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Speaker 3: That's what they all said, and that's right. Welcome everybody

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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys Hour. Thank you for joining us after

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Speaker 3: really inspiring Cowboys win in the middle of the freaking night.

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Speaker 3: For crying out loud. We'll talk more about that, but

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Speaker 3: what a what a thrilling way to win the game.

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Speaker 3: that in every possible sense of the word to have

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys perennial All Pro Guard Zach Martin with us tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks for having me. Appreciate you stopping by

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Speaker 3: on your way to Canton, Ohio. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: We were we were literally just talking about what time we,

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Speaker 3: respectively got to sleep on. Nicole was on the postgame

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Speaker 3: show here and so you were done working.

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Speaker 4: At this morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, and we were still near and yeah, pretty close.

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Speaker 3: So how much sleep did you get?

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Speaker 5: I slept probably like an hour on the flight home,

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Speaker 5: and then I walked to my house just before six,

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Speaker 2: They're up.

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Speaker 3: I know they're I'm so glad you brought your family.

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Speaker 3: Why are they all the way? Why are you guys

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Speaker 3: middle of things here. Oh, there we go. That's what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about. They are they are beautiful, all of them.

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Speaker 3: You And so what time did they decide you were

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Speaker 5: Oh, probably about eight thirty, about eight thirty, and then

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Speaker 5: we were we were in the building today about noon,

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Speaker 3: How how and then back to bed back.

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Speaker 3: How much more challenging does that become after ten years?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the recovery time is definitely. I mean each year

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Speaker 5: he usually adjusts the schedule accordingly after one of these,

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Speaker 3: As when we got three in a row on the road,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three night road game they're time.

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Speaker 2: Are always late, late flights back. It's always better after

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Speaker 5: To just just hang you know, start my recovery process,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about this this game last night.

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Speaker 3: Even though you couldn't understand what I was saying. I

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Speaker 3: about the gutsiest win I can remember. Anybody else kind

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Speaker 3: of liked that the way they came back and Nick,

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Speaker 3: didn't play well. You did some things well, but the environment,

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Speaker 4: If someone would have told you before the game, you

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Speaker 3: Adversity, turn it over twice in a real zone.

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Speaker 5: That's not the formula that we're talking about. You know,

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Speaker 3: How did the I'm asking a dial back eight years.

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Speaker 3: But how did the atmosphere great atmosphere fans are fantest.

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Speaker 3: How how did that feel different than the one in sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Because you weren't supposed to win that was in November.

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Speaker 5: People always ask me like, do you have a favorite

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Speaker 5: last night had some of those feelings. Just the atmosphere there,

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Speaker 4: What was what is it about Pittsburgh that always seems

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Speaker 5: whipping and I don't know it. It was a great

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Speaker 5: It was tough because I've only had I think we've

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Speaker 4: The night, what do you think about the run game

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Speaker 5: It was great, and that's something we emphasiz all week

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes the run game it's not always you know,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Thanks to everybody for being with us wherever

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Speaker 3: All Pro Guard Zach Martin. The you said you said

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think so much of this league.

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Speaker 3: And so this team you're playing this week is a

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Speaker 3: So if you it wouldn't be as it wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: They're they're playing for a lot too. If if that happens,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, ever, everyone is good in this league,

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes they do, Yes, they do. There's no ugly ones.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about a couple of the a

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Speaker 2: Was stretching me. And but yeah, they just took me.

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Speaker 5: Uh, the locker room was kind of a far walk,

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Speaker 5: But you know he's an emotional guy, and if you

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Speaker 3: Before last night. Did you have an opinion about why

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, we had a couple of games there

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Speaker 2: When I heard the crowd? Because you know I pulled.

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Speaker 2: Now I can see it.

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Speaker 5: luckily Dak. I mean, we talk about doing our job

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Speaker 5: and like little things details. The quarterbacks job on the

442
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Speaker 5: goal line is to follow the ball in case something

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Speaker 5: like that happens, and Dak was right on it, and

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Speaker 5: h you know, luckily he got on it and we

445
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Speaker 5: were to make a play a couple of plays later,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, not the best feeling when you're sitting second

447
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Speaker 5: goal from the half yard line and you're kind of

448
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Speaker 5: thinking like, oh, we're you know, we got this one,

449
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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden it's fourth and fourth from.

