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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a

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Speaker 1: guy who successfully had Michael Strahan going into space before

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian became a lawyer, J P. Jack Rack. You

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Speaker 1: heard it here first, it came true. Welcome in. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. On a Monday afternoon busy program. As usual,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, joining us pride of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli, will review Week fourteen

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Speaker 1: Titans twenty Jaguars nothing. Urban Meyer taking some heat again

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Speaker 1: after some weekend reports offense was shut out in the game,

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Speaker 1: the defense fault the best they could. Draft talk begins.

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Speaker 1: Because the Jaguars has been officially a liminated from the postseason,

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Speaker 1: social media questions will go around the NFL. In Week

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Speaker 1: four teen, Let's review the Titans over the Jaguars twenty

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Speaker 1: to nothing, the Jaguars second five game losing streak of

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Speaker 1: the season. The jack shut out for the first time

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Speaker 1: since two thousand nine, held under two hundred yards for

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Speaker 1: the third time this season and now in back to

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Speaker 1: back games, and the worst part of it a franchise

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Speaker 1: record low eight rushing yards on a franchise record low

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Speaker 1: eight rushing attempts, seven of those by running backs. This

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Speaker 1: performance after the weekend report by Tom Pallisero of NFL

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Speaker 1: Media of discontent and tension boiling over the coaches, players,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Urban Meyer, and then Urban after the

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Speaker 1: game on his conversations with owner Shot Khan and Urban's

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Speaker 1: belief on getting this turned around. I assured him that

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Speaker 1: we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast,

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Speaker 1: you know, that depends on Once again, I still think

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Speaker 1: there's good pieces you watch, don't you watch out there

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Speaker 1: today Myles Jack and that defense and some of those kids.

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Speaker 1: Uh Roy smoot, I mean I was those guys are

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Speaker 1: playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores

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Speaker 1: on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: So what's the answer. Start leaking information or some nonsense. Now, No,

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Speaker 1: that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again,

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Speaker 1: I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No,

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Speaker 1: let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a

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Speaker 1: position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother

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Speaker 1: said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy

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Speaker 1: very little my time. And if if there is a source,

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Speaker 1: that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds. If there's

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Speaker 1: some source that's doing it, that's Urban Meyer yesterday, Tony

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Speaker 1: Boselli and Pete Prisco with us now here on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, Good afternoon, Tony, good afternoon. Well they're is

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Speaker 1: a source to be clear, I mean, let's be clear.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I appreciate what Urban said, but Tom

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Speaker 1: pal Sero is a national writer that's pretty well respected.

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Speaker 1: And Jason locking For which I know everyone can't stand

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Speaker 1: Tom Pella Serlo with the NFL dot Com, Jason locking

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Speaker 1: For with CBS Sports, which is Pete's company, UM employer. Like,

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Speaker 1: these are respectable guys that typically and I'll let Pete

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Speaker 1: speak to this, don't report stuff unless they have confirmed

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Speaker 1: sources in a building. So it's either coming from the

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Speaker 1: building or it's coming through an agent that got it

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Speaker 1: from their client in the building. So there's sources. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's I mean, now Urban has said the whole thing

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Speaker 1: today again in his press conference. Um, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just telling you what's out there is

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Speaker 1: and so he's denying it. Tom Pella Sero doubled down.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is this, in my opinion, like this

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Speaker 1: thing is not working right now. I mean you are.

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Speaker 1: You're regressing as an offense, your first overall pick is

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Speaker 1: regressing as a player. You have scored nine points a

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Speaker 1: games since the Bay. You have talked about wanting to

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Speaker 1: Urban today and I disagree with them. Well, the game

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Speaker 1: gets out of hand, No, no, no, no, it was

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Speaker 1: But it's uh, there's not a lot of happiness in

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Speaker 1: Paradise right now. Pete Prisco, good afternoon to you. What

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Speaker 1: I didn't make it up, okay, And to say that

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Speaker 1: he isn't. That's the same as Tom Coughlin used to

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Speaker 1: I said this to him, I go, why would you

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Speaker 1: it's not made up. Let's be real. It's not made up.

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Speaker 1: So how can you prove it's made up? You can't.

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Speaker 1: If you go ask Marvin Jones if it's if he

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Speaker 1: had that incident an issue with Urban, what's he gonna say? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did, then Urban's lion. No I didn't. Then Pallasaro

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Speaker 1: You can't deny that. And Urban, if he was truthful,

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Speaker 1: It just isn't now. Whether he can fix that, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, And whether Sean Khan wants him to fix it,

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Speaker 1: But like this much, I know Trevor Lawrence is rotting

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Speaker 1: And if there eroting his skills and letting all his

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Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't working. If they want him out,

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Speaker 1: Oh there's a who goes to their games. Let me,

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Speaker 1: they're die hard fans. They grew up with it. They

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Speaker 1: they've ever had, It's never been this bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: if they want changes, I think that the people need

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's frustrating. It's frustrating for all sides. Absolutely frustrating.

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Speaker 1: but you have to run the ball. And they did not.

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Speaker 1: and you watched the game and I call the games.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing, what's the game plan,

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Speaker 1: help six? And it's been this JP. I've been consistent

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after it's twenty to

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Speaker 1: clear and concise, I think that's where we're gonna go down.

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Speaker 1: But the scariest thing about it is what if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know the answers well, that's all another issue, Pete.

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Speaker 1: If that's the fact, I'm giving him the benefit of

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Speaker 1: doubt that he knows the answer and he just doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to answer it, that's the scary part if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know the answer. One thing he said yesterday he

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Speaker 1: never had to deal with this before the leaks or whatever,

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Speaker 1: because he let me tell you something, there's a big

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Speaker 1: difference between covering college football covering the NFL, and I

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Speaker 1: know I've done both. It's a it's a different animal.

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Speaker 1: It's entire and particularly at Ohio State, where everything's great,

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Speaker 1: you're winning. At Florida, where everything is great, you're winning,

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Speaker 1: it's a different, different animal. You're dealing with sheltered college

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Speaker 1: kids who get very little access and very little that

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't deal with the agent and everything else. Well,

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Speaker 1: here you're dealing with players who are men. A they

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Speaker 1: want to be treated like men, and B you have

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Speaker 1: agents like Tony talked about, you have periphery people that

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Speaker 1: are involved, and there's morphing you're gonna get stuff out.

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Speaker 1: That's why you've never had to deal with this. How

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Speaker 1: many guys carver in Ohio State on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: day in and day out one two maybe be guys

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Speaker 1: and nationally, yeah, they were a big program, but there's

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Speaker 1: so any of them that you don't necessarily focus in

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Speaker 1: on that one. And so now in the NFL is

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Speaker 1: like thirty two national writers. There's a ton of them

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Speaker 1: National you know, TV people everywhere, there's a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: and there's more people around in the city that are

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Speaker 1: there every day, So you're dealing with that constantly. It

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Speaker 1: is a different thing, and I've covered both of them, Tony,

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Speaker 1: it's entirely different. But Pete, don't you think it's like

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Speaker 1: some of the problem is sometimes not just giving clear,

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Speaker 1: concise answers like this is what we're doing, is where

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Speaker 1: we're going. It's my decision, like what I'm the James Robinson,

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Speaker 1: my decision not to plan or I'm not getting it.

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Speaker 1: It's a coach's decision, keeping it internal. That's why, like

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Speaker 1: one thing about Tom would answer them, would answer the

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Speaker 1: question as as maniacal as he was, he would answer

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Speaker 1: the question, no, no, we didn't go there. But this

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Speaker 1: is the reason why we didn't think we could run

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Speaker 1: the ball. We didn't want to run the ball. It

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Speaker 1: was our proba. We came in with a plan to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball. Next time, we're gonna run the ball better.

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Speaker 1: Boom and the story. You got your answer and you

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Speaker 1: moved on. So I think that's part of the So

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Speaker 1: I walked down the hall with him and grated him

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Speaker 1: the entire time. Of course you didn't pee. I'm curious,

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Speaker 1: like like just as a test case, like putting you

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Speaker 1: in the press conference, like rewinding the tape, of like

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Speaker 1: letting Pete attend the press conference and ask questions. Is

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Speaker 1: the beat writer? I don't think anyone you know what,

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Speaker 1: I never liked. I never liked asking him in that

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Speaker 1: setting because then those guys always got my material on

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Speaker 1: TV before I could get into paper the next day. Remember,

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Speaker 1: So I'd wait and walk down the hallway with Tom

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Speaker 1: stop and talk to him and asking my questions, let

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Speaker 1: him scream and yell at me for whatever reason, and

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Speaker 1: then I got my story because I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: ask the questions, so everybody else had them. So I

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Speaker 1: didn't ask him in that You're you're sneaky Pete. You

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Speaker 1: are sneaky, sneaky Pete. That's good. That's good, peat guy,

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Speaker 1: sneak Pete. I like. I like that. Last week it

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Speaker 1: was Flipper see Flipper. We keep adding names up for Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back in the moment we're gonn here from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the four interception game yesterday,

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball played. Okay, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that coming up. Draft talk will commence tonight. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: has been officially eliminated from the playoffs, and then the

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Speaker 1: second hour of your social media questions and much more.

