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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calllita Health. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: this Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. I'm Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown is traveling with the Bills as they head

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Speaker 1: to Chicago for joint practices with the Bears. I am now.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be joined by our good friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, Chris Trapasso of the trap Sheet at Trapsheet

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Speaker 1: dot substack dot com. You can go there and read

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Chris, Thanks for coming in, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you on.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be been a minute. It's been a while,

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Speaker 2: especially you and me on the show together. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: great to be back. We still have summer weather, but

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Speaker 2: football is here. Like the summer in my mind is

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Speaker 2: pretty much done.

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Speaker 3: We are here.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Football's back, final season at this old stadium.

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Speaker 3: New stadium's coming together.

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Speaker 2: Every time I drive past, it's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe the development.

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Speaker 1: You can see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a really fun time of the year,

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Speaker 2: and the next couple months are going to be a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of fun. What'd you think the first preseason.

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Speaker 2: Game interesting that things kind of started slowly, and then

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Speaker 2: in the second half started slowly, but some big plays

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Speaker 2: from some players that we're going to talk about. The

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Speaker 2: quarterback two battle I think is interesting, but the deep

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Speaker 2: depth of wide receiver, to me, is kind of become

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Speaker 2: one of the more fascinating positional battles on this entire

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Speaker 2: Bills team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that for a minute. Last year

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Speaker 1: they kind of turned the corner and made this huge

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Speaker 1: philosophical shift to everybody eats and the def dig walked

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Speaker 1: away and it worked huge. I mean it was obviously,

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Speaker 1: it was like a home run. They scored more points

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Speaker 1: than anybody in franchise history. They scored more points than

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Speaker 1: any team in the league through the playoffs, and in

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Speaker 1: regular season it was a fantastic offensive year. They averaged

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Speaker 1: over thirty points a game. I don't think nobody in

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Speaker 1: this history of the club has done No team in

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Speaker 1: the history of the club has done that. And it

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Speaker 1: was in large measure obviously due to Josh. But they

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Speaker 1: ran it forty nine percent of the time, so they

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Speaker 1: were up in games a lot. In order to do that,

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Speaker 1: they ground out some wins. But this year they're coming

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Speaker 1: back with the same thing, except I think in large

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Speaker 1: measure top to bottom they're probably more talented in that

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Speaker 1: room at receiver than they were a year ago when

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Speaker 1: they had so much success.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to look one for one,

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Speaker 2: I think the age and the explosiveness of Josh Palmer

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Speaker 2: compared to Mac Collins, who kind of became like a

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Speaker 2: cult hero late in the season and into the postseason,

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Speaker 2: that gives.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a leg up to this group.

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Speaker 2: And then all the players that in that first preseason

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Speaker 2: game we saw make plays from Christian Wilkerson almost had

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Speaker 2: like the catchup preseason Week one had a twenty yard catch,

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Speaker 2: Tyrrell Shavers with the big fifty plus yarder before the

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Speaker 2: end of the first half, kJ Hamler showing off his speed,

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Speaker 2: It is a little bit of a deeper room, and

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Speaker 2: I think even at the top, with Elijah Moore and

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Speaker 2: is I think a better group at the top as well,

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Speaker 2: which is really encouraging after what we saw the Bills

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Speaker 1: What do you think it means for Josh? Certainly he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's had the season of all seasons. He

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Speaker 1: was the league MVP, got him to the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: in that game. Is it just as simple in your mind?

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Speaker 1: And I kind of what I think, but I really

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Speaker 1: thought about it in these terms. Do you think I

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Speaker 1: How much did they change? Are what changes?

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Speaker 2: I think obviously everybody eats. I mean, we're seeing on

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Speaker 2: some point too. I think, obviously that philosophy will stay

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Speaker 2: on this show, banging on this table. The Bills needed

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Speaker 2: I think we'll see more of an emphasis on Josh

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Speaker 1: And I we're talking just before the show. You know,

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Speaker 1: the James Cook contract that he saw four years forty

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Speaker 1: eight million. Is that right? Four years forty eight and

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Speaker 1: James Cook was the big play he was, I mean,

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Speaker 1: James Cook. What do you think of that contract? It

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Speaker 1: does seem a good value to you. I think both

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's good value.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I personally am not a big advocate of

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Speaker 2: that there is a little wiggle room that James Cook

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Speaker 3: He barely got the ball, so he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Coming to the NFL in twenty twenty two, was a

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Speaker 2: what we had seen with them drafting Singletary and then

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Speaker 2: being at only the eleventh most fully guaranteed figure in

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Speaker 1: It never it never fails to during the preseason, everybody

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Speaker 1: You know, Frank gorg Junior's out there right right, Christian Wade,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see Frank gorg Junior. I want

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Speaker 1: players even said he had love Frank Gore. He's really yeah.

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Speaker 1: So and here's why this with talking about James Cook.

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Speaker 1: So James Cook's now making whatever, twelve million bucks, and

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Speaker 1: want to see what he's making. Eight hundred grand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's why it's a problem. You got people say, man,

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Speaker 1: I like, I like Frank Gore. He's making eight hundred grand.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got James Cook, who's you know, making

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Speaker 1: to pay one guy twelve million when a lot of

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Speaker 1: that Frank Gore is the same back as James Cook.

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Speaker 1: But you get my point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: People are running backs look good when they got the

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Speaker 1: it's hard to discern a twelve million I guess my

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Speaker 1: point is it's hard to discern a twelve million dollar

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Speaker 1: that's three times the player that Frank Gore Junior is

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Speaker 1: the Ty Johnson's of the you know all these guys

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Speaker 1: Ray Davis. That's why it's so difficult to get your

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys who are real good athletes, really

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Speaker 1: you're basically just know the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so, I think too.

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Speaker 2: Main reasons why this contract was signed and the Bills

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Speaker 2: were ready to give James Cook that twelve million when

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Speaker 2: they have the Ty Johnson's and the Ray Davises and

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Speaker 2: the Francors on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Two things.

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Speaker 2: Number one, James Cook going from his rookie season and

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Speaker 2: and it just felt like when you were watching James Cook,

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Speaker 2: he made more of a concerted effort and being a

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Speaker 2: more serious runner in the offseason last year with his training,

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Speaker 2: he ran a lot harder last season. I think early

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Speaker 2: on the first years he was a slasher, tried to

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Speaker 2: avoid contact, and I think the microcosm was that ridiculous

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Speaker 2: and I think rookie year or year two, James Cook

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Speaker 3: On downs, the game's over. Instead he stays on his feet.

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Speaker 2: He really showed that development that Brandon Bean always speaks to,

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Speaker 2: we want to draft, develop, and resign these players through

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Speaker 2: two years. Even though he was efficient with the football,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he was showing a lot of

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Speaker 3: With his receiving ability.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see as many drops, we didn't see him

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Speaker 2: lose the football. That's why I think the Bills were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we are willing to give this guy what the market

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Speaker 2: like you mentioned, one of the best run games in

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Speaker 2: the NFL last season that in specific situations could take

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Speaker 2: some of the pressure off Josh.

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Speaker 1: Also the Bills today, you're with Christaphastow and Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. They Bill signed defensive ends Nelson Caesar.

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Speaker 1: They waved wide receiver Jalen Virgil and defensive end Justin Hollins.

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Speaker 1: They got waved injured designated waved injured, so those guys

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Speaker 1: will go into the waiver process. You know about Nelson

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Speaker 1: Caesar if anybody's you did some scouting work on him

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Speaker 2: University of Houston had a seventh round great on him

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Speaker 2: last year. He's an interesting guy you can certainly I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming he's gonna just get thrust right onto.

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Speaker 3: The field for the season game.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of that hybrid edge rusher, off ball linebacker.

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Speaker 3: He's big.

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Speaker 2: He's six foot three over two hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 2: He was used a lot off the ball at Houston

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Speaker 1: It's all ironed out. It's where they get there. They

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Speaker 1: Right right moving around the around the NFL. Uh, you

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Speaker 2: And just to not automatically assume that because he was

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Speaker 2: an early second round pick and he was really good

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Speaker 2: as a rookie, that he just should get that exact

439
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: same money his years after his yards per Carrie average

440
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Speaker 2: has dipped in all three of his seasons.

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Speaker 3: With the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Also, yeah, we both of us know Mike Greenberg, who's

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Speaker 1: on ESPN. He's on get Up and he was on

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Speaker 1: Mike and Mike in the Morning for years and years

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Speaker 1: and years. Now he's at ESPN doing get Up. He

446
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Speaker 1: named the best. He named our own Josh Allen as

447
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback never to start a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: How about the graphic that was on get Up this

449
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Speaker 2: morning was in the four playoffs that Josh Allen has

450
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Speaker 2: participated in that have ended with a Chief's loss, so

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Speaker 2: four of them, he has twenty eight touchdowns one turnover.

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Speaker 2: That's fumbles too, twenty eight touchdowns, one turnover. The only

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals loss. There was a few few turnovers

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Speaker 2: in that game. But in four of the five playoff

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Speaker 2: ventures for Josh Allen, twenty eight touchdowns, one turnover. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to play any better than that at quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. He's been great and for any Chiefs

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Speaker 1: haters out there, which there might be one or two

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Speaker 1: in our listening audience. So Rashid Rice is also he's

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver for the Chiefs that was arrested or

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Speaker 1: brought up on charges for racing cars down through the

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Speaker 1: I think it was the I ten in Dallas cast

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Speaker 1: a big pile up.

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Speaker 3: This is like two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's been. It was in two off seasons ago.

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Speaker 1: So now only now are they starting that the legal

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Speaker 1: process has played itself out and he is now set

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Speaker 1: to have his hearing with the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Interesting date September thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: September thirtieth, September thirtieth. Now if you're wondering September thirtieth, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's after week four, so you know September seventh is

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Speaker 1: when the season starts, so it's three weeks after the

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Speaker 1: season starts. So the Chiefs are going to have the

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Speaker 1: services of even if it's the worst possible scenario, he's

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Speaker 1: suspended for the rest of the year, the Chiefs get

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Speaker 1: him for the Chargers, the Eagles, the Giants, and the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: We got a tough start, they do, but those are

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Speaker 1: all like you've got a division opponent, you've got the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch, and the Giants and Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Can I put a Bill spin on this quick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead that if he's suspended for five games, if

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Speaker 2: you look at all the schedule, if he's suspended for

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Speaker 2: five games, he will miss the game here in Orchard

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Speaker 2: Park against the Bills on November second.

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Speaker 1: This is just in I'm pretty sure he'll get four games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably gonna be the game.

