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Speaker 2: But speaking of the girl whose birthday just passed, this

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Speaker 3: She put me into Marason to the tap.

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Speaker 4: I keep hearing about this TAPP shit.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of months ago, right, I was trying

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Speaker 5: Serial Is that the one you showed me a picture

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out if he was gay

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Speaker 4: Definitely gay.

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Speaker 5: So I was.

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Speaker 1: So I was talking to her and she was like, well,

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Speaker 1: have you heard of the t APP. I'm like no,

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Speaker 1: She's like, we know that. You go on there and

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Speaker 1: what she painted to me as it's like they'll tell

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he was a killer, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: No for real, one of the people on there, it's

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Speaker 4: Got tom served. Okay. So I'm like, so that's what.

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Speaker 1: It was painted to as painted to me as so

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is such a great app like

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Speaker 2: Just slow down because I want you to get there,

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Speaker 2: but don't act like me. And you did not search

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Speaker 3: We did everybody. We fucking knew his name.

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Speaker 6: He showed us that you're not on it.

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Speaker 3: We are not on that tea app whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: One of our homemianes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was somebody that was on there.

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Speaker 6: I was like, damn, one of our homies is on there.

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Speaker 3: Not for like doing no like foul rapey shit.

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Speaker 6: They just said he keeps cheating on his girlfriend. That

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Speaker 4: But oh that's that's man ship. But go ahead.

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Speaker 2: But yes, once this girl introduced Amarson I to this app,

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Speaker 2: we searched peege I'm searched shopped.

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Speaker 1: We found we didn't find I'm sorry. We searched for you,

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Speaker 1: we didn't find you. I'm sorry, yes, did we because

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Speaker 1: maybe we should double chet.

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Speaker 5: So wait, this app is just for women all over

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Speaker 5: the world. Country.

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Speaker 2: Now you could put a zip code a whole area,

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Speaker 2: like she shares her location with that app, so she

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Speaker 3: It's like dick yell Okay.

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Speaker 6: But it wasn't originally for that.

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Speaker 2: It was it was for the protection of women. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was squeaking clean on that ship and.

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Speaker 7: Anything after this one because we talked about Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: Niggas was getting mad. They're like, what if we did

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Speaker 1: this for women? Ah, y'all did. It was called group chats,

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Speaker 1: but they were just so everything. Everybody was so angry

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Speaker 6: Or he's hairy or his butt stinks like.

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Speaker 1: It was just ship like that.

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Speaker 4: That's what on this app talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and they can give you people can give you

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Speaker 1: There was a huge dady, Yeah, they put a picture

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Speaker 1: So for example, when I sign up a couple months

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Speaker 1: I used my photo.

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Speaker 1: Some people were using their ID and then there was

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Speaker 1: Y'all are fucking stupid for signing up to this app.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, if the app was being used

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Speaker 2: When we were looking on the app with her, all

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Speaker 2: So once that shit, because how long ago do you

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Speaker 3: That she showed U set.

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Speaker 3: Seven years ago?

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Speaker 4: You know that seven?

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Speaker 3: No, but there was a couple top of June. It's okay,

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Speaker 3: you can tell the truth of Michael. I don't care

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were looking at that, I mean, whatever

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Speaker 2: that was the app that Shorty showed us.

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Speaker 5: So is there an app like this for guys, Like

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Speaker 3: We would get arrested if we had an app like that?

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Speaker 2: Why because double standards exist to see if that I

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Speaker 4: But that is so crazy. Women do crazy shit too.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, No, I think men should be able

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, women are get are getting

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Speaker 3: So well, Also the irony t app Yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Also irony of the entire thing because I don't really

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Speaker 2: that was that was the irony of the entire thing

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Speaker 2: But it turned into some gossipy ship like listen, dick

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Speaker 2: YELP was fucked up but at least it was called

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Speaker 2: The t app was really started to help and protect women.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they was wrong for putting me on that app.

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Speaker 2: They said incredible things about you. You remember the things

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Speaker 2: they said about me. No, it's fucked up they put

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Speaker 2: me on. I said, I used the hardy R and

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Speaker 2: tried to do slave cosplay with it. Oh, it's fucked

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Speaker 2: up that everyone found out that you're a huge dick.

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Speaker 3: You're a great lover.

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Speaker 9: Oh guy, Oh my god, how they are you? Poor guy?

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Speaker 9: They said that I do slave cosplay and the only

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Speaker 9: You poor gentlemen. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: I forgot they said that about you, damn and the

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Speaker 5: only thing on dick Yelp I had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, my bad, bro, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Do slave cosplay exactly, Rory, because I'm a history but he.

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Speaker 5: Dresses up like Leonardo DiCaprio Da Django, really in the history.

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Speaker 2: And she didn't realize that if we continued on with it,

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Speaker 5: She didn't let the story go along, all right, please,

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Speaker 5: It starts out bad but it ends in the beauty.

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Speaker 4: It ends with.

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Speaker 6: All right, all right, okay.

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Speaker 4: It ends on.

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Speaker 3: Y'are not about to tell on Dick yelp.

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Speaker 9: If somebody makes up some ship that I'm going slave playing,

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Speaker 9: I can't talk about the ship.

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Speaker 4: It ends on us. That's where it ends on June

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Speaker 4: teeth is when the story is.

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Speaker 7: Shown.

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Speaker 5: You some real startled. No, they didn't see your vision, man,

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Speaker 5: they didn't see your vision. Oh my god, holy ship.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything before we do get to voicemails? Is

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Speaker 6: Anything?