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Speaker 3: Before and this is going to sound like I am

451
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Speaker 3: I'm linking these thoughts. I promise I'm not. But do

452
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Speaker 3: you ever get a play called and think to yourself,

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Speaker 3: why and the hell are we doing that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, sure, why not? But absolutely, but sometimes

455
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Speaker 5: you know it works out and.

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Speaker 2: But no, like that, that was the call.

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Speaker 5: We repped that play all week, and you know, the

458
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Speaker 5: guy jumped over and made it, made a heck of

459
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Speaker 5: a play and luckily Dak was there to land on it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you kind of have an idea.

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Speaker 5: You you repped these different situations throughout the week so

462
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Speaker 5: much you know your your opener is your red zone,

463
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Speaker 5: your goal line, so you kind of know the plays

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Speaker 5: that are gonna be called. When we were down those

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Speaker 5: last two plays a third and fourth down, and we

466
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Speaker 5: probably could have called the plays because of the plays

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Speaker 5: we rep and those are the plays you know the

468
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Speaker 5: coaches are gonna go to on their call sheet. So

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Speaker 5: those last two plays. You know, we knew those were

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Speaker 5: getting dialed up.

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Speaker 4: Do you have express that to Dak maybe or no?

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Speaker 5: You're just like, yeah, I mean no, I mean you

473
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Speaker 5: gotta have confidence in the in the process and the coaches.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the little smile because part of what

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Speaker 3: I think you're thinking is I don't want him telling

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Speaker 3: me how.

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Speaker 5: You know sometimes you know I would run I would

478
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Speaker 5: run it, uh every play if I could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh, one more thing about this will take

480
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Speaker 3: another break. The way your quarterback is in the huddle,

481
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Speaker 3: he's one of the all time best. And and you

482
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Speaker 3: remember when you went to camp and he was battling

483
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Speaker 3: to be the third string quarterback and didn't look like

484
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Speaker 3: he was gonna make it for the first couple of weeks,

485
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Speaker 3: and then two injuries happen, and you come back from

486
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Speaker 3: training camp and he's in charge of the huddle. And

487
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Speaker 3: I remember talking to you and Travis and some other

488
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Speaker 3: guys about how he was in the huddle then, and

489
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Speaker 3: everybody said, it's unbelievable. The guys just completely in charge.

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Speaker 3: How's he grew?

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Speaker 5: I mean, he just got like he's so confident in

492
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Speaker 5: himself and the guys around him, and not a cockiness

493
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Speaker 5: at all, just like he's just confident and that permeates

494
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Speaker 5: throughout the entire huddle. And when we get out there

495
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Speaker 5: to start the drive and there's five minutes or whatever,

496
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Speaker 5: and you can just see in his eyes like there's

497
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Speaker 5: no panic at all, and man, that's contagious in the huddle.

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Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna take another break and back with

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin.

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin is our special guest, the Cowboys All Pro Guard.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ask you the question that you that

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Speaker 3: you don't want me to ask you, uh, but I

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Speaker 3: will ask you one that I've asked you before, and

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Speaker 3: that is, uh, how often you think about the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame.

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Speaker 2: When I talk to you? And it seems to always

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Speaker 2: come up in our in.

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Speaker 3: Our because I want an invitation, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: I better keep reminding you because I'm eminently forgettable.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not.

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Speaker 4: Come on, I'm gonna You've had six different offensive line coaches.

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Speaker 4: What kind of impact have they all made on your career?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: If I you know, when I talked to people and

529
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Speaker 5: they say, man, you've had six coaches, But I kind

530
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Speaker 5: of I think I'm pretty fortunate to have different coaches.

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Speaker 5: And my line coach in college is all an NFL guy,

532
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Speaker 5: So Harry Heatstan. Yeah, he was in Chicago and then

533
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Speaker 5: came to Notre Dame in my last couple of two

534
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Speaker 5: years there. But you know, off its ave line world,

535
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Speaker 5: there's a lot, Uh, there's a lot of different you know,

536
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Speaker 5: philosophies and ways to block people, and I've kind of

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Speaker 5: seen it all. I think I've kind of been under

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Speaker 5: pretty much every offensive line tree and techniques and you know,

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Speaker 5: the nice thing about playing for so many people, you know,

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Speaker 5: I definitely have a you know, my core belief in

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Speaker 5: what I believe, uh, an offensive line technique should be.