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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. We had a couple of

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Speaker 1: couple of calls that killed some momentum. Um. Have to

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Speaker 1: look at up. I'm not saying they were bad calls,

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Speaker 1: but just you look at it. You know, we had

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Speaker 1: a big play and there's a whole wink call brings

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Speaker 1: it back. So we gotta we gotta be more, you know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta be better with penalties, like we've said earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year as well. And then for me, I

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Speaker 1: just gotta finish better. You gotta keep playing. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I felt really good at being of the game. I

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Speaker 1: thought we were doing a good job taking with the

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Speaker 1: defense has given us for like we were on all

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Speaker 1: of our assignments, and I just got away from us

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Speaker 1: in the end. And I didn't think we played, um

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Speaker 1: a full game at all. Obviously you can tell that.

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Speaker 1: But um, we gotta help our defense. You know, they

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Speaker 1: kept us in the game, gave us plenty of chances

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Speaker 1: and didn't We didn't do anything with it. So that's

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. After the game in Nashville. He was twenty

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Speaker 1: four or forty passing two dwenty one yards, a career high,

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Speaker 1: four interceptions, thirty five and a half rating. Ran the

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Speaker 1: ball once for two yards. That's what of the rushing

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Speaker 1: yards for the Jags yesterday. It's a good job, thank you,

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Speaker 1: matth Um. So there you go. Fourteen picks for the season.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence struggle yesterday. Now you know, he also said that,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of tip balls, should not should

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Speaker 1: have made the catch on one two or just kind

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Speaker 1: of bad decisions and you know, so it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a mixed bag in the interceptions department yesterday. They all

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Speaker 1: count on his ledger though, welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy hour.

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Speaker 1: J P, Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli recapping a twenty

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Speaker 1: to nothing loss they need to score. That's all you

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Speaker 1: need to know, like I and I get what Trevor

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Speaker 1: is saying. And I can't even magine. You know, the

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Speaker 1: difficult how difficult this is for him, first of all,

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Speaker 1: pick all the pressure, wanting it to be good, wanting

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Speaker 1: to be the guy, wanting to come to this organization

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Speaker 1: to change things in it being worse than ever. That's

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Speaker 1: that's not easy, and I feel for him. But the

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Speaker 1: reality is, even at the beginning, it wasn't good. We're

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Speaker 1: moving the ball with four minutes left in the first half,

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Speaker 1: you had thirty three net yards. It was it was

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Speaker 1: never good. Like I heard Herban say, well they were

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Speaker 1: weird fishing and passing theme. What does that? What does

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Speaker 1: that mean? When you don't score points and you have

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Speaker 1: thirty three net yards? Nothing is good. It wasn't good,

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Speaker 1: like it was nothing good. And I watched it today

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Speaker 1: on tape and it was it was awful. It's nothing good.

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Speaker 1: These guys don't get open. The offensive line was awful

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Speaker 1: and positection at times. Andrew doing well the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks has been can never stop testing me and

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Speaker 1: tweeting me about the offensive line, Like somehow I've like

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Speaker 1: defended this group all year. I said, they've been I said,

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Speaker 1: and people backed me up on this. The first half

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Speaker 1: of the year. They weren't the problem. They played solid football.

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Speaker 1: They're running the ball. James Robinson was averaging five yards

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Speaker 1: of carry before Seattle. They were low stack total. They weren't.

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Speaker 1: Jay rob got hurt, like the whole things fell apart.

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Speaker 1: Might go to my point of saying he was your

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Speaker 1: best player, that you should have featured him more. And

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Speaker 1: the offensive line now is playing poorly this week. Both

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Speaker 1: guards no good. Last week, both guards no good. Hwan

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Speaker 1: Taylor inconsistent all year, not good this week. Shatley was

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Speaker 1: fine and Cam Robinson has been the best offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: on the team this year. So everyone on Twitter leave

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Speaker 1: me alone. Yeah, and they got to think about the

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Speaker 1: right tackle position play water. What does it hurt at

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Speaker 1: this point, like I've been against it by the way,

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Speaker 1: I brought that up. Yes, you ago and I got

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Speaker 1: thrown to the Wolves and I shut you down. I'm

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Speaker 1: at the point now like how like now, find out

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Speaker 1: if you can do it. Find out if you can

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Speaker 1: do it. If you can't do it, then you have

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Speaker 1: then you know, you got a lot of positions like,

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Speaker 1: now you're fixing Let's just be clear offensively. Gotta fix

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver, yeah, gotta fix tight end. Yeah okay, Well, like,

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Speaker 1: what's you're rolling with Dan Arnold again? If he's healthy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's I'll give you that one. Fine, you gotta fix

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Speaker 1: the offensive line? Sure, what do you do it? Running back?

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Speaker 1: See who's healthy next year? There's e t n ready

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Speaker 1: to roll. My point is like, and wait, you know

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is made up five people. You have

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Speaker 1: to make a decision on Cam Robinson. You have to

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Speaker 1: make a decision on your left guard, which I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: Way he's been playing. They're gonna bring him back. You

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Speaker 1: gotta make a decision for Brandon Linder, who has been

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Speaker 1: hurt all year, the last couple of years, he's been

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Speaker 1: struggling to healthy. Think he's missed forty games in his

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Speaker 1: career somewhere around that. And I hate it because I

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Speaker 1: love I mean, I'm a big brand liondo a guy,

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Speaker 1: And you gotta what do you do with a j

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Speaker 1: can He's been out all year, basically was not playing

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Speaker 1: great before you got hurt, had a very good year

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Speaker 1: last year. Your right tackle is struggling, like no one's business.

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Speaker 1: Like you like find out if Walker Little can do something,

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Speaker 1: so you have you can check the box at one place.

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Speaker 1: So you're not fixing everything, Yeah, because you only because

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Speaker 1: remember like we were talking about this last year, you

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Speaker 1: only can fix so many things each year. Well, things

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Speaker 1: that you thought were okay, remember Urban and Trent ballk

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Speaker 1: he told us and Obviouslyason, oh I love her offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We have a good, strong group. They brought them all back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well that's not playing out right now the way any

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Speaker 1: of us thought. And so now you add that to

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Speaker 1: the list. So you gotta start checking things off the

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Speaker 1: list and find out if guys can play. Can Walker

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Speaker 1: Little play at this level? Let's go find out Ken

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Speaker 1: will Richardson play. If he plays some more? Can he

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Speaker 1: play somewhere at least we've seen him in games, right,

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Speaker 1: But look the way Andrew Normal was playing, he ain't

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Speaker 1: coming back next year. So put somebody else in there. Why,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know me, I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: these like, but at this point, I it's hard to argue.

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Speaker 1: So I was, So I was right. You weren't two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. You are? You can you can say it,

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Speaker 1: you're you are now you have. Do they have any

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Speaker 1: any backups besides okay, we walk a little Richardson and

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Speaker 1: Shatley's in there is there's nobody else right A. J.

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Speaker 1: Cannons And I are you have McDermott, Casey McDermott, who's

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Speaker 1: the backup center with Linda out? Like No, it's not

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Speaker 1: like it's a lot of depth that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Nobody has that. Nobody is No, I know that, but

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Speaker 1: it's not like you have a bunch of young guys

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Speaker 1: you've been developing. That's why I'm like, you gotta go

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Speaker 1: find out what Walker little is. Like I'm at the

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Speaker 1: point is, look at the Green Bay pack Look at

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers up they're on their third tackle,

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Speaker 1: they're on they have a rookie right guard. The last

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Speaker 1: night they're starting right tackle who's a converted guard went

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Speaker 1: out and they had to put it back up in

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Speaker 1: there and they're in the backup center. They just keep winning.

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Speaker 1: May granted they have Aaron Rodgers and I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: let me give you a couple of games, figure out

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Speaker 1: a way at times to I don't think anyways getting

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Speaker 1: better on that offensive line. Let me I went through

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Speaker 1: this the other day with somebody who has gotten better

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Speaker 1: on the offense in the last six weeks, who has

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Speaker 1: improved anybody name one? Got one for me, Tony j.

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Speaker 1: P got one. Treadwell, fred Will has played better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I like it. You got one, ding ding ding, That's

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Speaker 1: all I got for you. Just asked for one, you gave,

635
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: You gave me one, and I'll give it to you.

636
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: Because he actually at times it looks like an NFL

637
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: received her should be a complimentary player on the offense. Maybe,

638
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: but that's it. The back hasn't gotten better. He's because

639
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: they don't use him, and he's been heard quarterbacks gotten worse.

640
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: The line has gotten worse. The receivers are no better.

641
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, every time Chanak goes in motion, they're gonna

642
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: throw a screen behind a lot of scrimmage and ask

643
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: the two receivers to block. It's just it's maddening to watch,

644
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: demanding office to watch. I'm at the point now, place Cisco.

645
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Put him in there, start them fine, if you can

646
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: play all the all the young guns are getting in there,

647
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: well like this, what's his name, Jordan Smith? I don't

648
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: even know whose name has never been around? Like, get

649
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Speaker 1: him up? What do you have to like what is

650
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: like is this what is Jason giving you? What is

651
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: John Warden? I know he had a good game whatever

652
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: last week? What like what are you getting find out?

