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Speaker 1: at Brian Bruman has News.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: You maybe traveling back in your EV you're getting that

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Speaker 1: range anxiety or you're getting a little stressed out. Am

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Speaker 1: I going to make it to the next charging station? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the truth. Your anxiety is not helping. Your anxiety

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Speaker 1: will not get you there any faster. You need to

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Speaker 1: try to take deep breaths, stay home and try to

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Speaker 1: reduce your anxiety. And one of the best ways to

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Speaker 1: do that is to join one of the great broadcasters

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Speaker 1: of our generation, Mark Thompson. I didn't know where that

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Speaker 1: was going, right, how about that? I was like, how

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Speaker 1: do I make this intro?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know what you're interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying talking about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm ready to serve. I'm really to bring

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Speaker 3: blood pressure down. That's what you do, Yes, well, I

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Speaker 3: thank you for that. I wasn't aware of that even

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Speaker 3: being the result of anything I've done, but I will

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Speaker 3: tell you.

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Speaker 5: That it's a delight to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: You always sound good and you're you really are one

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Speaker 3: of those great versatile talents. I've said this before, just

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Speaker 3: a terrific broadcasters show.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're wonderful. I had somebody else say that, say

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Speaker 1: something a little bit different. They said, I was a

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Speaker 1: what was the what was the term that they used there, Eric.

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Speaker 5: Was third sandwich?

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Speaker 3: Sand Well, let me finish for a third sandwhich is

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Speaker 3: what I was going to say.

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Speaker 5: You're a great broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I look, it comes with the territory. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you raised the flag, not everybody salutes. That's all

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: There's so much go This is one of those interesting

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Speaker 3: facts that Memorial Day is a troubled holiday. Just even

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Speaker 3: calling it a holiday connote sort of some uh festive

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Speaker 3: or relaxing thing, which, let's face it, you know, we

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Speaker 3: can say what we want about it, but at its

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Speaker 3: roots it's a solemn holiday. But really what everybody does

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Speaker 3: on a Memorial Day is they attend barbecues, and you

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Speaker 3: know this, Many go to cemeteries and observe with the

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Speaker 3: solemnity that the day deserves or demands, But many also,

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Speaker 3: and I would say most go to a bunch of

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Speaker 3: events that have nothing to do with really recognizing those

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Speaker 3: who are are the fallen heroes, you know. So it's

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Speaker 3: just it's as though the day has to be reconstituted

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Speaker 3: somehow so that we can play this seriousness of it

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Speaker 3: and somehow draw the curtain between that and the celebratory

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Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so well how do we how do we honor

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Speaker 1: those that have fallen while celebrating their contributions to our freedom.

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Speaker 3: It's the commercialism that always makes me, of course, and

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Speaker 3: that's the part that really does mean. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 3: it's moorial day sales. It's just that's just it's tone

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Speaker 3: deaf in a way that you could have a you know,

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Speaker 3: we honor those who have made this most intense sacrifice

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Speaker 3: by having you know, fifty percent off pizza all weekend,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's just not it's not cool.

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Speaker 3: So I don't mean to dwell on it, but it

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Speaker 3: just is always odd. So even when somebody says have

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Speaker 3: a good Memorial Day weekend. Yeah, I mean, I get

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Speaker 3: what you're saying. But and the other thing that makes

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Speaker 3: it hard is that it's the unofficial start of summer

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Speaker 3: and so summer travel and these things again that have

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with honoring the memories of those who

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Speaker 3: have made this supreme sacrifice.

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Speaker 5: So it's just.

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Speaker 3: A mix of all of these things that really have

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with each other, and you can lose

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Speaker 3: the true solemnity of the day, the true seriousness of

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Speaker 3: the day can be lost in all that. So, yeah, boy,

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Speaker 3: you're you're gonna have a just a dynamite program. I'm

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Speaker 3: a real downer, I'm a real bounder. I'm going pure

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Speaker 3: solemn today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I don't have any range anxiety anymore though,

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Speaker 1: I've just forgotten all that.

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Speaker 3: You know, Ford just made this deal with Tesla, as

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Speaker 3: you know, to use their charging stations.

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Speaker 5: It's a real breakthrough for Ford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because one of the problems with evs is that

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Speaker 3: you can't find a dependable network.

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Speaker 5: Now Tesla has a dependable network.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's maintained by Tesla, and you even if

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Speaker 3: you drive at Tesla tells you how many of these

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Speaker 3: stalls are open.

