown on or

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Speaker 2: the what would have been the go ahead touched on

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Speaker 2: if they got the two point conversion.

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Speaker 3: They had him on.

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Speaker 2: Third and long, and they committed dumb penalty, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a taunting penalty essentially that gave them a

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Speaker 2: new set of downs and allowed them to score. So

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Speaker 2: you know, you can blame outch and it's his fault,

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Speaker 2: and he's you know, if things don't improve rapidly, he

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have a job, And maybe he shouldn't even if

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Speaker 2: they do improve rapidly. But I still think ultimately at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, as long as Lincoln Rise

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Speaker 2: as the head coach, this does fall on him because

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Speaker 2: this is now year seven, year eight for him, and

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Speaker 2: the defense has never been good, uh, never been good

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Speaker 2: at any point. So tell you what, Jason, come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about some other college football stuff. A lot

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Speaker 2: to get too still. Before we do, though, let's toss

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Speaker 2: it over the news desk first time this evening, Kevin Wyatt,

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Speaker 2: What is trending?

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Speaker 3: My friend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: World Series Game two has just finished over in Arlington,

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Speaker 5: and the Diamondbacks entering tonight needing a win to even

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Speaker 5: up this best a seventh series at one game apiece,

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Speaker 5: and they did that in pretty easy fashion. They roll

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Speaker 5: over the Rangers nine to one, as Tommy fam slapping

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Speaker 5: that ball harder than he slapped. John Peterson going four

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Speaker 5: for four with two runs scores, Gabe Marino also going

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Speaker 5: deep for Arizona. The offense as a whole clicking for

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Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks as they even up the series, setting up

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Speaker 5: a pivotal Game three in Phoenix on Monday evening. College

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Speaker 5: football Action Today, we got a couple of tight ones

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Speaker 5: in the top twenty five, about sixty four seconds to

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Speaker 5: go in Atlanta, Georgia Tech clinging to a four point

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Speaker 5: lead against number seventeen North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Forty six forty two is the score.

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Speaker 5: Now it's down to about forty five seconds to go

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Speaker 5: as Georgia Tech with the ball and they just gone

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Speaker 5: a first down, so that should seal the game. The

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Speaker 5: Yellow Jackets on the way to beating the tar Heels

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Speaker 5: on their home field. Number twenty five James Madison a

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Speaker 5: thirty to twenty seven lead over Old Dominion. That game's

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Speaker 5: got plenty of more time left on it, though it

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Speaker 5: has about four and a half minutes ago in the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, Old Dominion with the ball in their own

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Speaker 5: territory with third and long as we speak, and a

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Speaker 5: PAC twelve after dark.

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Speaker 4: Game going on right now.

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Speaker 5: Number eleven Oregon State trailing Arizona ten to seven, ten

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Speaker 5: and a half to go in the first half. Some

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Speaker 5: notable scores from earlier today in college football. The upset

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Speaker 5: of the day coming in the Big twelve, Kansas takes

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Speaker 5: down number six Oklahoma thirty eight thirty three. The students

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Speaker 5: rust the field, grabbed the goalpost and took it through

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Speaker 5: into nearby lake. Number ten Penn State thirty three to

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Speaker 5: twenty four winners over Indiana at the world's largest outdoor

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Speaker 5: cocktail party. The top break Georgia Bulldogs in a partying move,

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Speaker 5: they roll the Florida Gators forty three to twenty. Number

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Speaker 5: seven Texas they blow out win against BYU thirty five

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Speaker 5: to six. In the Pac twelve, a big matchup between

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Speaker 5: Oregon and Utah ended up being a laugher as the

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Speaker 5: Ducks win it going away thirty five to six. Number

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Speaker 5: fourteen Notre Dame fifty eight to seven winners against pitt

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Speaker 5: Number eighteen Louisville shuts out Duke twenty three to nothing.

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Speaker 5: Twenty second ranked two lane holds on against Rice thirty

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Speaker 5: to twenty eight. Talking about number twenty four USC after

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Speaker 5: their two game losing streak to Notre Dame in Utah,

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Speaker 5: looking to get back on track against cal and this

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Speaker 5: one a lot closer than expected back and forth affair.

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Speaker 5: The Golden Bears had scored a touchdown to get it

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Speaker 5: within one. They needed an extra point to tie the game,

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Speaker 5: but instead they went for two to try to go

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Speaker 5: for the win two point.

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Speaker 7: Conversion try to give Cow the lead with fifty eight

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Speaker 7: seconds left in regulation time. Mendoza looks right, looks left,

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Speaker 7: being rushed, throws back at the end so knocked away

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Speaker 7: my Chalent Smith. Pressure applied up front by the Trojans

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Speaker 7: defensive line and it didn't give Mendoza any chance to

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Speaker 7: throw the ball where he wanted to throw it, and

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Speaker 7: the Trojans turn away the two point.

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Speaker 5: Conversion that was Petere arbagast On KLAC Los Angeles USC

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Speaker 5: escapes against California fifty to forty nine. Was also a

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Speaker 5: much tighter contest and Palo Alto than what was expected.

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Speaker 5: Number five Washington and Stanford the cardinal matching Washington's touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Each time it seemed like the Huskies would extend their lead,

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Speaker 5: the Cardinal would score and get it to within two.

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Speaker 5: But eventually Washington scores a touchdown and holds off Stanford

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Speaker 5: to win it by nine forty two to thirty three.

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Speaker 5: Michael Pennix three hundred and sixty nine passing yards, four touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: and an inn.

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Speaker 4: Number nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Air Force stays undefeated by beating their in state rival

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Speaker 5: Colorado State thirty to thirteen. Now, and interesting thing happened

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Speaker 5: in that game. We see penalties called all the time

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Speaker 5: on teams, but this is the first time, Ack, We're

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Speaker 5: going to call a penalty being called on the stadium's

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Speaker 5: fans as the home team fans were throwing snowballs at

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Speaker 5: Air Force players that caused the official to throw a

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Speaker 5: flag in Colorado State march back fifteen yards because of it.

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Speaker 5: Number twenty one Tennessee thirty three, twenty seven winners over Kentucky,

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Speaker 5: Third rched, Ohio State pulls away from Wisconsin twenty four

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Speaker 5: to twenty. Number twelve miss over Vanderbilt thirty three to seven.

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Speaker 5: Coach Prime goes to the Rose Bowl by its number

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Speaker 5: twenty three. UCLA comes away with a win twenty eight

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Speaker 5: to sixteen, and the game has gone final in Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: Georgia Tech does win it against North Carolina forty six

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Speaker 5: forty two.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Kevin Wire, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports, Fox Football.

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Speaker 3: Saturday Air Tours.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're in the final stretch to get

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Speaker 2: you can imagine. The San Gabriel Mountains, much like the

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Speaker 2: the Breeders Cup. Jason really quick a couple other results

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Speaker 2: from today. First of all, as Kevin Wyer just said,

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Speaker 2: UNC number seventeen in the country did officially fall to

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's been pretty irrelevant forever. Happy, happy

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Speaker 2: that they're having a moment here. I wanted to ask

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Speaker 2: you really quick. Two top twenty five matchups today. The

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Speaker 2: most high profile one was Oregon at Utah.

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Speaker 3: Utah.

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Speaker 2: Of course, coming off that win at USC this game was.

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Speaker 2: You know, Oregon was about a six, six and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. I think a lot of people thought

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Speaker 2: they could win. But thirty five to six is the

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Speaker 2: final score in this one. An absolute dominant effort by

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Speaker 2: the Oregon Ducks. I mean, they just really took it

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Speaker 2: to the Utai Utes. What did you make of a

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Speaker 2: great You know, it wasn't very fun to watch, but

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Speaker 2: I think it was a little bit of a statement

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Speaker 2: win from Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. It definitely was, because I mean

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Speaker 1: Utah makes it tough on everybody they play. Them not

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Speaker 1: having came rising this season certainly had to be deflating,

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Speaker 1: but they had still already done a lot. I kind

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Speaker 1: of look at this, and first off, the stat that

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Speaker 1: bo Nix has played fifty five games as a starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback in college football is just unreal. That's now a record.

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Speaker 1: But they looked the part today. In fact, they look

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Speaker 1: a lot more of the part than the team that

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Speaker 1: beat them two weeks ago. That Washington team hadn't looked

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Speaker 1: the same since they beat Oregon, and Oregon looks like

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Speaker 1: the better football team between the two right now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it was a better football team at that point. Still

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Speaker 1: found a way to lose one of the best games

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Speaker 1: that was played all season long, But maybe, and that

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Speaker 1: made not be doomed for them anyway. But boy, that

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Speaker 1: was definitely one of those where they know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that Dan Lanning understands this and his team understands is

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Speaker 1: Stoll Point's gonna matter for them at this stage. There

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Speaker 1: is not a twelve team playoff. Anything that they can

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Speaker 1: do to improve their resume, anything that can polish it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more they need to do. This was

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Speaker 1: one of those because Whittingham teams don't get beaten like

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Speaker 1: this very often. This was a kind of a thunderous

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Speaker 1: statement from Oregon that we're really good. Don't give up

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Speaker 1: on us. Yet they really look good today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Oregon. To me, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: take anything away from that Washington game. Washington won, That's

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Speaker 2: all that matters, you know. The result on the scoreboard

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Speaker 2: is all that matters. But you know, I remember even

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Speaker 2: going back to the Oklahoma Texas game where Texas, if

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Speaker 2: you look at the stats, I mean, you know, quinn

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Speaker 2: Ewers was amazing.

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Speaker 3: They had a goal line.

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Speaker 2: They were on the goal line, you know, first and

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Speaker 2: goal on the one they got zero. And I just

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Speaker 2: bring it up because you could have made the argument

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Speaker 2: even though Oklahoma won, that Texas was probably the better team.

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Speaker 2: And I think with the Oregon Washington game, I think

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Speaker 2: Oregon was the better team. Doesn't mean that Washington wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it wasn't a great game. Uh And by

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Speaker 2: the way, it doesn't mean that it does not matter

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Speaker 2: going forward. As as you just said, there's no wiggle

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Speaker 2: room for Oregon to feel good. They got to win

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Speaker 2: out and then even if even if you went out,

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Speaker 2: you still got to kind of see how the rest

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Speaker 2: of everything else shakes out.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was a great win.

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Speaker 2: For them, and I think you know, to me, when

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Speaker 2: you start talking about some of the more complete teams

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Speaker 2: in the country, teams that are good on offense and defense,

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Speaker 2: Oregon is right up there with pretty much just about everybody.

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Speaker 2: By the way, another team that kind of fits that bill.

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Speaker 2: Florida state number four in the country, they dominate.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And the Georgia Bulldogs number one. Everybody's doubting of no

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Speaker 2: brock Bowers. They win by twenty three. Again, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: even close.

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Speaker 3: No, it was it.

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Speaker 2: Florida scored I think in the final like minute or so. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it was a thirty point margin, and Uga scores late.

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Speaker 2: One thing I will say about Georgia and at top

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Speaker 2: of hour one we'll kind our top of our three.

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Speaker 2: At one am Eastern time, we'll kind of resettle out

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Speaker 2: of this, Jason. One thing I will say, the schedule

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Speaker 2: for Georgia all of a sudden looks much tougher. You know,

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Speaker 2: Missouri's playing well. Oh, miss is playing well. And of

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Speaker 2: course Tennessee one again tonight to improve to six and two.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what Jason will come back. I want to

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Speaker 3: talk one NBA topic. NBA opens this week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun action on the court, but what's

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Speaker 2: more interesting is what's going on off the court in Philly.

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Speaker 3: We explain next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot com studios, and we

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Speaker 2: are in the home stretch to get tickets to horse

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Speaker 2: racing's biggest moment of the year. The world's best are

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Speaker 2: headed to Santa Anita for the Breeders' Cup World Championships

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Speaker 2: on November third and fourth. The countdown begins now. Get

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Speaker 2: a great place to watch the breed, to watch any

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Speaker 2: horse racing. By the way, Jason, Friday, November third is Friday.

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Speaker 2: Could your boy Torres make an appearance at the track?

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I assumed it was Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But Friday and Saturday. And you're pretty close, right, I'm

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Speaker 2: about four exits on the highway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i's about say. You're not far away from Santa

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Speaker 1: Anita at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: It's a great place to watch horse racing. And I'll

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Speaker 2: say this, man, just going to the track is just

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Speaker 2: a fun a fun thing to do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I might have to look into this.

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Speaker 2: You know again, you can get to your tickets at

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Speaker 2: Breederscup dot com. You might be able to hang out

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Speaker 2: with Torres. That'll be fun. Anyway, back to the show, So, Jason,

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Speaker 2: by the way, a lot of college football, a lot

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Speaker 2: of NFL. We're gonna do a ton of NFL an

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Speaker 2: hour two, an hour three. But NBA tipped off this week.

