WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 13 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:12.360 It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:16.400 Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.920 guy who successfully had Michael Strahan going into space before 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:27.800 Kim Kardashian became a lawyer, J P. Jack Rack. You 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.520 heard it here first, it came true. Welcome in. It's 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:35.360 Jaguars Happy Hour. On a Monday afternoon busy program. As usual, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.760 CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, joining us pride of 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.360 the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli, will review Week fourteen 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.680 Titans twenty Jaguars nothing. Urban Meyer taking some heat again 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:53.160 after some weekend reports offense was shut out in the game, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.320 the defense fault the best they could. Draft talk begins. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.720 Because the Jaguars has been officially a liminated from the postseason, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.280 social media questions will go around the NFL. In Week 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.080 four teen, Let's review the Titans over the Jaguars twenty 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.440 to nothing, the Jaguars second five game losing streak of 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.920 the season. The jack shut out for the first time 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.560 since two thousand nine, held under two hundred yards for 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.160 the third time this season and now in back to 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.119 back games, and the worst part of it a franchise 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.199 record low eight rushing yards on a franchise record low 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.479 eight rushing attempts, seven of those by running backs. This 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.199 performance after the weekend report by Tom Pallisero of NFL 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.039 Media of discontent and tension boiling over the coaches, players, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.000 and head coach Urban Meyer, and then Urban after the 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.120 game on his conversations with owner Shot Khan and Urban's 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.440 belief on getting this turned around. I assured him that 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.120 we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.160 you know, that depends on Once again, I still think 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.400 there's good pieces you watch, don't you watch out there 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.360 today Myles Jack and that defense and some of those kids. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.200 Uh Roy smoot, I mean I was those guys are 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.880 playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.000 on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:18.440 So what's the answer. Start leaking information or some nonsense. Now, No, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.560 that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.560 I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.960 I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No, 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.480 let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.600 position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.359 said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.840 very little my time. And if if there is a source, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:49.800 that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds. If there's 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.840 some source that's doing it, that's Urban Meyer yesterday, Tony 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.000 Boselli and Pete Prisco with us now here on Jaguars 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.200 Happy Hour, Good afternoon, Tony, good afternoon. Well they're is 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.919 a source to be clear, I mean, let's be clear. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.440 I mean, and I appreciate what Urban said, but Tom 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.000 pal Sero is a national writer that's pretty well respected. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.320 And Jason locking For which I know everyone can't stand 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.920 in Jacksonville, but popular guy, but is also we're so 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.360 Tom Pella Serlo with the NFL dot Com, Jason locking 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:27.400 For with CBS Sports, which is Pete's company, UM employer. Like, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:32.480 these are respectable guys that typically and I'll let Pete 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.000 speak to this, don't report stuff unless they have confirmed 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.160 sources in a building. So it's either coming from the 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.840 building or it's coming through an agent that got it 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.680 from their client in the building. So there's sources. I mean, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.720 there's I mean, now Urban has said the whole thing 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.320 is not true about the Marvin Jones. He said that 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.560 today again in his press conference. Um, and I'm not 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.960 here to say who's right, who's wrong, who's telling the truth. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.840 I mean, I'm just telling you what's out there is 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.920 and so he's denying it. Tom Pella Sero doubled down. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.640 The bottom line is this, in my opinion, like this 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:15.320 thing is not working right now. I mean you are. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.680 You're regressing as an offense, your first overall pick is 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.680 regressing as a player. You have scored nine points a 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.600 games since the Bay. You have talked about wanting to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.080 rush the ball and you ran it eight times. They 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.120 had six rushes JP and I don't because I heard 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.160 Urban today and I disagree with them. Well, the game 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:36.840 gets out of hand, No, no, no, no, it was 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.440 a ten nothing game in the middle of the third 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.880 quarter and you would run the ball six times. That 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.640 doesn't line up. And so, I mean, those are the 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.760 things that are going on. We'll talk about it all today. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.640 But it's uh, there's not a lot of happiness in 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.800 Paradise right now. Pete Prisco, good afternoon to you. What 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.880 is up? Look, their journalists they don't stuff up, They're 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.680 not making it up. Um, I mean, look, I just 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.719 happened to look back at a tweet in August and 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.040 from the ten ten xcel account. I just found it. