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Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is good mom's bad choices. I'm Erica,

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Speaker 1: I'm Mela, Happy Wednesday. It is Wednesday. We were actually

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Speaker 1: recording on a Wednesday. We're both fucking sick. Shela fuck

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Speaker 1: got me sick, and it's my fault because I continued

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Speaker 1: to smoke after her and drink out of her waters.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do that? I don't know, because I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm fine, I'm taking vitamin yeah, so forgive

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Speaker 1: me if I'm disgusting coughing into the microphone.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try my best. But look, we've been

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Speaker 2: doing this year. This is my only time I've ever

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Speaker 1: So sorry, I know I have well. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm sick all the time you were sick, like once

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Speaker 2: I like am never sick except like one time a year,

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Speaker 2: and it's bad and I am so sick. I'm having

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Speaker 2: like strange dreams, I have a headache, I'm hacking coughing.

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Speaker 2: It's mostly because I try to ignore my sickness, like

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Speaker 2: keep going, keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I know, bit, you were out

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Speaker 1: with me last night and I was like, aren't you sick? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And finally I was like, I gotta go home. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of our week, I feel like we've been NonStop

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Speaker 1: all week. Like if anyone's thinking of starting a podcast,

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Speaker 1: rethink it. Literally, this is It's a lot of work. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're trying, and I know it seems like all we

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Speaker 1: things we're trying to do behind the scenes, and it's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to try to say I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually trying. Sorry. We were actually supposed to go

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Speaker 1: on one of our other podcast today, but we had

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Speaker 1: to cancel because nobody else wants us to hack on

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Speaker 1: their podcasts. Shout out to the Dualities podcast. We'll be

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Speaker 1: on there with our Woman soon with our carbon our woman.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to drink some of this fat Donald's xxx

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Speaker 2: Caneleen sixteen do not exceed ten ounces per twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: Still friends, our good friend King Noir, who is previously a.

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Speaker 1: Guest on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: If you have not heard that episode it's Porn and Parenting.

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Speaker 2: Him and his girl, Jazzmin are on talking porn and parenting.

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Speaker 1: They have three kids, and they're sex workers. That's what

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Speaker 1: they That's what they're called. Okay, you don't like that, No,

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Speaker 1: porn star is better for you. Oh no, it sounds

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Speaker 1: more glamorous. Sex workers sounds that's what they That's what

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Speaker 1: they have said on their Instagram. Oh okay, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know whatever. They have sex and they work. They're

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Speaker 1: working sex people. Okay, that's true, right, Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 1: Sex worker make you think like prostitution, Yeah, same thing

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Speaker 1: sort of anyway. Yeah, I mean it does, it does.

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Speaker 2: That's why whatever I mean if they I don't know

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess they're sex workers. They're in the

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Speaker 1: porn industry. They're also parents. She's also a therapist. They're

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Speaker 1: also cool. They're also the coolest, smart as fuck, smart

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Speaker 1: as fuck for sure, and they go around teaching sex

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Speaker 1: positive parenting and kink. So, speaking of them, King was

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Speaker 1: we went to see a jazz show. That was dope.

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Speaker 2: And then he was like, come by, I have this

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Speaker 2: I went to meet him at the Sanctuary LA and

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Speaker 2: he was mid porn scene, which was very interesting and

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Speaker 2: I'm highly jealous. I've never walked in a porn scene.

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Speaker 1: Jet Setting Jasmine, I highly recommend you go and search

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Speaker 1: You see more like of course you see the raunch,

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Speaker 1: you see the kink. We also see the black love,

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Speaker 1: They were saying, that's like not a big thing in

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Speaker 2: So anyway, one of the conditions of him gifting us

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Speaker 2: this fat Donald's canileen is that we need to drink

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Speaker 1: So I'm about to take a sip okay. Hmmm, vegimond

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Speaker 1: and visionmin It's delicious. Do you remember that episode? Is

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Speaker 1: thh seed, very strong. You know I'm not good with

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Speaker 1: ingesting marijuana. Oh my god, Erica teld me she goes blind.

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Speaker 1: Fuck it, No, we did. We did say we wanted

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Speaker 1: our first step of a series to today's our Ingesting

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do one. Maybe we're gonna do one drunk.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take some shots during the podcast. You guys

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do one Mushrooms Mushrooms, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll dig out some deep dark gems.

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Speaker 1: You know, I get into my feelings under the influence.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes there's been times I see ship that I see

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Speaker 1: So that's Tremila's advocacy of marijuana. Last piel spiel. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: this week in the news, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: import Grammys. Me and Jamila halfway watched the Grammys while

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Speaker 1: just so disappointed that my other woman didn't win. Georgia Smith.

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Speaker 1: She is fine as fuck. Yeah true, yeah damn anyway,

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Speaker 1: what she did. She hosted a party at Argyle Club Argo.

