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Speaker 2: Former NFL scout. He hosts three and Out podcast Hardest

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Speaker 2: working Guy in This business and totally tied into the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers who hold on to beat

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Speaker 2: Dallas thirty to twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would be that close. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll spend fifteen twenty minutes on this Listen their things.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco does well. They run the ball. They had,

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Speaker 2: you know, two hundred yards rushing. Dallas doesn't run the ball.

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Speaker 2: We knew that going into the season. They had just

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Speaker 2: I thought they adjusted really well at halftime tonight they

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Speaker 2: were really struggling stopping Dallas in the first half. Dallas

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Speaker 2: was getting a push and then the kind of exploded

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Speaker 2: in the third quarter. I do not trust this Niner

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Speaker 2: pass rusher team Laighton games. They've been burned late in games.

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Speaker 2: I thought brought pretty really struggled low off target early.

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Speaker 2: I thought later in the second half to gain confidence,

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Speaker 2: he used his legs a little bit, started moving, kind

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Speaker 2: of gain confidence, hit on some nice throws.

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Speaker 4: Kittle had a great night.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think there's a difference between Dallas and

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. I think San Francisco is a good team

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Speaker 2: that is just physically like the Rams in the first month,

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Speaker 2: just beat up. They just don't have enough good players.

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas is a bad team that actually played

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Speaker 2: pretty well tonight. They got to break when the couple

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Speaker 2: of Niners banged into each other and Ceedee Lamb got

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Speaker 2: a you know, wide open touchdown. And I've been saying

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Speaker 2: this for a while. Dallas almost if you're a cowboy

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Speaker 2: fant and I You're like, wow, we made it competitive

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Speaker 2: at the end. I think they got to take a swing.

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 2: I think they have to do something in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I think they have to sell some pieces, get two

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Speaker 2: high draft picks. I don't see the way out for Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Dak is ordinary. They're paying him a fortune, They're locked

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Speaker 2: into him. If Ceedee Lamb twisted his ankle. They don't

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Speaker 2: have a guy on this offensive roster that you would

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Speaker 2: be forced to roll coverage over. I think it's despite

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Speaker 2: the score tonight, I think it's grimmer for Dallas than

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Speaker 2: people think, especially with Washington now like looking like the

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Speaker 2: next decade they're gonna be locked in with Jade Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is not a game. I guess

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Speaker 1: you need to worry about most people box score scouting

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Speaker 1: because everyone watches it. But that score, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns in the last five or six minutes

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Speaker 1: of the game. One of the drives was a seventy

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Speaker 1: second drive, which you know is pretty unheard of in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Obviously the Niners the first touchdown drive playing

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Speaker 1: way off. You know what hit me tonight is the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers have beat these guys now four times

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Speaker 1: in a row, twice in the playoffs. They molly wopped

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Speaker 1: him last year on Sunday Night Football. They were up

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Speaker 1: in this game twenty seven to ten, missing a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys. This matchup, which is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: matchups of my life in terms of brands in the history,

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Speaker 1: is currently Kyle Shanahan, who's you know for a young

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Speaker 1: guy who's been coaching in the NFL for twenty years

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Speaker 1: and his dad is one of the most famous offensive

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Speaker 1: And John Lynch, who currently last year or two years

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers brass building this team against an eighty

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Speaker 1: plus year old Jerry Jones. It just it was like,

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Speaker 1: this is not really a fair fight, because it's not

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Speaker 1: like they both hit on some high end players Micah

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Speaker 1: cd nick Bosa, Right, I mean they've both hit on

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Speaker 1: trade for Trent Williams paying a bunch of money. But

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers team is littered with guys in

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Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth round. That Isaac Grendo is a

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Speaker 1: fourth round rookie running back and boom, plug and play.

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Speaker 1: What's the whole thing? Cowboys? No running back? They're playing

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Speaker 1: Zeke can't run away from me or you who's tough,

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Speaker 1: physical guy but can't move. They draft Isaac, well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: third string quarterback. Right, and listen, I admire Jerry's clearly

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Speaker 1: from a business standpoint. He's been incredible for thirty plus years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, they sell practice facility tours to make

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Speaker 1: a little ex income. But that he tried to strike

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Speaker 1: oil on that one, and sometimes he does that, and

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna strike oil Jerry, like you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: Kyle who are you bidding against? On that one? And

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Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks in his draft class who are way

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Speaker 1: better went for like six and seventh round picks Fields,

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Zach Wilson. So that's kind of a microcosm

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch. But you could just go

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Speaker 1: right less need Sean McVeigh, Dan Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Guda Kin's lafor how is Jerry compete the NFC even

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Speaker 1: you know the Eagles Sirianni's under but no one questions

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Speaker 1: Howie's intelligence. So from a football standpoint, in that conference

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the high end quarterbacks of the Mahomes, Alan Lamar,

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Speaker 1: I would say and have built very very good teams.

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Speaker 1: Because you watch the Cowboys, they got injuries. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: how many guys are on the sideline for the Niners. Hell,

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Speaker 1: halfway through the game, Deebo's got a seventeenth injury of

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Speaker 1: the season and he's in the blue ten. Didn't even

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Speaker 1: matter to me that score, Like, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was You're on the edge of your seat.

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Speaker 1: Those last couple of minutes not really indicative what we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what's discouraging is for a long time

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Speaker 2: the Niners were fifty percent on third down with a

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Speaker 2: lot of time to play. They had four hundred and

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Speaker 1: They didn't party. Was, like you said, atrocious in the

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Speaker 1: first half, Miss Vase Carrolls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, underneath stuff like layups and beat up. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they have like seven starters out. It's just it's this

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Speaker 1: I off a bye though, you know, with Jerry talking

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Speaker 4: That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean. Mike McCarthy, actually he's not Andy Reid, but

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Speaker 2: he's top five or six coach in the league off

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Speaker 2: a bye, so and they had a very solid first

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Speaker 2: half and then and then again you can only tweak,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean it's just interesting to watch, Like

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Speaker 2: Ricky Pearsol, he got a little run. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: using cowling on punts. They're they're getting a lot of

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Speaker 2: different guys involved, you know, and it's funny in the

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Speaker 2: NFL you're allowed to whift. I mean John Lynch is

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Speaker 2: whiffed on some guys. I mean, you know, he's taken

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Speaker 4: Pick, Gray Terrible. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean less and McVeigh missed on Logan Bruss,

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Speaker 2: people miss all the time. Pete Carroll had hits, he

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Speaker 2: but it's just I just feel San Francisco also the

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Speaker 2: advantage that San Francisco has they're they're better at drafting,

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Speaker 2: always work with Shanahan, like running backs, slot receivers. It's

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Speaker 2: they almost always work because you know, it's like they're

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Speaker 2: like with Andy Reid. I mean, they've missed on some

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Speaker 4: That was Brady in New England.

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Speaker 1: He just did Historically. It was one of the bigger

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Speaker 2: But I feel like with San Francisco, when you when

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Speaker 2: and a GM and a coach relationship that's strong, you

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Speaker 2: kind of know you kind of know where to draft.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the guy George Patten in Denver was

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton. If you look at Sean Payton's history, Mickey

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Speaker 2: Loomis and New Orleans drafting for Sean Payton. He knew

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Speaker 2: certain positions. Dallas, it feels like you just kind of

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Speaker 2: taken the best value in the draft and you're not

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Speaker 2: quite I mean, they've hit on their first round picks,

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith, they had on Zack Martin, do on Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 2: they hit on Michael Parsons. They've been pretty good in

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Speaker 2: the first round, but I don't feel like they find

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Speaker 1: Well, look at that last drive when they get the

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Speaker 1: almost three minutes with a two minute warning. You could

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Speaker 1: just run a normal drive. What do they they can't

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Speaker 1: run the ball? Well, Girndo is the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: He's not their backup running back. He's their third string

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Speaker 1: running back, because I mean, what would they do to

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Speaker 1: have Girndo or Jordan Mason on their team? But they

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Speaker 1: can't run a normal drive because they can't run the ball,

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Speaker 1: game immediately ends. And this gets back to building the team.

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Speaker 1: Like I get where Jerry's like, we didn't have the money,

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry would not have looked like he did on

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Speaker 1: lot of teams all over the NFL. It's not really

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers passing game, you know.

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Speaker 4: No, they're not. They're not a come from behind team necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they tend to get leads because

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Speaker 2: I think they're really schematically ahead of the curve. So

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Speaker 2: I mean when you watch them play, there's just two

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Speaker 2: or three things. I always feel like they always have

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Speaker 2: a good early drive, They always run the football, they

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Speaker 2: almost always have a pass rush, They create turnovers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of really good things that they do.

