Speaker 1: Look mad, oh, I see you? Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, dog lost culture. He's
Speaker 1: just calling. Don't mind us just we're just discussing whether
Speaker 1: or not hot engineer Doug was a thought back in
Speaker 1: the day. And I had a tense issue because I said,
Speaker 1: he still is? You feel he is? He's married? No?
Speaker 1: I well, Thoughts can be married. Thoughts is married to.
Speaker 1: Thoughts is married to. That's actually a rotal culture. That's
Speaker 1: really culture number thirty one. Thoughts is married to. Should
Speaker 1: we ask him what his sexual life was like when
Speaker 1: he was young? Yeah? Dog? Come on? Can you come in?
Speaker 1: Can you come in? Please? Can you come in? Please? Doug?
Speaker 1: What were you like? Were you a thought back in
Speaker 1: the day? Do you still consider yourself? Do you identify
Speaker 1: as a thought? A thought? I do think then maybe
Speaker 1: once I was considered a thought. Wow, it would be
Speaker 1: a shame if you weren't. Don't know anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you guys. You were a tall musician, like
Speaker 1: that's all anyone needs, you know. Maybe you're flattering me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me, how did you How did
Speaker 1: you meet your wife? I moved in across the street
Speaker 1: from her. Oh my God wrong, calm vibes. Who made
Speaker 1: the first move? Ye? Well how did it go? I
Speaker 1: helped her move some big boxes that she one day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like stereo or something. I was like, oh, yes, we
Speaker 1: have file. You should meet her one day. She's great.
Speaker 1: I would love for her to sort of pie into
Speaker 1: the frame one of these days, because because it must,
Speaker 1: she must be some woman to go handle on you.
Speaker 1: I think I'm the lucky one in this exchange. But
Speaker 1: don't sell yourself short, Doug. One day I wanted to
Speaker 1: come in all the time. She won't do it. Hey, comfortable,
Speaker 1: We are making you uncomfortable now, look at them. I
Speaker 1: like talking about my wife. Yes, well you should talk
Speaker 1: about her more whenever you have a thing to say
Speaker 1: about your wife. Throughout this episode, I want you to
Speaker 1: just come to be invited. Just know that today on
Speaker 1: the podcast it's it's open door because Doug, really, family
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. Huh. I agree, Dog, I
Speaker 1: want you to come in unprompted at least twice this episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. You do that. Yeah? Yeah, this episode
Speaker 1: is title is This episode features Doug in all caps.
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna get me late tonight. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna wait until Wednesday for the episode Dropp and
Speaker 1: she goes, Babe, I heard you talk about me on
Speaker 1: last my favorite podcast. I mean she would say that,
Speaker 1: and she will hear it on Wednesday, but she might
Speaker 1: know no, of course, yeah she does. It's learning with us.
Speaker 1: Now she does, we met her. She won't come in,
Speaker 1: she sed because of Bowen. Now, okay, Doug. Doug will
Speaker 1: come back on twice this episode. Okay, so it's an
Speaker 1: open door policy, but there is a limit of two
Speaker 1: times you can come in. Come in the third time,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be piste off. Fair enough, Okay, get
Speaker 1: out by, get out, bye, We love you. I'm really
Speaker 1: happy that we did that. I feel like that because
Speaker 1: you know, the readers like they're sick of us. There's
Speaker 1: something they get so sick of us. They just want
Speaker 1: to say, can they bring Doug in? Because that's the
Speaker 1: guy I want to hear about. They keep saying how
Speaker 1: hot he is. Doug is ahead, He's a massive hit,
Speaker 1: massive hit. Can I tell you who else is a
Speaker 1: massive hit? Past Halloween weekend, my sister, my sister, Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers caused on Instagram a gay Instagram just a manic
Speaker 1: cascade of laughs and relatability. She dressed up as a
Speaker 1: pantry girl. If you don't know, these are These are
Speaker 1: the teenage girls who live on Long Island, who take
Speaker 1: the ferry every morning to work at the Pines Pantry
Speaker 1: and Fire Island. And I think Matt really nailed their
Speaker 1: essence down. You know what the girl I named her Jim,
Speaker 1: she lives inside me. She is my girlfriends in high
Speaker 1: school who all did work at the market. My sister
Speaker 1: also worked there. So I have like a deep connection
Speaker 1: to the pantry girls. I don't just that the pantry. Yes,
Speaker 1: not the Pines Pantry. She worked at Ocean Bay Park.
Speaker 1: But you know what, so many people in the comments
Speaker 1: on that Instagram post where like as a former pantry girl.
Speaker 1: I guess they were coming out. They were, And the
Speaker 1: fact that they have not been completely disgusted by the
Speaker 1: behavior of gay men as a collective to to follow
Speaker 1: you and to be like and to recognize themselves and
Speaker 1: new I think it's beautiful. I think that. I here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I tried to represent them as truthfully as possible.
Speaker 1: You did, You didn't try, you succeeded. There was no
Speaker 1: I wasn't creating fantasy here. You what I mean? It
Speaker 1: was just authentic, grounded, let's say Julianne Moore type performance
Speaker 1: ground that very Christmas Stewart Spencer. I would say that
Speaker 1: my costume was the Christian Stewart Spencer of the year
Speaker 1: without dressing up like that at all. Like my performances,
Speaker 1: Jen was very Christian Stewart and Pablo Aine Spencer. You
Speaker 1: were a success to them as a spider. Dude, No,
Speaker 1: we can't talk about I'm so I have not felt
Speaker 1: this kind of shame in a while, and I think
Speaker 1: that's healthy that I like feel like not proud of
Speaker 1: something that I've done, that I've executed. It's okay. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to lift up you. I think you really.
Speaker 1: I thought so finally of you today, I go, Matt
Speaker 1: really did that. I'm so happy for her. Those The
Speaker 1: way that Halloweens usually go for me is I don't
Speaker 1: know what the funk I'm doing until about an hour
Speaker 1: before and I really almost bailed on that costume, and
Speaker 1: I was like, are people going to even given? Am I?
Speaker 1: And then I was worried because I was gonna have
Speaker 1: to wear the footwear all like, because everyone knows those
Speaker 1: girls wear the big chunky socks with a knife slide,
Speaker 1: you know, or like a burk or something. Right, they're
Speaker 1: not crunchy enough to wear burg in stocks. And that's okay, right, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: yeah that and then what what I will say. One
Speaker 1: piece of criticism I god about the pantry girls look
Speaker 1: is someone said, I know that people think we show
Speaker 1: up in footwear like that, but actually, like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of walking and you couldn't just show up in
Speaker 1: like socks and a bad shoot. You need a soul support.
Speaker 1: People took issue with the footwear, Yeah they did. That's
Speaker 1: the danger of like, you know, dressing up as a
Speaker 1: type of person, because you weren't. You were You were
Speaker 1: dressed up as gen obviously, but you were also you
Speaker 1: were also like, this is a kind of person that
Speaker 1: is geographically, socie economically specific, right, and they are I
Speaker 1: think they're historically important. And so let's just let's just
Speaker 1: say this, Like we shot the movie Fire Island this summer,
Speaker 1: and for people who thought that maybe there wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the representation of the pantry girl, think again, we can't.
Speaker 1: We will not reveal at the time who plays a
Speaker 1: pantry girl. We will not reveal at the time, we
Speaker 1: will only say they have been a guest on Lost Culture.
Speaker 1: They have been a guest on Lost Culture, they have
Speaker 1: done live Lost Culture shows several times. Favorite guest of ours.
Speaker 1: But like it. And I'm just gonna say a performance
Speaker 1: that I felt was dropped in that I felt represented it,
Speaker 1: got it exactly. Yeah. Oh, a queer legend, honestly, And
Speaker 1: I've given something away. She's she's part of the acronym.
Speaker 1: That's right, Welcome to the arena. Whenever anyone is part
Speaker 1: of the acronym, I said, well, welcome to the arena.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the arena. Are you ready? Prepare for battle?
Speaker 1: Prepare for battle? Oh my god, that just you know
Speaker 1: what that reminds Ulan? No, no, no no. When we
Speaker 1: did fin you iconically delivered the line prepare for battle.
Speaker 1: And then I posed, you know, I was just back
Speaker 1: in Disney World. I know, Wait, we can't do this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's something's going on with me lately where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like Ariel on the Grotto. I
Speaker 1: go like, truly like out of the see wish I
Speaker 1: could be part of that world. You are part of
Speaker 1: that world. I don't know. I'm like I wish. I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, Oh god, I've I've been robbed. I've
Speaker 1: not been robbed. I've been blessed with this life, but
Speaker 1: I've also been I've not been given the chance in
Speaker 1: recent years to like watch the leaves change. You know,
Speaker 1: we can't Willie Nilly just be like Orlando trip this
Speaker 1: October and we used to Willie Nilly say that we
Speaker 1: really did, just say I kind of missed that time
Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah, but you're always gonna miss the
Speaker 1: great before. I mean, that's the thing is, it's like
Speaker 1: you never know the good times are the good times.
Speaker 1: This is a little sad, but I don't mean for
Speaker 1: it to be. This is just like when I first
Speaker 1: realized that, like this is a this is an interesting
Speaker 1: line of work that we're in, which was my grandmother
Speaker 1: passed away two summers ago, three summers ago, and I
Speaker 1: was the only member in the family who couldn't go
Speaker 1: to the funeral because I was what shooting is really,
Speaker 1: I wasn't that high up on the call sheet, and
Speaker 1: like there was just there wasn't in my around it,
Speaker 1: and I was I still remember that I regret that
Speaker 1: I'll carry with me. Yeah, you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: what I what I said at the time and what
Speaker 1: I believe is true, is like whenever things just don't happen,
Speaker 1: like like in the way you'd want it to, just
Speaker 1: know that you're whoever passes away, your grandmother is so
Speaker 1: proud of you that you get to be, you get
Speaker 1: that she gets to you know, be part of why
Speaker 1: you exist. But Matt, this is like the relationship I
Speaker 1: have with this grandma on my mom's side, it's full
Speaker 1: fucking nutty. It's like, oh, I was such a little
Speaker 1: piece of ship to her growing up, even though she
Speaker 1: was the best, the smartest, the funniest, like someone who
Speaker 1: like I like we like it was love all along,
Speaker 1: but like there was that developmental period in like middle
Speaker 1: school when she was staying with us in Colorado. More
Speaker 1: like I was just such a fucking jackass to her
Speaker 1: and she was all all she ever did was love me.