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Speaker 1: Before we get four games. I mean, he'll go in

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Speaker 1: on September. He'll go in on September thirtieth, which is

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Speaker 1: two days after they play the Ravens at home in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. He'll miss the Jaguars, the Lions, the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and the Commanders. He'll be back for the Bills. That's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that.

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Speaker 3: That's usually I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put her on a white board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why the league like usually comes

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Speaker 2: down with these four games. It's usually a four game

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Speaker 2: suspension for something pretty serious like this. The lesser infractions

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Speaker 2: are normally two games. But I just wanted to put

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Speaker 2: it out there. It's five weeks away from the Bills game.

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Speaker 1: And people will say, well, it's much more of an

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Speaker 1: egregious crime what he did, like rather than Mike Hoyt

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Speaker 1: and Larry Ogunjobi. Yeah, you think because and they got six.

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Speaker 1: But it the way the league views And we talked

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Speaker 1: Brownie and I have talked about this. Ogun Joby and Hoyt,

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Speaker 1: their infractions spoke to the integrity of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, good point.

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Speaker 1: This was outside the Lions. This is in a personal life.

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Speaker 1: This is something that just reflects badly on Rashid. It

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do.

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Speaker 3: With football football, so it'll probably before you're right.

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Speaker 1: Notoriously, the league is a little less punitive on those

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Speaker 1: kind of situations. Yeah, and I guess you can. I

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Speaker 1: understand why. But nevertheless, September they I wonder if that's arbitrary.

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Speaker 1: Did they just pick that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Let me say, I'm sure the Chiefs had a voice

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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 2: They probably did, and and that I'm wondering if I

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Speaker 2: can remember, I can't any other time where a player

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Speaker 2: had a impending suspension and that the league didn't ultimately

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Speaker 2: rule on it until in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 2: It's almost always before the season. Jordan Addison from the

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Speaker 2: Vikings got his suspension a few days ago.

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Speaker 3: It's normally.

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Speaker 2: Over and done with before September hit, so that's kind

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Speaker 2: of interesting and unusual for that to be September three.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break, Steve Tasker, Chris

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Speaker 1: Carpasso here, we're gonna come back. We've got a question

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Speaker 1: for you if you want to think about it and

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Speaker 1: chime in while we're off to break. What are you

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Speaker 1: looking to see from the Bills in Sunday's preseason game

534
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Speaker 1: with a Bear? It's a pretty simple question. They got

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Speaker 1: a second preseason game, you've seen him once. They're having

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Speaker 1: a dual practice, a joint practice with the Bears the

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Speaker 1: day before. What do you want to see in the game?

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christapasso on Buffalo Bill's Radio, and you're listening

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: Steve task along with Christia Pass. So we're asking you

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Speaker 1: what do you want to see in this Bill's second

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Speaker 1: preseason game after a day of hard practices against the Bears?

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Speaker 1: Are gonna play him on Sunday? They'll have they'll go

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Speaker 1: in practice tomorrow on Friday, have a day off on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Walk through mock game, that kind of thing. Meetings and

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Speaker 1: then they'll play on Sunday. What do you want to see? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You saw the first game Bills against Giants was a

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Speaker 1: three point low. I alwauld know that four point loss?

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Speaker 3: The score? No, it was? Was it nine?

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Speaker 1: Nine point? Sorry? My bad. So I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make it seem like I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Preseason scores did not matter, So there you go. Teams

553
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 3: are trying to right to not tie.

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Speaker 1: So we've got some feedback on our question. What do

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Speaker 1: you want to see from the Bills Bears? And obviously,

556
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Speaker 1: you know, we get some of this about, you know,

557
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Speaker 1: just don't get hurt kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: We all sound it's number one.

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Speaker 1: We all sound like our moms, you know, just don't

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Speaker 1: get hurt, have fun, don't get hurt. From David, he says, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I like to see the defense be

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Speaker 1: a little more consistent, and the first offense score touchdown

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Speaker 1: while they're in at least and no major injuries. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: you would like to see the offense score. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to do, particularly when they're when it's the plays they're running.

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Speaker 1: The plays they're running are football one oh one. It's

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Speaker 1: kindergarten football, and it's it's hard to look good doing

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Speaker 1: that because the guys you're playing against have seen those

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Speaker 1: plays since they were in middle school, so they do

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Speaker 1: keep it vanilla. Certainly, you would like to think at

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Speaker 1: some point your ability and your talent kind of shines

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Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a little frustrating, I think for fans.

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Speaker 1: But by the same token, if you go out there

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Speaker 1: and you hum over the Chicago Bears and score three

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Speaker 1: times in you know, ten plays, that's not I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: what's that tell us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: Kind of fun because there's no game planning like you're

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Speaker 2: getting at.

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Speaker 3: There's no game planning.

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Speaker 2: There's no strategizing about you know, the cornerback that you

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Speaker 2: want to really pick on, or hey, like the left

583
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Speaker 2: side of their defensive line is kind of weak, let's

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Speaker 2: run to the right a lot.

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Speaker 3: Because there's none of that. It's hard. Yeah, Like you

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Speaker 3: want to see first downs, you'd like to see points,

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Speaker 3: but to not take too much great or really bad,

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Speaker 3: especially when it's the first team, because those guys are

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Speaker 3: just not really playing the same type of football that

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Speaker 3: they will be come September.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've got some lines. Oh, we also got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of lines ring. We're gonna get to those

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Speaker 1: a minute. We got the call screen or this kind

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Speaker 1: of answer those in just a minute. But from Connery,

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Speaker 1: he says, I want to see progress from game one.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine we'll see the starters in some capacity

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I want to see the defense get off

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Speaker 1: the field on third down, the offense to get off

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Speaker 1: to a fast start. Not sure if seventeen will suit up,

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Speaker 1: but I want to see the rest of the offense

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Speaker 1: start fast. Yeah. That's that's good. I mean that touches

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Speaker 1: all the bases, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a problem on third down against the Giants,

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Speaker 2: And this probably speaks again to game planning. A lot

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Speaker 2: of like they would get the Giants, whether it was

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Speaker 2: with Jackson Dart or Russell Wilson or Jamis Winston into

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Speaker 2: third and long situations. The Giants hit a bunch of

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Speaker 2: screenplays to running backs that like it was third and

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Speaker 2: twelve when they got thirteen yards, it was third and

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Speaker 2: nine they got ten yards where and it started to

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Speaker 2: mix in some of the second teamers at that point.

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Speaker 3: But that's where the game planning or lack thereof, comes

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Speaker 3: into play.

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Speaker 2: Where yes, you would like to see the Bills get

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Speaker 2: off the field on third down, and don't take too

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Speaker 2: much from last year that was a major problem. That's

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Speaker 2: probably something in the regular season will be tracking how

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Speaker 2: much better the Bill's defense can be in third down situations.

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Speaker 2: But it was really running back screens. I thought in

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Speaker 2: this first preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Part of the problem in preseason, particularly if you've got

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Speaker 1: a really disciplined head coaching staff, the thought is too

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Speaker 1: they want to make it tough on the players physically

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Speaker 1: or strategically, but easy mentally. Like, I know they know

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Speaker 1: what they're just a field. I know what they're doing

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Speaker 1: on this play. They've got this down call. This group

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Speaker 1: has run this defense or run this offensive play twenty

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Speaker 1: times in camp. They know what they're doing. Let's see

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Speaker 1: him do it, even if it's a basic play.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: And even if we've run it three times already in

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Speaker 1: this game in this drive, right and yeah, right, So

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that going on as well.

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Speaker 1: They want to make these players get him to the

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Speaker 1: point where they can play free and easy because they

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Speaker 1: really know what they're doing. So they do keep it

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Speaker 1: simple for that reason as well. Straight dropbacks, easy pass protections,

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00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: quick releases, that kind of thing, and that which brings

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Speaker 1: me to another thing. Mitch Trubisky and Mike White on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast the other day, I thought, I'm in an observation.

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Speaker 1: I thought Trubisky is kind of a more well rounded

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Speaker 1: athlete like Josh Is. He'll get out and run a

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00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: little bit stuff. Mike White's a better thrower of the football,

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Speaker 1: though a little more closer to Josh in that respect, stronger.

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Speaker 1: I think that showed in the game. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any preferences to which guy you like or which guy

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Speaker 1: guys the role better.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, from scouting both of those players when Mitch was

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Speaker 2: coming out of North Carolina and Mike Waite out of

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Speaker 2: Western Kentucky, that is the perfect summary of both of

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Speaker 2: those two guys. That Trubisky is an all around athlete.

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Speaker 2: He can he can give you some ability as a runner,

654
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: whether it be as a designed runner or a scrambler.

655
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Mike White can really pepper the football in there.

656
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: He can spin it.

657
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can spin it.

658
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: We saw it on the kJ Handler touchdown. That that

659
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: was he was flush to his right a little and

660
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: just flick the football like fifty yards down on the field,

661
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: there was no problem. I just wonder if Trubisky having

662
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: been in Buffalo before, is he a little bit further

663
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: ahead in terms of his grasp of the playbook and

664
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: understanding even if it is very vanilla where to go

665
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: with the football. I think that will ultimately be what

666
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: is the deciding factor into who ultimately wins this quarterback

667
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: to job.

668
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: And it might be too And I don't want to

669
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: go I don't want to go down this rabbit hole

670
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: too far because if something happens to seventeen, everybody's gonna

671
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: reevaluate on a deep level. But sure, I think it

672
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: may be. I don't know if it's going to be

673
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: this close in the minding coaching staff's mind as to

674
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: how close these two guys are. But if you get

675
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: into a game and depending on which game you need

676
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: this guy to play in or start, Like if you

677
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: have to finish a game and then the next week

678
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a decision on who's going to start,

679
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: is it going to be about the matchup? I mean,

680
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a guy who can throw it like

681
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Mike White. Are you gonna need a guy like Mitch Trubisky?

682
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: What's the better matchup for the game they're actually gonna

683
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: have to play in. Uh, that's the interesting part of

684
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: this as well. I don't know the answer to that,

685
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. Mike White spends it pretty good,

686
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and he's.

687
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: More of a pocket guy, not an athletic outside.

688
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: He's like a Dan Fouts kind of guy who own school.

689
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: We'll see also this from Joshua, to see land and

690
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Jackson play more like himself. Yeah, he was in good

691
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: position last week, but I want to see him make

692
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: some problems in the Barriss backfield. So Landon Jackson's one

693
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: guy people, and obviously all the new guys are yet

694
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: to be evaluated by most fans. On a on you

695
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: know for an extended time, do you have who are

696
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: you looking for? Do you have an individual guy that

697
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at? Or yeah, group or what.

698
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get into offense and defense, but if

699
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk specifically now about Landon Jackson from this question,

700
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: it's a good one.

