Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Good daddy, it's a queen spank bank Rock.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is good mom's bad choices. I'm Erica,
Speaker 1: I'm Mela, Happy Wednesday. It is Wednesday. We were actually
Speaker 1: recording on a Wednesday. We're both fucking sick. Shela fuck
Speaker 1: got me sick, and it's my fault because I continued
Speaker 1: to smoke after her and drink out of her waters.
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? I don't know, because I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fine, I'm taking vitamin yeah, so forgive
Speaker 1: me if I'm disgusting coughing into the microphone.
Speaker 2: I'm going to try my best. But look, we've been
Speaker 2: doing this year. This is my only time I've ever
Speaker 2: been sick.
Speaker 1: So sorry, I know I have well. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm sick all the time you were sick, like once
Speaker 1: or time. I'm always like on the verge of sickness
Speaker 1: and then I sometimes I'll recover, and then sometimes it
Speaker 1: goes deep and bad.
Speaker 2: I like am never sick except like one time a year,
Speaker 2: and it's bad and I am so sick. I'm having
Speaker 2: like strange dreams, I have a headache, I'm hacking coughing.
Speaker 2: It's mostly because I try to ignore my sickness, like
Speaker 2: keep going, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I know, bit, you were out
Speaker 1: with me last night and I was like, aren't you sick? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And finally I was like, I gotta go home. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Speaking of our week, I feel like we've been NonStop
Speaker 1: all week. Like if anyone's thinking of starting a podcast,
Speaker 1: rethink it. Literally, this is It's a lot of work. Okay,
Speaker 1: We're trying, and I know it seems like all we
Speaker 1: do is post on Instagram. We have a lot of
Speaker 1: things we're trying to do behind the scenes, and it's
Speaker 1: just a fucking goal struggle les drug goal le struggle Israel. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to try to say I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying. Sorry. We were actually supposed to go
Speaker 1: on one of our other podcast today, but we had
Speaker 1: to cancel because nobody else wants us to hack on
Speaker 1: their podcasts. Shout out to the Dualities podcast. We'll be
Speaker 1: on there with our Woman soon with our carbon our woman.
Speaker 2: I'm about to drink some of this fat Donald's xxx
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Speaker 2: Still friends, our good friend King Noir, who is previously a.
Speaker 1: Guest on our podcast.
Speaker 2: If you have not heard that episode it's Porn and Parenting.
Speaker 2: Him and his girl, Jazzmin are on talking porn and parenting.
Speaker 1: They have three kids, and they're sex workers. That's what
Speaker 1: they That's what they're called. Okay, you don't like that, No,
Speaker 1: porn star is better for you. Oh no, it sounds
Speaker 1: more glamorous. Sex workers sounds that's what they That's what
Speaker 1: they have said on their Instagram. Oh okay, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever. They have sex and they work. They're
Speaker 1: working sex people. Okay, that's true, right, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: Sex worker make you think like prostitution, Yeah, same thing
Speaker 1: sort of anyway. Yeah, I mean it does, it does.
Speaker 2: That's why whatever I mean if they I don't know
Speaker 2: the term of fucking knowlogy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess they're sex workers. They're in the
Speaker 1: porn industry. They're also parents. She's also a therapist. They're
Speaker 1: also cool. They're also the coolest, smart as fuck, smart
Speaker 1: as fuck for sure, and they go around teaching sex
Speaker 1: positive parenting and kink. So, speaking of them, King was
Speaker 1: out here this last week and we hung out and
Speaker 1: we went to see a jazz show. That was dope.
Speaker 2: And then he was like, come by, I have this
Speaker 2: thing I want to give you from Fat Donald's. And
Speaker 2: I went to meet him at the Sanctuary LA and
Speaker 2: he was mid porn scene, which was very interesting and
Speaker 2: I'm highly jealous. I've never walked in a porn scene.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure most people haven't. Actually, I got there
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we're running little late, but do
Speaker 1: you mind doing the behind the scenes. So not only
Speaker 1: did I get to walk in on the porn scene,
Speaker 1: I got to film some behind the scenes. So basically
Speaker 1: I'm like behind the scenes. Basically, you're a porn director.
Speaker 1: I'm a porn director, except I didn't do any directing.
Speaker 1: I was just getting this. They didn't need an er, they.
Speaker 2: Didn't need any director. They knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2: They are professionals. At first I was like okay, and
Speaker 2: then I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. It was cool. It was nice. The sanctuary
Speaker 1: is really cool. There's a lot of cool equipment there.
Speaker 1: And shout out to Lotus Lane who was his co star,
Speaker 1: and it was really cool. They're doing lots of scenes,
Speaker 1: so lots of skirting squirting on the Jordans, lots of
Speaker 1: long dick. Yeah, live long dick. Like if you haven't yet,
Speaker 1: if you are, just are you, if you're new to
Speaker 1: the podcast, or maybe you listen to our last are
Speaker 1: not last episode, but our episode with King Norn and
Speaker 1: Jet Setting Jasmine, I highly recommend you go and search
Speaker 1: search them, search their porns. They're on top of quality.
Speaker 1: Because they are top quality, they do a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that you won't see on like your typical porn
Speaker 1: hub or your red Tube or your xx X tube.
Speaker 1: And it's more porn. You porn, yeah, good old you porn.
Speaker 1: You see more like of course you see the raunch,
Speaker 1: you see the kink. We also see the black love,
Speaker 1: which you know, when they were on our show, we
Speaker 1: talked about you don't really see a lot of that
Speaker 1: black love, intimacy, real intimacy, so or love black kink.
Speaker 1: They were saying, that's like not a big thing in
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, one of the conditions of him gifting us
Speaker 2: this fat Donald's canileen is that we need to drink
Speaker 2: it during a podcast and do the whole podcast on
Speaker 2: the canileen.
Speaker 1: So I'm about to take a sip okay. Hmmm, vegimond
Speaker 1: and visionmin It's delicious. Do you remember that episode? Is
Speaker 1: it delicious? It's not bad. I have to go be
Speaker 1: a parent at some point today. Hmmm, it's very heavily
Speaker 1: thh seed, very strong. You know I'm not good with
Speaker 1: ingesting marijuana. Oh my god, Erica teld me she goes blind.
Speaker 1: She said, I can't eat marijuana. I go blind and
Speaker 1: I developed a stigmatism. It's like what I do. I like,
Speaker 1: my whole vision gets fucked up. Everything starts shaking, and
Speaker 1: I have no control over my vision. So I can't drive.
Speaker 1: I can't basically can't walk. Maybe we shouldn't appeared that
Speaker 1: with they quilled. Oh yeah, and coldies and all the
Speaker 1: cold medicine we've taken today. Well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, No, we did. We did say we wanted
Speaker 1: to start doing episodes under the influence of This is
Speaker 1: our first step of a series to today's our Ingesting
Speaker 1: Candeleen series, and we're gonna see how this plays out. Later.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do one. Maybe we're gonna do one drunk.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take some shots during the podcast. You guys
Speaker 2: can join us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one Mushrooms Mushrooms, and I don't know
Speaker 1: whatever else we can get our hands on these.