Speaker 1: And it literally is that. And then I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, like she anyway like this this business like
Speaker 1: you can't go for a damn funeral any you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a little crazy, how how how strict
Speaker 1: the scheduling all is. And ultimately, yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: interesting that you bring that up because I was thinking
Speaker 1: the other day, I all my grandparents are gone now too,
Speaker 1: and um, you know I was, I was with I
Speaker 1: was on this family trip with my mom, my dad,
Speaker 1: and my sister. So it's sort of like old times,
Speaker 1: like you know, like that is the core for very much.
Speaker 1: So that is really where we would go all the
Speaker 1: time on family vacations growing up. And I just remember,
Speaker 1: so I was walking in Epcot and I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember like we were walking past Soren and next door
Speaker 1: used to be it's called the Journey into Imagination. Now
Speaker 1: it used to be hunting a shrunk the audience. Oh
Speaker 1: I missed that right so much. Yeah, so it was
Speaker 1: like a three D show and the dog sneeze at
Speaker 1: you and felt the spray. Yeah, this is like o
Speaker 1: g Epcot. So it's called funny or maybe not, but
Speaker 1: like I was there for a while, but I was,
Speaker 1: so this is a glimpse and it's gonna surprise no
Speaker 1: eader that listen to us for a while. But I
Speaker 1: was so that kid. I used to read all the
Speaker 1: books about Orlando theme parks before we'd go, Like I
Speaker 1: would know about every ride and show and I would
Speaker 1: like list out, like Okay, we're gonna do this, this, this,
Speaker 1: like that was what I like to do when I
Speaker 1: was like seven of the in many ways, not every way,
Speaker 1: but many ways. But I remember I had read about
Speaker 1: Honey I Shrunk the audience that there was a scary
Speaker 1: part where the snake like lurches out and it's three D,
Speaker 1: so that was horrifying. So I remember we got to
Speaker 1: that show and it was I was probably seven, and
Speaker 1: I just freaked out, like this snake was was getting
Speaker 1: at me, like the way I am now about horror movies.
Speaker 1: I was like that as a kid about the snake.
Speaker 1: And I started to cry because my dad was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you don't want to do this,
Speaker 1: like you've been talking about it for months, like we're
Speaker 1: so excited to be here, and now you don't want
Speaker 1: to do this, Like I'm gonna hear about it for
Speaker 1: the rest of the trip, and he was getting short
Speaker 1: with me and my grandmother, who was my favorite. I mean,
Speaker 1: I loved my grandmother, my dad, dad's mom or dad's mom,
Speaker 1: and she was on the trip and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit with him out here, and I
Speaker 1: just remember I remember her sitting with me, and um,
Speaker 1: she just like sat with me and we like hung
Speaker 1: out by like these jumping fountains. This is just like
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, oh my god, no, wow, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about. I know that area.
Speaker 1: I just remember my grandmother being like I didn't really
Speaker 1: want to do it either, so this is better for me.
Speaker 1: We get to sit down and watch the water. And
Speaker 1: we just watched it, and my dad came out and
Speaker 1: I think he could sell. He was like, um, disappointed
Speaker 1: that he had like snapped at me a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was like, well, you were right about the snake
Speaker 1: and it was scary. And then we walked on and
Speaker 1: we we did something else. But I don't know, just
Speaker 1: that memory of my grandmother back in Yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to make it all Modlin. You were talking. You were
Speaker 1: actually going to talk about Orlando and how is the trip.
Speaker 1: It was a nice trip, But it was also it
Speaker 1: was nice for that reason too, because that was a
Speaker 1: place where I had so many formative memories and I
Speaker 1: actually did get a little emotional, you know, being there
Speaker 1: with my family because it's, um, you know, it's that
Speaker 1: thing where it's all the same, well not the same
Speaker 1: because things. But I had that thing with Disney where
Speaker 1: I got the parks where I'm like, I've been coming
Speaker 1: here all my life and it's still here in a
Speaker 1: way that is like monumental in your own memory, like,
Speaker 1: oh this is like this was it was the biggest
Speaker 1: deal in the world when I would come here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the essences of it are there, yeah, and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: Ellie has been several times, Sophie went to Disneyland when
Speaker 1: they when my sister went to l A with my
Speaker 1: mom um. But I'm like, I can't wait to And
Speaker 1: I did go to euro Disney with with Ellie when
Speaker 1: she was like an infant. But I'm like, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Like it'll be really surreal when I go there with
Speaker 1: the girls when they're you know, old enough to really
Speaker 1: get into it, and I'll be like, yeow, like that
Speaker 1: was I was. I was them, like you know, twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago or whatever, Like that'll be That'll be fun.
Speaker 1: There is something special about it because you see how
Speaker 1: excited kids are to be there, and then also it
Speaker 1: is just like a lot of family memories and it
Speaker 1: was just fun. I mean, we went during the Food
Speaker 1: and Wine Festival where there's like the country. We did that,
Speaker 1: and we did that. We got drunk, so drunk and
Speaker 1: stone and ate every little food thing from the station. Yea,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love the food and Wine Festival.
Speaker 1: It was like it was such a blast and like,
Speaker 1: um also the breaking news and what I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you about was so, you know, when we had
Speaker 1: bad Wong on, we talked about how he was acting
Speaker 1: in the pre show of the Veloco Coaster. So I
Speaker 1: have seen it and written it now and it's it's
Speaker 1: truly crazy and good and we I haven't seen it well,
Speaker 1: I was talking. We I've only seen him in the
Speaker 1: Jurassic PARTL Jurassic World ride at Universal Hollywood. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: tell me everything. So it's like the theme of the
Speaker 1: ride is like you get to do a roller coaster
Speaker 1: through like a raptor paddock and it's it's actually it's
Speaker 1: funny because they do this whole pre show where Bryce
Speaker 1: Dallas Howard, who actually serves in this pre show, is like,
Speaker 1: this open air experience is amazing. You'll get so close
Speaker 1: to raptors, but don't worry that the ride vehicles make
Speaker 1: it so they can't touch you. And Chris Pratt. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just kind of like popping off, like this is
Speaker 1: a bad idea at CET other classic theme park give
Speaker 1: and take, and so b D is sort of in it,
Speaker 1: like talking about the science of it all and that
Speaker 1: man can deliver. He is giving you and he looked
Speaker 1: so hot in the pre show. Of course he does.
Speaker 1: He does he like like a side buzz, like a
Speaker 1: side fade. Yeah, oh my god, what a what a
Speaker 1: what a legend. He's really he's really delivering and anyway
Speaker 1: you could you could want him to. And then the
Speaker 1: ride was unreal. So it was so good. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go on it with my Sisteria me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you when are we going? Well, like we said, it's
Speaker 1: not just a willing only thing anymore because of absolute careers.
Speaker 1: But one day we'll go. We've been meaning to go
Speaker 1: for I would say the last thirty six months, right,
Speaker 1: like it's been a while, it has been a long time.
Speaker 1: But I also think that, and this is crazy for
Speaker 1: me to be the one that says this. I do
Speaker 1: think we should go to Berlin. You know, it might
Speaker 1: be nice. I would love to go to Berlin with you.
Speaker 1: I think we would have a very fun time. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about it, and we've been talking about it,
Speaker 1: and look, we gotta go and with the world's ending,
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. Sorry, I'm like coming in with
Speaker 1: bleakness and you're not. You're not. And I also have
Speaker 1: to say, like, we did just go on vacasion. We
Speaker 1: went to Oh we went were on a vacation. But honestly,
Speaker 1: can I say something what I don't feel that rested?
Speaker 1: But when this this always happens, Can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question? What are you having trouble sleeping? Yes? Well,
Speaker 1: what is how do we figure that out? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I really don't know the solution to it. I think
Speaker 1: it'll just have a nice little I'll have a nice
Speaker 1: little lull around the holidays where I maybe get to
Speaker 1: catch up on it. But this is just a thing
Speaker 1: that I need to maybe address magically. I think maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: because that's like, I mean, here's the thing, readers. You
Speaker 1: gotta sleep. You got us leader, It's a rule culture
Speaker 1: number fifty two. You sleep, okay, I mean, And I
Speaker 1: just feel like so much is rooted in that, Like
Speaker 1: when I get a good, even solid like eight to
Speaker 1: ten hours, um, I feel it's just and This is
Speaker 1: news to no one, but it truly you realize how
Speaker 1: important it is. That and drinking water. Well, I should
Speaker 1: say that I've been hydrating better than ever before, and
Speaker 1: that is actually doing a lot of work. This is
Speaker 1: so boring. I think maybe it's a cigarettes though. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that I think the cigarettes might be keeping
Speaker 1: you up. I'm kind of off of them. I was
Speaker 1: not smoking cigarettes when we were in O high, and
Speaker 1: I still had trouble sleeping. Well, it's also because I
Speaker 1: had to get up and do ship for other people. Whatever, well,
Speaker 1: not for not for you. Matt and I were working
Speaker 1: on a very fun project and talking about ideas. Get this.
Speaker 1: We were working on a very fun project, talking about ideas.
Speaker 1: Maybe there, maybe you're about to experience, uh, Matt and
Speaker 1: bone like you've never experienced them before, different mediums that
Speaker 1: you might not expect. You're giving away too much. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Well listen, I I
Speaker 1: when you said the thing about hits in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when you were like, you said something about a hit,
Speaker 1: I said, Doug as a hit. You were a hit
Speaker 1: at Halloween as a Halloween. I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to mention another hit. Which and so just to sort
Speaker 1: of talk about pop culture because that is sort of
Speaker 1: what what the podcast purports to do. It has been
Speaker 1: it has been several weeks and we talked all about
Speaker 1: how Adele was going to release Easy On Me, and
Speaker 1: since then she has We've heard the whole thing and
Speaker 1: it's become the number one song in the world. And
Speaker 1: you see today they released her track list. Thing I
Speaker 1: did not see. Oh my god, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about can you can you inform me? Shall we read
Speaker 1: the track list? Thing? Yeah? I said on her on
Speaker 1: her Instagram. Let's see Adele track list. So this is
Speaker 1: the track list for thirty. Um she has revealed it. Um,
Speaker 1: there are there. She has decided. Okay, so get this.
Speaker 1: If you could guess who Adele is going to do
Speaker 1: her first duet ever with, who would you think it is?
Speaker 1: It won't be correct, I know, like it would be
Speaker 1: someone not totally in her market but slightly slight overlap
Speaker 1: with it. So I would you know, you'd say someone
Speaker 1: like a Leon Bridges, you know, like someone like that.