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Speaker 2: They're not special at quarterback. But in this second half,

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Speaker 2: when you watch perty, you're like, oh, I get it,

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Speaker 2: they moved the pocket. I just I think you have

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Speaker 2: to feel if you're San Francisco tonight thirty twenty four

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Speaker 2: of Dallas, you played a pretty poor first half your

447
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Speaker 2: quarterback was off, You're missing seven to eight key players,

448
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Speaker 2: Deebo gets hurt in the game, and you're like, we won.

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Speaker 2: I mean we got five hundred yards of offense. I

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Speaker 2: think in the end, I mean they lose tonight they're

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Speaker 2: three and five.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it would have been it would have felt like

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Speaker 1: the season and it would have.

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Speaker 2: Been I mean, you would have had to look yourself

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Speaker 2: in and go, do we peel off a guy or

456
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Speaker 2: too at the trade deadline, like we have to get picks.

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Speaker 1: It would have been one of the worst losses I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life of watching this franchise,

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Speaker 1: and for a minute, you're on the edge of your seat,

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Speaker 1: You're like, this isn't really gonna happen. I do think

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Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you have a coach

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Speaker 1: and you have the core of your team that has

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Speaker 1: seen it all good and bad. And that's one thing

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have. I know, they've they've won the two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, but they've also gone through some crazy bad

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Speaker 1: stretches these last couple of years. They're very comfortable in

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Speaker 1: every environment, and the forty nine ers over the course

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Speaker 1: of these last three years have had slow starts I

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Speaker 1: think twenty two. They started three and five, So it's

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Speaker 1: like they are used to some madness for a really,

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Speaker 1: really good team, and they're comfortable in these environments. Now

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Speaker 1: they got some big games. I gotta get guys back.

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Speaker 1: But it all comes down if Perty's playing well, they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to beat anybody. When he plays like

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Speaker 1: he did last week against the Chiefs, they become very

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Speaker 1: average to below quick because their defense, like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's not as dominant in years past, but at any

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Speaker 1: moment they could get an interception, Fredkin forms a fumble.

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Speaker 1: They have like they can be disruptive at a moment's notice,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they get the ball and

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Speaker 1: flip a field like that that they're not as likely

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Speaker 1: to hold you to two hundred yards and those days

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Speaker 1: are done.

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Speaker 2: for Game Day greatest ugly game in the history of

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Washington beats the Bears eighteen to fifteen on

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Speaker 2: a hail Mary. Let me just start with this. Washington

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Speaker 2: was the better team. They were the better coached team.

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Speaker 2: I thought Chicago's offensive coaching at the end of the

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Speaker 2: game was egregiously horrible. Late in the game, and I

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Speaker 2: give me, let me just say, Caleb and his movement

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Speaker 2: and his side arming stuff. You can see the Mahomes comps.

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Speaker 2: He's running around the old lines getting overwhelmed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: first of all, it was nine to nothing at half.

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Speaker 2: Chicago had thirty three yards passing in the first half.

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Speaker 2: I thought the game was over. But Chicago, you know,

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Speaker 2: their defense, you know, kind of kept him in the game.

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Speaker 2: And then Washington's offense stalled. But I got us John

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Speaker 2: the third and goal where the Bears did the fridge perry.

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Speaker 2: The following drive on a third down to win the game.

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Speaker 2: You thought they did a draw, essentially putting in the

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Speaker 2: hands The whole game came down one play, Thank god,

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 4: It was past interference. I didn't get that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they made no attempt.

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Speaker 2: It felt like the third down was just setting up

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Speaker 2: fourth down and they had to have a touchdown to

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Speaker 2: take a lead. So I just couldn't stand Chicago's offensive coaching.

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Speaker 4: And I know it to hail.

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Speaker 2: Mary, but my was Washington was a better team.

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Speaker 1: One could not agree more. There was a stat that

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Speaker 1: popped up, I think in the second half that said

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Speaker 1: he was four of thirteen for thirty six yards. That

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Speaker 1: being Caleb. I thought, on this drive can't be the game,

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Speaker 1: and I had a double check it was the game.

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Speaker 1: Their offense was horrendous, their defense was outstanding. I wrote down,

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Speaker 1: I mean even when it was nine to nothing, it

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Speaker 1: felt I mean twenty eight to nothing. Yeah, complete control.

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Speaker 1: Jayden didn't just look like the best player in the game.

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Speaker 1: He looked like one of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: The thing I wrote down is if you could pick

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Speaker 1: these two coaching staffs, Ibra flus Waldron and Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, the gap is like going from a star

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback to some random backup. You're like, it's not

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Speaker 1: even close. That's why when they take the lead, I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's sports. Crazy things happen. But there haven't been many

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Speaker 1: games this season where a team would have came away

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Speaker 1: with a victory that was like, oh, you didn't. You

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Speaker 1: didn't even come close to call the play to a

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Speaker 1: backup offensive lineman on like I was one years old

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Speaker 1: with the refrigerator Perry plays, but he did it a

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Speaker 1: lot right. It was part of their arsenal. They weren't

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Speaker 1: a good obviously Walter Payton, but they weren't some dynamic offense.

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Speaker 1: You got, you drafted the receiver nine, you got Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: you got DJ Moore. Your running backs are the reason

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Speaker 1: you're in the game. Yes, I mean if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: for Swifts whatever, huge run, oh huge, we wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: have been close. It was like that gave them life

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Speaker 1: because they had none none, They had none to give

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Speaker 1: him that play, even they ended up taking the lead

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Speaker 1: with twenty seconds left. That's I think that has to

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Speaker 1: go down as the most egregious play call of the season.

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Speaker 1: Second would probably be that. Remember that fake play the

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Speaker 1: Bills ran, I think against the Ravens when they were

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Speaker 1: storming that, But that was way worse to get backup

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean, it's not even you can't even

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Speaker 1: blame him. Belichick would say, it's not on the player,

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Speaker 1: it's on the coach. Yeah, you can't call. You can't

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Speaker 1: put that guy in that position, right, It'd be like me, hey, John,

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Speaker 1: make this video edit?

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Speaker 4: Do I what do I do?

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Speaker 1: That was crazy calling. It really was. They got lucky

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Speaker 1: the bounce or something didn't land where the guy did

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Speaker 1: take it to the house. That could have been historic

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Speaker 1: disaster on a given play.

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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, you know, I beat up

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Speaker 2: on defensive coaches. The Bears were off a bye the

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Speaker 2: first half. No clever nothing. They weren't quick to the line,

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Speaker 2: they weren't quick out of the huddle. It was just

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Speaker 2: it was just plotting. There wasn't any energy. And I

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Speaker 2: understand off of bye. You know, you when we watch

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Speaker 2: a McVeigh off a bye or some of these really

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Speaker 2: well coached teams, I mean, and or even Shanahan, you're

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Speaker 2: like Shanahan otens with the Jets. You're like, this is

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Speaker 2: a mismatch. You can see the plays off a bye.

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Speaker 2: It like was a Syriani. It's like you got nothing,

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Speaker 2: you have no you have no design plays. And it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things where in the first half, Jaden

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Speaker 2: Daniels was the best player on the field. I will

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Speaker 2: say Caleb won't show up in the box score, but

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Speaker 2: his ability because I mean Washington's pass rush John, especially

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Speaker 2: in the early portions. I think what happened sometimes Washington's

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Speaker 2: defensive line control the first half. These are three hundred

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Speaker 2: pound guys. I thought they wore down in the fourth

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Speaker 2: and it gave Caleb another second to a maneuver around.

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Speaker 2: They just they're big. They mean these guys like pain.

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Speaker 2: You can't get sixty snaps out of these guys at

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Speaker 2: the same energy level. And I thought Caleb bought time.

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Speaker 2: I thought he made a couple of really really high

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Speaker 2: end throws in the fourth quarter. But John that drive

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Speaker 2: that gave them the lead on third down, This is

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Speaker 2: not a field goal situation you're going to score. They

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Speaker 2: run another quarterback draw and I thought, just after running

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Speaker 2: a previous one, I thought, well, what are we doing

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Speaker 2: here now?

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Speaker 1: First down, they ran a fade into the corner of

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Speaker 1: the end zone, Like, what are you doing to slam

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Speaker 1: the ball in? You run the ball right down the throat.

