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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you

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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I am Richard Wineger.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're having a

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Speaker 2: nice day. What's going on? Let's see. This morning I

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Speaker 2: went to the doctor, you know, for just a general

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Speaker 2: check up, and he told me that he has a podcast.

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Speaker 2: This was unprompted and of his little shocking for me.

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Speaker 2: So I just thought i'd let you know that there

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Speaker 2: be naming the doctor or the podcast. He's not getting

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Speaker 2: any advertising here. We have to move on. I'm today's guests.

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Speaker 2: I could not be more thrilled. One of the absolute funniest,

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Speaker 2: none other than Cola Scola Cole high Bridger. Welcome to.

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Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. How are you? I'm great? I

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Speaker 2: just I'm sorry about the mole.

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Speaker 3: The I was listening to your doctor's podcasts and today's

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Speaker 3: topic was your mole.

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Speaker 2: Right, and it doesn't look like things are. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be an issue, right, he said, it's not cancerous,

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Speaker 2: but it is ugly, right and kind of just an

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Speaker 2: unremovable It's just something I have to live with at

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't obviously realize he was recording at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sounded like you were doing a

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Speaker 2: This is Bridger. Well, when somebody that, when somebody tells

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Speaker 2: me to do something, I just kind of followed directions

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Speaker 2: I got at the doctor's office to cause trouble, right right,

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Speaker 2: right right. You're from Utah, right, And he's a medical

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Speaker 2: my throat or what have you. Yes, and I trust him.

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Speaker 2: I've seen him three times now, so that's enough. There's

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Speaker 2: the charm. Yeah, RTA, and I know you know he's

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Speaker 2: taken some sort of oath. Mm hmmm, I had had listen.

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Speaker 2: I actually had a very stressful time on my way

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Speaker 2: to the doctor. There was the world's longest train stopping.

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Speaker 2: There was a train that truly was bisecting Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Oh ye, So you're in your car and then you're

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Speaker 3: Wait, so you were your neck and neck, you're racing

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Speaker 3: the train, get around your neck and neck, and you

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Speaker 2: Right, Only to be secretly recording this kind of personal issue,

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Speaker 2: this mole that I've been living with through the pandemic worryings.

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Speaker 2: Just am I going to be having this hideous thing

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Speaker 3: You don't, you have to dwell, you have to live

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Speaker 3: I always, ever since I was a child, everything's been

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Speaker 3: doing this myself? So instead I've been watching a lecture

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Speaker 3: The Great Courses Plus. Do they st this podcast?

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Speaker 3: And that is it took me, you know, twelve hours

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Speaker 2: Or you know anthrax.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is I didn't realize is like a naturally

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Speaker 2: Right, It was so so much to me, like an

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Speaker 2: I feel like maybe. And the reason associate anthrax with

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Speaker 3: Some people slash themselves with urine. Okay, they thought, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, not unknown, but from williams Sonoma. I had

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You should open it, and then I'll explain. I

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Speaker 3: But once once you open it, I can explain and

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Speaker 2: And keep going, keep right, I'm not gonna I'm going

434
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: to keep my eyes away from the box until.

435
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: It completely opened, kind of do it.

436
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: Doing my best to keep it a complete surprise. Oh

437
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: my god.

438
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a beautiful waffle maker.

439
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, a vertical waffle.

440
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: Maker, which a vertical waffle maker I'm not even familiar with. Well,

441
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: the reason that I got it for you is because

442
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: I've been having this recurring nightmare of you making waffles

443
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: and just getting waffle batter everywhere because it's hard with

444
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: a regular waffle iron. You pour the batter on and

445
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: it usually spills over the sides. Yes, And I just

446
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: I keep waking up in a cold sweat because I'm

447
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: I just see you just waffle batter everywhere, just a disaster,

448
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: and you're cleaning it up and then the waffle's burning

449
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: and like you know, it happened once, and I thought, oh,

450
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: that's a weird dream. Sure after six years pretty consistently

451
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: every night of dreaming, and I've known you, like what

452
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: three right? So yeah, and I was probably a kind

453
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 3: of a stranger in a dream initially. Yeah, absolutely, I

454
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: was like, well, that's weird.

455
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: Why would I dream about that? Just yeah?

456
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 3: So I found this on the Williams Norma website. It's

457
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: a vertical waffle maker. You pour the batter in on

458
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: top so that it doesn't spill out the sides.