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Speaker 2: And I will say, you know, a lot of really

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Speaker 2: intriguing storylines this year. You know, obviously the Nuggets are

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Speaker 2: the Raining, the Bucks have Dame Lillard. You know, the

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Speaker 2: Sons have Brad Beel, although he has not played yet.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of really interesting narratives. What might be

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Speaker 2: the most interesting narrative though, is the very strange situation

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Speaker 2: with James hard and the Philadelphia seventy six ers. And

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Jason, I have been very anti load management,

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Speaker 2: and obviously this year the NBA is trying to crack down.

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Speaker 2: And the ironic part for the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

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Speaker 2: they're playing hardball with James Harden at quite possibly the

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Speaker 2: worst possible time they could because for people who did

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Speaker 2: not see it, this week, James Harden basically wasn't showing

739
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: up for practice, wasn't doing anything, wasn't doing that. Then

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Speaker 2: he tried to show up for the plane. They refused

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Speaker 2: to let him on the plane. Then I could be mistaken,

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Speaker 2: but he tried to meet them on the road and

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Speaker 2: security stopped him there. But I just bring it up

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Speaker 2: because after all that, now the NBA is mad and

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Speaker 2: they're looking into seeing if the Philadelphia seventy six ers

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Speaker 2: kind of broke the player you know, the expectations that

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Speaker 2: players that are healthy are going to be playing in

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Speaker 2: these games. So the point I'm trying to make it

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Speaker 2: is just a very bizarre deal. Now Philadelphia is saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, we want him to ramp up back home,

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Speaker 2: we want him to work with the trainers. It feels

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Speaker 2: pretty clear to me that Philadelphia is basically saying, you

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be here, We're not going to do

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Speaker 2: anything to help you. You crush Darryl Morioll off season.

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Speaker 2: But now, because of this new quirky rule, which which

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Speaker 2: I am obviously in favor of, it could make it

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Speaker 2: a little bit more complicated.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just the only point I'm trying to make is

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Speaker 2: it is a weird, weird, weird deal with James Harden

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Speaker 2: and the Philadelphia seventy six ers right now.

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Speaker 1: It definitely is. So. Marcus Hayes, who writes for the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Inquirer, I was reading a piece about James Harden

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Speaker 1: that he wrote. I think it was published actually this morning,

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Speaker 1: early Saturday morning. This was one of the most just

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Speaker 1: vicious takedowns of a professional athlete of stature I have

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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Like in front of me.

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Speaker 1: I've got it in front of me. This is incredible

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Speaker 1: to some of this. I'm going to skip the first

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Speaker 1: part and say, at this point the Sixers need to

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Speaker 1: make a stand. They have to keep Hardon on the

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Speaker 1: payroll since he's under contract and he's reported, but they

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Speaker 1: don't have to play him another minute. There is zero

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Speaker 1: benefit to his presence at this point to any self

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Speaker 1: respecting organization. He should be as valuable as a twenty

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Speaker 1: year old jockstrap and as welcome as a workplace environment investigation.

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Speaker 1: This is a bad situation entirely of Harden's creation, and

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Speaker 1: it will only get worse. Like Bigfoot in the Yetti,

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Speaker 1: Harden should only exist in the Sixers complex as an

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Speaker 1: unverifiable myth. He deserves to be shunned like an amish

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Speaker 1: guy caught with an iPhone. In the best traditions of

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and Carson Wentz, Harden is nothing more than

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Speaker 1: a trader to the city, to the organization, to his teammates,

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Speaker 1: and to Darryl Morey, the executive who built both of

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Speaker 1: their careers on overestimating Harden's value. Then he goes on

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Speaker 1: to say that he was in China when he made

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Speaker 1: the statements about never playing for the Sixers again, and

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Speaker 1: he tells Harden to go back to China and stay there.

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Speaker 1: He also later on talks about two months of poor effort.

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Speaker 1: If he does hang around a cascade of fake injuries,

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Speaker 1: he'll miss games because of emotional distress or personal reasons.

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Speaker 1: It'll be two months of garbage. As out of spite,

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Speaker 1: he tries to prevent any cohesion of a team built

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Speaker 1: on a massively talented but fundamentally flawed center, a one

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Speaker 1: dimensional guard, a static small forward, and the oldest bodyguard

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. And then he talks about how he

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Speaker 1: went he mentored Tyrese Maxi, but the author of the

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Speaker 1: piece suggests Tyrese Maxi might actually survive being mentored by

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Speaker 1: James Harden. That's in the Philadelphia Inquirer about James Harden.

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Speaker 1: That man. It can I disagree with the word of it.

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Speaker 1: The answer is no.

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Speaker 2: No, it's critical, but it speaks to the tone around

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Speaker 2: this situation. It's incredible and by the way, like a

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Speaker 2: very important part that I did not mention. Adrian wol

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Speaker 2: Jnowski reported this week that the Los Angeles Clippers the

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Speaker 2: only team that seemingly he had any interest in him

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Speaker 2: have backed off. And this is this goes back to

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Speaker 2: what I said in June when all this started. I said,

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Speaker 2: everyone keeps saying, oh, you know, I mean, you gotta trade.

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Speaker 2: It's like, who would want to trade for this guy?

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Speaker 2: He's out of shape, he chokes in the playoffs. I'm sorry,

812
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Speaker 2: but it's true. He throws every coaching teammate he has

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Speaker 2: under the bus. It never ends well. And it's like

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Speaker 2: I kept hearing all offseason, Well, I mean the Clipper.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're the Clippers, you gotta It's like,

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Speaker 2: why do you gotta do it? Like the Clipper's got

817
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Speaker 2: enough problems keeping all their star players healthy as it is.

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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna bring in a malcontent. It's like, so,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not smart enough to know what's gonna

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Speaker 2: happen with this Philadelphia stuff, But I have a thousand

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Speaker 2: percent believe that there is no trade market for this guy.

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Speaker 2: And if he ever does get in front of the media,

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Speaker 2: I hope somebody has the guts to ask him that, Hey, James,

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Speaker 2: you've said you want to trade. You understand that nobody

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Speaker 2: wants you right now because of the attitude you have

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Speaker 2: because you've just basically given up on three straight franchises.

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Speaker 2: I'm going along, Jason, the floor is yours. But but

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Speaker 2: you know, I just I'm just stunned that nobody is

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Speaker 2: talking about that element of it, although it seems to

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Speaker 2: have finally hit this week.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that you're hearing more and more is even

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Speaker 1: the Sixers think he's out of shape.

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Speaker 3: Of course he is.

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Speaker 1: He's so this is a guy who wants to be

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Speaker 1: traded and thinks he's an asset, but he's not even

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Speaker 1: taking care of his body and doing something to make

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Speaker 1: himself more valuable. Like that tells you all you need

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Speaker 1: to know.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, Yeah, I've said that for you know, of

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Speaker 2: since the beginning. Is like it's just you know, like

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Speaker 2: there are other guys that I don't like, but I

842
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Speaker 2: think James Harden is literally delusional believing.

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Speaker 3: That it's twenty eighteen and he is still an MVB candidate.

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Speaker 3: He is not that. Fox Sports Radio Eric Torris.

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Speaker 2: you updated on that one busy day in college football, Jason.

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Speaker 2: But the team that this week became the odds on

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Speaker 2: it up because if that was where it all ended

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Speaker 2: for Michigan, we wouldn't be talking about them. Instead, it

866
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Speaker 2: has just been a cascade of negative storylines, negative headlines,

867
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: negative energy, all surrounding obviously the scandal with with Connor Stallions.

868
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Everybody knows the details. I'll take twenty seconds to set

869
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: it all up. But Connor Stallions, you know, a young

870
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: assistant coach. You know, basically, long story short, he seems

871
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: to be at the center of a sign stealing scandal.

872
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: I know everybody knows the details, but for people who don't,

873
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: it is not illegal to steal signs in college football.

874
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: What it is illegal to do is send coaches on

875
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: the road to scout other teams in person. And what

876
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: we learned this week was, according to a report from

877
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: the Washington Post, Michigan wasn't just doing that but doing

878
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: it egregiously. Per the Washington Post, they had they were

879
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: kind of planning on scouting up to eight games, eight

880
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State games in person this year, potentially eight Georgia games,

881
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: a team that could see in the College Football Playoff,

882
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: and a Yahoo reports seemed to speculate, not speculate. They

883
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: reported that Michigan scouted a number of teams in person,

884
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: not just in the Big Ten, but also teams they

885
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: could face in the playoff last year, such as Clemson, Tennessee,

886
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: et cetera.

887
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: On the road.

888
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: Jason, this was a story that just took a new

889
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: twist every day. What did you make of everything that

890
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: came out of ann Arbor this week?

891
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: At first, I kind of sat back and thought, maybe

892
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: it's overblown. Let's see because I know signs stealing the

893
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: sad new It's not like Michigan's first first team where

894
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: this has happened and all this. But as you start

895
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: to read more into it, and as you listen to

896
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: some of the even though they're anonymous in terms of

897
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: they're not naming what the coaches, but they're saying power

898
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: five coach from this conference or whatever saying this, you

899
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: realize how much of an advantage it creates. And it's

900
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: not that they were stealing signs that's going to happen.

901
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: It's that you were sending somebody on the road to

902
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: scout and that was outlawed, and so you're doing something

903
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: specifically against the rules, something that had been forbidden. And

904
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: then I started to think, well, is it possible that

905
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: this is somehow if there is some kind of wall

906
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: that kept Harbaugh from knowing what was happening, Is it

907
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: any way that you can separate the head of the

908
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: snake from what's going on in a scenario like this,

909
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know the answer to it. I mean,

910
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: we weren't there, so we're never gonna know. But it's

911
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: going to be hard to convince a lot of people

912
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: that everyone there didn't know what was going on. But

913
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've read in the Athletic

914
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: was a couple of Power five coaches saying that if

915
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: you just go back over the last two seasons and

916
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: watch Michigan games and basically watch the film of every

917
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: game with a coach there or with a coach's eye,

918
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: I think is how they describe it. If you look

919
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: on offense and defense and you basically total up the

920
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: number of times Michigan had a perfect play call queued

921
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: up based against the opposing scheme, regardless of the outcome.

922
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: That like, all right, so cover three is coming. Well,

923
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: we have this two pages of plays designed specifically to

924
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: beat cover three, for example, and that's how you can

925
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of surmise how often it happened and how effective

926
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: it actually was. So I went from, all right, this

927
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: might be overrated. Let's slow down a bit. Michigan's kind

928
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: of been in the news for all sorts of things

929
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: over the last year or so. Let's see what's happening

930
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: here too. Okay, this is a bigger deal than I thought,

931
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: And is this going to stick to Harball And is

932
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: this going to be kind of the beginning of the

933
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: end when it comes to him staying in college.

934
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? So, so I agree.

935
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: And it's funny because we barely even talked about it

936
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: last week, and you know, part of it was we

937
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: I feel like we had a busy show and I

938
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: can't remember everything that we talked about at this point.

939
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: But you know, I thought it was a little bit

940
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: of a bigger.

941
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: Deal from the beginning, just because you know, if you

942
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's bottom line of yes, it's a rule,

943
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: and we could debate whether it's a dumb rule, whatever,

944
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: but if you're literally the only ones doing it, then

945
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: it is an unfair advantage whatever. So I just bring

946
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: all of it up to say I thought it was

947
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bigger deal. But as time

948
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: goes on, it is so obvious that it was so

949
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: far beyond just sign stealing, And you know, it was

950
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: funny to see, you know, Michigan fans defend it pretty

951
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: much everybody else kind of realizes what a big deal

952
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: it was. And that was what stood out to me

953
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: was that you know, over the week you hear Matt

954
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: Rule a deon Sanders. Oh you know everybody steals signs. No, no, no,

955
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: this is not the same. This is not this is

956
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: not equivalent to just being on the sideline and thinking

957
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: you have things figured out. And the interesting part is,

958
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: obviously the report that came out from Yeahoo, I guess

959
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: it would have been on Thursday, about the fact that

960
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: TCU knew signs were being stolen. TCU was using dummy signs,

961
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: and you know that led to a loss for Michigan.

962
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: And so to me, one, I.

963
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: Do think it is a big deal because it's it's

964
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: a competitive it's certainly a competitive advantage.

965
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: And let me ask you a question before.

966
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: Wait, did you think it was a big deal originally

967
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: or have you has it increased or did you immediately

968
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: know it was a big deal or were you kind

969
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: of like me where you're like, all right, let's see

970
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: just how serious this was, and then as more came out,

971
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, this is a big deal.