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Speaker 2: So I just hated the Bears play calling and and

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Speaker 2: not not just because I had Washington as aside, but

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Speaker 2: there are moments in the season where I feel bad

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Speaker 2: for teams where like they outplay, they out scheme, they

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Speaker 2: out and they just they end up on the wrong

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Speaker 2: side of a game. I always kind of root for

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Speaker 2: the team that looks like they put the effort in,

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Speaker 2: they had a plan. I don't like luck wins, but

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Speaker 2: they happen in football, and shit happens. I mean, guys

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Speaker 2: get hurt, you get bad breaks.

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Speaker 1: But I will it happens in all sports. Could have

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Speaker 1: happened last night in the Yankee game, if they would

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Speaker 1: have came back in the ninth inning. It's like they

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Speaker 1: deserved to win that game. It's just that's what we watched.

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Speaker 2: But let's let's let's just say this right now. In

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Speaker 2: terms of entire staff, Washington's gonna have. I think it

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Speaker 2: has a top five to six staff in the league

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Speaker 2: if you're counting both coordinators.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This pass defense was egregiously bad in the first month.

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Speaker 2: Even that's gotten better. It was the worst pass defense

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Speaker 2: for three weeks, so they're coaching.

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Speaker 1: The hell out of that thing. Well, the ross the

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Speaker 1: two rosters a lot of money on their offensive line

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Speaker 1: in Washington and it's actually pretty solid. But the rest

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Speaker 1: of the roster relative to the Bears, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Bears got better wide receivers, they definitely got a

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Speaker 1: way better defense. I mean they got a fantastic secondary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how good does Montes sweat look? I mean, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: you know, Miles Garrett or something. A couple things. I

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Speaker 1: think you give Caleb credit for competitive character because that

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Speaker 1: was a game where he could have just folded like

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Speaker 1: a cheap tent, and he you know, you could tell

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Speaker 1: he was pretty down on the sideline. And then those

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Speaker 1: last couple drives, the second to last one, he made

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Speaker 1: a couple miraculous plays little out Allen iverson juke move

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Speaker 1: of a defensive lineman to keep a play alive, throwing

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Speaker 1: across his body. It looked like like USC last year

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Speaker 1: versus Arizona. Remember when he was just making some of

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Speaker 1: these players, You're like, holy shit, he did that tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Another thing, I think if Chicago could have a do

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Speaker 1: over I'm a huge Roma Dunes fan. He says, going

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Speaker 1: to be an excellent player, he would play for any

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Speaker 1: team in the league. They had an opportunity with a

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Speaker 1: top ten pick, and their offensive line is not good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there were several offensive linemen on the board. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Receivers are sexy. You can

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00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: find wide receivers all over the league. You can trade

647
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: for him in the middle of the season to not

648
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: draft the Penn State guy, the Oregon State guy who

649
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: can play five different positions. Yeah, so everyone, and I

650
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: would imagine, you know, the way the game ending that ended,

651
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: that's going to be the headline. But if it had

652
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: just been a Washington just dominant victory, it would have

653
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: been shitting on Caleb and he did not play well.

654
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: That offensive line was getting worked work, And this was

655
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: my concern, Like, I don't give you. You get credit

656
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: because you've been an underachieving team. So you take care

657
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: of teams like Carolina. That's the first step of like

658
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: becoming good. You got to beat the bad teams. But

659
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't translate when you play better teams. It's why,

660
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: like you watched that first half, you're like this team,

661
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna let a lot of people down in that

662
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: city because they're not gonna be able to play with

663
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: good teams. And it starts with their five offensive linemen.

664
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: Washington is not Joe Gibbs, I would imagine had a

665
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: pretty good defense line. That's not what they're rolling out.

666
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this defensive line. I'm happening to google some

667
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: of these guys. It's really more dan Quinn raw Rock

668
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: coaching these guys up, and they are getting beat like

669
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: a drum on like every other play. So yeah, Caleb,

670
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: obviously you're you're kind of freaking out back there. You

671
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: don't have any time and balls start flying all over

672
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the map. But how many times did he step back

673
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: two seconds later and there's like three guys coming at him.

674
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Well, it's funny.

675
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody this weekend Hardball was either

676
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: going to take Joe Alt or Thomas, the wide receiver

677
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, Mike Thomas the fifth pick. He apparently this

678
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: is what I was told. I mean, he loved Mike Thomas,

679
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: and he's like, we got to protect our asset. We

680
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: got to get Joe Alt and that you know, people

681
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: had Mike Thomas at like fifteenth, twentieth.

682
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Apparently he's good. He had to touchdown today, he plays

683
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: every week.

684
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just And Harball was like, I think Harball

685
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: recruited him, you know, at Michigan could get it and

686
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: so and so unlike the Bears. And the Chargers needed

687
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: to receive much more than the Bears did, and they

688
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: went with Joe Alt because the take was, I gotta

689
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: protect I gotta protect Justin Herbert.

690
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: So I like it.

691
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Remember Harbass said that we view offensive lineman his weapons

692
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: the tip of the spear.

693
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and today it was a classic ugly Chargers win

694
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: where yeah, it was just you know, boy, we'll talk

695
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: about it later. But Jesus Herbert's talented, fricking talented, not

696
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: working with much talented. All right, next game, New England

697
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: beats the Jets twenty five, twenty two, so you know

698
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: it's we could just beat up on Aaron. But I

699
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: mean the field goal. They can't hit a field goal,

700
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: they can't hit a pat But here's here's my bigger takeaway.

701
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: You haven't won since Robert Sola left. And when they

702
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: fired him, I said, you just let your best coach

703
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: leave the room. You just let him leave and the

704
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: defense is not as good, John, They're not as good.

705
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, actually, I mean look at that final drive

706
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: by Brissett.

707
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: He had time to.

708
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: Throw and so in Aaron is a pocket quarterback who

709
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: had seventeen completions and no longer moves. Well, I mean

710
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: they have weapons. They've got Lazard, they've got Garrett Wilson,

711
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: they've got Devonte Adams who had you know, five catches

712
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: fifty yards whatever, four catches fifty yards. But you can't

713
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: say they don't have Breeze Hall. You can't say they

714
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: don't have weapons. But it's actually it's the truth is

715
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: they're not as good defensively. Now, this is this is

716
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: classic Jets. They are now a mediocre defense with a

717
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: forty year old quarterback who's a total pocket quarterback. And

718
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Ian O'Connor had a tweet during this game. He said,

719
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: the Jets talk about energy. They're slow out of the huddle,

720
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: they're slow to the line. He said, they're just applodding, slow,

721
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: energy less offense. Well, that's on Rogers, that's on Aaron

722
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: and so I can I can blame it. But the

723
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Jets had eight penalties, knowing didn't have as many penalties

724
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: in New England's the younger team. I think it's just

725
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: a systems failure. It's just a mass of an organization.

726
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: I think they got so many things going on. One.

727
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: When they fired Sala and they make Olbrick become the

728
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: head coach, you're basically losing out twice. Right, Your defense

729
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get worse because he has to focus on

730
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: other things, and the things he has to focus on,

731
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: he has no clue what he's doing because he's never

732
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: done it. He'd be like, hey, John, we need to

733
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: keep rolling with the podcast and now also be the

734
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: head of sales. We would probably lose out on both.

735
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: The podcasts would get worse and sales might go down.

736
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Why because it makes no sense to put me in

737
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: that position, So you put Olbrich Colin. I don't think

738
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen this in my entire life, high school,

739
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: college or the pros. Going into the second quarter of

740
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: the football game, the Jets had zero timeouts. They used

741
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: all of their timeouts in the first quarter, and it

742
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: was offensively. I mean, I don't know how many delay

743
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: of games they had. They literally had a delay of

744
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: game when they scored the final touchdown to take the

745
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: lead in the game on the two point conversion. On

746
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: the two point conversion, So Olbrik's gonna take a lot

747
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: of shit. I can't blame him for the delay of games.

748
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: He has nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers try offense nothing,

749
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely nothing. Now, in fairness to Aaron, they

750
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: go down to get they score, not in a million years.

751
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: And I'm rooting for this Jets collapse because it's pretty fun.

752
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: I never thought Jacoby perssecond lead him down the field

753
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: and score a touchdown, even how bad the Jets defense

754
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: has played the last couple of weeks since Robert Sli

755
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: has left. That was that was jarring to watch that.

756
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: And now I think we have to acknowledge their defense,

757
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: which has been held to highest team, is just it's

758
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: not only ever, it's just not good at all.

759
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

760
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: And this notion that like you can just have a

761
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: team full of mercenaries, We've learned over the last five

762
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: six years it doesn't even work in the NBA, which

763
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: is much more individual meets team. It one hundred percent

764
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: over the history of football, you can sign a big

765
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: name guy who shows up in OTA's income, they're just

766
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: The Reddick thing is a classic example of Drew Rosenhouse

767
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: when they signed him, was quoted of saying, yeah, I

768
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: just went right to the owner, like, how is that normal?