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Speaker 5: Music?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Destiny, Child of Reunion.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, Why because I would have I would have spent

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Speaker 4: I would have You would have sold cat for the

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Speaker 2: After we left recording on Thursday, which the episode came

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, bro, I'm telling you todays I enjoy your

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Speaker 5: Totally forgot it. I didn't know what the hell y'all

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Speaker 2: That was my exact thing, because I'm pessimistic.

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Speaker 4: Whisper again in your life. That's all.

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Speaker 3: Right right great, something like what is beautiful Jordan Rose?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, to be fair, I didn't look at Peach. I

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Speaker 2: People that it's hip hop media, right, and I think

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Speaker 3: I think Jeremy should have been on that list.

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Speaker 2: First of all, if Jeremy drove to Connecticut to get

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Speaker 5: Thought it was because Jeremy was on just incredible that,

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Speaker 5: You know, again, these lists are cool and we're grateful,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I love all that positivity,

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'll start with positivity. Black Boy Max at

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Speaker 2: So I agree with that. The Kai thing is what

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Speaker 5: He's from the Bronx that's hip hop, so it is

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Speaker 5: Ralph Lauren holos hip hop? I mean KYB, But you

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Speaker 2: Based off the standards that Complex did give in the

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Speaker 2: he had, he has those moments and they go far

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think he does an incredible job of taking

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite the opposite. I just don't think Kai,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this ship is great. Is that a hip hop

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Speaker 4: You know, he listen to music on the stream when

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Speaker 3: Mad at Ky being number I'm fine with I love everything.

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Speaker 5: It's not the the you know, the word up magazine

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Speaker 5: and it's not that type of thing, And it's not

446
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Speaker 5: just the source magazine type of hip hop media style anymore.

447
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 4: Things have changed, things are digital.

448
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 5: Streaming is such a huge part of our culture right

449
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 5: now and the way people receive music.

450
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Speaker 4: So I think this is on brand FAKA to be

451
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Speaker 4: number one. I'm not mad at that.

452
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Speaker 5: And I didn't know he was number one until I

453
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 5: think just now, until y'all just told me that.

454
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Speaker 4: I seriously did not look at the rest.

455
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Speaker 5: Of this list, like I don't know who is what

456
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Speaker 5: and where they landed.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I guess based off their criteria.

458
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Speaker 2: Is to your point, the question I want to ask,

459
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Speaker 2: what is hip hop media? Because there should never be

460
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 2: a world where my name is above big boys name

461
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: in hip hop media, power players, ever. But if it's

462
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Speaker 2: off the criteria of what is actually just happening right

463
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: now and how people are finding new ways to revamp

464
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Speaker 2: how people consume things.

465
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Speaker 3: Then I get it. But putting this together is going

466
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Speaker 3: to offend somebody.

467
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Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody's gonna be offended, just like I was offended.

468
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 5: But thank you, Jordan Roose. I appreciate that. What man.

469
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Speaker 6: When Jordan hit me up for a picture and I'm like, what, man,

470
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Speaker 6: what we do now, he was like, it's for the

471
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Speaker 6: hip Hop Power rank his list.

472
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Speaker 3: You didn't even tell us that? How I found out

473
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: on my way to daycare?

474
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Speaker 6: Why would I tell y'all that?

475
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Speaker 1: But I didn't know what number we were? He didn't

476
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Speaker 1: tell me what number we were. He just said that

477
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Speaker 1: he was doing the list. So why would I? I mean,

478
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Speaker 1: I knew we eventually were going to find out what

479
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Speaker 1: number were. I was gonna ask him what number we were,

480
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Speaker 1: So I sent him pictures, Yo, Jordan, I sent you

481
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Speaker 1: two pictures, man. One of them had me in it, yo,

482
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Speaker 1: trying to.

483
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Speaker 4: Figure out why? How fuck you went with.

484
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Speaker 6: The one with just for m all?

485
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Speaker 3: I said in the post stop, I feel like you

486
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Speaker 3: should have been right there.

487
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Speaker 6: You don't have to. That's fine, It's okay. I appreciate that,

488
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Speaker 6: but you don't have to do that.

489
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Speaker 1: All right?

490
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Speaker 4: Baby? What's soup with your girl?

491
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Speaker 9: Ari?

492
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Speaker 4: Man?

493
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Speaker 6: What'd I do?

494
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Speaker 4: What she do?

495
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Speaker 1: I've seen the discourse, the discourse. I've seen the discourse

496
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Speaker 1: that she kind of rob Are you talking about Ari

497
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Speaker 1: Lennox in reference to saying that the jokes about Pam

498
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Speaker 1: were anti black? Yes, okay, I don't think that she's

499
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Speaker 1: being overly sensitive. She's not the first person to ever

500
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Speaker 1: say that that's like been a running like thing. That

501
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Speaker 1: the reason why in a lot of shows back in

502
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Speaker 1: those days and some shows now that the sidekick is

503
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Speaker 1: always a dark skinned woman and she catches a lot

504
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Speaker 1: of jokes. Do I think that people always found Pam

505
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Speaker 1: to be fine?

506
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Speaker 6: Yes?

507
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Speaker 5: But baby d newsflash, Martin joked on everybody on this

508
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Speaker 5: for sure. For sure, even his own even his own

509
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Speaker 5: girlfriend for sure. What are we talking about?

510
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Speaker 6: But she's not.