972
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: I always thought it was a big deal, but I

973
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: think it's only gotten bigger with each passing report. Let

974
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: me ask you, I was gonna ask you something now

975
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: It slipped my mind before we get to Harbord. Just oh,

976
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: let me let me ask you this, because this is

977
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: the other part to me, like just the competitiveness whatever

978
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and it could be totally you know,

979
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: I could be proven wrong here over the next couple weeks, right,

980
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: Michigan still got Penn State, Ohio State. They could prove

981
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: us all wrong. Obviously, Stallions is suspended. I bring it

982
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: up because to me, it has this this scandal has

983
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: essentially changed everything I thought I knew about Michigan. I

984
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: loved the story of overcoming OHI and Ryan Day and

985
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: they finally get to get off the schneid and they

986
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: get they win two Big Ten championships, and they've taken

987
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: control of this conference. And oh, by the way, they

988
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: were my pick to win the championship in the preseason,

989
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: and I started saying two three weeks before everybody else

990
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: that I thought they were the best team in the country,

991
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: when everyone was still talking about Georgia.

992
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: Or this team or that team.

993
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: This has made me question everything, like, like, you know,

994
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel as like maybe they were the better

995
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: team against Ohio State, but but I do question it.

996
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: And then if they work the better team against Ohio State,

997
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: that they don't win the Big Ten, they don't go

998
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: to the playoff. It's just maybe again, they're gonna have

999
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: time to prove, at least in twenty twenty three that

1000
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: they're just a better team. And it has nothing to

1001
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: do with stealing signs. But it has made me completely

1002
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: reevaluate everything that I thought, from you know, them taking

1003
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: control of this league, to being the better program than

1004
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: having surpassed Ohio State, to being the best team in

1005
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: the country this year, to being the favorite to win

1006
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: the national championship. It has just made me reevaluate everything

1007
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: because of this scandal. Do you feel the same way

1008
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: or are you not there yet?

1009
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm there yet. Like I don't

1010
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: feel this. I don't feel exactly the same way here

1011
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: as I did, for instance, about the Astros. Right Like,

1012
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: you look at another science stealing situation, and of course

1013
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: the Astros are never going to live that down despite

1014
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: the fact they've won, you know, another World Series with

1015
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: most of those guys nowhere near the team and some

1016
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: of them even banned from the sportils. So I don't

1017
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: look at it quite that way. But the tide of

1018
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: this is increasing, not decreasing, which is what you said,

1019
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: and is the way I let off with with my

1020
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: comments as well, is it seems to be getting worse

1021
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: for Michigan, not better. It seems to look worse for Michigan,

1022
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: not better. And it does no question, it does call

1023
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: into some state of disarray what we've seen from Michigan

1024
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, where they really have

1025
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: taken a serious rise. How much of that came from

1026
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: an advantage that, even though some will tell you it's

1027
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: a minimal I think there's stories out there about how

1028
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: the NCAA considered a few years ago getting rid of

1029
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: that rule, getting rid of this scouting rule in general,

1030
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: because they thought it provided just a minimal competitive advantage.

1031
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: But guess what, they didn't get rid of the rule

1032
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: for some reason. They kept the rule in place. And

1033
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: if it's a minimal competitive advantage, that's if everybody is

1034
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: doing it right, So it's kind of balancing itself out.

1035
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: If everybody is following a rule that's still a rule,

1036
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: but you're breaking it, you're going to get some degree

1037
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: of an advantage. If everybody is following the speed limit,

1038
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: everybody around you is and it's a race. But everybody's

1039
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: told you can't go faster than fifty five, and you

1040
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: go seventy, you're still going to win that race because

1041
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: there's no balance in it. If everybody is doing it, yes,

1042
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: that might minimize the advantage. That's where my problem is

1043
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: is if Michigan is, you know, uniquely doing this, If

1044
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Connor was uniquely doing this and no one else in

1045
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: the country was doing it, Even if you thought it

1046
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: was a minimal advantage, it's still an advantage, and it's

1047
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: one no one else but Michigan possessed. And that does

1048
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: bring that whole asterisk into it, like, all right, well,

1049
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: what happens if Michigan doesn't do this? How much of

1050
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: an advantage? How many of these games, how many of

1051
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: these circumstances, how many of these tight windows, and how

1052
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: many of these plays, how many of these things went

1053
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: their way because they did have an advantage.

1054
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: Well, and that's that's where I think, you know, if

1055
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: there's any sort of silver lining for this season, it

1056
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: is that, you know, we look, we saw that the

1057
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: NCAA is on campus this week. But for people who

1058
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: don't know how an NCAA investigation works, they have to

1059
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: do their investigation, they have to do a report, and

1060
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: then you have as a school ninety days to respond

1061
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: to the report. So even if they somehow got through

1062
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: the report like in a week, which never happens, nothing,

1063
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: you know, Michigan doesn't even have to respond until after

1064
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: the season. So in theory, like, okay, you have your

1065
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: moment in time, if you really aren't cheating, and if

1066
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: if this really has nothing to do with you stealing

1067
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: signs and having success because of that, we'll go out

1068
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: improve it. You play at Penn State, I think three week,

1069
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: three saturdays from now, and you got Ohio State to

1070
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: end the regular season. If you are that team, if

1071
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: you are as good as you have proclaimed to be,

1072
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: if you want to prove to everybody that this was

1073
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: no big deal, that yeah we were doing it, but

1074
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: X y Z will go out and prove it. You

1075
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: still have time, and so I think that's a little

1076
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: bit of a silver lining if there is one, right,

1077
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: I mean, if they beat Penn State, if they beat

1078
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State, if they go if they win the Big Ten,

1079
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 2: go to the College Football Playoff, then there then there

1080
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: is you know, there's really no debating their their their merit.

1081
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: This season but I will say for me, it has

1082
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: changed a lot of things, because again it just Stallions

1083
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 2: gets hired and then they they all of a sudden

1084
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: take off and whatever really quickly. You mentioned Harbon. I

1085
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: do think this is an interesting element of this is

1086
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: for years we've talked about the flirtation with the NFL.

1087
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: The last two offs since he's flirted with the NFL.

1088
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: He had the investigation in the summertime, which was about

1089
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: the recruiting violations and the cheeseburgers, and we all know

1090
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: about that. I will say, I don't know if this

1091
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: is the thing that like quote unquote pushes him out,

1092
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: but I do think it's one more thing where you know,

1093
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: if you're a head coach, you know you're breaking a

1094
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: rule that you know one. He's obviously gonna claim that

1095
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: he has claimed that he had no idea this was

1096
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: going on, but he broke you know, a staffer of

1097
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: his broke a rule. He could be punished for it.

1098
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what the market will look

1099
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: like for him in the NFL, but I would assume

1100
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: that somebody that has a job opening would want him.

1101
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: I already thought this year, you know, this was a

1102
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: veteran team. This was probably gonna be his best shot.

1103
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: I assumed this was probably his last year, or that

1104
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: he would give the NFL a serious look after this season.

1105
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: This only confirms that. To me, Jason, this feels like, okay,

1106
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, it just feels like maybe we're two in

1107
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: the moment right now, because it obviously is all fresh.

1108
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: They have not played since all this happened. But this

1109
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: feels like, Okay, this might be his moment in time

1110
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: where he says, Okay, I've done enough of this, It's

1111
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: time for me to go do something else in the NFL.

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00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think you're probably right, and I

1113
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: think that he still has been looking at the NFL

1114
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: the entire time. We're getting to the point where he's

1115
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: going to need to make that move before anything more

1116
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: gets tarnished along the way. This still looks like a

1117
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: Michigan team that can win at all, no question about that,

1118
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: and they're still in the position to do just that.

1119
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think. And this is the other side of

1120
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: this issue, and maybe it's something we can get into

1121
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: in a future future show or future segment. Is I

1122
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the punishment is here, because there's not

1123
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: a specific punishment for this infraction. And I don't know

1124
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: that this isn't just kind of a wrist slap kind

1125
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: of moment or a point the finger and say no, no, no, no,

1126
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: don't do that again. But I don't know that it

1127
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: is some massive scholarship loss or something like that. Michigan probably,

1128
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: if Michigan's smart, and they are, they probably get in

1129
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: front of it and try to do some kind of

1130
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: self imposed deal similar to what Tennessee did, similar to

1131
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: some other universities in the past handful of years that

1132
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: have tried to self report even after the fact, to

1133
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: try and get some of the sanctions taken away before

1134
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: they come. And the NCAA having no teeth right now

1135
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: as well, I just don't know where the authority is

1136
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: and what the punishment ends up being. I think it's

1137
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: probably likely that Michigan's not going to get penalized very

1138
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: much for this.

1139
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And that that is an interesting caveat because

1140
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: that is the question of what happens to Harbor, what

1141
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: happens to this, what happens to that, And there is

1142
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: essentially no, you know, no precedent for this, and there's

1143
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: no understanding of how big of a deal. The NCAA

1144
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 2: used this, and then you know one like I said,

1145
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: is that you know it's going to be months before

1146
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: this can even under the rules, get resolved, and it

1147
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: probably won't even be resolved that quickly. But it is

1148
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: a fascinating deal and we will see what happens next.

1149
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,759
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1164
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Speaker 2: match Jason. One quick question we got from Sharon who

1165
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 2: tweeted in to say Harbaugh didn't know about the assistant

1166
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: coaches sign stealing does and past the smell test? When

1167
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: did he demand to know why his coaches weren't at

1168
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: their games? Well, the one thing I would say is

1169
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: that Stallions was at the games and he basically deployed

1170
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: a group of people. ESPN put out a report yesterday

1171
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: that he was hiring buddies of his former you know, players, whatever.

1172
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: But what I would also say is if you read

1173
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: that Washington Post reporter or at least a synopsis of it,

1174
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: you know the budget this year for travel was like

1175
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars, So you know, if you know it,

1176
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: like there was a moment in time where I thought

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: you could make the case this guy went rogue and

1178
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: maybe nobody really knew. But when we know that there's

1179
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars, I mean the guy was making fifty five.

1180
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: Kay.

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00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the key, that's the key. The second part

1182
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: is the key part, like that you cannot rationally believe

1183
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: that he was spending his own money to do this

1184
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: outside the confines of any of the other coaches or

1185
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: anything that was going on larger in the program, because

1186
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: he would have been spending, you know, more than twenty

1187
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: five percent of his salary to do something that then

1188
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the coaches weren't going to know about after the fact.

1189
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: Like there's some Michigan people that I saw, I don't

1190
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: mean Michigan people inside the university built like big time

1191
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: fans that were suggesting, you know, there's no evidence he

1192
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: talked to the coaches, So you're telling me he spent

1193
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: fifteen grand of his own money to do this, hired

1194
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: this whole web of spies so that he could then

1195
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: not tell the coaches anything that was going on and

1196
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: or use that for any kind of advantage. That doesn't

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: make any sense at all. Like you have to be

1198
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: so homer at that point as to be ridiculous. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to compare weird apples to weird oranges here,

1200
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: but when I you know, it almost reminds me of

1201
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: the Rick Patino stripper scandal Louisville, where you know the

1202
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: guy that that you know, basically took the fall for

1203
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: it was he was making like even less than fifty five.

1204
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: I think he was making like at the time, you know,

1205
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: this was seven eight years ago, he was making like

1206
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: thirty six k. And they you know that literally the

1207
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 2: strippers were walking out with with five thousand dollars cash.

1208
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: It's like, there's no way he was the only one

1209
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: that new. So that that is kind of the update

1210
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: there is that you know, Stallions himself was at the game,

1211
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: uh or was at all the games. But the idea

1212
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: that that he was using, as you said, Jason, a

1213
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: quarter of his salary to fund this without anybody knowing.

1214
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: And I mean we're talking about you know again, seven

1215
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: eight Georgia, seven eight Ohio State Games, seven eight Georgia Games.

1216
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: It just feels very, very very unlikely. And we'll get

1217
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: some resolution, you know, we'll get some some details on

1218
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: this as the week goes on. Jason really quickly, do

1219
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: want to switch gears to the NFL. You know, A

1220
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: couple of things stand out from from the past the

1221
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: past week, and there's been some you know, some things

1222
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: that have happened over the last couple hours that are

1223
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: worth noting. I think the most notable thing that has

1224
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: happened in the last couple hours is that rock Perty

1225
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: was officially cleared from concussion protocol. He will play tomorrow.

1226
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: I just want to talk to you about him and

1227
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers really quick, chase, and because I

1228
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: find the whole narrative around him very to be very interesting.

1229
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: Obviously one, you know, big game tomorrow against the Cincinnati Bengals.

1230
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: But I bring it up because it's been interesting. Obviously

1231
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: again he gets, you know, dinged up at the end

1232
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: of the Minnesota game on Monday night. But it's it's

1233
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: just been fascinating for me to watch over the last

1234
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: couple of days, where you know, on the way he

1235
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: came into two Sundays ago, three Sundays ago undefeated, having

1236
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: never lost a game.

