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Speaker 1: on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. Gentlemen, the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl is set. But before we talk about it,

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Speaker 1: I want to bitch and moan and complain for a

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Speaker 1: second because I live in New Jersey. Superform Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to let you telling myself for the last

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Speaker 1: five and a half hours outside shoveling snow and plowing

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Speaker 1: snow is like, at least the Patriots are in the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. There was a wall of ice, Bodmin. You

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Speaker 1: are a Game of Thrones guy. You know on the

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Speaker 1: wall where John Snow is. You know that thing of

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Speaker 1: ice and snow that was at the end of my

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Speaker 1: driveway because all the plows and the main drag just

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Speaker 1: come down, shooting down to keep an hour. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's like chipping away a piece of the time. I

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Speaker 1: it all once and then be done with it.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, the patriad dragon for that, believe.

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Speaker 1: That's right, undead dragon and Welsh. You wore sandals yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so how does that feel? Yeah? I was.

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Speaker 3: It was like sixty four sixty five something like that,

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Speaker 3: not that degree. I wore sandals.

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Speaker 1: What is that, audience, It's it's I got my hand

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Speaker 1: over my other hands and there's one finger. I don't

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Speaker 3: So my kid demonetized there. Yeah. I did not experience

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Speaker 3: all of what you were just going through.

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Speaker 2: But oh, crime a river.

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Speaker 3: My team did the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Team in the Super Bowl again. We were so bad

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Speaker 2: for seven years and now we're back in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Me all right, Well, let's break down the games what

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Speaker 1: we say while we're looking forward to we're gonna a

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Speaker 1: little Factor fiction with some NFL coaches and some other things.

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Speaker 1: Here we'll do our quick first take on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the entertaining game, the evening game, the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game, final score, Seattle thirty one, Rams twenty seven. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 1: these two teams in division, they're matched up very evenly.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some really fun contests. This game went over

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Speaker 1: the point total that we were set here in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and the Rams of course once again had a chance

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Speaker 1: to win it. And once again the Rams Special teams

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Speaker 1: is their undoing. All year, the Rams Special Teams has

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Speaker 1: put them in bad positions, bad situations, and here it

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Speaker 1: was again that first it was like a foreshadowing box.

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Speaker 1: It was like an a novel because he bobbled the

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Speaker 1: first one, the kick returner, and then you saw that

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Speaker 1: Then you have in the second half the incredible stop

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Speaker 2: A really bad series of events for Serriko.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I'm gonna ask you at that point,

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Speaker 2: How could you not? I mean you had to. You

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Speaker 2: Welsh about your takeaways from this game here you know

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Speaker 2: the the roller coaster that it was. And also give

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Speaker 1: That was Ericson's favorite bet. We talked about the three touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: I would like the record. I was the worst better

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Speaker 3: I don't forget when I was not so great this week.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna remember that one making up for the AFC ones.

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Speaker 3: I like that we're jumping into takeaways because I'll give

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Speaker 3: online a little bit. Geno Smith is legitimately maybe the

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Speaker 3: worst quarterback of all time Geno Smith. For years, Geno

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Speaker 3: Smith left a fine Seahawks team that then immediately went

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Speaker 3: But I really thought the I thought the Rams had

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Speaker 3: but you know, Sam Darnold in what he was able

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Speaker 3: we can we can be Looche today.

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Speaker 1: There's really not a lot going on. We got, you know,

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Speaker 1: these it's basically recapping these games and a quick look ahead.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look, it was an incredible performance

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Speaker 1: Three hundred yards, no picks, and we had three touchdowns

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Speaker 3: It's going to be like Tom Brady in some way.

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Speaker 1: It's not Tom Brady in somebody it's actually more recent

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Speaker 3: It, it was I can't.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in that crazy game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was incredible.

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Speaker 3: But jump back, jump back to it. So my moment

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Speaker 3: because this works, this is in this game is just

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Speaker 3: I thought Matthew Stafford was just like a demon out

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. It was the consistency, specifically in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. I mean dagger death shots on that final

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Speaker 3: to just Vegabont players, you know, Cooper Cup becoming relevant

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Speaker 3: in that game. So like Sam Donald was enough. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying and I'm not even trying to allude

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Speaker 1: Perfect Sam Donald, the perfect Porridge. I like that. That's

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm just not cultured enough. Like we're

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Speaker 3: us are actually about to uh extend upon New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what like Jumbalaya is or anything

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Speaker 2: Going to go home speaking Cajun, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Get that out of Sam.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So my takeaway, I mean Walsh it his takeaway,

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Speaker 1: which is also you know, from this game, and my

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Speaker 1: has always been there own doing. I mean you've seen

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Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest with you, two box I

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Speaker 1: thought for sure it was out of bounce And it

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Speaker 1: was a fantastic No one ever talks about this. It

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Speaker 1: was a fantastic call by the refs. He was absolutely

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Speaker 1: nailing that in the in the right you know, in

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Speaker 1: real time at that moment. There any other thoughts on

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Speaker 1: this game, two bogs, you want to you know, give

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of feel great for Cooper

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Speaker 2: Seth put the porge define Yeah, I see. It's a

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Speaker 1: certainly one that was all week nothing, but this weird, Like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear about Jared ssdont want

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Speaker 2: I think had it it makes it a two score game.

