1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: All right, now, I hope you all ready for this. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: All right, My next guest, like me, start off in 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: music and then he's transitioned into acting. You might know 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: him as I don't know Darnelle Hayes from All Americans, say, 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: y'all already. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Know being in Mary J. Bliges a lifetime movies or 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: my all time fave Terry and b a Meth. Ladies 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, David. 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: Bring a mouth, bring them out, bring a mouth, Bring 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: him out. That's harding yell when thats in your mouth, 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: Bring him out, bring. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Him out, ring him to, ring him out? 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Hey, Davincity, how you feeling I'm feeling great. 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: I'm feeling great. How y'all feeling? Wow? This is a 15 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: great crowd. It's a beautiful crowd. 16 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Listen. They have the best energy. Thank you so much. 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: It's an honor to have you amongst the kids family, 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: and we're gonna jump right into it, all right. So 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: you are from Brooklyn, New York, Yes, ma'am, and my 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: castmate daval is also from Brooklyn. I've heard some wild stories. 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: What was it like growing up in Brooklyn for you? 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: I mean growing up in do we got any Brooklyn house? Brooklyn. 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: That's what's up. That's what's up? What up? 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: Not the dopest part about growing up in Brooklyn and 25 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: a fast city like that and just up north in 26 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: areas with trains and buses and all that stuff. You 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: grow up fast, or I wouldn't even say fast. I 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: think you grow up at the rate that you were 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: supposed to grow up at. I think a lot of 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: people are just a little like they get. 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: Coddled a little longer. 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: But the way we grew up, it's like we we 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: became men like kind of quicker and women earlier. 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: So like when you started with music and then you 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: transition to acting. For me, music I just I didn't 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: fall out of love with it, but I feel I didn't. 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Like the politics of the music industry. What was it 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: with you that made you decide, hey, I don't want 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: to do this? 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: It was it was definitely the politics. 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: Like it's like growing up, I loved music, right, I 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: was like Chris Brown, the Trey Songs, the Ushers like everyone. 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: Right. 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, this is this is like what 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: I want to be in all the great rappers, the 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: holes fifty I love fifty. I knows better than him. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: I know fifty songs way better than him. He don't 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: even know, but but nah, like I was really inspired 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: by it. But then when you get there and it's 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: not a figment of your imagination no more, you're like, nah, 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: like they really want like a certain thing there. 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: And I was just like, all right, I don't know, and. 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: I didn't know enough about gospel singers a gospel rappers. 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: He'd be like, oh, maybe I'm gonna take that route. 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: So I was just like, you know what, I'm cool 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: off this. It's like they sometimes they just really want 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: some real killers people that's just killing left and right. 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: And. 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: It's like, bro, I'm like, bro, Like, I've done some 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: bad stuff, but I got a wrestled when I was 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: thirteen and stuff, but I never once started about killing someone. 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: So I'm like, bro, it was a dealing the stolen property. 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, it was stupid, but anyway, Yeah, but 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: when I realized certain things, I'm like, bro, I can't 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: be preaching this message. 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: Bro. 68 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: Like it's like I made it out of my situation 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: because I stopped doing certain things. So I'm like, for 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: me to then do this, I'm like, bro, that's I'm 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: lying you know what I'm saying. I feel like God 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: is I'm gonna have to answer to God and I 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: can't sleep well at night. 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: That's so good. 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: I got to watch you twice on Broadway for Thoughts 76 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: of a Colored Man. 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Guys. It was such a profound play. 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Just we really talked about the thoughts that are black men, 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: what they go through on a day to day basis. 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: We laughed, we cried. It was a really good plan 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: and you were amazing in it. But you also the 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: star of BMF. 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to know what is 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: your favorite Broadway or TV? In film? 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Broadway was hard. Broadway was really hard. I ain't gonna 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: lie like it was like. It was great because it 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: teaches you something that film and TV can't teach you. 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: Film and TV there's a bunch of cut in at 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: the end. It's like director, cut, give you note, throw 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: something new out. 91 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: You get so many chances to redo it. 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: But a Broadway, once you lie and you you front 93 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: of a crowd like this, it's like. 