511
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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I don't want to make

512
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Speaker 1: that a ari think because she's not the first person

513
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Speaker 1: to ever bring that up.

514
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Speaker 4: Okay, but she's the loudest person to bring it up.

515
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Speaker 6: Okay.

516
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Speaker 1: Well, some people think that there are colorism conversations and

517
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Speaker 1: little undersided jokes of like the side the side kick,

518
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Speaker 1: the light skinned girl with the black side kick.

519
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Speaker 5: And does colorism exist in television film Hollywood? Absolutely was

520
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Speaker 5: Martin being a coloriss towards Pam. He never mentioned her

521
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Speaker 5: complexion one time on that show. That's a joke. It

522
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Speaker 5: was always her hair. It was always referring to her

523
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Speaker 5: as being manly, can't find a man, okay, So it

524
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Speaker 5: was never because you're dark skinned?

525
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Speaker 6: Okay.

526
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Speaker 1: So those are all Those are all stereotypes that are

527
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Speaker 1: used with dark skinned women, being being masculine, not being

528
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Speaker 1: able to keep a man, and being nappy headed. Those

529
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Speaker 1: are anti black tropes that are attributed to black to

530
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Speaker 1: dark and black women.

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Speaker 4: He used to talk about Gina's kitchen two and say

532
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Speaker 4: it was big.

533
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Speaker 1: He said her head was because that's a trope against

534
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Speaker 1: light skinned women. Light skin women got big ass heads.

535
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Speaker 1: That's a that's a trope againstlight skinned women that they

536
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Speaker 1: got big four heads. So so everything, that's the moment

537
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Speaker 1: you started naming those things. Those are all anti black women,

538
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Speaker 1: anti dark skin woman sentiments. So he doesn't have to

539
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Speaker 1: mention her color. But those are all things that society

540
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Speaker 1: has attributed to dark skinned women. Are you see what

541
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Speaker 1: I'm saying? So I do get that everybody knew Pam

542
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Speaker 1: was fine, Like everybody well, if you knew, you knew.

543
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Speaker 1: But back in those days, light skinned women were herold

544
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Speaker 1: did as the thing like you need the light skinned

545
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Speaker 1: wife or the light skinned girlfriend, and then you got

546
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Speaker 1: the dark skin side chick. And I'm gonna call her

547
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Speaker 1: nappy headed manly and say she can't keep a man.

548
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Speaker 1: She's not pulling that out of her ass like, that's

549
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Speaker 1: not something she pulled out of her.

550
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Speaker 6: She's not the first person to say that.

551
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Speaker 5: I can see what was the complexion of miss Claire

552
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Speaker 5: Huxtable on The Cosby Show.

553
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Speaker 6: She was bro skin.

554
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Speaker 4: But that's also Jamie Foxx.

555
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Speaker 3: Well.

556
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Speaker 1: First of all, she Claire Huxtable is my color. She

557
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Speaker 1: bare she barely brown? Is that barely Brownnold is your complexion.

558
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Speaker 1: She is a little bit dark.

559
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Speaker 4: Arnold is your complexion.

560
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Speaker 6: It's a little bit darker than me.

561
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Speaker 4: Arnold is your complex.

562
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Speaker 6: Okay, we can agree to disagree your.

563
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Speaker 5: Complain, but yeah, what I'm saying is brownskinned women.

564
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Speaker 4: The first mom in Fresh Prince.

565
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Speaker 1: Was a brown skin and they got rid of her

566
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Speaker 1: and got replaced with a skin.

567
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Speaker 4: Which was the craziest move.

568
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Speaker 5: But I'm saying the original character was casted as a

569
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Speaker 5: brownskin black woman. I'm just again this victim mentality thing.

570
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Speaker 5: We got to move past it because if we just

571
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Speaker 5: look at the landscape, black women, brownskin women have been

572
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Speaker 5: represented on every level for years.

573
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Speaker 4: They have.

574
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Speaker 5: Now you can point out instances where maybe and that's cool,

575
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 5: but it's like, okay, but maybe just this actress was

576
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Speaker 5: better than the brownskin actress and that's why she was

577
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Speaker 5: casted here or not.

578
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Speaker 6: What happened with Fresh Prince then they all came out.

579
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm not told about Fresh Prince specific.

580
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying the original mom in Fresh Prince was

581
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Speaker 5: casted as a brownskin black woman.

582
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Speaker 4: Correct.

583
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Speaker 5: So again, when they made a change, of course, it

584
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 5: was weird. We all recognized that that was crazy. It

585
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Speaker 5: was like, y'all couldn't even go cast another brown like

586
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 5: a brown skin, darker skinned woman that y'all got a

587
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Speaker 5: lighter skinned woman like to not even try to, like,

588
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 5: you know, kind of fool us a little bit. Y'all

589
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 5: just completely just made a shit. Okay, cool, But what

590
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Speaker 5: I'm saying is brownskinned women have always been represented in television.

591
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Speaker 5: When you go back to Good Times, all of these shows, Like, so,

592
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Speaker 5: my thing is, how do we get to a first

593
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Speaker 5: of all comedy number one where jokes is gonna be cracked?

594
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Speaker 5: That's number one, Martin. It's not like Martin is a

595
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Speaker 5: white man playing this role and he's cracking on his

596
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 5: wife's best friend, who's a brown skinned woman. He's a

597
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: black man, but he's cracking on everybody. Yes, all of

598
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Speaker 5: his friends got it. They all anytime they walk through

599
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 5: the door. It's jokes. We can't turn this into yo.