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Speaker 3: Talking about essentially one to two plays this entire game

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Speaker 3: This game, that was completely taken away. So I think

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna crack this up, which is the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: football team. They deserve the one seed they earn, the

435
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Speaker 1: one seed they deserve. They have earned to go to

436
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But it's funny because the narrative we

437
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 1: keep hearing is the Seattle defense, right, And you know

438
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Speaker 1: what I heard last week, the Denver Broncos defense. You

439
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 1: know what I heard the week before that, the Houston

440
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,239
Speaker 1: Texans defense. And you know what I heard before that,

441
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers defense. The New England Patriots have

442
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,719
Speaker 1: given up twenty six points in the playoffs. The Seattle

443
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 1: Seahawks give up twenty seven last night. Don't tell me

444
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Speaker 1: about all these other defenses, and stop talking about the

445
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Speaker 1: Newingland Patriots defense. Because when the Patriots defense is healthy,

446
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 1: the secondary is really good and against the run they

447
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: are really good. Bogs, you're a defensive guy, what is

448
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Speaker 1: your take on the Patriots defense? Because I think that

449
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Speaker 1: they and now that they're underdogs, are gonna keep playing

450
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Speaker 1: this Underdoug narrative. This where the road Warriors. They've won

451
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Speaker 1: nine road games nine to oh. That's a record in

452
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Speaker 1: the NFL. No one has ever done that in the

453
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Speaker 1: history of the NFL. What are your thoughts are You're

454
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Speaker 1: on the Patriots defense because I think this is a scheming,

455
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Speaker 1: it's getting this game, gonna use this, right, They're gonna

456
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Speaker 1: use this.

457
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Speaker 2: Let me talk shoe this playoffs, the skiming in the

458
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Speaker 2: playoffs has been outstanding by New England. It really has been.

459
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Speaker 2: They have been, uh just in the mind of whoever

460
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Speaker 2: they're playing for these last three games, it has been

461
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Speaker 2: really an incredible run by this defense. And I think

462
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Speaker 2: gets spearheaded by Milton Williams returning right, like absolutely returning

463
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Speaker 2: and being comfortable. This is what won the Eagles in

464
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year was the strength of their defense, right,

465
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Speaker 2: and Milton Williams was right in the middle of that,

466
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Speaker 2: and he makes everyone around him better. We saw Christian

467
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Speaker 2: Barmore get to the quarterback. We've seen Klavey and Chase

468
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Speaker 2: on play like the first round pick he was whatever

469
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Speaker 2: eight years ago. He's finally living up to that. I'm

470
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Speaker 2: worried about Bob's playing, you know, in his status for

471
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Speaker 2: this game. That's obviously huge. But the secondary has been

472
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Speaker 2: good as well. I know Christian Gonzalez has had a

473
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Speaker 2: couple like grabby penalties and stuff like that, but Marcus

474
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Speaker 2: Jones has been good and he's a good special team

475
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Speaker 2: or you're not going to have that Xavier Smith screw

476
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Speaker 2: up from the Patriots on special teams. But I think

477
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Speaker 2: the uh, you know, the Seahawks on offense have been

478
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Speaker 2: hammering away as well. I really think that is the

479
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Speaker 2: matchup to watch in this Super Bowl, in particular because

480
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Speaker 2: I do think, you know, Drake May is going to

481
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Speaker 2: make plays. I think Seattle defense is going to make plays.

482
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be who wins that side

483
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Speaker 2: of the ball, the Patriots on defense and Sam Donald

484
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Speaker 2: and the Seahawks on offense. Who wins that game is

485
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Speaker 2: going to tilt this one. If the Seahawks are able

486
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Speaker 2: to move the ball, I think it's going to be

487
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks pushing and outscoring the Patriots. But if Sam

488
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Speaker 2: Donald is seeing ghost again and they're getting to him,

489
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Speaker 2: I think this might be, you know, one of those

490
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Speaker 2: boring New England Patriots old school super bowls where they

491
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Speaker 2: you know, it's twenty to ten and everyone's like, oh,

492
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Speaker 2: what a boring game in the Patriots just grind him

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Speaker 2: into dirt.