653
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Are you building this in around John ward and like

654
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: the lord is a free agents? Okay, great, let's get

655
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Smith. Can you rush the pastor? Because we don't

656
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: rush the pastor very well? And you know it's a

657
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: outside of want. Smoot is our best defensive player. He's

658
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: consistent every week. You know he's gonna have a few tackles,

659
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: probably a sack, he's gonna press with the quarterback. He's yeah,

660
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: good like good. But my point is, put Jordan Smith

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Speaker 1: out there. What other rookies we have to to j

662
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: um j to Philly. He got his opportunity last week.

663
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: It was not great. It's really about it. I mean

664
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Speaker 1: to fill a Jordan Smith, Cisco, Tyson Campbell start with Walker,

665
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: little Jordan Smith and Cisco let's go or put Jordan

666
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Smith out on third down whatever, like why not, I'm there,

667
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: I've given up. Hey, let's uh, we'll take another time out.

668
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: We'll come back a little defensive talk and dig into

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00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: their day as a whole. Yesterday, second hour we're gonna

670
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: keep it real. At some point in the second were

671
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: not keeping it real. Now, Oh it's real. It's it's

672
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: been kept real for a long time around here. So

673
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: when we keep it real, though, we're gonna talk draft

674
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,279
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Speaker 1: Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. It's kind of

679
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: hard to find the worry, but it's not like I'm

680
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: a seting to give up. You know. My main thing

681
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: is I've been a leader downing. You know, we've gotta

682
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: keep firing. It doesn't matter the outcome circumstances. You got said,

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: the main thing you coming back. We're not gonna lay

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00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: down for nobody. Um. So I met to drawn board,

685
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, each week, and you know, we gotta figure

686
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: out something, how to get better at something. So um

687
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: that's the part I'm gonna figure out. Im gonna take

688
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: you twenty four hours, figure out what happened Like us

689
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: when we got to make some some arrangement, make this

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00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: stuff work, get this stuff clicking, and get us going

691
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: so we don't figure it out. That's Shaquille Griffin, Jaguar's

692
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: cornerback yesterday in Nashville, after the Jaguars lost to the Titans,

693
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: swatty nothing the final score. First shutout lost for the

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00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: Jags since two thousand nine when they lost forty one

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: nothing at Seattle. It's a long time ago. J P,

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00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli, and you know the defense.

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00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: We'll get back to the offense little later. There's plenty

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: of time for that. Of course. The defense yesterday allowed

699
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: two hundred sixty three yards to the Titans. That's the

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00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: second best day of the season for the Jaguars defense

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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: as a whole, in totally ordage allowed um and then

702
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: after the interceptions from Trevor Lawrence those same possessions, they

703
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: allowed twenty one yards and three points after those interceptions.

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00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: So they did what they could do. They just didn't

705
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of help from me. I mean, then

706
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't go off the field. I mean, the flip

707
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: side of it is they had trouble getting off the

708
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: field the first three drives there were some long drives,

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00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: long drives. They didn't force a pun they gave up

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown, missfield goal and a field goal. Ten plays,

711
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: nine plays, fifteen plays. Respective, that's part of your job too.

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00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: You have to give your offense. You gotta get some

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00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: three ounce up your offense out um. But overall, yeah,

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: it's ten nothing middle of the third. Let's go do

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Speaker 1: something right. So, I mean Peter was the second best

716
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: day by yardage. I mean, they're they're doing what they can.

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00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: On defense. No, they actually played well in defense, and

718
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: and you know, look, they play hard. They're not the

719
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: greatest in terms of talent, they do play hard. And

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00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: I think Joe Cohen's done a good job compensating for

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00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: the lack of talent. I think that he just pure talent.

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: He has to go win. I mean, there's another side

723
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Speaker 1: of the ball. Who's playing well on that side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. That smoot we talked about, that is one again. Yeah,

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00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I think j want smooth plays. He's another one that

726
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: plays hard and tough and physical. He's starting every week.

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00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think if you need, you could start

728
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: him at one end, if you had the elite dominant

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00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: edge Russia at the other end. Yeah, Josh disappeared the

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00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: last three weeks and I don't know where he report.

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00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: He's on the injury report last week. I know that shoulder. Okay,

732
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, well, you know that

733
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Speaker 1: started to become a problem too. If he's on the

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Speaker 1: injury because he was on the injury report, he's been

735
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: injured a bunch. No, but he's playing. If you go play,

736
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Speaker 1: you gotta produce. If you want to be the guy,

737
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: you gotta go sack the quarterback like Carold. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is he as good as Harold Andry the past should be?

739
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: He's not. Right now, Carol is eleven sacks. I think

740
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: us Miles Jack is Miles Jack. He didn't play that

741
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: well on Sunday. I didn't think he was Okay, he

742
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: was fine. Damian Wilson was good. Wilson had ten tackles

743
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: in a sack. Roy Robertson Harris or or Roy roberts

744
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: either one. Both are good. Robertson Harris he had four

745
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: tackles in a sack and two quarterback hits. Um. Sorry,

746
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Sekille Griffin played well. Ray Shan Jenkins I thought played well. Um.

747
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: They were physical, Yeah, they played. I mean they did

748
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: a good job. I think uh von hell Hamilton after

749
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: getting I think he got benched. No world report. He

750
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: wasn't active last week. He was better. He still gets

751
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: pushed around a little bit. Um. It's about wingered. Everybody's

752
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: all over wingered. Stupid penalty. You can't hit the quarterback

753
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: in the head, and you can't. Everyone knows you can't

754
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: go dive it offensive lineman's legs as they're trying to

755
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: block you. We can't do it. Don't do it, stupid um.

756
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: And And is that where Cisco goes in. Yeah, that's

757
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: where I put him. I would start next week, Raid,

758
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: start Ray Shon Jenkins in Cisco in the secondary, and

759
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: I would start I would start walking. I'd start Walker

760
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: little at right tackle. If you don't want to start

761
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: right tackle, guess what, Walker, you're starting a left guard.

762
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: Like I'm putting you on the field. You gotta go play.

763
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I picked you in the second round. I gotta know

764
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: if you I can count on you to be a

765
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: starter next year. I'm playing that that draft. That draft

766
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: needs to get guys on the field. I mean, out

767
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: of that draft, there's two guys playing. That's it. Quarterback

768
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: number one overall and Tyson Campbell that's it. No, you

769
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: gotta you can't blame that on you can't blame that

770
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: on the previous regime. So that's what I'm doing. But yeah,

771
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: defensively give Joe cole credit. I mean, first year coordinator,

772
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: tough situation. You see some growing pains of getting guys

773
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: on the field at times, but you know he keeps

774
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: on working at that. I liked Joe, I root for

775
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: Joe's a friend, um, and I think you like it

776
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: was ugly at early, it was not good, but they've

777
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: gotten better, and you know that's all you can ask

778
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: if like, if you just told me the offense is

779
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: getting better too, Okay, Like I actually could live with

780
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: if you're like two and eleven, if you like you're progressing,

781
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: like there's I think one of the big issues that

782
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: this for franchise has, this organization has is I think

783
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: people have lost hope. I ain't. The fans right now

784
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: are like, what do I have look forward to next year?

785
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: I can't even talk about draft anymore. I was all

786
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: excited about Urban and and Trevor. It's worse now than

787
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: it was last year, and so you lose hope. And

788
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: that's what we You can't have happened. That's why they

789
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: have to win this week. They gotta go beat the Texans.

790
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Are you gonna lock it? No, I'm not. I wouldn't

791
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: do that to the team. My locks have been terrible

792
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: this year. But I mean, listen, the Texans have a

793
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: workie quarterback, Davis Mills. He's play, he played, He's played

794
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: better than the rookie quarterback in Jacksonville. They got a

795
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: bunch of they got a bunch of different pieces and

796
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: parts and stuff, and guys hurt. So like, you gotta

797
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: go beat those guys. You have to because you want

798
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: a new low. No, I don't you want a new low. No,

799
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Speaker 1: I don't go lose the Texas. I'm no, thanks, we can't.

800
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: We can't lose them home game, defend the bank, locked

801
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: down the bank, lock it down. All that you gotta

802
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: have to You gotta win the game. Got to score well.

803
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. They're scoring nine points a game.

804
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: Now here's mr By it's only under fourt The good

805
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: news is we're averaging thirteen point eight thirteen point eight

806
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: points a game. But that's point two more points in

807
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans they're only at thirteen point six. I said,

808
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: we just go with the stats, win the game, move

809
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: on analytics. Analytics, they don't lie, like the under. What's

810
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a low It's gonna be a low score

811
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: a game. I've never been an over under, but if

812
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I was setting the line, I'd put it in like

813
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty one. Does that even mean? Whatever? What's what's the

814
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: low line? What's the lower over under in high thirties?

815
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: Is a low over under? Oh gosh, they're not getting

816
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: high thirties. That means it's like, you know, sixteen to fourteen. Yeah,

817
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: it's thirty, I go thirty. You know, it's still when

818
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: you look back on it in the last month and

819
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: a half of the seasons, still amazing. At the Buffalo

820
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: Bills scored lost nine six, nine to six, and the

821
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: you know, and the Jags had to Trevor had a

822
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: good day in London, but they had to kick those

823
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: fifty plus yard field goals to win. I mean, yeah,

824
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, That's how You've won two close ones,

825
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: really close ones. You haven't lost any close ones. Have

826
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: not really they had lee to other times, but there

827
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: was nothing like in the fourth quarter world, like you

828
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: gave up the game when he drives biting our fingernails. Hey,

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00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. Uh, the second hour

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00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll hit the top news oh

831
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: the day. We'll keep it real with draft talk. We'll

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00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: get your social questions go around the league planning ahead.