Speaker 2: Companies, mushrooms or others. We are looking to do some
Speaker 2: podcasts under the influence. Here's to see how it affects
Speaker 2: our psyche.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll dig out some deep dark gems.
Speaker 1: You know, I get into my feelings under the influence.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I really truly believe for those
Speaker 1: of you who don't indulge in cannabis, like in certain religions,
Speaker 1: it's it's thought to open up your third eye. And
Speaker 1: I'm really I really believe that shit because.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's been times I see ship that I see
Speaker 2: before I start stop liking people, I start liking people,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this person's fake because that shit is taking
Speaker 2: you to like god.
Speaker 1: Level, and you see ship for what it is. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's Tremila's advocacy of marijuana. Last piel spiel. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this week in the news, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on. But first the Grammys, the first most
Speaker 1: import Grammys. Me and Jamila halfway watched the Grammys while
Speaker 1: we were cooking slash. I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: were doing working, working, uh, watching our kids working, cooking, eating. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't really give a fuck about the Grammys, but
Speaker 1: I just like to see the performances, Like I told
Speaker 1: you me, like just grap I'm in the kitchen cooking,
Speaker 1: tell me when something good is happening.
Speaker 2: I like to sometimes see the fashions and the fashions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's always very white to me.
Speaker 1: It's always. First of all, let me say, Alicia Keys
Speaker 1: was the host, So yeah, which was she was? I
Speaker 1: thought she was cool. She was cool, I was. I'm
Speaker 1: just so disappointed that my other woman didn't win. Georgia Smith.
Speaker 1: I like her too. I have both their albums, but
Speaker 1: I just really really thought Georgia was gonna win. I
Speaker 1: really loved Georgia Smith, but I think her for me
Speaker 1: is more I could Georgia like, I can only listen
Speaker 1: sometimes really she's like, yeah, it's like a lot depressing.
Speaker 1: Maybe I like depressing the music, whereas her she has
Speaker 1: emotional music, but sometimes it gets you in that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a little more arm b.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I like it all. I love them both, but I
Speaker 1: just have like like a sexual crush. Oh so, oh
Speaker 1: my god. When I saw Georgia I Coachella this last year.
Speaker 1: I was like, take me.
Speaker 2: I know we were dead together. Yeah, we're like an epiphany, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I need her, I want you. If
Speaker 2: anybody knows you're holler.
Speaker 1: She is fine as fuck. Yeah true, yeah damn anyway,
Speaker 1: and then Cardi B's win. I was really happy for her.
Speaker 1: I felt like I won. I love her so much
Speaker 1: and she poor girl, she couldn't even she didn't even
Speaker 1: know what to say. I mean, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but you know, like it just it just goes to
Speaker 1: show like transparency, authenticity. It wins every time, but your
Speaker 1: fucking self because it wins. Now. I think we're in
Speaker 1: a place now. I think before we're in the music
Speaker 1: industry is it's interesting to watch how it shifts because
Speaker 1: before it was like people loved that bigger than life,
Speaker 1: untouchable artist like a Beyonce or like a Nicki Minaj,
Speaker 1: you know, like NICKI wasn't like you didn't like when
Speaker 1: I think of Nikki, I never thought like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: could be my homegirl, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, she's the queen of rap.
Speaker 1: You know, she's so talented. What did she do on
Speaker 1: the weekends like I don't even know, and now it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we know what Cardi does and she could be my
Speaker 1: homie too, and she could talk like Jicky, we know
Speaker 1: what she did. She hosted a party at Argyle Club Argo.
Speaker 1: She knew it. Shut up, No, she didn't. She would
Speaker 1: of course she was at all. Did she see did
Speaker 1: she get near Nicki?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that she felt like she was like
Speaker 2: she was like, excuse me, I'm trying to get to
Speaker 2: the bathroom.
Speaker 1: And she felt like she felt like she was like,
Speaker 1: notice me who Nicki was. Yeah, so yeah, that was
Speaker 1: her in her thoughts.
Speaker 2: She was like, I just felt like she was like
Speaker 2: thinking that I was gonna care who she was, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I need to get the bothom
Speaker 2: excuse me, because everybody else around her was like nicky,
Speaker 2: nicky Nikki. She's like she didn't perform or anything at
Speaker 2: the party.
Speaker 1: She was just there. I don't know, but like, if
Speaker 1: I was Nicki and I wasn't invited to the Grammys,
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't have been in the city. I would
Speaker 1: have been on VAK. You're like, what Grammys? I don't are?
Speaker 1: What are those? I don't know her Instead, she decided
Speaker 1: to have an after party, Lady Gaga one, which I
Speaker 1: love Lady Gaga, I really do. I think she's like
Speaker 1: kind of like that annoying stage, like that annoying theater
Speaker 1: kid that's like so annoying. So it's so tough, so
Speaker 1: over the top, like me, me, look at me, look
Speaker 1: at me. But it's fucking amazing, and it's super talented.
Speaker 1: You can't deny her talent. And also I think she's
Speaker 1: really genuine. You know, she really wants to support artists
Speaker 1: and upcoming artists, and she's so passionate. And I think
Speaker 1: after I watched her documentary, I fear documentary. Why am
Speaker 1: I sneezing and coughing because you're sick? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I heard some weird shit about her. Why do I
Speaker 1: know all the weird shit about it? Jesus, what'd she do? Now?
Speaker 2: Cousin Chris told me that in the documentary or maybe
Speaker 2: another documentary like something that like, okay, I know she
Speaker 2: had a best friend who like committed suicide, but that
Speaker 2: she tried to take her persona like that best friend
Speaker 2: was like actually the weird theater kid and actually was very.
Speaker 1: Like Star was. Her name is star or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know because I didn't watch it, but this is
Speaker 1: what I heard. Okay, First of all, what I will say,
Speaker 1: there's only so much of a persona you can take
Speaker 1: and have a fucking ten plus year career, like you know.
Speaker 1: Whether she did that or not, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: could have been like an contribute to her, like commemoration.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. I think I remember that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I like her. People will always
Speaker 1: try to downplay and diminish a woman, It's true. And
Speaker 1: so I'm going to you not well, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I heard. But I just
Speaker 1: know that she's very talented. She's a talented singer, she's
Speaker 1: talented writer, she's talented musician, she's talented actress. She's nominated
Speaker 1: for an Oscar I know, you see that movie. No,
Speaker 1: I still need to watch it. I need too. So
Speaker 1: I was happy that she won. I really liked Carti's performance.
Speaker 1: She did that ship. I did look it up later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. We kept missing it. I didn't
Speaker 1: even see that.
Speaker 2: I was very disappointed in Camila Cabo's performance because I
Speaker 2: hated that fucking outfit.
Speaker 1: The outfit was trashola. I want to know who styled
Speaker 1: it and who approved it, and why didn't nobody say
Speaker 1: this shit is ugly? She is ugly, it's unflattering. And
Speaker 1: why are we wearing skirts that just gently grazed the
Speaker 1: top of our knee? No, it was the bottom of
Speaker 1: her knee, like the bottom of her knee. I need
Speaker 1: you to commit to either long or short. You need
Speaker 1: a committal phase. That middle area has never been in
Speaker 1: appealing for dance performances. And that Kitten Hill you didn't
Speaker 1: even dance hard enough. Yeah, like for that Kitten Hill,
Speaker 1: you didn't. You needn't be Beyonce on the stage. J
Speaker 1: Loo can do fucking turns and a stiletto. I need
Speaker 1: Jude Cabela Cabello and needs you to do that. You're
Speaker 1: too young and beautiful and actually talented, So please.