600
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Speaker 5: This was It made me feel a way and we

601
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Speaker 5: all laughed. We all still laugh.

602
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Speaker 4: Nobody.

603
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: Have you ever want you? I'm just talking about you.

604
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: Never mind with the intern of the saying. Have you

605
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 5: ever once watched Martin and felt like what he said

606
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Speaker 5: depend was appropriate?

607
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 6: Not as far as being inappropriate?

608
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Speaker 1: No, but I'm very aware of tropes against black women,

609
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: but we all are.

610
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about this specific Martin.

611
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Speaker 5: The show with Martin and Pam's and Pam's character on

612
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 5: his character, Maam, did you ever watch that and feel like, yo,

613
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: he kind of going crazy on Pam?

614
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: No, and it's only because she dars skinned. It's not

615
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: about that. It's about he would the things that he

616
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Speaker 1: said to Pam. Even if he wasn't in a if

617
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Speaker 1: the actresses were switched and Gina was somehow the best friend,

618
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Speaker 1: or that Gina had another light skinned best friend, the

619
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Speaker 1: jokes would not have been that they were mainly can't

620
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Speaker 1: keep a man in nap beheaded? Those would not have

621
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Speaker 1: been the jokes. They would have still got joked on,

622
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: but those wouldn't have been the jokes.

623
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Speaker 4: But he's made nappyheaded jokes about Gina before.

624
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Speaker 1: She might have said something about like, oh, like you

625
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: need to straighten your hair or something like there's something

626
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: like that. But even that in itself is anti black.

627
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Just because he's saying it to a light skinned woman,

628
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: it's still anti black women. Like making comments about black

629
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: women's hair is anti black. Now, I'm not vilifying Mark

630
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: because that we we're much more aware of these things

631
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: these days. But just because nobody was talking about it

632
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: back then doesn't mean that people can't look back and

633
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: peep it. We look back on old TV shows all

634
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: the time and peep shit that was like, Oh, that

635
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: was a little crazy. Doesn't mean anybody deserves to be

636
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: canceled or anything like that. No, but Ari just came

637
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: out and said that she felt some type of way

638
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: about that because those are anti black women tropes.

639
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 6: There's nothing really it.

640
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Speaker 5: Makes sense if that's coming from somebody who's not a

641
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Speaker 5: black man.

642
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: But that's like saying black people can't be colorless. Then

643
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: that's not true because we're we're the worst at it.

644
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 6: White people. It's just you, you a nigga, I'm tetting

645
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: dark skin you.

646
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Speaker 5: I'm talking very specific to Martin Lawrence here, But because

647
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: we know that he wrote on the show, we know

648
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: that a lot of it was improv we know that

649
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: a lot of it was him throwing his comedy into it.

650
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: So do we think that Martin Lawrence is a colorist,

651
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: because that's what we would be saying here.

652
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Speaker 1: I think that throughout I think that throughout the it's not.

653
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's as black as black and white

654
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: as that. I think that colorism has been so embedded

655
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: in our society that somebody might not be a bad

656
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: person for having for contributing stereotypes to different colors and

657
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: different shades of black, because that's just so embedded in

658
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: our society. The same way that dark skinned women are

659
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: automatically labeled as aggressive more aggressive, and white skinned women

660
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: are labeled as softer, even if no one says it

661
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: out loud, this has been a societal thing for forever.

662
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 6: It's embedded in society.

663
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Speaker 1: It's an automatic thought, and unless you're super hyper aware

664
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Speaker 1: of the things that you're thinking in the way that

665
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: you're moving, you wouldn't even know because it's just always

666
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: been like that.

667
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 6: So I understand what Ari is saying.

668
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's specific to Martin, and I didn't

669
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: get offended by what was going on.

670
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: In I don't think nobody has everything.

671
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: That's but like I said, she's not the first person

672
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: to bring that up about Martin.

673
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 6: There is nothing.

674
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: There is nothing manly about Tashina Arnold, nothing manly about her.

675
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: That's why it's called a joke. Yeah, but this is

676
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: the thing. Why would that joke even be made?

677
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 5: But because that's his best, that's his girlfriend's best, that's

678
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: what you're supposed to do.

679
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: He was light skinned, he would never have called her.

680
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: But you're not doing that. But that's just what it is.

681
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 5: That's not what it is. That's what they're trying. That's

682
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 5: what they're trying to make it. That's what is trying

683
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: to make it and paint it as. But that's not

684
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: what it is. Like that, and that's what the victim

685
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: mentality ship it has to. We can't we can't do

686
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 5: that to Marrow, Lawrence and and and and the legendary

687
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: show that is Martin. We cannot do that because we

688
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: know that that's not what it was, and that's not.

689
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: How do you know that though that's what I'm saying.

690
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: You said, you know, how do you know that the marriage.

691
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: We've watched this show.

692
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: It's been syndicated reruns for years, it's on Netflix.

693
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: Nobody has ever watched it and said, yo, I ain't

694
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: gonna lie.

695
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: He going crazy on Pam And it's only because she

696
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: she brown.

697
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 6: Skin, But that's because you weren't.

698
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: You weren't really looking for it, and you wouldn't be

699
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: the victim in that like you wouldn't be.

700
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: The That don't mean I can't see the victim and

701
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: know that it's some some colorism shit is going on

702
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: because I'm not the victim.

703
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that show came out years ago.

704
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: First of all, we can end this conversation because we're

705
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: not gonna agree, then that's fine. But I just think that,

706
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: like I said, nobody's calling Martin.