Speaker 1: It's Chris Stapleton. Oh yeah, it's it's it's on the
Speaker 1: It's on the Easy on Me bonus track. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's the deluxe version. Moment Easy on Me duet with
Speaker 1: Chris Stapleton is a bonus track on thirty Interesting Um
Speaker 1: Errol Gardner I'm seeing as well All Night Parking. I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: these are these are fun. These are fun titles though,
Speaker 1: So get this. I think if we're gonna judge based
Speaker 1: on song title, whether or not the song will be
Speaker 1: good or not. Strangers by Nature, that's a good song.
Speaker 1: Strangest by Nature, my Little Love Cryer hard Out. It's
Speaker 1: honestly like, that's the essence of every adult song. Number
Speaker 1: five is oh my God, oh my God, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. Well, you know, we said, we kind of
Speaker 1: said this rule that this is this rule of culture
Speaker 1: off air, and we want to tell everyone it's rule
Speaker 1: of culture number um nineties four when it comes to
Speaker 1: oh my god, and it's true. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: more organically exclamatory than oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's what it's like, as naturalist, pretty thing. It's the
Speaker 1: fact that it's three syllables and it's even more natural
Speaker 1: than something with less syllables is astounding. It's not like
Speaker 1: oh oh no, it's like oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, your brain just wants to do the
Speaker 1: three all three words, all three syllables. It's a three
Speaker 1: syllable thing. Bowen Yang, Matt Rogers, Oh my god, three
Speaker 1: syllable thing. Doug get out, Doug come in? Wait? Was
Speaker 1: he just coming in? No? No, no, But I was
Speaker 1: thinking that's an example of like a three syllable thing,
Speaker 1: Doug come in? But do you can't come in. You
Speaker 1: can't come in invite it. You have to come in
Speaker 1: on your own, uninvited. So continuing to read to the
Speaker 1: track list, can I get it? I'm I hope that's
Speaker 1: not like a British ism like can you you know,
Speaker 1: don't let me down? Can you diget like the Beatles
Speaker 1: or anything? Can I get it? You know what? Okay,
Speaker 1: not to pivot from adult too much? Okay, is there
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say about Adult? Well, I
Speaker 1: just want to say that number seven is track list
Speaker 1: the ones everyone is really getting excited about is called
Speaker 1: I drink Drink wine. I mean mass appeal four quadrants
Speaker 1: and everybody drinks it. Yeah, every gender, every age group,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone drinks wine. Everyone drinks behind And I
Speaker 1: think that's the beauty of wine. Is that? Now? Go
Speaker 1: ahead and pivot. Well, I was gonna say, like I
Speaker 1: need to, like I think it's I think I'm due
Speaker 1: for I'm sure you don't feel this way, but I
Speaker 1: truly feel the pole to really and this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound so annoying, but to really get back into the Beatles,
Speaker 1: into the Beatles. Yeah, you know, I have the White
Speaker 1: Album on vinyl. That's one of the best albums of
Speaker 1: all time. I go, I Am, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was like I was doing this thing with Cecily
Speaker 1: and then like one of the producers was this big
Speaker 1: beetle head, like the Liverpool came up or something, and
Speaker 1: then Cecily was just rattling off all of these things
Speaker 1: about the Beatles, and I was just there being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that doc came out about you know, let it Be
Speaker 1: and that concert on the Roof when they, you know,
Speaker 1: were hating each other. And apparently this documentary talks about
Speaker 1: how it's like the actual footage from that time and
Speaker 1: like they were actually in a good place, but they
Speaker 1: had to like put forward this and I'm probably butchering
Speaker 1: this and p and readers are probably seeing the dock
Speaker 1: and can attest to this, but like it's about how
Speaker 1: like they were kind of in a decent place, even
Speaker 1: though they were supposed to put forth the image of
Speaker 1: where there's tension, which is such an interesting inversion of
Speaker 1: like what celebrity sort of image usually is about it
Speaker 1: They're you're supposed to get along and but actually they
Speaker 1: hate each other. This was like the opposite. And but anyway,
Speaker 1: Cecily was writtling off all these Beatles facts, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I used to be so fucking into them
Speaker 1: really late high school, early college, like early college was
Speaker 1: what was when I was like, oh wait, like Brian Wilson,
Speaker 1: like I need to get back into like the Beach Boys,
Speaker 1: so deep into the Beach Boys, and like I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I'm just I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: most important pop cultural moments when well, no, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: saying it was when it was Beatles came out with
Speaker 1: like Revolver, and then so Brian Wilson was like, we
Speaker 1: need to make an album that's as good as this.
Speaker 1: They made Pet Sounds, and then Paul McCartney and I
Speaker 1: was John Lennon or is one like the Beatles were
Speaker 1: basically we need to make an album as good as this,
Speaker 1: like like that little like exchange that back and forth,
Speaker 1: like making like three incredible pop albums rock albums. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that must have been crazy. That must have been like
Speaker 1: you know, when Beyonce came out with self titled and
Speaker 1: then Taylor came out with they Were the Original be
Speaker 1: and Taylor. That was that was when the girls were growing. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is when going to you, what do you
Speaker 1: have to say the Beatles? I mean, you're you're Beatles?
Speaker 1: Were you dog whistling him? No? I was not talking.
Speaker 1: I've honestly been thinking of this a lot. Dog go ahead.
Speaker 1: The Beatles are single handedly the most important thing in
Speaker 1: pop music. I mean, everything changed, it all went. Can
Speaker 1: you school us like, like, can you give us like
Speaker 1: the quick quick sparks notes, cliffs notes? I mean the Beatles.
Speaker 1: Every everyone knows. I mean we're we're not saying anything
Speaker 1: new obviously, but I think it's important for not not
Speaker 1: enough of us, like millennial gen z cuspic gaze, like
Speaker 1: I think the children have forgotten. We know about the
Speaker 1: British invasion, we know about the of Beatlemania, we know
Speaker 1: about you know, it was truly the first like or
Speaker 1: not the first BLUs Elvis, but like It was an
Speaker 1: iconic moment of intense fandom that was felt all around
Speaker 1: the globe. But tell us something we don't know, Doug.
Speaker 1: I mean they affected everybody. They weren't macho like, affected
Speaker 1: every culture. That's why they're the Beatles. They literally everything
Speaker 1: comes from the Beatles that I can see. I mean,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift wouldn't exist without the Beatles. And that's the way.
Speaker 1: That's the way you sort of get us to listen. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm gonna I'm gonna, as the kids say,
Speaker 1: gag you. Doug and Bowen, you must have been shook. Went.
Speaker 1: So we were in Ohio at this restaurant, and why
Speaker 1: did you I don't understand why you left? Talk here. No,
Speaker 1: we will just miss you when we will just this
Speaker 1: are the rules of you coming in, come in uninvited,
Speaker 1: and then you leave when we say it can happen
Speaker 1: one more time after this. Don't sunk up again. I've
Speaker 1: been having a lot of fun with you today and
Speaker 1: it could end like that. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 1: and don't leave in the middle of me telling you something.
Speaker 1: We went to a restaurant in OHI called the Each House.
Speaker 1: It was lovely and wet in there. We have this
Speaker 1: amazing waitress a five course in five course, let's just
Speaker 1: describe the vibe. The vibe was like, oh, I bet
Speaker 1: those trees, the little little bridges to different areas, um,
Speaker 1: it felt like a chic costa folklore, very folklore. And
Speaker 1: and and then me and Study and Matt were are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of restaurant that like probably was
Speaker 1: huge and so she can cool in the sixties. Like
Speaker 1: we said that to each other, like this is a
Speaker 1: place where you probably imagine like people in the sixties
Speaker 1: coming to and feeling very I don't know, just refined
Speaker 1: or cultured. And then our waitress tells us. We're like,
Speaker 1: this is such a lovely We were complimenting the place,
Speaker 1: how much fun we had, and we were saying the
Speaker 1: move food was great, and she goes, well, you know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of history here. Well, the first thing
Speaker 1: she says was I waited on Luke Bryant. And we
Speaker 1: were like oh. And then she goes and right over
Speaker 1: that bridge is where John and Yoko wrote A man imagine. Wow, yeah, Doug,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on pet sounds? This and the Beatles?
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on I love Pet Sounds
Speaker 1: maybe my my favorite album of all time. It's up
Speaker 1: there for sure. The harmonies and things are unprecedented. They
Speaker 1: went other places baroque pop. You don't get Fleet Foxes
Speaker 1: without Pet Sounds. You don't get tight, tight harmonies like
Speaker 1: that without the Beach Boys in general, like I mean,
Speaker 1: like they didn't invent harmonies, but they like it was
Speaker 1: very like I mean, like, was Phil Specter involved with
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys ever? It just felt like very wall
Speaker 1: of Sounds without Phil Spector's taint on it. I don't remember,
Speaker 1: got it. It wasn't Phil Specterr more of the ladies
Speaker 1: of the time. Phil Spectrm was more of the ladies.
Speaker 1: But like I think, but I'm saying in terms of
Speaker 1: like that lush Yeah, the wall of sound music wall
Speaker 1: like that was like his thing, and like I feel
Speaker 1: like Pet Sounds was that concurrently or maybe slightly before slightly.
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm bad with my music history. But Doug,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite? What's your favorite album of all time?
Speaker 1: Do you have one? Do you have to top three?
Speaker 1: Top two? I mean Pet Sounds is up there, really,
Speaker 1: Revolver is up there. I'm putting you on the spot.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and you look uncomfortable. It was. It's just
Speaker 1: it's one of those questions where you you listen to
Speaker 1: something and then you love it, and then somebody asked you.
Speaker 1: That's a horrible I hate myself for asking. Now, don't
Speaker 1: worry Doug. Why would you hate yourself for asking this
Speaker 1: man who's a musician, what is top three albums of
Speaker 1: all time? Are the fact that he can't answer. It's
Speaker 1: like when people ask you, like who your favorite actresses
Speaker 1: or like what your favorite like, Yeah, Kirsten Dunce, let's
Speaker 1: move on, and that's coming onto the chat? Anna Anna
Speaker 1: what bye? And this is just a nightmare. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what do you go? You can come in on
Speaker 1: one time later. I love Doug. I mean, he's really
Speaker 1: the star of the episode, isn't He's the star? His
Speaker 1: name is in the title. Sorry is what got you
Speaker 1: thinking of all this when she said that? Because when
Speaker 1: she said that John and Yoko wrote Imagine at that restaurant,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, and then I realized
Speaker 1: they probably were on an absolute metric ton of of something,
Speaker 1: of of of drugs. I mean, it's the most stoner
Speaker 1: slash like l s d song of all time. Imagine
Speaker 1: there's no heaven. Whoa but you you go up to
Speaker 1: O hi, and I'm telling you something. Purple Mountain majesty
Speaker 1: above the fruited plane. Say that it wasn't so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I know we were the only fruits there. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that it was a very straight energy and oh Hi,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I'm just saying there's no fruited planes
Speaker 1: in OHI, I don't think, but it's really lovely. Oh No.