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: Bro, I gotta go. 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: And when you make a mistake, it's like you better 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: hope your partner just like wing it with you. Like 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: there was moments I was just winging it and everyone's like, oh, 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: it was so good. I'm like, you don't even know. 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: I fucked this up, Like I messed this all up. 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: But but it was great. Acting TV and film is 101 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: great because I mean, you it pays the bills, you know, 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: But Broadway it's like when you're doing Broadway, it's more 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: of a craft thing. I mean, I don't know what 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 3: the producers make on it, but as an actor, you 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: you it's work. 106 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: It's a love project. 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: But it was great. 108 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: I learned so much and it shout out to Keenan Scott, Yes, 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: and the writers and directors like everyone like I learned. 110 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: I think that was the biggest class for me in 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: my career. 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 113 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: I always hear that actors who really take their craft 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: serious go do Broadway. Yeah, they say, there's nothing like it. 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: There's no training course like it unless you work on 116 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: a Tyler Perry set. Because we get one take. Tyler's like, 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: we're on Broadway. I'm like, hey, can I get one more? 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: Then you decided that she wanted to pick up comedy. 119 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: Now I tell people all the time that I'm funny. 120 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I'd be like, I'm funny but I don't 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: if I had the chance to do stand up? 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: What made you say I'm gonna give. 123 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: This a shot? You know, that's a great question. 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: I feel like as an artist, you always want to 125 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: push yourself, and for me, stand up is like it's 126 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: like going skydiving. 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: You know. 128 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: It's like, what is gonna happen if I go on 129 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: stage and I just talk Shita? 130 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: Can I for yourself? 131 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna fix my language. I'm sorry forgive 132 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: me mom, but but nah, It's like I was like, yo, 133 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: what if it's like the conversation that me and my 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: boys we having, just like just have it here. And 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: then the thing is, it's like I've been doing mental 136 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: health tours as well, so I was like, if I 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: could infuse a little bit of that and make it educational, 138 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: just a little funny, like what could happen? 139 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: And I was like, even if I got. 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Booed, it's like, you're gonna leave with a message because 141 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: it's not just like like stupid little jokes and me 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: making fun of you people. It's like you really listened 143 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: to You're like, oh no, that that kind of makes sense. 144 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Now are you planning on doing 145 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: a tour for your comedy as well. 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, last year I'd hit ten cities up because we 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: were just like, we didn't make an official tour. We 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: was just gone, was like what can we doing? Like 149 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: we're selling out here so out They were like, okay, okay, 150 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: But it's because of like all American and being math. 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's not because like people 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: are respecting me as a real comedian. 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say that. You're probably coming from because 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: they saw you on TV and they wanted to see 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: what you did. 156 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: But I think over time that I'm gonna get that 158 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: respect as a comedian if I keep pursuing it. But 159 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: I definitely think this summer I might, I might, I 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: might do a tour. 161 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we check y'all going to check them out. 162 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, we appreciate that. 163 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: So something I talk about a lot of times with 164 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: my peers is that people do not see the journey. 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: They don't see what we go through. 166 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: We live and we work in a very rejection driven 167 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: This is that like a career, like we get told 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: no so much, y'all, you guysn't have real self esteem 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: to be an actor facts. I can't count how many 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: no's I got before I got a yes. 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: And it takes a hit. 172 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: If you're not really strong with your self esteem, it 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: can take a hit. How has that journey been for 174 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: you and did you have any moments where you were like, oh. 175 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: This is too much. 176 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been. It's been bad. 177 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: It's like it's crazy because I got over probably like 178 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: a thousand no's and I only got like eight yeses. 179 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: Hear that, yeah, and the three of the eight yes. 180 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: It is all American b in math and like another 181 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: movie and grownish that like started making me like famous, 182 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it's it's what they 183 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: laugh You're funny. 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: Yes, I was like I'm pouring my heart out on 185 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: the laughing like I was in a joke. You got 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 4: a mean audience. That's crazy. 