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Speaker 1: This Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Just today, Tom Paul Sarah publicly

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00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: doubled down and what he said that he assisted, all

836
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Speaker 1: the things that he wrote in his mind, according to

837
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: his sources, absolutely happened. So you have you have these

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00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: two diametrically opposed st I had a heated argument with yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen, Like I got little we gotta law

840
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: like Marvin's text number or something that inappropriate. Name that

841
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: is urban Meyer today and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy

842
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: Hour our number two. What a show it's been so far.

843
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: One hour to go. Well, the Jaguars are trying to

844
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: recover from a twenty nothing lost to the Titans. Urban

845
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: Meyer taking heat again after that Saturday NFL media report

846
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: of tenship between coaches players in Urban including an alleged

847
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: shouting incident with Marvin Jones Jr. Calling assistant coaches losers

848
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: urban denies, each of those, by the way, and then

849
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: the game came along. Well, let me get through the

850
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: open here. The game came along after that. Twenty nothing

851
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: the final score the Jags second five game losing streak

852
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: of the season. Now, the Jags shut out for the

853
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: first time since two thousand nine, held under two hundred

854
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: guards for the third time this season and now and

855
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: back to back games, and a franchise record blow eight

856
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: rushing yards on a franchise record low eight rushing attempts,

857
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: penalties all day long. The defense did fight, but they

858
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: were on the field a lot up. Next the battle

859
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: of two and eleven teams in Week fifteen, the Houston

860
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans got them in

861
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: Week one, and they've gotten the last seven straight. In fact,

862
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Houston's won seven in a row in the series and

863
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: eighteen of the last twenty four against the Jacks. Yes,

864
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: first of all, like this is the same stories last week.

865
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: The Titans have beat us every year since. I think

866
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I just like got the same rundown script and like

867
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: just changed the name. I'm sorry, I started giggling. But

868
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: when you said the meeting where erber Meyer was calling

869
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: coaches losers, which he denied. To be clear, he denied,

870
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I would have paid money if that actually, if that really,

871
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: if it happened. Let's let's assume Tom Palastrow's sources tell

872
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: the truth. Whatever. I would love to be in that meeting,

873
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: because you know many times I was called a loser

874
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: and bad names by coaches. That's an offensive, lineman. I

875
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: would have paid money to be in the rumor it's going.

876
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: I used to picture all the coaches around He's like,

877
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: you're a loser, because it's a little bit of what

878
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: it was like at times as a player. Because Arvid's

879
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: delone coach he said, guess what it all? It all

880
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: rolls downhill, and you know what the all is. It's

881
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: something stinky and you don't want on you. But Pete,

882
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: that just makes me laugh. Can you imagine the head

883
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: coach walking around in the staff going, you're a loser.

884
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: Your resume stinks and you you stink, and just it

885
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: would be beautiful. Well, isn't that the same staff that

886
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: he said, um he hired that was the best of

887
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: the best. To be clear, he's saying he never said

888
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: that to them. He's saying Tom Palasero's report is not accurate.

889
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: You guys said pelas a double down. Where did he

890
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: double down on radio in Jacksonville to day? He was

891
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: on tinte XL earlier today. Okay, alright, he doubled down,

892
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: so he said it happened that. Look, it probably did happen.

893
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: You wouldn't report that if it didn't happen. And and look,

894
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: the only way to see it's like the old days.

895
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: He can't go in the locker room anymore. If the

896
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: locker room was open, you'd go smart Jones face to face.

897
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Did you imagine we're talking about that during the break

898
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: that's closed now and there's only a mixed media zone

899
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: you can get select players and only tiered individuals can

900
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: do that, so they and only in group setting. So

901
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: he's not you know, in the old days, he used

902
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: to be able to go in there and you'd go

903
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: over to a player and you know, hey, what's going

904
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: on again? The you know you're not playing real well

905
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: and he's not playing you. You're mad? Yeah, man, okay,

906
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: I got a story. You know, he can't do that

907
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: anymore because hey, the guy's not going to answer that

908
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: question in a group setting. He's not going to tell

909
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: you anything in a group setting. And look, I guarantee

910
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: you if that happened, there's four or five other players

911
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that saw it or know about it. And so if

912
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: you're covering the team, you could go in there and

913
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: ask them, here's what you put it on the record.

914
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Let's just cut to the chase. Make Bernie Parmarily and

915
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Barbara Jones available to the media. Mark get over with

916
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: the order. Told last week that Parmly was gonna be

917
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: available this coming week, So is he going to be

918
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like at some point, just like get

919
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: it over with. Like I'm so like where I agree

920
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: with Urbans, like we need to move beyond this, Like

921
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: it's time to move on. But as long as I

922
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but I think it's like there's

923
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: a credibility because right now it's a credibility issue from

924
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: the standpoint of it's the national media's word against your word.

925
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: The only way to like solve it. And it's terrible

926
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: because you put your assistant coach in a bad place

927
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: and you put the player in a bad place. But

928
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: but that's what you did. And that's what it is.

929
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: They're all we're all adults just rolling out to the media.

930
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Get it over with. But what is Barbara Jones gonna say? Well,

931
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: but Pete, at least they'll be over Here's the other

932
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: thing about Margaret Jones and door tears with the lot right,

933
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: And there was this one. You didn't hear anything like

934
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: this about Marvin Jones. He was with the Bengals before

935
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: that with the Lions, a ten year pro. Now, yeah,

936
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: if it didn't happen, why would someone pick up Marvin

937
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: Jones as the person saying that, I don't know, I

938
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: just like rollout. There's Look, I've heard of other ones too,

939
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: that there's been other players that I've had issues with him.

940
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's not sugarcoat the thing. But my point is

941
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: this is the problem. Tom had issues, Tony Thomas, issues

942
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: with every player. Sure, here's the other side. Does everybody

943
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: have to be happy all the time? Well, that's my point.

944
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: Who cares? I got a shouting match, had to be

945
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: separated from Kevin gilbride in Mike Mason and I had

946
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: plenty shouting matches at each other in disagreement at practice.

947
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: What did you do wrong? Tony, what did you do wrong? Kevin?

948
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: It was Kevin's fault. He lost. I love Kevin Gilbright too.

949
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: I tell him, like he knows that he Kevin. But

950
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: Kevin had a he had a short temper once a while,

951
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: and I remember, yeah, temper, great football coach, great dude.

952
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: Love Kevin, and he uh and he like I like

953
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: it only happened a few times during the whole season,

954
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: but he would just all of a sudden snap and

955
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: lose it on guys and like just lose it. Like

956
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: I can't even repeat what was said on the radio.

957
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: And I would never do that because I and that

958
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: just what happened. And I remember like sitting there going

959
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: if he ever does that to me, I'm not like,

960
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And so we run the like we've

961
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: lost like six in a row. It's miserable, like everyone's tight,

962
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: it's tense, and we run a slip screen slip screen left,

963
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: and it's a difficult play for the tackle because you

964
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: have to it's timing and like you have to read

965
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: it up to the make sure you go up to

966
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: the alley inside, up alley outside and anyways, and I

967
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: guess he didn't like how I did it, and before

968
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: I can turn around and get back to the huddle,

969
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: he is in my grill, like just undressing me. That's

970
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: why I said, I'd love to see if if that

971
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: did happen where urban was undressing the coaches, I'd beat.

972
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: I'd be great. I'd love to sit there and have

973
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: popcorn watch. But he was undressing me, just going at it,

974
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, and I lost it. I snapped

975
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: and I went after him, and we had to be

976
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: separated because Kevin is the type of dude like I

977
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: would have whipped. I would have I would have whipped

978
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: his rear end. But Kevin wasn't gonna let back down,

979
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: and so he was coming like we're being pulled apart,

980
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: chaos on the field. Guess what. Afterwards, I went to

981
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: his office and coach, you're the coach on the player

982
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: in my bad he said. We talked it, Mike, I

983
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: would have given you a beat. Mike made the late

984
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Mike major and I Tom and I had words like

985
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: like he was because you he did like your competitors,

986
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: not because I distressed actor he disrespected, Like you're mad

987
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: things aren't going well. You could ask or you could

988
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: ask for us to be respected. And here's the thing.

989
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Tom Coughlin's first couple of years on

990
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: the Virgin going rotten. We're going rot. And so it

991
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: got salvaged and he did a lot of he did

992
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: some self reflection and inner we started helping fix it.

993
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: You're wrong, you aren't changing at all, Pete. He was

994
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: the same guy. We won, and guys like winning. And

995
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: he was a good guess what. And he was a

996
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: good coach. He was organized, he was detailed. I'm not

997
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: and this is I'm not even say anything about Urban

998
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just saying what Tom was. He was miserable.