Speaker 1: What got me into the Beatles thing was just like
Speaker 1: I mean, Cecily talking about them like really like stirred
Speaker 1: something in me. I Kayla stirback my good friend from
Speaker 1: high school. She was on the improv team with me.
Speaker 1: I hope she's doing well. I have I've done a
Speaker 1: bad job of reconnecting with her. But she was like
Speaker 1: the big Beatles girl, and like Kayla had the best
Speaker 1: music taste because she because she was the one who
Speaker 1: was like, you gotta listen to the new Fergie song
Speaker 1: for Delicious or London Bridge or whatever, and will also
Speaker 1: being like you know who Elliott Smith is? Do you
Speaker 1: know stevens is? I was like, this girl gets it.
Speaker 1: That's the embracing of high and low that we need
Speaker 1: in life and people need to be more like ms
Speaker 1: was Kayla, miss Kayla Stirback and she, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: she was the one to like. She was so fucking
Speaker 1: cool and we like we like saw borat together and
Speaker 1: like she was a fucking cool and guess what was
Speaker 1: also obsessed with Kirston looked like Kirston a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like told me. She was like, she was like, you
Speaker 1: gotta read the Virgin Suicides. You gotta watch it. I
Speaker 1: was like, like, you gotta know about Jeffrey Ugenity's whatever.
Speaker 1: And I was just like this girl, I she was
Speaker 1: one of those like I think, let's make up a
Speaker 1: new term, okay for icon of high school girlfriends. Well, no, no,
Speaker 1: not even high school. It's like a cultural shirt, a
Speaker 1: cultural guide, a cultural like steward. She was a cultural
Speaker 1: She introduced me. I'm like, my I think Yang my
Speaker 1: sisters is definitely that introduced me to a lot. And
Speaker 1: then by the time I got to high school, it
Speaker 1: was Kayla Kayla like told me what was up anyway?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's it's absolutely fabulous
Speaker 1: to say that someone was a cultural stewardess that to me,
Speaker 1: that sounds a little too like service E. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't think that's but that's you disrespecting um steward.
Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting. I'm acknowledging to call it service and
Speaker 1: do that little handshake you that I'm acknowledging the power
Speaker 1: dynamic that is inherent in that outdated job title. But
Speaker 1: but to say, to say that someone stewarded me through
Speaker 1: something means that they put in care into, like you know, service,
Speaker 1: serving me something. Damn, I guess I've really I guess
Speaker 1: I've found myself in a little a little circular logic thing.
Speaker 1: But who do you have your I think study was
Speaker 1: probably one of ours. Both of ours. Study was like
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. I think study definitely changed the
Speaker 1: way I saw a lot of things in high school.
Speaker 1: It was for me, it was a lot of the
Speaker 1: I to know, I really wasn't and I never really did.
Speaker 1: But I would say that it was a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends from my cross country team, which I've discussed
Speaker 1: on this podcast, like I had older friends, and like
Speaker 1: what made the cross country kids different from the kids
Speaker 1: did other sports is for me was they liked like
Speaker 1: classic rock and like fun rock music like that was
Speaker 1: the only exposure to Queen I ever had, which I loved.
Speaker 1: And you know it's for me. That was probably because
Speaker 1: a lot of this I wasn't. I was I would
Speaker 1: only find something if it was really popular, and I
Speaker 1: didn't have that. I don't know, I didn't. I guess
Speaker 1: you know. I did. I have an uncle that was cool.
Speaker 1: I hadn't one uncle that I remember. It was really
Speaker 1: important to me that I play him since you've been gone,
Speaker 1: because his opinion of it meant a lot to me.
Speaker 1: And I remember I played him the song and I said,
Speaker 1: I remember I was like fit fourteen, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's very eighties rock. No, and he goes not know
Speaker 1: and he did? He throw me a bone? He was like,
Speaker 1: it is very eighties rock. And I remember being like, yes,
Speaker 1: got Uncle Chris to sign off on this song. Kelly
Speaker 1: is a rock goddess. It's interesting to think about. I mean,
Speaker 1: we literally this weekend in OHI did some throwbacks for
Speaker 1: a couple of movies. We we only watched old Ship.
Speaker 1: We only watched old Ship. Actually thinks from like things
Speaker 1: that came out between two thousand and seven and two ten,
Speaker 1: was it was okay? So reader, we we we watched
Speaker 1: Jennifer's Body and Rena and went in Miami, which we've
Speaker 1: recently talked about, I think with Sarah with Sarah Sarah squirm. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: both wonderful, wonderful. Study had never seen Jennifer's Body, and
Speaker 1: we on this podcast last Culture just believe that Jennifer's
Speaker 1: Body is an underrated gym and that actually it's one
Speaker 1: of Diablo Cody's best I think that's widely agreed upon.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. People don't say that.
Speaker 1: Sure they do know there's a disrespect of Jennifer's body
Speaker 1: that happens amongst the mainstream conversation about it. They don't
Speaker 1: talk about it because I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 1: It's obviously not one of her more serious efforts, at
Speaker 1: least on face value. But there's a lot of very
Speaker 1: cool themes in there that I think we rediscovered and
Speaker 1: watching it again, and Megan Fox is great and Amanda
Speaker 1: Seyfrid is fucking great, and it's so good in it,
Speaker 1: so great, and I mean, yeah, you and Study talked
Speaker 1: about how it's obviously like deb Cody's queerest movie, but
Speaker 1: it's also like so about queerness without it being cheaply
Speaker 1: centered on the moment where like they make out. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, you can kind of like it's if you
Speaker 1: think about it, it's like, no, Amanda's eyfread like that character,
Speaker 1: um isn't fully maybe fully in love with this boyfriend
Speaker 1: and that like literally she's getting fucked by him and
Speaker 1: all she and like she because of this bond she
Speaker 1: has with Jennifer, is only thinking about her, picturing her,
Speaker 1: sensing her as she's getting as she's as she's as
Speaker 1: she's being like penetrated, and so it's like, whoa, that
Speaker 1: is so so rich, so great, like not too on
Speaker 1: the nose, like such a great piece of like queer cinema.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I also think it's it
Speaker 1: just I mean I think that they've said this, but
Speaker 1: maybe the marketing of it missed the market because they
Speaker 1: marketed it at the time Two Boys, because it was
Speaker 1: like Megan Fox was of course sex symbol of that time. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it's like deeply about female friendship and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I believe like queer sexuality in high school and figuring
Speaker 1: that out, and you know, there is um a lot
Speaker 1: in there about like when a girl achieves a certain
Speaker 1: level of sexuality that men feel they can just take
Speaker 1: that from her, because I mean, I mean, Jennifer is
Speaker 1: murdered and assaulted in the in the in the film,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's a really it's a much more
Speaker 1: interesting movie than I think people thought of it at
Speaker 1: the time. And I also don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: people saw it because there was this um predetermination to
Speaker 1: not take her seriously Megan Fox, right, And like, first
Speaker 1: of all, there were so many times in that movie
Speaker 1: where I turned both through, you know, I was just
Speaker 1: like She's, Wow, how did she how is she doing that? Um?
Speaker 1: But which is not to like patronizingly be like I
Speaker 1: didn't know Megan Fox could act good. That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just saying, like there's just such a
Speaker 1: mechanical technical skill in that and what she's doing. But like, no, literally,
Speaker 1: she and Diabolic Cody did like, uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: tenth anniversary interview rees like a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's just the two of them talking to each other.
Speaker 1: It's such a good interview. It's such a great interview
Speaker 1: for the both of them, and they both talked about
Speaker 1: how it sucked, and it was so maddening the way
Speaker 1: they marketed it and the way they the way it tested,
Speaker 1: and like all of these things. They were like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like this is in what the movie is
Speaker 1: and why why is it about like tits and ass
Speaker 1: when it's like about something I don't know, like so
Speaker 1: much more meaningful and and and nuanced and like I
Speaker 1: don't know. Layer, Yeah, it's definitely worth a rewatch because
Speaker 1: even in rewatching it, like I always when I'm discussing
Speaker 1: the movie, it was clear to me when I saw
Speaker 1: this this most recent time that it had been a while,
Speaker 1: because I usually always say whenever we're discussing Jennifer's body
Speaker 1: that the only part of the movie that doesn't ring
Speaker 1: true for me is the sex scene between them. But
Speaker 1: then in this viewing of it, I was like, this
Speaker 1: actually works for me because this is an actual erotic
Speaker 1: moment between them, because it's the first truly erotic moment
Speaker 1: of Amanda Sypherd's character's life, and especially in contrast with
Speaker 1: her sexual experience with her boyfriend in the movie. It's
Speaker 1: it really, it just jumps out and you remember it
Speaker 1: because it actually means something to her, And I didn't
Speaker 1: pick up on my first viewings of this movie. I've
Speaker 1: seen it at least twice before, but um, there's that
Speaker 1: moment where Megan goes to we play boy, Like what
Speaker 1: what was it like? There's just like an illusions boyfriend
Speaker 1: girlfriend something like that where it's like it's alluded to,
Speaker 1: and then in the flashbacks it's like, oh, these girls
Speaker 1: are connected through literal blood and also through some like
Speaker 1: emotional investment where they've seen each other where it makes
Speaker 1: sense that they're friends first of all, and then it
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense that they would hook up that way,
Speaker 1: especially after Megan's like coming off of like spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: killing a guy, glowing, feeling like in her element in
Speaker 1: her prime, feeling like she's empowered enough to like for her,
Speaker 1: it's a neurotic for Megan. For Jennifer, it's a neurotic
Speaker 1: experience too, because she doesn't need to hook up with
Speaker 1: her Like she's hooking up with boys and killing them
Speaker 1: because she needs to live as a demon. But she
Speaker 1: doesn't need to hook up with Amanda Seyfrid's character out
Speaker 1: of necessity, you know, she doesn't literally doesn't need to
Speaker 1: do that, and so she's it's both of them, for
Speaker 1: both of them. It's this pleasurable experience like that is,
Speaker 1: and and why wouldn't female sexuality be anything but that
Speaker 1: for these characters. I think it's so great. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's funny, and it's a lot of it really is
Speaker 1: super funny. The performances are good, so that song really
Speaker 1: and it's truly like returning a lot throughout the movie
Speaker 1: in a really fun way. The fact that it's such
Speaker 1: a good hook lucky sort of makes the way that
Speaker 1: they get corrupted by him make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: because he is this like you know, Adam Brody on
Speaker 1: the movie Who's Such Who, He's great, and he is
Speaker 1: this douchebag rocker, but then when he sings it's this
Speaker 1: essentially like crooney, mid tempo pop song that the girls
Speaker 1: swoon over, and you know, ultimately he takes advantage of them.