Speaker 2: Spare us with those ugly fucking outfits. Fire your stylist,
Speaker 2: stylist asa. Also, there was all this backlash for j
Speaker 2: Loo presenting the Motown Award.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, why because she's Latina? I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if it' because she's Latina because she doesn't really sing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably both. Yeah, I missed that part.
Speaker 1: You didn't see those all those names? No, I I
Speaker 1: missed her performances because we really weren't watching. Wait did
Speaker 1: she perform her? She presented, She performed. She did a
Speaker 1: whole thing with Smokey Robinson. Oh no, how do you
Speaker 1: miss that? I don't know. We started late, we went
Speaker 1: we started watching it like halfway through, and then it
Speaker 1: restarted again. I wonder what songs she sang? A few,
Speaker 1: She's like a medley.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. It is, it's funny. I could have done it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I get why you would
Speaker 1: think that you would choose a black artist to execute
Speaker 1: that are actually RelA things. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the grand We're in such a fucking sense time.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, I get it. But also she's
Speaker 1: still a woman of color, and so's also the sides
Speaker 1: to really talented. She might not be able to sing well,
Speaker 1: but the bitch can perform her ass off. I saw
Speaker 1: her in Vegas and I sold, I want to see
Speaker 1: her in Vegas. So good. She's so good. Alisha Key's
Speaker 1: playing two pianos. Fly fly, She's just fly and talented
Speaker 1: and beautiful as well. So the Grammars was cool. It's cool,
Speaker 1: you know till next year. Yeah, anything else new in
Speaker 1: herd events? Yeah, the whole is it raining? It is, okay?
Speaker 1: I think I wanted. I wanted to talk about Gucci, Prada, Montclair, Montclair, Oh,
Speaker 1: and them the blackface doing blackface and their brand and
Speaker 1: all celebrities getting their painties in a bunch knowing, damn well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna buy these fucking brands like next week. And
Speaker 1: these brands have been doing the shit forever and they
Speaker 1: still buy their brands. What it's not right, it's not
Speaker 1: on right, Yes it is. They still buy these brands.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just like, I just want to
Speaker 1: see more black people buy black buying from black businesses,
Speaker 1: promote black businesses, and actually really do it. I mean
Speaker 1: we have the power. I mean we are the trend
Speaker 1: we are the like we're the trends. We set the bar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we do have the power and we just
Speaker 1: don't use it properly. And there are people in the
Speaker 1: community that have bomb fashions and all types of businesses
Speaker 1: that we could be putting our dollars to, but we
Speaker 1: just choose to vibe from Gucci, who I am shocked
Speaker 1: has never had any black designers. I'm sure we're like
Speaker 1: number three top consumer of Gucci. Have never had black designers?
Speaker 1: Well they have what's the guy's name New York. He
Speaker 1: did a whole line with them, Dan Dapper Dapper Dan. Oh.
Speaker 1: Why did they say that they never had black designers.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not been like the house designer. You know
Speaker 1: how they bring in people like the future like Carl
Speaker 1: La Carl Lagerfeld is Chanelle and he also has his
Speaker 1: own line. You know. Well, crazy Kanye said it's very
Speaker 1: racist over there. They won't let him in. Kanye can
Speaker 1: kiss my ass. He's just like a shut up. But
Speaker 1: I think, like I just feel like, first of all,
Speaker 1: these brands know better. I feel like, how do you
Speaker 1: not know? How do you not know a shirt with
Speaker 1: red fucking like lips and that's black it's a black
Speaker 1: face shirt. It was literally like they do it on
Speaker 1: purpose to start all this controversy, to get people all repped.
Speaker 1: That's why they do it. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: could think of, because how how how do you go
Speaker 1: through that many hands before it gets to the consumer's hands,
Speaker 1: and no one says anything, like I used to think, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're just really that dumb. But like with how socially
Speaker 1: you know aware everyone is about race and racism and
Speaker 1: all that, like how how how yeah? And I mean
Speaker 1: and they know black people are still gonna buy their shit.
Speaker 1: Look at Floyd walking into the Gucci store not giving
Speaker 1: it one zero fuck is the demise of them. He
Speaker 1: also doesn't read, so you know, he doesn't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck is happening. He doesn't give a fuck about anything,
Speaker 1: you know. So I have no respect for.
Speaker 2: Ignorance. I mean, like ignorance is bliss. I just have
Speaker 2: no respect for like a dumb ass like you have
Speaker 2: all this money and you don't think, Okay, let me
Speaker 2: just do better, Let me get a tutor, let me
Speaker 2: you can learn, you know, And then it just irritates me.
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge like Gucci, Prada, Fandy, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not a huge like Main like not even if I
Speaker 1: was rich. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think it's just there's other more important things
Speaker 2: you could be putting your dollar two. There's other people
Speaker 2: like starving and struggling, and there's just so much more
Speaker 2: important things. And I just think it's fucking ridiculous. But
Speaker 2: speaking of the blackface thing, I watched recently a part
Speaker 2: of a documentary on PBS called Black Black Paraphernilia I
Speaker 2: think it's called, and basically it's saying that there's recently
Speaker 2: and been like a huge influx in like old menstrual,
Speaker 2: uh black face like paraphernalia, and like so much so
Speaker 2: that there's like Iron iron whatever you call them, iron
Speaker 2: factories in China remanufacturing this shit and it's actually it's
Speaker 2: not authentic because it's obviously not vintage.
Speaker 1: But it's like who in the fuck is buying this
Speaker 1: shit like as collectibles, as vintage collectibles, And it's just
Speaker 1: a very dark history. It's just a very dark history
Speaker 1: to be collecting and celebrating, Like I know, it's a
Speaker 1: part of our history. And there's some things that I like.
Speaker 2: There's like a black designer named Montgomery or something, and
Speaker 2: she's out of New York and she does a lot
Speaker 2: of like anti mi men blackface like things, and I
Speaker 2: like her, but I just think it's.
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to celebrate.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of still among us because we're in
Speaker 2: a prime era again of like it's this weird version
Speaker 2: of blackface with like what do they call it?
Speaker 1: Blackfishing? Like it's called a a like makeup can make
Speaker 1: you look more tanny bray, tailor fillers, baby hairs.
Speaker 2: Erica show me me and our other friend Carleton in
Speaker 2: the picture of her friend and she's like, she's white,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Erica, she's blackfishing.
Speaker 1: She's like really. I was like, really, bitch, she looks
Speaker 1: like a light skinned black girl and me and me
Speaker 1: and our other friend were like, yes, she didn't realize
Speaker 1: it because she looks at her all the time. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the thing blackfishing, white girls, if
Speaker 1: you were looking to look like a big booty black girl.