187 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all gotta act like y'all got some home training. 188 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: Don't come to myself like, nah, this is but but nah, 189 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: it was. It's tough. 190 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of the few businesses in 191 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: the world that you're constantly being scrutinized for how you look, 192 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: your size, like you're you're constantly being scrutinized, so it 193 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: it plays with your head man. 194 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: And a lot of times, like I remember it was 195 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: just a producer. He was talking to me. 196 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: He was like, you gotta remember this is the entertainment business, 197 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: not the entertainment arts, you know what I'm saying. So 198 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: like when he told me that, I was like, oh, 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: I stopped taking things personal because it's like like, for instance, 200 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: like I've went out for Haitian characters before I'm Haitian 201 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: both parentation, I speak the language fluently. English ain't even 202 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: my first language. 203 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: I speak French. 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: And give me some give us a little bit. 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: Okay he's out of lindsay. 206 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: Give me some friends. 207 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: Through wow. 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: But but nah. 209 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: But it's like it's crazy though, because I would go 210 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: out for hate characters and. 211 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 4: They calling my team like he doesn't look haation. You 212 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 213 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: They want to make everyone look a certain way that 214 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They're telling the narrative for us, 215 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: and it's like it's offensive, you know what I'm saying 216 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: to me. So it's like there's a lot of moments 217 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: to where you know, I got a love hate relationship 218 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: with his business. But that's why I try to invest 219 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: and set myself up financially completely outside the business, just 220 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: so if everything goes south, it's like my house ain't 221 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: going nowhere. 222 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: My other house ain't going nowhere. You know what I'm saying. 223 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, yeah. 224 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: That's so good. 225 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of finances and financial literacy, I know when I 226 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: first started making real money, because you go from waiting 227 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: on a pay check from the IRS you can't wait 228 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: for the refund to come back, to having to pay 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: and you just did a really funny video on Instagram. 230 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: As a way I can pay you back. But my 231 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: plan is to show you that I understand. Talk about 232 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: paying taxes. I felt that. 233 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: I said, I want to talk about that because so 234 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: many times in our culture we're not educated on how 235 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: to manage our finances on a on a normal level, 236 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: and then we make it and we're definitely not ready. 237 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell y'all that first tax bill. I said, yeah, 238 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll get. 239 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: To that, right. 240 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: I ain't even know. I was in no hurry to 241 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: pay it, and it was like, no, you gotta pay. 242 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I said, pay what? 243 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: Fact? 244 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: What? 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's sick. It's like you think student 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: loans are bad. It's like like if you get a 248 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: bill that you gotta pay Uncle Sam a million dollars, 249 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: like y'all y'all don't got enough? 250 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: Like what am I? Like? 251 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: How am I contributing to this? Like it's it's like 252 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: it's not it's sick. Like I remember the first time. 253 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: I remember I was talking to my CPA and I 254 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: was just like I was just shocked. I was like, no, 255 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: it's like this doesn't make sense, like I don't understand. 256 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: I really did not understand that they was asking my 257 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: little ass for this much money. 258 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, y'all good, Like y'all good? I was 259 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: like yeah, I was. 260 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: I was mad as hell, and I was like, can 261 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: I just do a payment plan? Like like honestly, but 262 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: it's just like no, it's like you so having a 263 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: Chris talker. I was like, yeah, I'll pay the ship, 264 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: but right I was mad as Oh. 265 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: My gosh, we've all been there. 266 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I tell you understand, as your star has risen, at 267 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: what point did you realize that you had to shift 268 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: the way you moved. 269 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: Ooh that's good. I think three years ago I dealt 270 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 3: with like it's everything in life has a side effect. Right, 271 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: It's like you fly in an airplane, Like the coolest 272 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: thing about our inventions human beings, we're so smart with 273 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: our inspiration from God. But as though as a side effect, right, 274 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: So like if you fly in an airplane's radiation, you know, 275 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: if you take a car somewhere, you run the risk 276 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: of X, Y Z and what is doing to the planet. 