Speaker 1: But it's just like, I don't know, it's it's just
Speaker 1: a much more interesting movie than I think people gave
Speaker 1: it credit for. And also another thing we have to
Speaker 1: think about two is and still to this day this
Speaker 1: is the case, but the way movies get reviewed it
Speaker 1: really matters because and this is why we need like
Speaker 1: a diverse um population in terms of who is reviewing
Speaker 1: the films right, So, and the answer is not always
Speaker 1: if it's a queer movie, get the queer person to
Speaker 1: review it, just because honestly, they they're they're often much
Speaker 1: harder than anyone else on their own representation. That's a
Speaker 1: whole other thing we could digress about, um, which we won't.
Speaker 1: But I just think probably probably what happened at the
Speaker 1: time was if it wasn't majority male movie reviewers, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing that movie and then spitting their opinion out on it,
Speaker 1: it was female reviewers in the context of film criticism
Speaker 1: at that time, which is, you know, you really do
Speaker 1: want to be taken seriously. And I just think so
Speaker 1: much that the the prism and the lens through which
Speaker 1: we see movies like that at the time, it really
Speaker 1: didn't stand a chance at getting taken super seriously. And
Speaker 1: it is an audacious script, and she was a lightning
Speaker 1: rod figure, Megan Fox. And so I wonder if it
Speaker 1: gets released now, and I do think it holds up
Speaker 1: how it's how it's reviewed now, you know, I wonder,
Speaker 1: that's a really great observation, really great observation. You were
Speaker 1: the smartest girl, you know, that's not true. I think
Speaker 1: the smartest girl is probably Greta. Um wait, when when
Speaker 1: you were again pantry girl, Jen you were when you
Speaker 1: were describing Adam Brodie's band, you said crooney, which I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna I think, did you mean to
Speaker 1: say rooney? No, but they were very ruoney asked, but
Speaker 1: it was very rooney asked. And do you remember do
Speaker 1: you remember Queen Somewhere only, I Love, I Love. I
Speaker 1: thought that was I thought that was the best song
Speaker 1: in the world. It's a very good song. And that
Speaker 1: that that talk about like big old monster hook and
Speaker 1: that whole deal. Whoa. I remember Blake Lewis did it
Speaker 1: on the American Idol one time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you better sing because he was just at the time
Speaker 1: to completely date the world right now. What a what
Speaker 1: a great belt on that male belt on that song though, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I'm getting to and then d yeah, such a
Speaker 1: good I mean literally that like speaking of that time,
Speaker 1: you know what else I was obsessed with at the time.
Speaker 1: It is one of the best pop songs ever, Like
Speaker 1: like a couple of months ago, it was like right
Speaker 1: when the pandemic seemed like it was truly ending. And
Speaker 1: then the delta variant popped up a bunch of house Schliker,
Speaker 1: like a bunch of us, Like we all went to
Speaker 1: Jared was there full four months ago, right, but we
Speaker 1: all went to this thing in l A which was
Speaker 1: like it was truly like a pop of the two
Speaker 1: thousand's party was at a bar or no, but I
Speaker 1: told you about it. I forget. I don't know what
Speaker 1: venue it was, but I'm telling you, Ale Down, Sugar,
Speaker 1: Were Sugar, We're Going Down has to be one of
Speaker 1: the best pop songs ever. It was so good. And
Speaker 1: also another song that came on and hit me in
Speaker 1: my fucking talk about talked about this, Yeah, what hit
Speaker 1: your problem? Mr? Bright Side? Bitch, Oh don't eat Mr
Speaker 1: bright Side. It was like it was like a big again.
Speaker 1: Really talk about this, talk about this synesthesia of hearing
Speaker 1: the song and feeling that you were getting penetry coming
Speaker 1: out on my cage. And I've been doing just gotta
Speaker 1: be down because I want it all. So you're saying
Speaker 1: there's like a kinetic energy too. I mean that hot
Speaker 1: fuss that is that is one of the best, That
Speaker 1: is one of the best albums of that decade. They
Speaker 1: were so good and all these things that I've done love.
Speaker 1: I mean that was the best time truth and hearts
Speaker 1: that and that guitar is just that instrumental stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to set up, I want to go Yes,
Speaker 1: so good, Oh my god. Yeah that that that was
Speaker 1: a really good era. And at the time I was
Speaker 1: like afraid of panic at the disco, but then they
Speaker 1: played like I write since not tragedies um at the
Speaker 1: event and I was like, wow, this is something that
Speaker 1: is important, so good and smile like you mean it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm still on the killers, Like oh I'm
Speaker 1: Holistically a music like that was truly but talk about
Speaker 1: like that was formative music for us. I mean being
Speaker 1: in high school, you never forget like everyone's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's just it for us. It's the attachment in that
Speaker 1: critical time and like love that the kids have these
Speaker 1: these these this music now because I think it's it
Speaker 1: is a very good time in music. It's something so
Speaker 1: precious and nostalgic, not to wax too wistful about it,
Speaker 1: but it's so oh, it's so powerful. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna make You're so good to make a
Speaker 1: play you know that one of everyone, all the readers
Speaker 1: that know any they know a thing, know that one
Speaker 1: of bone young superpowers, you have the gay power of playlists.
Speaker 1: But can I it is one of the gay powers.
Speaker 1: Can I just say? Though? Lately, I've felt very self
Speaker 1: conscious about this thing that I do, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: who am I to be so histrionic to think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put together songs that other people have made and
Speaker 1: kind of curate them. Oh God, that word, But they're
Speaker 1: not You're in doing that. You're not saying I'm a
Speaker 1: curator of something. You're just saying like you're in that,
Speaker 1: and that it's like something where it's like, now take
Speaker 1: me seriously, or like you're doing something that you enjoy
Speaker 1: and sharing it. Just look at it like that. And
Speaker 1: I've lately have been doing like fun Little Mood to
Speaker 1: my boss battle music I did. I've been like city
Speaker 1: pop stuff like everyone already knows about everyone. I love
Speaker 1: it when I'm saying people know about city pop outside
Speaker 1: of this podcast. But I think I think we need
Speaker 1: to make like early like mid Auts when we were
Speaker 1: in high school, that music we've talked about, like taking
Speaker 1: back to Sunday. I feel like this is a difference,
Speaker 1: is a slightly different adjacent area where it's like, honestly
Speaker 1: not ashamed to admit it, was obsessed with Switchfoot. Oh
Speaker 1: love switch Foot, especially after I watch I remember it's
Speaker 1: like that switch Foot. Yeah, I liked them too because
Speaker 1: they did because they did a cover of only Hope.
Speaker 1: Yes they did, and then he fucking goes for the
Speaker 1: belt on the bridge. Well he can sing there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean liked never. I mean they're there's so there's
Speaker 1: so much because it's just like and again, I wish
Speaker 1: I hadn't um been so afraid to like what I
Speaker 1: liked truly in high school because I don't really liked
Speaker 1: that and other people liked that too, Yeah, because they
Speaker 1: were the only thing I really was like, No, I
Speaker 1: don't like them, despite the fact that I probably did.
Speaker 1: Was this I'm Good Charlotte because it was the all
Speaker 1: loved good Charlotte. But the emo of it all was
Speaker 1: not something that I could to liking at the time
Speaker 1: for some reason, for whatever reason that makes sense. But
Speaker 1: I mean, god, I just I just yeah, what I
Speaker 1: would have what a fun little time like like like
Speaker 1: kind of like matched, Oh my god, did you ever
Speaker 1: listen to stars? What is stars? Uh? Your x um
Speaker 1: set yourself on fire, your ex lover is dead. I
Speaker 1: don't know this. Oh my you st Oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: fucking freak if you, if you, if you're in the
Speaker 1: mindset to go back to that time. This is like
Speaker 1: something I don't think they were ever on Gray's and
Speaker 1: like the early seasons, but like it would be like
Speaker 1: something that they would play on Gray's when like you know,
Speaker 1: like Derek and Meredith would like pass over each other
Speaker 1: in the hallway. Right. So my favorite type of music, well,
Speaker 1: basically my favorite type of music was Gray's Anatomy climbax scene.
Speaker 1: Well can you okay? So the music Literally think I
Speaker 1: think we've talked about her before on the pod Alex Pastavas.
Speaker 1: I'm not even looking anything. I can just recall her name,
Speaker 1: music supervisor for Gray's Anatomy for many seasons. I don't
Speaker 1: think she works there anymore, but she was also the
Speaker 1: music supervisor on the o C. A perfect woman, a
Speaker 1: perfect woman, but like truly someone who crafted sensibilities and
Speaker 1: a literal tastemaker. Was soundtracking all of our teenage years
Speaker 1: alongside you know, Ryan and Morissa and and everybody you
Speaker 1: know and Seth and oh my god, what was the
Speaker 1: summer or summer perfect music for that show. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: an important job. If you're a music supervisor and you
Speaker 1: do that job well, that is that can be one
Speaker 1: of the most impactful jobs in showbiz. Yeah, I think that,
Speaker 1: I mean the music of any project, just like so
Speaker 1: like I remember, like when Jared was putting his movie together,
Speaker 1: The Fine and we were talking about the music so
Speaker 1: much and he loves music so much, like and so
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the musical element of Three Months,
Speaker 1: especially because Choice Savon is starring in it. You know. Actually,
Speaker 1: like I've heard some of the music that he's done
Speaker 1: for it, and it's so good. But I think I
Speaker 1: think Jared played me one soide he did and I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, it's really really good. People should be
Speaker 1: excited about what Choice savan is going to bring in
Speaker 1: the next year. So like, which is which is really
Speaker 1: super excit something because we've been excited for many years.