Speaker 2: Was like, it's I don't want to say that all
Speaker 2: black women like have these like long weaves and long
Speaker 2: nails and baby hairs, but like I live in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of shippers in Atlanta. I'm looking at Instagram.
Speaker 1: These nails were not y'all were not trying to have
Speaker 1: these long ass coffin nails, these long ass or baby
Speaker 1: hairs rows. Yeah, it's just cheek boneas really, because they
Speaker 1: used to make fun of black women for wearing legs
Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know. It's it's very strange
Speaker 1: the time we are in. And I try not to
Speaker 1: be too sensitive because you know what, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, whatever, wear what you want to wear,
Speaker 1: do what you want to do. But when she starts
Speaker 1: hitting the fan and we have real issues in the community,
Speaker 1: you bitches better be front line, okay, because if you
Speaker 1: want to emulate a culture, or you think you're emulating
Speaker 1: a culture by you know, that's the thing is that
Speaker 1: I don't even think they realize they're emulating. No, there's
Speaker 1: no way they don't realize it. There's no fucking way
Speaker 1: they don't realize. No, they don't. They look at their
Speaker 1: favorite celebrity that maybe happens to be black and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want my nails like that, not because she's black,
Speaker 1: but just because she has those nails. But they don't
Speaker 1: realize that she has these nails because this is what
Speaker 1: she's grown up around in her community culture.
Speaker 2: It irritates me that there was a time where certain
Speaker 2: things were like looked at as just like like ghett
Speaker 2: at a shine with where is like those nails, long braids?
Speaker 1: Now it's in.
Speaker 2: You know, there was a time where like you couldn't
Speaker 2: go to a corporate and have dreads or braids.
Speaker 1: They would tell you that even there's still to this
Speaker 1: day that it was too ethnic. People were losing their
Speaker 1: jobs over this shit.
Speaker 2: So like you don't really realize like the history and
Speaker 2: the struggle that has come to embrace our natural shit.
Speaker 2: So much of black women have to conform to a
Speaker 2: European standard of beauty just to feel like people can
Speaker 2: hear me, or people can like take me serious, take
Speaker 2: me seriously. Like even as a waitresser, like wearing certain hairstyles,
Speaker 2: I totally noticed the difference in like tips and friendliness.
Speaker 1: And it's just like now you want.
Speaker 2: To be like you can't pick and choose take some
Speaker 2: of a culture, but none of the bad.
Speaker 1: You know, we go through a lot of shit just
Speaker 1: being black, and it's just an ironic, strange thing to
Speaker 1: see develop. And like sometimes they'll scroll past certain pictures
Speaker 1: like fuck Chloe, and I love Chloe. She's a cancer,
Speaker 1: she might be have fuck, but I just am like,
Speaker 1: but she looks like a light skinned black girl.
Speaker 2: I had to look twice, you know, and it's like
Speaker 2: not to say yeah, okay, but okay, there's a difference
Speaker 2: between like Chloe. And then what's the sister who hasn't
Speaker 2: gotten any of the younger sister Kendall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she still looks what she is, white, white, and
Speaker 1: you don't. Maybe it's that face and that ass and
Speaker 1: that wig and those nails. But it's just like, damn
Speaker 1: you guys. And I'm not saying we can't share.
Speaker 2: But be present when you when there's when there's there's
Speaker 2: fucked up shit going on the community.
Speaker 1: Which is happening daily every day, be an ally. Be
Speaker 1: an ally. If if you want to be so deep
Speaker 1: in the culture, you want to date the man, you
Speaker 1: want to wear that you want to dress off, the talk,
Speaker 1: the slag wear, the nails, wear the support, the music,
Speaker 1: go to the basketball game. Then when shit hits a fan,
Speaker 1: when innocent people are getting killed, and when things are
Speaker 1: when there's injustice in the community, I want you bitches
Speaker 1: to be the first ones to use your media power
Speaker 1: to speak the fuck up or at least ask how
Speaker 1: can I help, how can I help? Tell me what
Speaker 1: I can do? You know. Yeah, And like just to
Speaker 1: touch on the history of the menstrual shows, because I mean,
Speaker 1: of course I know what a mental show is. Of
Speaker 1: course I know what black faces. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: the beauty of having our podcast is that it forces
Speaker 1: me to have to educate myself. So The Minstrual Show
Speaker 1: first began around eighteen thirties around the eighteen thirties in
Speaker 1: New York City and basically consisted of white actors painting
Speaker 1: their face in black quark and their lips red to
Speaker 1: emulate blacks black slaves.
Speaker 4: Large, large over over lips, baboon like monkey like talking,
Speaker 4: and it consisted of comedy skits or performances, but it
Speaker 4: really mocked or depicted blacks as lazy, ignorant, cowardly, hypersexual.
Speaker 4: The Help, The Help Uneducated and Kunes Yeah essentially and
Speaker 4: Mint the Mitchell Show were essentially the lens through which
Speaker 4: white people viewed black people in America. Like the white
Speaker 4: people would look at these shows and like this is
Speaker 4: this is who black people are, and you would think,
Speaker 4: like it's crazy. When I was researching this to see
Speaker 4: how many different celebrities had participated in this, like some.
Speaker 1: Some of like celebrities like little like celebrities that I
Speaker 1: grew up watching, had no I had no idea Charley Temple.
Speaker 1: There was a picture of Shirley Temple getting her little
Speaker 1: baby face painted black, and I almost like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is so fucked up. She's a child, she doesn't even know.
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure she does know, but like, just like
Speaker 1: the educating of these kids, that's such an age, it's
Speaker 1: so important. Mickey Rooney, Louis Armstrong, Joan Crawford being Crosby.
Speaker 1: Even like some black back, black people were dressing up
Speaker 1: in blackface. I didn't want to say this one because
Speaker 1: I love him still, Jimmy Kimball, Jimmy Kimble, and he
Speaker 1: did it, but like, wait, yeah, for what on a show?
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, Jimmy Kimble. No Fallon, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 1: I love Jimmy Fallen. Why do you do that? What
Speaker 1: was he doing? I forgot? Do you get a lot
Speaker 1: of blacklash for that time? I don't think so, but
Speaker 1: I just saw it on that show. But he seems
Speaker 1: really socially where I'm surprised, but everybody's look into that.
Speaker 1: But even black people were dressing up as black face
Speaker 1: because that's the only way that they could work. People
Speaker 1: didn't even want them to look black like how they
Speaker 1: actually look. They wanted to look like this cartoonish depiction
Speaker 1: of black. So when you see these designers like depicting
Speaker 1: blackface on their products. Still it's just like and people
Speaker 1: collecting things. It's just it's very strange.
Speaker 2: And it's a global epidemic. Like when I watched that show,
Speaker 2: at the end they you guys should look into that show.
Speaker 2: But at the end they show blackface and all these
Speaker 2: different countries on products, on TV shows, on mainstream things, Berlin, France, Mexico.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a worldwide thing. Wasn't just here.
Speaker 2: But it's just so insensitive. It's so insensitive, Like I
Speaker 2: don't think people actually recognize just like.