999
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: He was, he was He whipped the crap out of

1000
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: us daily. We started winning. Winning fixes everything and here

1001
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: and I want to go back to like I like,

1002
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: here's the big thing. I don't get, like all the

1003
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: smoke and all the noise coming out, like it's a

1004
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: lot the least of my worries is a coach and

1005
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: a player going at it, Like here's the answer. Let's

1006
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: say it did happen. Urbans just said, yeah, we had

1007
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: a disagreement. We handled it provably. I'm not going to

1008
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: discuss it with you. Okay, it's over. Marvin called Marvin here, Marvin, Yeah,

1009
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: we had a coach coach, and we discussed like men,

1010
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: we're good, Okay, big deal, who can like okay publicly

1011
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: going here and saying after all these years that you

1012
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: you guys weren't happy that he called out Brunelle after

1013
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: the interception after the in the Titans game and embarrassed

1014
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: him and that ended up being a rift between the

1015
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: two of them. I'm not gonna get into that. Still

1016
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: under the bridge, Tony, come on. My point is this,

1017
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: it's it's not like the Marvin Jones or it's not

1018
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: the James right, it's not these one. It's almost how

1019
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: we respond the response to them, Like if you guess what,

1020
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: you're the head coach. If you wanted to bench James

1021
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: Robinson because he fumbled, then bencham you're the head coach.

1022
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: Bill Belijack doesn't all the time, but then you gotta

1023
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: bench Carl's high too. You don't get it both ways,

1024
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: and you don't. I don't think you're gonna go tell

1025
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: the media it's will go after go after running back

1026
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: coach because I don't know. And then the report is

1027
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: it was your decision, Like those are like things you

1028
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know what we're hiding from. Just

1029
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: call it as it is. Yeah, I benched him. I

1030
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: guess what if you find out with a bench again, Pete,

1031
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: you asked the question a moment ago. We didn't get

1032
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: your answer was about urban What was it? Is it fixable?

1033
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Is his handling of this team fixable? Can he change

1034
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: who he is a little bit? And I don't know

1035
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: if it is? And look, I can tell stories about

1036
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Tom back in the day, and you know when I

1037
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: wrote a bunch of them about how he was. He

1038
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: was a dictator and drove people crazy. Two years ago,

1039
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: three years ago, I wrote a column, big story on

1040
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: what went on after two thousand and seventeen with that team.

1041
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Remember all the crap that went on with that team.

1042
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: So crap happens on all teams, and you know this, Tony,

1043
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: every single one of them has stuff going on, And

1044
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: you're right, it's how does the head coach handle it?

1045
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: And he does not do a great job of handling it. Yeah,

1046
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: I benched him, sit him down, Like you said, I

1047
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: sat him down and needed to be benched. Why aren't

1048
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: we running the ball? That's a good question, But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the heart of it. I want to

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00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: run the ball more. We will run the ball more. No,

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: but you don't get to say that we're not gonna

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: get to it. I'm the head coach. You're right, I

1053
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: need to fix it. It's not good enough. Like here's

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, just like you are the head coach,

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00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: like you are the leader. Not only are you the

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00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: head coach, you run the entire building. You have final

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: say on anything that happens in this building about football.

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: You can't get up there and say I don't know,

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00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: or blame somebody else or this person. You gotta say

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: I own it. And you know what. You fumble, you

1061
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: don't play. You know you do this, you don't play.

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I might. Here's my expectations. Like I don't need to hear.

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think people like I think it's losing.

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00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: It's like losing a little bit. Like I don't care.

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you like a guy, how

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, he's a great competitor. No one cares,

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: No one cares, No one cares. So they have has

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: finals say on personnel decisions. He has final say on

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: roster decisions. He has finals say on everything. Doesn't play

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00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: he has finals. Say on everything, he has finals, say

1071
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: on radio, has finals. JP's career has finals. That's a

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00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on that one. No, but you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm not even trying to.

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take a ship with Pete. Laugh again,

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01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not. This isn't a shot at

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: urban like. It's answering your question. It's to your question.

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Speaker 1: Can he fix it? Not the way you're going right now.

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01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he can. He wanted, I'll give you,

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Speaker 1: and we used Tom Coughlin here a lot. I happened

1080
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: to love the man in respect him. Do I agree

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Speaker 1: with everything he did? Not even close have him and

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: I have it Our run INDs absolutely. But I think

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01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: like Tom Coughlin, successful NFL head coach, he's good and

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01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: he's good when he does. I don't have to agree

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: with everything he did, and that's not my job. I

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: was a player when he went to New York and

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: you know this beat. He had a revolt going on,

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: and he if he didn't change they working, he wouldn't

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01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: have to two super Bowl rings. And he adjusted his

1090
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: approach because the veteran team he had guys like stray

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Hand and Tiki Barber and like who he was and

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Speaker 1: what they were trying do. He adjusted and that is well, Chronicles,

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not telling anything that's like breaking news. And so

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01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: can Urban fix it? You better take it. You better

1095
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: start looking in the mirror and start with you and

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: what do you need to do? Because what is ever

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01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: is going on right now is not working? And I

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: hope he can fix it. I don't like, like, I

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: don't think firing a guy after one year it is good.

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01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean, do you hear all this chatter fire Herban,

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: get rid of Urban blah blah blah blah whatever, like

1102
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: that's not good for any organization. It's not good for Arizona.

1103
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: It was good for the Arizona Cardinals. What's happened here once,

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01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: It's not good for any organization. It was damn good

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinal. But Peach, you know what I'm saying. Overall,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I normally would never I don't know,

1107
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Let it play out. And so

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: my point is saying that asked. I asked Hayes Carline

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: this the other day when I was on with them.

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: I said, normally, have you gone to any of the

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01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: Monday and Wednesday press conferences and come away because wins

1112
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: and losses. Yeah, that's the most important thing. But in

1113
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: the first year you kind of get the benefit of death.

1114
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: But you come away from Monday or Wednesday press conferences

1115
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: with Urban thinking he's got it down. He's he's he's

1116
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: answered my questions, he's telling me about football. He's got

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: it all down. Yeah, it'll work out in the long run.

1118
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: And Hayes answered me honestly said no, not once. And

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: I think if you asked all the media, all the

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Speaker 1: media guys that question, they'd answered the exact same way.

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01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: My point. But that's my point, Pete. I'm going back Kenny,

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: fix it. I hope so. I hope so, because two

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: and eleven not very good. You're one in fifteen last year.

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: In the way it's going right now, I don't know

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01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: what the line is. I don't gamble and I know,

1126
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: but you know what's the line on the gates. But

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01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are picking the I mean,

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: it's a coin for the has to get to Houston,

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: Texas who have this man woke her entire roster and

1130
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: spent nothing in free agent for the most part, very

1131
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: little rebuild, scrap. I get the Jets after that. You better,

1132
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: like my point is saying this, you gotta like this

1133
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: is going on track. Is a worst season than you

1134
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: were last year when you expectations. Everything went last week.

1135
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: So I hope he can figure it out. Pete, what's

1136
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: up real quick before I gotta get a break. But

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: I happen to see this tweet today. This was from Dent. Dent,

1138
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: I saw it when I looked up something. If they

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01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: don't win the division in two years, then something is wrong.

1140
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: Chris con Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer. That was That was

1141
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: in January last year when I knew Trevor Larns was coming. Well,

1142
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: something seems to be wrong because they aren't winning division

1143
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: next year. Jaguars Game Day Radio has brought to you

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: by Vicestar Credit Union to Good Bank Better. We're gonna

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01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: keep it real when we come back to haven't been Nope,

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Speaker 1: we have not. This was starting now. We're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: it real when we return. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick Pete Prisco Tony

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01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: Boselli recapping a twenty to nothing lost with the Jaguars

1151
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans. The Jags are now two and

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01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: eleven and they'll face the Houston Texans in week fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Here at t i A a bank Field Time for

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Speaker 1: Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Bundavi Open

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Speaker 1: up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning wine by

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01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: Robert Mundavi. The Jaguars have been officially eliminated from the postseason.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars Draft talk will commence tonight. You're on Jaguars Happy,

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. Draft order as it

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: sits today, Number one would be the Detroit Lions at

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01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: one eleven and one. The Jaguars would be number two.

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: They have the same exact record and strength of schedule

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: is Houston at the moment, but the division record is

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: the next tiebreaker down. That's why the Texans have the

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: better division record. Their third Jaguars currently or second in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And then there's four straight New York teams

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Speaker 1: that it would pick after that evidence today there's a dozen,

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Speaker 1: of course in today. There are four weeks left in

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Speaker 1: the season. Okay, so the Giants have five and six,

1169
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: and the Jets have four because they both had trades earlier.

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01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: So those where the Bears and the Seahawks are. And

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Speaker 1: the Eagles have three picks too. Yeah, they start with

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Speaker 1: the tenth right now, and they've got two others later

1173
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: in the first round. So alright, what are we doing? Draft?

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Speaker 1: This is this? It is this is the draft offic

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Speaker 1: Keep it real here. Let's just say, let's just say,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing. I don't know what we're doing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're keeping it real. There's the draft order you want, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through. Let's just say in this scenario

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Speaker 1: that the Lions take Aidan Hutchinson, the local kid from

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Speaker 1: Michigan first overall. I wanted Aiden Hutchinson. Well you're not

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: getting them, keep losing them. But here's the Lions have

1182
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: left to play. Where's Arizona. They're not winning at Atlanta,

1183
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: probably not winning, at Seattle, probably not winning, and then

1184
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Speaker 1: home against Green Bay, so they're gonna have the first

1185
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: overall pick. It looks like, oh, I think they can

1186
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: beat Seattle. See they can beat Seattle in Seattle. Seattle

1187
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: is no good. And then they gotta hope like Green

1188
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: Bay isn't playing for anything in the final week of season.