701
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

702
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Seeing any type of splash plays from him, I think

703
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: would be a luxury in year one in evaluating him

704
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: coming out of Arkansas.

705
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: He is an ascending player.

706
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: He's relatively young, and I think in round three his length,

707
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: he has over eighty three inch arms.

708
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: You know, super duper wingspan.

709
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: Excuse me, tested through the roof head over a forty

710
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: inch vertical. But I think the Bills understood he's kind

711
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: of a work in progress. So he's someone that I

712
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: think could be a starting defensive end week one in

713
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and any contributions that the Bills get

714
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: from him during his rookie season would be a huge

715
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: bonus for this team. So maybe we start to see

716
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 2: the lights come on a little bit in preseason game

717
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: number two as opposed to his debut technically in the NFL.

718
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the phones, Liz in Buffalo.

719
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the preseason game?

720
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 6: Liz, go ahead, Well, I'll tell you if anyone had

721
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: tuned into Good Morning Football the cast of characters who

722
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 6: were gleeful about Caleb Williams in the contest. I'm just

723
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 6: hopeful that they have a good practic and a good game,

724
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: and I hope everybody comes out of it at one piece.

725
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks you. I appreciate that. That's yeah, that's.

726
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: What I wonder with that. What I wonder, Yeah, the

727
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: hell thing is true.

728
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: I think to what Liz was getting at that, you know,

729
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: to see if the Bills can play well against Kayleb

730
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Williams because a lot of people are excited about the

731
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: former number one overall pick in his second season. I wonder,

732
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: and this goes back to your point about being vanilla not.

733
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: Showing too much.

734
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: The Bills have so many established foundations on defense. They

735
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: have the same defensive coordinator for the second straight year. Obviously,

736
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott has his his fingerprints all over the defense

737
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: for the last eight years. I wonder if Ben Johnson

738
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: plays the first team a little bit more and tries

739
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: to install more of what he's going to ultimately do

740
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: in the regular season with Kayleb Williams, the fact that

741
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: he's a first time head coach with a second year

742
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. They drafted Colston lovelin the tight

743
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: end in the first round, Luther Burden in the second

744
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: round receiver tight end, and that we might see more

745
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: intricacy and more maybe a little bit of game planning

746
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: from the Bears first team offense. So I'm not predicting

747
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: that they're going to score thirty points against the Bills

748
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: in the first half, but don't be surprised if they

749
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: are taking that unit and Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson

750
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: are taking this second preseason game as more of a

751
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: this is a real regular season game because we can't

752
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: start off on low in the regular season where the

753
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: Bills know what they have, they know what works, they

754
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: know what doesn't work on the defensive side.

755
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, and that's we'll talk about that a

756
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: little more after that. We'll take one last call here

757
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: before we get to the break mark in West Seneca Mark,

758
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. You're on one, Bills live, go ahead.

759
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 7: Oh no, I am finally on hi, guys. As far

760
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 7: as your question goes, I want to see the rookie

761
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 7: defensive players flash here and there. I mean, without game planning,

762
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 7: gets hired. But I want to see like Sanders and

763
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 7: Strong especially flash because I think they're gonna be really

764
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 7: dependent on those guys this year. And I got a

765
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 7: couple of questions real quick, do you think that they're

766
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 7: going to manage Mlonald's time much like you're gonna do

767
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 7: bosas uh to get these guys to the playoffs, and

768
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 7: especially since we have Dorian Williams that we can put

769
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 7: in there at any time, who was a very reliable,

770
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 7: good player. And my other question is do you have

771
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 7: any do you have any idea or theory that Curtis

772
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 7: Samuel could be in real danger of being clipped off

773
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 7: the roster and is his contract prohibitive in doing that?

774
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 7: Because you've got you know, Elijah Moore who's very much

775
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 7: the same kind of bodybuild and a real producer NFL

776
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 7: receiver who's established, and Shavers is also having a really

777
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 7: good camp.

778
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 8: So do you think he could.

779
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 7: Be in danger of being clipped? That's what I got

780
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 7: to tell you.

781
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: First, I don't think. I don't think Samuel's gonna get clipped.

782
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: His contract is tough to get rid of, so it's

783
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: a big cap hit and they I don't think they'll

784
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: want to do it. Plus they Samuel's very good. His

785
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: problem has been what it always is for these guys,

786
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: it's availability. So that's that's been the real problem. So Mark,

787
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I yeah, you'd like to see

788
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: these defense, these guys, the rookies flash who have flashed,

789
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: flashed some more. But as far as Curtis Samuel, no,

790
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: I think he's you can count on seeing him on the.

791
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Field, and Dan Walker and TJ.

792
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Sanders, the two rookie defensive tackles, were awesome against the

793
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: Giants in the first preseason game. Dean Walker had three pressures,

794
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: he batted down a pass.

795
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: J Sanders Sire. He's been the most consistent defensive and

796
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: he was the front of.

797
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: Every single KIXA Bills made in April. He was the

798
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: one I was most confident in just hitting the ground,

799
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: running and being, like you just mentioned, just stable because

800
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: he was so good at South Carolina for two seasons.

801
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: He was a big time athlete. He had two pressures

802
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: on just eleven pass rushing stamps. Again, it's the Giant,

803
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: So he's someone that, yeah, you certainly want to still

804
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: see it from him, but we saw it in that

805
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: first preseason game.

806
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: All right, we had I said it was just gonna

807
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: be one. But I'm gonna take Ryan from Toronto.

808
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: Ryan, go ahead, taste good topic.

809
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 8: Now, touching back on what you said about Curtis Haamuel,

810
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 8: how he's not gonna get clippic Bill. They're gonna take

811
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 8: a huge cap pet.

812
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: You know what.

813
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 8: To be honest, Bills have been taking a lot huge

814
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 8: capet this season alone. They're still playing for Van Miller

815
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 8: and today he is white on his from his first

816
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 8: contact extension. Now they extended Cook and Josh Hadden out

817
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 8: of twenty seven to twenty eighth season, They're going to

818
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 8: get a huge more capet on the salary cap. I

819
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 8: think right now this is the window for the Bills

820
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 8: to win all in because Bean has put them, put

821
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 8: himself in a situation where the capital is going to

822
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 8: hit him in about three four years with all his boidiers.

823
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 8: And the difference between Bean and Harvey Roseman in Philly

824
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 8: is that Roseman has gone to the Super Bowl twice

825
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 8: and one at once and Bean has not done it.

826
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 8: And I think his windows closing down a sap that's

827
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 8: taking call.

828
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: You bet, thanks, Ryan, I'll say this. You're right. The

829
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: cap is always a concern, but I don't think it's

830
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: as dire as you might make it. I agree with you.

831
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: There are some Von Miller hit. Trey's hit from the

832
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: other from two years ago that's off the books now

833
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: and he's back here on a on a much smaller deal.

834
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: The money that you get hit with in three or

835
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: four years, yeah, that's it. You're not gonna get hit

836
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: in three or four years, you get it hit the

837
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: next year and then it's gone, so you get the

838
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: money back on the cap. Certainly year to year it's

839
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: a problem, and the bills have always spent spent right

840
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: to the cap. In fact, you know, if push comes

841
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: to shove, they've got to save some money now to

842
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: get under the cap. For this year. They've got one

843
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: point five million. They are thirty second in cap space

844
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: right now. So I get your concern, but I don't

845
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: think Brandon Bean is concerned. They've got some maneuvering they

846
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: can do. And listen, if you really want to know

847
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, I'll tell exactly what they'll do

848
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: next year when it's time to look at their cap.

849
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a dead cap hit of two hundred

850
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: and nine million if they release Josh, but he's also

851
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: a fifty nine million dollar cap hit next year, so

852
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: it's a huge chunk next year of the cap is

853
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: going right into Josh's pocket. And what you'll get that

854
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: money back because they'll give it to him as a bone.

855
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: They're not gonna cut him. They'll give it to him

856
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: as a bonus, and they'll get all that money back

857
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: on the cap and they'll be stretched over the next

858
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: ten years. So it's it's the cap is not the

859
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: concern for Buffalo, and I do not believe that the

860
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: window is closing at all. I think as long as

861
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: seventeen is the quarterback, Brandon Beans the GM, and Sean

862
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: mcdermot's the head coach and Terry Pegoula is the owner,

863
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there's the window is going

864
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: to close in the foreseeable future.

865
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: And even if you're looking at and saying, oh, gee,

866
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: twenty eight or twenty nine, five years, you know, four

867
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: or five seasons from now, I don't know if they'll

868
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: be as good.

869
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 2: The sailor cap is not going to be decreasing anytime soon.

871
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Speaker 2: So any of the percentage of cap for a James

872
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Speaker 2: Cook extension or Greg Russou or even Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Those will obviously go down.

874
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Speaker 2: And we've seen it the opposite in Dallas, where Jerry

875
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Speaker 2: Jones waits and waits and waits and waits, and then

876
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Speaker 2: he has to sign these guys for a lot higher

877
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Speaker 2: percentage of the cap after other deals come in. And secondly,

878
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Speaker 2: five years in the NFL is a long time for

879
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Speaker 2: the Bills to go from twenty twenty to now and

880
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Speaker 2: be a super Bowl contender. If they go another eight

881
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Speaker 2: you know, three years, eight years or nine years total

882
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Speaker 2: as being legitimate super Bowl contenders, that is extremely hard

883
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Speaker 2: to do in a major accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Steve Taster and Christaposso and One Bills Live represented by Clydehill.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back at the top of the hour. We've

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Speaker 1: got Jason McKee, who is the sideline radio reporter for

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Stay tuned. We have one quick segment

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Speaker 1: and then Jason McKee of the Bears will be right

889
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Speaker 1: back walking back to One Bills Alive. We're gonna go

890
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Speaker 1: back to the tweets sheet about what you want to

891
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Speaker 1: see from the Bills in this second preseason game in

892
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Speaker 1: Chicago against the Bears. Im Huffy just says, I want

893
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Speaker 1: to see third down defense improvement.

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Speaker 3: That was a big thing last year.

895
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We've been talking about it for months

896
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Speaker 1: and that there's really only one redeeming quality about the

897
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Speaker 1: defense last year, and it was its ability to get turnovers,

898
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Speaker 1: which is also a nod to how important that stat

899
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Speaker 1: is because it was the only thing they did well

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Speaker 1: and they got all the way to the AFC Championship. Now,

901
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Speaker 1: their offense was obviously elite, so that obviously helps. But

902
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, it's the only

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Speaker 1: thing they did.

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Speaker 3: They were They did not sacks. They just turned the

905
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Speaker 3: ball over better.