459
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you can then kind of like a coin

460
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: slot almost, yes.

461
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, and then you know, when it's done, you can

462
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: open it up and the waffle comes out.

463
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: And you do you own one of these? No, you don't. No,

464
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: it's just this dream that's kind of just been this

465
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: image of the waffle maker for that kind of thing.

466
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: I would hate to own something like that.

467
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: But I thought, if I want to sleep tonight or

468
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: any night, I need to make this.

469
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: I need to fix this. Right. It's hard to say

470
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 2: what effect this is going to have on your dreams

471
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: moving forward, whether it will continue and maybe a new

472
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: element will be introduced to the dream. I mean, god

473
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: knows what message I was trying to get through to

474
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: you or whoever's placed this dream in your head? Right, yeah?

475
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, were there any other elements of the dream

476
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: that you could remember?

477
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: Or is it I just remember hating you so much?

478
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: And then when I met you, I remember I hated you,

479
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: and I was like, why do I hate Why do

480
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: I hate him? We've never met before. And then I

481
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's the dream. I hate him because

482
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: of the dream. And then eventually I sort of was

483
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: able to separate the you know, the nightmare from right.

484
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: The nightmare right and now reality you're just a strong

485
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: dislike yes, yeah, and the dream continues, I imagine it. Yes, yes.

486
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Is it an increasing hatred or just kind of a baseline, Well,

487
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: now it's.

488
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: Sort of comfort you know, it's a comforting hatred. It's toxic.

489
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: It's a codependent hatred, you know.

490
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that would without that hatred, I mean, you're

491
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: going to be completely off balanced.

492
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: Well see, I mean that's I need something to break

493
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: up the monotony of you know, this pandemic life. So

494
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: maybe not hating you could be just what I need

495
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: shake things up.

496
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: Do you owe the waffle maker of any type? I

497
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: don't want to like a waffle. I love a waffle,

498
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: but I I would never I don't have a lot

499
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: of counter space. You know, I live in New York, right,

500
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: I already have a kitchen aid mixer. I have a

501
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: Vitam mix I have a toaster, my l like cre

502
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: se I have. You know, there's just there's no counter space,

503
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: there's no cabinet space. You know, what are you making

504
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: in your kitchen aid?

505
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: So far I have I've only made one batch of cookies.

506
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: And when was that? That was like two months ago?

507
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so recently. This is a new quest. But

508
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: I bought the kitchen aid mixer like six months ago

509
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: and I've used it once.

510
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: How was your experience?

511
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: I realized in that for this exact cookie recipe, it

512
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: would have been easier to mix my hand. Actually, it

513
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: was just like a simple chocolate chip recipe, oatmeal chocolate

514
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: chip recipe, and there was just no need for the mixer.

515
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: But I think a mixer makes the butter back up.

516
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: Sorry, this is for the listeners who are falling asleep

517
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: the car.

518
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. The listener loves a cookie recipe discussion. Okay,

519
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: who doesn't. If somebody has a problem with that. I

520
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what to tell anyone. That's fair.

521
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh so it was a you. It felt like overkill

522
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: for you. Yeah.

523
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: I bought it originally because I wanted the like I

524
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: made merangue once, and like a vegan merangue, and my

525
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: hands and arms hurt so much.

526
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what I need to do.

527
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: I need to spend hundreds of dollars to make sure

528
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: I never feel this pain in three years when I.

529
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 2: Make this thing again. But I need to spend it

530
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: right now. Do you think you'll make vegan merangue again?

531
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just not fun to make stuff for myself,

532
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

533
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Right? Like, maybe when I can see people again. The

534
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: fun of making things for me is people being like.

535
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, I can't believe you were

536
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: able to.

537
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I had extra you know. I would have

538
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: made this mye for just me, but I thought, why

539
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: not bring it?

540
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Well? I think a kitchen aid is also just kind

541
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: of nice looking. It's just a nice thing to have

542
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: on your counter, right, Yeah, absolutely, it's a status symbol.

543
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: And I grew up you know, poor h trashy.

544
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: I say, like I was Niles Crane, like a young

545
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: Niles Crane, but in Roseanne's house, you know.

546
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah. So I just.

547
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: Always, you know, wanted things like a KitchenAid mixer or

548
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: to listen to NPR, right of course.