1237
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: We all know the narrative. Lose to the Browns on

1238
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: a last.

1239
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 2: Second missfield goal, lose to the Vikings in a game

1240
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: where his defense gave up four hundred and fifty two yards.

1241
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Yet all I've heard since that Minuisa game and even

1242
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: since the Cleveland game, well, I mean, well, I told you,

1243
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: I told you that brock party wasn't very good. I mean,

1244
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 2: am I missing something Like I'm not saying that he's

1245
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: been Patrick Mahomes in these games. But I just bring

1246
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: it up because did people think he was gonna go undefeated?

1247
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Throughout the totality, It's just been a weird narrative around him,

1248
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: and I have been surprised by the number of people

1249
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: that seem to get a joy out of seeing him.

1250
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: You know, if you want to call him fail, I

1251
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: mean the team's failing. But if you want to say

1252
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: he's failing too, so be it. I'm going long, Jason.

1253
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: The floor is yours. The benefit of the doubt is

1254
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: never going to go to brock party because of where

1255
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: he was drafted. He can't have a bad game eron

1256
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: because if he has a bad game, well, this is

1257
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: why he was drafted last It's the immediate laziest take

1258
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: on earth. This is a guy who all right, they've

1259
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: had a couple of subpar performances. I mean, did you

1260
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: see how the Bengals started this season? Did you see

1261
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: how Baltimore played last year? A large part of this season? Two?

1262
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: Exactly right, But the difference is Trevor Lawrence has taking

1263
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: number one overall. The difference was I mean, there are

1264
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: people who make a good bit of money in this

1265
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: industry that suggested Sam Donald would be a better option

1266
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers to win games right now.

1267
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: And that's based on what other than where he was

1268
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: drafted and how he played in college.

1269
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: And let me jump in really quick. Sam Donald got

1270
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: all the first team reps this week and the second

1271
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: that Brock Party was clear for Kakashi protocol, guess who

1272
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan said was the starting quarterback?

1273
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: So continue, Yeah, I mean that's an excellent point, Like

1274
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: you think Kyle Shanahan's not going to put the one

1275
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: that gives him the best chance to win in the

1276
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: games that he's not going to give the one that

1277
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: runs the offense to the best of ability. I mean,

1278
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of mitigating factors going on here,

1279
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: but the forty nine ers weren't going undefeated like that.

1280
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: That wasn't a thing. Even if they are the best

1281
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: team in the league, they weren't going to go undefeated.

1282
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: This leagu's very very hard. It's very hard to win

1283
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: week after week ind this league, especially when you lose

1284
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and you have Christian McCaffrey questionable until less

1285
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: than forty eight hours before game time, and so you're

1286
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of watching him with a close eye it's difficult,

1287
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: Brock Party. I just think it's amazing how fast so

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: many were just like, well, he was drafted last this

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: is what this is. It's like, shut that up. How

1290
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: many times are you the same people telling me how

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01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: draft position can be completely irrelevant because of Tom Brady.

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting brock Party is Tom Brady. I'm suggesting

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: that the Tom Brady argument should make you hesitate to

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01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: bury brock Party just because he was mister irrelevant in

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: the draft. And the more that this happens, the more

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01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: I want to see him shut everybody's mouth and be

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: the guy like there's no reason to be burying him

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: right now or acting like he can't play all of

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01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: a sudden. I'm very, very concerned about this forty nine

1300
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: ers team. They could win right now, but I mean,

1301
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: look at who their quarterback is. Shut up like there,

1302
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I'm not saying Brock Perdy

1303
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: is the greatest football player I've ever seen. I am

1304
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: saying that what he was prior to the two games

1305
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: that we've just seen where they've had tough losses, he's

1306
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: still exactly what I thought he was then. He's still

1307
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: got the potential to do a lot of special things.

1308
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: Great athletes lose, Great athletes have bad days. Guys that

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: can be leaders have bad days. I just think that

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: this is this is such a lazy and easy take,

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01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's frustrating.

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01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I just I feel the same way.

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01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: You know the guy listen, he's exceeded expectations. But to

1314
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: exceed expectations that inherently means that you're devaluing him.

1315
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 3: Because he was a seventh round pick.

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: And I just bring it up because I just look

1317
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: at him as a really good, above average NFL quarterback.

1318
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: He has limitations. We get it.

1319
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: He has a great coach and a great defense nor

1320
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: normally we get it, and he is very lucky to

1321
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: have those things.

1322
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: But he's also got to deliver.

1323
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 2: And he has also got to step up and and

1324
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: do what he does when he actually steps on the field.

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: And that is what he has largely done. And we

1326
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time.

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 2: Is that this is like like and I remember talking

1328
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: to you about this when the Trey Lance trade happened,

1329
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: is that it like this sounds weird, right, but it

1330
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: is a skill set to kind of get out of

1331
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: the way and and and you know, make sure that

1332
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey gets the ball in a position to have success,

1333
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel gets the ball in a position to have success,

1334
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, George Kittle, on and on. And that sounds dumb,

1335
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: But if it was that easy, then Trey Lance would

1336
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: be your starting quarterback right now.

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01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: It's that simple.

1338
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: He could like like like, I don't even know how

1339
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: to fully articulate what I'm trying to say, but but

1340
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: there is a this is gonna sound weird, but this

1341
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: is there is a complexity to sometimes the simplicity of

1342
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: what they're asking him to do. They're not asking him

1343
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: to be great, but he gets the ball where it

1344
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: needs to go on time, not every time, but at

1345
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: a very high level.

1346
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: And so I've been impressed by him. I enjoy the story.

1347
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: I just enjoy him now as a you know, somewhere

1348
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: probably between the eighth and thirteenth best quarterback in the league.

1349
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: He's not Patrick Mahomes. That's fine, but he's not you know, whoever,

1350
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: pick whoever you don't like right now. You know Daniel Jones,

1351
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: and I know Daniel Jones is hurt, so I'm not

1352
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: picking on him, but you know, he's not Daniel Jones.

1353
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: He's not Zach Wilson like. He is a very good quarterback.

1354
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: And I've just been so so like like just felt

1355
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: like there were people that were waiting for him to fail.

1356
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question they've they've been sitting here. Just

1357
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: as soon as he loses a game, they're going to

1358
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: fire out a seven hundred word article to talk about

1359
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: I told you so, And it's just foolish.

1360
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was an interesting week to really interesting

1361
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: two weeks, but interesting two weeks.

1362
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: As you know, four nine ers fall.

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: Obviously they have a chance to bounce back tomorrow they

1364
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: will or Sunday. You know, it's Sunday in a lot

1365
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: of places right now, but they have a chance to

1366
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: bounce back against Cincinnati. Tell you what, Jason will come back.

1367
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: We'll talk some other NFL trade deadline is coming up.

1368
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: There was an interesting story about that earlier today. We'll

1369
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: get to that next before we do the let's toss

1370
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: it over the news desk, Kevin Wire, what is trending,

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Speaker 2: my friend?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1373
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 5: The World Series was on tonight, Game two between the

1374
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 5: Diamondbacks and the Rangers. This series now tied at one

1375
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 5: game apiece after Arizona had a decisive victory against the

1376
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 5: Rangers nine to one. The offense just clicking for Arizona.

1377
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 5: Tobby Fan four for four, Lord Escuriau went two for three,

1378
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: Evan Longoria had an RBI based knock. We also saw

1379
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 5: Gabe Marino hit a home run. So the Arizona doph

1380
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 5: averas one a Diamondbacks offense really clicking as a face

1381
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 5: a Pitvil game three Monday evening in Phoenix.

1382
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 6: That's for college football.

1383
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 5: Only one ranked team in action right now, Number eleven

1384
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: Oregon State on the r rode in Tucson facing Arizona,

1385
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 5: and right now it's the Wildcats in front by three,

1386
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 5: thirteen to ten. They've got six forty nine to go

1387
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 5: in the third quarter. Everything else in college football has

1388
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 5: gone final. The episode of the day in Lawrence, Kansas,

1389
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 5: the Jayhawks taking down the number six Sooners thirty eight

1390
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 5: to thirty three, Oklahoma suffering their first loss of the season,

1391
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 5: and the student section rushing the field, tearing down the

1392
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 5: goal posts and much like the Tennessee fans did last

1393
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 5: year when they beat Alabama, they took the goal post

1394
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 5: and threw it in the nearest body of water they

1395
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: could find. Number ten Penn State in the big New

1396
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 5: kickoff game, beats Indiana thirty three to twenty four. At

1397
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 5: the world's largest outdoor cocktail party, the Georgia Bulldogs saying

1398
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: let's have another round as they demolished the Florida Gators

1399
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: forty three to twenty. Number seven Texas they blow out

1400
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 5: win over BYU thirty five to six. Big game in

1401
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 5: the Pac twelve that proved to be a snooze fest.

1402
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 5: Number eight Oregon at thirty five to six win over

1403
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 5: number thirteen UTAP Number fourteen Notre Dame may blow out

1404
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,839
Speaker 5: win over Pittsburgh fifty eight to seven. Eighteenth Thrand Louisville

1405
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 5: shuts out Duke twenty three to nothing, Number twenty two

1406
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 5: to two, Lane holds off Rice thirty to twenty eight.

1407
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 5: And in the game between USC and California, game that

1408
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 5: maybe the Trojans would use to get back on track

1409
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 5: after suffering two tough losses in a row, but the

1410
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 5: cal Golden Bears really played him tough, back and forth

1411
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 5: game and USC only won it because when California scored

1412
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 5: a touchdown with fifty eight seconds to go to get

1413
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 5: him within one, instead of kicking the extra point to

1414
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 5: tie they went for two instead, but the Trojans held

1415
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 5: firm on that attempt to win it by one point

1416
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 5: fifty to forty nine. Number five Washington holding off Stanford

1417
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: forty two to thirty three. The Cardinal got it to

1418
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 5: within two on three separate occasions before the Husky is

1419
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 5: able to get a touchdown and hold off Stanford of

1420
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 5: forty two to thirty three. Number nineteen Air Force over

1421
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 5: Colorado State thirty to thirteen. And it's a heated rivalry

1422
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 5: game between in state teams. And we've seen penalties get

1423
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 5: called on players in games, but I don't think I've

1424
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: ever seen a penalty get called on a eight teams

1425
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 5: fans in a stadium, and that's exactly what happened in

1426
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 5: this game. Colorado State penalized by the officials because their

1427
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 5: fans were throwing snowballs at Air Force players. Number twenty

1428
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 5: one Tennessee thirty three twenty seven winners over Kentucky. Third

1429
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 5: ranked Ohio State pulls away from Wisconsin twenty four to ten.

1430
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 5: Number twelve on miss a thirty three seven winner over

1431
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 5: Vanderbilt and at the Rose Bowl. Number twenty three UCLA

1432
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 5: turning away coach Prime in Colorado twenty eight to sixteen,

1433
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech upsets number seventeen, North Carolina forty six to

1434
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 5: forty two, and number twenty five. James Madison Edges Old

1435
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 5: Dominion thirty to twenty seven. Back to you guys, Thank

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 5: you very much.

1437
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: Kevin Wired, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er, Torus.

1438
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire Reck dot Com Studios. Jason,

1439
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: I thought this was a pseudo interesting report. I mean,

1440
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: it's not totally shocking, but NFL trade deadline is coming

1441
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: up here over the next couple days. And why I

1442
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: bring it up is that there there's been all sorts

1443
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: of you know, conversation, excuse me, conversation over the last

1444
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: couple of days, and you know, some of it are

1445
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: centers around Derrick Henry, you know, in your neck of

1446
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 2: the woods in Nashville with the Tennessee Titans. But also

1447
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter put out a report right before we came

1448
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: on air that the Washington Commanders their entire you know,

1449
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: decision on whether they're I don't want to call them buyers,

1450
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: but whether they're sellers or not at the trade deadline

1451
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: could essentially come down to whether or not they win

1452
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Philadelphia Eagles. They're obviously about a touchdown

1453
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 2: underdog against Philadelphia, but they're currently sitting.

1454
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: At three and four overall.

1455
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: You know that obviously a loss would drop them to

1456
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: three and five. They have not won a game in

1457
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: the division yet, obviously oh and two. Coming into tomorrow

1458
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: they would be oh and three. They obviously just lost

1459
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: to the Giants, you know, last week. So long story short,

1460
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily have to be about the Washington Commanders,

1461
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: But does anything stand out to you at this trade deadline?

1462
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 3: Because it does.

1463
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: It feels like we could see some movement. You know, again,

1464
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: I mentioned Derrick Henry. Obviously these guys with Washington, anything

1465
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 2: stand out going into the deadline.