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Speaker 1: It's verminiscent to me Welsh of that first Super Bowl

495
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Speaker 1: that Brady went to where they're playing the greatest show

496
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Speaker 1: on turf and everyone's like, well, Rams are in a

497
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Speaker 1: different class than the Patriots, and they were except defensively,

498
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Speaker 1: and that defense was a very good defense and a

499
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Speaker 1: very underrated defense, and They kept talking about how great

500
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Speaker 1: the Rams were and everything the Rams could do, and

501
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Speaker 1: they use that and they are underdogs. I've seen some

502
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Speaker 1: lines where look, most of the line right now is

503
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Speaker 1: four and a half here, where they are underdogs. I've

504
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Speaker 1: seen five and a half and a couple of markets here.

505
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Speaker 1: But to me, this is exactly what Mike Vrabel wants

506
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Speaker 1: them to be. He wants them to be underdogs, he

507
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Speaker 1: wants them to be the warriors, he wants them to

508
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Speaker 1: be all this stuff. To me, this plays right into

509
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Speaker 1: the hand of the Patriots in terms of motivation. And

510
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Speaker 1: I like the Pats in this game. And it's knockcas

511
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Speaker 1: I'm a Patriots fan. I'm telling you it is not.

512
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Speaker 1: There's plenty of times even I was on Denver yesterday

513
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Speaker 1: in terms of not winning the game, but covering, and

514
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Speaker 1: that was the right side of the game to be

515
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Speaker 1: on because it was five and a half when it opened.

516
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to be on the Patriots side of

517
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Speaker 1: this game right now. Where are you at with this

518
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Speaker 1: defense of the Patriots and the underdog story they have now.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you guys are like saying a lot

520
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Speaker 3: of stuff that just equates to this is gonna be

521
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Speaker 3: a boring game. This is gonna be just like any

522
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Speaker 3: offensive minded person's nightmare of a Super Bowl, where we're

523
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Speaker 3: gonna be like, we're gonna run a bit over and

524
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be just like ten to three at.

525
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Speaker 2: Halftime the Rams and Patriot halftimes Jared Goff.

526
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Speaker 3: It's just gonna not be exactly right, like they're gonna

527
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Speaker 3: run the ball, They're gonna have to try to have

528
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Speaker 3: slow pace. It's really really good defenses, Like this is

529
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Speaker 3: gonna just be a slow paced game. But because of that,

530
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Speaker 3: I don't think, like I Sam Donald's fine, Like I

531
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Speaker 3: don't want to put him in the class of Jared

532
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Speaker 3: Sidham or CJ. Stroud, like those guys stink, Like those

533
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Speaker 3: are stinky quarterbacks. But Sam Donald is like in the

534
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Speaker 3: next tier looking down like he's a fine, good game

535
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Speaker 3: manager who has one of the best wide receivers in

536
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Speaker 3: the game in Jackson Smith and Jigba. That will be

537
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Speaker 3: the Patriots focus to shut him down. They're gonna have

538
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Speaker 3: a ton of first half runs, which is likely gonna

539
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Speaker 3: set up play action in the second half kind of

540
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Speaker 3: just like they did here. And it's just gonna be

541
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Speaker 3: like a slow paced game. But Because of all of that,

542
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Speaker 3: I think it's game is going to be close. So

543
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: you know what wrong or right? I mean, Ericson was

544
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: dead on. His favorite bet was the Patriots winning, but

545
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: the Broncos covering, and it was such a kind of

546
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: same model, was the same funny enough, Yeah, and I'm

547
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Speaker 3: with that here. I thought the Patriots were going. I

548
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: thought they could cover in that last game. I think

549
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Speaker 3: the Patriots at four and a half some plots you're

550
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Speaker 3: seeing five and a half, I'm going to take that

551
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Speaker 3: because this feels like a field goal game, because this

552
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like a game where either offense is going

553
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Speaker 3: to take over at any singular point. So I'm not

554
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Speaker 3: going to be surprised when this game comes down to

555
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Speaker 3: a field goal. So at four and a half, I

556
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Speaker 3: like the Patriots. I think the Patriots can win this

557
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Speaker 3: game as well. Emf up.

558
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Speaker 1: Also, in that game yesterday, Bob, something that suck out

559
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Speaker 1: to me is Donald took some bad sacks and some

560
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Speaker 1: big sacks in a couple of those moments in that game.

561
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Speaker 1: And they you know, the rams again being the rams

562
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Speaker 1: that secondary sometimes we'll just let you get back in

563
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Speaker 1: the game, but you know, the rams are also another

564
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Speaker 1: team too, where I want to give them credit because

565
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Speaker 1: they have a great head coach and a great quarterback

566
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Speaker 1: and a couple of really talented players and weapons. But

567
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: the rams let teams hang around all year. This is

568
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Speaker 1: what they did. This is why they lost to the

569
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers in the regular season. That's why they almost

570
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Speaker 1: lost to the Bears last week. I mean, all these

571
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Speaker 1: other things I'm telling you right now, I think this

572
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Speaker 1: narrative where Seattle is this unbeatable force in this heavy favorite,

573
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Speaker 1: I think is nonsense. What was your takeaway to we

574
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Speaker 1: did our takeaways, Bob, what we were takeaway from this

575
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Speaker 1: week's of AFC and NFC championship games.