769
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, in a situation, so your GM is useless

770
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: this guy, you basically give him all. And then I

771
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: even saw to day He's like, yeah, it's pretty rusty.

772
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Of course he's rusty. I mean he showed up three

773
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: days ago. I mean, this team is really an embarrassment

774
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: to football, and it's something that Listen. I'm not trying

775
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: to give myself credit or anyone that bet against him,

776
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it would be this bad obviously

777
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: today is I mean, this is one of the lowest

778
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: points for any high priced team of my lifetime. I mean,

779
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: to be two and six Colin, well, right, you've played

780
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: what you've played eight games, so you got nine games left.

781
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: To get to nine games, you'd have to go seven

782
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: and two down the stretch. This seems like they can't

783
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: be the Patriots. They're not going seven and two. They'd

784
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: be lucky to go like five and four.

785
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and you know, as I watched that game,

786
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: whereas I mean we both said this, I thought the

787
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: Bears were a poorly coached s show. Today it's the

788
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: Bears have talent. New England doesn't have much.

789
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: I mean the Jets.

790
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: The Jets have of the twenty two starters would probably

791
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: have seventeen sixteen to seventeen starters of these two teams.

792
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Patriots were missing a bunch of guys today too. On

793
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: the they were sure.

794
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: So, I mean, it is hold on. I'm getting texts here.

795
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: It's just as we do the podcast.

796
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm getting a text from a general manager in the

797
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: league that says he cannot believe.

798
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: What he saw with the Bears.

799
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: It was great.

800
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, it's great. I wish I could share

801
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: this with the audience. I'm getting a text in real

802
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: time here on. I mean, everybody's going to talk about this.

803
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: It was the worst code. Okay, let's let's stay on

804
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: task here. So yeah, I think the question becomes does

805
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: Aaron come back? Does Aaron say to himself, this isn't

806
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: going to work. Aaron tends to get into his manifesting

807
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: vision board, you know, the darns saying when he used that,

808
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: you know, that optimistic kind of metaphor this week or word.

809
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: I think he would come back. But if you're the Jets,

810
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: you have to draft a quarterback. You have to draft

811
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback because the roster doesn't have a ton of eats.

812
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: You have to go get a quarterback. And it's a

813
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: bad quarterback class.

814
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: You know. One thing with these YouTube TV four boxes,

815
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you have a game right above each other. And

816
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I had the Packer game right below the or above

817
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the Jets game. And Jordan loves who got hurt again.

818
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's been pretty banged up this season.

819
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: But what a job by Lafloor. But his mannerisms are

820
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: just like a young prime Rogers. The way he moves,

821
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: the way he just flings it and lets his arm go,

822
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: and you're watching him just throw some of these balls,

823
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: and he can be a little ratic with is such

824
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: confidence to those guys, And then you look down and

825
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: one thing I wrote down is Rogers used to throw

826
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: with such confidence in the prime of his career, and

827
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: then even those couple of years when he really got

828
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: a roll to the floor. And you watch him now,

829
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: like we have to acknowledge he no longer can move.

830
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: He's getting peppered. Okay, he's forty years old coming off

831
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: of Achilles, understandable. I feel like he just throws these

832
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: lollipops like sometimes you see with Caleb, like he doesn't

833
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: really know where it's going. Rogers never really played like that.

834
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: It was either thrown it away or thrown a dart

835
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: to a guy and hitting him in the hand. And

836
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: now these balls go up into traffic like, well, I

837
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: can't move to save this. I gotta get rid of it.

838
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Fuck it. Well, I mean what it's the Jets, I

839
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: mean what, Yeah, it feels like he's as loosey goosey

840
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: because you've been on him as much as by far

841
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: anybody that talks about, you know, football, that he really

842
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: is sneaky, like kind of hides from risk taking. It's

843
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: not really his thing. And now it's like he just

844
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of lets it go all over the place. So

845
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: they have gone all in on this player who is

846
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if Pete Rogers was a ninety

847
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: eight out of one hundred, the guy they're getting now

848
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: is like seventy or something on good series. And he

849
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: can look sometimes like a fifty and sometimes the ball

850
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: just flies up. You're like, that could be a disaster.

851
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: And that was never his thing, ever, his thing. So

852
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: they got this player who is no longer good enough,

853
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: like he's not a top ten quarterback in the end.

854
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: No, God, no, no.

855
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like when last year and even coming

856
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: back into this year, it's like, hey, if we get

857
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: a guy between like eight to twelve and be really good,

858
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: like he's floating like he's I mean, look it is

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Speaker 1: at all these really talent. I'm watching Josh Allenday like

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Speaker 1: he's in a different y versus Aaron.

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Speaker 2: Baker, Mayfield and Sam Darnold this moment.

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Speaker 1: Are better than wagers for sure, much better, better player.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys are better players.

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Speaker 2: Texans beat the Colts twenty three to twenty. It's not

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Speaker 2: an overly sexy game. I have so many notes on

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Speaker 2: this game. So Chris Ballard is built. It's a good roster.

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Speaker 2: Just offensive players. Jonathan Taylor, Stud Pittman, Josh Downs, workable

884
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Speaker 2: tight ends with Shane Steinken. He cannot get close to

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00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: completing fifty percent of his throws. His judgment's horrific. He

886
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Speaker 2: is totally big play reliant.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching that game today. He left. I think it

888
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 4: was the third quarter. I wrote it down.

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Speaker 2: He left the game, he said afterwards, I was just tired,

890
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Like I'm sitting there watching this and they have players.

891
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: This team had opportunities to beat the Texans. They have dudes.

892
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: I know it's I mean, CJ. Stroud's going twenty five

893
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: to thirty seven, three hundred yards dominates time of possession.

894
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: The Colts can't sustain drives with Anthony Richardson. They were

895
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: horrific on third John there are to I knew he

896
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Speaker 2: was young coming in, but the bottom line.

897
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Speaker 4: Is he is so far behind that.

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00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: If you stay with it, maybe two to three years

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Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson to be able to go to the line,

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Speaker 2: audible to third play scan the field.

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Speaker 4: I watched him.

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00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: He's a great athlete, jump he can You cannot win

903
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Speaker 2: in this league. That's a bad division. You can't win

904
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Speaker 2: in this league. They have players in indianappol like today.

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Speaker 2: I watched the game, and with young quarterbacks, I always

906
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: feel like, let's give him Thanksgiving of the second.

907
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: Year unless he makes. Unless he makes.

908
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Speaker 2: I mean, you watch Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams, they're

909
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: self awareness in these bone next today is chopping it up.

910
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: This kid is not even in the stratosphere of those

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Speaker 2: guys in self awareness pocket awareness. It was jawdropping how

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00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: bad he was today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was two or thirteen in the first half

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Speaker 1: and the only, I mean one of the passes was

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Speaker 1: a blown coverage for a touchdown where the guy was

916
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Speaker 1: wide open, and even when the ball left his hand,

917
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Speaker 1: you're fifty to fifty in the air if it's gonna

918
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Speaker 1: hit the guy. He's an horrendous football player, and let's

919
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: face it, when he came back from injury, they chose,

920
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Speaker 1: we have to see if this guy's gonna be good

921
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Speaker 1: enough to let's development over making the playoffs. Joe Flacco

922
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Speaker 1: plays out this season like they're gonna win nine ten

923
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Speaker 1: games and be in the playoffs. They could barely beat

924
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: Miami last week with Huntley and Tim Boyle, I mean

925
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: barely won that game. And it's because of the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Every time I looked up today, he looked

927
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Speaker 1: like Walter Payton out there jukend guys breaking tackles.

928
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Speaker 4: Nobody even here.

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Speaker 1: First CJ Cowd NonStop.

930
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Speaker 4: You can't bring down Jonathan Taylor on the first hit, can't.

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Speaker 1: They were peppering CJ. Stroud today. So their defense, which

932
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Speaker 1: you know, most people don't think is the most talented,

933
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Speaker 1: and people are very critical. August Bradley was I think

934
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Speaker 1: I read today hit him on like twenty nine or

935
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Speaker 1: thirty something drop. I mean they were hitting him constantly,

936
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Speaker 1: and they're right in the game and this guy just can't.