277 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: But it's like it'll cut time down. You know, instead 278 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: of walking to California it's gonna take you three months, 279 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: you'll do it in a. 280 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: Couple of hours. But it's like it's a side effect 281 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: being on screen. 282 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: The cancer of that is fame, Like fame is not 283 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: what it's all cracked out to be. 284 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: Like when Shorty's be online. 285 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Like my man, my man, my man, y'all dead ass, 286 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: Like when y'all see us out and like we would 287 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: our ladies, our significant other and whatever, and we like, 288 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: y'all really on that type of time, And I'm just like, 289 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: what give you. 290 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: The he's. 291 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: And I was just like, I'm like, what have I 292 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: done to make y'all feel that this is okay? But 293 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: because when you're an artist, you're in such a unique 294 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 3: experience a position because you allow people to. 295 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: Feel this emotional connection. 296 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 3: So their brain is like undergoing neuroplasticity while looking at 297 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: your face right, So it's like it's reshaping it. So 298 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: like you're if you're learning something watching an artist, it's 299 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: like your brain is literally designing itself, right, It's malleable. 300 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: It's like play thof So it's like, so you guys 301 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: associate those nostalgic moments with us and we'll just be 302 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: I'll be in a grocery store just chilling and someone's like, 303 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: they just run up to you and. 304 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: They'm like, what are you doing to you? I'm like 305 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: I gotta eat too, and I'm just like, what are 306 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: you doing here this close? 307 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: Like it's like this is crazy, you know what I'm saying. 308 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not normal. But they feel so 309 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: like involved and like I've been followed before, and it's 310 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: like and it's like, I don't get me wrong, I 311 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: love the fans a artists. I've never in my life 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: thought I would ever be in a position to where 313 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: somebody is saying my resume and then like you know, 314 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: everyone start clapping like it's a great position of being. 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but there is a side that 316 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: comes with it that Sometimes. 317 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: It's like, bro, it's a lot of pressure. You know. 318 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: It's just even simple things like if I wear this 319 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: out and out and I take a picture, can't wear 320 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: it again. 321 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna normalize that I can't wear it again. 322 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: Like it's like, yeah, well if I'm caught. 323 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: See like if me and you was having lunch and 324 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: were chilling, we having a good conversation. I just touching 325 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: hand like girls like that was so good. 326 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh, they go together. 327 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: Picture go together. Now I gotta answer questions. I'm like, god, 328 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: damn you being a gentleman. You holding someone's hands and 329 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: helping them get you know what I'm saying. It's like 330 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: it's like everything you do or say, it's like it's 331 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: gonna be used against you. 332 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: And you see that's my little bro. 333 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we just helion right right. 334 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: But it's it's beautiful. I'm grateful for and who much 335 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: is giving? Much is required, you know. So I'm not complaining. 336 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm just letting y'all know what we go through sometimes 337 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: and sometimes we're just like oh wow, you know. 338 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: It's like sometimes I have being a serious conversation. 339 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm like talking to my mom about something like no, mom, 340 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: like what do you what do you mean? 341 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: We can't do? 342 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: And someone's like I'm like, yo, hold on, hold on, please, 343 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, and they're just like no, please, Catt. 344 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: Just get it. And I'm like, yeah, just wait, but 345 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: it's my birthday. I'm like, of course, it's everyone's birthday. 346 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Every day, like every day it's someone's birthday, and they're 347 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: making you feel bad. 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: And you're just like no, no, no, and I'm like, man. 349 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: It's hard, it's so hard. I struggle with that too. 350 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: And I've I've had the stalkers, you. 351 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: Know, and your life changes in the blink of an eye, 352 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, And it's scary because when you're just friendly 353 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: and you love people and you love your fans like 354 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: I ride for y'all. I love you guys so much, 355 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: but there are some people that take it too far 356 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: and those boundaries are not respected, and as human beings, 357 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: I wish you would understand just that we are human, right, 358 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: and we have family, and we have issues and things 359 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: that we deal with on a day to day basis, 360 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: and some days we wake up and we don't feel 361 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: our best selves, but we have to turn it on, 362 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: you know. We don't have the luxury of being like, yo, 363 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: get on my face, I am not in the mood today. 364 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: We don't have that luxury. 