707
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 6: I don't.

708
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not calling Martin a bad person. I just

709
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: think that again, colorism is so embedded in our society

710
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: that half the time we don't even notice it when

711
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: it pops up.

712
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: And I also think that colorism is so embedded in

713
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 5: our society that we call something colorism when it's not.

714
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: Okay, That's what I think.

715
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: I think that is so throughout history, Black Throughout history,

716
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: darker skin, darker brown, and darker skinned women have been

717
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: labeled as ugly, as manly and aggressive and nappy headed.

718
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: Those are all colorists tropes.

719
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: So if they pop up in jokes back in the day, yeah,

720
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: the same way niggas used to call darker skinned people

721
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: African booty scratchers. These things were real, like this, this happened,

722
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: but back in the day we were not as sensitive

723
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: to it. But that doesn't make it like less real.

724
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Light skin girls have always been labeled as prettier and

725
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: more attractive and softer.

726
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 6: That's real. They have studies on shit like that.

727
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: That is real.

728
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying here in this instance,

729
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: it's not real. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that.

730
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that you think that Martin Lawrence in

731
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: the nineties and the nineties, you think that he was

732
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: above being affected by society's tropes. You think that he

733
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: was just way but beyond that, you don't think that

734
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: society affected him in his writing at all.

735
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: I'm not going to stay at all. No, I don't

736
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: think him no the same. First of all, have seen

737
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: the Auto and Tisha Campbell are like best friends of

738
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: real life. They've done multiple movies together, so like they

739
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 5: were cast it probably because they have a history, Like

740
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: I think mar I think they've all done movies before

741
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: this together when they were all in the same movie.

742
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: So do you think it's possible that the same person

743
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: that has a stereotypical trope on his show named Shane,

744
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: is that her name?

745
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: You don't think that.

746
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: That person.

747
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: Who created that character is capable of having a little

748
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: bit of.

749
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 5: Colorism in their jokes even purpose I'm not saying he's

750
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: not capable of having colors jokes. I'm saying I don't

751
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: think that that was Martin's point and that was his

752
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: thought process.

753
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't think so either.

754
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so either, because what I'm saying is

755
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: it's embedded.

756
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 6: Sometimes we do.

757
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes we have stereotypes in our head that because we

758
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: were raised on it, we don't even think about it.

759
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: It's not us intentionally being racist or being colorists or anything.

760
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: These are things that this was the way the world

761
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: was when we were raised. So there's some things we

762
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: just don't think about. I don't think he was intentionally

763
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: trying to be harmful because she was dark skinned I

764
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: think those were automatically the jokes he went to because

765
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: that's what people have always said about dark skinned women.

766
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: It's the easy, low hanging fruit, That's what I'm saying.

767
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 6: But again, we don't have to we can agree to disagree.

768
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I understand people's point in saying that, you know there

769
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: can be a victim mentality with that, And I also

770
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: understand ours point because he's not the first dark skinned

771
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: girl to have ever said that. She's not the first

772
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: person to bring up the fact that there was obviously

773
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: a clear difference in between the light skin girl and

774
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: the dark skinned girl on that show.

775
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 6: And also, I think if you ask the actors and

776
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 6: the actresses.

777
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Even though they're all cool with each other, and the writers,

778
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: I think they can understand where those tropes come from too,

779
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: because I'm sure they've experienced that in Hollywood.

780
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: I would love to hear from Tshina Arnold about that.

781
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to hear from her too. I

782
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: doubt she'd speak on it, but she would speak on it.

783
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't she.

784
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 5: I think she would put it to bed very quickly, like, no,

785
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 5: that's not what the energy was. I never once felt

786
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: like that. I think if to Sina Arnold felt like

787
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: that slightly, that would have disappeared.

788
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: From But again, I don't think that he was doing

789
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: it intentionally.

790
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 4: Or whether he was or he wasn't.

791
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 5: I'm saying if she felt like that at some point

792
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: in the whole Martin world, she would have said something

793
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 5: to writer.

794
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: She would have come out and said it. We would

795
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: have heard her talk about it. Now that years.

796
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: Passed, the show is over, I'm sure she would have

797
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 5: said something about it, And maybe she did. I could

798
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: be ignorant to and never saw her speak about it.

799
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying I've never seen it.

800
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: I've never heard it.

801
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: The first time I've ever hearing anybody speak about their

802
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: character's dynamics and saying, you know, bring the whole colorism

803
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 5: thing and you know this state of third I just

804
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: think that victim mentality is real. Colorism is real, and

805
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 5: I think we just got to find the spots where

806
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 5: we know for sure that's what that is. But if

807
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 5: it's not, which I don't think Martin is. I don't

808
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: think that was a colorism thing. I don't think that

809
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 5: that was on his mind. I don't think that was

810
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: a part of the energy of the show. I just

811
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: think that was the best friend of my girlfriend, and

812
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: you know, you know how the relationships are with your girl,

813
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: your best friend's boyfriends, Like he don't like you, You

814
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: don't like him.

815
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 4: You don't think he's good enough for your girl.

816
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: He think that you're the single friend who will be

817
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: trying to have her out in the face of other

818
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: guys and think it's that dynamic. You come in the crib,

819
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: It's like, yo, what you what's up? What you want?

820
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: Like, I don't think it was because she was brown

821
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: skin Like, I just don't. I don't. I don't get

822
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: that yet.

823
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: You said that you obviously dealt with the MLB world.