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Speaker 5: But I think I've pulled uh you know, I've I've

543
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Speaker 5: been able to pull different things from all six of

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Speaker 5: those coaches, and you know, still kind of use certain

545
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Speaker 5: things in my game. And you know, so I find

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Speaker 5: myself pretty lucky to kind of have different perspectives of

547
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Speaker 5: of the offensive line world, just because it is just

548
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Speaker 5: such an interesting position.

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Speaker 4: What have you pulled from Mike clari.

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Speaker 5: Man, his his gosh, the guy's got some energy and

551
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Speaker 5: just his his attitude every day. I mean, he's almost

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Speaker 5: seven years old and guy's got more. I've never seen

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Speaker 5: him drink a cup of coffee. He just he's got

554
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Speaker 5: so much energy in the room. And you know, him

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Speaker 5: more than any line coach maybe that I've had in

556
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Speaker 5: the NFL is his consistent message and how much he

557
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Speaker 5: harps on.

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Speaker 2: Kind of the same thing. You know, he does a

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Speaker 2: great job of almost like speaking things in New existence.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 5: We talk about the techniques so much, and obviously we're

562
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Speaker 5: repping him, but just the constant consistency of his message.

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Speaker 5: It really rubs off on guys, and it shows up

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Speaker 5: on the tape.

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Speaker 4: A go ahead.

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Speaker 3: He's been here a minute in the league in.

567
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Speaker 5: The longtime, coached a lot of good offensive lines and

568
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Speaker 5: and and been around a lot of big time players

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Speaker 5: and great teams. And obviously was here when he started

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Speaker 5: his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when I met him, and he was

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Speaker 3: working for Tom Landry. Does he ever talk about or

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Speaker 3: any other position coach you've had, talk about how different

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Speaker 3: head coaches for whom they've worked might have influenced the

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Speaker 3: way they teach.

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Speaker 5: Not really, I mean, I don't think a specific example

577
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Speaker 5: pops up. Again, Like, the offensive line world is very

578
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Speaker 5: it's a very Uh you know that it's called the

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Speaker 5: mushroom Society for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?

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Speaker 3: One of the one of my most prized possessions. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the great Hudson Hawke.

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Speaker 2: We get had him, it's seven. We had him for

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Speaker 2: about and.

585
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Speaker 3: He's stuck around. He stuck around because he knew they

586
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Speaker 3: were gonna draft Tyront and he wanted to coach Tyrant

587
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Speaker 3: because he'd coached Jackie Slater with the Rams. Hudson Hawk

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Speaker 3: once gave me a mushroom society, key ching, he's.

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Speaker 8: A year year.

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Speaker 2: You get it.

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Speaker 3: You're an honorary but you got to the highest compliments.

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Speaker 3: It is, which, by the way, the mushroom society that

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Speaker 3: the idea is, as Hud explained it to me, that

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman basically, uh, don't make any noise, don't want

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Speaker 3: any attention. They just sit around in the fertilizer.

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Speaker 5: They're thrown back in the dark, right and grow. Which

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Speaker 5: it's a unique position, right, Like, we're the only position

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Speaker 5: really that has five guys on the field at one time,

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Speaker 5: and so much of what we do is it's based

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Speaker 5: off the guy you play next to and the unit

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Speaker 5: as a whole. So you know, it's almost like the

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Speaker 5: ultimate team sport inside the ultimate team sport, and it's

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Speaker 5: it's uh, it's cool to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ask you about all of them, but

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Speaker 3: did you play for Callahan?

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Speaker 2: Yep? That was my rookie year.

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Speaker 3: So some people think he's one of the greatest of

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Speaker 3: all time. What's what makes him good?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 5: His uh just how kind of demanding he was and

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Speaker 5: how much you know, we rep stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think.

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Speaker 5: The amount of you know, sometimes that you don't have

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Speaker 5: all the time at practice. It didn't matter how much

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Speaker 5: time we had, we were getting our reps in. And

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Speaker 5: so with him, it was just do the same thing

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Speaker 5: over and over and over again, and you know, it

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Speaker 5: turns into muscle memory. And I thought he did a

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Speaker 5: did an awesome job with that. I think I'm very

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Speaker 5: fortunate to have him as my as my rookie line coach.

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Speaker 5: And obviously I came into a good situation with a

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Speaker 5: great room, but to have him to kind of jumpstart

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Speaker 5: my career, I thought was was big.

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Speaker 3: The other guy that I want to hear you talk

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Speaker 3: about is Mark Colombo, who, you know, one of my

626
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 3: favorite offensive lineman whoever played here, and you talk about

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Speaker 3: through the whistle. That's how he played and did he

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Speaker 3: coach that? Yeah, this is a very enthusiastic man.