549
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'm sorry to hear you've only used

550
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: the kitchen aid once. Do you feel like you got

551
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: it kind of burned you and you're just not going

552
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: to go back to it.

553
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: I really just hate washing things. And you know in

554
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: New York, do you have a dishwasher? Now? Do you

555
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: have a dishwasher? But you know those things aren't dishwashing.

556
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: You know, they're supposed to be hand washed, you know,

557
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: the bowl, the bowl, I think so, yeah, the metal book.

558
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'll go through the dishwasher three

559
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: times a week.

560
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's maybe that's why that mole is

561
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: getting so much bigger.

562
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: Every time I wash it, I feel kind of a

563
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: pulse in my leg and I just the heat radiating

564
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: down and I've just ignored it. But it's worth it

565
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: if it saves me an extra ten minutes. I mean,

566
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm turning into a monster. Maybe I will cool, you

567
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: can absolutely, Maybe this is just the Kitchen Aid Hotline

568
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: podcast at this point, But I hope so. I mean,

569
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I can tell you I recently had a problem. It

570
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: wasn't mine, wasn't mixing correctly. I looked it up. You

571
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: have to drop a dime in the bowl and mix

572
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: it around, and if the dime does it's this weird

573
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: old trick that like, if the mixer doesn't move the

574
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: dime enough, it means it's not adjusted properly. I know

575
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: a lot about a kitchen Aid mixer.

576
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: Wow, is this like some secret blog, like like KitchenAid

577
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: Queen's like like listen, honey, we've been around, Like I

578
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: love those kinds of It's everywhere, okay.

579
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: I think like literally kitchen Aid. I think like the

580
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: company line is like, well, if it's not mixing properly,

581
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: put it for whatever reason, A dime is the exact

582
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: object that you need at the bottom of the bowl

583
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: to make sure it's correct. That's nickel erase air. That

584
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: is to do you cook much at home? I like

585
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: to bake. I like baking.

586
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: It's prettier, you know, you get like a pretty thing

587
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: at the end. And there's too much intuition in cooking,

588
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: and I don't trust.

589
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: My intuition, What do you like to bake them?

590
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: Well, I'm vegan, I and so I make a lot

591
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: of just like vegan things.

592
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: And I made a key lime cake with Italian meringue

593
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: butter cream frosting. Oh that sounds incredible and like a.

594
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Gram cracker cream cheese filling. It was way too sweet.

595
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 3: It was too much. Oh okay, sure, Like that wasn't

596
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: the recipe at all. I just sort of imagined like,

597
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: oh this would be that, this would be amazing.

598
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Did it look nice? It looked great, It looked great.

599
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: It took me two days to make it because I

600
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: had to repeat every step twice because I, you know,

601
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: messed something up every step along the way, like the

602
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: temperature of the sugar for the meringue, you know, using

603
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 3: the wrong amount of flour, you know that sort of thing.

604
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Did you in high school have cooking classes or that

605
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: sort of thing? You didn't, did you? I took so

606
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: many cooking I mean it was essentially I think it

607
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: was just a failure of the Utah public school system

608
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: that I think I took a foods they were called

609
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: foods classes. I would take one of probably every semester

610
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: and learned absolutely nothing.

611
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: Hall neck was gone. By the time I got to

612
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: high school. There was wood shop. I had to make

613
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: a bird house. But some this Skuy Braiden Lever, who

614
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: came from a very big Apostolic Lutheran family, made a

615
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: bird house for me. And that was a sexual awakening

616
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: for me.

617
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: Of course it was.

618
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: I was like, why do I love that he's making

619
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: my bird house for me? Like?

620
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: Why do I why is my face read from this? Yeah?

621
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: Did you take other elective classes in high school? Just

622
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: like I took a children's theater class. A children's theater class, Well,

623
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: this was like.

624
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: In a bigger school that I transferred to my junior year,

625
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: and there was like a theater class that was right

626
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: before lunch and we would take a children's story, improvise

627
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: a show, said it, and then during lunch we took

628
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: the show to different grade schools. Oh that's wonderful. Yeah,

629
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: it's very sweet. Yeah I loved it. I felt like, well,

630
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: we're on tour now, right, And I'm sure the elementary

631
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: schoolers looked at you as a star. I don't remember

632
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: like the audience reaction. I just remember feeling so glad,

633
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: like rushing to eat my food before class because like

634
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: I had just performed and it felt so like God,

635
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: no time to eat because we just we just did

636
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: two shows.