1466
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean the Henry thing, I think is as simple

1467
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: as this. It's still just more devaluing of the running

1468
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: back position across the league in terms of how it

1469
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: is viewed. I mean, we know what Derrick Henry is,

1470
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: but Derrick Henry's you know, thirty, He's on his third deal.

1471
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: He's had a lot of carries, more so than most

1472
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: any back in the league because he's been such a

1473
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: focus of the offense for the Tennessee Titans for a

1474
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: long time and continues to be and so I think

1475
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: that they probably value him. The Titans organization, ran cart

1476
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: then and variebel and everybody value him more than other

1477
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: teams that you had the report coming out that the

1478
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys basically said, no, we never even called, we never

1479
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: even called about Derrick Henry, which seems unthinkable except that

1480
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: the Titans probably asking for something they're not going to

1481
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: get for Derrick Henry, and that's why they're saying, hey,

1482
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, we have no plans to move you, which,

1483
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: of course does You've opened the possibility that somebody's gonna

1484
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: throw some crazy offer at them and that he still

1485
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: gets moved. But it would seem to indicate that the

1486
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: market is not robust in terms of what's coming back

1487
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: to the Titans, and so he sticks around. When it

1488
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: comes to the commanders. I think we've discussed this a

1489
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: couple of times. Sam how is not your future because

1490
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: Sam Howe is too careless with the football. He turns

1491
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: it over too much. He does some good things, and

1492
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: then he does some things to make you pull your

1493
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: hair out. But it feels like a lame duck administration

1494
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: at the top, and I mean from the in the

1495
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: head coaching role. I think maybe the enemy is the future,

1496
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: but Ron Rivera is not. Ron Rivera was there to

1497
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: write the ship. He was there to be the adult

1498
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: in the room, to be the mature one, all of

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and he's done that. They're not

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: an embarrassment anymore. There are franchised that you know, has

1501
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: new ownership and finally looks like they're getting out of

1502
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: the cellar, which means at this stage you make the

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: next step, and that is thank you, Ron. You know

1504
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: you gave us the first step. Now we're going in

1505
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: a different direction. So I don't think they're gonna beat

1506
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles, first of all. And I could easily see

1507
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: them getting rid of some guys because certainly some of

1508
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: their draft picks have not panned out. Chase Young's name

1509
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: keeps getting mentioned. He's been hurt a lot. I think

1510
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: a lot of Washington fans are ready to move on

1511
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: from him because they used a number two overall pick

1512
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: on him as opposed to a quarterback.

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: Be interesting trade deadline coming up here in a couple

1514
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 2: of days, And yeah, I think it's interesting that this

1515
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: report gets out. I think it's pretty clear that they

1516
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: probably should move on because as you said, the quarterback

1517
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: they have is in the future, the coach they have

1518
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: is in the future, and obviously you know Chase Young

1519
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: extension is coming up here in a little bit. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Erit Torris Jason Martin coming up. There was

1521
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: another interesting piece of news that came out this week

1522
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: that's probably worth a mention. A coach was under fire,

1523
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: but is he anymore? That's next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the big games this week, I don't know if it's big,

1531
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: but one of the games we'll be talking about in

1532
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: hour three when we do our preview is Miami and

1533
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: New England. New England Patriots coming off a nice win

1534
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: over the Buffalo Bills twenty nine to twenty five last week.

1535
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: Mac Jones looked pretty good. Why I bring it up Jason.

1536
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that everybody in the media,

1537
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: including us, literally last weekend, the day before this, the

1538
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: win over Buffalo, Everyone's kind of talking about the future

1539
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. Well, what's gonna happen? Could they force him out,

1540
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: would he retire, would he be too stubborn? All that

1541
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 2: good stuff. Just a few days after all those narratives

1542
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: kind of got going. I thought it was very, very

1543
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: interesting this week that the report came out that the

1544
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: New England Patriots had actually quietly given Bill Belichick an

1545
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: extension in the summer. Saw Julian Edelman on our airwaves

1546
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Radio as well as FS one. He

1547
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: was on with Colin Cowherd yesterday, said basically, that was

1548
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: something that was never discussed publicly when I was in

1549
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: New England. I think, you know, I'm loosely quoting Julian Edelman,

1550
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: but he basically said, the only people in the building

1551
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: that had any idea what Bill's contract looked like were Bill,

1552
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan Craft, and Bob Kraft. And so maybe it totally

1553
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: means nothing, Jason, but I thought the idea that that

1554
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 2: story got out right, you know, and you've been doing

1555
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: this a long time, like I have, Nothing gets out,

1556
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: especially in a place like New England, unless somebody wants

1557
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, and it felt like somebody wanted this out.

1558
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: So do you think it was the Belichick camp or

1559
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: do you think it like, like, do you think it

1560
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: was the Belichick camp just basically saying, oh, you guys

1561
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: want to push me out?

1562
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: Think again?

1563
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: Or do you think it was maybe the Patriots side

1564
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: of things for you know, any you know, to kind

1565
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: of uh you know, uh, you know, call many locker

1566
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: room confusion, like like, how do you how and why

1567
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: do you think that story got out?

1568
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if all of them wanted it

1569
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: out this time around, just so that people would stop.

1570
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing TV and radio segments about the future of

1571
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and how he was going to be out

1572
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: after this year. It feels, I mean, I think that

1573
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: it's at least plausible that this was to just end

1574
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: that It's like, okay, can we just go watch Patriots

1575
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 1: to play football again and not talk about Bill. We

1576
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: got the guy on the extension, he's not leaving, Like

1577
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: it just seems like, let's end this. Let's end whatever's

1578
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: happened on Wei and Boston. Let's end the speculation of

1579
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: Boston Globe. Let's for the first time, because now this

1580
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: is the first time that there has been, you know,

1581
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: some degree of weakness in Belichick in terms of his

1582
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: job security and how he's perceived by a lot of

1583
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: NFL fans in his present iteration. It just it feels

1584
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: very likely that either Belichick and or the Patriots their

1585
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: sides just want to end this. Even if he's not

1586
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: listening to a lot of the noise. I'm sure his

1587
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: camp and everybody else would just assume we get back

1588
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: to talking about the Patriots. Let's talk about the future

1589
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: of the Patriots organization and what Bill's going to do

1590
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: in the future, and whether Max's going to be the

1591
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: quarterback for him going forward, But no longer start talking

1592
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: about how Bill's on his way out this year unless

1593
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: he chooses to do it. That's how it felt to

1594
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: me when I saw that he had quietly signed the extension.

1595
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, they put this out here to

1596
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: shut people up. They put this out here to stop

1597
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: some of these talking segments that we've all been guilty

1598
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: of doing. And I don't say guilty in terms of

1599
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: us doing anything wrong. We're doing we're observing and analyzing

1600
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. They're trying to take this out of

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01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: the newspapers. They're trying to take this out of the

1602
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: news cycle and get back to football. My initial feeling

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01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: at least.

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: No, I actually think that that's probably it as well.

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: I saw again, you know Julian Edelman, who you know

1606
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: he does? You know Fox? You know, one of the

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: Sunday shows on Fox. But for people who don't hear him,

1608
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,919
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty much every Friday, every football Friday

1609
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 2: at eleven Pacific, two eastern. He joins Colin for an

1610
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: extended segment and it is always good football talk. And

1611
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: I think his thought process as a former player was maybe,

1612
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: you know, you never want to say Bill Belichick the

1613
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: greatest to ever do it is gonna is going to

1614
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: lose the locker room. But you know, you might have

1615
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: some guys that are sitting you know that sit there

1616
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: that do listen to the to the narratives, do listen

1617
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: to the conversation, do see what's on social media, what's whatever,

1618
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 2: and basically says, well, you know, do I really have

1619
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: to listen to this guy? He's going to be out

1620
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 2: after this year anyway, So whether it's from the the

1621
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: media's side of things, of us having something to talk about,

1622
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: or whether it's from the player perspective of just listening

1623
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 2: to guys and girls in the media. I think there's

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: something to it. Again, we're gonna preview the Miami game.

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Speaker 3: Do you think did anything change for you with this team?

1626
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: Or was this just was it was last Sunday just

1627
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 2: one of those any given Sundays stuff happens. Buffalo's obviously

1628
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: already bounced back with a nice one on Thursday night.

1629
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: Did you make anything bigger out of the bounce back

1630
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 2: and picking up the second win of the year against Buffalo?

1631
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:21,839
Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: as far as top twenty five teams are concerned, Arizona

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01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: hosting Oregon State thirteen minutes left the eleventh ranked Oregon

1640
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: State Beavers. How about Oregon State up to number eleven

1641
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: in the country as we don't even know what the

1642
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: heck their future is. They are up seventeen to thirteen

1643
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: on the Arizona Wildcats thirteen minutes left.

1644
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Speaker 3: We will keep you updated.

1645
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: There, Jason gotta say, you know, and I don't know

1646
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 2: that it's totally surprising when you looked at the schedule

1647
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: today for college football, but definitely a little bit of

1648
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: a quiet day. Oklahoma was the big loser. But you

1649
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: know the old cliche. We know what the old cliche

1650
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: is in college sports, the college football the saturdays where

1651
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: the slate doesn't quote unquote look incredible, that's usually the

1652
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 2: days where crazy stuff happens. Well, Georgia dominated Florida number

1653
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: one in the country, Michigan was off at number two.

1654
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: Ohio State wins going away, Florida State dominates. Washington had

1655
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 2: got interesting there for a little while, but for the

1656
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: most part, Oregon, by the way, really looked excellent for

1657
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: the most part. On a Saturday where it felt like

1658
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 2: maybe there's gonna be some chaos somewhere, it was really

1659
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: largely a pretty pretty straightforward in college football.

1660
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, it was. I mean, you got the Oklahoma

1661
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma situation was certainly a takeaway. And then just

1662
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: on a second tier storyline, Clemson back to back losses

1663
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty eleven, and just kind

1664
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: of the continuing We're just seeing the continuing fall of

1665
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: whatever that was going to be. It just looks like

1666
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: it's over in so many different ways. But yeah, there

1667
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: were a lot of near misses for the top flight programs,

1668
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: the ones that you anticipated in winning. There were a

1669
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: few that really could have lost ball games have found

1670
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: a way in the end to come out victorious. And

1671
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: sometimes that can be the hardest thing for a favorite

1672
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: to do or a better team to do, is find

1673
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: a way when things seem to not be going your way.

1674
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't you didn't get the massive shake

1675
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: up except that a good Kansas team was able to

1676
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: outlast an Oklahoma team that really had had proven quite

1677
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: a bit, especially from what they were last year to

1678
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 1: what they had been this year and how Dylan Gabriel

1679
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: was playing. That's certainly the big takeaway. And then outside

1680
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: of that, it's just how many of these bear wins that,

1681
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: like at USC or Washington, one of those teams had

1682
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: has you questioning, you know, the inevitable fall of them

1683
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: this year, like how seriously do you take them? And

1684
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: then the one thing we have not mentioned at all

1685
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: on this show, Georgia, well we mentioned it just barely

1686
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: in passing Georgia destroyed Florida. They didn't have brock Bowers

1687
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: and it didn't matter. They looked the part today. Florida

1688
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: didn't look like they belonged on the same field with them.

1689
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: The final score it wasn't even indicative of how much

1690
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: of a beat down that was for Georgia. And I

1691
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: feel like this was a day where it's like, oh, yeah,

1692
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: george is still really good. That that's that narrative, at

1693
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: least for one week, is gonna be quelled.

1694
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you know, this was the week that

1695
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: Georgia or that excuse me, that that Michigan surpassed Georgia

1696
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: as the betting favorite in Vegas. Now, I will admit

1697
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 2: that that news you know, piece of information came out

1698
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: on Monday that was largely before all of the news

1699
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: cycle with with Michigan, with the allegations of you know,

1700
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: buying tickets to all these games and all these whatever.

1701
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: I bring it up because it does feel like a

1702
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: wide open year Oregon has looked good. Florida State has

1703
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: look good obviously. Those two teams I've mentioned Oklahoma, Texas

1704
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: will have something to say about it. Maybe even Washington

1705
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: School like that. You know, we do it every day

1706
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: every week around this time. I mean, who, who do

1707
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: you do you think there's the best team? Do you

1708
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: think it's Georgia. Who do you think it is right now?

1709
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I still have got Georgia there, just because

1710
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: they haven't lost in such a long time. Eventually you're

1711
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: going to have to beat them to be better than them,

1712
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen anybody do that yet, and I

1713
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 1: think that's kind of the hesitation there. I think Georgia,

1714
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: I think Florida State, I think Michigan right now are

1715
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: the three teams that I look at and I feel

1716
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: the best about at present now. Florida State escaped Clemson

1717
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: and there have been moments for them, no question, and

1718
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Georgia hasn't looked impressive at all times. Michigan's been the

1719
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: most dominant, but they played absolutely no one. Ohio State,

1720
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: who you know right now is sitting where they're sitting.