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Speaker 1: She knew it. Shut up, No, she didn't. She would

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Speaker 2: I was very disappointed in Camila Cabo's performance because I

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Speaker 1: The outfit was trashola. I want to know who styled

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Speaker 2: Spare us with those ugly fucking outfits. Fire your stylist,

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Speaker 1: her in Vegas. So good. She's so good. Alisha Key's

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Speaker 1: and beautiful as well. So the Grammars was cool. It's cool,

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Speaker 1: you know till next year. Yeah, anything else new in

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Speaker 1: I think I wanted. I wanted to talk about Gucci, Prada, Montclair, Montclair, Oh,

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Speaker 1: still buy their brands. What it's not right, it's not

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Speaker 1: And I think it's just like, I just want to

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Speaker 1: Well they have what's the guy's name New York. He

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Speaker 1: I think, like I just feel like, first of all,

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Speaker 1: That's why they do it. That's the only thing I

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Speaker 1: could think of, because how how how do you go

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Speaker 1: and no one says anything, like I used to think, Wow,

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Speaker 1: all that, like how how how yeah? And I mean

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Speaker 1: Look at Floyd walking into the Gucci store not giving

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Speaker 1: also doesn't read, so you know, he doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: the fuck is happening. He doesn't give a fuck about anything,

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Speaker 2: Ignorance. I mean, like ignorance is bliss. I just have

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Speaker 2: no respect for like a dumb ass like you have

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Speaker 2: all this money and you don't think, Okay, let me

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Speaker 2: just do better, Let me get a tutor, let me

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge like Gucci, Prada, Fandy, Like, I'm

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Speaker 2: I just think it's just there's other more important things

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Speaker 2: you could be putting your dollar two. There's other people

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Speaker 2: important things. And I just think it's fucking ridiculous. But

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Speaker 2: that there's like Iron iron whatever you call them, iron

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Speaker 1: But it's like who in the fuck is buying this

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Speaker 1: a very dark history. It's just a very dark history

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Speaker 1: to be collecting and celebrating, Like I know, it's a

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Speaker 2: There's like a black designer named Montgomery or something, and

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Speaker 2: of like anti mi men blackface like things, and I

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Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of still among us because we're in

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Speaker 1: Blackfishing? Like it's called a a like makeup can make

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Speaker 2: Erica show me me and our other friend Carleton in

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the thing blackfishing, white girls, if

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Speaker 2: Was like, it's I don't want to say that all

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Speaker 2: black women like have these like long weaves and long

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of shippers in Atlanta. I'm looking at Instagram.

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Speaker 1: These nails were not y'all were not trying to have

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Speaker 1: hairs rows. Yeah, it's just cheek boneas really, because they

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Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know. It's it's very strange

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Speaker 1: you bitches better be front line, okay, because if you

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Speaker 1: want to emulate a culture, or you think you're emulating

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Speaker 1: no way they don't realize it. There's no fucking way

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Speaker 1: they don't realize. No, they don't. They look at their

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Speaker 2: It irritates me that there was a time where certain

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Speaker 1: Now it's in.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a time where like you couldn't

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Speaker 2: So like you don't really realize like the history and

424
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: the struggle that has come to embrace our natural shit.

425
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: So much of black women have to conform to a

426
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: European standard of beauty just to feel like people can

427
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: hear me, or people can like take me serious, take

428
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: me seriously. Like even as a waitresser, like wearing certain hairstyles,

429
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: I totally noticed the difference in like tips and friendliness.

430
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: And it's just like now you want.

431
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: To be like you can't pick and choose take some

432
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: of a culture, but none of the bad.

433
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: You know, we go through a lot of shit just

434
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: being black, and it's just an ironic, strange thing to

435
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: see develop. And like sometimes they'll scroll past certain pictures

436
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: like fuck Chloe, and I love Chloe. She's a cancer,

437
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: she might be have fuck, but I just am like,

438
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: but she looks like a light skinned black girl.

439
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 2: I had to look twice, you know, and it's like

440
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: not to say yeah, okay, but okay, there's a difference

441
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: between like Chloe. And then what's the sister who hasn't

442
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: gotten any of the younger sister Kendall.

443
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, she still looks what she is, white, white, and

444
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: you don't. Maybe it's that face and that ass and

445
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: that wig and those nails. But it's just like, damn

446
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: you guys. And I'm not saying we can't share.

447
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: But be present when you when there's when there's there's

448
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: fucked up shit going on the community.

449
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: Which is happening daily every day, be an ally. Be

450
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: an ally. If if you want to be so deep

451
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: in the culture, you want to date the man, you

452
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: want to wear that you want to dress off, the talk,

453
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the slag wear, the nails, wear the support, the music,

454
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: go to the basketball game. Then when shit hits a fan,

455
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: when innocent people are getting killed, and when things are

456
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: when there's injustice in the community, I want you bitches

457
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: to be the first ones to use your media power

458
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: to speak the fuck up or at least ask how

459
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: can I help, how can I help? Tell me what

460
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I can do? You know. Yeah, And like just to

461
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: touch on the history of the menstrual shows, because I mean,

462
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: of course I know what a mental show is. Of

463
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: course I know what black faces. But you know, that's

464
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: the beauty of having our podcast is that it forces

465
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: me to have to educate myself. So The Minstrual Show

466
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: first began around eighteen thirties around the eighteen thirties in

467
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: New York City and basically consisted of white actors painting

468
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: their face in black quark and their lips red to

469
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: emulate blacks black slaves.