365 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: You see some like hey, like you gotta turn it 366 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: on no matter how you feel, because that may be 367 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: the only moment that they get with you, and that's 368 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: their lasting impression of you, like the person they just 369 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: love and they're like, dang, I thought she was like this, 370 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: but not realizing may maybe she's really going through somewhere. 371 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: He's going through something. I feel. I love y'all too. 372 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: In that shift, did you also see a shift. 373 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: In your friends or like, as you're like climbing and 374 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: realizing we're not in the same place, because you have 375 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: to start thinking different. 376 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you got to. 377 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: You gotta protect your life because it's like when a 378 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: lot of things start revolving around you. You know, you're 379 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: retiring your parents, by the grace of God, you're taking 380 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: care of so many people, like so many people revolve 381 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: around you. It's like if your life were to stop, 382 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: it's like there's so many other lives that would be affected, 383 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: so you can't move normal anymore. And sometimes it's like 384 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: when people have not involved in their thinking and they're 385 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 3: around you, and you're trying to tell them. It's like, Bro, 386 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: I can't just be hanging on in the corners like 387 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: shooting the ships and trying to talk to shorties like 388 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: but I can't do it like going to clubs and 389 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: like talking to a girl like but as dad first 390 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: of all, if she belonged to that man, now he 391 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: shoot me, like I've been in like two shootouts already, 392 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: and by mistake, are you buy mistake? And I had 393 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: nothing and now I'm not doing nothing to get in 394 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: trouble no more. But it's like sometimes so it's like 395 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: there's certain people I'm like, bro, like I'm not gonna 396 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm not associating myself with you. And it's tough because 397 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: when people say, yo, you change or you Hollywood, it's 398 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: just like it's like, bro, I can't even begin to 399 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: explain to them because they don't have knowledge. And the 400 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: prophet Hoseiah in the Bible Chapter four, Chapter four, first six, 401 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: he said to the people of Jerusalem, he was like, 402 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: my people perish for their lack of knowledge. So it's 403 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: like it's tough because it's just like when you're trying 404 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: to explain something to someone who really don't have the knowledge. 405 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: They're ignorant by definition. Like that's why in the Bible 406 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: a lot when Jesus is talking to the Father, he's like, Father, 407 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: forgive them for that, like for they don't know they're ignorant, right, 408 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: And it's like so sometimes when you're trying to explain someone, 409 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 3: you're like, brod, you can't even know this. And it's 410 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: the saddest thing because it's like you look crazy and 411 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: I'm like bro like and this is really for your 412 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: own good too, But it's like, I think one of 413 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: the hardest things you can go through is like you're 414 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: talking to someone that you love and you almost love 415 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: them more than they love themselves, and you're trying to 416 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: really help them, but they really can't understand. It's like 417 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: me telling my dog, like, yo, you got to pay 418 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: the mortgage for the next four months. I don't care, right, 419 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: and the dog is niggas when you were talking about 420 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: And that's how it is talking to people sometimes. And 421 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: I just got to understand that and I just got 422 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: to love them from a distance. But it pains you, 423 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: but to them it's like, oh, you just brand new. 424 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 4: It sucks, man, it. 425 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: Sucks, it does I know. I've been there. 426 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: You spoke recently on I think it was for the 427 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Fellas on BT about the black family dynamic and nucleus. 428 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: I am not gonna lie, y'all. 429 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: I was blown away by your answers and how you 430 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: articulated yourself. 431 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Well, the trees artificial. 432 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm I was like, nah, He's like nah, oh, yeah, 433 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 434 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: I was blown away by the way you articulated yourself, 435 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 2: and I wanted to know, like, where did your family 436 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: values come from and did you have that foundation growing up? 437 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: Unfortunately I didn't have that foundation growing up. 438 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: I didn't understand the family value. I didn't understand why 439 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: it was important. I was just I was just in 440 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: a curse, you know what I'm saying. And it's not 441 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: until like I was getting in trouble. Then I like 442 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: moved to my father in Florida, and I started having 443 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: different influences around me, and I started hanging out with 444 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: families that you know, we're families, and I'm like, bro, 445 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 3: this is cool. Like I remember one of the this 446 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: is crazy, Like this is such a sad moment. When 447 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: I was in Florida, I'm going to high school. I'm 448 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 3: at like one of my friend's house and they was like, Oh, 449 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna watch a movie and I'm like, yo, I'm 450 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: watching a movie as a family. And I'm like Dad, 451 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, bro, this is crazy. And then 452 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: like they were like and they would call me Abe. 453 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: My first name is Abraham, my middle name is eventual 454 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: first name is Abraham, and so Abe was the nickname 455 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: of Abraham obviously, so they would call me. There was 456 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: one of the moms was like, yo, A, can you 457 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: go grab something in the pantry And I was like, 458 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: what the fuck is the pantry like that, like that's 459 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: how like, and I'm like and then I was like 460 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: and I really and I was just like and I'm 461 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: like huh And she was like pantry and I was 462 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: like damn. And I'm like I really don't know. She 463 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: was like just grab the chicks. 464 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, like what you do? 465 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: But like no, but all jumps aside, Like no, no, no, 466 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: all jumps aside. 467 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: But I was just like seeing everything. 468 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, they got like family thing and like 469 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: kitchens really organized. I ain't have none of that, so 470 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: I had to really like learn that outside. And don't 471 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: get me wrong, my parents did the best they knew 472 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: how because if they knew more, they would have done 473 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: better because their lives would have been easier. Yes, And 474 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: a lot of times it's like our parents, they were 475 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: so focused on just meeting the basic needs about survival. 476 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 3: They never focused on emotional needs. It's psychological needs. They 477 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: never focused on any of that. They just to them 478 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: and they're not from this country, from a third lite country. 479 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, you got a bed, you got air, 480 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: open the window, and you got water. 481 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And they're like, bro, you're good. 482 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 4: You know nothing, tolf. So whenever I'm. 483 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: Like like that, like I'm I'm sad or whatever, it's 484 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: like band and I go take a shower, He's go 485 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: take a shower. Really, so it's like so I never 486 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: really like but and that's the beauty about books though, 487 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: because there's really successful people in this world that they 488 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: leave a blueprint behind in a book. 489 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: Man. 490 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: And I remember when I read there was like this 491 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: guy was like, if you want to hide something, a 492 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: black man, put it in a book, And I was like, dang. 493 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: And I really just reading my way into this thinking. 494 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: But like, based off my environment, I'm needed. It's a 495 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: grace of God it's a grace of guy. 496 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: You touched on something just expressing that I'm sad and 497 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: you are a huge mental health advocate and I am 498 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: as well. But I think it was like probably within 499 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: the last five years, around twenty twenty round COVID, that 500 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: a lot of our community realized it's okay to not 501 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: be okay, you know, and it's okay to say, hey, 502 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm I feel sad. And we've made it a safe 503 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: for our black men to feel okay with expressing their feelings. 504 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: But for so long, we as a whole were told 505 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: shut up, suppress it, push through, and keep going because 506 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: nobody cares. And I want to talk to you because 507 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: this is something that you go to speak into high 508 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: school students all around the country about mental health. What 509 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: was it that drew you to that and made you 510 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: realize that you needed to work on yourself. 511 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: I think I've been studying a lot of sociology and 512 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: a lot of psychology. I got a degree in criminal justice, 513 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: so you got to study like criminal behavior, the mind, 514 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: certain things. And I further do studies and started studying 515 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: sociology and anthropology, and I realized why some people want 516 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: to take that out of school. I realized why because 517 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: the social sciences are so important. And when you realize 518 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: why we're disenfranchised, it's no joke. I mean you have doctors, physicians, 519 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: people just in high positions that was preaching this social 520 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: Darwinism that black people are biologically inferior to white people. 521 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 3: Black people pain tolerance is higher, black people don't feel 522 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: like black people aren't full human. 523 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: So it's that system that built this country. 524 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: And this country only like two hundred fifty years old, 525 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: like it's this country as young as hell, but we've 526 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: been living in that way of thinking for so long 527 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 3: that we are a by and that's fresh. Like two 528 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: humans ago, we were really in shackles. Like people don't 529 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: think about that, right, And it's like when you realize that, 530 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: you're like, yo, nah, I gotta like, I gotta go 531 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: back to my people and talk to them because the 532 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: way I made it out, I didn't make it out 533 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: by slaying dope at being a gangster. 