637
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Was there feeling put upon?

638
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: Was there like any inter class drama or anything where

639
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: someone that felt there was a star or someone wasn't

640
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: pulling their weight? There was a murder right outside of

641
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: the death.

642
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: Outside of the death. No, everyone got along. It was

643
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: like fun. That might have been like the best experience

644
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: I've ever had in a school setting. Wow, aside from

645
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Brandon Lever making my God bless yeah, God bless him. God.

646
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: I wonder where he is dead. Do you think the

647
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: murder the murder you had kind of pulled him into

648
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: the class with promise of touring elementary schools. I said, look,

649
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna be huge, make you a star.

650
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: I think your star. This waffle maker is wonderful. I

651
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: have a a regular one, a regular waffle maker, which

652
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I have kind of converted into just a well it's

653
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: no longer a waffle maker because I just use it

654
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: to reheat regular I'm essentially using it as a panini

655
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: press or like when I have left over pizza or whatever. Yeah,

656
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: I throw it in there, which I can't recommend enough

657
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: into a waffle iron. It's fantastic. It's the only way

658
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: I'll ever reheat, at least pizza. You basically fold it

659
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: into a sandwich and burn it.

660
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: You do you do you have a toaster oven? I

661
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: don't have a toaster of Okay, yeah, neither do I.

662
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: But if I did, that's how I would reheat pizza.

663
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: So it doesn't not as for anyone who was wondering,

664
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: maybe tease that at the top of the episode, when

665
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: you're like, hear what Cole's preferred method of reheating pizza is.

666
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: After the break, after the break, we finally get to colds. Yeah,

667
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: I know my current waffle iron is not just full

668
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: of pizza grease most of the time. I guess I

669
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: wash that in the sink. I don't know that you're

670
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: even supposed to wash a waffle maker. I think you

671
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: probably should, right, But it feels like, you know, kind

672
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: of an electronic device that I just drop in the

673
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: sink and suddenly I'm splashing water all over it, and

674
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: how do you dry it out? This kind of things

675
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: like how to clean a cast iron skillet?

676
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: Right, do you have a cast iron skillet? I do,

677
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: but do you use it? I don't because I'm so

678
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: anal about the cleaning of it, like re seasoning it.

679
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: And it's like, why bother making something in it if

680
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: it's going to take me four hours afterwards to you know,

681
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: re season it and make sure it has that gorgeous

682
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: sheen on top.

683
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Have you ever made anything in it?

684
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: My boyfriend made pancakes in it once and then I

685
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: passed it aggressively, was like, well, no, I have to

686
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: clean it.

687
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: Those those to me, just the like getting into it,

688
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: it seems like a giant challenge, the seasoning, all of this.

689
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't I don't know that that's for me. It

690
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: feels like a full lifestyle. You have to accept it's

691
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: a religion. It's ultimately it's a religion.

692
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: It ultimately it's for people who need God and then

693
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 3: they find them and they find Yeah. Cool.

694
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: I feel like it's time to play a game. Okay,

695
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: do you want to play a game called tic tac toe?

696
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: Or we could do a crossword puzzle or word search.

697
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: I'll just hold it up to the zoom and we'll

698
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 2: just quietly say what I see, right, No.

699
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: Do you want to play a game called Gift Master

700
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: or gift or a curse. I'll play gift master.

701
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten seven. Okay,

702
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: for a minute, I have to do some calculating. So

703
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: you're going to have the microphone. You can promote something,

704
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: you can recommend something, you can do whatever you want.

705
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'll be right back. Hello. Do you

706
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: want to make more money? Sure? We all do.

707
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that commercial with Sally Struthers. I'm

708
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: going to do some free association here on Norman Lear.

709
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: There were a lot of shows when I was a child,

710
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: especially Norman Lear, shows that had a sort of orange,

711
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: yellowy brown. I think because they were shot on film,

712
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: but they really I really didn't like them. Watching them,

713
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: I could smell cigarette smoke, and I really I just

714
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: I didn't like it. This is the same reason I

715
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: didn't like Roseanne. It was like, this is my life,

716
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: Why do I want to see this reflected back at me.

717
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: I was much more into, you know, something aspirational like Sybil,

718
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: which apparently, and I don't know if Sybil Shepherd or

719
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: Christine Baranski.