576
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Speaker 2: I mean, my takeaway is I hate the Steelers decision

577
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Speaker 2: making and head coach. That's my takeaway.

578
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Speaker 1: That's not a game. We can get to that later

579
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Speaker 1: in the show. We'll talk.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm glad to finally have some new faces at

581
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: quarterback in the super Bowl. That is my takeaway. Like

582
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Speaker 2: I'm glad that we saw Sam Donald there, and I'm

583
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Speaker 2: glad he made it right. Like, honestly, this is a

584
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Speaker 2: really good story. This is win or don't win the

585
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl doesn't matter for Sam Donald. At this point,

586
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: like he has proven himself to everyone that doubted him,

587
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: and that's me included. Like I didn't like JSN for

588
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: Phantasy this year because I thought man Sam Donald is

589
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: to make it to the end of the year, because

590
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: they did put that, like they put that little lever

591
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: in his contract where he you know, they could push

592
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: him out after one year if it didn't work, if

593
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: he's seeing ghosts and he was just like a product

594
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: of Kevin O'Connell, right, which the Vikings showed us and

595
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Sam Donald showed us that that was not the case. Right,

596
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: He wasn't just a product of Kevin O'Connell. He is

597
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: a much improved quarterback from where hell was with the Jets.

598
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Speaker 2: So I think it's really cool for him. You know,

599
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: I hate the fact that the Patriots fans get to

600
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Speaker 2: see their team in the super Bowl again, but I

601
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: like the fact that Drake May got them there because

602
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: he's a good quarterback. And this is what we need.

603
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: We need better quarterback play in the NFL because we

604
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Speaker 2: have we don't have enough quarterbacks. There are you know,

605
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Speaker 2: the top fifty quarterbacks on Earth are in the NFL,

606
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Speaker 2: and maybe seventeen or eighteen of them are really worthy

607
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Speaker 2: of leading a franchise, and the other the rest of

608
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Speaker 2: them are kind of ech. They're either old, or they're

609
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Speaker 2: too inexperienced, or they're just not good enough. There's not

610
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 2: a lot of good quarterback plays, so to get some

611
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: fresh meat in there, I think is a lot of

612
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: fun for everybody watching the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And this is a great point on the quarterbacks because Joe,

614
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: we've gone thirty minutes. How much longer are you going

615
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: to bury the lead? We've talked about all the Super

616
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: Bowl nonsense. Yeah, that Shador Sanders made the Pro Bowl, Like,

617
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: how much longer are we going to not talk?

618
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Speaker 1: Well, that's clearly the big story our mutual.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Dan Strafford had my favorite social media post in the

621
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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours since the end of these games,

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Speaker 1: which is he's a he's a Jets fan, which is

623
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Speaker 1: a crossy Bears, but he said this is a nightmare

624
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: super Bowl for Jets fans. He said, you've got the

625
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Patriots and Sam Darnold. He said, I'll be rooting for

626
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Speaker 1: the Asteroid And I thought that was a fantastic tweet.

627
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: I thought that, well, excellent, you used.

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Speaker 3: The wrong analogy we're supposed to do for California's you're

629
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Speaker 3: gonna say you're gonna be rooting for the earthquake. That's

630
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Speaker 3: the thing that we have always used as someone that

631
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: was born in.

632
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Speaker 2: The far stupid ass conspiracy theory about the EMF. Let's

633
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: root for the EMF to.

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Speaker 1: Shred everything conspiracy theory is the perfect segue here. In

635
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, the NFL put out a

636
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Speaker 1: little graphic about the road to the Super Bowl, right

637
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: and here it is. There's Barkley and Perry and Joe

638
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: Burrow and Patrick Mahomes and t. J. Watt and all

639
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: these teams getting closer and closer. But the two guys

640
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: that you can't even see until you actually we can.

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Speaker 3: We let's enhance.

642
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: Let's enhance this. The closing guys to the Super Bowl

643
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: to the stadium happened to be Drake May and Sam Darnold,

644
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: which has the conspiracy theorist going crazy. The tinfoil hat

645
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: squad was out last night in force.

646
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Speaker 2: Which is hilarious, so sick of people.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing about it, Boggs, is they're so tiny

648
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Speaker 1: and they're in the front. Because everybody thought this is

649
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: probably the least possible scenario we're.

650
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Gonna get yesterday.

651
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they just had to add to they were

652
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: in there. We got a Drake may And and Sam

653
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Donald in there.

654
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: But hilarious, guys, know that you know this isn't real

655
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: because put that back up. Put that back up real quick,

656
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: because I want to want to see something. You know,

657
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: this isn't a real conspiracy because why would they have

658
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: put two a tongue of Iola in that graphic whatsoever?

659
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: If there was any reality any of it. This is not,

660
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: This is nothing.