Speaker 1: I've loved Troy since I first saw him, when I
Speaker 1: saw like a little twinkie pop star who was just
Speaker 1: I mean when he was on NL and just like
Speaker 1: fully like giving it I was I was doing that
Speaker 1: was bluem Era, Yeah, but I was loving Troy even
Speaker 1: before that, Yeah neighorhood, blue neighborhood is a blue neighbor
Speaker 1: the song blue Neighbor is so good. Yeah anyway, sorry,
Speaker 1: but um, Troy. I mean, I'm just saying like everyone
Speaker 1: should be should be psyched about the turn that Troy's
Speaker 1: career is about to take, because it's gonna be very
Speaker 1: very cool. Okay, So wait, I'm loving living in this
Speaker 1: nostalgia era and I know, but I also feel that
Speaker 1: it's a connector because one thing that's resumed this year,
Speaker 1: which we're both into we haven't talked about yet Survivor.
Speaker 1: This Survivor. So this episode pissed me off because I
Speaker 1: wasn't a t but a fun twist, but a fun
Speaker 1: twist that might not actually have much consequence. I think
Speaker 1: it'll be like a nothing burger by the next episode.
Speaker 1: Are we both loving the I mean, the season has
Speaker 1: a main character. This season has at main character. Her
Speaker 1: name is Shan, also known as the Mafia Pastor. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the most compelling biopackages you could ask for
Speaker 1: in reality television. I mean literally, I I'm loving what
Speaker 1: they're doing narratively with the season because I feel like
Speaker 1: you're really getting to know all the quick characters as
Speaker 1: it were, and they they're doing this thing where like
Speaker 1: in the narrative they'll drop it all away and you'll
Speaker 1: see like footage from their old life. They never used
Speaker 1: to do that very great British bakeoff. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: like maybe the show was being edited by edited by
Speaker 1: a different person, or the show or the whole series
Speaker 1: has a different take on what it's doing in a
Speaker 1: way that I'm really enjoying. I'm loving the season. I
Speaker 1: think they really took it seriously. They were like, after
Speaker 1: forty let's reset it in some way, not hard reset,
Speaker 1: but let's reset it in some small aesthetic ways that
Speaker 1: will actually make a big impact. And narratively, I think
Speaker 1: that is really reverberating. And I was saying when you
Speaker 1: were like, it's you're getting to know these people. We're
Speaker 1: only like six episodes in. It's it's early days. I
Speaker 1: mean we got to the merge, but early days. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I feel like I kind of have
Speaker 1: a read on these people, and I'm kind of i
Speaker 1: and I think there's room to be surprised and delighted
Speaker 1: and shocked, um, but I feel like I'm already really
Speaker 1: attached to these people. Well, you know, you notice now
Speaker 1: more than ever that casting is everything because the people
Speaker 1: on this season that soever, they're all interesting in dynamic
Speaker 1: and it's also thems then what we should say it
Speaker 1: is the most diverse group there's ever been, so that's
Speaker 1: been a real strength of it. But it's also like
Speaker 1: you compare it to this season of Drag Race UK,
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, it's that just goes to show
Speaker 1: like a whole season of television can can live and
Speaker 1: die on casting. Well literally, i mean like All Stars
Speaker 1: Too is like a perfect example, like you absolutely stacked
Speaker 1: people on that cast. Yeah, I mean you us season
Speaker 1: thirteen incredible, incredible casting. But it's like and for an
Speaker 1: all star season of a show, it's like that's different
Speaker 1: because you're pulling from you know, past contestants. But you
Speaker 1: know this is so I think they did a great
Speaker 1: job on Survivor this season. Yeah, I think Jeff really
Speaker 1: likes them, if that means anything. I'm loving Jeff this season.
Speaker 1: He is on one and I love that. Can you
Speaker 1: just name another legend? We don't stand too many straight
Speaker 1: white sis sis men on this pod? He would be
Speaker 1: I'm sure we do. Do you think he would ever
Speaker 1: come to this show. He wouldn't get it. He would
Speaker 1: he knows how to talk to a queer person, like
Speaker 1: there's there's been queers on the show since season one. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you remember in the first episode when he was
Speaker 1: like that the whole on the compendium on guys. When
Speaker 1: that was happening, I was like I kind of was
Speaker 1: rolling my eyes and like, is this performed? And then
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you know what, I'm still knowing
Speaker 1: that I know knowing that what I know about this person,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, is this definitely happening on CBS in a
Speaker 1: way where it's like, look at us having the conversation. Sure,
Speaker 1: but also I bet he genuinely used to respect everyone
Speaker 1: on that she wants to know and not for any
Speaker 1: like I roll compulsory, Oh I gotta do this. I
Speaker 1: think he's genuinely like, I'm fascinated by people, especially people
Speaker 1: who want to do this show, and I want to
Speaker 1: make sure I like have a care and a consideration
Speaker 1: into like how I talk to these people as a
Speaker 1: group and individually. Like he's god, Like he's like he
Speaker 1: is the reality show host. Yeah, I mean, if he
Speaker 1: were still like eligible for the Emmy like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe people have just kind of feel like
Speaker 1: they've seen Survivor, but a Lifetime Achievement awards, he's won
Speaker 1: a couple in the beginning, but he gat himself out.
Speaker 1: But the thing too, for people that don't know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. In the very first episode of the
Speaker 1: season of Survivor, he said, well, you know, one of
Speaker 1: my iconic things I say is come on, And he
Speaker 1: then put to the cast. The second they get on
Speaker 1: the on the boat and they they're first all introduced,
Speaker 1: He's like, who has a problem with me saying come on?
Speaker 1: In guys, because if one person does, I won't say
Speaker 1: it anymore. I want to move forward. I want the
Speaker 1: show to adapt and evolve and change in a fully
Speaker 1: well intentioned way. And the one well, the one queer
Speaker 1: woman was not the one queer woman, but one of
Speaker 1: the queer women. Heavy said, or you know what, I
Speaker 1: believe that they're non binary. They referred to themselves as
Speaker 1: a woman, refer to themselves as a queer woman. But
Speaker 1: I believe in press materials after the show that they're
Speaker 1: non binary. So let's just refer to them as they
Speaker 1: and say they said that they did not have a
Speaker 1: problem with come on guys. That's a colloquialism. Then later
Speaker 1: in the episode, another clear another queer contestant, Ricard said
Speaker 1: I thought about what you said, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we need come on guys. And so Jeff has retired
Speaker 1: come on guys, just like that, in a way that
Speaker 1: was not like begrudging. Literally he made the terms clear,
Speaker 1: if one person has an issue with it, I will
Speaker 1: not say it anymore. And then one person said it
Speaker 1: and was and then he was like in a different
Speaker 1: at a different time, and he was like, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: what if he had been like, actually, that was the
Speaker 1: thing for yesterday and we used too long. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep saying. I mean this is I mean, I
Speaker 1: think he his brain is on another level because too
Speaker 1: to comment, to commentate or whatever on the actual challenges
Speaker 1: the way he does, for he has done for two
Speaker 1: decades at this point, that takes like such a skill,
Speaker 1: such a such a such an awareness of how entertainment
Speaker 1: is communicated, of like how to like just tell a story.
Speaker 1: I just think he's a genius. And you know the
Speaker 1: fact is, they don't always get it right on that show.
Speaker 1: There have been there have been whole seasons of the
Speaker 1: show which are like unwatchable because of the way they
Speaker 1: bungle certain social issues. I'm thinking specifically about season thirty
Speaker 1: nine with um, you know, Kelly Kim being assaulted and
Speaker 1: that that he was not taken off right away, but
Speaker 1: or fucking what's her face? The cops are us girl?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, you know, that's the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm itself, Sarah. But the fact is CBS, I
Speaker 1: don't think there probably is a more conservative viewers ship,
Speaker 1: Like there's a loyal viewership of CBS which is older
Speaker 1: and mail, which is why they have n c I
Speaker 1: S fucking every city and the c S I S
Speaker 1: and all that. The impact is huge, right, and so
Speaker 1: this is still a very widely watched show. And so
Speaker 1: the fact that that conversation happened, even if I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, like who are they doing this? For the
Speaker 1: fact that that conversation is happening on a show like that,
Speaker 1: that's it is important and I do see the value
Speaker 1: when it I'm sure there was I mean, there was
Speaker 1: like blowback from like there was Ricard was saying he
Speaker 1: got a lot of hate for bringing it up again,
Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm sure I'm positive. In fact, I probably
Speaker 1: remember reading this that week that a lot of queer
Speaker 1: people who watched everything like, oh my god, what a
Speaker 1: fucking iro roll like and then it's like, well then
Speaker 1: it sucks. It's like they're damned if they do and
Speaker 1: they're damned if they don't. That's kind of what I'm
Speaker 1: saying about, like as queer people, like maybe maybe that
Speaker 1: moment actually isn't for for us as much as it
Speaker 1: is for people. For me, it's not for me at all.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I will say in publicly
Speaker 1: that I will every now and then throw around the
Speaker 1: guys when I know I'm a mixed company in terms
Speaker 1: of in terms of gender, and I'm just like I
Speaker 1: would think that I don't know. I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: up to me to say, but like, I'm not even
Speaker 1: asking myself that question the way that Jeff is. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of other people identify with this,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it feels like excessive or cartuitous or something.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think about that Waham episode
Speaker 1: all the fucking time. From Trell, the episode that Studio
Speaker 1: wrote that you were in. I talked about it with
Speaker 1: Vanessa the other day. I was like, I think about
Speaker 1: that episode all the time where it's like, sometimes when
Speaker 1: you think something is for you, it might not be
Speaker 1: and that's okay, and it's for it's for someone who
Speaker 1: needs to hear this because they don't have the same
Speaker 1: sort of social environment contours there, the their awareness is
Speaker 1: not is not as filled in as yours. You know,
Speaker 1: like that that's what we're that's what we have here. Well,
Speaker 1: I remember when because we were watching separately obviously, but
Speaker 1: when when it got to that point in the episode,
Speaker 1: I texted you and I said, I think I said
Speaker 1: something like L O L this compendium on guys And
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you think about this? And
Speaker 1: you were like, it's I roll, but I guess it's
Speaker 1: not for me to say and I and then I realized,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's actually not for us to say.
Speaker 1: It's for someone who wants it changed to speak up
Speaker 1: and say. And then someone in the episode did do that.