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Speaker 5: And et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Even it'll tell you how much of a percentage charge

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Speaker 3: you'll have left by the time you get to the

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Speaker 3: charging station. But that said, if you are on just

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Speaker 3: a basic charger, you don't have that. Even if you're

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Speaker 3: driving a Mercedes or driving whatever else, they don't have. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're hoping. So this is pretty big for Ford and

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Speaker 3: I think this is the beginning of working this network

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Speaker 3: out so that people who want to make that transition

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Speaker 3: to electric vehicles you just have less of what you're

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Speaker 3: talking about, which is range anxiety.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is going to be a huge

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Speaker 1: deal for Tesla too, oh because you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is they can they can license this out. This

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Speaker 1: is like, this is kind of like when IBM started,

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Speaker 1: you know, licensing out their their hardware and other people

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Speaker 1: just started making PCs, but IBM was getting the cut

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Speaker 1: of all those people.

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Speaker 3: Which a great parallel because they've essentially established the technology

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Speaker 3: and now you're just bringing people onto your network.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, they get a big piece of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huge deal. All right, Mark Thompson, you got more.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I just gonna say the uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the founder of the Magic Castle has passed away.

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Speaker 3: And we're going to talk to a distinguished magician about

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Speaker 3: the Magic Castle's history and about Milt Larsen who passes

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Speaker 3: away at ninety two.

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Speaker 1: That Little Mermaid and more. Let's get started. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it time, all right, Chris, Thank you, Mark, Thanks buddy.

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Speaker 1: Mark Thompson is in for Tim Conway. Good friends, and

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Speaker 1: it's always great to hear Mark. I in on that one.

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Speaker 1: I thought we just hit some of the rest of

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Speaker 1: the story, that rush of the stories, some of the

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Speaker 1: stories they didn't necessarily fall neatly into the rest of

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Speaker 1: the program. Happened to cross this one. The FBI has

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Speaker 1: drop some files from forty years ago that maybe you

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Speaker 1: didn't know about, including there was a plot to kill

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Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth when she was visiting the United States. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she faced potential assassination back in nineteen eighty three. Cash

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Speaker 1: of one hundred and three pages were posted the FBI's

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Speaker 1: online record site. The files cover preparations for several trips

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Speaker 1: the late queen made to the United States, including a

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Speaker 1: tour of the West Coast with her husband, Prince Philip.

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Speaker 1: There was a dude from San Francisco that said, he

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Speaker 1: excuse me, He said that his daughter had been killed

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Speaker 1: in Northern Iowan by a rubber bullet, and he then

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Speaker 1: claimed that he was going to attempt to harm Queen

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth and would do this either by dropping some object

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Speaker 1: off the Golden gate Bridge onto the Royal Yacht Britannia

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Speaker 1: when it sales underneath, or would attempt to kill Mean

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth when she visited Yosemite National Park. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're up to snuff on history. It didn't

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Speaker 1: happen just the same FBI thwarted that forty years ago. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we're just now finding out he was playing the long game.

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Speaker 1: You finally got her this year, but it was a

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Speaker 1: long game. And if you know anayor do well, some

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Speaker 1: of you may keep some pretty rotten company. I know

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Speaker 1: my wife keeps rotten company. Every night she finds herself

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Speaker 1: in bed with a pretty rotten fella. The FBI has

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Speaker 1: upped their offering if you can offer up information that

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Speaker 1: leads to the arrest of one of their ten most

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Speaker 1: wanted fugitives. The reward for trying to turn in an

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Speaker 1: FBI Most wanted was one hundred thousand dollars. Now the

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Speaker 1: reward is going up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if one of their ten most

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Speaker 1: wanted is, like you know, l Choppo's kids, any worth it?

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Speaker 1: Noay man, no way. But if one of their ten

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Speaker 1: most wanted is you know, some some a horrible kidnapper,

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Speaker 1: murderer that's on the lamb and you can turn them in, oh,

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Speaker 1: totally worth it. It'd be worth it for the one

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Speaker 1: hundred grand. I mean, it would be worth it for

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Speaker 1: the goodness and the good will and the karma that

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Speaker 1: it would bring you. But let's face it, a quarter

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Speaker 1: mill didn't hurt either. So now the FBI is really

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Speaker 1: stepping things up a little bit. Thanks FBI, you really

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Speaker 1: made it worth my while to be a rat. Appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: all right. Mark Thompson is up next. It's been a

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Speaker 1: pleasure spending a Memorial Day with you. Hopefully you give

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Speaker 1: it the solemnity as Mark lakes to saying that it deserves,

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Speaker 1: while also celebrating the freedoms that have been enshrined because

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Speaker 1: of the sacrifices that are made. Have a great Memorial Day,

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. Mark Thompson Next, Chris Merrill in

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Speaker 1: for John and MK. I am six forty Live everywhere

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