470
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: Large, large over over lips, baboon like monkey like talking,

471
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: and it consisted of comedy skits or performances, but it

472
00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: really mocked or depicted blacks as lazy, ignorant, cowardly, hypersexual.

473
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: The Help, The Help Uneducated and Kunes Yeah essentially and

474
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: Mint the Mitchell Show were essentially the lens through which

475
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: white people viewed black people in America. Like the white

476
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: people would look at these shows and like this is

477
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: this is who black people are, and you would think,

478
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: like it's crazy. When I was researching this to see

479
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: how many different celebrities had participated in this, like some.

480
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: Some of like celebrities like little like celebrities that I

481
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: grew up watching, had no I had no idea Charley Temple.

482
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: There was a picture of Shirley Temple getting her little

483
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: baby face painted black, and I almost like, wow, this

484
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: is so fucked up. She's a child, she doesn't even know.

485
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure she does know, but like, just like

486
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: the educating of these kids, that's such an age, it's

487
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: so important. Mickey Rooney, Louis Armstrong, Joan Crawford being Crosby.

488
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Even like some black back, black people were dressing up

489
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: in blackface. I didn't want to say this one because

490
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: I love him still, Jimmy Kimball, Jimmy Kimble, and he

491
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: did it, but like, wait, yeah, for what on a show?

492
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, Jimmy Kimble. No Fallon, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Fallon.

493
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: I love Jimmy Fallen. Why do you do that? What

494
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: was he doing? I forgot? Do you get a lot

495
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: of blacklash for that time? I don't think so, but

496
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I just saw it on that show. But he seems

497
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: really socially where I'm surprised, but everybody's look into that.

498
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: But even black people were dressing up as black face

499
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: because that's the only way that they could work. People

500
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: didn't even want them to look black like how they

501
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: actually look. They wanted to look like this cartoonish depiction

502
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: of black. So when you see these designers like depicting

503
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: blackface on their products. Still it's just like and people

504
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: collecting things. It's just it's very strange.

505
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: And it's a global epidemic. Like when I watched that show,

506
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: at the end they you guys should look into that show.

507
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: But at the end they show blackface and all these

508
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: different countries on products, on TV shows, on mainstream things, Berlin, France, Mexico.

509
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a worldwide thing. Wasn't just here.

510
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: But it's just so insensitive. It's so insensitive, Like I

511
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: don't think people actually recognize just like.

512
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Just how the dark history behind it being black. It's

513
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: just dark, and you know, and some people like you know,

514
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: like the designer that you like in Brooklyn who is

515
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: black and creates these images. I mean I get, I get,

516
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I get like taking back the significance of it and

517
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: like reclaiming it and making it something different definitely, because

518
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: you know what it is.

519
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Also I recognize is that as African Americans, we lack history,

520
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: we lack roots because we have only been taught this

521
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: really dark history. So there has to be a reclaim,

522
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: there has to be an embrace because a lot of

523
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: like our music our culture is who we are, it

524
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: is all we are. But it's like only from what

525
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: we've been given, and this is the type of shit

526
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: we've been given, like very dark things. So that's why

527
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: I like it that just to take it back, I like, I.

528
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't I'm like, I understand it, but

529
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: also I don't know, I don't know. I'm conflicted about

530
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: it because I feel like that sends so confused. White

531
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: people get confused. They get very confused. Sometimes you have

532
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: to draw hard lines. In the great words of Sharonas,

533
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: just a little slow. Wait. I had someone one of

534
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the girls from my work who happens to be a

535
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Caucasian and who loves Sharonas be like, I heard your

536
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: episode and he said, white girls are slow. I know

537
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: our favorite, our number one fan, our friend Nelly, was like, ah, Sharonas,

538
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: while we got to be slow. She dms me.

539
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Specifically about this. Shout out to Nelly. I'm like, Key meant,

540
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: like that girl, he.

541
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: Did some slow shit. That's what I'm saying is I

542
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: think when we collect those items, even though we're trying

543
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: to reclaim, sorry, we're trying to reclaim them, I think

544
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: it sends a mixed message to white people, and then

545
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: they get confused and then they think they can participate

546
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: because they always want to participate in the shit we're participating,

547
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and then it becomes this like circle. It's like either

548
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: you like it or you don't. I feel like sometimes

549
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: you have to just be like it's out. It's out

550
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: for everyone, you know, but we know that's not going

551
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: to happen. So I don't know anyway, I just I

552
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: encourage you guys. Obviously this is it's Black History Month,

553
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: but you know we've been designated this month. But really,

554
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: if you are black, you know that every day should

555
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: be you should honor who you are and we should

556
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: support one another. And if you aren't black and you

557
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: have black friends or you have black babies, you know,

558
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: try to We've had this episode before, you know, trying

559
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: to you know, talk about your kids, about who they are,

560
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: but also just try to support support black businesses, you know,

561
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: like just support, show that support we need. We want

562
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: to see it. And I know that sometimes people question

563
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: how we can help. That's one of the biggest ones

564
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: because money talks, and we need we need that support,

565
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: and black people will have to do better too. I

566
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know If you guys have watched this Killer Mike

567
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Show on Netflix. If you haven't, I highly highly highly

568
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's so good. And one of the the

569
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: first episode is basically he has a show he's in

570
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I guess he lives in I think he lives in Atlanta.