Speaker 1: I have started to you know, because guys is such
Speaker 1: a colloquialism, it's such a cultural colloquialism that it is
Speaker 1: that one thing where when I when I was was
Speaker 1: first brought to my attention to maybe eliminated. I think
Speaker 1: there was a defensive thing where I was like, really,
Speaker 1: we can't say like, hey, guys, like even though it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, well intentioned. And then I really thought to myself, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's never going to bother me, so why
Speaker 1: so it's not for me to say? And I've started
Speaker 1: taking it out of like, you know, from writing an email,
Speaker 1: like I will take that word out. If I'm using
Speaker 1: social media in a way, I will take that word
Speaker 1: and I'll say, folks, I'll say all because it's easy
Speaker 1: for me and it helps people feel good. So why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you do it? You know? I this is this
Speaker 1: is I should not be bringing this up. But I
Speaker 1: feel like there there was like internally some like queer
Speaker 1: blowback on people. I think. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: now a lot of people that I know are like,
Speaker 1: I roll of all. I rolls when they see folks
Speaker 1: with an X written out in the in an earnest way,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, see, like, is there such a thing
Speaker 1: as like overcorrecting the absolutely? But you have to do
Speaker 1: that to arrive at a place that's I mean, I
Speaker 1: would it's I mean this it gets into dodgy territory
Speaker 1: when you say this, but I do believe that there
Speaker 1: has to be an overcorrection when there's been such an
Speaker 1: this is not the word, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like when when something hasn't even been broached at all
Speaker 1: and it's been damaging two people, it's actually okay that
Speaker 1: we a little too far, you know, agree, And it's
Speaker 1: like that with you know, and not to get into
Speaker 1: the cancelation of it all, like the narrative that. But
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, you know what if people have to
Speaker 1: answer for past behaviors that are that are not necessarily
Speaker 1: like abject harmful, even if they're good people that have
Speaker 1: to have an uncomfortable moment, that's actually okay because in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme, we need to have a reckoning about
Speaker 1: things like this and get to a place where we're
Speaker 1: living in a world of equity, of fairness, of you know,
Speaker 1: actual everyone, actually everyone being respected for their humanity, not
Speaker 1: just some antiquated way of referencing like people are relating
Speaker 1: to people. You know, it's about humanity, and it's actually
Speaker 1: okay if we overcorrect sometimes, so the conversation to me,
Speaker 1: even if in the moment I was like are we
Speaker 1: really doing this? Actually I get it now and I
Speaker 1: respect it. I agree. Agree, let's talk about these remaining Survivors. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, there's stars on the cast, their stars
Speaker 1: and the cast, even someone like voch or Genie. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish I could have seen more of them. I
Speaker 1: it's hurts, like this is the first season I've watched
Speaker 1: in a while, and I did watch a ton of seasons,
Speaker 1: as we know, as did you like where this season
Speaker 1: when you lose people, it's hurting. It's it's it's it's competitive,
Speaker 1: it's it's high stakes. I'm telling you readers, I know you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you were listening to us all throughout
Speaker 1: the summer, you know we had our moment with Survivor.
Speaker 1: It is not ending. This is another great season. Two
Speaker 1: summers ago wow, fun, I know, I know we're at
Speaker 1: that point now where we're going two summers ago. Summer,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been it's been like a year and
Speaker 1: a half. Let's just say and change. But um, poverty
Speaker 1: was was summer? Wow? Yeah, And we love you, we
Speaker 1: love you. Part of Zeke was Zeke was summer. But
Speaker 1: but we go way back, we go way back with
Speaker 1: Zeke of course, Um, yeah, no, it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: great season. I think that Shan is the one to watch,
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, it's almost that thing
Speaker 1: of like when you when you watch reality shows so
Speaker 1: much or any television and you start to see it
Speaker 1: with TV brain you can see what you see the patterns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's pattern recognition. Yeah. The narratives are built in, like
Speaker 1: you can pretty much tell who's top three. I thought,
Speaker 1: I love the narratives though it's something to like see
Speaker 1: the narrative for what it is. But I really like
Speaker 1: this narrative. I'm obsessed. What do we think? I mean,
Speaker 1: we're recording this on November one. I feel like the
Speaker 1: Erica thing. I hope, I hope it gives her some
Speaker 1: intrigue because I feel like everyone on that tribe is
Speaker 1: we haven't really gotten to know them that much. But
Speaker 1: I kind of love that everyone dislikes her. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I will publicly say I cannot stand Sydney. Cannot stand her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she is a fun character to watch, but
Speaker 1: certainly if the island has a bitch goddess this year
Speaker 1: is Sydney. It's actually not her? Who is I don't
Speaker 1: think there needs to be one. I love it as
Speaker 1: an archetype. But I get what you're saying. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to describe this word to her to Shan,
Speaker 1: but if you want to like someone who is like
Speaker 1: just coming for you and it's playing this game so
Speaker 1: well and like is not afraid to like fuck you,
Speaker 1: Like Shannon is your bitch goddess. She is literally she
Speaker 1: has a shift. Yeah she is, she's out here. Parv
Speaker 1: was never like the bitch goddess. To me, Parv was
Speaker 1: just like a great, a great like hot girl who
Speaker 1: knew like her power. Sydney is just like I'm just like, no,
Speaker 1: you stop it where she's like I think she was
Speaker 1: like fishing at one point and she was like I
Speaker 1: don't know. She just like brabbed about herself in a
Speaker 1: way that was just like not I'm just not self
Speaker 1: aware of what she was something like the girls are
Speaker 1: the girls are never the girls on the show are
Speaker 1: never like me. I'm out here actually providing for the
Speaker 1: tribe in the way that like Ozzy Wood or whatever,
Speaker 1: like she's like something else. It was something that really
Speaker 1: got to me and I was like, her humor is
Speaker 1: not landing with you. Her whole vibe is not landing
Speaker 1: with me. And maybe it's because I like, I meanbe
Speaker 1: it's because we all know that girl, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know all of these people. Um,
Speaker 1: but Shan Shan I love, I love is a star.
Speaker 1: He is coming out of the world wrook for me, Like,
Speaker 1: and you know what I love about him, Like when
Speaker 1: he's succeeding in the show, I'm happy, like and I too,
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen with a lot of people, right, Like,
Speaker 1: It's like he is sort of only has good intentions
Speaker 1: and it's very um but it's still a still journey,
Speaker 1: very here is journey good intentions, still very strategic player,
Speaker 1: very good physical player, kind of like a You'll kind
Speaker 1: of You'll checks a lot of the Buell boxes, like
Speaker 1: obviously not the same person as Youll, but like I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm not paying tribute to Nasier as much as
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I mean, You'll, it's like a
Speaker 1: god fully a god come factory, Come Factory called me
Speaker 1: the come Factory. He's so fucking hot and Ozzie was
Speaker 1: so hot too, and you know Ozzie has only fans yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's it's just like him like yanking it. No,
Speaker 1: that's him sucking checks. Dude. You know, I'm sorry you
Speaker 1: and you're you and your straight porn fetish. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't mean a king shame but straight. Actually
Speaker 1: it's actually it's actually a little culture number one hundred
Speaker 1: and four straight kink um. That's true. Well, man, I
Speaker 1: say you know what to be honest, she's tired. She's tired,
Speaker 1: and also I have something to do so we can
Speaker 1: move on it. I don't think so, honey, I just
Speaker 1: don't want to. I wanted to just touch on one thing.
Speaker 1: As the morning show correspondent for the show, I felt
Speaker 1: like I should just tell everyone will please spoiler alert
Speaker 1: spoiler alert spoiler alert forwards like to two to five
Speaker 1: minutes from no no, no, no, no no no, not even
Speaker 1: it's gonna be quick. Steve Carrell drove off a cliff.
Speaker 1: So the third graders are cackling writing this season. It
Speaker 1: could not be more insane. I the teachers not even
Speaker 1: in the room anymore. They're on vacation. There there the
Speaker 1: teachers left her vacation. I forgot to get users came
Speaker 1: to school on their own, their own volition to be like,
Speaker 1: we love this so much, we're having so much fun
Speaker 1: writing this show that they came to school and now
Speaker 1: he's gonna drive off on cliff Yeah, and he's dead. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I know that I'm here to let you know
Speaker 1: exactly how much fun the third grade is. We're having
Speaker 1: writing in the morning show. They're having a blast, having
Speaker 1: the best week on the class. Um. We wish the
Speaker 1: best for We wish the best for Dorite Kemsley. We
Speaker 1: hope that we hope that it wasn't stage. You better
Speaker 1: take that back. No, I don't think so, Honey is
Speaker 1: gonna be Derite related? Okay, what else? What else? I
Speaker 1: think that it might be Sime for I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch on a couple because current
Speaker 1: events are happening as we speak. Current events are happening
Speaker 1: as we speak. Um, did you watch the Potoma Coinneally?
Speaker 1: I watched Potomac CONNELLI I missed Slake City. I will
Speaker 1: watch that tonight. Potomacinelle, you know Vulture was I forget
Speaker 1: her name, but she writes wonderful recap through Potomac, and
Speaker 1: she pointed out something very interesting. She was like, all
Speaker 1: of the franchises for Housewives put in the Pandemic have
Speaker 1: really struggled with like a crawl to the to the
Speaker 1: finish line. And it's okay because it's like it's hard
Speaker 1: to because I guess there's still all these limitations around
Speaker 1: shooting with COVID that it's really hard to like produce
Speaker 1: story out of what they're you know, what they can
Speaker 1: work with and anyway, But then she also said this
Speaker 1: funny thing where she was like, um, I forget what
Speaker 1: the context of the sentence was, but she said that
Speaker 1: Robin has been acting like squid word all s yeah,
Speaker 1: very very our e or just like and it's sad
Speaker 1: because that's not the Robin we love. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I do feel bad for though, because that one wants
Speaker 1: to get married so bad. I'm just like, can you
Speaker 1: just can we just have the wedding please? I can't
Speaker 1: believe we had a wedding this season. It was Karen's
Speaker 1: second one. It was not vow renew. Well. Juan was
Speaker 1: being all kinds of fucking stupid this episode. I was like,
Speaker 1: why did he drive off at the mere mentioned that
Speaker 1: he was not present as a father. He was like
Speaker 1: a main character in this episode and then when he
Speaker 1: was like mediating the Michael and Chris uh, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, And then I was really happy the
Speaker 1: campus called it what it was, which was the white
Speaker 1: privilege of it all. The fact that Michael is even
Speaker 1: allowed to be there is insane. Assaulted crew members and
Speaker 1: let's not forget about that one fucking crazy. But looking
Speaker 1: forward to the Nicki Minaj host reunion, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I need Nikki to fucking destroy Giselle and Ashley Derby
Speaker 1: destroy happen. I'm done with Ashley. Actually, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: not even that fun or funny. I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: talking about this thing. I I was thinking last night
Speaker 1: about how Bravo went live with Brooke Ashley, one of
Speaker 1: our favorite house lives loved, but they went live with
Speaker 1: her and then they surprised brought in Ashley Derby and
Speaker 1: then Brooke was stuck to her guns and was like hello,
Speaker 1: like what basically was like? Did not? She said? She said,
Speaker 1: Ashley this season is wearing thin and she said it
Speaker 1: to her face and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: but her face when Ashley Darby came on the life,
Speaker 1: because there was like a surprise they were like, guess
Speaker 1: the mystery houselife from the chat, and she hates Ashley
Speaker 1: much so when she popped up, I saw her face
Speaker 1: and she literally was like, Ah, I loved it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go live with her this week? I think, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to live with her at some
Speaker 1: point after Wednesday, after after the part four, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna d m her because we've been we've been
Speaker 1: making plans to go live and have a glass of
Speaker 1: wine and talk house lives, and so maybe after this
Speaker 1: part four of the of the Beverly Hill drainion will
Speaker 1: do that. But can I say I'm tuning in, honey.