534 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 4: I had to start. I thought my way out of this. 535 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and appreciate that, thank you, 536 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: And you start realizing that. It's like sometimes the media, 537 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: for some strange reason, they love to show us in 538 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: these lights that's actually leading. 539 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: To our detriments. 540 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: Like it's like, if you look at the content that 541 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: we black and brown people consume at the rate that 542 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: we consume it, it's cancerous, bro. And it's just like, 543 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: and we're not even deconstructing and fixing the problems of 544 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 3: why we're in it, and we're just consuming this. So 545 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: we're just building a generation to just ignorant people on 546 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: top of ignorant. That's why there's some black people around 547 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: the world, but I would I don't even want to 548 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: say black because that's not even something we would call ourselves. 549 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: Some people of African descent around the world, they don't 550 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: even want to associate themselves with African Americans and with 551 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 3: this because they just understand how this society is being 552 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: curated to just keep them like this. That's why growing up, 553 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: my parents always just say, you're not black. I'm agan, 554 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: that's not you were the same, right, you know what 555 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. We were just a little south from them, 556 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 3: But it's like we were doing the same thing they 557 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: were doing. So that's why I feel this moral obligation 558 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: is like, as I rising, I feel the need to 559 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: break certain stigmas down to man to my fellow men 560 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: and my brothers and sisters, because we weren't given this 561 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: access to education, to this knowledge, and when we start 562 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: realizing the things that we go through, it's not crazy, 563 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like this is normal. And 564 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: the hardships and the trauma that we feel, like we 565 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: feel pain that there's people around the world that have 566 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: never feel but we're the most influential around the world. 567 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: Like it's like we're so dope and they only show 568 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: this side. So I'm like, yo, I need to like 569 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: let these people know. Like, bro, we're artists, like I'm 570 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 3: talking painters, We're all this stuff, but all our work 571 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: was just been stolen the strip and they just make 572 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: us think in this one way. 573 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, you're so brilliant. I'll be going 574 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 4: to school, I be. 575 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: Talking to some smart ass kids and then they just 576 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: but they They're like, nah, I want to play basketball, 577 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: I want to play football, I want to be acting, 578 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: I want to be rapper. But it's just like you 579 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: have one hundred percent of the population going after something 580 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 3: that only less than points zero zero is a real 581 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: one could achieved. 582 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: That's a setup. 583 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But like, but if you 584 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: preaching the other stuff, a family having becoming a doctor normalized, 585 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: Like in my neighborhood, bro, I'm the only one that's 586 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: really impressive. Everyone else is just regular, you know what 587 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And they're not black, you know what I'm saying. 588 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: But if there's another black person, this man's probably want 589 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: two Super Bowl rings and he's doing this or you 590 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But it's like, we just got 591 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: to normalize being in these positions. But I think when 592 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: you start and you could, we could use mental health 593 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: to really understand that, dissect our brain, learn how it 594 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: works and why we're being stared, disdirection, just only be 595 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: consumers and then right there we could just start thinking 596 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: different and I feel like we could become great because 597 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: black people, man, we special. Come on, That's why it 598 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: takes to do this to us, and we're really special. 599 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: When we put our heads together, we do things that 600 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: people just I could go on and all I'm shut up, 601 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: but we're real special. 602 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: We are enjoying this, but we are running at a time. 603 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: But before we go, I know this is the question 604 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: you all have been waiting for me to ask since 605 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: he's on stage. 606 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about love. 607 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: You have been very intentionally private about your personal life, 608 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: and I respect it. I am the same way in 609 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: certain aspects. Because we share so much of our lives 610 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: with the public, you have to keep certain things sacred. 611 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: So I want to know a man in your position, 612 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: what are traits and characteristics that you look for in 613 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: a woman? 614 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: And don't y'all start being like, that's me. 615 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: I feel like they got to have God first. 