Speaker 1: Just how the dark history behind it being black. It's
Speaker 1: just dark, and you know, and some people like you know,
Speaker 1: like the designer that you like in Brooklyn who is
Speaker 1: black and creates these images. I mean I get, I get,
Speaker 1: I get like taking back the significance of it and
Speaker 1: like reclaiming it and making it something different definitely, because
Speaker 1: you know what it is.
Speaker 2: Also I recognize is that as African Americans, we lack history,
Speaker 2: we lack roots because we have only been taught this
Speaker 2: really dark history. So there has to be a reclaim,
Speaker 2: there has to be an embrace because a lot of
Speaker 2: like our music our culture is who we are, it
Speaker 2: is all we are. But it's like only from what
Speaker 2: we've been given, and this is the type of shit
Speaker 2: we've been given, like very dark things. So that's why
Speaker 2: I like it that just to take it back, I like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't I'm like, I understand it, but
Speaker 1: also I don't know, I don't know. I'm conflicted about
Speaker 1: it because I feel like that sends so confused. White
Speaker 1: people get confused. They get very confused. Sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to draw hard lines. In the great words of Sharonas,
Speaker 1: just a little slow. Wait. I had someone one of
Speaker 1: the girls from my work who happens to be a
Speaker 1: Caucasian and who loves Sharonas be like, I heard your
Speaker 1: episode and he said, white girls are slow. I know
Speaker 1: our favorite, our number one fan, our friend Nelly, was like, ah, Sharonas,
Speaker 1: while we got to be slow. She dms me.
Speaker 2: Specifically about this. Shout out to Nelly. I'm like, Key meant,
Speaker 2: like that girl, he.
Speaker 1: Did some slow shit. That's what I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: think when we collect those items, even though we're trying
Speaker 1: to reclaim, sorry, we're trying to reclaim them, I think
Speaker 1: it sends a mixed message to white people, and then
Speaker 1: they get confused and then they think they can participate
Speaker 1: because they always want to participate in the shit we're participating,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes this like circle. It's like either
Speaker 1: you like it or you don't. I feel like sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to just be like it's out. It's out
Speaker 1: for everyone, you know, but we know that's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. So I don't know anyway, I just I
Speaker 1: encourage you guys. Obviously this is it's Black History Month,
Speaker 1: but you know we've been designated this month. But really,
Speaker 1: if you are black, you know that every day should
Speaker 1: be you should honor who you are and we should
Speaker 1: support one another. And if you aren't black and you
Speaker 1: have black friends or you have black babies, you know,
Speaker 1: try to We've had this episode before, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to you know, talk about your kids, about who they are,
Speaker 1: but also just try to support support black businesses, you know,
Speaker 1: like just support, show that support we need. We want
Speaker 1: to see it. And I know that sometimes people question
Speaker 1: how we can help. That's one of the biggest ones
Speaker 1: because money talks, and we need we need that support,
Speaker 1: and black people will have to do better too. I
Speaker 1: don't know If you guys have watched this Killer Mike
Speaker 1: Show on Netflix. If you haven't, I highly highly highly
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's so good. And one of the the
Speaker 1: first episode is basically he has a show he's in
Speaker 1: I guess he lives in I think he lives in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He has a show somewhere in Georgia, and he it's
Speaker 1: like three days away, and he said, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: challenging myself for the next three days to only buy
Speaker 1: black and use black products, period. And so the show
Speaker 1: was documenting this journey and basically it was a fucking
Speaker 1: almost impossible, like like he went to this guy who
Speaker 1: happened to be like the ress for all black things owned,
Speaker 1: and he had a black phone, Like he had a
Speaker 1: phone that was like owned by black people. So he
Speaker 1: had his phone. He got that he couldn't smoke weed
Speaker 1: because none of the farms were black owned or growers
Speaker 1: were black owned. He barely could eat because even the
Speaker 1: black owned restaurants, the food they were getting was from
Speaker 1: tribute from blacks. So because he was taking it to
Speaker 1: that level, so that the root of it, even trying
Speaker 1: to get transportation to get to his show was difficult,
Speaker 1: Like he had at the end of the day, he
Speaker 1: had to make some sort of exception and so he
Speaker 1: went to a black owned business that owned car like
Speaker 1: owned tour buses, so he had to take a whole
Speaker 1: tour bus to his show by himself, and fucks trying
Speaker 1: to find a place to stay. He was sleeping on
Speaker 1: a park bench, you know, black owned hotels or you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And just putting that like seeing
Speaker 1: that in Georgia, that's crazy because even you would think
Speaker 1: it really put it in perspective. For me, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is It's so true. Got to watch it. It's
Speaker 1: really interesting. So I recommend you watch it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: and if about all of our black shit, It's Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day tomorrow. Happy Valentine's Day to those love birds out
Speaker 1: there or you're not not. We wanted to do our
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day episode and discuss our views and feelings on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. And actually this came up for me recently
Speaker 1: because they start instilling this whole Valentine's Day narrative. So
Speaker 1: young Irie's in school obviously and she, you know, celebrating
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day tomorrow, and you know, they teach it about love.
Speaker 1: And I think this is almost like when people like
Speaker 1: you is Valentine's Day, like where you start realizing, like
Speaker 1: it's supposed to have a boyfriend now ny movies or
Speaker 1: where you like, oh that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: Secon Luna bought the entire family cookies, lollipops, balloon. She
Speaker 2: got me a fake bouquet of heart flowers, and she
Speaker 2: said this is for you for when you get married.
Speaker 2: So it's I know, and I always I was going
Speaker 2: to be like the mom, like who made baskets for
Speaker 2: Easter and like for Valentine's Like meanwhile, I'm like down
Speaker 2: with the man. This is fake, but I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just some fake us. All the holidays
Speaker 2: are fake.
Speaker 1: I used to take Valentine's Day seriously when you're in
Speaker 1: seventh grade, no, like like high school, early twenties. Well
Speaker 1: that's what it's fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the fun. I like, I like arts
Speaker 2: and crabs and shit, and I really do like love.
Speaker 2: I'm just not into spending money on some fake ass
Speaker 2: bullshit because to me, like doesn't make me feel special,
Speaker 2: Like I just want you to do something special like.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I don't know it is nice for someone to do
Speaker 2: something nice for you. And of course I like gifts,
Speaker 2: but like I'm go into cheesy as shit. Don't buy
Speaker 2: me no rose, don't buy right. I don't want no
Speaker 2: funck a teddy bear made of roses. Take me to
Speaker 2: get a sake, pay a bill?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real?
Speaker 2: Like I like to eat and I like experiences me too.
Speaker 2: Get this, Get this flower rose out of my face.
Speaker 2: I like flowers, I just don't want them to be
Speaker 2: in a shape of a teddy bear.
Speaker 1: So you really even want flowers on Valentine's Day though,
Speaker 1: It's just so I want flowers every day to be
Speaker 1: in that exactly, Like, yeah, chocolate, I don't fucking eat
Speaker 1: chocolate at that ship out of my face? Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't. It's funny though, because
Speaker 1: there's a heart shaped Do you know what I find?
Speaker 1: Or at least in my last relationship, I found that
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day was more taken seriously by the man than
Speaker 1: by me. I know, for real it is, But I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not always like that. I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of women out there that really pressure their men, like
Speaker 1: what do we do have Valentine's Day, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I got my BALANCEE. Then you go somewhere and there's
Speaker 1: like everybody in their mama there because it's all pre set.