906
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Speaker 1: Than they got the ball back and that's huge. So yeah,

907
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Speaker 1: third down improvement will help from Brandy, says Mike White

908
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Speaker 1: to start at quarterback. Also a wide receiver four through six, four,

909
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Speaker 1: five and six back. Talk about that lights Hower also,

910
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that the next hour. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ray Davis, he wants see Ray Davis kicking out the

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Speaker 1: field goal? Ah yeah, why not?

913
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Speaker 3: Emergency kicker?

914
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Speaker 1: I was the emergency kicker.

915
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Speaker 3: Did you ever kick in a game?

916
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Speaker 1: No, not even a preseason game, which and looking back

917
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Speaker 1: on it, I'm like, why I should have done that?

918
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Speaker 2: But uh, like, did you feel as confident as seemingly

919
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Speaker 2: Ray Davis was in kicking? I mean from hard knocks,

920
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Speaker 2: he seemed like ready to go that he was pushing

921
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott to let him get well, that's a yeah.

922
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Speaker 3: No. Did you kick in high school?

923
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was all conference? Oh so yeah, okay,

924
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Speaker 1: and this just in too, because you know, have I

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Speaker 1: ever sounded older. I had a square toe straight on

926
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Speaker 1: Mark Moseley style. I was not a soccer player. It

927
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Speaker 1: was Mark Moseley's square toe shoe style.

928
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Speaker 3: Isn't he the MVP kicker?

929
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen eighty two was the MVP strike here.

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Speaker 3: The league has come a long way since that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was but I was Yeah, it was

932
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Speaker 1: all conference. Yeah so as a high school What about

933
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Speaker 1: in college?

934
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Speaker 2: No?

935
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Speaker 1: No, no, not even Oh and that's not true. I

936
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Speaker 1: did kick in junior college.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so if they ever needed if and we didn't.

938
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Speaker 1: We rarely kicked field goals either, so yeah, yeah, so

939
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Speaker 1: that was the emergency.

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Speaker 3: Steve Christy was never hurt. I mean I don't remember him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody was ever hurt.

942
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Speaker 3: None of those guys ever got Yeah, they just played

943
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Speaker 3: through stuff anyway.

944
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh well that's all right though. But he got kick.

945
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Speaker 1: It would be fun, all right, we got we got

946
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Speaker 1: a caller on the line, Dan from Rochester. Dan, what's

947
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Speaker 1: going on? What do you think about this Bears preseason game?

948
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Speaker 8: I think it's the defense.

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Speaker 5: Steve and Chris. You do a great job.

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Speaker 9: Chris, by the way, thank you, and uh hey, Chris,

951
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Speaker 9: could I.

952
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Speaker 8: Ask another question.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

954
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Speaker 8: I was watching First Take today.

955
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Speaker 9: They want to know if if Dermer doesn't knock the

956
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Speaker 9: door down, in other words, go all the way, let's

957
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Speaker 9: be his last year.

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Speaker 3: I go ahead, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: In that, I mean you could put some type of

960
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Speaker 2: label on where he needs to get. Do they need

961
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Speaker 2: to get back to an AFC title game? Do they

962
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Speaker 2: need to get all the way to the super Bowl?

963
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Speaker 2: Win a Super Bowl? I think it's fair to say

964
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Speaker 2: that they do have to go pretty far in the

965
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Speaker 2: playoffs that if they, like don't even make the playoffs

966
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Speaker 2: or lose at home in the wild card, that would

967
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Speaker 2: be a pretty big stain on what has been a

968
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Speaker 2: lot of frustration on his resume in the playoffs. But

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Speaker 2: I think, and I think the Sabers kind of tie

970
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Speaker 2: in here, all of the turnover that Pagoula has dealt

971
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Speaker 2: with with the Sabers and then the whole Doug Morone

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Speaker 2: directs Ryan Fiascoes. To have the stability that he's had,

973
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Speaker 2: and the GM and head coach being in lockstep, it

974
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Speaker 2: would have to take a lot for Sean.

975
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Speaker 3: McDermott to not come.

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Speaker 1: It will take more than a playoff loss to put

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Speaker 1: him in check. But it would take missing the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and not only just missing the playoffs, but missing him

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Speaker 1: badly and by a mile to do that, and with

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Speaker 1: no reasonable expect explanation, like no like John Major and

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Speaker 1: Josh Starts, the whole thing goes. It would take something

982
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Speaker 1: like them for them to reevaluate that. So if that happens, yeah,

983
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Speaker 1: maybe he will be on the hot seat. But if

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Speaker 1: they go into the playoffs, and even if they lose

985
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Speaker 1: a game wildcard game, yeah he's not going anywhere. I

986
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Speaker 1: don't think they've got big And obviously there's a lot

987
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Speaker 1: of sixtenuay. You know, we don't know what that would

988
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Speaker 1: look like, you know, whether the game got stolen or

989
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Speaker 1: whatever whatever, or they get thumped by a wildcard team

990
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Speaker 1: as a division champion, or maybe they get thumped as

991
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Speaker 1: a wildcard team just getting into the playoffs. Uh you know,

992
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Speaker 1: there's a I think they've got a wide landing area

993
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Speaker 1: here for having a down year for whatever reason. And

994
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Speaker 1: uh so I don't think that's I agree, I don't

995
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Speaker 1: think that's really on the tape. We're gonna take a

996
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Speaker 1: break when we come back. Jason McKee, the sideline reporter

997
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Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears, played nine season in the National

998
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Speaker 1: Football League, seven with the Bears. The Bills are in

999
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Speaker 1: Chicago for joint practices starting tomorrow. We're gonna take a break,

1000
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Speaker 1: come back with Jason McKee of the Bears. Right after

1001
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Speaker 1: this Steve Taster Christapasso on Buffalo Bills Radio. And you

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Speaker 1: are listening to One Bill's Live. This One Bills Live

1003
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Speaker 1: presented by Calida Health. Welcome back to One Bill's Life.

1004
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: Steve Taster and Christopasso here with you. We are talking

1005
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Speaker 1: about the Bears preseason game where the Buffalo Bills have

1006
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Speaker 1: just gone to Chicago for a joint practice session with

1007
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Speaker 1: the Bears. And to help us dive into that is

1008
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Speaker 1: the sideline reporter for the Bears broadcast on radio. We

1009
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Speaker 1: played nine seasons in the National Football League, seven of

1010
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Speaker 1: those with the Bears, fullback Jason McKee. Jason, thanks so

1011
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: much for joining us, giving us a couple of minutes.

1012
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Speaker 1: I guess the first thing out of the block is,

1013
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Speaker 1: you know, this is the second week in a row

1014
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Speaker 1: where the Bears have had joint practices with their opponent

1015
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Speaker 1: for the preseason game. They did it last week I

1016
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Speaker 1: think with the Dolphins. Right, how did that go? And yes,

1017
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Speaker 1: what has what has Ben Johnson said about you know,

1018
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Speaker 1: why he thinks this is important, why it's such a

1019
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: big deal for him in his first year as head coach.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that Dolphins practice, it was it was intense, and

1021
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Speaker 10: it was a great opportunity for you know, a Chicago

1022
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Speaker 10: Bears team that had a obviously a dismal season last

1023
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Speaker 10: year and the new leadership with a bunch of different coaches,

1024
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Speaker 10: to get an opportunity to go up against somebody different.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 10: Ben Johnson has stated that he was excited about the

1027
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Speaker 10: joint practice, especially with the starters, because he had an

1028
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Speaker 10: opportunity to get them guys a lot of reps. He

1029
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Speaker 10: had an opportunity to practice situational football and accumulate a

1030
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Speaker 10: lot of reps. In particular Williams. You know, yes, he

1031
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Speaker 10: hasn't played in the preseason, but he said he felt

1032
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Speaker 10: like he got more reps throughout that joint practice, but

1033
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Speaker 10: also the workout that they held before the actual preseason game.

1034
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Speaker 10: He would have accumulated more reps than he would have

1035
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Speaker 10: if he had played in the preseason game. So he

1036
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Speaker 10: was excited about that, you know, having that opportunity to

1037
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Speaker 10: just continue to get those guys reps. To help them

1038
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Speaker 10: understand and have a firm grasp of what the expectations

1039
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Speaker 10: are on all three phases you know of this football team.

1040
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Speaker 2: Jason perfect segue. They're talking about Kayla Williams. I was

1041
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Speaker 2: going to start with Williams. Anyway, give us just whether

1042
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: it's broad strokes or very specific. How have you evaluated

1043
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in year two? I mean overall his rookie

1044
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Speaker 2: season was probably labeled as a disappointment. He did have

1045
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Speaker 2: twenty touchdowns, only six picks held the ball maybe a

1046
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Speaker 2: little bit too long. Have you seen anything that looks

1047
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Speaker 2: notable with the impact of someone as creative as Ben

1048
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Speaker 2: Johnson has been on Caleb Williams just in the first

1049
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Speaker 2: month of training camping into the preseason.

1050
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's tough, you know, it's it's he's had his

1051
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Speaker 10: moments and where he's slashed, you know, his playmaking ability

1052
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Speaker 10: that landed him to beat a number one overall pick

1053
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Speaker 10: because he has Physically he has a skill set that

1054
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Speaker 10: not a lot of quarterbacks have, but a lot of

1055
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Speaker 10: quarterbacks would want, you know, being able to extend plays,

1056
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Speaker 10: being able to get out of the pocket, being able

1057
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Speaker 10: to throw from different platforms. He created on his own

1058
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Speaker 10: but also having the ability to play within the pocket,

1059
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Speaker 10: play within the structure, to play within the timing of

1060
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Speaker 10: an offense.

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Speaker 5: So he's also had his downs. He's throwing a few picks.

1062
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Speaker 10: He hasn't looked good, But I think the downs are

1063
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Speaker 10: you know, caused by him learning a new offense. So

1064
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Speaker 10: essentially he's still a rookie again, not only him, but

1065
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Speaker 10: even the vets on this team, they're all rookies because

1066
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Speaker 10: they're learning a new Ben Johnson Chicago Bear flavored offense. So,

1067
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Speaker 10: you know, Ben Johnson has stated that this offense is

1068
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Speaker 10: going to be different from the Detroit Lions. He stated

1069
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Speaker 10: that he's going to you know, strip this thing down

1070
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Speaker 10: to the studs. He's going to base this offense based

1071
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Speaker 10: upon the personality has here in Chicago and not the

1072
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Speaker 10: one that he had to Detroit. So I think all

1073
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Speaker 10: of these guys are going through growing pains. You know,

1074
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Speaker 10: we've seen Caleb have trouble with the verbiage, right, the

1075
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Speaker 10: play calls, the structure of the plays, the play calls

1076
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Speaker 10: get long at times, they get worthy. There's a lot

1077
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Speaker 10: of formations of shifts within this offense, and I think

1078
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Speaker 10: some of the guys have had trouble with that, you know,

1079
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Speaker 10: to start off training camp. But they're making steps, and

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Speaker 10: not just Caleb, but everybody's accumulating reps in particular on

1081
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Speaker 10: an offense to help get this Ben Johnson's system down.