571
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: He has a show somewhere in Georgia, and he it's

572
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: like three days away, and he said, you know, I'm

573
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: challenging myself for the next three days to only buy

574
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: black and use black products, period. And so the show

575
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: was documenting this journey and basically it was a fucking

576
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: almost impossible, like like he went to this guy who

577
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: happened to be like the ress for all black things owned,

578
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: and he had a black phone, Like he had a

579
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: phone that was like owned by black people. So he

580
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: had his phone. He got that he couldn't smoke weed

581
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: because none of the farms were black owned or growers

582
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: were black owned. He barely could eat because even the

583
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: black owned restaurants, the food they were getting was from

584
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: tribute from blacks. So because he was taking it to

585
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that level, so that the root of it, even trying

586
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: to get transportation to get to his show was difficult,

587
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: Like he had at the end of the day, he

588
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: had to make some sort of exception and so he

589
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: went to a black owned business that owned car like

590
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: owned tour buses, so he had to take a whole

591
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: tour bus to his show by himself, and fucks trying

592
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: to find a place to stay. He was sleeping on

593
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: a park bench, you know, black owned hotels or you

594
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And just putting that like seeing

595
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: that in Georgia, that's crazy because even you would think

596
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: it really put it in perspective. For me, I was like, wow,

597
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: this is It's so true. Got to watch it. It's

598
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: really interesting. So I recommend you watch it. But anyway,

599
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: and if about all of our black shit, It's Valentine's

600
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: Day tomorrow. Happy Valentine's Day to those love birds out

601
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: there or you're not not. We wanted to do our

602
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day episode and discuss our views and feelings on

603
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. And actually this came up for me recently

604
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: because they start instilling this whole Valentine's Day narrative. So

605
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: young Irie's in school obviously and she, you know, celebrating

606
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day tomorrow, and you know, they teach it about love.

607
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: And I think this is almost like when people like

608
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: you is Valentine's Day, like where you start realizing, like

609
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: it's supposed to have a boyfriend now ny movies or

610
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: where you like, oh that's true, that's true.

611
00:34:53,160 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: Secon Luna bought the entire family cookies, lollipops, balloon. She

612
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: got me a fake bouquet of heart flowers, and she

613
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: said this is for you for when you get married.

614
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: So it's I know, and I always I was going

615
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: to be like the mom, like who made baskets for

616
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: Easter and like for Valentine's Like meanwhile, I'm like down

617
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: with the man. This is fake, but I mean, I

618
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just some fake us. All the holidays

619
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: are fake.

620
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I used to take Valentine's Day seriously when you're in

621
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: seventh grade, no, like like high school, early twenties. Well

622
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: that's what it's fun.

623
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the fun. I like, I like arts

624
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: and crabs and shit, and I really do like love.

625
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm just not into spending money on some fake ass

626
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: bullshit because to me, like doesn't make me feel special,

627
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 2: Like I just want you to do something special like.

628
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I want to.

629
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know it is nice for someone to do

630
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: something nice for you. And of course I like gifts,

631
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: but like I'm go into cheesy as shit. Don't buy

632
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: me no rose, don't buy right. I don't want no

633
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: funck a teddy bear made of roses. Take me to

634
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: get a sake, pay a bill?

635
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real?

636
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: Like I like to eat and I like experiences me too.

637
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Get this, Get this flower rose out of my face.

638
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: I like flowers, I just don't want them to be

639
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: in a shape of a teddy bear.

640
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: So you really even want flowers on Valentine's Day though,

641
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: It's just so I want flowers every day to be

642
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: in that exactly, Like, yeah, chocolate, I don't fucking eat

643
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: chocolate at that ship out of my face? Yeah I don't.

644
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't. It's funny though, because

645
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: there's a heart shaped Do you know what I find?

646
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Or at least in my last relationship, I found that

647
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day was more taken seriously by the man than

648
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: by me. I know, for real it is, But I'm like, no,

649
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: it's not always like that. I know there's a lot

650
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: of women out there that really pressure their men, like

651
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: what do we do have Valentine's Day, like, oh my god,

652
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: I got my BALANCEE. Then you go somewhere and there's

653
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: like everybody in their mama there because it's all pre set.

654
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: I didn't even want this. I wanted to order. I

655
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: wanted to order.

656
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: It's so many people, it's so crowded. Everybody's pretend holding hands.

657
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: So gay? Are we just? Are we better? No? We

658
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: don't have Valentine's No, really not, because you know what.