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Speaker 1: You cannot function as an NFL quarterback. Like to be

938
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Speaker 1: a great quarterback, you have to be able to do

939
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Speaker 1: it all. But just to play quarterback, you have to

940
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Speaker 1: be able to hit a wheel route, you have to

941
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Speaker 1: be able to hit a quick out route, you have

942
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Speaker 1: to be able to run the plays when they are working,

943
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Speaker 1: and he cannot. And you get to a point where

944
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Speaker 1: you know, for up until Josh Allen, most people thought

945
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Speaker 1: it was impossible to improve accuracy. That's why most people

946
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Speaker 1: wouldn't touch you if you were an inaccurate quarterback. Like really,

947
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Speaker 1: one of the only examples in like NFL history is

948
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Speaker 1: like Warren Moon, who got dramatically more accurate as he got,

949
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Speaker 1: but he was an complete outlier. And then Josh Allen, like,

950
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Speaker 1: I'm pro just in generle in life, take a big swing,

951
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: totally understood Anthony Richardson. But there's a huge risk reward

952
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Speaker 1: in that. Like this isn't like invested in the apple,

953
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Speaker 1: Like this is invested in something that could go belly

954
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Speaker 1: up or five hundred x. And right now you are

955
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Speaker 1: staring bankruptcy in the face because you can't play. Obviously,

956
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Speaker 1: the Texans are a playoff team. But you're you're playing

957
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Speaker 1: shitty teams like Miami and getting by by the skin

958
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Speaker 1: of your teeth because this guy can't complete basic routes.

959
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Speaker 1: Everyone likes the high character guy works hard at the

960
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: highest level of pro sports. It's like, well, there gets

961
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Speaker 1: to a point where all that stuff, Okay, we're rooting for,

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Speaker 1: but are you good enough? And he's not even remotely

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Speaker 1: close to like average on basic things. Yea, the most

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Speaker 1: inaccurate quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Oh, listen, it is t Bow just didn't have the

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Speaker 2: arm strength or the mechanics. This kid's got arm strength plus.

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Speaker 2: And you know the other thing that you have to

968
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Speaker 2: think about. Remember when the Niners moved off.

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Speaker 1: Tree, what do you do, Colin? I mean they drafted

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Speaker 1: them fourth overall. Yeah, betjum and just go to Flacco

971
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Speaker 1: and try to win games. I want to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's what you have to do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would, and they can go in a six

974
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Speaker 2: game winning streak with Flacco. There's no question they have players.

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Speaker 1: They would have won to day probably.

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Speaker 2: But it's when when Kyle Shanahan moved off Trey Lance,

977
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Speaker 2: You're like, wow, Kyle made Matt shab a pro bowler.

978
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Speaker 4: So if Kyle gives up on you, you.

979
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Speaker 2: Don't give up a fourth round pick for Trey Lance

980
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: unless you're the Cowboys. When Shane Steichen and these weapons,

981
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: I mean two of thirteen, these are the scripted plays

982
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: with one of the smartest coaches in the league in

983
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: Shane Steichen, who we saw him with a rookie Justin Herbert.

984
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: We saw him make Jalen Hurtz, who has regressed into

985
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: an m VP level player. So I think you just

986
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: have to say, listen, we're just gonna go. We're just

987
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: gonna roll with Flacco and go. Because I wouldn't be

988
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: shocked if Flacco won five out of six games, I

989
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked. I like the Colts weapons, downs, Pittman, Taylor.

990
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: I like their players.

991
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Well up until probably five or six years ago, a

992
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: guy like Anthony Richardson, based on his small, small collegiate

993
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: history and inaccuracies, would not have sniffed the first round.

994
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we entered this quarterback inflation post mahomes in

995
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, where everyone thinks like those guys are both

996
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: like once in a generation players. Yeah, if I'm never

997
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: been a big believer in you know, and I think

998
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: we saw like the Kenny Picketts and Mac Jones versions

999
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: are the worst case, Like they don't even have the

1000
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: physical skills and they're clearly not good enough the physical skills.

1001
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he says, I was exhausted. Well, no shit,

1002
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: they have to run you because they can't pass because

1003
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: when they passed, they got a punt. And I think

1004
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: we all acknowledge, like this guy's a really good coach

1005
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: and he's proven it now with countless different type quarterbacks.

1006
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: Like this is not a coaching thing, this is a

1007
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: basic Like some guys in basketball just can't shoot. They

1008
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: get with every coach under the sun, and that's ever

1009
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to shoot. Yeah, he could the best

1010
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: shooting coach in the history of the league. Nothing would change.

1011
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's the more you watch this kid play,

1012
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: You're like he would be inaccurate for the next ten years.

1013
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: But how much longer is he going to get to play?

1014
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Because you could pull the trigger right now and go

1015
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: to Flacco Monday morning and just say, hey, we're gonna

1016
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a breather, buddy.

1017
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Cam New, we struggle struggled with mechanics

1018
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Speaker 2: in accuracy, but Cam would have Cam would have a

1019
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: twenty three of thirty three game. I mean Cam's when

1020
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: Cam cleaned his mechanics up and threw off his back

1021
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: foot because he could get a little sloppy Cam. Cam

1022
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: had beautiful, a beautiful looking posture mechanics.

1023
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Speaker 4: He got loose.

1024
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: Hell Stafford can get loose, Mahomes gets loose. But it

1025
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: was always within Cam to be a.

1026
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: Beautiful thrower the football.

1027
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Speaker 2: Like with Anthony, it's just again the layups he misses badly.

1028
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah to me, Cam, when you look at that Auburn season,

1029
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: even though it was only one year, like kind of

1030
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: knows how to win. Yeah, Like he just knew how

1031
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: to get shit done. And then over a course of

1032
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years, once the team in Carolina got better,

1033
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: they were just obviously they were up and down because

1034
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: he was a roller coaster ride. But when he was

1035
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: on it was clear like this is a top five quarterback.

1036
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Then he could turn into like the thirteenth best. He

1037
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: was all over the map, but his high end, like

1038
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: you don't even really see that with the Anthony Rigson.

1039
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: Beside one give and throw, the other thing is Cam

1040
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: was a way more dominant runner I mean, Cam's the

1041
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: most physical runner in the history of the NFL. Yeah,

1042
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean he was just bigger and stronger and played

1043
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: more powerful and he didn't break down early. I mean,

1044
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: this guy, every time he goes down, You're like, is

1045
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: he gonna get back up? Like right now, Bryce Young

1046
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: is obviously has a chance to be a historic bust.

1047
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: He's probably not going to be on the Panthers next year.

1048
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if this guy is that far away.

1049
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: He's just bigger, stronger, faster, right, I mean they're they're

1050
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of similar, Like, what the hell's the difference of

1051
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: the two. Well, one guy plays actually in a better organization,

1052
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: one that when other functional quarterbacks come into play Minshew

1053
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: and Flacco, they win. Yeah, so you could argue that

1054
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: there's really he's just bigger. He's a bigger, stronger, throws

1055
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: harder version of Bryce Young.

1056
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: I thought Philadelphia Eagles thirty seven, Bengals seventeen. I was

1057
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of this one. Bengals had no

1058
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: run game, and first of all, I thought this was

1059
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: about as important a Philadelphia win the way they won

1060
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: no turnovers. Saquon ran fifty percent on third down seven

1061
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: yards of play, nearly hurts again ten rushes, sixteen to

1062
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: twenty touchdown, no mistakes. This was a game very easily

1063
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: against Burrow. Burrow's a very good first quarter quarterback. Eagles

1064
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: are not a good first quarter offense. This is a

1065
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: game he could have gotten behind and it could have unraveled.

1066
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: But as I watched this game, I had two big takeaways. Philadelphia,

1067
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Speaker 2: it feels like, to me, John, you're a former scout

1068
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: for the team and you have good context there. It

1069
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Speaker 2: feels like they're asking Jalen to do less in the

1070
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: passing game. They've just come to terms with We're not

1071
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: throwing at thirty eight times. That's not what we're gonna be.

1072
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: We're not gonna do that, and that's fine.

1073
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 4: I think. I think the.

1074
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Houston Texans sometimes without Nico Collins, kind of feel like

1075
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna box in what we

1076
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: can do offensively.

1077
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: Let's not put our young quarterback at risk. That was

1078
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: my first take. My second take is.

1079
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: We've always both of us have felt like Herbert doesn't

1080
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 2: have the support he deserves. But Herbert, now they've paid

1081
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: for Khalil Mack. I mean, they they've paid for Jim Harbaugh.