1082
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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson has said already that Caleb's going to

1083
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Speaker 1: play in this game. And I don't know that that

1084
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Speaker 1: will affect the practice. The joint practice will probably take

1085
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: a ton of rips in the practice because it's it's

1086
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: finger quotes. It's a safer environment because it's thud. But

1087
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: in the game, yeah, what do you I mean, what

1088
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: do you expect? A series of two a quarter has

1089
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: been Johnson clarified that at all.

1090
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 5: He has not clarified it.

1091
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 10: He came out of this press conference yesterday and said

1092
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 10: that all the guys who didn't play in preseason Game

1093
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 10: one will play, So that would be pretty much majority

1094
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 10: of the offensive starters. The only the only well can't

1095
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 10: call him a starter, but the only guy who was

1096
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 10: a starter last year that played in preseason game one

1097
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 10: was Braxton Jones. And he's in a heated battle right

1098
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 10: now with with Ozzie Trapilo, the second round draft pick

1099
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 10: out of Boston College. So you know, you're gonna see

1100
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 10: Dj Moore, You're gonna see Romo Dunes that, You're going

1101
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 10: to see Deon Trace Swift, you're gonna see Cole Komet

1102
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 10: guys who just got a workout prior to the preseason

1103
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 10: game on the field that didn't get any live preseason rep.

1104
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure how long the starters will play.

1105
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 10: I'm sure there'll be more clarity with that that'll come

1106
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 10: from Bill Ben Johnson as we closer to kickoff, but

1107
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 10: right now he has not made a statement in terms

1108
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 10: of how long these guys will play.

1109
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: All right, Jason, I'm a draft guy at heart, so

1110
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about some young players that

1111
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: Kayler Williams is going to be throwing the football to.

1112
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: First.

1113
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: You can be quick here, Roman Dunes.

1114
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned that everyone's kind of learning this

1115
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: new offense, having some growing pains, any strides that you've

1116
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: noticed from him, and how are the training camps for

1117
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: their first two packs. But I think flashy selections for

1118
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams, Colston Lovelin, the tight end that they picked

1119
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: in the first round out of Michigan, and someone who

1120
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: I absolutely loved, Luther Burden, the wide receiver second round

1121
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: pick from Missouri.

1122
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 3: How have they played and acclimated?

1123
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Speaker 2: Are these players that the Bears are going to be

1124
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: leaning on relatively early in their careers, or because of

1125
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: the presence of Cole come At and DJ Moore and

1126
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: Roman Donze, they may be later in their rookie seasons.

1127
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: There more next year type of contributors to this offense.

1128
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll start with Rome And I know he was

1129
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 10: obviously not drafted this past year, but you mentioned Rome.

1130
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 10: He's a guy who's made big plays every single day

1131
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 10: in camp. You know, a guy who's been six consistent,

1132
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 10: a guy who seems like he's getting rady to take

1133
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 10: the next step and it's really going to benefit from

1134
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 10: a Ben Johnson offense. And you know he he's a

1135
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 10: guy who with the Bears are really harping on to

1136
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 10: be that other guy, you know, alongside Dj Moore. And

1137
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 10: I think we're going to see that from a Romo

1138
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 10: Dunes in this offense this year.

1139
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 5: And we talk about.

1140
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 10: Luther Burd and Luther Burd having his hiccups, He's had

1141
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 10: his rookie bumps in the road that any rookie would

1142
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 10: have in terms of learning an offense, understanding the man

1143
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 10: the demands of an NFL offense.

1144
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 5: You know, I think it's a lot different than what

1145
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 5: he played under there in Missouri.

1146
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 10: I think obviously the verbide and the formations and him

1147
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 10: having to do a lot of things that he didn't

1148
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 10: do in Missouri is really getting to him.

1149
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 5: But when given opportunities, he has made some plays.

1150
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 10: You know, he converted a big third down conversion in

1151
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 10: the preseason game against the Dolphins, and and you know,

1152
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 10: when Ben Johnson talks about him, he says, yes, he's

1153
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 10: inconsistent in terms of being able to line up properly,

1154
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 10: but he says, with the ball in his hands, he's

1155
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 10: everything we thought he could be at more.

1156
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 5: So, there's a lot of excitement about Luther Burton.

1157
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 10: And you know, just with Coason levelin, you know, I've

1158
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 10: had an opportunity just to see him, you know, make

1159
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 10: play after play at practice.

1160
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 5: He's actually bigger than I thought he was.

1161
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 10: He's a big, physical, strong tight end that could run

1162
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 10: the entire route tree. Looks like he has smooth hands,

1163
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 10: and I think he's gonna be a real mismatched problem

1164
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 10: in the nightmare for defenses, in particular in the red zone.

1165
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 10: So I know Ben Johnson's excited about having an extra weapon. Uh,

1166
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 10: with Coast and Lovelin in the fold.

1167
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: Now with this offense, what do you what are the

1168
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: early returns on Ben Johnson? Certainly he had some work

1169
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: to do coming in and the Bears are uh, you know,

1170
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: trying to turn over the culture yet again with a

1171
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: new head coach. What are the early returns on Ben Johnson?

1172
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: How he has he handled it? What are the media is?

1173
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: What's the media and the fans opinion about him thus far?

1174
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: I know it's early.

1175
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's funny, it's it's you know, coming in, you know,

1176
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 10: like Ben Ben Johnson has stated throughout you know, various

1177
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 10: press conferences. Right now, we're in the hunting moon stage,

1178
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 10: you know, and Bears fans obviously love Ben Johnson, The

1179
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 10: media loves Ben Johnson. Us a different feel around Hallas Hall.

1180
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 10: The level of intensity has picked up. You know, the

1181
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 10: way he's run his training camp practices has been night

1182
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 10: and day. You know, there's been guys, I mean there's

1183
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 10: been guys getting tackled in seven on seven periods, which.

1184
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 5: Is unheard of.

1185
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 10: You know, there's a lot more live periods, a lot

1186
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 10: more physicality brought to this practice. Environment, and you know,

1187
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 10: I think Ben Johnson and his coaching staff have done

1188
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 10: a really good job of holding these players to a

1189
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 10: high level of accountability and nobody's off limits. I've seen

1190
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 10: a blat cole Comet. He's yelled at Dj Moore. You know,

1191
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 10: nobody's above the team. You make a mistake, you're going

1192
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 10: to be held accountable and you know you're going to

1193
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 10: have to bring correction about it.

1194
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: So I think that seeing that that type of that standard, that.

1195
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 10: Type of culture that's beginning to build here it up

1196
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 10: up at Hallas Hall is really refreshing from not just

1197
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 10: Bears fans, but from also media as well.

1198
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: Jason, I want to switch gears to the defensive side. Really,

1199
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 2: the secondary in Chicago is almost intact from the group

1200
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: that it was last year. But up front with Grady

1201
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: Jared and Dale o'dangbo, where the two big signees in March.

1202
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: How has the I mean again, you can't really see

1203
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: a lot. They're not hitting Kayleb Williams in practice, but

1204
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 2: the defensive front, which seemed to be kind of an issue.

1205
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: They have some younger pieces at defensive tackle two behind

1206
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: those veterans. How is the defensive line looked in preseason

1207
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: and certainly in July in training camp.

1208
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of those starters.

1209
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 10: You know, we didn't see greatly Jared, we didn't see

1210
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 10: Montest Swett, we didn't see Dalo at Dingbo in week one.

1211
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 10: In in the joint practice though, the defense looked really well.

1212
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 10: They flew around. I felt like they got the better

1213
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 10: of the Miami Dolphins offense. I felt they played with

1214
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 10: a higher level of intensity and physicality.

1215
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 8: Uh.

1216
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 10: You know, one of the young guys that shigned in

1217
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 10: the first preseason game was Austin Booker. You know, guy

1218
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 10: that had three sacks in that game, and not just

1219
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 10: three sacks, just the way he got those sacks. You know,

1220
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 10: he showed a variety of different moves. He showed, you know,

1221
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 10: the ability to have a great first step getting off

1222
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 10: the ball. He showed he has the abilities to bull

1223
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 10: rush and displace a tackle and get to the quarterback

1224
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 10: as well. So, you know, I know that was a

1225
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 10: pleasant surprise for the Bears. You know, obviously he's a

1226
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 10: guy they drafted and had high hopes for. But I

1227
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 10: don't think you know, what they saw in preseason game one.

1228
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 10: I didn't think there was gonna see that big of

1229
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 10: a jump from Austin Booker. So it'll be interesting to see,

1230
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 10: you know, how he fares against you know, some of

1231
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 10: the better tackles that the Buffalo Bills have. You see

1232
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 10: how he plays in this preseason game, and how he fares,

1233
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 10: you know, in the joint practice that's going to take

1234
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 10: place tomorrow.

1235
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: How has Tremaine Edmonds in his third year coming in

1236
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: He's a former first round pick of the Buffalo Bills

1237
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: left in free ag. He's been there now coming into

1238
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: his third year. Is this you know, is he kind

1239
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: of this next centerpiece of the defense like the Bears

1240
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: always had that that that middle linebacker who's nine feet tall,

1241
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: and certainly Tremaine fits that. That description. Give us an

1242
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: idea about the old Buffalo Bill who's in the middle

1243
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: of that defense.

1244
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, Dennis Allen's has raved about Tremaine Edmonds, you know,

1245
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 10: in particular obviously he's got the size, he's got the lank,

1246
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 10: he's got the speed that the Bear's covet on defense,

1247
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 10: and he fits that mold. And you know he's made

1248
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 10: some really big plays. He had a great interception against

1249
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 10: Tua Tago vi law and you know, the joint practice

1250
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 10: down in the red zone, and it just seems like

1251
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 10: he's playing a lot faster, playing with more confidence, and

1252
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 10: it seems like he's in a system that's going to

1253
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 10: actually let him use his ability but also the skill

1254
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 10: sets that he has to go make plays. So really

1255
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 10: excited about him. I think, you know him and TJ Edwards.

1256
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 5: TJ.

1257
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 10: Edwards had a great year last year, but I think

1258
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 10: those two guys with the emergence of Noah Sue who's

1259
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 10: really played well throughout training camp but also had another

1260
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 10: great preseason game, you know, against the Dolphins, and I

1261
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 10: know he's looking forward to building upon that. But I

1262
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 10: think when you have that collection of linebackers that have

1263
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 10: that type of athleticism but also the physicality that it

1264
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 10: can bring to that position, you know, I think the

1265
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 10: Bears will be in good shape there.