659
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: I had this. I had this conversation with myself the

660
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: other day because I know everybody else knows. I know

661
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: you know. You ever go on Instagram and.

662
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: See those people who are so in love it's like

663
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: beautiful but annoying.

664
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: And I had talk with myself. I'm like, am I

665
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: annoyed by this?

666
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, because I want that, And I'm gonna

667
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: be that annoying on Instagram when I get a man

668
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: that I really like.

669
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: But it just has to be someone I really know.

670
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm lying, I'm never gonna be that annoying on Instagram.

671
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever been like that on Instagram?

672
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: No?

673
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean I suppose I may be daddy, but like

674
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit black love. No, I don't think

675
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: i've ever hashtagged that. But oh my god, I'm gonna

676
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: go back, bitch, makee me scroll back. Oh my god,

677
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: I think that Candileen is getting to me. What was

678
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: it talking about? Uh No, I'm not jealous. I just

679
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: I think when something's really good, you don't have to

680
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: talk about it a lot. It doesn't have to be

681
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: necessarily pushed up. But I get I get wanting to

682
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't. I don't like.

683
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it's annoying. I think it's more annoying

684
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: when bitches are like I need a man, my love

685
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: is coming. Have you ever seen those posts too?

686
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: No?

687
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so like the thirstiest bitches like I

688
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: can't wait for my man. Like it's that's annoying, more

689
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: annoying than real love posts. I just feel like you

690
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: and your partner, if you have one, should make an

691
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: effort to express your love for one another daily, daily,

692
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, it doesn't have to be on February fourteenth.

693
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, It's just I don't know even like happy Bay.

694
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: He asked me. He was like, so what do you

695
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: ask me? Like? What are you doing? What are you

696
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: doing on Valentine's Day? And I was like I don't

697
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: believe Valentine's Day and he was like, oh my god,

698
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: thank god. He was like, cause I was gonna tell

699
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: you all the reasons why I don't believe Valentine's Day.

700
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean my ex like, and

701
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: I would tell my ex too, like we don't have

702
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to do anything on Valentine's Day, Like seriously, we don't

703
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: need to do anything. You don't need to buy me anything.

704
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: And he would always buy me something, and of course

705
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: that was nice and I liked it. It was sweet,

706
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: but then I'd get pissed because Nigga, I told you

707
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna buy you shit, and now you brought

708
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: me a gift and now I like it. Ask yeah,

709
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I hate like I tell you, we told, I told you,

710
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: We're not doing that. I'm shit. I've also had like

711
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: a few fights on Valentine's Day, so like not even

712
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: about Valentine's Day, just like like an argument happened, happened

713
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: to happen on that day. So I was just like,

714
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: fuck this day. You know, at the end of the day,

715
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: this is just another month of fucking day where we're

716
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna fight or not. You know.

717
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: I had I had a girlfriend once and she made

718
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: such a big deal about Valentine's Day and like made

719
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: me get dressed, and I was like, be ready this time.

720
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: And then I guess when the day came, like we

721
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: missed the show, and then she just like got me

722
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: in necklace and then like fed me store bought sushi.

723
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: I was just like a girl that liked you. We

724
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: were in a relationship. Oh oh, this is a long

725
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: time ago. I was hot. I was so irritated.

726
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: I was like, why the fuck do you have me

727
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: get all this dressed, all this hype, and this bitch

728
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: is feeding me store bos.

729
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: It was more about the food shit, I know. Okay,

730
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: So so you said be cheap. Okay. So if you

731
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: have subscribed to our newsletter, is that everyone just jumped

732
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: on that roost. If you subscribe to our newsletter, which

733
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: you guys all should, because there's some extra information in there.

734
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: We do some updates on our personal lives up there,

735
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: and we share event information, which, by the way, we're

736
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: having an event March nineteenth, Wait sixteenth. March sixteenth. March

737
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: sixteenth is our one year Anna Versus a relive show

738
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: flash party. Flash party. But still but apparently this candeleeen

739
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: is working, so you drinks some more. Noma, Wait what

740
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: was I saying? I already forgot where this was going.

741
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: We have events? Oh our newsletter? Oh yeah, our newsletter.

742
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: Do you have a newsletter? Yeah? Follow it. You can

743
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: subscribe on our website to our newsletter. But I was

744
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: saying something before that. We talked about our views on

745
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Valentine's Oh before the newsletter. Oh yeah, yeah, Jamila in

746
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: the newsletter was saying how she like, we were just

747
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: encouraging you guys to, you know, take yourself out on

748
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, get your stuff out on the day, your baby,

749
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: maybe you and your daughter out or your son out

750
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: on the jay and like do something special like that,

751
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: you know, or treat yourself to treat yourself. Yeah, get

752
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: a little massage, running a run of bath, smoke a joint,

753
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: watch your favorite show you've been meaning to catch up on,

754
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: and just do the whole do the self care thing

755
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: and not make it about a relationship. The biggest relationship

756
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: and the most important relationship you have is with yourself,

757
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: So nurture that if that's if it's so important to

758
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: you this day. But Jamila was saying, you know, the

759
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: best way to go is free. Just make it free.