661
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: It's just funny that they are the closest to it.

662
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: But they're also the tiniest, which is really what it's about.

663
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: The teams that are furthest away, like they're like cam

664
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: Ward is back there. It's funny to put Baker Mayfield

665
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: so far away, but maybe they knew it was.

666
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Number one right there next to Drake.

667
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, my eyes are my eyes can.

668
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, oh no, you're right.

669
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: You're right to the left Ward Award.

670
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Neighbors.

671
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: All the way to the right is Travis Hunter.

672
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: We did put rookies on what a stupid graphic?

673
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, stupid graphic. Fun nonetheless, all right, so we did

674
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: all of our takeaways moments of Sunday.

675
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

676
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: For me, it's the Drake May running for that first down,

677
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: putting that game away in the snow. I mean, that was.

678
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: It was so tense. I kept saying eight minutes to

679
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, seven minutes of the super Bowl. I

680
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: was literally every minute, like five minutes of the super Bowl,

681
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: that's all I kept counting down. And Drake May making

682
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: that play at the end, and look, he had a

683
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: great day. To run the football was all he could do.

684
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Surtan is just unbelievable. If you were to write

685
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: a book about how to cover I mean, it's it.

686
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: He is so good, He's so fun to watch, and

687
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: he was just he just anybody on him. Yesterday we

688
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: could not catch a football box. What was your big

689
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: moment of Championship Sunday?

690
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Not kicking the field goal? That that is really that's

691
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: the moment man, Like I just it happened so many

692
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: times to so many teams throughout the playoffs, you would

693
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: think that with a backup quarterback, even at home, you

694
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: would learn specifically with the blizzard coming on on the

695
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: way and all that stuff, like this game that was

696
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: that was the difference in the entire game and it's

697
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: a bad decision and I know, you know, our boys

698
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: stink BANGIONI mentioned that Sean Payton will always be a

699
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: risk taker, and that's true, but I just think he

700
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: got a little too cute with it there and it

701
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: costs you a chance at the super Bowl. Because the

702
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: Patriots only put up ten points, you could they could

703
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: still be playing in overtime right now.

704
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, Welsh for you, what was your big moment

705
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: of the weekend?

706
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: Oh, we already did it, We already did mine. Mine

707
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: was the fourth quarter with the Seahawks and Sam Darnold,

708
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: like his ability to continuously get those completions and critical spot,

709
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: Like every piece in me thought like, Okay, they're going

710
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: to not get one of these downs, They're going to

711
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: kick it and the Rams are going to have a

712
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: minute and a half, two minutes. You know that they

713
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: were going to just run the ball, they're gonna get

714
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: stopped and we're gonna have this classic great drive And

715
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: it was like nope. They ended up just continuously converting

716
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: those until there was what twenty seconds left and they

717
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: punted him down. Like I thought, how Darnald managed the

718
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: game and was able to manage like those completions and

719
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: do the wild things, you know, Bobo touchdown, Cooper Cup

720
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: third down connection like that. It really did prove as

721
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: much as I hate the Seahawks, like, you know, his

722
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: ability to not just be some game managy type of quarterback,

723
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: but just to be like a solid fit for that

724
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: offense and he'll get it done.

725
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: It was a nice moment there for Cooper Cup. Also,

726
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: they're definitely getting it too. I mean, he's not the

727
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: same player he used to be, but he left it

728
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: all out there. And I'm gonna say this too, when

729
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: you have those big emotional games, and I think that's

730
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: a very it's an emotional game for Cooper Cup, it's

731
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: emotional game for Sam Darnold. Emotional game. You're playing the Rams,

732
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: your division rival. Sometimes they feel like there's a little

733
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: bit of a letdown after that. And we've seen this

734
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: sometimes with other teams in the past, where they play

735
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: this giant, emotionable championship game and it's a little hard

736
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: to like kind of reinflate the balloon and get up

737
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl a little bit. And we've seen

738
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: it happen many times throughout the history of the NFL.

739
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: So That's another thing too that I think is on

740
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots side here, and everyone thinks I'm a homer,

741
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I don't care. I was right about

742
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. I'm gonna be right about this

743
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: one too, and then everyone can.

744
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: I have to spend four days with this guy and

745
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: Andrew all day long. And by the way, if you're

746
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: out in New Orleans, you hit us up. I don't

747
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: know if we're going to do any meet up whatever.

748
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to be with Joe and Ericsson for four

749
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: days listening to this in between the scene. Believable.

750
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: It is what it is. All right, Let's do a

751
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: little factor fiction. If you've got one to get drop

752
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: put in the chat here if you're live. Let's start with,

753
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: as promised, the Pittsburgh Steelers Factor fiction. Pittsburgh native Mike

754
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: McCarthy will win a playoff game as a Steeler head coach.

755
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Bogs By, don't you kick this one off?

756
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Fiction?

757
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: Playoffs?