1082
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: They've paid Herbert, They're gonna pay Rashawn Slater. They paid Keenan,

1083
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 2: they paid my Mike Williams. The Chargers have spent money

1084
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert. He's had some bad breaks. But we

1085
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: can't call the Chargers cheap anymore. Sinnati team they let

1086
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: go of mixing, which, by the way, even even very

1087
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 2: good quarterbacks need run games, right like even the good

1088
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: ones need run games. They've already moved off defensive players

1089
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: a year before they're gonna pay pay Jamar Chase.

1090
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: And I just on the team next year. Yep.

1091
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: And I watched Cincinnati and I thought, you know, we

1092
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: can say what we want about the Chargers, but they

1093
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: have damn good players. They moved off Keenan and Mike

1094
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: Williams because they were older receivers that couldn't stay healthy consistently.

1095
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: They kept Mosa, they kept Khalil Matt Those are expensive players.

1096
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: They paid Herbert, They're gonna pay Slater, they paid Hardbaugh.

1097
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Joe Burrow. I think the Bengals

1098
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: are what the Charger's reputation was like.

1099
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 4: They won't spend the money.

1100
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow has. You take Burrow and Chase and that

1101
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: pass rusher off his team, John. They don't have a

1102
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: lot of players in Cincinnati. They don't have a lot

1103
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: of dudes.

1104
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say this if they fired

1105
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: their coach tomorrow or at the end of the season.

1106
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: He's not getting rehired. So they have a coach that

1107
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: no one else would want if we just play that

1108
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: game with most good teams, right, the Eagles have such

1109
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: a good roster because you would say they fire Sirianni,

1110
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: no one's hiring them.

1111
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: That's true.

1112
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: But like I do think their coach. Once you have

1113
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: less talent, you have to lean on them a little more.

1114
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Like why are the Chargers gonna end up winning ten

1115
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: or eleven games? Star quarterback, star coach. Yeah, it's not

1116
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: because they have a roster like they have. I would

1117
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: say for a lot of the last twenty years. Joe

1118
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: did miss the throw a little bit short today that

1119
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: led to the interception and this snowball right then they

1120
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: got a touchdown, then they fumbled the kick off and

1121
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: it just snowballs and the Eagles ate them alive. To me,

1122
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: there was a talent gap today overall on the team.

1123
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, pretty clear. I do think the Eagles,

1124
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: and this gets ties into the Giants, who will see

1125
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: Monday Night, Saquan's elevated their team. He's clearly one of

1126
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: the best players in the league. Jalen throws as pretty

1127
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: I would say, wouldn't you say Jalen is like the

1128
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen version of Russell Wilson in terms of that

1129
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: deep ball in the air. You think it's going to

1130
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: be completed to one of those two guys.

1131
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: No, and we've come to realize there are limitations to

1132
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, and once he loses sort of the magical elusiveness,

1133
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: you get what you can get out of Russell. I

1134
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: think we elevated because of Steichen. We elevated Jalen hurts

1135
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: to a level that's unfair. He was a second round pick.

1136
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: He's not a great pocket thrower. I think he throws

1137
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: a pretty deep ball. I think the Russell Wilson cops

1138
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 2: very accurate. One's a second round pick, one's a third

1139
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: round pick. And I think I think Philadelphia, it's easy

1140
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: to fall in love with a player because he was

1141
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: so damn good with steiking. But since he's left and

1142
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: this is your reality, you know, today was the classic

1143
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: sixteen to twenty some runs. I think they just kept

1144
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 2: the game in front of Jalen Hurts.

1145
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: He's definitely running it a little bit more, and he

1146
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: is a fan. To me, he's a better runner because

1147
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: of his power than even Pek Russell, who was a

1148
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: really good runner as well. I mean, he's got to

1149
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: be one of the more powerful running quarterbacks we've ever seen.

1150
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: He turns into a running back. And then once you

1151
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: get to the goal line, I mean, we've never seen

1152
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: a playlight. I've been watching football for thirty plus years.

1153
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they get to the one or two yard line,

1154
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: it's like an automatic touchdown. There's nothing you can do.

1155
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: When have we ever seen that? Even if you stop

1156
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: it once, they go right back to it and then

1157
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: they score. Yeah. I mean they've had some injuries on

1158
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line, so he was running around a little bit.

1159
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: But do I totally trust their defense, not but their talent.

1160
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you get aj Brown, DeVante Saquan him, you'll

1161
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: end up getting god her back. Like how many Lions

1162
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: and the fully healthy forty nine ers. I mean there's

1163
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: a short list. I watched the Chiefs, like, do they

1164
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: have one guy that would start on that team beside

1165
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: like of their skill guys, you know, even Travis Kelsey

1166
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: when he's now thirty five. If god HER's healthy, so

1167
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: you're just it is a special and Saquon clearly has

1168
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: this chip of proving himself and he's healthy. I mean

1169
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: he today he ran a guy over you get him

1170
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: in the open field. They've had good you know, the

1171
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift used to be their running back. They've had

1172
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders in the past, They've never had anything like this.

1173
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: This feels a little bit like remember when Jalen was

1174
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley. It's like, this feels like

1175
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: a collegiate offense. And the one thing that I think

1176
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: slows him down sometimes the coaching staff can kind of

1177
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: get a little tricky, and Jalen, you know, sometimes wants

1178
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: to prove he can be a pocket guy and get

1179
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: himself in a little bit trouble. But I thought that

1180
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: second half, that's the best half of football the Eagles

1181
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: have played. It feels like in two years. No.

1182
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: I literally sat there and I want my takeaway was,

1183
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: if you took the best twenty two players in this game,

1184
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: Philly's got seventeen to eighteen of those twenty two players

1185
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: like the talent gap. But again, Philadelphia spends money. Jeffrey Lurie,

1186
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: he'll spend money on anything, weight room, everything. I mean,

1187
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati doesn't have an outdoor practice facility. Still, they're the

1188
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: only Northern team that doesn't.

1189
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: You know what I wonder is like, let's say the bit.

1190
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals end up six or seven wins, right,

1191
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: obviously they're in a tough spot. Now they fired the coach,

1192
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Like what peers he fishing off to go get his

1193
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: head coach? Historically it's Taylor's There weren't a lot of

1194
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: people lined up for him, and he's cheap, like he's

1195
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: not talking to the very bulls, to the Belichicks, to

1196
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, the big name guys. That's just not where

1197
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna go. So when you sign up, this goes

1198
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: back to Carson Palmer, like this organization, Like a lot

1199
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: of the complaints haven't just been entitled athletes bitching and moaning.

1200
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: This is this is, this shouldn't be this way, And

1201
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: you have to wonder, like what hell it took Dean Spanos,

1202
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: who's down in LA around the Dodgers and Lakers a

1203
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: long time to go Okay, I need a fifteen million

1204
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: dollar coach yep. And he wants to bring his three

1205
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: four million dollar defensive coordinator. We'll do that too. It's

1206
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: gonna be the best thing he's ever done, because I mean, eventually,

1207
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: if they I trust, they'll build the thing up, they'll

1208
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: they they'll be in a super Bowl in three years. Yep.

1209
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: And they would not have been hiring these four or

1210
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: five million dollar coaches. And I listen, you can't tell

1211
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: me would Joe. I thought for most of the game

1212
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: like I was like, God, Joe looks good, and people

1213
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be lined up. But they're also not taking the

1214
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: job for six million dollars. That's right, you're telling me

1215
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: Belichick wouldn't be interested in coaching Joe Burrow. I don't

1216
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: think he would be. I jut if the organization paid

1217
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: and they would listen to him. But they're not gonna change.

1218
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they kept Marvin Lewis forever. I don't think

1219
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 2: they'll fire Zach Taylor because the Brown family won't pay

1220
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: a dead cap coach money.

1221
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: They won't pay it.

1222
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: They just refuse to pay it. It's time for this

1223
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: week's player. I thought might give almost almost anything to

1224
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: redo his game. Brought to you by Uber Eats, Anthony

1225
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: Richardson disaster ten for thirty two in a loss to

1226
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: the Texans. A pick a fumble left the game.

1227
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: At one point.

1228
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: He said he was tired. Every game this season, Richardson

1229
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: has failed to complete fifty percent.

1230
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 4: Of his throws. That was this week's Uber eats Player.

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Speaker 4: Order now.

1235
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: And I want to PI to this game Denver twenty eight,

1236
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: Carolina fourteen. Denver's now five and three. So here's a

1237
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: prime example of coaching. One team has Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase,

1238
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: elite pass rusher. One team has bon Nicks, Courtland Sutton

1239
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: and no elite pass rushers. Now Patrick's certain, Patrick Sartan.