1266
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people here in Bill's Country that

1267
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: are really looking forward to seeing some Bills young defensive

1268
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: tackles continue to generate pressure like they did in the

1269
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: first preseason game against an interior offensive line. The Bears

1270
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: made some major moves up front in the offseason on

1271
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: their offensive line, Joe Toney signing Drew Dolman, trading for

1272
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: Jonah Jackson. Again, maybe this is too early to get

1273
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: a real sense from you, but how has the overall

1274
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: reinvestment in the offensive line look? And are we going

1275
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: to see some of these new faces that are veterans

1276
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: up front in this second preseason game.

1277
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, You're definitely gonna see those guys.

1278
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 10: You know, like Ben Johnson said, everybody, you know, the

1279
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 10: guys who didn't play in preseason one are going to.

1280
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: Play in this game.

1281
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 10: And Drew Dalman, Joe Toney, Jonah Jackson, the guard they

1282
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 10: brought from US Saint Louis, he's a guy.

1283
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 5: None of those guys played in preseason one.

1284
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 10: So when you look at the talent that they've brought

1285
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 10: in Viga free agency, you look at not just from

1286
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 10: a talent standpoint in terms of they got better on

1287
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 10: the interior, but in terms of a leadership standpoint and

1288
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 10: guys who understand what winning looks like. You know, you

1289
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 10: talk about a guy like Joe Tooney, who's had who's

1290
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 10: played under great quarterbacks. He was there, you know, Kansas

1291
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 10: City with Patrick Mahomes when Super Bowl rings there. He

1292
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 10: understands what success looks like and what a winning environment

1293
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 10: and organizations should look like. So he's got to be

1294
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 10: a culture builder in that locker room. You bring in

1295
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 10: Drew Dalman, a center who has high promise, but also

1296
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 10: a veteran guy that can help Kayleab make some of

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Speaker 10: the checks or can help him see things that the

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Speaker 10: defenses are trying to do or the way defenses are

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Speaker 10: trying to attack this offense that a young rookie like

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Speaker 10: Kayla Williams may not have seen yet. You talk about

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Speaker 10: jo and the Jackson and right guard, another guy who's

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Speaker 10: had a lot of experience but played well when he

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Speaker 10: was in Detroit under Ben Johnson had his best year,

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Speaker 10: So that in Tiar has definitely got better. I think

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Speaker 10: that that group is starting to jail more. The biggest

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Speaker 10: question is that left tackle. You know, who's going to

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Speaker 10: be the starter. You know, Braxon Jones' is beginning reps.

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Speaker 10: Ozzie Trappilo's beginning reps reps. They just brought in a guy,

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Speaker 10: an undrafted free agent named Theo Bennett that they brought

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Speaker 10: in as an undrafted phrasing last year. Took reps with

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Speaker 10: the first team yesterday and then took reps at right

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Speaker 10: tackle with the second team yesterday. So you know, offensive

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Speaker 10: line coach Dan Rushar has done a good job. I

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Speaker 10: think of cross training as linemen to try to get

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Speaker 10: ready for different variables and scenarios that may pop up

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Speaker 10: throughout the season. But I think he's trying to find

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Speaker 10: the right mix the right five right now, and in

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Speaker 10: particular it's that left tackle position. Because we know the

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Speaker 10: center is going to be, we know the left guard

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Speaker 10: and the right guard is going to be, we know

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Speaker 10: the right tackle is going to be.

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Speaker 5: But the only variable left to be answered is going

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Speaker 5: to be at that left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Jason McKee, thanks so much for spending some time with us.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, keep your head on a swell. Don't get

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Speaker 1: hit on the sidelines now you're down there on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: just you know, make sure you stay safe.

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Speaker 10: All right, manson Now, I appreciate you guys, looking forward

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Speaker 10: to seeing you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: On you bet take care. Jason McKee sidelined reporter for

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Speaker 1: the Bears broadcast Tom Thayer. The old guard is the

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Speaker 1: has been doing it for twenty nine years in the

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Speaker 1: booth for them, and now Jason McKee is on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: It's it will be interesting. Chicago Stadium is it's a

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Speaker 1: really nice stadium. One of the newer stadiums. They built

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Speaker 1: it up out of the old Soldier Field and right

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Speaker 1: on the water. Yeah, it's right on the water. It's

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Speaker 1: a great spot the Bills. It's gonna be interesting for

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Speaker 1: me to see because Caleb Williams got a really unique

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Speaker 1: skill set. Yeah he can. He saw some of the

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Speaker 1: highlights that you just got everything he's got to He

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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: can rip it and he can run. He's accurate. He

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Speaker 1: he just looks like an NFL quarterback and you can

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Speaker 1: understand why the Bears wanted him coming out of USC.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what Ben Johnson does with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one question that if we had

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Speaker 2: a little bit more time I would have asked Jason,

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Speaker 2: how much are we going to see? Are we going

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Speaker 2: to see Vanilla? I'm not showing anything or what I

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Speaker 2: think he'll most likely do. Ben Johnson is like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is a chance before the game's count for us

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Speaker 2: to run our I don't want to say trick plays,

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Speaker 2: but run as intricate of an offense as we can. Because,

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Speaker 2: like Jason mentioned, everyone, not just Caleb Williams, even Roman Dunesay,

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Speaker 2: even DJ Moore. They're learning new verbiage, new Hey, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna motion and shift a lot more than we ever have.

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Speaker 2: So I think we will see more game planning ish

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Speaker 2: type stuff from the Bears.

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Speaker 1: In the Yeah, they're playing against playing against the MVP,

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Speaker 1: and you want your guy to look good to you,

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Speaker 1: and you're a new head coach in a town that

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Speaker 1: has it's been a minute since they've been any good.

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Speaker 3: Since they've had a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Ever, they've never had a quarterback. Even McMahon will tell you,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was rough. It's always been rough for

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: They do not have a four thousand yard passer.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I think the Bears are going to put a

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Speaker 1: lot of eggs in the basket of this preseason games.

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Speaker 1: I would expect the Bears to really give it an

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Speaker 1: effort to look good. So you know, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to get their doors blown off,

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Speaker 1: but Josh will probably played seven snaps and whatever happens.

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Speaker 3: At Sunday night it's national audience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna want to look good. So, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: could be one of those ugly games preseason games. It's like,

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Speaker 1: why don't we do something? And we don't because that's

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Speaker 1: not our modus operandi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think five straight AFC East titles prove that.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why they want to look good. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: look good against this team, They're gonna get ale extra

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Speaker 1: benefit from it.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that, like, the Bills get

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a pass if they don't look

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Speaker 2: spectacular in the preseason based on how accomplished they've been

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Speaker 2: during the Sean McDermot and Brandon bean Era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see. I mean, that's it remains to

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Speaker 1: be seen, but I think it's it's all well and good.

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Speaker 1: I'm you and I were going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the guys and evaluate the receiving corps

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Speaker 1: and the offense that coming into this game for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Going into this against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna kind of answer the question that we pose

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Speaker 2: to the audience, who are we looking forward?

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Speaker 3: What expectations do we have for some of these young.

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Speaker 1: Players, particularly down the roster this And we had one

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Speaker 1: of our tweets that you know, I want to see

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Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, and sixth wide out. I want to

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Speaker 1: see that's gonna be and it is a fascinating thing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna talk about it and I guess

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Speaker 1: we could. We'll talk about that after the break. Until

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Speaker 1: we get to the break. Let's let's go to Tim

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Speaker 1: in West Senega. Tim. No, I'm not sorry. That's not right. Tim.

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Speaker 1: Are you on there?

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Speaker 2: There?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Tim, Tim is not there. I think I

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Speaker 1: might have missed that. Tim, All right, let's try. Let's

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Speaker 1: try Dave David Are you there, David in I'm here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. What's your question? Uh? Well, I actually had.

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Speaker 11: A one statement I wanted to make is uh not

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Speaker 11: necessarily just for this game, but I I love Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 11: I think the guy's amazing. Every time he touches the ball,

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Speaker 11: he makes something happen. And I think if I was

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Speaker 11: making the depth chart, he's number two on my depth

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Speaker 11: chart for running backs. And uh, I want to see

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Speaker 11: him get a lot more touches in the regular season.

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Speaker 11: The thing I'm most concerned about is the same thing

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Speaker 11: I was concerned about last year with our defense, is

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Speaker 11: how bad they were at stopping the screen pass. We

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Speaker 11: saw it last week against the Giants. I'm not just

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Speaker 11: because they were so bad last week, but they were

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Speaker 11: bad all last year and that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 11: why they were so bad on third down, and Bobby

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Speaker 11: Babbage and Sean McDermott have to figure out a way

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Speaker 11: to keep these teams from gashing us with these screen passes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll agree with that too, And thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call, Dave. I appreciated that that is true, and

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of thoughts on why that may

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Speaker 1: be the case. And we can talk. Well, we may

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Speaker 1: as well talk about a for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: right now. You wrote a nice article about the missing

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Speaker 1: ingredient to the Bills offense, and I was interested because

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Speaker 1: you know, they were so prolific offensively. Is there a

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Speaker 1: missing ingredient? You brought it up, and you're right, it

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Speaker 1: was screen passes. The Bills don't run them. They do

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: not run them, and they gashed offensively by them. I've

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Speaker 1: got thoughts about both of those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yours so at Trapsheet, which you can subscribe to

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Speaker 3: for free. Right now. It's the final missing piece. I

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Speaker 3: wrote it end of July.

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Speaker 2: If you look since twenty twenty and then any year

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: after this, so twenty twenty twenty one all the way

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: up until this year, the Bills have called the fewest

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: screenplays to running backs of any team in the NFL.

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty, they've run seventy six running back screens

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Speaker 2: during the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Last year alone, the Buccaneers led the league with fifty

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Speaker 2: five running back screens. So in five years, the Buccaneers

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: got close to where the Bills have been, and they

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: have not been good defending it, and they have not

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: been good utilizing it. And you have these backs in

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Speaker 2: a James Cook now, who's making a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: He came out of the league. He was kind of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's mostly a pass catcher. Ty Johnson. We saw

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Speaker 2: him in Detroit. You mentioned it earlier, went over one

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: hundred yards. He can catch the football, so Conray Davis.

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Speaker 2: So I think I don't know what's for sure, but

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Speaker 2: I think there are two points of emphasis. We've heard

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen say, Hey, one year I want to work

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: on inbreaking routes, and next year's down.

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Speaker 3: The field, whatever it.