720
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Will ever be guests on this podcast.

721
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: But apparently they did not get along at all, and

722
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: that is hard for me because I would like to

723
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: imagine that they were friends.

724
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh are we I kind of I kind of want

725
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: you to just continue talking for a while. No, No,

726
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm done. I think I've said

727
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: what I needed to say, half heard whatever was happening,

728
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: and I support everything you were saying. Great, thank you, Sybil.

729
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Shepherd is becoming kind of a recurring theme on this

730
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: podcast because I think that Shepherd mouse pad or I did,

731
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: and she sent it to me, and that's neither here

732
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: nor there. We need to play the game, okay, but

733
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: also just excellent use of that time. This is how

734
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: this game works. I'm going to tell you three potential

735
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: gifts things you're going to give to people, and then

736
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: three celebrities or famous people, and you're going to tell

737
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: me which gift you'll give which person and why does

738
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: that make any sense? Yes? Okay, perfect? These are the

739
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: three gifts that you'll be giving. Okay. Number one is

740
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: a trip to White Sands National Monument. Now, I believe

741
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: it's New Mexico. It came across my desk because I

742
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people post about it on Instagram.

743
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: It's you know, sand Dune's White Sand picturesque. That's what

744
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: you're dealing with there. Number two is homemade fudge. Homemade

745
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: fudge like that I made, yes, okay. And finally, guitar lessons.

746
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: Those are the three gifts. Can you'll be giving two?

747
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: Let me find them. I'm getting slightly better at this.

748
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes I struggle, sometimes I nail it, okay. Number one

749
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: this is two people. This is Derek and Julianne Huff. Okay,

750
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: they're the brothers sister team on Dancing with the Stars.

751
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: Number two is celebrity chef Bobby Flay. And number three,

752
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people. This is the Sackler

753
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: family now right, kind of the family behind the opioid crisis. Yes,

754
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: of the I believe Purdue Pharmaceutical Yeah well, okay, yes,

755
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: so go ahead.

756
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: Immediately, I'm poisoning that sudge and giving it to the

757
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: Sackler family because.

758
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: It's coming from my home. It's lazier focused, I love. Yeah.

759
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: Oh, poisoning them, by the way, with an overdose of

760
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: the opioids that they.

761
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Produce or finance.

762
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So we have Bobby Flay hmmm, Okay. The last

763
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: thing I want is either of them playing like Derek

764
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: and Juliana. I don't want them. I feel like the

765
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: Juliana maybe play is Julianna or Juliana Julianne Julianne Juliana

766
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: makes more sense. Yeah, it does, but I'm not I'll

767
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: talk to her about it afterwards.

768
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: For now.

769
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Julianne, I feel like already plays the guitar.

770
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds right interesting, So maybe I would give her.

771
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: I would give them the guitar lessons as a sort

772
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 3: of passive aggressive way of saying, like keep trying, babe.

773
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: And then Bobby Flay sort of seems a little like, uh,

774
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: what are the humors? I learned about this in the

775
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: plague lecture, Like there's like yellow like bile, and then

776
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 3: there's like he's whichever one is like cold and flemy

777
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: and probably needs to be like an arid climate for

778
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: his health, kind of like write out almost.

779
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I would. I would send him there.

780
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent I mean, if you, If

781
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: not you, someone should be sending that poison fudge to

782
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: the I hope, so somebody's got to get them. I

783
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: hope it's Julianne half. I hope she sends you. Hope.

784
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: I hope she sends poison fudge to the Sackler family.

785
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: I would if I woke up to that headline tomorrow,

786
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 3: I would kill myself because I wouldn't get any better

787
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: than there.

788
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: Was absolutely nothing better than that. Juliane becoming an unexpected

789
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: kind of hero.

790
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kind of on this mission of revenge on

791
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: behalf of America, of the world, of the world. Yeah,

792
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: well that's wonderful. Do you give Do you like giving gifts?

793
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: I do like giving gifts. You know what I do?

794
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: You know that? Finally? Yeah, fuck you, I like I

795
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: like giving gifts. I don't care what you think. Yeah,

796
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: I do like it. Do you give unexpected gifts or

797
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: just on occasions? I'm trying.

798
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: You know who's the best gift giver is Amy Sedaris,

799
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: and she gives like gifts at random times if she

800
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: sees something that makes her think of you, right, she'll

801
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: send people things. And I really like that, and so

802
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: I've tried to or it's sort of inspired me to

803
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: just keep my eye out for things like that, just.