Speaker 1: You might even have to join up. You might have
Speaker 1: to join in. I gonna have to tune in for
Speaker 1: that one. Let's do I don't think so, honey. It
Speaker 1: is a one minute segment that is iconic for UM
Speaker 1: the way that it provides opportunity to drag something in
Speaker 1: culture UM like it's never been dragged before. It is
Speaker 1: our famous segment. I would love to go ahead and
Speaker 1: do it. This is perfect, this is Matt Rodgers. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, people saying that Dorrite and p K
Speaker 1: staged the break into their home because actually, think about
Speaker 1: this for a second. I know we don't love to read.
Speaker 1: I know we are all team Garcel as am I
Speaker 1: to the end of time. By the way, she's coming
Speaker 1: on last in April, and I said it out loud,
Speaker 1: so now it has to happen. But she's on the
Speaker 1: schedule out. We are a team gar But even not
Speaker 1: being team to read, do you think that she would
Speaker 1: put her children through that? I mean, come on, like,
Speaker 1: if that would be crazy for her to say, hey,
Speaker 1: break into my home while my kids are there, the
Speaker 1: trauma that would inflict on them, I understand she needs
Speaker 1: a narrative for next season. Is the timing weird because
Speaker 1: it was the same episode on the reunion where they
Speaker 1: talked about like, Lisa, you gotta put your dresses awhere,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna come to your house, and they came to
Speaker 1: Kyle and took all her ship and hours later Derts
Speaker 1: taking for home is broken into. Yes, it's weird, but
Speaker 1: we think she'd be that craven maybe, but I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And that's one minute, because I did
Speaker 1: entertain for a second, when we talked about it the
Speaker 1: next the morning, the morning after, I said, this seems
Speaker 1: suspicious and only I'm sorry to say, only a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They was reported that the amount of money
Speaker 1: they got away with the people that broke him amounted
Speaker 1: to about a hundred thousand dollars. And then Jared was
Speaker 1: texting me and he was saying, yeah, but that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like a couple of her drags. I mean, especially
Speaker 1: when she's got price Point on her wedding gowns. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's probably a couple of handbags, a couple
Speaker 1: of dresses. Like the fact that they were there fully
Speaker 1: broken to the house, there was more than one of
Speaker 1: them and they only made out with that much is weird.
Speaker 1: Also the fact that they were starting shooting on the
Speaker 1: new season that day that day and thee it was
Speaker 1: all a little odd, but sometimes things in life are odd. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know, Stranger than Fiction and that's a Taylor Swift song, Okay,
Speaker 1: better than Revenge, Golden Globe nominated. Did Stranger than Fiction
Speaker 1: is whateverr song titles? I don't think that's stranger than fiction?
Speaker 1: Was this is crazy that you don't know this? I
Speaker 1: don't all Taylor. But Stranger than Fiction was Oh that
Speaker 1: was um, yeah, I know where you're talking about. It
Speaker 1: was actually from like a Will Ferrell movie. It was
Speaker 1: from true. Now that's no. The Will Ferrell movie is
Speaker 1: Stranger than Fiction. But maybe Taylor has a song that's
Speaker 1: called Stranger than Fiction, Stranger Sweeter than Fiction. Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm eating crow part right now. It is from the
Speaker 1: motion picture One Chance Sweeter than Fiction. Ship. I think
Speaker 1: that's going on. Red Taylor's version pretty cool? All right?
Speaker 1: So now comes the time where it's Bowen Yang's I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And I'm thrilled to say that
Speaker 1: now is the time where I can say I'm this
Speaker 1: episode that Bowen Yang. Your time starts now, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Plastic packaging that's hard in that shell
Speaker 1: that you have to get a fucking pair of scissors
Speaker 1: out and cut through, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: by an electric razor. I cannot believe the deathmatch that
Speaker 1: I was engaged in this morning. So I could open
Speaker 1: up this electric razor that I bought on the internet,
Speaker 1: and I had to take two different pairs of scissors
Speaker 1: to cut through because the stickers the stickers weren't coming off.
Speaker 1: The packaging is so fucking like late nineties Costco bullshit,
Speaker 1: you know, like such bullshit. And I could have cut
Speaker 1: myself this morning. And I can't afford to cut myself.
Speaker 1: I have a roof to put over my head. That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm single, and no one's looking out for me but me.
Speaker 1: Single people cannot be given these things, otherwise they will
Speaker 1: not be able to provide for themselves. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to get my caretakers involved. Spoon feed me my
Speaker 1: my breakfast in the morning, all because I cut myself
Speaker 1: trying to open up a package. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: I want you to know one thing is not true.
Speaker 1: You are not the only person looking out for you.
Speaker 1: And if you ever need money, sister, if you ever
Speaker 1: need money, sister will send a check. I'm struggling. If
Speaker 1: you ever are struggling financially, girl, and that Ivory tower
Speaker 1: of thirty rock, I will send a check to the gig.
Speaker 1: What is the top number for you? I would send
Speaker 1: you a hundred dollars, bitch, I'll take it alone. For
Speaker 1: the fish. I went to the bank. I slept with
Speaker 1: the teller. I know they're tired of me, etcetera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah, Can I say something whenever you're opening up,
Speaker 1: like do you know what I'm talking about with the
Speaker 1: five million twisty things, I'm like, who is this protecting?
Speaker 1: When you're opening up like sharpies, when you're opening up
Speaker 1: like scissors, that kind of single use plant, I would
Speaker 1: consider that single use like it's not getting recycled, and
Speaker 1: nine percent of plastics get recycled. That ain't part of
Speaker 1: the that that's because by the time you open it,
Speaker 1: it's a gnarl mess. I mean you can't reuse. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just pathetic. You can't give it. Get that
Speaker 1: to a toy, to a child as a toy, cut
Speaker 1: themselves just like me. It really actually Dane Dress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fully aggress it's a weapon. And if there were
Speaker 1: an earthquake, it will become a projectile. If you had
Speaker 1: it laying around, girl, if it were an earthquake, it
Speaker 1: would become that that say that, well, thank you for
Speaker 1: supporting me financially and sort of you know, argumentatively in
Speaker 1: that I don't think so. I saidfore you all the way,
Speaker 1: and I swore you all the way. You want to
Speaker 1: know something, but I support you and I'm not even
Speaker 1: joking you do. Seeing you this past week, I thought
Speaker 1: one of the most special people on this earth, one
Speaker 1: of the funniest, effortless Jen was such a hit in
Speaker 1: such a way that I was like, yes, slay slack,
Speaker 1: thank you for saying such a such a funny. And
Speaker 1: everyone was like, this is the funny. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a I y K y k situation. If you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you know, if you know the Pantry girls,
Speaker 1: you know, and Matt nailed it and everyone it's one
Speaker 1: of those things. It's like, it's satire. You're making an
Speaker 1: observation about the world that people, you're excavating a truth
Speaker 1: and you did that. I think my sister from the
Speaker 1: autom of my heart and I want to say that
Speaker 1: seeing you this week likewise was revitalizing and everyone should
Speaker 1: watch this space on what we're working on. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give us both a break because I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to. I'm actually going to get
Speaker 1: to drinks with Amanda Study and Rachel Witski. Oh my God,
Speaker 1: tell him, I say, hi. I know it's like a
Speaker 1: little popular union, but but in order to cut this up,
Speaker 1: I actually want to sell dog. Please come back in
Speaker 1: because this is your second time, because I have I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, No, you haven't. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. I think we have to honor it and
Speaker 1: do two things. You need to do your out of
Speaker 1: think so honey, And then you need to end the
Speaker 1: episode in a song. You need to sing it. Yes,
Speaker 1: you need to sing, so do your I don't think
Speaker 1: my phone, Doug bamb this is your I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Remixing one of the best records of all times. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the Beatles and we're talking about Sergeant Pepper's
Speaker 1: Lonely Heart. I do not care if it's fifty years old.
Speaker 1: It has a place in my heart. Yes, and of
Speaker 1: the whole world has heard this record a certain way.
Speaker 1: You do not have any justification to fucking mix it.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're George Martin's son, mother, grandparents,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You are not allowed to touch that
Speaker 1: fucking record. West Montgomery did a cover of a song
Speaker 1: off of that record, So you see this guy with diamonds.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, one of the best records of all time.
Speaker 1: You are not allowed to touch it. I'm sorry, send
Speaker 1: me hate mail and strong and strong because people that
Speaker 1: did it are bad people. I don't think so huge
Speaker 1: sing you pop off like that was amazing, dog. I
Speaker 1: loved that so much. And when Doug really goes there
Speaker 1: with the knowledge, with the with the with the music,
Speaker 1: it's trivia. It's not trivia cause it's not trivial. I
Speaker 1: loved that. I want I want to hear you talk
Speaker 1: about music all the time. I really do, Doug. We're
Speaker 1: going to collect ourselves and as we do, can you
Speaker 1: can you take me so I can't singing. Don't make
Speaker 1: me sing a song. Come on, I can't sing at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking an easy one happy birthday. Now you're
Speaker 1: making me look stupid. That's a hard song. No, it
Speaker 1: has one hard note, the third one. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't here. I've embarrassed myself enough. Okay, I have I
Speaker 1: have a song. Okay, Hey, what's what do you years ago?
Speaker 1: A day? Whoa whoa? That there we have it supported? Well,
Speaker 1: it's because you weren't supported by Doug and including you
Speaker 1: in this episode was a big mistake. That the way
Speaker 1: the way you throw it us under the bus at
Speaker 1: the end, you know what, I gotta guy drinks by you.
Speaker 1: I love you, Doug,