760
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: And well, I think all the sexiest shit is free.

761
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Like I want to cook naked for you. I want

762
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: to give you a massage naked. I want to wear

763
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: this lingerie and then get naked, which I for myself,

764
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna naked. I got this way, call

765
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: me something else that's yeah, it's role playing no, and

766
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I get that too, I think. But I think if

767
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: you are, if you believe in this holiday so much,

768
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: then but buy something. Then don't be cheap about like

769
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: don't you don't have to buy something expensive, but don't

770
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: buy like the cheap teddy barrels. If you're gonna do it,

771
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: then do it. Get something actually that the person's gonna lie,

772
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: even if it is small. Yeah, But like Jamila, I'm

773
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely more so about if I'm if I was

774
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: celebrating Valentine's Day, it's about the experience. If I was

775
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna spend it with someone else.

776
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: I'm so cursed my own family, My whole family is

777
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: all holidays are like it's the man's holiday trying to

778
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: get your money.

779
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not very holidays. But except for my birthday,

780
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: A very into.

781
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: My birthday and everything else is the man's holiday.

782
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: So but yeah, sometimes it's fun. I'm gonna feel sick again.

783
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: Clearly my coughing my nose is.

784
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, not not very appealing in the microphone.

785
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: I might have to add it that out. I don't

786
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: want me laugh. It makes me cough. Oh another update,

787
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: speaking of Valentine's Day and love and relationships that I'm

788
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: not participating it. I'm also sixty one days sullivant, and

789
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: I did not think that I could do that. So

790
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: that's neither did I.

791
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: Thanks friend, I'm really proud of you. So yeah, I've

792
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: been consciously sullivant for sixty one days and it's pretty.

793
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's cool. Sometimes I get in like horny modes,

794
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: like must have dick, dick, dick, because I think all

795
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: these sexual thoughts and then it goes away. Oh so

796
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: you masturbate in your mind, my mo's mental master masturbation.

797
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: I just think like skin close thoughts, sweat, heavy, breathing, biting,

798
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: we liquid liquid measure me like penetration, penetration, penetration, and

799
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: then I'm like, okay, back to the regular life. Oh masturbation. Okay,

800
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm still going to encourage you to get a vibrator,

801
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: a new one. Do you think you need a new one?

802
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Because clearly, sorry, oh my god, clearly the old one

803
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: is not You're not going to it, you're not excited

804
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: about it. I don't have you watched tidy. She's like,

805
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: does this bring your joy? If it bring your joy,

806
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: you keep it. She doesn't like, she doesn't speak English,

807
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: anything that brings you joy. She's like this little voice.

808
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: But ever, the whole thing is like, does it make

809
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: you feel joy? So maybe my brother doesn't make me

810
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: feel joy? Yeah, you gotta find a new exciting, joyous vibratory.

811
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up close what she says

812
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: to do with your things, like bring it close to

813
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: your chest and see if it brings you joy.

814
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: Oh the show? Oh? Is that the show? Yeah?

815
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: Not even functually, it's about tidying, like getting rid of

816
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: shit and just keeping the things I bring you.

817
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: My friend Xavier was telling me about that. He was

818
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: telling me I needed to watch that. He just watched

819
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: and it changed his life.

820
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: It's like the top three shows right now on Netflix,

821
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: one of the top three watched shows.

822
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: Did we already talk about that? Other weird show Abducted

823
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: in plain Sight. Yeah we did, ok, Yeah, because I

824
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: know that's an What about Ted Bundy? I haven't seen that?

825
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yeah? I watched it. Oh my god.

826
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: You know it's just got sick like we go means

827
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: you don't watch all six She always turns on the

828
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: darkest shit and then falls asleep, and then my nosey

829
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: ass can't stop watching.

830
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: It's like six episodes of the darkness of said Bundy,

831
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: and like a serial killer of young women.

832
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: It's very scary. Yeah. I know. He because he was

833
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: good looking and charming, and so he would get away

834
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: with it. And he was like Lokia genius. No, No,

835
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: that was a lie. He's not genious. He was just

836
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: so he was psycho.

837
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: No, he was kind of smart and he can manipulate,

838
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: but in reality he really wasn't that smart. His I

839
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: he could, his IQ was actually very low and adjusted,

840
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: and it made him feel inadequate.

841
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: He was didn't he defend himself? Yeah, but he was

842
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: tamed as a lawyer. He was crazy insecure in his

843
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: whole childhood, in his whole life, he was like pretending

844
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: to be so smart and so eloquent, and he wanted

845
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: to be like a Republican party against like juvenile delinquents.

846
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: And he's a psychopath and he really wasn't that smart,

847
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: but he was. How many people they killed seventeen thirty seventy,

848
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, women brutally like smashing their heads, grabbing

849
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: them out of their beds, strangling them and pulling into

850
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: his trunk. Random bitches. Random.

851
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: He literally killed bitches through out of their bedrooms that

852
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: he'd never seen before.