758
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Fiction? No, one playoff game.

759
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: You have to make the playoffs. Who is the quarterback

760
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: right now?

761
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Well, he's the best coach in that division, isn't he?

762
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: Nine and eight gets you in the playoffs a second,

763
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: but they playoff in a damn decade.

764
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear any of the best

765
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: coach in this division.

766
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: Now, Jesse Minner is the best coach in this division.

767
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: Now I text Bogman about it. I kind of thought

768
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: he might be happy, and.

769
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Why hold on? A crime has just happened here. What

770
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: is your problem? How long have you known me? You

771
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: thought I was gonna be happy about this? Why give

772
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: me one reason?

773
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't know that he'd won games before.

774
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: He'll give me a damn break, Give me a break.

775
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: You thought i'd be happy. You never thought i'd be happy.

776
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: That's the most insulting thing you've ever said about me

777
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: in my life.

778
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: How would he get Aaron Rodgers back? And Rodgers hates him?

779
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: They hate each No, I don't know that that didn't

780
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: That marriage ended very to me.

781
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Now, this this feels to me like, okay, well, now

782
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: I know why Kenny Pickett was the first pick. And

783
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: this was kind of my conspiracy theory about it the

784
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: whole time. I thought, Okay, well he's from Pittsburgh. Ownership

785
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: wants him.

786
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

787
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the next chance you have to make an

788
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: altering decision about this, franchise. You picked the pittsburgher again,

789
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: like maybe McCarthy will be okay, maybe he'll be better

790
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: than I think. But I think that there were young

791
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: minds just like you know out there, like Shula, like Silhouse.

792
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: I just think it was shortsighted to hire a sixty

793
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: two year old head coach. This feels like an Arthur

794
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Blank move, right, Like I want to win the Super

795
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: Bowl before I croak, so let's get an experience guy

796
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: in here. And I think it was just a terrible,

797
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: terrible move.

798
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't like it. This was great, this is this

799
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: was well worth the wait. I gotta say, if you're

800
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: watching one a playoff game, I think they won a

801
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: playoff game too. Look at us.

802
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna be alive.

803
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

804
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the state, the state of

805
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: your anger.

806
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know you're gonna say no after the state

807
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: of the anger, I'm gonna say fiction.

808
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: I still have the worst quarterback in the division too,

809
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: Remember Shador, Pro Bowler, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Will Howard.

810
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: Let's go.

811
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: You know it's funny bugs the one time they didn't

812
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: go after the Pittsburgh quarterback or the Pittsburgh guy quote

813
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: unquote with Dan Marino. They had a shot there. Good

814
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: at Dan Marino.

815
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: And we're still living it down. I know you guys

816
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: want Philip Rivers. You could finally have gotten Philip Rivers

817
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: on your pro could.

818
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: Have finally gotten Philip Rivers.

819
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, doctor fiction. Jesse Minter can get the

820
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Ravens over the hump, Welsh.

821
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not sure. I would say over the John

822
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: Harbot did a pretty good job, like yeah, but.

823
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: They haven't done to a super Bowl with Lamar, so.

824
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess if you're saying as a re I mean,

825
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: I love all the rumors. By the way of like

826
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: them trading Lamar, there's no chance. There's absolutely the team

827
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: clearly picked their side between all the issues that looked

828
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: like Lamar and Harbaugh that then people were shipping Lamar out.

829
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: It was like, no, guys, like they picked which the

830
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: person they were going with, and it's Lamar Jackson. He

831
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: will be there forever. Yeah, I mean I think the

832
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: Ravens are I mean, Mike McCarthy kind of Mike McCarthy

833
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: might get the Ravens over the hump. If we're being honest,

834
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: it might not be mentor, So I'm gonna say, sure, yeah,

835
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 3: that'll be a fing mentor.

836
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: Did a great job, And I thought I thought it

837
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: was gonna take much longer of improving that Chargers defense

838
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: when Staley lets go to the defense was in miserable shape,

839
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: and he really did mold it well with the players

840
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: he has, and I feel like he has better ingredients

841
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: in Baltimore.

842
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: Right now, All right, let's get to the next one here. Actually,

843
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: let's take a couple from everybody else here, better call

844
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Bob factor fiction. Bill leaves North Carolina to become Bill Belichick.

845
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: Believe we're talking about to become a coach of Josh

846
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Allen a hard fiction here. Nobody's touching Bill Belichick at

847
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: his age, not to mention all the whatever is going

848
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: on with the girlfriend, Like what is she going to

849
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: be making the draft Buffalo?

850
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: So wouldn't you you want to know?

851
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: It's funny Bill Belichick with his girlfriend Jordan whatever she is,

852
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: like if you guys follow baseball, she is the toxic

853
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: thing to Bill Belichick, as Franbervaldez can't get a job

854
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: because he threw it his catcher, Like there there can

855
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: be these singular things that hold back organizations from wanting

856
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: to invest. I do not think it is hyperbole to

857
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: say that the Jordan girlfriend is maybe one of the

858
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: absolute reasons why no one wants any part of BELLI

859
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 3: is wors it also is showing.