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Speaker 1: But in all likelihood, the jar is gonna be picking second.

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: So if they're picking third because we beat this week,

1191
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: you just said they're not going to I never said that.

1192
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: I said if they don't canna be dark, Okay, fine,

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: I'll lock it. They're gonna be Wow. He just's gonna

1194
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: come off the and we'll score some points and win.

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna it's gonna let me tell you the score

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: of the game. I can't wait to hear this. It

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: should be the final score thirteen point eight to point six. Jain. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So say Hutchinson goes first overall to the Lions, then

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Speaker 1: one number. Do you have the number two pick? Where

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Speaker 1: you take? What do you take it? Tond you taking

1201
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: a there's an elite passed rusher in Oregon, although some

1202
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: people question that, Um, do you take a wide receiver there?

1203
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: I think it's way high for wide receiver. I'm not

1204
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: taking I'm not taking receiver to overall. You don't need

1205
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So you take the pass rusher from Oregon

1206
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Speaker 1: in this scenario. Now, if you can't play him, not

1207
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: taking him, he can't play. I think he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He just but then is he is? Is he Dion

1209
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: Jordan's No, If he's than that and it's the second pick,

1210
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: them all pretty good. Like if it's the second pick,

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Speaker 1: he better good. In fact, there's some people still think

1212
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Speaker 1: you might go first. Okay, who's like, what are the like?

1213
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Speaker 1: I don't even know who the top five players are

1214
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: in the draft. Well, what about the big offensive tackle

1215
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: from Alabama, Evan Neil? Name Evan Neil? Then you got

1216
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: the corner from LSU Stingley Stingley last year. You can

1217
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: have a receiver involved, and uh, you could get value

1218
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: by trading in a way and getting more picks because

1219
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: somebody wants a quarterback. Is there anyone who wants to

1220
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: trade up with me? Because I want to trade back

1221
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Speaker 1: to like five, six, seven and get a receiver with

1222
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Speaker 1: extra picks. H with the Giants to be able to pack.

1223
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Speaker 1: Do they want a new quarterback? Are they done with him?

1224
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: What quarterback? Who's trade up for any quarterback in this draft? Anyways?

1225
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: Nobody is? Nobody is and that's the problem. So it's

1226
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Speaker 1: pass rusher, corner, trade down and take a speed receiver.

1227
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: But we know what they need. It's not hard to

1228
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: figure out. But they do need They knew need an

1229
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, don't they. But that's the thing. Do they

1230
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: need an officsive tackle after drafting one at the top

1231
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Speaker 1: of the second round last year? Yes? Answer, well, I

1232
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Speaker 1: don't know. That's why you got play Walker little the

1233
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: last four weeks. I'm with you, Tony, I agree with

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: because nothing against you want Taylor. Well, I guess it

1235
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: is against him because what I've seen the last two years,

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 1: I've not seen a guy get better. I've seen a

1237
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Speaker 1: guy get worse than inconsistent. Yeah, and it's not a

1238
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,959
Speaker 1: guy that leads you to optimism for next year. So yeah,

1239
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: play Walker little, play Walker Little. Then we'll get into

1240
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Speaker 1: draft talk. Great draft talk. That was crazy. We're gonna

1241
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: have we got we got tons of draft talk. There's

1242
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna be so much draft talk. Why do you hate

1243
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: it so much? It's a reality. You gotta I've done

1244
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: no work to figure out who is even available. Well,

1245
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean that this was the deal. When the Jaguars

1246
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: are efficient eliminated, the draft talk begins, and that's what

1247
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: we've done tonight. I mean, you need a receiver, you

1248
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: need someone who can play like and here's the word.

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: I mean you know this, Pete. The word is now

1250
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: that Tampa's gonna offer whatever it takes a kip, keep

1251
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin or franchise him. Correct, Davante Adams isn't going

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: anywhere Chris Godwin. So that leaves you a pool of

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Speaker 1: guys like Mike Williams, Alan Robinson, um, those kind of

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: players that that doesn't make you that much better. And

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01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you overpay those guys. Mhmm. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: you have to draft not just one receiver Tony, you

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01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: have to draft like two or three of them. Well,

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: this goes back to last year. Why didn't you be like,

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, I hate doing this. We're keeping it so

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: we're keeping it real, Just keep it like et N.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a great player, he's been hurt, so this

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01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: is no like judgment on e t N. I just

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01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have picked the back there. Like how about getting

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Speaker 1: Friarmouth the tight end for Pittsburgh. Watched him all year

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01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: at that position to gets a playmaker? How about going

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: and getting you know, the little slot receiver that Arizona

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Speaker 1: got out of Purdue or the little slot run out

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Speaker 1: of like out of Old miss How about someone can

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: run Why like a playmaker in the passing game. You

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Uh, it's just curious to me, Like

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Speaker 1: how because now we're starting here. You want you want

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Speaker 1: my draft, you want me keeping a real draft talk.

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm frustrate because you need like fifteen positions. You don't

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: have enough picks because what have you fixed this year?

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Speaker 1: Get a quarterback and you know you have a corner

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: I like, I like Tyson camp I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good player. But what else do you have?

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: What did you fix? Nothing? Well, I don't know. I

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01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: have no idea. What didn't see You haven't seen a

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: lot of those guys out there. But E T. N

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01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: was picked because they didn't like James Robinson. Period. That's

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01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: the end of that story. It's hard, it's hard. It's

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: hard to argue that right now. That was Keeping it

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Speaker 1: Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what's keeping it real? Have you seen some of

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: the tweets we've got today? Yes? Are you gonna read

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Speaker 1: those on air? Some of them will make the show,

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: others will not. Yeah, something should not open up A

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Speaker 1: winner today, Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert Mundavi.

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Speaker 1: What a day. It has been so far, we have

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to go. Your social media questions, at least

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Speaker 1: the ones that are arible when we come back. It's

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back,

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01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: It's Jaguar is Happy. What are you laughing at, Tony?

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: Where your microphone is on? We're on the air. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: problem this picture. I'll send it your way. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get into it. It's just that's great. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our social media questions coming up? What are you?

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Speaker 1: What is this? What is this? It's like trying. Okay,

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: that's enough. Yeah I saw that. Yes, that's great, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is awful radio we put out. We put out

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Speaker 1: the bat signal every Monday. This has been our most

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: responsive Monday. I must say, I'm just guessing. I don't

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01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: have the statue of the analytics to back that up,

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: but um, you know, it feels like it and let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. Social media question number one, at least

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Speaker 1: the ones that can make the air at Matthew lock eight,

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Speaker 1: can you draw similarities to that of the Fins and Flores,

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: the Bills and McDermott, the Bengals and Stacy franchise has

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: had major issues at the start, stuck to the course

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: and now performing. That's fair Bills, the Bills McDermott did not.

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Speaker 1: They made the playoffs for first year from the mistake

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: and they actually lost to the Jaguars here ten three

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Speaker 1: his first year, so that was not really that many issues.

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Speaker 1: Finns Flores started terrible, ended up closing out the season

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Speaker 1: on a high note because they got better each week.

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Speaker 1: Not the same story here, um Stacy and question mark Bengals. Um,

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Speaker 1: they were terrible and yeah, I guess that would be

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: the one that you could say was like really really

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: bad and then they got better this year after the

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: year two of the with the quarterback. But even last

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt. Last year quarterback got hurt. And remember

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: last year they were bad, but they were scoring points,

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: throwing the ball over the field. The movement that wasn't

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: like this like they were losing games because they couldn't

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback is getting killed. But they know it all.

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Speaker 1: They had a bunch of offense pet if I'm not misnaken, well,

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Speaker 1: and you know you mentioned the Bills and McDermott and

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about that is Josh Allen threw ten

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes and twelve picks that first year. He was bad,

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Speaker 1: he was bads. No, he didn't. McDermott went to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and then they and then they,

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Speaker 1: then they went and made the pick and drafted Josh

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Speaker 1: Out went backwards a year but played good deeper they

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 1: were still in games, and then third year back in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. So it just doesn't. It doesn't. It has

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Speaker 1: no feel of that. No, no, none, so no, so

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Speaker 1: none of the above. Maybe Bengals a little bit pizza. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you down for no pete. Question number two

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Speaker 1: at nine oh four and more, why didn't the Jags

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01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: utilize the waiver wire during the season. I'm guessing this

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: is in reference to Cunningham this week, who was waived

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: the Texans. The Titans ended up claiming him. I think

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: Jack Cunningham was a good football player, but he was

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01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: also guaranteed ten a half million dollars next year that

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01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: you'd be on the hook for, so you better write

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: that is worth? Is he worth that? No leading tackler

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: in the league last year. I'm just telling you why

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. The question was why they didn't

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: do it. And that's why, all right, if you want

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: to be on the hook for ten a half million

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01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: for Zach Cunningham next year. Question number three social media

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Speaker 1: at stut Winners. I'm demoralized, frustrated and at an all

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Speaker 1: time low as a fan. Can you give me any reason,

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Speaker 1: any at all to believe in this team next year?