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.880 It said Pete Prisco is hearing players aren't thrilled with 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.680 urban Meyer. I mean that was a long time ago. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.480 I didn't make it up, okay, And to say that 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.640 journalists or whoever make it up is ridiculous. Your your 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.679 reputation is on the line. There's stuff there. There's plenty 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.880 of stuff, and I've mentioned some of it on here. Okay. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.040 We we've mentioned plenty of it on here. I've mentioned 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.440 plenty of it on CBS Sports HQ. Over the last 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.839 four months, there have been incidences, there have been issues, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.159 players griping, moan and grown it. Okay, that's happened. For 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.360 him to say he's not concerned about it, Okay, maybe 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.800 he isn't. That's the same as Tom Coughlin used to 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.400 say he wasn't concerned about any of it, and then 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.839 he can complain about all of it. They of course 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.719 they're concerned about it. Um, that's it's the way of life. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.719 It is. And I've had many of talk with coaches. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.760 I said this to him, I go, why would you 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.320 care so much about it. Why And a lot of 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.360 it is, you know, their reputation. I get it, but 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.880 it's not made up. Let's be real. It's not made up. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.400 So how can you prove it's made up? You can't. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.560 If you go ask Marvin Jones if it's if he 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.040 had that incident an issue with Urban, what's he gonna say? Yes, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.760 I did, then Urban's lion. No I didn't. Then Pallasaro 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.960 like it looks bad. So I just I think there's 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:38.440 where there's smoke, there's fire, there's it's a situation in Jacksonville. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.160 You can't deny that. And Urban, if he was truthful, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.839 he would know that he knows that there's nothing warm 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.200 and fuzzy with him and his coaches and his players. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.080 It just isn't now. Whether he can fix that, who knows. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.039 Who knows, And whether Sean Khan wants him to fix it, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.480 we don't know. Maybe he does, Maybe he thinks he 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.880 can fix it, maybe he thinks he can change him. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.080 But like this much, I know Trevor Lawrence is rotting 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.239 away before our eyes, and I think it's up to Trevor. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.120 This is something that I think which should be should 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:16.040 happen Trevor Lawrence, who is the franchise. He is the friend. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:20.520 It's not Urban Meyer. It's Trevor Lawrence. He's the franchise. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.720 And if there eroting his skills and letting all his 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.120 talent rot away, then or then he needs to go 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.320 to shot Kan and his agent. They need to go 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.440 to shot Con and they need to sit down and say, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.600 you know what, this isn't working. If they want him out, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.720 then that's on them. We don't decide who gets fired. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.960 We don't. That's not our job. Our job is to 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.960 evaluate it and on the outside looking in, and I'm 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.040 not in every meeting, and neither is Tony or neither 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.440 of you j P. It's just not working. It's a disaster. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.440 There's no other way to describe it. And here's the 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.360 worst thing about it. I've been around that team since 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.720 nineteen nine for and even Ben before that, when Wayne 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.160 Weaver was the owner in Touchdown Jacksonville. I was the 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.560 first guy was around those people all my life. I 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.680 was around Tom Coughin day in and day out. He 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.200 was an obsession of mine. And I've been around that 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.240 building for a long time and I know that fan 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.800 base and everybody mocks the fan base, which is a 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.280 joke because there's a passionate fan base there, you know, nationally, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.280 Oh there's a who goes to their games. Let me, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.440 you guys know, and the generation that's now, they're now, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.560 they're die hard fans. They grew up with it. They 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.800 didn't sleep and go to school when they lost the 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.920 championship game in ninety nine. They're passionate as hell and 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.200 they care. And I never have ever seen it this 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.439 bad among the fan base ever, in the worst years 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.640 they've ever had, It's never been this bad. And that's 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.000 the problem because I think the tickets are not gonna 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.640 get sold, and that's when you have a problem. They're 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.640 the most distrustled I've ever seen him. And you guys 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.360 live in town now. I don't, but I talked to 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.760 a lot of people, and I read a lot of stuff, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.920 and I hear a lot of things. This is the 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.760 worst the fan base has ever been. And it's unfair 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.000 to them because now there's a reputation out there, Oh well, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.520 they won't go buy tickets. It's a bad fan base. No, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.240 it's not. It's a great fan base. It's a young 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.880 fan base. The Foo Foo wanted cheese crowd that went 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.280 in the nineties, they're gone. But now it's a die 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:19.240 hard fan base and they need to be heard and 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.920 if they want changes, I think that the people need 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.360 to pay attention. That's Pete Prisco, CBS Sports. Well, I 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:33.040 mean it's it's frustrating. It's frustrating for all sides. Absolutely frustrating. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.840 The frustrated. Sure, the coaches are frustrated, the players are frustrated. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.600 I mean Urban said something I agree with, like when 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.480 you lose, it's it's it's maddening you put this much 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.199 time and effort in Like he's right, but right now 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.280 I tend to agree with Pete. Where they're smoked, there's fire. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.480 There's a lot of a lot of chirping going on, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.080 and there's some sources. There are there's somebody in the 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.120 building that is feeding the It's probably more than one, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.959 because typically you're not going to write something that um 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:10.720 explicit without confirment sources and what extent it happened to, 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.480 I don't know. I'm not here. I just know this. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.200 You are two and eleven. Your offense is atrocious. They 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.000 scored zero. You have no no identity. I can't tell 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.400 you what you're trying to do the fact that we 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.400 ran the ball eight times last day yesterday is unacceptable 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.960 in my opinion. It's unacceptable. You have a struggling quarterback, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.199 you have a offensive receiving corps that struggles to get 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.520 open by themselves one on one or two. You're have 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.120 an offensive line who's struggling in the passing game right now, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.320 but you have to run the ball. And they did not. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.559 They didn't do it, they didn't try to do it. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.120 The run game is a is something that where you 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.360 have to be committed to it and understand as long 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.640 as you're within you know, shout and distance and ten nothing. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.280 You're in shouting distance in the middle of the third 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.080 quarter because your defense is playing good football, like you 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.080 can trust them, you have to be running it and 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.600 you have to be okay with three yards, two yards 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.800 maybe no game, Hey I'll bust a five, get an eight, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.720 like you have to keep going and you're like, it's 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.439 okay to run on second and ten when your defense 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.800 is playing the way they were. But having eight carries 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.480 in a game that was ten nothing in the middle 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.360 of the third that's just not very good. It's not 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.320 well thought out. And that's my struggle. That's where you 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.240 start getting frustrated. And I think we're the fan base 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.079 and you watched the game and I call the games. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.160 It's like, what are we doing, what's the game plan, 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.240 what's your identity? What are we trying to do to 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:48.320 help six? And it's been this JP. I've been consistent 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:49.680 with this from the first day when we threw it 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.120 fifty one times against Houston. I thought it was absolutely 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.400 ridiculous that your best player, James Robinson, and you're not 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.280 feeding them and working through him. And they've yet to 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.959 do it. And we went through the carries a couple 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.400 weeks ago. I don't think they have a great plan. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.079 I don't understand it. I don't know what they're trying 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.880 to do. All right, here's a question for you both. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.080 Can they can urban and can the coaching staff and 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.000 players pull something together in the final month. We haven't 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.800 seen much of that lately. Honestly, there's no evidence that 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:26.560 tells me they can when they can do it. There's 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.520 no evidence. Offensively, they're they're going back, they've been, they're 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:36.040 getting worse, and and the defense actually played well and 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.920 hard on Sunday, so that's a good sign. And here's 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.040 the thing, Pete, Like, I know what Joe Cole wants 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.600 to do. Like this is who they are. They're gonna 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.640 try to play good run defense. They're gonna blitz the 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.679 you know what out of you, and they're gonna try 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.720 to pressure the quarterback with more than four because they 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.440 can't do it for consistently. So he's gonna come after you. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.800 He's gonna bring the Nickel blitz. He's gonna bring Race 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.960 Shawan Jenkins down. He's gonna come after you. He's druin 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.400 Mike scrape with Will said, he's in a blitz, Miles. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.760 I mean he's coming at you like I know, and 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.160 like he is. They've been consistently saying that all years. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.079 And are they perfect? No, but but are they are 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.440 they good enough? Like you give up twenty points in 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.040 this league and you're getting up ten at the middle 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.679 of the third quarter, you should be in it. And 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.440 Urban said it, and I agree with Urban than that, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.679 And so at least I know what they're trying to do. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.120 And I think they're gonna keep on fighting. And I 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.040 give Urban and his coaching staff because you have to 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.679 give him credit if you're gonna also criticize another areas 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:35.440 they are playing hard on defense. Still they're they're attacking, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.960 they're trying things, and their special teams are good. They're 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.319 atrocious an offense, they're atrocious. I no other way to say. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.520 And here's the other thing about about this whole thing. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.760 You know, we're you know, we're not gonna when you 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.480 sit here and say, okay, what are the solutions? Is 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.000 it the change coordinators? Is the fire of the offensive 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.520 staff as they get rid of this guy, get rid 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.640 of that guy. Let's just say, for the sake of 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.240 the argument, that urban Meyer came back for next year 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:07.559 and the offensive staff didn't. That's gonna cost you a 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.920 boatload of money to replace that offensive staff. If those 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.200 guys don't get jobs, you have to pay them. And 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.679 then if they do get jobs, you're gonna to pay 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.880 the offsets. So you're gonna cost it's gonna cost you 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.679 a boatload of money to replace the top staff. And 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.440 here's the other thing. Who's gonna want to come work there? 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.360 Well that but Pete, that's a great one, and we 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.160 want to talk about that later, Pete, because you bring 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:28.720 him a great point there. And I'm sorry to cut 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.200 you off, but I can tell JP's look at the 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.280 clock and we're about yeah, he's looking at the clock. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:40.080 Because like, let's just take what we've all the noise 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.960 that's come out here and by the way, it's been 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.520 coming out of here since October. If this isn't like 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.880 all of a sudden breaking news, I mean you've heard 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.880 the murmuring and the like questions and the controversy and 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.680 national media get and let me tell you and Pete 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.840 correct me if I'm wrong. The way national media gets 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.240 off is either a relationship with the coach, relationship with 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.480 the players are direct from there, but more times than not, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.760 it's through the agents. Because the relationship to the agents, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.080 the players, the coach talk to the agents and they 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.320 go the agents are going to the national media. My wrong, Pete, Well, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.640 a lot of time and you can get it from 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.040 the agent. But you're right about what you said earlier. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.280 If if Tom Pel Sarah got it from an agent, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.280 then he could cross check it with another agent. If 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.600 you have two or three and the agent says, yeah, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.400 my guys, really frustrating there. This is what happened. Yes, 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.520 it happened. You got validation and you got a story 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.760 that's exactly where a lot of it comes from, but 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.560 you're also hearing it from leaking inside. Look, I don't 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:44.120 want to hear the league. Look, but Pete, my point 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.800 is that, and I want to I want to unpack 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.320 this a little bit because I do what Pete saying. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.880 And again, who knows what's gonna happen. They have four 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.920 games left. They got the Texans this week. We should 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.360 talk about them, like like, it feels low right now, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.400 you get swept by the Texans, will feel a whole 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:05.160 new low here. Yeah, it could. But here's the thing. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.040 Let's fast forward to the off season and if there 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.040 is going to be if Urban Meyer makes wholesale changes 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.760 because it's just not working well. Now you have a 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.440 perception issue. And I talked to coaches around the league 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.800 and I know you Pete does too, is and they 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.040 all talk that's a small community and like that like 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.800 that starts like a brush fryer starts, you know, burning 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.120 is Okay, Now Urban's gotta go get a brand new 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.360 staff and where do they come from? And now now 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.760 with that, he has relationships guy like Dan Bullen, and 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.760 IM like, I'm not and I'm not saying Daryl Belves 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.840 giving fired. I'm just saying, these are the things that 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.800 all the noise, and then you get the free agencies 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.600 you're trying to get to recruit guys to coming a 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.400 lot and so it's a lot why this is bad 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.960 and why I hate this for the organization. And while 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.560 this you need to find a way to win. Like 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.640 winning cures everything I said all the time. It's like 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.880 a good gravy on a bad piece of meat makes 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.640 everything better. Is you have to win because you've got 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.680 to quiet this stuff down because it will carry into 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.080 the off season. It will impact you for next year. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.399 All right, guys, let's take our first time out plenty 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.720 on that ahead. Pete Prisco will have a chance, of course, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.840 to jump in on that one. We'll talk a little 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:24.240 bit more about the offense yesterday the offensive line had 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.200 some issues in past protection. Tony you said, do you 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.120 think yeah, okay um. And then in the second hour 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.080 we'll get your social media questions. We'll go around the 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.480 National Football League. Plenty ahead, We're just getting started. It's 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.679 Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:51.720 Jaguars Digital Network. You got to give up on the 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:57.440 run of the road. Good questions, good questions, What is 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.280 there gonna answer, Oh, I would say we're probably did. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.199 What happens You get down a little bit, you get frustrated, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.720 and you're there's a play caller, you get stuck in 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:12.320 second or fourteen second and ten eight carries for zero 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.600 young or whatever eight yards or something like that. So 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.120 but we we have to establish the late records going 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.000 on ten one now, so you know there's still you 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.800 still run them all on that one. N Sure. That's 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.080 head coach Urban Meyer today and welcome back. It's Jaguars 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.399 Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after it's twenty to 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.240 nothing lost to the Tennessee Titans for the Jaguars in 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.879 Week fourteen. The Jags are now two and eleven and 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.359 on their second five game losing skin of the season. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.280 J P. Shadrick Tony Biselli here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.800 down in South Florida, reacting to the game and everything 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.359 around it. And there you have the answer on the 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.520 running game, Tony, that you brought up a moment ago. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.840 Eight carries, eight yards, seven carries by running back. He 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:08.440 really didn't, he really didn't answer. It was that Gary Smith. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.320 That Gary Smith. Yeah, if he doesn't flippidly say, how 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.439 about a good answer? He doesn't even answer the question. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.000 That's part of that. What bothers me about that is 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:28.680 there's no passion back. If you would asked Tom calf 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:33.320 In that question the exact same situation, Oh my god, 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:39.399 the reaction you would have got from that, it's just okay, fine, good. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.880 I mean, he don't show me something, you know, that's 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.960 I want to see some burning passion for the game. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.320 It's a It's like when he walked off the field Sunday, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.920 what was that he looked lost? That was a powerful 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.920 handshake with Mike Rabel. Oh my god, you have thought 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.160 they were They never then each other before. I met 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.359 the man for fifteen minutes and I got a better 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:09.760 handshake than that. Give me a break. I just maybe 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.000 that's what I want to see more of it. At 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:19.359 least show me some care. I want to passion. Get 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.760 angry at somebody in that press conference, because clearly they 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.159 were trying to was that today that happened today? Right? 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.160 They were trying to get a rise out of him. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.560 It's almost like I've seen this playoff before. By the way, 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.640 there's a wounded animal and the vultures starts circling if 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.120 the animal wasn't wounded. The vultures don't circle unless you're 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.480 a true vulture, then you eat anything. But you see, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.960 don't you see that happening. That's like it's like a 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.760 it's like the vultures are starting to circle now. But 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.639 part of the problem is, and for whatever reason, and 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.240 maybe this is the advice the Urbans getting. He does 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:03.880 not give clear concise answers. They're vague there. I don't 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:09.120 know there, I have to ask an assistant coach, which 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.960 we then find out that might not be the truth, 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:12.879 that it might have been his decision. I mean, based 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.800 on the reports, and so I think you're seeing the 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.080 media basically saying I think fans and in general people 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.040 are saying, wait a second, like we want a straight answer, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.280 because I think that's been part of the problem is 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.840 and maybe that's the advice he's getting. I don't know 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.360 urban Meyer. I've literally had two conversations with the man. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.639 I didn't follow him closely outside of knowing he was 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.440 super successful um at herb at uh at Ohio State 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.440 and uh Florida obviously, but I mean I've never watched 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.840 press conference before. Maybe this is his style. Maybe this 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.520 is what he's been told to do, but it's not 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:50.320 building confidence. And I think you're seeing people like wait 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.760 a second, no, no no, no, like hey, wait, what's the answer. 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:57.280 It's like today talking about young players and guys getting 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.000 more playing time. The questions about Cisco, Yes, and the 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.920 question is like why isn't he playing more? In Urbans 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.880 it is always doing better. We're getting in more time. Yeah, 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.560 we're getting it more involved. Well, he had zero snaps 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.280 on defense. It's not consistent. He had seen special teams. 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.760 That's right, No, absolutely, but the question defense and the es. 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.920 But the question was in Urban said he's doing a 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.360 great job on special teams and everyone said, yes, that's great. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.160 He had to punch out the fumble. They didn't get 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.400 called doing a great job. That's awesome. The question follow 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.440 up questions like when's he gonna get on what about defense? Well, 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.399 we're getting it more involved. He's been more involved. So 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.679 that's my point is saying this is a lot of 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.000