860
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: I think it's worse than the age.

861
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: I think it's I don't even think it's a question.

862
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: It's worse than the age. I think not only is

863
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: she just a problem, but it also like creates this

864
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: bigger scope of like his decision making scene. I mean,

865
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: you could argu you at one point is decision making

866
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: is pretty slick. But I think there's another element you

867
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: could say, like, oh, his decision making is horrific right now,

868
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: and nobody wants.

869
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: A part of it. And bog's your fiction on that too, Yeah, yeah,

870
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: hard fiction, all right, messer grim factor fiction. Bengals make

871
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, unfortunately securing Zach Taylor for another

872
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: five years as head coach.

873
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Bo Joe Burrow's decision. By the way, Joe Burrow likes

874
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. That is why Zach Taylor still has a job.

875
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: That's it, right, Just like Lamar wanting Harball out, and

876
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: that's probably why Harbaugh doesn't have a job or isn't

877
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: working for the Ravens anymore. You know, I think Zach

878
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Taylor staying with Sincy is all on Joe Burrow. So

879
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: I think as long as Joe Burrow's in Sincy, Zach

880
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: Taylor is in Sinsey. Yeah.

881
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: What's the question? Is it about the Bengals making the

882
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: playoffs or Zach Taylor getting locked.

883
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Up for.

884
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think the Bengals are smart to give

885
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: anybody an extension, a long term extension after the the

886
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: lack of success that they have had into the Super

887
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Bowl in Joe Burrow's first year, but they they have

888
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: been fairly miserable after that, so it'd be hard to

889
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: give him a long term extension like that. Maybe two

890
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: or three years, maybe you'll get an extension, but not five.

891
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have to win a playoff game to

892
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: me to get any sort of extent.

893
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: He probably not the Super Bowl. Did they have to

894
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: win the division and make a deep run going away?

895
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, make a differen you lose the AFC Championship game. Okay,

896
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: speaking of losing an the AFC Championship game, Buffalo Bills,

897
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: did they make a mistake firing Sean McDermott. This season

898
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Welsh factor fiction, I think, But the way there's so

899
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: many coaching openings and not enough candidates, and the fact

900
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: that they did it later, like you know what I mean,

901
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: Like they had to wait because he was still their coach.

902
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: So unless they come up.

903
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: They missed on the Harbor thing because.

904
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: They Mestefanski and now it's down to Kubiak, I mean,

905
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe a Shulo, Like I don't know which way they

906
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: want to go, but is factor fiction? They made the

907
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: right decision there, you know.

908
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that it's actually a fact. Still,

909
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: I I get what you're getting at, and I think

910
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: like hindsight and if knowing, you know, I mean, I

911
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: the Tomlin thing is like he's not going to coach whatever.

912
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: But like it was like.

913
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: Domlin and there was Harbaugh, and there was all these

914
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: greats that were kind of floating out there and then

915
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: that passed them by. But I still think like Bogman

916
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: would kill for any of those young guys like Kubiak

917
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: and Shula, like you're talking about they're floating out there

918
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: so that they can turn to that direction. I think

919
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: you're still okay, So I'm going to say that it's

920
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: a fact.

921
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: Bogs Yeah, I think it's fine that they fired Sean McDermott.

922
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: I think that he's a little bit too much of

923
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: a heart oh when it comes to stuff. He wasn't

924
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: really willing to relent on a lot of things, and

925
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: I think that it was about time, Like it just

926
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: seemed like they were never gonna because you end up

927
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: in the Marvin Lewis Mike Tomlin type circle if you

928
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: don't make a change somewhere, and they weren't getting over

929
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: the hump with Sean McDermott. So it was still shocking.

930
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: I think you make it deep in the playoffs and

931
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: then you fire your coach like this, specifically with the

932
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: weirdness coming with the press conference afterwards with Pegula, that

933
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: was very strange, right, So, uh, it feels dysfunctional this firing.

934
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it was the wrong move.

935
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it was, you know what it is,

936
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: by the way, I just want to point out and

937
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: maybe this is like am dating myself or I'm just

938
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: missing others, but to me, this is the Mariucci. I

939
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: felt like, when if you know, people are old enough.

940
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: When Steve Merriucci got let go with the forty nine ers,

941
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: he had made the playoffs and he had like led

942
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: this team to like a lot of success, but like

943
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: they were they clearly, and I don't feel like that

944
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: was happening maybe a lot, or maybe at all in

945
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: the NFL prior to that, where it was like this

946
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: is a winning every single year coach got them to

947
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs and the team was like, we gotta switch

948
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: it up and we got to get him out of here.