853
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: It was crazy, followed them and took them and left

854
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: them in the woods. That's crazy. And then had a

855
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: girlfriend during and then didn't kill her, didn't not tell her.

856
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: She came to the places like, I don't know what

857
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: I think. It's my boyfriend. His name is Ted, and

858
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: he has all these different house keys at his house,

859
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: and he's been gone mysteriously from some of these times

860
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: of these women's abductions. And sometimes he tells me he

861
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: follows like college students and he can't help it.

862
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's the one who got him caught up

863
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: or what? No, Then they were watching him, but he

864
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: kept going, damn bitch, they got him. He escaped twice, right, twice,

865
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: that's right. I wouldn't tell me, this niggas not a genius.

866
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: He's white. White.

867
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I was doing a client and she's white.

868
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: I think she's half Mexican of white. And her boyfriend

869
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: is black and Indian, you know. And he was like,

870
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: she's like I was.

871
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Watching them that with my boyfriend, and he said if

872
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: he was black, he would have never got away with that.

873
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I was like, he's right, that's true. He like jumped

874
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: out of the window. Do you mean he's not shackled

875
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: to get this jug what do you mean here to

876
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: get shot? We're gonna chase him. He was gone for

877
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: a week. Girl in the woods. Almost god, I don't

878
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: use force right if you see him, if you see him,

879
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: whispered gently, come here, Ted come only killed thirty bitches? Crazy?

880
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god.

881
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: Also, my client told me that his mom said she

882
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: she like had a flat tire and he came to

883
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: help her. Ted Bundy, who's mom the guy Her boyfriend's

884
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: mom said back in the day she was driving from

885
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Seattle and that he was like or from Oakland or something,

886
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: and that he was like she saw it was Ted

887
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Bundy who came, But the police came, and so he

888
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: left but he came to help her.

889
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: I was like, that's crazy, right, perfect opportunity. Wow, I'm

890
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I think about that. I have like weird thoughts,

891
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: like how many times have I escaped death? I have

892
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: not even known it right or escaped just anything. There's

893
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: been a lot of times I think back in my

894
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: teenage years, so dumb, so much shick should have happened

895
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: to me. You know how many hitchhikes down I like

896
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: gotten shit cars to strangers. Yeah, that's insane. Often often

897
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: where are you going? What do you mean? You were

898
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: just like on venturup with your finger out.

899
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Like one time I went to be like, took the

900
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: bus to know such mam, but we didn't want to

901
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: take it back because so far on the bus and

902
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: let me just ask people.

903
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: What? Oh my god. One time in college, if some

904
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: teenager came up to me and was like, can you

905
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: take me home? I'd be like, hell, now, I have

906
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of rides from strangers. Oh no, no,

907
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: But that was I think that's because I'm a woman.

908
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I'd be like, I'm not picking no,

909
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: but call your mama. You need a cell phone. We're

910
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: going to ride from a mom one time like not

911
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: a mom is a woman?

912
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hope my daughter is not as

913
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: retarded as I am because I was dup.

914
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think you just have to be honest with

915
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: her about those moments or not or maybe yeah, I

916
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll figure it out as we go. If

917
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: anyone has any advice on how to make sure your

918
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: kid doesn't get in the car with the fucking strangers,

919
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: or like what if your Ted Bundy's mom? What do

920
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you mean, like what, I love him.

921
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: Stone, yeah, like like that's also scary. It's also a

922
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: scary thought, Like as a.

923
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Mom, I love him still, but I'd be like, what

924
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: the fuck did I do in life to have given

925
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: birth to now?

926
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: So in the movie, they say like he tries to

927
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: portray all like people would like to say that I've

928
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: had something happened to me as a child, but there's

929
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: nothing basically like he had a totally normal childhood.

930
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: However, he like basically.

931
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Confesses on tape and they take it over to his

932
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: mom's house and they play the tape for her and

933
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: she like falls to the floor crying, weeping, and then

934
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: like five minutes Slater gets up and says, now, who wants.

935
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: Apple pie and ice cream. Yeah that's what I said. Okay, yeah,

936
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: that's weird. So I think we have a question from

937
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: a someone in our DMS. Yes, listener, Yes, this one

938
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: was pretty heavy. It's a heavy question. It was pretty heavy.

939
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: And the question is how do I tell my daughter

940
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: that her dad is incarcerated for life without parole. The

941
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: last time he's seen her she was only three months

942
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: old and she's almost three now. I have questions like,

943
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: as she sees, how she been to visit him. The

944
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: last time she saw her is at three months oh

945
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: three months old? Oh yeah, so I don't know if

946
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: I was a visitor, if that was before incident. I

947
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: have a friend that yeah, basically since the baby was

948
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: like three months old, the dad's been incarcerated, and she

949
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: lets him like FaceTime and stuff, because that's like an option.

950
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know, would you like say, would you

951
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: like like you don't have a dad, or would you No,

952
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you don't have a dad, And I

953
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: would just maybe say he's away and never let her

954
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: see the dad.