1721
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not really I wasn't that impressed with what they

1722
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: did again against Wisconsin, but they won the game, but

1723
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: they're not a team that I see as high as

1724
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: the three that I mentioned. So I think that you

1725
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: could argue me Georgia, Michigan or Florida State and I

1726
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: would at least entertain the discussion.

1727
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, excuse me, excuse me, try

1728
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: to grab the cough button but it was too late there. No,

1729
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting because I mean, we do this

1730
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: segment kind of every Sunday morning Saturday night, depending on

1731
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 2: where you are, and my answer of who's the best

1732
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: team every week has been I think it's Michigan, And

1733
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: I know I said it when we talked about the

1734
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Michigan scandal scandal, and for people who missed it, please

1735
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: go back and check it out. I genuinely don't know

1736
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: what to do with them, Like, I mean, are they

1737
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: legitimately just this awesome? And does it not matter because

1738
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 2: it was Nebraska and Minnesota and whoever? Is it completely

1739
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: because they have everybody else's signs? Is that overrated? So listen?

1740
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, I know that the schedule says that, you know,

1741
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: we're not gonna learn very much about them when they

1742
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: come back off of the buy against Purdue, And it

1743
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: really won't be until two weeks from now when they

1744
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: play at Penn State.

1745
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 3: But I just don't even know what to do with them.

1746
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: Like, certainly, you know, the first college football playoff poll

1747
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: come out on Tuesday, and maybe we'll end the show

1748
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: by giving our four and they're gonna be there, and

1749
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: they should be there, and you know, I'm sure some

1750
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: people will even make the argument for the for them

1751
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: being the number one team. But I will say, like

1752
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: I did find it interesting to even just watch the

1753
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: coverage of college football this week and in a week

1754
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: where again coming into today, now obviously it's different after

1755
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Georgia's dominating win, but there were some questions about Georgia

1756
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 2: and Nobrock, Bauers, et cetera. And I found it interesting

1757
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: to kind of sit there and say, like, see, smart people,

1758
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: people that I respect, say well, I mean, Michigan's obviously

1759
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: the best team in the country right now, and it's

1760
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: like it was obvious like last Thursday, last Friday, last Saturday.

1761
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: But as stuff has come out, I just I just

1762
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: find them fascinating. They will be in the top four,

1763
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: they'll probably be number two, they will be deserving of

1764
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: that ranking. Maybe they'll be number three. I don't know

1765
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: like they'll they'll be in that top two to three.

1766
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do with them. And

1767
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: I know we're kind of just rehashing the conversation we

1768
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: had with them, but we're gonna learn a lot about

1769
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: them because they still play Ohio State, they still play

1770
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: Penn State. But I just don't know if everything that

1771
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: we thought we knew about him over the last two

1772
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: years has been totally phony and not legitimate at all.

1773
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think based on the resume alone,

1774
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: I think you could argue Georgia and Florida State have

1775
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: better cases and they don't have kind of the knock

1776
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: on them that Michigan does. Right now with sort of

1777
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the scandals going around. You got the computer crimes here,

1778
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: or you've got hardball being suspended for the first couple

1779
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: of games of this season. Of course, you have the

1780
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: sign stealing thing, which we spent a large part of

1781
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: the early part of the show discussing. So there's all

1782
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: of those things going on, and then of course you

1783
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,919
Speaker 1: do have those second tier programs that are one loss teams,

1784
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: teams that are still very very good and undefeated teams

1785
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: as well. But I just I don't know what to

1786
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: do with them either, so I'm just kind of keeping

1787
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: them where they are. Like I just I'm not convinced

1788
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: that anything massive is going to happen, and we're going

1789
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity in the middle of November to

1790
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: see whether or not Michigan is the best team in

1791
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: the country or certainly, or whether or not you can

1792
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: make that argument or not. I tend to think because

1793
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: Penn State doesn't win games like that, the one we

1794
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: find out, we'll find it out against Ohio State. They

1795
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: on paper should beat Ohio State when you look at

1796
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 1: it from a talent and just what you've seen from

1797
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: them this year. But we'll see. We'll see by the

1798
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: time they get there how that goes. I have I'm

1799
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 1: just not very impressed with Ohio State as a football

1800
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: team right now. Individual athletes, yes, no question, but I

1801
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: just don't know that we're even gonna get to the

1802
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: end of the season. Even if Michigan is undefeated, wins

1803
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and goes into the playoff, where if

1804
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: George is undefeated, I can argue that Michigan's the best

1805
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: team in the country because I don't even think they're

1806
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: going to be battle tested by the end of the

1807
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: year because their schedule for the it's just not that

1808
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: impressive from top to bottom.

1809
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: Well, and that's partly because Ohio State maybe a little

1810
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 2: bit down right again, and you know, Penn State did

1811
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: not look very good either. Really quick, you know it's

1812
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: you mentioned Clemson. We kind of did it last week.

1813
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: We were air when they lost to Miami four and four.

1814
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: And listen, they've basically regressed every year since since Trevor

1815
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Lawrence left. You know, ten wins in I think it was, yeah,

1816
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: ten wins in the twenty twenty one season, but didn't

1817
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 2: compete for an ACC title. Last year they win the ACC,

1818
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: but they end up with three losses. They're at four

1819
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: and four now.

1820
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1821
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: You know, in some ways you could say, okay, well,

1822
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: Duke was a lot better than we realized. Florida State

1823
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: could have gone either way, Miami was in overtime, whatever. Like,

1824
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: the bottom line is, they are sitting here at four

1825
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: and four right now, and this thing just seems to

1826
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: be going in the wrong way in a hurry. Now,

1827
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 2: three or four losses have been on the road, but

1828
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 2: that never used to matter when you know, Clemson was

1829
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: a they'd play whoever you know, Miami may'd be a

1830
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: seventeen point favorite and they'd win by thirty. This is

1831
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 2: one we might have mentioned it on. I think we

1832
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 2: did mention it on the show last week. Is that

1833
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: all of the stuff that everybody said about, you know, Alabama,

1834
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: the beginning of the ear of the dynasty's dead. It's over,

1835
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: it's never coming back. I really feel that way with Clemson.

1836
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: I just watched them and there's just nothing there. There's

1837
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 2: nothing special. Davis Wingey has been stubborn about the transfer portal.

1838
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: I think it's come back to haunt him. I will

1839
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 2: say in his defense, I think Kid Klubnick has been

1840
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 2: largely disappointing as a quarterback. This thing just seems like

1841
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,799
Speaker 2: it's going sideways in a hurry. And with Florida State emerging,

1842
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Duke is well coached, Louisville is well coached, as they've

1843
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 2: improved to seven and one today. By the way, Clemson

1844
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 2: is still got Clebs has got noted am next week,

1845
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 2: and after that they got noted they got North Carolina

1846
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 2: later in the year. It's just I just don't see

1847
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: this thing getting any better anytime soon. And I think

1848
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just for a program that's so dominated,

1849
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 2: certainly that conference and at times the nation.

1850
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 3: It's just jarring to see.

1851
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And it seems like it's flamed out quicker than it

1852
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been gradual kind of. I mean, maybe the last

1853
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: couple of years it hasn't felt this abrupt, but they

1854
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: last year they just didn't have an aura and this

1855
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: year they're just not very good. And it doesn't matter

1856
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. Was it DJ's problem? Maybe not.

1857
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 2: I'm watching him as the quarterback of the number eleven

1858
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: team in the country right now.

1859
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So that's interesting. It's very The Clemson

1860
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: thing is is just strange in general, but I think

1861
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to the stubbornness of

1862
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney is released to the transfer portal. It might

1863
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: sound nice, but it also sounds like antiquated thinking in

1864
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: a sport that doesn't allow it anymore. The fact that

1865
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the rules have changed and the playing field has changed

1866
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: figuratively means that you either do that or you're gonna

1867
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: have a massive disadvantage against a lot of other schools.

1868
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: And so either Dabo's planning on going to the NFL

1869
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: or he's planning on going to the House and he's

1870
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: about done here. Because college football, the way it's set

1871
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: up now and the way that Dabo wants it to

1872
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: or it's certainly the way he talks like he wants

1873
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: it to exist, those two things don't work anymore like that.

1874
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: They're not going to work together, and Clemson is not

1875
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to compete for very long against

1876
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: schools that have no problem utilizing the transfer portal, utilizing nil,

1877
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: doing all of those things. The purest that Dabo Sweeney

1878
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: wants to be is going to be a mediocre or

1879
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: a failure. It's gonna that. That's pretty much the two results.

1880
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: You're either going to be mediocre or you're gonna be

1881
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,839
Speaker 1: bad in pretty quick time, because look at what's happening

1882
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: around him in the conference. He's been caught by half

1883
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: the conference. It was Clemson and everybody else, now Florida

1884
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 1: State House, everybody else, and now look exactly, yeah, exactly,

1885
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: it's literally flipped on its head in like three years.

1886
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really bad. And you know, I'll just wrap

1887
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: by saying a couple of things. One, the transfer portal,

1888
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: it is what it is, and everybody knows the examples,

1889
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: but LSU last year, even USC we could criticize him

1890
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: this year, but last year it worked. Uh, Texas has

1891
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,799
Speaker 2: largely rebuilt through the portal, And you know, it's just funny,

1892
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 2: Like I think about it from this perspective, Like imagine

1893
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 2: if you and I hosted a college football podcast and

1894
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: we just refuse to talk about the transport. We're like, no,

1895
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 2: we don't believe in that, so we're just not gonna

1896
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: talk about it. It's like, no, we have a job

1897
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: to our audience, or we cover the NFL, but we're

1898
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: not gonna talk about free agency because I don't like

1899
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 2: free agency.

1900
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 3: It's like, no, you have a you have a responsibility.

1901
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,560
Speaker 2: We have a responsibility there to our audience, and Dabosweeney

1902
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 2: has a responsibility to his fan base, to his program,

1903
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: to his bosses that pay him over ten million dollars

1904
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 2: a year. And you know, I think that was I

1905
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: don't think the responsibility is I'm gonna do everything within

1906
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 2: the rules to allow Clemson to compete at the highest level,

1907
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 2: and he is not doing that. Fox Sports Radio Aeron

1908
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,559
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Speaker 2: is looking to potentially pull off the upset against the

1919
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: eleventh ranked Oregon State Beavers. They did return the punt

1920
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 2: inside their fifty. When we come back, though, we will

1921
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: switch gears and we will talk NFL couple big ones tomorrow,

1922
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and San Francisco, New England and Miami. Of course,

1923
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: Dallas and the Rams. We'll discuss all that next. Fox

1924
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Ertorius Jason

1925
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios, and

1926
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: we're in the final stretch to get tickets to horse

1927
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: racing's biggest moment of the year, the world's best start

1928
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: headed to Santa Anita for the Breeders' Cup World Championships

1929
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 2: on November third and fourth. The countdown begins.

1930
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Speaker 1: Now.

1931
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Speaker 2: Get tickets today at breederscup dot com. Tell you what

1932
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: Jason danced around. It's gonna be a fun slate of

1933
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 2: NFL football.

1934
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 3: We do it.

1935
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: Every Sunday morning Saturday night, depending on where you are

1936
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: get to the biggest games of the week. Thank you

1937
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: for the music, Lorena, Pat What is the first game

1938
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: that we are getting to right now?

1939
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,919
Speaker 9: The first game we are going is in the NFC

1940
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 9: Boys and is the Los Angeles Rams taking on the

1941
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys. Dallas is home for this game. And guys,

1942
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie to you. The spread we got

1943
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 9: here Dallas is seven and I'm sorry sting seven and

1944
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 9: a half, seven point favorites, a big old lead, one touchdown.

1945
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 9: Now I'm gonna go Jason, you first, who you taking

1946
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 9: the home team orre we going with the ramses.

1947
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. The Rams are The Rams are

1948
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: a team you can't trust, and Dallas is a team

1949
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: you can't trust. Dallas finds a way to lose games

1950
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: like this. The Rams, though, like Puka Nakua and what

1951
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: he's doing is ridiculous. Cooper Cup is back at times,

1952
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Stafford has looked the part. Unfortunately, you're running back. Kyen

1953
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Williams is on IR for a couple of more weeks.

1954
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: You've brought in a couple of other folks. The defense

1955
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: is still pretty solid. I like Sean McVay more than

1956
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 1: I like Mike McCarthy. But for the Rams to go

1957
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: to Dallas and win this game, I just don't see

1958
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: it against that defense. I think Stafford's gonna be running

1959
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: for his life a lot in this game. So give

1960
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: me the Cowboys to win at home.