1240
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: I wrote this down today. He may be a top

1241
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: ten defensive player in the league. He is just absolutely

1242
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: phenomenal good. But this is what coaching does. With Sean

1243
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: Payton Boone Nicks today who in his last game, I

1244
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: text Sean, I said, man, his mechanics are off. Sean's like, hey,

1245
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: the kid's great. We're gonna get it. Cleaned up three touchdowns,

1246
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: no picks, two hundred eighty yards, nine different wide receivers,

1247
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: tight end targets, only one penalty. When I was watching

1248
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: the game, there may have been more, but when I

1249
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: wrote it down, only one penalty. They were tremendous on

1250
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: third down. No Carolina, I get it. Denver was picked

1251
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: to win five games by Vegas. They're at five and

1252
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: three halfway through the season. They are coaching the you

1253
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: know what out of this team, John, This is the

1254
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: defensive personnel. Remember, because of Russell Wilson, they didn't have

1255
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: any draft picks. They got the LS kid out of Utah.

1256
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: I think third round. They got Franklin, the wide receiver

1257
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: who dropped the ball right through his hands today, a

1258
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: deep ball. And I don't even think bo Nix would

1259
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: be this good, and he struggled in the first month,

1260
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: but I watched him today backfoot confidence this. If you

1261
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: think we're being hard on Zach Taylor, Denver is squeezing

1262
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: every ounce of juice. You tell me how they're generating

1263
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: this pass rush. You tell me how bo Nix is

1264
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: thrown for three hundred yards behind kind of an okay

1265
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: offensive line. I watched Denver and I think that is coaching.

1266
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 4: That is coaching. That's what I see.

1267
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I mean I don't

1268
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: think Denver's roster is very good. I also think I

1269
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: think Vance Joseph last year when they scored what Miami

1270
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: scored seventy on him, Yeah, and Sean Payton stuck with him,

1271
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: and by the end of the season they were playing

1272
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: good defense. Their defense. Like you said, beside the corner,

1273
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: you have to google some of the guys the team. Yeah,

1274
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: this is not Neil Smith and Bill Romanowski that You're like, oh,

1275
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: these I don't even know who these guys are, and

1276
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: now we're gonna find out a lot more about him.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday night playing that New Orleans team a week ago,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was kind of a joke squad. And

1279
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't eve think bo Nix was that good in

1280
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: that game. The Ravens and the Chiefs coming up. But hell,

1281
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: they don't have to win those games. If you get

1282
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: to nine to eight with this roster and a rookie quarterback,

1283
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: what a great building spot. Now, this is the thing

1284
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: with hiring good coaches, Like look at Lafloor. He's six

1285
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: and two at a starting quarterback in and out of

1286
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: the lineup, completely unfaced. You're gonna look up. I don't

1287
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: know how many games Jordan Love who knows how long

1288
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: he's out. They're gonna be an eleven twelve win team

1289
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: no matter what. The power of that position in this

1290
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: sport flies by everything else. Is it Aaron Boone's fault

1291
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: that Aaron Judge has no clue what's coming out of

1292
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: the pitcher's hand. There's nothing he can do right where

1293
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: in coaching you watch in college last night, Texas A

1294
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: and M has been one of the biggest jokes in

1295
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: college football the last couple of years, and you watch

1296
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: them now, you're like, Holy hell, this looks like Alabama

1297
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: or something. And it's because it's not even just about

1298
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: the play calling. It's about the messaging. It's about the structure,

1299
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: it's about the discipline. It's about basic things like you know,

1300
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: how you practice the first ten minutes of warm ups,

1301
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: what is okay and what is not okay? If you

1302
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: come out with the wrong stuff, do I make you

1303
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: go back in and change or do I let it slide?

1304
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: And I think you just see the separating you see.

1305
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: The Jets are a good example. They got no clue

1306
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's one of the worst coaching staffs

1307
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: in the league.

1308
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: It is the staff.

1309
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: And then you look. I think Denver and the Chargers

1310
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: are very, very good examples. They have no business. You

1311
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: could say the Chargers a little bit because they do

1312
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: have a good quarterback, you know, an experienced quarterback to

1313
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: win ten games with their roster. If I give half

1314
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: the coaches in the NFL, those teams, they don't sniff

1315
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: ten wins, right, But I give Jim Harbaugh and Sean Payton,

1316
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: and what do they make a combined thirty five million dollars?

1317
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: They make it for a reason because you're gonna feel

1318
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: pretty good about them winning double digit games every year

1319
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: going forward. And the other thing that we don't talk

1320
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot about with coaches, who do you hire your staff?

1321
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: It's one of the Harboff families great attributes. I would

1322
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton for the most part, has always had

1323
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: good coaching staffs. Yes, Dan Campbell was assistant. Dennis Holland's

1324
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: not a good head coach, but he's an excellent defensive coordinator,

1325
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: so he had a staff. And now, listen, I was

1326
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: skeptical of Vance Joseph. You gotta give him a lot

1327
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: of credit. Like their defense is flying around. So that's

1328
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: your job is more than just calling plays or the draft,

1329
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: like it encompasses a lot.

1330
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're the other thing. This is one of

1331
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: the things Sean mcvaye does so well. You are you're

1332
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: often asking yourself, how did Cooper Cup and Cooka Nakua

1333
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: get so open? Well that scheme. I mean, it's like

1334
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl and Andy Reid has sky More

1335
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: in the red zone wide open. You're like, there's only

1336
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: so much space. How is sky More not covered at

1337
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: the twelve? I'm watching Denver and there were multiple times

1338
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: today You're like, now again it's Carolina. But I'm seeing

1339
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: this time and time again when they beat the Jets,

1340
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: we thought it was a fluke. No, Denver is better

1341
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: with Bo Nicks. They're a better football team than the

1342
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: Jets with Aaron Rodgers, and the Jets have significantly better

1343
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: players overall.

1344
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: No, not even close.

1345
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm just watching Denver today and I'm like,

1346
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: this is like and I've text Peyton a couple of times, like,

1347
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: this is what a well coached team looks like. They

1348
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: should have beaten Carolina badly. They did they should have

1349
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: beaten New Orleans badly. They did, but they're also winning

1350
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: this That Jets game you look at and you think, God,

1351
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: it was terrible weather. Bow Knicks had no There's no

1352
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: reason in the world Bo Nicks goes and plays cross

1353
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: country if I recall, their travel was bad and beats

1354
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in a like a semi tropical storm. Peyton

1355
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: won't get Coach of the Year, but he should be

1356
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: honorable mention because I think what he's doing with this

1357
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: roster is incredible.

1358
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you just see so many examples of

1359
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: guys that like as sometimes they might inherit some talent

1360
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: and then as time goes on. I think Mike McDaniel

1361
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: is a good example. Listen, he's got a lot of

1362
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: friends in the media. I think I don't know him personally,

1363
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: but I just think his teams have been one of

1364
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: the most overrated squads over the last couple of years.

1365
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: And now you watch him today lose to Arizona. They're soft,

1366
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and they really have been down the stretch

1367
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: of the last last year when they should have cruised

1368
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: to that division championship right in the AFCs. Then you

1369
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: watch them this year I'm not blaming them for poor

1370
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: offense when TWA gets the concussion, but the whole team

1371
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: just falls apart. And then you get him back and

1372
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: they look dramatically better. Like Mike McDaniel like, yeah, you

1373
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: can scheme up some good plays, but can he be

1374
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: a good head coach, And to me, the answer is no,

1375
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be terrible. And then you look around

1376
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: the league at some of these other guys, like like Demiko,

1377
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: he's got injuries, he's got all sorts of shit going,

1378
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: his quarterback's not playing well. And then you just look

1379
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: up there's like, yeah, they're gonna be like twelve five

1380
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: like you just some guys just really know what they're doing.

1381
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: And because like when times get tough, Tom Win's a

1382
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: good example of this, the standard in which you make

1383
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: guys practice every day has to be really fit. It's

1384
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: really easy now to just another walk through. You don't

1385
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: need to do pads today, Like that's just not allowed

1386
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: certain places. And then that translates to these games, because

1387
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the games you play in the NFL

1388
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be pretty tightly contested in the second half.

1389
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: This is not college football where you look up and

1390
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: it's thirty to ten in half the games. That's not

1391
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: the way the NFL works.

1392
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: And even the morning.

1393
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: You look at the slate this morning when I when

1394
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: I turn on the TV, he's at ten o'clock. I'm like,

1395
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: it's a shitty slate. Halfway through it's like, ah, that's

1396
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: pretty entertaining.

1397
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 4: Okay, great stuff.