Speaker 1: I didn't even want this. I wanted to order. I
Speaker 1: wanted to order.
Speaker 2: It's so many people, it's so crowded. Everybody's pretend holding hands.
Speaker 1: So gay? Are we just? Are we better? No? We
Speaker 1: don't have Valentine's No, really not, because you know what.
Speaker 1: I had this. I had this conversation with myself the
Speaker 1: other day because I know everybody else knows. I know
Speaker 1: you know. You ever go on Instagram and.
Speaker 2: See those people who are so in love it's like
Speaker 2: beautiful but annoying.
Speaker 1: And I had talk with myself. I'm like, am I
Speaker 1: annoyed by this?
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, because I want that, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be that annoying on Instagram when I get a man
Speaker 2: that I really like.
Speaker 1: But it just has to be someone I really know.
Speaker 1: I'm lying, I'm never gonna be that annoying on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been like that on Instagram?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I mean I suppose I may be daddy, but like
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit black love. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: i've ever hashtagged that. But oh my god, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back, bitch, makee me scroll back. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think that Candileen is getting to me. What was
Speaker 1: it talking about? Uh No, I'm not jealous. I just
Speaker 1: I think when something's really good, you don't have to
Speaker 1: talk about it a lot. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: necessarily pushed up. But I get I get wanting to
Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't. I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's annoying. I think it's more annoying
Speaker 2: when bitches are like I need a man, my love
Speaker 2: is coming. Have you ever seen those posts too?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so like the thirstiest bitches like I
Speaker 1: can't wait for my man. Like it's that's annoying, more
Speaker 1: annoying than real love posts. I just feel like you
Speaker 1: and your partner, if you have one, should make an
Speaker 1: effort to express your love for one another daily, daily,
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, it doesn't have to be on February fourteenth.
Speaker 1: You know, It's just I don't know even like happy Bay.
Speaker 1: He asked me. He was like, so what do you
Speaker 1: ask me? Like? What are you doing? What are you
Speaker 1: doing on Valentine's Day? And I was like I don't
Speaker 1: believe Valentine's Day and he was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank god. He was like, cause I was gonna tell
Speaker 1: you all the reasons why I don't believe Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean my ex like, and
Speaker 1: I would tell my ex too, like we don't have
Speaker 1: to do anything on Valentine's Day, Like seriously, we don't
Speaker 1: need to do anything. You don't need to buy me anything.
Speaker 1: And he would always buy me something, and of course
Speaker 1: that was nice and I liked it. It was sweet,
Speaker 1: but then I'd get pissed because Nigga, I told you
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna buy you shit, and now you brought
Speaker 1: me a gift and now I like it. Ask yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate like I tell you, we told, I told you,
Speaker 1: We're not doing that. I'm shit. I've also had like
Speaker 1: a few fights on Valentine's Day, so like not even
Speaker 1: about Valentine's Day, just like like an argument happened, happened
Speaker 1: to happen on that day. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: fuck this day. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: this is just another month of fucking day where we're
Speaker 1: gonna fight or not. You know.
Speaker 2: I had I had a girlfriend once and she made
Speaker 2: such a big deal about Valentine's Day and like made
Speaker 2: me get dressed, and I was like, be ready this time.
Speaker 2: And then I guess when the day came, like we
Speaker 2: missed the show, and then she just like got me
Speaker 2: in necklace and then like fed me store bought sushi.
Speaker 1: I was just like a girl that liked you. We
Speaker 1: were in a relationship. Oh oh, this is a long
Speaker 1: time ago. I was hot. I was so irritated.
Speaker 2: I was like, why the fuck do you have me
Speaker 2: get all this dressed, all this hype, and this bitch
Speaker 2: is feeding me store bos.
Speaker 1: It was more about the food shit, I know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so you said be cheap. Okay. So if you
Speaker 1: have subscribed to our newsletter, is that everyone just jumped
Speaker 1: on that roost. If you subscribe to our newsletter, which
Speaker 1: you guys all should, because there's some extra information in there.
Speaker 1: We do some updates on our personal lives up there,
Speaker 1: and we share event information, which, by the way, we're
Speaker 1: having an event March nineteenth, Wait sixteenth. March sixteenth. March
Speaker 1: sixteenth is our one year Anna Versus a relive show
Speaker 1: flash party. Flash party. But still but apparently this candeleeen
Speaker 1: is working, so you drinks some more. Noma, Wait what
Speaker 1: was I saying? I already forgot where this was going.
Speaker 1: We have events? Oh our newsletter? Oh yeah, our newsletter.
Speaker 1: Do you have a newsletter? Yeah? Follow it. You can
Speaker 1: subscribe on our website to our newsletter. But I was
Speaker 1: saying something before that. We talked about our views on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Oh before the newsletter. Oh yeah, yeah, Jamila in
Speaker 1: the newsletter was saying how she like, we were just
Speaker 1: encouraging you guys to, you know, take yourself out on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, get your stuff out on the day, your baby,
Speaker 1: maybe you and your daughter out or your son out
Speaker 1: on the jay and like do something special like that,
Speaker 1: you know, or treat yourself to treat yourself. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: a little massage, running a run of bath, smoke a joint,
Speaker 1: watch your favorite show you've been meaning to catch up on,
Speaker 1: and just do the whole do the self care thing
Speaker 1: and not make it about a relationship. The biggest relationship
Speaker 1: and the most important relationship you have is with yourself,
Speaker 1: So nurture that if that's if it's so important to
Speaker 1: you this day. But Jamila was saying, you know, the
Speaker 1: best way to go is free. Just make it free.
Speaker 1: And well, I think all the sexiest shit is free.
Speaker 1: Like I want to cook naked for you. I want
Speaker 1: to give you a massage naked. I want to wear
Speaker 1: this lingerie and then get naked, which I for myself,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna naked. I got this way, call
Speaker 1: me something else that's yeah, it's role playing no, and
Speaker 1: I get that too, I think. But I think if
Speaker 1: you are, if you believe in this holiday so much,
Speaker 1: then but buy something. Then don't be cheap about like
Speaker 1: don't you don't have to buy something expensive, but don't
Speaker 1: buy like the cheap teddy barrels. If you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: then do it. Get something actually that the person's gonna lie,
Speaker 1: even if it is small. Yeah, But like Jamila, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm definitely more so about if I'm if I was
Speaker 1: celebrating Valentine's Day, it's about the experience. If I was
Speaker 1: gonna spend it with someone else.
Speaker 2: I'm so cursed my own family, My whole family is
Speaker 2: all holidays are like it's the man's holiday trying to
Speaker 2: get your money.
Speaker 1: So I'm not very holidays. But except for my birthday,
Speaker 1: A very into.
Speaker 2: My birthday and everything else is the man's holiday.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, sometimes it's fun. I'm gonna feel sick again.
Speaker 1: Clearly my coughing my nose is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, not not very appealing in the microphone.