616 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: You gotta have God, and you gotta believe in God 617 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: the way I believe in God, Like it's rooted from 618 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: the Bible. 619 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: Because a lot of y'all the universe and da da 620 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: da dah. 621 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: It is like, yeah, sending letters with no names and 622 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: no address on it, and I don't know who it's 623 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: going to, and the devil is strong. I'd be underestimated 624 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: Satan that month. That dude is smart. He know the 625 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: Bible and everything way better than us. So some of 626 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: y'all like all the universe and it's saying it is 627 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: like you want this, say it again. 628 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: You said two, and it's like, and it's like, and 629 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: that's how it works. 630 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: So it's like, I think, if we're both rooted from God, 631 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: like being Jehovah Yahweh and Jesus Christ our own. Then 632 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: it's like then that's number one, yes, because as long 633 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: as we don't have philosophical differences, we can build a union. Yes, 634 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: but it's like a house divide and can't stand. So 635 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: it's like what am I doing? Like I'm not gonna 636 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: look at you if you believe it's something else, stay 637 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: your ass over there. But two, she gotta be educated. 638 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: She got to be educated. You know what I'm saying. 639 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: I think. 640 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: And the dopest thing about women, you guys are so 641 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: beautiful and powerful and really smart. God gave us brute force. Right, 642 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: we could pick y'all little ass up, like come in 643 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: and do whatever. 644 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: But God gave y'all this to. 645 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: Where y'all could pick us up with your words, which 646 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: is like, you know, which is different because when a man, 647 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: when we fall it sometimes we try to not to 648 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: let no one else know, We try to hold that in. 649 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: But having a woman be able to articulate the right 650 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: words to let me just start expressing myself and open myself, 651 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: and she's carrying me and lifting me in that way, 652 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: and it's like and she's really that support. 653 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: That's why. 654 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I do believe if a woman is 655 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: with a rich man and they divorced, she deserve half 656 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: because what a woman does honestly, if you're a real woman, though, 657 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: tell me I know. 658 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 4: But if you're a real woman and you doing like 659 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: real woman. 660 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: Stuff, absolutely because the suffering you guys help us alleviate. 661 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: There's no number that could be put on that, you 662 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And that's that's why the unity 663 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: between a man and woman is is so destroyed in 664 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: this country. And family because there's a reason for that. 665 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: It's like, you have a family situation, you become very powerful, yes, 666 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: very powerful. And then I would say so spiritual in 667 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: the same way, believe in God, educated and just she 668 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: cares about health, like physically, mentally and spiritually, like she's 669 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: a health the person, you know what I'm saying. Like 670 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: we're normalizing a lot of sick things that it's like, bro, 671 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: this is not healthy, you know what I'm saying. So 672 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: I just want us to consume things to where we 673 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: could reap the fruits of the seas that we plant, 674 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that's that's what I want. 675 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: I don't really care about nothing. I don't care about 676 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: your following. I don't care what you do. I don't 677 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: care how much. 678 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 4: Money you made. Got to figure that out for us. 679 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: I know that's right. 680 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Wow, put your hands together for Da Vinci. 681 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much. 682 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can let us know that 683 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: you have coming up that the kids community can support 684 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: you on? 685 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me, 686 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: and thank you guys for welcoming. 687 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: Me like this. 688 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you're so welcome. Thank you. 689 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: This is amazing. But yeah, there's b M F. Well, 690 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: I can't is it. 691 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: That's what I'm meant to ask you. 692 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: It's gonna come a. 693 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: Season four is gonna come out. Despite what's going on, 694 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: Season four is gonna come out. I can't tell y'all won. 695 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: And then You've got some movies and other stuff. And 696 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 3: I've been producing and working on my own stuff, so 697 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: there's definitely some stuff coming out. And then I'm gonna 698 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: do a comedy show probably like a tour in probably June, 699 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: and another mental of tour. 700 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, if y'all follow me, I'll definitely have 701 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: some good stuff y'all. 702 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Y'all full of on Devin. You make sure you guys 703 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: support him, were gonna keep this party going. DJ Mars 704 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: and I'll be right back, y'all.