955
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: Oh, like go there to visit, But that's not too much,

956
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: too difficult. I think at three maybe I would go

957
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: I think it's real. I think three they're getting really smart,

958
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: really sharp. I mean, I just know there's like such

959
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: a negative like association with jail for a child. That's

960
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: the only thing that makes me hesitant. But it's like,

961
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: how do you hide that and not sacrifice them not

962
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: seeing their father at all?

963
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: Right?

964
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: But she also said that I said it depends like

965
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: how much a relationship prior.

966
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: Prior to the incident, she said he was really disrespectful

967
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: to her, to her, he was really disrespectful to her

968
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: during the pregnancy and basically said that she tried to

969
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: trap him. Well, I'm I'm so does he not want

970
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: to see the child? Is that why she hasn't seen

971
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: the right? Right? If he didn't want to see her,

972
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, he you don't.

973
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he basically doesn't exist. But if he wants to,

974
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: I would. I would, I would take it. Yeah, this

975
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: is something I felt like I was being. I mean

976
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: I kind of had to face when like my ex

977
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: was in jail and like facing time.

978
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: And like would you thank God, like you know, he

979
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: wasn't guilty and the truth came to life? But had

980
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: it not like I had, I had that thought. I

981
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: had to think about that. Am I going to be

982
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: traveling to Europe to show Iri her dad or to

983
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: bring Iri to see her dad? In this I was

984
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: already doing that at that point. We were out there

985
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: that whole, those whole we like taking her to take

986
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: to the jail, taking her to the No, I never

987
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: took her to the joke. No, but I probably would

988
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: have if that was what it had to be. Would

989
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: have a decision. Yeah, I mean I would have to. Yeah,

990
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean he would. I mean, obviously it's a different situation.

991
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, Well, we don't know.

992
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: But I think if he wants to see her, yes, yes,

993
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: I think if he doesn't, then do you tell her?

994
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Of course, she's gonna have no. She's gonna know who

995
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: her dad is. She's gonna know. I'm not gonna say

996
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: you don't have a dad. She's gonna get old enough

997
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: and be like, where the fuck is my dad? Who

998
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: would fuck is this? Nigga? You know what I mean?

999
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: Like what you mean? You don't know what you mean?

1000
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Not a bird came down in delivery, not like that.

1001
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, would you say he's in jail,

1002
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: I just say he's away, like or to say he

1003
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: died or that. I don't know. I think eventually they're

1004
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna ask you more questions. You know, it's like, so

1005
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: it's best to just keep it. Really, yeah, it's never

1006
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be away and it's gonna be like, you know,

1007
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: just just jail at three, he's being he's being housed somewhere.

1008
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: It's not funny, and it's not funny at all. But

1009
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, well, yeah, I mean I guess so, yeah.

1010
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: I think you have to start incorporating it now so

1011
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: that it's not weird for her. It's something she's gonna

1012
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: have to face regardless period. You know, it's it's almost

1013
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: better that she if she asks you to be honest,

1014
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: but maybe not offer the information too. Really, I mean,

1015
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: how are you gonna explain where you're taking her? Like,

1016
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she's gonna have to say,

1017
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: like assuming that she's taking here, Well, isn't that the point?

1018
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: Or no, she said, just tell her about him. I

1019
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh my god, this stake well shit situation.

1020
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm high. Oh my god, this is

1021
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 5: a tough topic in general.

1022
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: I think you just have to be honest. I think

1023
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: you have to start, there's like steps, like you know,

1024
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: if you're bringing her to see him, like, you know,

1025
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: she probably won't know what the jail is right now,

1026
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you try to associate

1027
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: it with something positive. But you can't control what the

1028
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: situation is when you get there, you know. But I

1029
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: just couldn't imagine keeping my child away from her father

1030
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: if he wanted to see her and they wanted to

1031
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: see each other, you know. You know, jail has a

1032
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: way of changing people too, you know, and so I'm

1033
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: sure if he does want to see her, maybe he's

1034
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, remorseful for the way he treated you, and

1035
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we need more information anyway. I hope

1036
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: that was helpful. I don't know if it was. What

1037
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: do you think? I think that was just the best

1038
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: we could do knowledge.

1039
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: Of the situation. I mean, we're not in that situation.

1040
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: But no, I yeah, honesty is key, period.

1041
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm confident with that answer. Okay, wait's

1042
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: got the right term? No, it's not, I think So

1043
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: let's yeah, we gotta go all right. Anyway, We'll have

1044
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: a wonderful week and we will catch you next time.

1045
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: Keeping a woman because he trusted you when that is women.

1046
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: Is need alone.

1047
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: You got Masachi, your link stummach chains from rock up,

1048
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: your hands down, but you stuck up in the spot

1049
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: and make him plumb, duke and sweet. Then he falling

1050
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: asleep if you want to fall with your old pee's

1051
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: dying the creek between my shies. So what you got

1052
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 3: sitting down on your feet?

1053
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Hot sex on the flatter, mixed the Michigan Fleet up

1054
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: the lanternship.

1055
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: I do what I've got to.

1056
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: The last

1057
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: I think