Speaker 1: I might have to add it that out. I don't
Speaker 1: want me laugh. It makes me cough. Oh another update,
Speaker 1: speaking of Valentine's Day and love and relationships that I'm
Speaker 1: not participating it. I'm also sixty one days sullivant, and
Speaker 1: I did not think that I could do that. So
Speaker 1: that's neither did I.
Speaker 2: Thanks friend, I'm really proud of you. So yeah, I've
Speaker 2: been consciously sullivant for sixty one days and it's pretty.
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's cool. Sometimes I get in like horny modes,
Speaker 1: like must have dick, dick, dick, because I think all
Speaker 1: these sexual thoughts and then it goes away. Oh so
Speaker 1: you masturbate in your mind, my mo's mental master masturbation.
Speaker 1: I just think like skin close thoughts, sweat, heavy, breathing, biting,
Speaker 1: we liquid liquid measure me like penetration, penetration, penetration, and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, okay, back to the regular life. Oh masturbation. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm still going to encourage you to get a vibrator,
Speaker 1: a new one. Do you think you need a new one?
Speaker 1: Because clearly, sorry, oh my god, clearly the old one
Speaker 1: is not You're not going to it, you're not excited
Speaker 1: about it. I don't have you watched tidy. She's like,
Speaker 1: does this bring your joy? If it bring your joy,
Speaker 1: you keep it. She doesn't like, she doesn't speak English,
Speaker 1: anything that brings you joy. She's like this little voice.
Speaker 1: But ever, the whole thing is like, does it make
Speaker 1: you feel joy? So maybe my brother doesn't make me
Speaker 1: feel joy? Yeah, you gotta find a new exciting, joyous vibratory.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up close what she says
Speaker 2: to do with your things, like bring it close to
Speaker 2: your chest and see if it brings you joy.
Speaker 1: Oh the show? Oh? Is that the show? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Not even functually, it's about tidying, like getting rid of
Speaker 2: shit and just keeping the things I bring you.
Speaker 1: My friend Xavier was telling me about that. He was
Speaker 1: telling me I needed to watch that. He just watched
Speaker 1: and it changed his life.
Speaker 2: It's like the top three shows right now on Netflix,
Speaker 2: one of the top three watched shows.
Speaker 1: Did we already talk about that? Other weird show Abducted
Speaker 1: in plain Sight. Yeah we did, ok, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: know that's an What about Ted Bundy? I haven't seen that?
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yeah? I watched it. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know it's just got sick like we go means
Speaker 1: you don't watch all six She always turns on the
Speaker 1: darkest shit and then falls asleep, and then my nosey
Speaker 1: ass can't stop watching.
Speaker 2: It's like six episodes of the darkness of said Bundy,
Speaker 2: and like a serial killer of young women.
Speaker 1: It's very scary. Yeah. I know. He because he was
Speaker 1: good looking and charming, and so he would get away
Speaker 1: with it. And he was like Lokia genius. No, No,
Speaker 1: that was a lie. He's not genious. He was just
Speaker 1: so he was psycho.
Speaker 2: No, he was kind of smart and he can manipulate,
Speaker 2: but in reality he really wasn't that smart. His I
Speaker 2: he could, his IQ was actually very low and adjusted,
Speaker 2: and it made him feel inadequate.
Speaker 1: He was didn't he defend himself? Yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: tamed as a lawyer. He was crazy insecure in his
Speaker 1: whole childhood, in his whole life, he was like pretending
Speaker 1: to be so smart and so eloquent, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to be like a Republican party against like juvenile delinquents.
Speaker 1: And he's a psychopath and he really wasn't that smart,
Speaker 1: but he was. How many people they killed seventeen thirty seventy,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, women brutally like smashing their heads, grabbing
Speaker 1: them out of their beds, strangling them and pulling into
Speaker 1: his trunk. Random bitches. Random.
Speaker 2: He literally killed bitches through out of their bedrooms that
Speaker 2: he'd never seen before.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, followed them and took them and left
Speaker 1: them in the woods. That's crazy. And then had a
Speaker 1: girlfriend during and then didn't kill her, didn't not tell her.
Speaker 2: She came to the places like, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I think. It's my boyfriend. His name is Ted, and
Speaker 2: he has all these different house keys at his house,
Speaker 2: and he's been gone mysteriously from some of these times
Speaker 2: of these women's abductions. And sometimes he tells me he
Speaker 2: follows like college students and he can't help it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's the one who got him caught up
Speaker 1: or what? No, Then they were watching him, but he
Speaker 1: kept going, damn bitch, they got him. He escaped twice, right, twice,
Speaker 1: that's right. I wouldn't tell me, this niggas not a genius.
Speaker 1: He's white. White.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I was doing a client and she's white.
Speaker 2: I think she's half Mexican of white. And her boyfriend
Speaker 2: is black and Indian, you know. And he was like,
Speaker 2: she's like I was.
Speaker 1: Watching them that with my boyfriend, and he said if
Speaker 1: he was black, he would have never got away with that.
Speaker 1: I was like, he's right, that's true. He like jumped
Speaker 1: out of the window. Do you mean he's not shackled
Speaker 1: to get this jug what do you mean here to
Speaker 1: get shot? We're gonna chase him. He was gone for
Speaker 1: a week. Girl in the woods. Almost god, I don't
Speaker 1: use force right if you see him, if you see him,
Speaker 1: whispered gently, come here, Ted come only killed thirty bitches? Crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Also, my client told me that his mom said she
Speaker 2: she like had a flat tire and he came to
Speaker 2: help her. Ted Bundy, who's mom the guy Her boyfriend's
Speaker 2: mom said back in the day she was driving from
Speaker 2: Seattle and that he was like or from Oakland or something,
Speaker 2: and that he was like she saw it was Ted
Speaker 2: Bundy who came, But the police came, and so he
Speaker 2: left but he came to help her.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's crazy, right, perfect opportunity. Wow, I'm
Speaker 1: sometimes I think about that. I have like weird thoughts,
Speaker 1: like how many times have I escaped death? I have
Speaker 1: not even known it right or escaped just anything. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of times I think back in my
Speaker 1: teenage years, so dumb, so much shick should have happened
Speaker 1: to me. You know how many hitchhikes down I like
Speaker 1: gotten shit cars to strangers. Yeah, that's insane. Often often
Speaker 1: where are you going? What do you mean? You were
Speaker 1: just like on venturup with your finger out.
Speaker 2: Like one time I went to be like, took the
Speaker 2: bus to know such mam, but we didn't want to
Speaker 2: take it back because so far on the bus and
Speaker 2: let me just ask people.
Speaker 1: What? Oh my god. One time in college, if some
Speaker 1: teenager came up to me and was like, can you
Speaker 1: take me home? I'd be like, hell, now, I have
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of rides from strangers. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: But that was I think that's because I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I'd be like, I'm not picking no,
Speaker 1: but call your mama. You need a cell phone. We're
Speaker 1: going to ride from a mom one time like not
Speaker 1: a mom is a woman?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hope my daughter is not as
Speaker 2: retarded as I am because I was dup.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you just have to be honest with
Speaker 1: her about those moments or not or maybe yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll figure it out as we go. If
Speaker 1: anyone has any advice on how to make sure your
Speaker 1: kid doesn't get in the car with the fucking strangers,
Speaker 1: or like what if your Ted Bundy's mom? What do
Speaker 1: you mean, like what, I love him.