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Speaker 2: I think the two biggest priorities schematically for Joe Brady

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Speaker 2: and for Bobby Babbage are stopping the screen and maybe

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Speaker 2: utilizing this screen with his good offensive line, with these

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Speaker 2: past catching running.

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Speaker 1: I'll rebuttal to that after this break we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break. I've got some thoughts on the Bill's offense

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Speaker 1: running screens and the Bill's defense facing the screen pass

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Speaker 1: from their opponents. They got gashed again last week against

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Speaker 1: the Giants. By that, I've got some thoughts on why

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Speaker 1: that happens and what they can do about. Is Steve

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Speaker 1: Task for Christapasso. We'll be back after the break. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to One Bills Live, presented by Colida Health, and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Ring. Welcome back to One Bill's Life.

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Speaker 1: Steve Task for Trepasso. We're talking about the Bills. We

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: asked you what you want to see out of this

1480
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: Bears game, and we've been taking phone calls all day.

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm even give you the number. It's eight with three

1482
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty eighty

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01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty for people outside the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo area, and of course it is eighted with three

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: oh five fifty for those inside. I guess we got

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Speaker 1: enough regular callers. I didn't have to give the number out.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any so.

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01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: We're talking about too. Then everybody notices this. The Bills

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01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: got gashed on some screenplays last week against the Giants,

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01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: and they don't run the screens very well. So it's

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: it's this weird thing that's been happening. I've had this

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01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: this theory for well since the year's you did the

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: last handful of years with Josh. One of the reasons

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01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: I think the Bills struggled to run and be successful

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01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: with screens is Josh dropped back four hundred and eighty

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: three times last year. That's not that many, but it's

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost five hundred times. He got sacked fourteen.

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Speaker 1: That's so you can't sack him. It was a ridiculous number.

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Speaker 1: It's the most, the least number of sacks he's taken

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Speaker 1: in any year in his career. Second only two years

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: ago when he got sacked twenty four. You just can't

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01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: get to the guy. One of the reasons for that

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: is his athleticism, obviously his speed and is the way

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: he gets away, his arm strength, all the stuff he does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy once held off Aaron Donald by

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: the face mask, pushed him off and you know, two

1507
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: plays later took the penalty for a face mask and

1508
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: two plays later through the touchdown pass to beat the

1509
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Rams in twenty twenty. I mean, so the guy is

1510
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: hard to get at. So teams do things differently to

1511
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's quarterback than any other quarterback, meaning they

1512
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: don't run outside inside stunts. They're ox stunts or ax stunts.

1513
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: None of that stuff is going on when Josh is

1514
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: in the pocket, because if they start to cross defensive

1515
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: lineman trying to stunt and fool the offensive lineman, Josh

1516
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: dip steps through the gap and is running down the

1517
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: field for a first down, they're rushing in their lanes

1518
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: straight ahead, trying to keep Josh right in the pocket

1519
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: and just squeeze it down enough. Somebody gets a hand

1520
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: on him, tries to get a handful of jersey and

1521
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: pull him down. That's strategy for Josh. But when you're

1522
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: rushing that way, you're really not susceptible to the screen

1523
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: game like other teams are. If the running back's there

1524
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: and it's man coverage, the backers just snugging up, snugging up.

1525
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: There's no traffic going across, there's no defensive lineman looping

1526
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: around in front for people to get lost in the traffic.

1527
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: It's all right in front of them. So it's it's hard,

1528
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: it's hard to execute a screen pass when the defense

1529
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: is really kind of looking for the quarterback to move

1530
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: around and do something crazy, they're antenna up.

1531
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: Conversely, let's hear it on defense here.

1532
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: The Bills don't rush the pass are all that well,

1533
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: and they're doing all kinds of that stuff, and they're

1534
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: trying everything they can to get to the quarterback for

1535
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: a change. Right, They're trying. They're sending an extra guy,

1536
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: they're looping their ends, they're doing they're trying to penetrate

1537
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,919
Speaker 1: with their defensive tackles. They're trying to get a windspring

1538
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. They are trying because they it's so

1539
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: hard for them to get pressure, particularly with four guys.

1540
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: And when you're doing that, you're not thinking about it.

1541
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about catching the running back on the

1542
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: way out and chipping them or whatever. And to be

1543
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: very honest, I think they leave themselves open to the

1544
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: screen pass. And plus the fact that they always have

1545
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: those two a lot of times they'll have two deep safeties.

1546
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: They like to keep a lid on it and make

1547
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: every keep everything in front of them because they know

1548
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: their offense is going to score points and if they

1549
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: don't give up big plays, they're they're asking for it.

1550
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: So you know, if that running back releases out to

1551
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: the flat a little quirky, they're not really interested. They'll

1552
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: let them catch that, and they're dropping back to keep

1553
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: a lid on it, so they leave themselves open to

1554
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: the screen pass. So I think that's two ways both

1555
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: for you and against you offensively and defensively. It makes

1556
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: it tough.

1557
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: It starts off front, and that makes a lot of

1558
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,959
Speaker 2: sense that. I mean, those two things are are polar opposites,

1559
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: and it does makes sense when when Josh Allen is

1560
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: your quarterback that you're right, teams are almost sitting back

1561
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: and hey, we're not going to do anything crazy. We

1562
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: don't want Josh Allen to break off a forty yard

1563
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: run on.

1564
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: Think about it. If you're watching the Bills play their

1565
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: defense play and they all Ed Oliver and Russeau snap

1566
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: through the line of scrimmage, you're going like, oh yeah,

1567
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: it's like you're kind of secretly we're all thinking finally, right,

1568
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: like we got them finally, and it's like, oh, they

1569
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: wanted us to scre that. It's a screen pass. It's

1570
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: that kind of mentality Sometimes when you get there, it's

1571
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: like ah Man, we thought, you know, for the first time,

1572
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: we thought we really got some quick pressure and it

1573
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: was a ruse. So the screen passes, I mean, I

1574
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: was with you, well last week was like, oh gosh,

1575
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: another one. And they're all like fifteen yard plays, right,

1576
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: so they're called at the right time, their time perfectly.

1577
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: Teams execute them against the Bills at a high rate,

1578
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: and it's frustrating. It's frustrating.

1579
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: But maybe that could change on defense this year. And

1580
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure Brandon, if you're thinking this, I'm thinking it.

1581
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you kind of have like presented

1582
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: it to me here and it does. It's kind of

1583
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: like the light bulb going off. Brandon Bean has to

1584
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: know it. And I think maybe the additions of Michael Hoyt,

1585
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: Larry Ogunjobi and certainly Joey Bosa. He wants to be

1586
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: able to have his defensive line and get home with

1587
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: four so they don't have to be as complex and

1588
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: diverse with Taron Johnson blitzing and safeties blitzing and stunting

1589
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: like that, doing all those extra things, so they can

1590
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: be a little bit better and be aware and more

1591
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: concerned with those screens to be prepared for them.

1592
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: I will see it. May it may be true. I

1593
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: may be off my rocket, but it kind of makes

1594
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: sense to me, and the way I see it, it's

1595
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: always been a problem. We're going to take another phone

1596
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: call Aaron, and Oregon is in on the line. Aaron,

1597
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: how you doing, Thanks for calling. What's on your mind?

1598
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 9: I'm no great, Hey, I got a couple of things.

1599
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 9: But Steve, First, I kind of made a joke at

1600
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 9: your expense last time I called, and I want to

1601
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 9: let you know I am your biggest fand no word

1602
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 9: I call. I was calling Chris a legend and you're

1603
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 9: just some guy, but you were definitely a legend.

1604
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead, that's fine. I got thick skin, and I promise.

1605
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 9: I'm your biggest advocate for the Haull. But what I

1606
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 9: wanted to ask, because I'm in charge of my family

1607
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 9: budget and I'm always like, where's that money coming from?

1608
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 9: We signed James Cook? Where did we get the money

1609
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 9: to sign James Cook?

1610
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 1: Well, the extension doesn't come into a play until electer

1611
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: after this year is over. He still had this so

1612
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: y's this final year in this contract, so not much

1613
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: has changed, and in fact they actually got a little

1614
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: extra money on the on the cap by doing the

1615
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: deal the way they did.

1616
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 2: That's usually what happens with extensions that it the first

1617
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: and sometimes the second year of the extensions, the cap

1618
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: hits are pretty low.

1619
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 3: It's usually after year two into year three and four.

1620
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 2: If the deal is a four or a five year deal,

1621
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: that's when the cap number kind of balloons a little bit.

1622
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: But a lot of times teams will try to extend

1623
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: guys not just to get ahead of the rest of

1624
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: the market, but also to like lower a cap hit

1625
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: in that given year.

1626
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: Anything else you got, Aaron, Yeah, I wanted to just see.

1627
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 9: I've been loving hard Knocks, like you guys say. I've

1628
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 9: been lapping it up. I've been rubbing it on my face.

1629
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 9: I've been watching the you know, as soon as it

1630
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 9: comes out and then watching the podcast afterward. So I'm

1631
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 9: just wondering if you guys have been affected by it,

1632
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 9: or if you guys have seen it around, and how's

1633
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 9: it affecting one Bill's lives?

1634
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thanks for the call, Aaron, appreciate you. Yeah, nothing,

1635
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't affect me. Nobody wants to talk to me,

1636
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: so I'm not miked up or anything like that. But

1637
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: the crew and the crews. You can imagine they've been

1638
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: doing this for quite a few years now. It's a

1639
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: well oiled machine and one of the interesting things they do.

1640
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: And it sounds like a little thing, but it's it's not.

1641
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: It makes all the difference in the world. And their

1642
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: producer Nate Berdlissen did a story on these guys doing

1643
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: hard knocks on the bills right. He did it for

1644
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: the CBS Morning Show. And the interesting part about it

1645
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons they disappears because they all

1646
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: wear the color gear that the coaching staff and the

1647
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: training staff.

1648
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 3: I didn't really.

1649
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: They were the same gear, the same colors that everybody

1650
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: else wears. They blend. It's like Bill's people doing it,

1651
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: and that makes a lot of different use different It

1652
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: makes a lot of difference. They disappear inside all the crowds,

1653
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: inside the huddles, inside the crowds, on the sideline, the media.

1654
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: They look like Bill's people so fast.

1655
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: The players kind of like they're just they know they're there,

1656
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: they know they're there.

1657
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 2: But what we're getting on HBO Hard Knocks, which I

1658
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: think has been great through two episodes, been awesome, just

1659
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: all the different angles have been sweet, but it's pretty candid.

1660
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: They don't know, Like it's not if if you hear

1661
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: a funny kJ Handler and Tyrrell Shaver's conversation, it's not like, oh, hey,

1662
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: the Hard Knocks guys are behind us.

1663
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 3: They're recording this. They don't know and I was previously

1664
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: unaware of that.