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01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: And note the British spelling of demoralized with an S.

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: He's from London. I got nothing off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head right now. My only, my only hope for

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01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: next year, that is next year. I mean, there's nothing

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: right now that gives you confidence that things are gonna

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: be like rosy. Now with that, you get through, get

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: through the season, like figure out what happens, like, get

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: this losing behind you, and I think you'll start feeling

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: hopeful again as we get towards free agency. They have

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Speaker 1: a good cap, you know, hopefully, you know, Trevor, second

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Speaker 1: year player, it's a big job. So that I like,

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Speaker 1: I just contradicted myself. I saip, I flipped, call me flipper, clipper, Flipper, flipper,

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Speaker 1: I'm flipper this week. Um, there is things to hope

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Speaker 1: for a good cap. You have a young quarterback. Um Oh,

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Speaker 1: I still believe in those are the two things. Cap room,

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. Well they did so. They did a wonderful

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Speaker 1: job with that cap room they had last That's where

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: I started with no hope. I was trying to give hope.

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: So if I go down that path, I hope take

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01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: take the cap back because they had a lot of

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: cap room last year and they did nothing with it. Um,

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Speaker 1: So that's not a plus. The plus is the quarterback

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: if you don't ruin um and the ruining him. You know.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Tony before I talked to him,

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Speaker 1: and we were talking about is this David Carr. And

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: the answer to that question is no. And the reason

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01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: it's no is because Trevor Lawrence stands in there and

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: takes him beating and just gets back up and goes

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01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,480
Speaker 1: back and he plays the next play. He's a tough guy.

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01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: And as a defensive rusher, if I saw that that long,

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: that long quarterback standing in the pocket with a big

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01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: target like that, I'd want to blast them too. And

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01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: and he takes a ton of hits and he just

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: keeps getting up and you gotta in it. There's times

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: when he takes those shots and you go, this might

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: be the one. But he keeps getting up and that's

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: a great sign. He's not I think his fundamentals are waning.

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01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: I think his eye level has come down because of

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01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: the shots. I think he's sped up a little bit

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01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,440
Speaker 1: because of being hit. And he doesn't trust his receivers,

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: which has led to all kinds of problems for him.

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: He got fooled on the one interception. Let's be real,

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: they dropped out the end. He didn't see him. Rookie

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: got fooled the deep throw that he was picked. That

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: was a terrible throw, terrible decision. He had Marvin Jones

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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: on the other side. He didn't even look over there.

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: And so there's there's different types of interceptions. Some of

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: them were rookie throws, some of them are just trying

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: to make him play. But through it all, he just

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01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: keeps getting right back up and going up there and

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01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: taking those shots. And that's the best sign of all

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: for him, and that should give the jah War's hope.

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01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: Question number four social media on fire today at Devil

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: x Jaguar. Please someone explain, while we run the ball

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01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: six times in the game we were in until about

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01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, why does this team hate Robinson? What

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01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: do they see and hide? This feels like a nightmare.

1413
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: We have never woke up from Wow intense well I

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: addressed it. I don't. I don't have an answer for you.

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: Behind is in can Cushing protocol? By the way, is

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Speaker 1: m I have for you. I don't know if Urban

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: hates James Robinson or not. Don't have any perspective on that.

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01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: I have not asked urban Meyer about that. I don't

1419
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: understand why they don't run him more um as of late.

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: If it's because of injury, great, um, then why are

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01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: you playing him wait in the game when he's injured. Yeah,

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: that excuse goes out the window. So I don't buy

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01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: that one. Um. But I don't know why, how why

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01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: you don't run the ball? I have no idea. I

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01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: can't answer. It makes no sense to me. Like this

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: is like we heard him answered earlier, and I don't

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01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: buy it. Like it's ten evidence, it's not out of hand,

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: it's nothing. The evidence is there that they don't like

1429
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: James Robinson. Look, if you were in a court of

1430
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: law and you had to convict somebody of not liking

1431
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:56,440
Speaker 1: James Robinson, they'd be guilty. Period. There's too much evidence there. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Let me tell you. If if

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Speaker 1: you're committed to the run it, you've run thirty plays,

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01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: it's ten nothing. You're losing. You've thrown it, you've dropped

1435
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: back the past twenty four times, you've handed it off

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01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: six times. That's eight split. Your run pass ratio is

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: you you're telling me you're committed. You're telling me because

1438
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: the game got a hand. I don't buy it. That's

1439
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: not true. That's just not the facts. Like I don't

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01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: care what it said. It's what I watch and what

1441
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: I see and what I call. That's not the fact

1442
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: is you aren't committed to the run. You're not. And

1443
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: that's okay. They were committed to the run the last

1444
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: time they played Tennessee. Yeah they ran the ball, well

1445
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: they did. How many rushers do they have that game?

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01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: A lot? I mean J Robb went over a hundred

1447
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: yards of that game. Absolutely, dude. Let's see J Robin

1448
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: that game had had uh eighteen carries a hundred forty

1449
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: nine yards. Team Trevor had seven carries, Hi'd had five,

1450
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Agnew had one, So thirteen thirty one. How you should

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: be Another social media question from Twitter today what a

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Speaker 1: place at rate us underscore Joe Hanson. Happy birthday for yesterday, JP.

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01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for a great commentary yesterday, Tony, You're welcome.

1454
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: With very little to be gained winning again this season,

1455
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: why aren't we maximizing the playing time for our rookies

1456
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: to help their development for next season? Hashtag duvall. I

1457
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: don't see Pete on that question anywhere, Tony, because what

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01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: did you do yesterday? JP? I worked here, I mean

1459
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: for you. So he's thanking you for his birthday present

1460
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: for you working on a Sunday. I just said a

1461
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: happy birthday. That's all he said. Was That was it?

1462
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't your birthday? Right? Yeah? It was? It was Yeah,

1463
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: we didn't know that. I did already wish happy birthday.

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01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Pete. I'm not like you know.

1465
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: I know my co workers and what their birthdays. I

1466
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: called them, wish the happy birthday. Good job, Pete, very nice.

1467
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: So what do you is that the right age? No?

1468
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: Actually forty the Big four oh yesterday? Wow? JP's forty

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01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: yep and bsella You're gonna be fifty soon, right, I'll

1470
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: be fifty next day April, Pete. Wow, so you're gonna

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01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: go into Hall as a fifty year old not there yet,

1472
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: but maybe a year old. I like it. Hopefully that'd

1473
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: be good. I think we have one more social media QUI. Well,

1474
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 1: we answered the rest of that earlier tonight. The rookies

1475
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: playing all that, just go and all that at M

1476
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: camp zero one four? Who are we taking in the draft?

1477
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: What are the chances of landing at playmate? You're in

1478
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: free agency? Hashtag? Go Jags, Tony, Who are you taking

1479
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: in the I don't know you love the drunk care

1480
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: right now? Um? Well, what playmakers out there? It's gonna

1481
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: be a free agent. I don't know. Chris Godwin, he's

1482
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: not Pete. We just talked about that. Mike Williams, he's okay,

1483
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: you can't run. He's big, he runs better than that

1484
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: Allen Robbinson does. Yeah, I agree with that. Maybe Mike Williams.

1485
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Well, I gotta draft you gotta

1486
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: draft that speed. That spet needs to be drafted. And

1487
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: Rod Dalmore and Elijah mor say hello from last year?

1488
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: How are they doing? Pete? Um? I just watched the

1489
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Rams on Rams Cardinals game on tape from the first

1490
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: time around. Boy, they got creative with Ron dal Moore,

1491
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: all those Jets sweeps and runs and everything else. How

1492
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: about the night and I know we'll get to Monday

1493
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Night football jps will read no Jalen Ramsey to night. Yeah,

1494
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: covidd got COVID. Yep, that's that's a blow for them. Yeah,

1495
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: big um. We'll come back. Hey, thanks for all the

1496
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: social media submissions. We can only get to six tonight.

1497
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: And if you want to read the rest, go check

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: out Twitter and hit any of our handles and you

1499
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: can read until your heart's content. We're back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: We'll go around the NFL and here's some radio calls

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: from week number fourteen. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the

1502
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour Monday afternoon.

1503
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: J P Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Prisco after a

1504
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: Jaguars lost to the Tennessee Titans in Week fourteen, twenty nil.

1505
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars ran for eight yards in the game. Yesterday we

1506
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 1: have covered that. Let's go around the National Football League

1507
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: and here's some radio calls from some of the games

1508
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: around the league. Thursday, the Vikings over the Steelers thirty

1509
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: six to eight, Tony, You were at that game right

1510
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: Thursday night football. It was It was a crazy game. Yeah,

1511
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: it was all over the place, like the Steelers were

1512
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: getting killed. They couldn't tackled Alvin Cook and he was

1513
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: on pace for like the league record at one yards

1514
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: in one game. Um. He was averaging at one point

1515
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen yards and carry um. And then all of

1516
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, like midway through the third quarter, the Vikings

1517
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: can't help twenty nine nothing, can't help themselves, start throwing

1518
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: interceptions and turn it over and here comes Pittsburgh. Had

1519
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: had the chance to tie it up at the end.