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Speaker 2: That that was That was what made him special man.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 5: He was an attitude guy every single day. And you

632
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Speaker 5: know the awesome part about playing for Mark was you know,

633
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Speaker 5: he wasn't that far removed from playing right, so he had,

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Speaker 5: you know, that personal experience of knowing what he's asking

635
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Speaker 5: of his guys and being able to talk about that

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Speaker 5: and say, hey, man, this is this. This is a

637
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Speaker 5: hard block you gotta hold up here though, So you

638
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 5: know he had that experience and.

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Speaker 2: That energy every day.

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Speaker 4: Everything that you learn from your different offensive line coaches,

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Speaker 4: how has that influenced how you kind of coach the

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Speaker 4: younger guys that come in every year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, like I said, I've kind of I've kind

644
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: of been exposed to all different kinds of techniques, and obviously,

645
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Speaker 5: you know, I try to whatever line coach I've had,

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Speaker 5: I've always tried to, you know, buy into what they're teaching.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, because like I said it, there's

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Speaker 2: five guys out there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if a guy's trying to do his own thing,

650
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Speaker 5: it's like, oh I think this works better and that

651
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: everyone else is doing something different.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't work out quite well.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I've tried to do a good job

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Speaker 5: of when we got a new line coach of really

655
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: buying into their their fundamentals. I mean, obviously you have

656
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: your you know, your core beliefs of of you know,

657
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: different blocks and things like that, but definitely buying into

658
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Speaker 5: everyone's different techniques and staying on the same page with

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Speaker 5: the rest of the guys.

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Speaker 3: So this is interesting to me. In baseball hitting coaches,

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Speaker 3: that's one of the toughest jobs because every hitter feels

662
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Speaker 3: like he has a different approach that works for him.

663
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Speaker 3: What the hitting coach has to do is use whatever

664
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Speaker 3: his core principles are to find a way to let

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Speaker 3: the hitter be who he wants to be within the

666
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Speaker 3: framework of the core principles. Is it the same with

667
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Speaker 3: offensive line play?

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Speaker 5: I think because everyone's different, right, Like we always laugh

669
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Speaker 5: when coaches pull up, like film a tyrant to try

670
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Speaker 5: to the tackles. It's like, can we get someone else

671
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 5: on the film? Like, no one else can do that, right,

672
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Speaker 5: So everyone is different how they move their stance. You know,

673
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Speaker 5: some guys can't get their footwork exactly like a coach wants.

674
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Speaker 5: So there's little things you have to tweak to, you know,

675
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Speaker 5: to get on the same page as everyone else. But

676
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Speaker 5: you know it, sometimes it is hard when you do

677
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Speaker 5: watch certain guys on tape because it's like, like Tyler

678
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Speaker 5: Smith's a great example, Like I wouldn't show Tyler Smith's

679
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: tape to young o alignment because the guy is such

680
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: a freak. I mean, he does things that they're just

681
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Speaker 5: incredible on the field that like if I try to

682
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Speaker 5: do those things that it wouldn't work out so well.

683
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Speaker 2: So you have to kind of tinker with your personnel.

684
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Speaker 5: But like you said, every line coach has has their

685
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Speaker 5: core fundamentals that they believe in, and those are the

686
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Speaker 5: things that that, you know, we want to make sure

687
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Speaker 5: all the guys are on the same page with You're.

688
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Speaker 4: A nine time pro bowler and you have fewer holding

689
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Speaker 4: penalties than Pro bowls.

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Speaker 3: What applaud dead? Please applaud dead. That's stupid. That's a

691
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Speaker 3: stupid nobody else has ever done it.

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Speaker 4: What is the key to staying discipline at this point

693
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Speaker 4: of your career?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it starts off with our like my

695
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: technique fundamentals, like that's something we talk about every single day.

696
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Speaker 2: And then also like.

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Speaker 5: You know, I I I think when you're especially when

698
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: you're run blocking, I mean pass protection too. But I

699
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 5: feel like I have a pretty good sense of what

700
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Speaker 5: it feels like to hold and what what officials are

701
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Speaker 5: are looking for on hold. So if I find myself

702
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Speaker 5: in compromise the situations, or or that I got someone

703
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Speaker 5: you know, gripped up too much when the ball is

704
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Speaker 5: going by, I think I have a pretty good feeling

705
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Speaker 5: on you know when to let go, when to kind

706
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Speaker 5: of push that line, but then then get off of it.