824
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: How has your husband been dealing with the wrestling world.

825
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 10: At first, he didn't want me to do it at all,

826
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 10: like at all. It was just like even my mom

827
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 10: was like, why.

828
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: Do you want to do that?

829
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 8: You want to hurt yourself? Go model, go do something.

830
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: A mom don't understand, like why.

831
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 10: Would you want to You got to hurt yourself. And

832
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 10: I'm like, don't put that energy out there. I'm not

833
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 10: going to hurt myself. Yeah, there's something else you could do.

834
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 10: Why did you want to do that? My mom didn't understand.

835
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 10: He was more so like for what, Like, you know,

836
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 10: I met him when I was twenty two. I wanted

837
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 10: to be a child psychologist.

838
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 8: I did that.

839
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 10: He was just like.

840
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: Why Yeah.

841
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 10: So then I went to the triad and it all went great,

842
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 10: and then he was like, oh, this is about to

843
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 10: get real. I said, yeah, it's about to get real.

844
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 10: This is what I'm going to do. But he didn't

845
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 10: want me to do it at all. And now he's

846
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 10: seen how much work that I've put in.

847
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 8: He's proud of me.

848
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 10: He's like, oh my, oh my gosh, I'm so happy

849
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 10: you stuck with it like I would have never thought you.

850
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: Look at the change in emotion yoa doing.

851
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: And then once wife be about to become champion, like listen,

852
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 5: I'm proud you know.

853
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: Inside and.

854
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 8: Mess up your body. I want you to retire with me,

855
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 8: like what are you doing?

856
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 10: And I'm like, I think what you did was great,

857
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 10: but I want to do something for myself, like I

858
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 10: think I can do this. I can do the child

859
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 10: psychology thing when I'm done with this, if I ever

860
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 10: choose to.

861
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 8: But I want to.

862
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 10: Create something that's legendary for our daughter, Like I want

863
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 10: my daughter to say, oh my dad did this, but

864
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 10: I want her to say, but my mom, my mom

865
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 10: did this.

866
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 8: And that's inspiring to me.

867
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 10: So he has his career, it's it's different now because

868
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 10: he's like to stay at home dad, and now I'm

869
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 10: the one always gone. So it's a literally upside down

870
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 10: world now.

871
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: With you again speaking speaking it intil existing with you

872
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: being champion. What does what do you hope that does

873
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: for the little black girls in Florida, New York, California,

874
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 5: just as far as like representing something for them to

875
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: look forward to, say, like she represents greatness, she represents strength.

876
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 5: Storm Is in the studio, it was literally storming. But

877
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 5: what do you what do you? What do you think about?

878
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: Or do you think about those little girls that at

879
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: home looking at Jade this weekend?

880
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: I do.

881
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 10: And it's such a fine line with me because I'm

882
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 10: not for kids, like being very real, I'm not for kids.

883
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 10: I'm sexy, I curse, I'm grown, I'm not. I'm just not.

884
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 10: But I do love to hear that I am an

885
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 10: inspiration for little girls who see me.

886
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 8: They're like, oh, I love how you look.

887
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 10: Your confidence radiates all this kind of stuff, like I

888
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 10: want to be like you.

889
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 6: I love it.

890
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 8: Never. I never wanted it.

891
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I love inspiring little girls that you can

892
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 10: do any and everything with your mind too. I started

893
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 10: this at twenty seven and for a lot of people

894
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 10: that can be late, but I was like, you know what,

895
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give this a shot. I'm gonna give them all.

896
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 10: Let's see who we are. Look where I am now.

897
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 10: And we had somebody like Jazz and Jacqueline who did

898
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 10: these phenomenal things for me and Biyonka and Naomi.

899
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: I want I want you to catch close up, Jerry.

900
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 10: It's great that people see us like these little girls

901
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 10: see us and they know like I can do that,

902
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 10: but yeah, I can do it better, because that's what

903
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 10: we want them to say.

904
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 8: Just as much as Jazz we looked at Jazz, we

905
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 8: looked at.

906
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 10: Jacqueline, We're like, I want to do that, but I

907
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 10: can do better. I can reach there, and now they

908
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 10: can reach there and the next generation can reach there.

909
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 10: That's all we want to do, create bigger footprints for

910
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 10: the next generation.

911
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: Now you have a daughter I do.

912
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: Would you be happy if she told you, Mom, I

913
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: want to wrestle as a parent right that face?

914
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: Like, how does that?

915
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 9: You know?

916
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: Because now you're your mom now, right, like you do

917
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 5: you say okay and just kind of like cringe on

918
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 5: the inside, but still like, obviously you want her to

919
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 5: do what she wants to do and succeed.

920
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 10: She's getting a great education first, okay, something she could

921
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 10: fall back on, a trade something first, right, and then

922
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 10: if she wants to pursue wrestling, go at it. I'm

923
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 10: a very supportive mom. I'm like, go at it. I'll

924
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 10: tell her if she's not good or whatever you want

925
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 10: to call it, like, okay, well, let's use that trade.

926
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 10: But as long as she gets a phenomenal education, something

927
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 10: that steady that she can always go back to, I'm

928
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 10: okay with it. I'm okay with it.

929
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think the way Braun did it with

930
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: his son, I think you might have to do.

931
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: That mother daughter in the league at the same time. Listen,

932
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: that would be nothing.

933
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 8: I'm okay, that.

934
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: Would be a crazy You can hold that idea.

935
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 8: You have that one she wanted to start like seventeen.

936
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, get right to it.