804
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: To be thinking of other people while you're out in

805
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: the world.

806
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: But I still mostly just give gifts for you know, housewarming, right,

807
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, birthdays, I love bringing toilet paper.

808
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: Is that true? Yeah?

809
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: Because who doesn't need it? You know, right, It's just

810
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: a thing. It's very practical. Yeah, we'll always be used.

811
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: Is there Have you given any type of gift that

812
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: you've been particularly proud of? Oh?

813
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: Well, the best gift was I got a Toto washlet

814
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 3: you know, like those little bidet toilet seats. Oh sure,

815
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: that like heated to my mother there for Christmas, and

816
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 3: that's wonderful.

817
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Did she like it? She used to ray.

818
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: My aunt had one, and she would just always rave

819
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: about it, like for ten years she would talk about like,

820
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, that toilet seat, and so I finally

821
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: got I got it for her, and I don't think

822
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: I can ever top that, right, at least to her.

823
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And has Amy Sidaria's given you anything good? I mean,

824
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: like what anything exciting?

825
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: She gave me a portrait of me as chassis painted

826
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 3: by David's husband Hugh Hamrick.

827
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's incredible. Yeah.

828
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: She gave me this letter that Joan Crawford sent to someone. Yeah,

829
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: she just sends me those are beautiful gifts. Yeah, yeah,

830
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: sends me acep soaps and lotions lovely.

831
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listener if you haven't seen at Home

832
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: with Amy Sidaris. Obviously, Amy Sidaris is very funny and

833
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: a bit cold. It's also extraordinary. Thanks. You didn't use

834
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: your time to promote anything. I'm not anything to promote

835
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: pp matter. That's another thing. Another thing people should look

836
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: up years again. Thanks? Thanks? Is that years? That feels recent? Two? Three?

837
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Nothing matters anymore.

838
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: I don't know.

839
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: Okay, we've we played the game, and then we got

840
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: into another thing. We have to answer a listener question. Yes,

841
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: this is called I said no emails. People are writing

842
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They

843
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: have just various issues. Let's see if we can answer

844
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: something here one moment. Okay, this says hello bridger and

845
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: insightful guest. I'm in the process of purchasing my first home,

846
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: and my parents are graciously loaning me a part of

847
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: my down payment. This is a true loan plus interest

848
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: that I will be paying them back for in full.

849
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: I'd like to get them something that says thank you,

850
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: without spending too much, because they are loaning me the money.

851
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: After all. My parents are semi retired, have three small

852
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: rescue dogs, a cat, and a chicken. They mostly hang

853
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: out of their suburban home, don't drink much, and prefer

854
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: to be working in the yard when it's warm outside

855
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: with all the animals. Can you give me some ideas

856
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: for an appreciation gift that are one easy on the

857
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: wallet and two aren't tacky or overplayed? And thanks? Ashley

858
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: in Dallas? Okay, So Ashley's parents are, as far as

859
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: I can tell, predatory lenders. I don't. It seems like

860
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: someone has just found herself. She's tangled up in something

861
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: that's going to only become worse. Yeah, and she wants

862
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: to give them a gift.

863
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: This is like PhD level gift giving because it's like,

864
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: what do you get for someone who's loaning you money?

865
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: That's because you know, you get something too expensive. It's like,

866
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: what do you do, like.

867
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Right, that money could be going towards the.

868
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So but I understand, you know, wanting to

869
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: a gesture a gesture.

870
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: Right what we're looking at here? And then also we're

871
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: getting details like there's a chicken, which I don't know

872
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: that you know. It's the complication here is what you

873
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: get your banker. I don't. I'm not in the habit

874
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: of giving my banker a gift, right, But mom and

875
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: dad have apparently some level of money. Yea. And but look,

876
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: she's moving into a house. This is what I think is.

877
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: It's making a nice dinner and having them over, kind

878
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 2: of like kids made dinner and mom and dad are going.

879
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: To have I was going to say, it sounds like,

880
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I don't know what the travel situation is.

881
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: Maybe this house is somewhere on the other side of

882
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: the country. They're like, we don't want to travel, right,

883
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they're not you know, maybe they're anti vaxers.

884
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: Who don't you know, she didn't include any of that information.