707
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Speaker 5: And it's it's something it's harder thing to learn, right,

708
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Speaker 5: I mean, it takes it takes some time to get

709
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: that down, and but it's something that it definitely has

710
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: come throughout my career. Didn't didn't just start off that way.

711
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Speaker 3: So when you come in the league, whether you're a

712
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Speaker 3: first round draft choice or a rookie free agent, TJ.

713
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: Bass looks like he's gonna have a great career, yep.

714
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Speaker 3: But you're young and strong and you're gonna live forever,

715
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: and you can do everything, and you can do it

716
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Speaker 3: whenever you want. I don't think I'm going to insult

717
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Speaker 3: you if I suggest that everyone reaches a stage in

718
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Speaker 3: their career where you say, you know, I don't know

719
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Speaker 3: how many more of these I'm gonna do. And so

720
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Speaker 3: when you're as far into a career as you are,

721
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Speaker 3: do you find yourself consciously forcing yourself to stop and

722
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Speaker 3: be in the moment and absorb. Like Pittsburgh is a

723
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Speaker 3: great example, but even at and T Stadium, when something's

724
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Speaker 3: going good, when the locker room is good, when the

725
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Speaker 3: flight home is great, do you find yourself consciously saying, oh,

726
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Speaker 3: hold on to this because this isn't gonna be.

727
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Speaker 2: Here for I mean, I had it last night.

728
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Speaker 5: I mean, and that's something that like you hear former

729
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: players talk about all the time, they don't always remember

730
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Speaker 5: the the wins and losses in the games. But I

731
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Speaker 5: can tell you right now, like everyone's gonna remember that

732
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: locker room last night after that win and and the

733
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Speaker 5: you know, the delay and coming in and we're getting

734
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Speaker 5: a team break down at one thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 5: and you know, obviously coaches from Pittsburgh, so everyone's jacked

736
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Speaker 5: up for him after the game, and you know, those

737
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Speaker 5: are the things that like, I'm getting chills thinking about

738
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Speaker 5: it right now. It's just there's nothing I tell people

739
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Speaker 5: all the time, like people don't understand how good it

740
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Speaker 5: feels to win on the road, you know, when you're

741
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Speaker 5: when you're in someone else's stadium and you're in the

742
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Speaker 5: locker room and guys are going nuts. I mean, there's

743
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Speaker 5: there's not a lot of feelings like that.

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Speaker 3: And and he Mike says something today about and I

745
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: know you've done this before, but they heat after a win.

746
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Speaker 3: He'll he'll go to you about for you know, it's

747
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Speaker 3: about fifteen.

748
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that the time?

749
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well so I'll give you the backstory. So

751
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Speaker 2: this is like I don't know, probably.

752
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Speaker 3: See this is good heat understands we need.

753
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is like.

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Speaker 5: Maybe like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and you know, we

755
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Speaker 5: never played noon games, like we get like one or

756
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Speaker 5: two a year.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So there was a game we were playing Detroit at

759
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Speaker 5: home and it was a noon game and I had

760
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Speaker 5: like all my high school buddies in town. They come

761
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Speaker 5: down for one game a year, and they were all

762
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Speaker 5: down and they come down for the noon games. We

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Speaker 5: get a electra time after the game to hang and

764
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Speaker 5: it was only like three fifteen, and like we never

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Speaker 5: get done before eight o'clock or whatever, so, uh, you

766
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Speaker 5: know whatever, after that game, I just screamed, it's only

767
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Speaker 5: three fifteen. And that's kind of uh that's kind of

768
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Speaker 5: stayed true throughout the last seven.

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Speaker 2: Or eight years.

770
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Speaker 3: And what did he say to you last night?

771
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Speaker 2: He said, like, what time is? I was like, it's

772
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Speaker 2: one one oh seven. Of course.

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Speaker 4: You know, what's been your favorite locker room moment in

774
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Speaker 4: your career? And where would you rank last night?

775
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if I can pull one

777
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Speaker 5: out particular, but like though, again, those like tough road wins,

778
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Speaker 5: there's nothing like him. I mean obviously, yeah, if you

779
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: got there and you blow a team out, it's still

780
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: great and everyone's happy. But those hard fought wins were

781
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, made plays down the stretch.