937
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 10: Man. It's called a bump card, and it goes up

938
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 10: and your body you feel you're twenty two, you'll feel

939
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 10: like you're like thirty five.

940
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's crazy. It feels really quick.

941
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 5: So you obviously I feel like this weekend again, Jade

942
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: will be champion Rory. She already said that she will

943
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: bring the title back. Yes, now, Jade, if Rory and

944
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: myself wanted to get into wrestling, like what would we

945
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 5: have to you know.

946
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 10: Like we have somebody back there, it's like no, because

947
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 10: you know baby d just you know she she mean,

948
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 10: she don't believe in our abilities and she don't think

949
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 10: that we could do it.

950
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: But if me and she gives Bianca, I'll say that, yeah,

951
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: like she's definitely. But like if me and Roy wanted

952
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: to be tag team champions, well yeah, pause that like

953
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: what do we how do we prepare ourselves?

954
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Like how do we you know, like what is our

955
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 4: first order of business?

956
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 8: Going to the PC?

957
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: What is the PC?

958
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 10: It's down Orlando.

959
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 8: It's a training facility, so.

960
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: We have to train. So what was that about a month?

961
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: We have to train? Yeah, Like I'm thinking we could go.

962
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 5: We can pull up Sunday with Jade bro Like we

963
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 5: can go Sunday and kick some.

964
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 10: Asks signed some liability for him.

965
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: In case you died? Yeah, oh you die?

966
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: Got it?

967
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

968
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 10: Okay, Yes, it's a lot of things. Okay, okay, yes,

969
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 10: but train, like getting your mind ready. It's not that easy.

970
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 10: It's really not. All these celebrities that come into they

971
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 10: are all training. It's not just walking into the system.

972
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 10: I don't know what the internet.

973
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: Paints, but they like two, three, four months.

974
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 8: Initially, Oh right, oh you guys.

975
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we would need four game years.

976
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: I know.

977
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 10: So when I work with Daniel Bryant, he was telling me, like,

978
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 10: you don't get comfortable until like seven years, Like he

979
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 10: didn't get comfortable until seven years. And I'm four years

980
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 10: and a little bit of change into the game. And

981
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 10: my first match ever was on national TV. So it's

982
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 10: such a weird thing because most people before they get

983
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 10: on TV, they've had a plethora of matches. I didn't

984
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 10: like the world see me as raw as you can

985
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 10: get someone.

986
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 8: So it would take a while.

987
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 6: It would take a while.

988
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 10: But it depends on how athletic you guys like. It

989
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 10: depends on how you.

990
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 8: Got that back to the.

991
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: Tobos still clicking.

992
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: I can still know that three yeah.

993
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: Other than that, I can't do that.

994
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: At one point I was but I have a two

995
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: year old.

996
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: I got dad, Wait, I need I need a decade

997
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: I need a decade for sure. A decade absolutely at

998
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: this point. I mean, at least I chased her. My

999
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: cardial is gret because I chased a two year old

1000
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: old time. But the windows up, I'd very much be

1001
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: easily super left. You'll just put it that way.

1002
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 8: Okay, you'll take the super lex, not give it.

1003
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: That the wrestling fans gonna kill me on the YouTube comments.

1004
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.

1005
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: But with that said, I wasn't even thinking training. I

1006
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: was more thinking, if we come up with a good name,

1007
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: is that even worth going to Orlando?

1008
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: If we don't have the brand together already, why would

1009
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: I even train?

1010
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: That comes second?

1011
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: Oh so branding comes after training?

1012
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, that's how you do at the PC.

1013
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 10: You can come up with stuff, but on the side,

1014
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 10: they can have you on the side, but it's it's

1015
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 10: your ring of ability as well as.

1016
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Coming to that full costume. You know, like the guy

1017
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: that shows up to the court with all that has

1018
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: been what are you going to do?

1019
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 8: What are you gonna do?

1020
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: Get supplexed.

1021
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 10: I'm trying to like whatever unless as your character to

1022
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 10: get suplex to just come out supplex I mean, I

1023
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 10: know the Kool Aid managers jumps through.

1024
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: N That shit hurt too much. Man, I don't supplex.

1025
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: Me being the kool aid man. Jumping through would just

1026
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: being a rag doll wrestling. If you give me the

1027
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: right check, I would do it. Prices and I'm fine

1028
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: with it.

1029
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're paid a lot of money. You're paid a

1030
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 8: lot of money.

1031
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: Do you roll me into the second? Throw me on

1032
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: the west side? Gun Jay?

1033
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 5: Do you use any of your I guess your psychology.

1034
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: Do you use that in your matches at all? Like

1035
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 5: does that brain clicking during your matches?

1036
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 10: Just controlling the match, like just trying to stay calm

1037
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 10: throughout the match, taking my techniques and breathing and things

1038
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 10: of that sort. Because when I was a child psychologist,

1039
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 10: I would have to breathe with my kids because they

1040
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 10: would get so worked up in situations. And sometimes you

1041
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 10: have to think like a kid, and you have to

1042
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 10: because when you're doing something, it's like, you know, jittery,

1043
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 10: like and anxiety and you're it. You have to calm down.

1044
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 10: So I would use breathing techniques, But for the most part, no,

1045
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 10: unless it's a kid out there, but all of us

1046
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 10: are adults. Like I'm gonna talk to you like an adult, I.

1047
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: Guess, or that shit way to ship talk.

1048
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just good at that.

1049
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: That's a degree for you.