949
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: And I feel like this is the I call that

950
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: the Marrucci where it's like, oh, we got into the

951
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: playoffs and then they're firing, and then it's become a

952
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: lot more prevalence. And I was like twenty something years ago,

953
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: and I feel like it kind of started in.

954
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: That, all right, we've got a couple more let's let's

955
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: bang these out here real quick. Robert Salah is the

956
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: right guy for the Tennessee Titans.

957
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Factor fiction bugs a hundred percent. I love this higher

958
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: and they were, I think they were ready to go

959
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: a different way, and then sala came in and blew

960
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: the doors off of the interview and they were like,

961
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: this is a guy for us. Obviously done dirty by

962
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: the Jets. So yeah, I mean, great hire by Tennessee.

963
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: I feel like I agree. I think it's fact. I

964
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: think he's going to change the culture. He's a good

965
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: football guy. He's a good guy, he's a good head coach.

966
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Things just unravel with the Jets and a lot of it.

967
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I think it's him.

968
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: And where do Liam Cohen shaking hands twice a year?

969
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: That's gonna be great.

970
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: Dude, you literally took what I was going to say,

971
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: like underrated in that whole thing is Sala got closer

972
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: so he can have Cohen try to step up to

973
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: him a nice you don't want, you don't want.

974
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: To get up and I got solid. I also have.

975
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: Just slightly want to point out how everybody was just

976
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: a defensive mind. Four nits defense was the biggest piece

977
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: of trash the whole year, and Sala was at the forefront. Yeah,

978
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: they were injured and stuff like that. But it's a

979
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: great hire. It's a good culture higher. He needs to

980
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: get a really good offensive mine aide beside him, though,

981
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, obviously get some healthy defensive pieces.

982
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a great higher.

983
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: All right. The Dolphins will be looking for a new

984
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: head coach again two years after the latest hire. Welsh

985
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: factor fiction. Fact. I agree.

986
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: Fact easy, Yep.

987
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean I heard the first interview and I was

988
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: just like, yep, And Bob you brought up when we

989
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that he was at BC

990
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: and he left as soon as the transferport.

991
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: It got hardly Yeah, that that is. You know, it's

992
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: just very strange. I just you know, for your first

993
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: head coaching gig in the NFL to be in Miami,

994
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a hard It's a hard place

995
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: to get those guys to concentrate and.

996
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: Bring Nick Saban back place better.

997
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: There you go, last one here, the Patriots Road Warriors

998
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: watched the movie Warriors, classic cult seventies film, come out

999
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: and play factor fiction. I'm the only one of the

1000
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: three of us who has seen the Warriors film. I'm

1001
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna say it's a fact because I know I have,

1002
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think you guys have You've seen the Warriors.

1003
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I'm shocked by this Warriors and then like

1004
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: you know, into like was it the outsiders.

1005
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: Outside Warriors is weird. Warriors is super trippy and weird,

1006
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: and and you got the guys who dressed up in

1007
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: the baseball jerseys and the outfits there, like the full pants,

1008
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: like the full uniforms with the baseball bags and the

1009
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: weird face like that is a weird ass like you

1010
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: feel like you're on some kind of substance movie.

1011
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: There was a really good time like in the late

1012
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: because it wasn't that in the seventies. There's a really

1013
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: time in the late seventies where there was just like

1014
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: a bunch.

1015
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: Of weird ex everybody in that movie.

1016
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: Everybody was just like super tripped out off of the

1017
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: sixties and we hadn't got quite into the weird to

1018
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: eighties like and there was just like a bunch of

1019
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: those that didn't make sense.

1020
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Remember the Psame stink Man you always talk about the

1021
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: PlayStation game. I do recall that too.

1022
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: By the way, can we not move past that? You

1023
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: just cornballed the Outsiders.

1024
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

1025
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: Worst they go out like the Outsiders?

1026
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely outsiders whatever?

1027
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: You know what, Seahawks by twenty you're ridiculous.

1028
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,640
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1029
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1030
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1031
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1058
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1059
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1061
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,320
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1062
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,920
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1063
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1066
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Speaker 3: Why do you not like the wedding crash? Or guy,

1067
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: what's the pro?

1068
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: I hate the commercials like the don't It's like they're

1069
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: the most annoying commercials, these extremity commercials. Maybe you don't

1070
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,520
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1071
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,600
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1072
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: NFL space these commercials. There have been a lot of

1073
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,640
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1074
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,400
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1075
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: but look again, nothing is ever going to be worse

1076
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: than the one year that Verizon.

1077
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: But like every single yeah, what's your comment to And I.

1078
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: Saw ned Yost talking about falling out of a tree

1079
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: blind like seventeen times that day.

1080
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, maybe you and I could film another commercial

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Speaker 3: that doesn't air for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could. Maybe we'll keep an eye on that too.

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Speaker 1: it for us. But the story of the game goes

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Speaker 1: on for the Welsh. It Scott Bogman, I'm Joey P.

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