1520
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 1: What were they doing? What were they doing? Her cousins

1521
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: had that glazed look on his face until he had

1522
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: that shot to oz Osborne down the field. You did

1523
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: that game, Tony, Yeah? Did you see Keenan how ain't

1524
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: go on the field beforehand with all the COVID Yeah. Yeah.

1525
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: Elkins over the Panthers yesterday one the Browns over the Ravens.

1526
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett with a fumble return touchdown. Jim Donovan on

1527
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Radio network. Three receivers near side to

1528
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: the left. Brown comes out near side to the left.

1529
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: He's the whitest one out wide to the right in

1530
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: the backfield, Letsavieous Murray Huckley takes the shotgun staff back

1531
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: to pass. Let's the ball got stripped away in the

1532
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: air of the Brown's fight for the ball and it's

1533
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: picked up by Biles Garrett. He's got a score. Touchdown

1534
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: Rellian on the field is a fumble recovered by the

1535
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: deepends cuts down Miles. Garrett hit the ball, it burned

1536
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: it around, he picked it up and then he ran

1537
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: the last fifteen yards win it for a touchdown. Have

1538
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: the Bronx League twenty three to three want to play

1539
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: Pete Garrett the best defensive player in the league this

1540
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: year for you, He's been phenomenal. He's in the conversation,

1541
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. What one quick thing about that game?

1542
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Down nine with eight and a half minutes to go

1543
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: in the game, John Harbor went for two, yeah, to

1544
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: make it a seven point games, So you know what

1545
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: you need. That's what they analytics say. It's like, if

1546
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: you miss it, you're still doing two scores, right, I know,

1547
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: But if you know many times, I think it's been

1548
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: tried like eleven times in the last decade or something,

1549
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: and you know how many teams have won doing that one.

1550
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: It's stupid. You're missing my point. I'm just telling you

1551
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: what I didn't say. I agree with it. I would

1552
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: I would kick the extra point and be down eight,

1553
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to try to win at the end.

1554
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: The whole idea of knowing what you gotta get, well,

1555
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: who can't. What's the difference? You know what you you're

1556
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: gonna have to get the two point at some point,

1557
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: but why not keep it so you can get it

1558
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: later in the game and have a chance to win

1559
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: it as it turned out. By the way, as it

1560
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: turned out, they scored a touchdown and kicked an extra point.

1561
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: Have they kicked the extra point, they would have been

1562
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to go for two and hid. Or

1563
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: if they got the two when they did it, they

1564
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: could extra point with the time it the bottom line,

1565
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing where your argument falls apart, Pete. Either

1566
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: way you need to two point conversion. So what does

1567
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: it matter if you do it right way or after later?

1568
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. If you don't get it, you're done.

1569
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: You're down to you're down nine. No, you're not done.

1570
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: They start a chance with the onside kick My point is,

1571
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: if you don't get if you have a chance, if

1572
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: you don't get the duke point play, then to Pete.

1573
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: If you don't get the two point at the end,

1574
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: you start to kick down inside. You're missing them. Just

1575
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: the math part of it, just math. No, I get

1576
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: the math part. Doesn't matter. You've got to get a

1577
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: two pointers sooner or later. Like I know, I get that.

1578
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: As a journalist, you don't do a lot of math,

1579
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of writing. I know the math. I know

1580
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: the math and that. By the way, all the data

1581
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: says going for two down by nine is not right,

1582
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: that's not true. The analytics say, do it. It gives

1583
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: you a better chance of winning. I just explain to

1584
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: you it's happened. Tell you what the data says. Look

1585
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: at the analytics. I'm not listen. I don't have the

1586
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: algorithm to draw it up for you. Right now. That's

1587
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: what it's at. I was told there would be no math,

1588
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: uh in this Listening to the Seahawks, hard headed Seahawks

1589
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: over the Texans were shot Penny a forty seven yard

1590
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: touchdown run for the Hawks. Steve Rabel of Seahawks Broadcasting

1591
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: with a call second down and seven run by Penny

1592
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: left side, breaks one tackle, first own, he is gone

1593
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: ten five touchdown Seahawks ras shot. Penny breaks in at

1594
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,520
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and takes off for forties seven yards.

1595
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a hundred plus day for the Seahawks, a hundred

1596
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: thirty seven yards for just Rashaan Penny. Neither one of

1597
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 1: these teams had a great record, of course coming in.

1598
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks are now five and eight, and have they kind

1599
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: of figured some things out or they just playing a

1600
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: bad team. Yesterday, Pete, they were playing a bad team.

1601
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 1: But they want a couple in a row, and they

1602
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: still have hope. I mean, they gotta win out basically

1603
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: to get in. But but they're playing bad. Russell Wilson

1604
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: is playing better that since Pete Carroll stormed off the podium,

1605
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: since his finger got there. That's basically what it is.

1606
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: That that helps also Chiefs over the Raiders. Big about

1607
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders dancing on the arrowhead logo in the middle

1608
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: of the field for the game. You can say, and

1609
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: got way, got him going, and then they promptly gave

1610
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: up forty eight to the Chiefs. Mistake. Does that matter? No?

1611
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: But it's a bad, bad It's a bad look. It's

1612
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: a bad look, but had no impact in the game.

1613
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they might have given out forty eight anyway.

1614
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: So the chief the Chiefs still have to look great

1615
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: on offense. Yet think about that they scored forty eight

1616
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: great on offense. He got just playing fantastic cover like

1617
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: a defensive score early in the game. Saints over the

1618
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Jets thirty to nine yesterday, and then the Cowboys against

1619
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Washington a fumble return touchdown for the Dallas Cowboys defense.

1620
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Brad sham on one of five three the fan in

1621
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys radio network to Washington late first quarter

1622
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: at their own empty gun for Heineck, fourth and two

1623
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: back to throw rushan sack back parcels recovered by Dallas.

1624
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: They'll running down the sideline, churnstrong dancels in. That will

1625
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: be a Dallas touchdown. That made an eight team nothing.

1626
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Dallas goes on to win. Yeah, and that's the end

1627
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: of the division. That division is over. Cowboys are in

1628
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And and I'm gonna say this about the

1629
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: Cowboys front man. They get DeMarcus Lawrence back, Randy Gregory

1630
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: is now back, Neville Gallimore's back in the middle of

1631
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: the line. He had a sack, and they can move

1632
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: Parsons all over the place. They're gonna be a handful

1633
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: profitsive lines in the postseason. I agree, Broncos over the

1634
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Lions thirty eight to ten, Chargers over the Giants thirty seven.

1635
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Want to throw by Herbert on that touchdown pass like

1636
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: sixty five in the airs. That throw is the one.

1637
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that should be made in Jacksonville

1638
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Smokes over the Bengals. Three.

1639
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers against the Bills a wild game in Tampa,

1640
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the game winning overtime touchdown Jane dicker If on the

1641
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Bucketeers Radio Network. Godwin wide to the left, Evans wide

1642
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: to the right. Shotgun look with four net on the

1643
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: right hip of Brady. Here's the snap pressure coming from

1644
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the outside. Brady throw pot ball first out of the

1645
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: fifty outside the number sporting tell the thirty yard line.

1646
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Paraman Pushot, Parraman touch doot Tampa by Fox running over

1647
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 1: time Paramon, Paraman, Caraman wild one in Tampa. They're good, Pete,

1648
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: they're running, They're getting you know, this is what they

1649
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: did last year down the stretch. Start playing really good football.

1650
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: And the question now is the Bills are sitting in

1651
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the seventh spot for the house right now. If it

1652
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: ended today, the Bills make the playoffs. Yeah, their schedule

1653
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: is easy. They got New England and three Winnie winnable

1654
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 1: games at home. Jets, Falcons, Panthers. They're in. And one

1655
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: quick thing about Harriman. He was out there available and

1656
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: he can run the Packers over the Bears last night

1657
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: to thirty thank you piece. Monday Night Football. It's a

1658
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: huge game in the NFC West. Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald no,

1659
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Tonight though, and the eight and four Los

1660
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams visit Kyler Murray and the ten and two

1661
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Second meeting of the year. The Cardinals won

1662
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: it back in Week four. Who you got tonight, Tod

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals laying on him. I think the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are better. I think the Cardinals are better too.

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Speaker 1: I think they win that game. And look, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: don't get any respect. Their their third and scoring differential,

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Speaker 1: fourth and total offensive, fourth in total defense, and nobody

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Speaker 1: believes in them. Yeah, we got ten wins. Wow. I

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Speaker 1: think to beat the Rams, I don't think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams will make the playoffs. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna make any noise in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: All right, but you know the Rams, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is still right. Peat correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: We're jp Maybe. No, the Rams have not beaten a

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Speaker 1: team with a winning record this year. Well, they beat

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Speaker 1: the box Box. Sorry, they beat one team with about

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Speaker 1: this Matt staffords and seventeen against teams five games above

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Speaker 1: his career. Wow. Wow, Ye that the old Kirk Cousins thing,

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Speaker 1: like he had issues with teams winning. Yeah. Hey, Pete,

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Speaker 1: fun show today. We'll talk to you next week. You

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Speaker 1: see you, guys, I had fun. You didn't have fun, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I had fun. I'd like to do this after a

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Speaker 1: win though. Let's get some WS for sure, Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, our entire crew, Brent Reaber, Joe Fortunado, I'm J. P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick and we'll catch you next time. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.