1050
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, but that's that's something totally different. I was gentle

1051
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 10: with people. I talked ship. It's a it's a different

1052
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 10: I can mine and mess with you mentally, but it's

1053
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 10: a whole different type of game, whole different type of game.

1054
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 5: Can we make your playlist to listen to on the

1055
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: way to the event, Like, can we put together you

1056
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: already told us who you like to listen to?

1057
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: Can we come up like Rory and I come up

1058
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: with a whole song.

1059
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 8: That you right now off the head?

1060
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say, just walk out with Nukie

1061
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: Buck just like this, if you bring back.

1062
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 10: To two thousand and five, guys, I love Nugget today.

1063
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: I see I see your Jamaica nails. How can we

1064
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: get Vibes Cartel to walk out with you?

1065
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 10: I don't know that would be but I feel like, listen,

1066
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 10: I would love that, especially for my country.

1067
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: I don't think the star tripp and if you see

1068
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: you losing, he might start tripping.

1069
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 10: Fan base would sit and be like, who is this guy?

1070
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 8: And that would like just to me.

1071
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: That would be cool, Like I think that was cool

1072
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: with bringing that culture into wrestling, like that makes you

1073
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: so unique of I've even seen like what like West

1074
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: Side Gun and Diza and Wile and everyone have done

1075
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: with hip hop and.

1076
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: Wrestling, like where dance hall can't do the same.

1077
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 8: It gets weird. It's weird.

1078
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 10: It's a very like wrestling. Wrestling fans are very hard.

1079
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 10: I wouldn't say they're hard to please, but they like

1080
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 10: their community.

1081
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: First of all, he said, spit on me, step on

1082
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: my Yeah, their heart. The police, they're they're very.

1083
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 9: Hard.

1084
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: Step on my face.

1085
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 3: That's a hard person of police.

1086
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: They're not after him. How do you follow that? I

1087
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: just want to be like his two people down.

1088
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 8: I was like, are you watching this?

1089
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: You know?

1090
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 10: Like I to grab me though, so it's like it's

1091
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 10: the dad probably like yeah, go up there and like

1092
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 10: grab her.

1093
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: I've had a little boy grab me before, which I'm like, lucky.

1094
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: When your child psychologists back to talk to the damn.

1095
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: I was like, you're raising a demon?

1096
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 4: What the fuck is wrong?

1097
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 8: She looked at me like yeah, he.

1098
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: Waited for that.

1099
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1100
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: Did you pick your walkout song yet or do they

1101
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: pick it for you?

1102
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 9: No?

1103
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 10: I picked my walkout song what song you walking out to?

1104
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 10: You mean like this weekend? No, my theme song. It's

1105
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 10: always your theme song, and.

1106
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: You should walk out the Shook Ones. Mom d.

1107
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 3: She was mad at.

1108
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: Shook. It's one of the greatest. It's one of the greatest.

1109
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the greatest songs of all time.

1110
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 5: Like you, life would erupt. I'm just I'm just picturing Jay.

1111
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 4: Want me that. I don't know the song so Shook Ones.

1112
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: It's one of the greatest rap songs.

1113
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 8: Found that part two. I don't know the song.

1114
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: I love it.

1115
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: You know this song, Jade, she's from Florida.

1116
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: Remember that. You know this song? Everybody knows the song.

1117
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 8: No, I feel like I know this b.

1118
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, that's way too calm.

1119
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what life? Let me put the scenario.

1120
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 5: Jane's standing there with the head looking the illustrious, the shoulders,

1121
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: everything tricepts is glittering and and and mob Shook Ones.

1122
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 4: Come on, are you kidding me?

1123
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: Y'all? Y'all?

1124
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: Seventy percent chance of rain with Shook.

1125
00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 5: One the Super Bowl. It's gonna actually rain while.

1126
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 10: Down look into it, But I will I need a

1127
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 10: nasty electric guitar. That's I just I'm an electric guitar person.

1128
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 8: I am legend.

1129
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 10: In the beat, but I need I need a good

1130
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 10: I just that's my thing. Like, that's just my thing.

1131
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 10: I love an electric guitar. I don't know, I just

1132
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 10: I love it. So if you can give me something

1133
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 10: on electric.

1134
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: You can probably come out to Welcome to the Jungle

1135
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: something like that.

1136
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 5: I'm coming theme song, respect to your theme song. I'm

1137
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 5: just saying, if it's raining standing here this stadium and

1138
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: shook Ones come on and you just standing at the top.

1139
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 8: Of the rep hands out, hair flowing, triple H will.

1140
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 4: Come out and kiss your feet. He's gonna be like,

1141
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what you just did, but we cracked

1142
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: the cold. We cracked.

1143
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 8: Let me if I get them to buy it, we'll

1144
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 8: see how it goes.

1145
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 4: Trip Waights, Well, he's I think he listens to rap.

1146
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 4: I think he listens.

1147
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 8: He listens to everything.

1148
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 4: He knows shook One's mob deep.

1149
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 5: I guarantee if you if you say that, he's gonna

1150
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: look at you, like what you know about that?

1151
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 10: Okay, we'll see I'm gonna go out. He's like, okay,

1152
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 10: we'll look at that.

1153
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: That's gonna be the most incredible one. Of the most

1154
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: incredible moments that happened is.

1155
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 8: That you guys say I made that happen.

1156
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: Let's see if you if he can buy in the

1157
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: next twenty four hours, I will call Havoc and he

1158
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: will rap it, rap it.

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00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: Had some sleep, absolutely