Speaker 2: Stone, yeah, like like that's also scary. It's also a
Speaker 2: scary thought, Like as a.
Speaker 1: Mom, I love him still, but I'd be like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck did I do in life to have given
Speaker 1: birth to now?
Speaker 2: So in the movie, they say like he tries to
Speaker 2: portray all like people would like to say that I've
Speaker 2: had something happened to me as a child, but there's
Speaker 2: nothing basically like he had a totally normal childhood.
Speaker 1: However, he like basically.
Speaker 2: Confesses on tape and they take it over to his
Speaker 2: mom's house and they play the tape for her and
Speaker 2: she like falls to the floor crying, weeping, and then
Speaker 2: like five minutes Slater gets up and says, now, who wants.
Speaker 1: Apple pie and ice cream. Yeah that's what I said. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's weird. So I think we have a question from
Speaker 1: a someone in our DMS. Yes, listener, Yes, this one
Speaker 1: was pretty heavy. It's a heavy question. It was pretty heavy.
Speaker 1: And the question is how do I tell my daughter
Speaker 1: that her dad is incarcerated for life without parole. The
Speaker 1: last time he's seen her she was only three months
Speaker 1: old and she's almost three now. I have questions like,
Speaker 1: as she sees, how she been to visit him. The
Speaker 1: last time she saw her is at three months oh
Speaker 1: three months old? Oh yeah, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was a visitor, if that was before incident. I
Speaker 1: have a friend that yeah, basically since the baby was
Speaker 1: like three months old, the dad's been incarcerated, and she
Speaker 1: lets him like FaceTime and stuff, because that's like an option.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, would you like say, would you
Speaker 1: like like you don't have a dad, or would you No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you don't have a dad, And I
Speaker 1: would just maybe say he's away and never let her
Speaker 1: see the dad.
Speaker 2: Oh, like go there to visit, But that's not too much,
Speaker 2: too difficult. I think at three maybe I would go
Speaker 2: I think it's real. I think three they're getting really smart,
Speaker 2: really sharp. I mean, I just know there's like such
Speaker 2: a negative like association with jail for a child. That's
Speaker 2: the only thing that makes me hesitant. But it's like,
Speaker 2: how do you hide that and not sacrifice them not
Speaker 2: seeing their father at all?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But she also said that I said it depends like
Speaker 2: how much a relationship prior.
Speaker 1: Prior to the incident, she said he was really disrespectful
Speaker 1: to her, to her, he was really disrespectful to her
Speaker 1: during the pregnancy and basically said that she tried to
Speaker 1: trap him. Well, I'm I'm so does he not want
Speaker 1: to see the child? Is that why she hasn't seen
Speaker 1: the right? Right? If he didn't want to see her,
Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, he you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he basically doesn't exist. But if he wants to,
Speaker 2: I would. I would, I would take it. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is something I felt like I was being. I mean
Speaker 2: I kind of had to face when like my ex
Speaker 2: was in jail and like facing time.
Speaker 1: And like would you thank God, like you know, he
Speaker 1: wasn't guilty and the truth came to life? But had
Speaker 1: it not like I had, I had that thought. I
Speaker 1: had to think about that. Am I going to be
Speaker 1: traveling to Europe to show Iri her dad or to
Speaker 1: bring Iri to see her dad? In this I was
Speaker 1: already doing that at that point. We were out there
Speaker 1: that whole, those whole we like taking her to take
Speaker 1: to the jail, taking her to the No, I never
Speaker 1: took her to the joke. No, but I probably would
Speaker 1: have if that was what it had to be. Would
Speaker 1: have a decision. Yeah, I mean I would have to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he would. I mean, obviously it's a different situation.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, we don't know.
Speaker 2: But I think if he wants to see her, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I think if he doesn't, then do you tell her?
Speaker 1: Of course, she's gonna have no. She's gonna know who
Speaker 1: her dad is. She's gonna know. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: you don't have a dad. She's gonna get old enough
Speaker 1: and be like, where the fuck is my dad? Who
Speaker 1: would fuck is this? Nigga? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what you mean? You don't know what you mean?
Speaker 1: Not a bird came down in delivery, not like that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, would you say he's in jail,
Speaker 1: I just say he's away, like or to say he
Speaker 1: died or that. I don't know. I think eventually they're
Speaker 1: gonna ask you more questions. You know, it's like, so
Speaker 1: it's best to just keep it. Really, yeah, it's never
Speaker 1: it's gonna be away and it's gonna be like, you know,
Speaker 1: just just jail at three, he's being he's being housed somewhere.
Speaker 1: It's not funny, and it's not funny at all. But
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, well, yeah, I mean I guess so, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you have to start incorporating it now so
Speaker 1: that it's not weird for her. It's something she's gonna
Speaker 1: have to face regardless period. You know, it's it's almost
Speaker 1: better that she if she asks you to be honest,
Speaker 1: but maybe not offer the information too. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: how are you gonna explain where you're taking her? Like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she's gonna have to say,
Speaker 1: like assuming that she's taking here, Well, isn't that the point?
Speaker 1: Or no, she said, just tell her about him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh my god, this stake well shit situation.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm high. Oh my god, this is
Speaker 5: a tough topic in general.
Speaker 1: I think you just have to be honest. I think
Speaker 1: you have to start, there's like steps, like you know,
Speaker 1: if you're bringing her to see him, like, you know,
Speaker 1: she probably won't know what the jail is right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you try to associate
Speaker 1: it with something positive. But you can't control what the
Speaker 1: situation is when you get there, you know. But I
Speaker 1: just couldn't imagine keeping my child away from her father
Speaker 1: if he wanted to see her and they wanted to
Speaker 1: see each other, you know. You know, jail has a
Speaker 1: way of changing people too, you know, and so I'm
Speaker 1: sure if he does want to see her, maybe he's
Speaker 1: you know, remorseful for the way he treated you, and
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we need more information anyway. I hope
Speaker 1: that was helpful. I don't know if it was. What
Speaker 1: do you think? I think that was just the best
Speaker 1: we could do knowledge.
Speaker 2: Of the situation. I mean, we're not in that situation.
Speaker 2: But no, I yeah, honesty is key, period.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm confident with that answer. Okay, wait's
Speaker 1: got the right term? No, it's not, I think So
Speaker 1: let's yeah, we gotta go all right. Anyway, We'll have
Speaker 1: a wonderful week and we will catch you next time.
Speaker 3: Keeping a woman because he trusted you when that is women.
Speaker 1: Is need alone.
Speaker 3: You got Masachi, your link stummach chains from rock up,
Speaker 3: your hands down, but you stuck up in the spot
Speaker 3: and make him plumb, duke and sweet. Then he falling
Speaker 3: asleep if you want to fall with your old pee's
Speaker 3: dying the creek between my shies. So what you got
Speaker 3: sitting down on your feet?
Speaker 1: Hot sex on the flatter, mixed the Michigan Fleet up
Speaker 1: the lanternship.
Speaker 5: I do what I've got to.
Speaker 1: The last
Speaker 3: I think