885
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: I wish I wish she had. Please respond and Bridger

886
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: will update the audience accordingly. I'm kidding he never will.

887
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: But I think, honestly, you just have to, like you

888
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: have to. It has to be something that you make.

889
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: I think, honestly, a thank you card, like a like

890
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: a letter, like a like an actually thoughtful letter, an

891
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: actually thoughtful letter with some details about their relationship.

892
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's nice. I mean, unless she's a terrible writer.

893
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: A framed photograph of her in front of the house

894
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: not bad, yeah, or.

895
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Maybe like a.

896
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: Actually I don't know, sen some dog treats or something

897
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: some corn kernels for the chickens. So what you do

898
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: is you chicken feed a photo of you in front

899
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: of the house in an nice thank you card, and

900
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: then if you can fit a dog one of the

901
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: little flat little milk bone treats in the envelope as

902
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: well as some corn dragged corn for the chicken, they

903
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: just end up with a dusty letter, which I'll appreciate it.

904
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: I'll have kind of a homie feel great. Yeah, I

905
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 3: mean I don't see any that's neither techy nor overplayed.

906
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And mom and dad are also going to be

907
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: getting a monthly mortgage payment, yes, which maybe there's just

908
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: a thoughtful note every time you pay them.

909
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, hope you're enjoying this interest. I hope you're

910
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: enjoying making money off.

911
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: Of me as I fall further and further into debt.

912
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: Just alone on the down payment though, so well, I

913
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: don't know, but honestly, like just a photo of you,

914
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: like so happy in front of the house, Yeah, as

915
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: like perfectly look at how happy I am because of

916
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: something you did, and then maybe they'll or the interest

917
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: for you.

918
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's all perfectly nice.

919
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: Amy had this this chapter in her book about entertaining,

920
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: Like if you have a rich uncle over you, try

921
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: to like present very poor so that he'll maybe give

922
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: you more money. So like a photograph in front of

923
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: the house. Maybe make it make the house look sort

924
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: of dingy, put a tarple on the window that are

925
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: sort of falling apart, you know. Maybe get the photo

926
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: in the rain without like a rain jacket or something

927
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: like thank you so much, like just really dust, you know,

928
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: like get the envelope dirty as if maybe you found it,

929
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: you know.

930
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's great. Maybe try to send it

931
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: without a stamp so it's a first returned there's no

932
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: money for even for postage at this point. Yeah, and

933
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: cover it in two cent stamps. Yeah. Yeah, I think

934
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: that's wonderful. That question is could not be more comprehensively answered.

935
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: Can we answer one more? Do you mind? I would

936
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: love to something hopefully a little easier. Yeah, maybe not.

937
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean we're just going to go to the next

938
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: thing here. Okay, this is Hybridger and guest. My name

939
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: is Bobby, and I need gift advice for my boyfriend's parents.

940
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: We've been together for five years and he has five siblings. Okay,

941
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: he and his siblings go in together on the gifts

942
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: for every holiday and do not include me in their

943
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: big presence. Well, this is feeling weird. Let's see. So

944
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: I am on my own to buy a Mother's Day,

945
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: Father's Day, Birthdays, Christmas. I ran up out of ideas

946
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: about three years ago, and they have since just been

947
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: getting boo I've been getting booze in a restaurant gift

948
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: cards every holiday. It's getting embarrassing. These people are in

949
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: their early fifties, have a lake house, and they ride motorcycles.

950
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: Please help. And it doesn't look like there's a name there.

951
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: That's probably my mistake, probably copying pasting. But this is

952
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: now an unknown person. Bobby, Oh, Bobby is at the beginning.

953
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: This is a reading reading comprehension problem. I knew it.

954
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: How many eggs are there still in the basket?

955
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: If Robby has given way hold on, what do you

956
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: get for your I don't get Jim's.

957
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: I've never gotten them. I mean maybe that's a problem

958
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: on my I let him get the presence. Yeah, I'm

959
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: not in charge. He doesn't get my parents anything, right.

960
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: I feel like you're just and also there's not this

961
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: I feel like this is kind of a psychologically complicated

962
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: thing where the boyfriend and siblings are all going in

963
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 2: on these gifts and leaving Bobby out. Yeah. I think

964
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: it would be up to the.

965
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: Boyfriend to be like either say like, hey, can we

966
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: put my boyfriend's name on this, or he should help

967
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: you find like you know what my parents would like,

968
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 3: here's this?