1961
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree.

1962
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: Listen, the bottom line is that the Cowboys, like I

1963
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 2: just don't trust Mike McCarthy at all. And so whenever

1964
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 2: there's a moment where something looks obvious, it usually never

1965
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: works out that way because the coaching isn't very good.

1966
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: And so you're coming off maybe your best performance, and

1967
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: not your best performance of the season, but a very

1968
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: good performance Monday night football against the Chargers. You have

1969
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 2: the bye, everything's going well. This is a game off

1970
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: of a bye against a Rams team that is very thin.

1971
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 2: We know their limitations. This is a game that you

1972
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 2: should dominate and win at home. I just don't see it.

1973
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 2: I think It's a one possession game, obviously, and I

1974
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: think it's gonna come down to you know, it's gonna

1975
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 2: be late, and the Cowboys are probably gonna win, but

1976
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be a little too close for comfort.

1977
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 2: By the way, really quickly update on that late college

1978
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: football game. The eleventh ranked Oregon State Beavers have fallen

1979
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: behind the Arizona Wildcats. Arizona trails twenty to seventeen or

1980
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 2: Arizona leads twenty to seventeen. Just want to keep everybody updated.

1981
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 2: There the number eleven Oregon State Beavers on upset alert.

1982
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 9: All right, now, we're gonna go to the AFC on

1983
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 9: this one, guys and boy, this one's at AFC East

1984
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 9: Division fight. It's the New England Patriot. It's taking on

1985
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 9: the Miami Dolphins. Miami is home and boys. If you

1986
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 9: thought the line for the Dallas Cowboys game was big,

1987
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 9: this one's a lot bigger. Eight and a half favorites

1988
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 9: goes to the Miami Dolphins of the Patriots.

1989
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 6: Aaron, what do you think? Do you like that too?

1990
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you know. This is one that

1991
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 2: I definitely want to listen to. I want to listen

1992
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 2: to countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM with Brian

1993
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: No and the Boys tomorrow. Because that line feels way

1994
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 2: too big to me. Listen, the Dolphins are awesome. I

1995
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: love the Dolphins story, I love everything about it. But

1996
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill has been out of practice all week. We

1997
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna play tomorrow. And beyond that, I

1998
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: think the other thing is they've already played once this

1999
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: season and it was a close, competitive game in Foxborough. Now,

2000
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 2: admittedly Miami did win that game, but I do think

2001
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 2: there is something to The Patriots probably played their best

2002
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: game of the season last week.

2003
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 3: Dolphins got beat up a little bit of a blueprint.

2004
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: You give Belichick a second chance to see that offense

2005
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: at less than one hundred percent nine and a half.

2006
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 2: I know the game is in Miami. That just feels

2007
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: like way too many points. So give me Miami, you know,

2008
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty three. I think it's close, but

2009
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: I'll pick Miami to win it home.

2010
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably likely. I don't

2011
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: disagree that nine is too big a number one thing.

2012
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 1: You look at the Dolphins this year, what they've done

2013
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: really well was beat up on bad teams or mediocre teams.

2014
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: What they've done poorly is beat teams you expected to

2015
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: be good this year and playoff teams from last year.

2016
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, you beat the Broncos by fifty, You beat

2017
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: a pretty woeful Giants team by fifteen. You beat Carolina

2018
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: and their rookie quarterback who's still looking for their first

2019
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: win of the year. You do beat a I think

2020
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: a bad New England team by seven in Week two,

2021
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: But you lose to Buffalo, and you get beat down

2022
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: by the Buffalo as a matter of fact, and you

2023
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: get pretty much handled by the Philadelphia Eagles. So what

2024
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: happens here? Patriots coming off a win. I think that

2025
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: that was more a function of just how battered the

2026
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are defensively right now than it is something

2027
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 1: that the Patriots have figured out. I think that the

2028
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins will win the football game. I like you, think

2029
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: it's probably another a touchdown kind of game. But this

2030
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,959
Speaker 1: is one where the Dolphins could really use another thunderous

2031
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: performance to kind of turn that narrative back in favor

2032
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 1: of their offense.

2033
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: That was the first two games that we previewed. We

2034
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 2: obviously just talked Miami and New England as well as Cowboys,

2035
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: Rams will come back. We will talk the big one

2036
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and San Francisco, and of course, on top of that,

2037
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 2: will preview the rest of a busy, busy, busy Sunday slate.

2038
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 2: That's all next though, before we get to the rest

2039
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 2: of our preview, let's toss it over the news desk

2040
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Wired.

2041
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 3: What is trending well right now?

2042
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 5: We've got one ranked team in college football in action,

2043
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 5: the number eleven Oregon State Beavers, now trailing Arizona in Tucson.

2044
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 5: It's twenty seventeen, a little bit after a little bit

2045
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 5: under five minutes to go in the fourth quarter. The

2046
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 5: Wildcats with the ball, tried to add on to this lead.

2047
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 5: As the clock continues to tip down. Oregon State has

2048
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 5: two timeouts left, so I we'll see how much of

2049
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 5: this clock that Arizona can take down before potentially scoring

2050
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 5: here on this drive. Rest of the action in college

2051
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 5: football has concluded staying in the Pac twelve Number twenty

2052
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 5: four USC coming off two tough losses, first of block

2053
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 5: to Notre Dame, then a difficult heartbreaker to Utah, and

2054
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 5: they were looking to get back on track against California

2055
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 5: and they were on the road in Berkeley was much

2056
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 5: closer than what was anticipated. The Golden Bears only had

2057
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 5: three wins entering tonight, and they were able to make

2058
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 5: it interesting. In fact, they even got to within one

2059
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 5: point with fifty eight seconds to go, setting up a

2060
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 5: chance for them to get the win on a two

2061
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 5: point conversion attempt.

2062
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 7: Two point conversion try to give Cow the lead with

2063
01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 7: fifty eight seconds left in regulation time. Mendoza looks right,

2064
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 7: looks left, being rushed, throws back at the end, so

2065
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 7: knocked away my challenged Smith. Pressure applied up front by

2066
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 7: the Trojans defensive line and it didn't give Bendoz any

2067
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 7: chance to throw the ball where he wanted to throw it,

2068
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 7: and the Trojans turn away the two point.

2069
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 5: Conversion, usc escaping from Berkeley with a fifty to forty

2070
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: nine win. As they're back on the winning tracks. Standing

2071
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 5: in the PAC twelve number five, Washington back and forth

2072
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 5: with Stanford. They each time it seemed like Stanford got

2073
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 5: close within two, Washington would score, then Stanford would get

2074
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 5: to within two, then Washington would score again. We saw

2075
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 5: that happen three times before the Huskies eventually able to

2076
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 5: pull away and win it by nine forty two. To

2077
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 5: thirty three. Michael Pennix three hundred and sixty nine passing

2078
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,440
Speaker 5: yards and four touchdowns.

2079
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 4: The game between.

2080
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 5: Oregon and Utah he much anticipated matchup that really was

2081
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 5: a sleeper. The Ducks at thirty five to six win

2082
01:43:56,240 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 5: against Utah in the Mountain West. Number nineteen Air beats

2083
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 5: Colorado State thirty to thirteen, and an interesting thing happened

2084
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 5: the fans, not the players. The fans were called for

2085
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 5: a penalty and unsportsmanlike penalty because the Colorado State fans

2086
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 5: were throwing snowballs at the Air Force bench. Number twenty

2087
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 5: one Tennessee thirty three, twenty seven winners over Kentucky. Third

2088
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 5: ranked Ohio State pulls away from Wisconsin twenty four to ten.

2089
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 5: Number twelve Ole Miss thirty three seven winners against Vanderbilt

2090
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 5: at the Rose Bowl. Coach Prime rolls into town, but

2091
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 5: it's number twenty three UCLA coming away with the victory

2092
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 5: twenty eight to sixteen. Georgia Tech with the upsod at

2093
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 5: number seventeen, North Carolina forty six, forty two, Number twenty

2094
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 5: five James Madison over Old Dominion thirty to twenty seven.

2095
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 5: The epsode of the day. However, in Lawrence down go

2096
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 5: the number six Oklahoma Sooners as Kansas beats him thirty

2097
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 5: eight thirty three, the student section tear down the goalposts,

2098
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 5: carrying it out the stadium and much like the Tennessee

2099
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 5: fans did last year against Alabama, throwing it in the

2100
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 5: nearest body of water they could find. And in Major

2101
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 5: League Baseball World Series Game two, Arizona Diamondbacks demolished the

2102
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 5: Texas Rangers nine and one, the entire offense clicking Tommy

2103
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 5: Fan four for four, Lord of Scaryell went two for

2104
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 5: three with an RBI. Gabe Marino hit a home run.

2105
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 5: Evan Longoria. He hadn't played in the World Series since

2106
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, back when he was a rookie

2107
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 5: with the Rays. Back in big fashion, he had an

2108
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 5: RBI based notock as well as The Diamondbacks tie up

2109
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,600
Speaker 5: this best of seven series with the Texas Rangers at

2110
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,560
Speaker 5: one game a piece, setting up a pivotal game three

2111
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 5: Monday evening in Phoenix, and that can be seen on Fox.

2112
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 5: Back to you guys, thank you very much, Kevin Wired,

2113
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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era Tours. Jason Martin

2114
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 5: broadcasting at I from the Tireck dot Com Studios Uh,

2115
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 5: let's get back to it.

2116
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 2: Loraina, give us a little music, and Pat, I'll let

2117
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: you go ahead, give us our next game.

2118
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Speaker 9: All right, boys, we're gonna stick in the AFC for

2119
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 9: this one. And this one might be one of the

2120
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 9: sleeper games of the week. We got the Jacksonville Jaguars

2121
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 9: taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steel Curtain is home for

2122
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 9: this matchup, and I'm not gonna lie to you, guys.

2123
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 9: It's a pretty tight one. Jacksonville is actually favored by

2124
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 9: two points being the away team.

2125
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 6: Jason, what do you think, man.

2126
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 1: It's a tough one because that's not an easy place

2127
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 1: to play. It's getting colder there. I don't know. I

2128
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: need to look at the weather and see exactly. Well, Okay,

2129
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: it looks like forty eight degrees, so it is going

2130
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: to be rather chilly there. I still don't love the Steelers,

2131
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: but they're just they just find a way sometimes. This

2132
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 1: feels like the kind of game that they could win.

2133
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: I actually I'm gonna pick Pittsburgh to win this game

2134
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: at home, outright. I just I'm still not quite sold

2135
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars. I've seen some good and some bad.

2136
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that they have completely turned the corner

2137
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: and this is a really tough place to go in

2138
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: and play, and so I think Pittsburgh actually upsets them.

2139
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I kind of feel the same way. First

2140
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,799
Speaker 2: of all, Jacksonville, it's been, you know, to their credit,

2141
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they've really been pretty good from a win

2142
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 2: loss perspective over the last couple of weeks, and they've

2143
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 2: played good football. But I mean, listen, you spend two

2144
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 2: weeks in in London, then you come back, you fly

2145
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, you fly to you play. Excuse me,

2146
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 2: let me let me start two weeks in London, come home,

2147
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 2: then you go to New Orleans. Now you got to

2148
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: go to Pittsburgh. And oh, by the way, you're bye

2149
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 2: is next week as well. So it just feels like

2150
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 2: a lot of wear and tear on those guys. You know,

2151
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 2: you're sitting at five and two, you have control of

2152
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: the division. You never want to let your foot off

2153
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 2: the gas. But I just think this is a bad

2154
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 2: spot for them. And then Pittsburgh as a home underdog,

2155
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's usually pretty good. I mean, you know, unfortunately

2156
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: we don't have Bernie Friderwan in this time slot anymore.

2157
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 2: He'll be following us, but he has some great I'm

2158
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 2: sure he would have some great stats on Mike Tomlin

2159
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: as a home underdog. I suspect he's pretty good as

2160
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 2: a home underdog. I think Pittsburgh wins outright as well.

2161
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 9: All right, all right, now we're going with the last one,

2162
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 9: and we saved the best for last boys, because this one.

2163
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 6: Is the probable game of the week.

2164
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 9: We got Cincinnati Bengals with Joe Burrow versus the San

2165
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 9: Francisco forty nine ers in Sonny Santa Clara. This is

2166
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 9: the afternoon game. Now, the line here is actually a

2167
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:18,759
Speaker 9: little wider. It's five point favorite. Go to the Niners,

2168
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 9: of course, as they are home. Aaron, what do you

2169
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 9: like on this one?

2170
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we did our Rock Party conversation earlier in

2171
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 2: the show, and I just don't get the hate for him.