1665
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: That's that's O k Ues. So it's one of the

1666
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: cool things they do. And they have been remarkably unintrusive,

1667
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: and it doesn't affect us all here here on One

1668
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live at all, And this is I mean, you

1669
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: can imagine every NFL team has got a whole wing

1670
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 1: of the building. We're part of one that's all content

1671
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, the website, Buffalo Bill's X platform, the

1672
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, the website, the whole thing. They've got people

1673
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: churning stuff out all the time, covering stuff. We got

1674
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: writers for the website, the whole thing. So we've got

1675
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: this own little media wing here in the building all

1676
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: the time anyway, and this just is just like one

1677
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: more you know, it's a cherry on top of the

1678
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 1: cake because they're churning out stuff all the time. Anyway.

1679
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 2: What I have really liked about it is and Brandon

1680
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: Bean was just on the podcast Taylor Lewan and Busting

1681
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: with the Boys. Will Compton was the other name I

1682
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: couldn't think of. I thought it was really fascinating. What

1683
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: he said too, is that he's like, hey, you know,

1684
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: at first, teams are like, I don't know if I

1685
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: want to be on this. You know, everything that happened

1686
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: with the Giants during the offseason one last year with

1687
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley stuff.

1688
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: But Brandon Bean then spun it into.

1689
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: A positive and said, We're actually really proud of our culture,

1690
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: the closeness of our of our team. That Joey Bosa

1691
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 2: made the mention that he's hung out with Bills players

1692
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: more in six weeks and he did in six years

1693
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: with the Chargers. That he's like, I'm glad that a

1694
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: national audience gets a behind the scenes peak at the

1695
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: like truly and can feel the culture that has been

1696
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: established and the impact that that culture has had on

1697
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: one of the most successful teams in the NFL.

1698
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. It's the way this season and

1699
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,480
Speaker 1: the way that the hard Knarcks comes. They are showcasing

1700
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: the culture a little bit for sure. And the one

1701
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: thing that's different a little bit about this season. And

1702
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't watch all the hard knocks, but when I

1703
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: do watch it, they try and trump up, they try

1704
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,839
Speaker 1: and pump up kind of the drama and the tension.

1705
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: I know where you're going, and there's no there is

1706
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: always dry, no drama. But now you got James Cook,

1707
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:08,879
Speaker 1: who's even I mean, there's like no big dark looming

1708
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: thing like.

1709
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 3: Quarterback ve coordinator fighting or anything.

1710
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: There's none of that going on. And we made the comment,

1711
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: We've been making the comment all the way through training

1712
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: camp that how well oiled a machine. It was over

1713
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher and now they come back. I mean

1714
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: it's just they're just going. I mean they're flying. So

1715
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: I think that has been something and I think Brandon

1716
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: Bean was right. It's a chance for people to get

1717
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Speaker 1: an idea of how it looks like when it's not dysfunctional.

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Speaker 2: And I was always of the belief and I'm still

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01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: I still kind of feel this way a little that

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: coaches always preached culture, culture, culture, and you would the

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01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: Bills said it for seventeen years when they weren't making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and it didn't it to me Like I

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: I in a way grew up with that that, Okay,

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01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: does culture really matter because the Bills are claiming they

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01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: want to have this great culture. What I really took

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: from Brandon Bean's comment is that there's everything, and I

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: talk about numbers all the time. We're in the analytics era.

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01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: Everyone can watch the All twenty two film now that

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01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: he was saying, like, we're showing like what the culture

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01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: can mean, and that it truly is a vital element

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01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: beyond Josh Allen, beyond the x's and o's and the

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: scouting and free agency. The culture to bring back players,

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01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: for guys to sign one year cheaper deals, to sign

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: cheaper extensions that are team friendly. The culture actually is

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 2: an integral part of why the Bills again have been

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01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: so accomplished over the last seven years.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more phone call before we

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Speaker 1: go to break here, and we have one last segment

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01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: after this one before we go to break. Let's take

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Speaker 1: Dale in Utah. Dale, thanks for calling. I know you're

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: out there out way out west. Give for what's on

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Speaker 1: your mind? Dale?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we got West coast best ghost again

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 4: in Utah. We representing nowt here. Actually, I'll be in

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01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 4: New York this weekend burying my dad's ashes. Oh my gosh,

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01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 4: my dad a huge, huge, huge Bills fan. And in fact,

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 4: we're planning on strinking some of his ashes a new stadium,

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 4: so that'll be kind of cool. Very nice, Steve, Steve,

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01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 4: if you don't, if you don't get into the Hall

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 4: for being the best special teamer ever, certainly for being

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01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 4: a contributor as a uh, you know, a color guy

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01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 4: for almost thirty years, but certainly the tasker plan has

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 4: to get you in at some point.

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Speaker 3: Right That's that's a resume right there.

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you're just stacking. You're stacking win, Steve, You're

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01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: stacking win. There you go. You know, uh, this weekend,

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Speaker 4: I really like to see James Cook, like you guys

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01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 4: talked about. I'd like to see him come out of

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 4: the backfield and catch some of these screen passes and

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01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 4: do what he was drafted to do. That was what

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01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 4: he was you know, celebrated to do, was to be

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01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 4: you know, active out of the backfield, and I'd like

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01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 4: to see him That's I'd like to see him obviously

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01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: stay healthy, but I would like to see him active

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 4: out of the backfield catching some swing passes.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, thanks for the call down. Condolences to you

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: and your I'm the loss of your father, but congrats

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01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: on your ability to come out and remember him one

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01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: last time here at bill Stadium. I appreciate that you're

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01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: not the only one I've heard that has had that

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01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: desire to do that. You're right, James Cook would be

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01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: that would be a nice little cherry on the cake

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: of the week. I do have talking to Jason McKee.

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01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: That's sideline report of the Bears just in the last

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01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: this last hour. You can go back and listen to it.

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01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: I really we've talked about this. I'm really starting to

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: think about what the Bears are thinking about this game.

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: There is no other preseason game where they want to

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01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: look better in than this one. I think they're gonna

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: come out, They're going to game plan, They're gonna make

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01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: sure Caleb Williams has some long balls, some easy completions.

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01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: I think the Bears really come out and try and

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: smack the Bills hard in the face to look good

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: on national TV. They're trying to shake a stigma of

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01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: a franchise that has been down. They have three teams

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01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: in that division with double digit wins and they stunk.

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01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: So they're the only team in that division, who's looking

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01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: around going man, you know. So I think they're gonna

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01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: come out game plan, give their players some tools that

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01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: will really be successful against what the Bills are gonna do. Basically, Yeah,

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: I think that you can count on that.

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01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: And I'll quickly say in general, I am the biggest

1794
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: advocate for like keep your first team guys on the bench,

1795
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 2: don't get injured. But I don't think it would be

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01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: the worst decision ever if James Cook got two carries

1797
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: and they threw him a pass just to get him

1798
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: back into the game condition after missing that what week

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01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: or two when he was holding in at Saint John Fisher.

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: So I don't think it would be crazy to see

1801
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: James Cook. But got to get him healthy and keep

1802
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: him healthy for the regular season and then certainly later

1803
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: in the year into January.

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Speaker 1: Are we're gonna take a break. One last segment before

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: we finish up, Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Buffalo Bills Radio presented by TOLI. To help,

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to one of billse Lives.

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01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Trapass. Okay, Chris, you and me, what

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01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: are you looking for? We've asked everybody. We've gotten phone

1810
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: calls the entire show about what people are looking for

1811
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: in this game. What are you looking for?

1812
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: The deep depth at wide receiver. I mean, we saw

1813
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Tyrrel Shavers make the big play. kJ Hamler catch the

1814
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: touchdown and was hilarious on hard knocks his reaction as

1815
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: he was running that route. I love Laviscus Chanal and

1816
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: that goes back to the draft. He has built like

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01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: a running back. Six foot twenty five maybe even two

1818
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,520
Speaker 2: thirty can give you returnability.

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01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: He's very good after the catch.

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: He actually ran a nice route for seventeen yards on

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01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: a comeback that's not really his forte. I want to

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01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: see does someone separate, does someone make three or four catches,

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01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 2: or are there a couple drops from someone that pushes them.

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Down because drops were a problem in the first game. Yeah,

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01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 3: they were that.

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: I think you have Khalil shakir Key on Coleman Josh

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 2: Palmer as your top three. Who's four, who's five, who's six.

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01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: It's been a pretty fascinating battle. Even Christian Wilkerson kind

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01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: of his way into that battle too. So I'm gonna

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01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: be watching.

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Them Tyrrel Shavers has had an excellent camp so and

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01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel is not going to so. Yes, there's it's

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01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: a crowded room. It's a crowded room. I agree with you.

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01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: That is going to be an interesting thing. What I'm

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01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: looking for is a difference in at the D line.

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01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: I want to see number ninety four Landon Jackson, number

1837
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 1: ninety six Dean Walker, and number ninety eight t J.

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 5: Sanders.

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna get some reps and certainly they've from what

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01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: I've seen in the first game against the Giants, they

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01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: were in the right spots. They did some good things

1842
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: now and certainly they flash Walker got a pass break

1843
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: up and Sanders has been good at winning quick from inside.

1844
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: I want to see more of that. I want to

1845
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: see them make a play, force a turnover, get a sack,

1846
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and and get consistent pressure and flash plays one after

1847
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: the other after the other. Those three guys are to

1848
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: the first six weeks of this season, with Oguin, Joby

1849
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: and Hoyt not being available, those guys are getting grow. Yeah,

1850
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: they've played. Certainly, they've played good enough to this point

1851
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: to be considered for the fifty three. You want more,

1852
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: you want to forget the fifty three. You want to

1853
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: push for playing time, you want to one of the

1854
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: veteran guys. I have to say, Oh, I mean I

1855
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: give as many reps now kind of thing.

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01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 3: And second, third, and fourth round pick.

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01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: So those are relatively high investments where in today's NFL

1858
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: it's not like it used to be, where oh hey by,

1859
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: If you're okay by year three and you're kind of

1860
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 2: a contributor, then that's good. You want to see the

1861
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: production right away, especially for a team like the Bills

1862
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen at age twenty nine, that are ready

1863
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl right now?

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01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: All right, Steve Tasker, Christapasso. Tomorrow we're gonna get a hit.

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01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I have a little segment from Brownie in Chicago, a

1866
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: little practice recap from what's going on with the Bears

1867
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: and the Bills down there. Christah Passo and I will

1868
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: be back here tomorrow as well. We'll be taking your

1869
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: phone calls. We'll have a topic for you to chime

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01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: in on. Thanks so much for joining us, Christah Passo,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, We'll see you tomorrow at one on one,

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live