782
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Speaker 5: It was kind of ugly, but we found a way

783
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Speaker 5: to win. I mean, those are the ones that you

784
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Speaker 5: can just tell.

785
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Speaker 2: It's not just the.

786
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Speaker 5: Players, it's the coaches, it's the staff, like everyone for

787
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: how much time that everyone in that locker room pours

788
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Speaker 5: into it on a weekly basis to see kind of

789
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Speaker 5: the first.

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Speaker 2: Year labor after that's the payoff. That's the payoff, right there?

791
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Speaker 2: Is that is that feeling in the locker room. That's it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take our last break. Questions from our audience

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Speaker 2: Scoll Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It's the Cowboys Hour with our very special guest, Zach

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Speaker 3: Markham the Cowboys All Pro Guard. Before we take some

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Speaker 3: questions from our audience. At this stage of your life,

810
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: what do you do in down time?

811
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Speaker 2: Hang with the kids? Honestly?

812
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 3: What about do you ever get just like Zach time.

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00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: My wife's laughing over there, She's like, yeah, you get plenty,

814
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: don't worry. Yeah, yeah, you have the road games. I

815
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Speaker 5: mean these road games, you know, that's kind.

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Speaker 8: Of my.

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Speaker 3: So before they came along, how would you.

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Speaker 5: Have me and my wife always laugh about it. It's

819
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 5: just like our world was just so much different, right

820
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Speaker 5: Like on an off day we could just I just

821
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: want to lay on the couch all day and binge

822
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Speaker 5: watch something.

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00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, so those days are over.

824
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Speaker 5: But you know, a couple of in school, and you know,

825
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: if I'm not getting treatment or rehab and I'm kind

826
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 5: of just hanging with them.

827
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Speaker 4: What's your favorite go to or fun go to time

828
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Speaker 4: with your kids? And why?

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Speaker 2: Man? Big park guys. I love the park. We got

830
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Speaker 2: a couple of nice parks in our neighborhood.

831
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Speaker 3: So your backyards are park yeah, oh yeah, we got

832
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Speaker 3: the or.

833
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: The or swimming.

834
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Speaker 5: They love getting in the pool and obviously we get

835
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Speaker 5: to do that pretty much all round out here.

836
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Speaker 3: What other sports did you enjoy playing.

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Speaker 5: I was a basketball player, like that was my first,

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Speaker 5: uh kind of love of a sport. I love playing basketball.

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Speaker 3: And you were a low post guy.

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00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was played the au circuit, did that whole thing.

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Speaker 5: And then like sophomore or high school, I'm like, you know,

842
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: six three six four center, that's not many though, so uh,

843
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: you always played football, always loved football, but I would

844
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: sack my sophomore high school is when I kind of

845
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: made the transition though, and I still played basketball.

846
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Speaker 2: But like today, this could be something that could take

847
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Speaker 2: me somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I mean, guys who played basketball, would you give you

849
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: a kind of a wide bird you could drive the

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Speaker 3: lane all day if you wanted to, couldn't you.

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00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was. I was decent. I had a

852
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: decent post game. I a nice little short corner jumper.

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Speaker 4: You know, we need the proof.

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00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: We need the proof.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's tek you questions.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, good evening, Zech.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: My name is Rambo.

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Speaker 9: Since you are the best right now and I know

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Speaker 9: you're You've have a bunch of accolades. How much has

861
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Speaker 9: your routine changed as you've stayed in the league more

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Speaker 9: and more years. Is it more intense or do you

863
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 9: kind of scale back a little bit because you know,

864
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Speaker 9: you get these signs from your body tell you, hey,

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Speaker 9: I need to kind of take it easy a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good question. I would say my routine as has

867
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Speaker 2: picked up as.

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Speaker 5: Far as just like the overall care of my body

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Speaker 5: and the time I put into that outside of the building,

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Speaker 5: that has definitely changed. And I'm I'm a routine guy.

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Speaker 5: So if I find something I like, I kind of

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Speaker 5: I stick to it. So for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 5: I've kind of had a similar routine and it makes

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00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: the week pretty pretty easy because you're doing the same

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Speaker 5: thing throughout the week. And so yeah, I've definitely stepped

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00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: that side of it up and obviously you know, during

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Speaker 5: the week of practices and stuff like that, being smart

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Speaker 5: and figuring out the times that that I need to

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Speaker 5: be out there and the reps that I need to

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Speaker 5: get versus h you know, being smart and taking care

881
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 5: of my body and making sure I'm feeling good for

882
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 5: game day.