2172
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Obviously for people who missed the story today, he is back,

2173
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 2: but a lot of he is back. He's clear from

2174
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 2: percussion protocol, and Kyle Shanahan has already said that he

2175
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 2: will play. I just don't get like why everyone is

2176
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 2: so anti Brock Party. Two losses, both on the road,

2177
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: both by one possession, one thanks to a missed field goal.

2178
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 2: Don't really get what the big issue is, but I

2179
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,520
Speaker 2: do think they come home, they bounce back. Obviously, Cincinnati

2180
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 2: had a tough start to the season. They to their credit,

2181
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 2: have been playing a little bit better in recent weeks,

2182
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 2: but I don't think I've seen anything that makes me

2183
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: feel like they have completely turned their season round.

2184
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 3: So go ahead, give me San Francisco to win and

2185
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 3: cover YEP.

2186
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you. I wouldn't be shocked

2187
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: if the Bengals won the game, but they're coming in

2188
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 1: off two wins. They're going to the West Coast, and

2189
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are coming off with two very

2190
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 1: close losses on the road, and now they're back home.

2191
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Give me the Niners. It just feels like this is

2192
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: going to be a big time Christian McCaffrey game, and

2193
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: it should be a nice game for Brandon Aiyuk because

2194
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: of course you're not gonna have Deebo Samuel. I still

2195
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: don't think the Cincinnati defense is particularly deep, and I

2196
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 1: don't love the secondary now that Bats has gone. I

2197
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 1: still like Mike killing a lot and I still like

2198
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: some pieces there, but I think the Niners defense getting

2199
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: after Joe Burrow. I still don't trust the offensive line

2200
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati, so I think it could be a big

2201
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: day for them as well defensively.

2202
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Pat, we got a little bit extra time.

2203
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Why don't you go ahead and give us a bonus

2204
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 2: game this evening?

2205
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 6: All right, boys, it's bonus round.

2206
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: Let's go.

2207
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 6: Well, you know what a game show? Nine nine?

2208
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: I don't think, are right?

2209
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 9: Oh, welcome, welcome to the bonus. No, we're just staying

2210
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 9: in the AFC. We got AFC West matchup. It's the

2211
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 9: it's the other afternoon game. Kansas City Chiefs going into

2212
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 9: Denver to play. That's right, you guess the Jason Martin's

2213
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 9: Denver Bronco team Denver's home.

2214
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 3: You know what, can you feeling the upset?

2215
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: Buddy?

2216
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 6: It's some one favorites man for Kansas City? Are you

2217
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 6: feeling it?

2218
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: No? I think Kansas City's gonna win by twenty.

2219
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey was at the World Series last night, you

2220
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 3: know not.

2221
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't really understand why he was

2222
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 2: there in a game week, But you don't think Travis

2223
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: Kelsey partying after Game one of the World Series. Maybe

2224
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 2: a little bit hungover, maybe not ready to go, Maybe

2225
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of Russ cooking a little Russ magic.

2226
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean, the one thing that really is

2227
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of scary if you're the rest of the NFL

2228
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: is that Kansas City's defense is quietly playing really good

2229
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: football this year. Yep, especially since Chris Jones has gotten back,

2230
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 1: but just Spagnola has really done a nice job so far.

2231
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 1: If that defense is gonna give them this kind of performance,

2232
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: who is going to beat them? Like? Their offense hasn't

2233
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:16,520
Speaker 1: been as dynamic or maybe not as eye poppingly dynamic

2234
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: as it has been in years past, But it doesn't matter.

2235
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: If the defense is doing things like this, they just

2236
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: look really good, and they look better this year than

2237
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 1: they did last year. To me, as an overall football team,

2238
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Dever's got a chance. I don't think

2239
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be close. I don't think even as a

2240
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos fan, I'm gonna have much interest in watching

2241
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: this past the first half.

2242
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 2: I can't really disagree with anything you said. I think

2243
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 2: Kansas City wins. Kansas City wins comfortably. The defense probably

2244
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 2: maybe not, you know, probably finally starting to get the

2245
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 2: credit they deserve. They've been playing really well all year.

2246
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: We've been so focused on the offense not looking like

2247
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 2: it has that. We probably haven't given them enough credit.

2248
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 2: By the way, the Chiefs play the Dolphins next week

2249
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 2: before a bye, and then they will have a they

2250
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: will have a Monday night game with the Philadelphia Eagles.

2251
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:12,480
Speaker 2: By the way, keeping everybody updated on the last remaining

2252
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 2: ranked team in college football. Looks like we're about to

2253
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 2: get a little bit of an upset out there in

2254
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 2: the desert in Tucson. Arizona two sounds more of a

2255
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: valley than a desert. But the Oregon State Oregon State Beavers,

2256
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 2: excuse me, ranked eleventh in the country, trail twenty seven

2257
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 2: to seventeen. The Arizona Wildcats tell you this, Jason, we

2258
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 2: were on air when they probably should have beat USC.

2259
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've they've actually, they've challenged. They have made some

2260
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: team sweat, like three four teams this year. They have

2261
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 1: come very close to beating like this Arizona team. I

2262
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: think Arizona fan should feel pretty I think already span her. Yeah,

2263
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: shockingly enough, should feel pretty good about this. I mean,

2264
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,799
Speaker 1: they really do play hard. I mean the same thing. Honestly,

2265
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: we're starting to think maybe is sort of true about

2266
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Stanford Stanford's terrible, but Stanford makes you eat them at

2267
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: the very least. I think that's that's a feather in

2268
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: your cap if you have nothing else. And look, Arizona's

2269
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: four and three and maybe about to be five and

2270
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: three with a top fifteen win under their belt.

2271
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2272
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: Last four games for Arizona a touchdown loss to Washington,

2273
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 2: a double overtime loss to USC, a win over a

2274
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 2: ranked Washington State team at the time, and it looks

2275
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 2: as though they are going to beat Oregon State. They're

2276
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: up twenty seven to seventeen with one forty eight left,

2277
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 2: although Oregon State is driving. Tell you what, Jason will

2278
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: come back and we will wrap the show. One segment left.

2279
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Trenio.

2280
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Are least seven yards on that connection, head off Devaneil

2281
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: at the five, still out.

2282
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 4: Of speed, he dives to the end zone.

2283
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: He's in the lones touchdown Kansas, Devin Neal delivers emma.

2284
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 6: Jayhawks storm back to.

2285
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 7: Take the lead with fifteen twenty five seconds to go.

2286
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 2: That was Brian Hanny from lear Field as Kansas pulls

2287
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 2: off the stunner beating Oklahoma at home. And that was

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2293
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Speaker 2: of the day, but it looks like we might have another.

2294
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 2: In Tucson, Arizona. The eleventh ranked Oregon State Beavers have

2295
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 2: fallen to the Arizona Wildcats for the second straight game.

2296
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Arizona upsets a top twenty five opponent. Oregon State, which

2297
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: entered this game at six and one overall, falls the

2298
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats get the victory, So shout out to Arizona.

2299
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 2: Great story. They're sitting there at five and three right now.

2300
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 2: Jason and I were on air a few weeks ago

2301
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 2: and they lost in double overtime to USC a game

2302
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: they easily could have and probably should have won. Arizona

2303
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 2: now five and three overall. Jason, I'll tell you what.

2304
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Let's wrap actually on a little bit of college football

2305
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 2: because this coming Tuesday, before we get back on air,

2306
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 2: we will have the first college football Playoff reveal. So

2307
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 2: for people who are new to college football or don't

2308
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: remember how this works. The College Football Playoff Committee, the

2309
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 2: people who choose those four teams that make the College

2310
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,879
Speaker 2: Football Playoff, they will meet for the first time this week.

2311
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: They ultimately put out a ranking every week that is

2312
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: the ranking that matters, and they will put out their

2313
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: top four. Jason, if you were a one man playoff committee,

2314
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 2: go ahead and give me your top four going into

2315
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 2: the week.

2316
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: Do you want to go four to one or you

2317
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: will go one to four?

2318
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 2: You know what, it's one fifty on a Saturday Sunday.

2319
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 2: You do whatever you feel like, Jason.

2320
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Martin, all right, I'll give you Ohio State at four

2321
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: because you know they have beaten Penn State, even though

2322
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,879
Speaker 1: I haven't been super impressed. I can't. I'm not impressed

2323
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 1: with Washington right now either. They're undefeated, but then you

2324
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: look at everybody else as a one lost team outside

2325
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: of the ones I have above Ohio State, and maybe

2326
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior is a Heisman favorite right now. He's

2327
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: certainly on the list. Number three has a Heisman favorite

2328
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: for me also, and that's Jordan Travis and Florida State.

2329
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: So I'll put them at three. I've got Michigan at two,

2330
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: even though they haven't been challenged and we're not going

2331
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: to know a lot about them, we know what they

2332
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: were last year, and they do appear to be better

2333
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: and healthier than last year. So I've got to keep

2334
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: them there. And again, Georgia hadn't lost in multiple years,

2335
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: so I've still got them at one until further notice.

2336
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 1: And so that's it. Georgia one, Michigan two, Florida State three,

2337
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State four.

2338
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 3: You know, so you said who was not who? Did

2339
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 3: you have a number three?

2340
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: FSU Florida State?

2341
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 3: Okay?

2342
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't really want to be boring, but

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01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the right that's probably the right order.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 2: Listen, you and I spent a lot of time talking

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Speaker 2: about Michigan earlier in the show. If people missed it,

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01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 2: go back and listen to it. I think there is

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01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 2: a very strong argument that a lot of why they

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 2: have looked so good is because they literally have the

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: other team signs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very possible, yes.

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01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: But we don't know that right now. All we know

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01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: is that they have beaten the crap out of everyone

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 2: that they have played, and so I don't think you

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01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 2: should put them ahead of Georgia because Georgia has basically

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01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 2: beaten the crap out of everybody that they've played too.

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01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there was a close ish game

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01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 2: against Auburn, but you and I watched that game.

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Speaker 3: It was never really in doubt.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about Georgia, their schedule does get everyone's

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01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 2: schedule gets much tougher here down the stretch. But I

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01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 2: just bring it up. I just pray it up to say,

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Speaker 2: I think your order is the same order that I

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01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 2: would have. Georgia's number one. They were the preseason number one.

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 2: They're in the SEC. They've beaten everybody they're supposed to,

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Speaker 2: largely in the manner that they're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Michigan, I would put it number two.

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Speaker 2: I would guess the committee might not because the resume

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01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 2: isn't there, but I would put them at number two.

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Speaker 2: I would put Florida State number three. Florida State's got

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01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 2: a very nice resume. By the way we talked about it,

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01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 2: maybe last week or the week before that. LSU win

2373
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 2: just looks better and better with each passing week. And

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Speaker 2: you know, who knows, that could be one of the

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01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 2: best Wednesday college football by this time next week. LSU

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01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 2: plays at Alabama next Saturday, and then I would have

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01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State at number four.

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01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 3: It hasn't always been.

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01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Pretty, but listen, let's credit the defense, let's credit the

2380
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 2: run game, Let's credit Marvin Harrison, and you look at

2381
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 2: the resume. Win at Notre Dame Penn stayed at home,

2382
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 2: even the win at Wisconsin to night. Wisconsin is not

2383
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 2: an easy place to play, So I would go with

2384
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 2: the same four as you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that I would really like

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01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 1: to see Ohio State and Oregon play, yes, because I'm

2387
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 1: not sure Oregon's not the better football team or the

2388
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: one I would pick to win that game. But that's

2389
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: not how I can rank the It's not I can't

2390
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: look at it and say, well, if they played, I

2391
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 1: think this team would be better. Therefore, no, like I

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 1: have to look at it for a resume standpoint. As

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01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: long as Ohio State is undefeated, I kind of have

2394
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: to keep them there.

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01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree.

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01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 2: And you know the other thing too, is like, right now,

2397
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: head to head matters, right, And I say that because like,

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01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't think Washington is a better team than Oregon

2399
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 2: right now, right I don't either, but they probably will

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01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 2: be ranked number five and they probably should be ranked

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01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 2: number five. So so it'll be very interesting to see.

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01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see what happens with Oklahoma

2403
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: and Texas. Oklahoma obviously losing the big game today, but

2404
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 2: they have the head to head win over Texas. By

2405
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 2: the way, we didn't talk about Texas, but give them

2406
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of credit. You know, No Quinn yours

2407
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 2: today and they destroyed byu S.

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01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: So Quinn yours maybe for a month.

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01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a bummer. Listen.

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01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 2: If teams win, teams lose, you want to see him

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01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 2: at full strength. But Texas takes care of business and

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01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 2: one of the many teams that took care of business today. Jason,

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Speaker 2: I think we got to get out of here. Want

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Speaker 2: to thank the crew. I want to thank Lorena on

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Speaker 2: the board, Producer Pat Kevin wired on the update anchor desk.

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