1398
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout three and out. I'll tell

1399
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: you the Chicago Bears, there is gonna be stories written

1400
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: for the next two weeks on that coaching mess. Yes,

1401
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: you say they should have won. I say, I can't

1402
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: believe it was that. I've never been happier. I root

1403
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: for better coaching. Chicago's coaching was a disaster today. Go

1404
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: back and listen to the first ten to fifteen minutes

1405
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: of this podcast and check that out.

1406
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: John, we'll talk soon.

1407
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: You see the ratings on the old Yankees Dodgers. There's

1408
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: like fourteen million people watching these games.

1409
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: Sixteen and a half million watched Game two, the last

1410
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: two or three innings, sixteen and a half.

1411
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 4: Let's talk about that for a second. So for years.

1412
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: People have said to me, I would say, about twelve

1413
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: years ago, I just stopped baseball. I just said I'll

1414
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: talk about it in October. And a lot of that

1415
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: was I was getting more and more information from ESPN

1416
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 2: and Fox on minute to minute ratings and cable you

1417
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: can get minute to minute ratings, and what you were

1418
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: finding out is that. And I've just poured over these

1419
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: ratings every day for years and years. This is what

1420
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: you found out. The audience rewards you when you talk

1421
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: two things, urgency, the games have to matter and stars. Well,

1422
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: there's no urgency in baseball until October, like none, and

1423
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: the sport doesn't have a bunch of stars. And then

1424
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: Otani goes to the Dodgers, Aaron Judge, Yankees start, you know,

1425
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: get to the World Series and Mookie Betts and Bryce Harper.

1426
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: Now you got about four guys who you can just

1427
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: put on the screen and people go, oh, that's Mookie Betts,

1428
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's show. Heyo, Tani, I'm watching that game. I

1429
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: don't remember a world I grew up with the Reds

1430
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: Red Sox in nineteen seventy six, Bench Rose, Morgan, Perez,

1431
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: Carlton Fisk, you know, like like like you go back.

1432
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: I can remember the names now. Yeah, but I'm looking

1433
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: at that game and I'm thinking Jesus, there's seven Hall

1434
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: of Famers here. Now Judge is having a terrible World Series.

1435
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: And I had said before the series, I think shoe

1436
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: Hey is the best player in the series. I think

1437
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts is actually the second best player. Is versatility, shortstop,

1438
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: second base, outfielder, speed, average power. But it proves once again,

1439
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: the consumer is always right. The consumer was telling you

1440
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: for years, we're just not that interested in Alabama. Georgia

1441
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: college football dipped for about a six year eight year stretch.

1442
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: It got too regional. The audience said, we're fatigued with

1443
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Alabama Clemson. Now college football ratings are going up. Alabama

1444
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: doesn't dominate. George's not quite as good. Here comes Texas,

1445
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: Here comes Ohio State, Here comes Oregon. The audience tells

1446
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: you what to do as a talk show host. And

1447
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: I watched the National League Playoffs the Dodgers Padres, and

1448
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's like, there's like eight great players here, Dodgers.

1449
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: Metts, Phillies, Mett's Phillies great.

1450
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: And it's like, so sixteen and a half million people,

1451
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: that's that'll beat some NFL games. And it's like, yes,

1452
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: we'll talk baseball. You have to give US urgency. I've

1453
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: argued for years, I'd cut the I'd cut out April in.

1454
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 4: Half a May.

1455
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 2: I'd have one hundred and twenty games. I'd get rid

1456
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: of forty. I'd start the playoffs August eighth, and by

1457
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: Labor Day you'd be heading to the World Series, playing

1458
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: in the same weather you did for the entire series,

1459
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: instead of night game in October November. So I just

1460
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: think the series has been you can't take your eyes

1461
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: off it.

1462
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: No, it's it's riveting theater, I do think, And it

1463
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: really hit me last night watching Judge, who looks like

1464
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: you know me, and Little League or something. Right now,

1465
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: it's the only sport where the you know, the guy

1466
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: that has the best season, you could argue the best

1467
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: player in the American League this year, he's gonna win

1468
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,839
Speaker 1: the MVP. Can you know even Russell Westbrook or Lamar Jackson,

1469
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: guys that have had bad playoffs, They have bad games,

1470
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: but they are not completely useless. When you can't hit

1471
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: like that, I mean he could barely make content. You're

1472
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: just useless. Remember a Rod had some moments when he

1473
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: was on the Yankees. When he got there, You're like, ah,

1474
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna move him down in the lineup. You're just

1475
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: you're just worthless. And to me that's even more riveting.

1476
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: It's like, is this guy gonna get it? Can this

1477
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: guy even get back to the ball? And to me

1478
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: that I just think we've obviously haven't seen this matchup

1479
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: since when like nineteen eighty one, So it's part of it.

1480
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, you said the Alabama Georgia thing, you felt

1481
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: if we got Dodgers Yankee seven years in a row,

1482
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't quite feel as cool.

1483
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: That's right.

1484
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: We've been We've been feels like we've been waiting for

1485
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: this thing for a decade because both these two teams

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Speaker 1: have been so good. I think Yankees are in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I mean clearly. I mean they've lost some nozety there.

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Speaker 1: Guys can't run. That's the thing with the Dodgers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Showyotani's six foot five, he runs like he's justin Jefferson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mookie Betts is an NFL athlete. Stam can't run, but

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Speaker 1: he hits home runs. But if he's not hitting on

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: runs and just didn't they got no shot?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean Tommy Edmond, who's that guy?

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: He's incredible. Where do they find that guy.

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: He was the National League MVP. In Game one he

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: hit eighth. I mean people talk about the Big Red

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01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: Machine was the greatest offense in seventy five, but by

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: the time he got to, like the seventh in the

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01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: batting order, it was Dave Concepcion. And says our Geronimo,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have the last three guys couldn't hit.

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: When you have guys like I mean, like Will Smith

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: and Tommy Edmund, he's like, these guys are on fire.

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 2: They run, they can hit for power. That the Dodgers lineup.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was really interesting in Game one when

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Speaker 2: Aaron Boone and I thought to him myself, this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a bullpen series, especially for the Dodgers.

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a bullpen series. So you know, keep.

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Speaker 2: Yamamoto in or a Flaherty as long as you can

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Speaker 2: because you're gonna You're gonna just test your bullpen. Dodgers,

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 2: don't cross your fingers on Walker. Bueller gives you five innings.

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 2: But the Yankees they have better starting pitching, you could argue.

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: And when Aaron Boone pulled Garrett Cole after eighty eight pitches,

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Aaron, you have like seven elite hitters in

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: this lineup. If you have to go to a second

1515
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: and a third bullpen guy, you're in big trouble until

1516
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: you face the Dodgers lineup. It's I mean you and I.

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: I watch it because it's in the summer. I just

1518
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 2: keep baseball games are on in the house. The Dodgers

1519
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: have had forty different pitchers and they're in the World Series.

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: What does that tell you about their lineup? Forty different pitchers.

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01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: I know that Bruce Bochi wouldn't need his third stint

1522
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: before he pulled out wear a cole in that moment,

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: and he's the best postseason manager of the last twenty

1524
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: five years. That that's I get that. You know, the

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: front office that's insane, that really is, And that to

1526
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: me is the deterioration of baseball. Like when I was

1527
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: a kid in the nineties, base ball is huge. Their

1528
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: star players weren't just Kann Griffey and Barry Bonds. They

1529
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: were the pitchers. Yes, you know, because those guys on

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: any given moment could go one hundred and thirty pitches

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: complete game and he had eighty eight. It's not like

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: it's one thing. It's like, well, we didn't want to

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: push him past one ten eighty eight pitches and he

1534
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: was mowing people down, mowing that That's that's insane. Even

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01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: last night with Otani's buddy from Japan, what they pull

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: him with like eighty five, Like what are we doing here?

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: What's this is the World Series? This isn't this isn't August.

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: But well, that's the sport.

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: And I would argue, at least with the Yankees, Judge

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: isn't hitting, and the in the middle, the back part

1541
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: of their lineup isn't as scary.

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: No, they're in trouble.

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jazz Chisholm's not hitting. So but you you look

1544
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: down to the Dodgers and you get into I mean

1545
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: Max Munsey got on base twelve straight times. I said,

1546
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: you don't see that in Williamsport twelve straight times in

1547
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in northern California. I hate

1549
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Lakers, and right now Anthony Davis

1550
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: looks like wil Chamberlain and the Dodgers looking like they're

1551
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: about to sweep the Yankees. This is my worst nightmare.

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Speaker 4: John Middlecoff, great stuff, Bud, see if.

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Speaker 1: The volume.

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