883
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: Are Are you a routine guy and other aspects of

884
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: your life?

885
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like example, I just do

886
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: like the same thing all the time.

887
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, get dressed the same Yeah, yeah, everything,

888
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 3: But you're not superstitious.

889
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: Not like hardcore superstitious, but there's certain things like I

890
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: would say I do that like would probably be viewed

891
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: as like superstition. Like my pregame routine is like a

892
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 5: very like there's time slots for everything, and uh, you know,

893
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: I've had that one while.

894
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: And if and if something changes, then you did the

895
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: whole fung shueeze.

896
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

897
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 5: Like like a great example last week, we were to

898
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: New York and we you know, we had a little

899
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 5: late start on the bus to get in the stadium

900
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 5: and it's the traffic and got there a little late,

901
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 5: and I didn't hit the panic button, but I was

902
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 5: kind of like this is kind of jacking with my

903
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 5: my pregamer team, but we made it works.

904
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: That my name is Corey.

905
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 10: When you talked about it earlier on the last drive,

906
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: like how y'all kind of ran the same play back

907
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 10: to back. But I feel like with you and Terrence,

908
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 10: like like y'all one of the best with the combos,

909
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 10: and I feel like y'all was getting a lot of

910
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 10: yatists on that side. But together with that question, uh,

911
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 10: is it like does it take continuity but like with

912
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 10: new officer line as far as like Cooper at center

913
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 10: and guy that left tackle for the office of line

914
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 10: to like kind of jail like and you know, weeks

915
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 10: ahead like last week. I mean last night's game probably

916
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 10: be like a stepping stone for getting that continuity to

917
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 10: keep going the weeks go by.

918
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 5: Another good question, I think again, Yeah, that's a great

919
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: question offensive line place, especially like right talked about it tonight.

920
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 5: Five guys on the on the field, we've got to

921
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: be on the same page at all time. So yeah,

922
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: you go through some growing pains with with with new

923
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 5: combinations of players, And you mentioned Terrence, like.

924
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: I think I was thinking about the other day.

925
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: Terrence is the I think he's the longest I've played

926
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 5: with the right tackle by fifth season with him as

927
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: the right guard right tackle. I played with Doug for

928
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: three years and uh LC for three years, and me

929
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: and Terrence been together for five years. So that that

930
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: definitely is a huge part of it when you have

931
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: that continuity with with the same guy and I know

932
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: how he's coming off, I know how I need to

933
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: fit so he can do his job, and so yeah,

934
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 5: that that kind of that that's a huge part of it. So,

935
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: you know, and then with young guys, just about getting

936
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 5: those reps. It's all about those reps together. And you know,

937
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 5: BB and those guys have done a great job of

938
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, starting their their careers off of that.

939
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: When did Bebe first start impressing you.

940
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 5: Well, really, uh, kind of later in training camp, honestly,

941
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: you know, he he was running with the twos a lot,

942
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 5: and and so I didn't get a ton of work

943
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: with them. And then later in training camp he started

944
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 5: getting more reps. And then obviously we got closer to

945
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: the season, he was kind of the guy and you know,

946
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 5: we started getting starting jail it started to jail together

947
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 5: a little bit, and uh, he's going to be a

948
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: very good player here for a long time. I mean

949
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 5: the guy is powerful and smart, tough, plays hard. I mean,

950
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 5: he's everything you want to center.

951
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: When do you remember him first saying you're the guy

952
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: I look up to. You're you're my You're my idol.

953
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I you know, I tried to do, uh,

954
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: you know when we drafted all those guys this year,

955
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: try to reach out to them and because you know,

956
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 5: I know, uh, somebody, it's hard for me to put

957
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 5: myself in in uh you know, see myself in that

958
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: in that that light or whatever. But I remember coming

959
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: here and being in the locker room the first day

960
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: and seeing Witting and Romo and Dez and demarking all

961
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: those guys and be like he smokes like I was

962
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 5: watching these dudes and now they're my teammates, and just

963
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 5: how welcoming they were and how comfortable they made me

964
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: feel early on.

965
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: So I've tried to do that throughout my career.

966
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: When we we've got young players, especially in our room

967
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: is uh, you know, we have our fun, but to

968
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 5: make them feel comfortable and and part of the unit,

969
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 5: so so that you know when we hit the field,

970
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: you know it's it's seamless.