969
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: Get them? Yeah, I think I mean, why this person

970
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: is putting a lot of energy to these parents. It

971
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I say just stop altogether,

972
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: although now you've created kind of a pattern that's going

973
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: to feel strange when it ends.

974
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I'm curious, do we can't get Bobby on

975
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: the line? But does he get gifts from them? That's

976
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: a good question because Bobby also mentioned Father's Day and

977
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: Mother's Day and like that's all like yeah, are they

978
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: getting you gifts for your birthday and for Christmas?

979
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: And you know, do you get an Easter basket? You know?

980
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: Is it that sort of thing like or or do

981
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: the parents get you and your boyfriend like a joint gift? Like, right,

982
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: isn't that case?

983
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know. You wouldn't kill him any Bobby

984
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: has kind of been dragged into this high level gift

985
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: giving scam the Ghost where for whatever reason, gifts are

986
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: being given over and over, but these six children want

987
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Bobby's gifts. I think Bobby should

988
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: take whatever.

989
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Another thing that's really good, uh for rich people is

990
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: like donating money.

991
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: For like to charity their name. Yes, that really is.

992
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: Like some sort of like one upmanship of like I

993
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: know you want something, but guess what people need things?

994
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: Well you're buzzing around the lake house.

995
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, making a donation in their name

996
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: is really it's really classy.

997
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: But just get like a very expensive card with that.

998
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful, one of these cards you know. Uh, Well,

999
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: I feel like, did they go out of business? I

1000
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: feel like a walk away from me. You're kidding. No,

1001
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: at the beginning of this pandemic, I right before you

1002
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: saw to it that they would go out a business.

1003
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: I swore, if it's the last thing I do, Papyrus

1004
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: will go out of business.

1005
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: Their brick and mortar stores will close.

1006
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: No.

1007
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: When we were getting ready before this podcast began, I

1008
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: needed help wrapping gifts, and so I went to Papyrus

1009
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: because I'm so bad at wrapping gifts. And they were

1010
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: having a fire sale going out of business, and a

1011
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: team there very sweet teen wrapped all these gifts on discount,

1012
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: heavily discounted because they were going out of business. But

1013
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: apparently you've kind of got this rogue papyrus that's running.

1014
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,479
Speaker 2: Should I go say something? I don't know, right, they're

1015
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: just kind of automatic. Our phone's been ringing. We haven't

1016
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: been paid in months, but is that what's going on? Yeah?

1017
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, an expensive card. Maybe find one of those

1018
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: charities where they put your name on a bench or

1019
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: a brick or that kind of thing. That's a thing, right,

1020
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: I think like I've seen that before.

1021
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're going to put your name on a

1022
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: on a on something, a charity where they put your

1023
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: name on something.

1024
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: I think those are more expensive though, Right, that's a

1025
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: Christmas gift, that's a fiftieth anniversary gift. But a Mother's Day,

1026
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Father's Day maybe animal charity or something.

1027
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: The ASPA right, or something really like dismal, Right, something just.

1028
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Really just sad, And that reminds everyone of how horrible.

1029
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: So many dead children's funds goes to kind of propelling

1030
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: children's deaths.

1031
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: So just to remind everyone that they're dead children Awareness.

1032
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: My charity are raising awareness for dead children. Cole. Okay,

1033
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: we're done answering questions. Cole. I'm so happy to see you.

1034
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you be here. This cafle Maker is wonderful.

1035
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: I really wanted to show up everyone else who's ever.

1036
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that would be you want

1037
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: to do, embarrass you.

1038
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: Frankly, you have good multiple time.

1039
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: Good for a moment. One of this podcasts have been humiliated.

1040
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: And we're just going to exit on that note. And uh, listener,

1041
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: this is the end. Thank you for being here, and uh,

1042
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: do whatever you need to do now. I don't care.

1043
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: I have a nice day, Bye bye. I said, No

1044
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our

1045
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: dear friend on Alis Nelson and the theme song is

1046
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

1047
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: on Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's where you're

1048
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts. I'm getting.

1049
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you

1050
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: found me, and why not leave a review while you're there.

1051
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,680
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1052
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: interest student advertising on the show. Go to midroll dot

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1054
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Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1055
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home.

1056
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess,

1057
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: you're on presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

1058
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?