971
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: How much have you appreciated the work ethic that Tyler

972
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: Guiding and Cooper BB have kind of shown, because I

973
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: know I remember in training camp after practices like Guiding

974
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: was working and then Cooper obviously continuing to be growing

975
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: at the center position. So how much have you appreciated that?

976
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: I love it?

977
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: And I mean that's something that we and it was

978
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: it was here before I got here. You know, Tying

979
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 5: and Trapp and those guys kind of set Doug ron

980
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 5: Leary all those guys that there was one way to

981
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 5: do things in our room. And and we've tried to

982
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 5: keep that that standard and that tradition going throughout throughout,

983
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 5: so you know, I mean, I think it makes it

984
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: easy for young guys because you come in and everyone's doing,

985
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 5: you know, things the right way and and preparing the

986
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 5: right way, and it's it's almost like, hey, I don't

987
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: get on the train, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna

988
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: fall off. So trying to make it easy and show

989
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: what the standard is in our room. Still having fun,

990
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I.

991
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: Have a blast.

992
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 5: I mean again, like games like last night, they remind

993
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 5: you like why why you still do it? And why

994
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 5: it's worth putting all that time.

995
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I McCarthy gets the game ball. Yeah,

996
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: what made you guys? This was his first in his

997
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: coaching career, he said, So what.

998
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Made I talked?

999
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: I did say that after the game, I was like,

1000
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: good to get a win in Pittsburgh, and he said

1001
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 5: I think he said it was his first time he

1002
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: ever won in Pittsburgh.

1003
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, since two thousand and eleven, I believe, but yeah,

1004
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: it was.

1005
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 5: I mean he's a if you know coach McCarthy, he's

1006
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 5: as Pittsburgh as it gets, right right. I Mean, the

1007
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: guy's got so much pride in which is awesome.

1008
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: It is awesome.

1009
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: But it's like, that's one of the things I like

1010
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 3: about Pittsburgh.

1011
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: That's what everyone.

1012
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: And I was talking to my brother in law this morning, uh,

1013
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: because he's got some buddies from Pittsburgh, and he's like,

1014
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: no one loves their city more than guys from Pittsburgh.

1015
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, he gave us we had like

1016
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 5: our team meeting before the game, and he was giving

1017
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 5: us the some history on the steel mills and kind

1018
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: of where he grew up, and you could tell how.

1019
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: Much like passion he had for it.

1020
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: This is Mike.

1021
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: This is Mike. Yeah, so it just made a little

1022
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: extra special.

1023
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: After the game, and and was he He's not a

1024
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: really emotional guy, you.

1025
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Know, he kept it. He kept it.

1026
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, he talks about Pittsburgh all the time,

1027
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: so it wasn't like, uh, you know, it wasn't like

1028
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 5: a off of his you know, with his normal speeches

1029
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 5: or whatever. But there was a little extra just about Pittsburgh.

1030
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 5: And he told some stories about growing up and kind

1031
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 5: of the neighborhood he grew up in, and and it

1032
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 5: was pretty cool.

1033
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 4: Did you guys like Pittsburgh. I didn't get to travel,

1034
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 4: so I'm just asking, oh, yeah.

1035
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't leave the hotel, but.

1036
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 5: It's a cool I mean, it's all those kind of

1037
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: rust Belt cities are really cool and there's a lot

1038
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 5: of history, and you just tell that those communities are

1039
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: very tight, right, which is a cool atmosphere.

1040
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't I didn't leave the hotel this time either,

1041
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 3: but I have in the past that there's just gorgeous,

1042
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 3: beautiful topography and and the people are real.

1043
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.

1044
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 3: The people are real. And you're a Midwestern guy, Okay,

1045
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 3: do you do you ever everything someday I'm gonna miss.

1046
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 5: This, Yeah, obviously, I mean there's a shoot I've put,

1047
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 5: uh last decade plus of my life has been dedicated

1048
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: to this organization. And you know, whenever that time is,

1049
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 5: it's it's definitely gonna gonna be tough.

1050
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: All right, Well it's not.

1051
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: Yet, It's definitely not yet.

1052
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: Still stuff to do. This is the all pro Zach Martin.

1053
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: Thank him for being with us. Well, you really appreciate it,

1054
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: especially especially after last night. And uh we will be

1055
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: back next week. Nicole and I on the Monday, going

1056
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: into the by after Detroit right here at Sidecars Social

1057
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: on our next Cowboys Hour.

1058
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,239
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1059
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,600
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