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Speaker 1: need to, like I think it's I think I'm due

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Speaker 1: for I'm sure you don't feel this way, but I

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Speaker 1: truly feel the pole to really and this is gonna

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Speaker 1: sound so annoying, but to really get back into the Beatles,

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Speaker 1: into the Beatles. Yeah, you know, I have the White

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Speaker 1: Album on vinyl. That's one of the best albums of

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Speaker 1: all time. I go, I Am, I was, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was like I was doing this thing with Cecily

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Speaker 1: and then like one of the producers was this big

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Speaker 1: beetle head, like the Liverpool came up or something, and

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Speaker 1: then Cecily was just rattling off all of these things

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Speaker 1: about the Beatles, and I was just there being like, oh, yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: that doc came out about you know, let it Be

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Speaker 1: and that concert on the Roof when they, you know,

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Speaker 1: were hating each other. And apparently this documentary talks about

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Speaker 1: how it's like the actual footage from that time and

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Speaker 1: like they were actually in a good place, but they

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Speaker 1: had to like put forward this and I'm probably butchering

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Speaker 1: this and p and readers are probably seeing the dock

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Speaker 1: and can attest to this, but like it's about how

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Speaker 1: like they were kind of in a decent place, even

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Speaker 1: though they were supposed to put forth the image of

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Speaker 1: where there's tension, which is such an interesting inversion of

447
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Speaker 1: like what celebrity sort of image usually is about it

448
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: They're you're supposed to get along and but actually they

449
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Speaker 1: hate each other. This was like the opposite. And but anyway,

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00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Cecily was writtling off all these Beatles facts, and I

451
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Speaker 1: was like, I used to be so fucking into them

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Speaker 1: really late high school, early college, like early college was

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Speaker 1: what was when I was like, oh wait, like Brian Wilson,

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Speaker 1: like I need to get back into like the Beach Boys,

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Speaker 1: so deep into the Beach Boys, and like I was,

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Speaker 1: I was, I'm just I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: most important pop cultural moments when well, no, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: saying it was when it was Beatles came out with

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Speaker 1: like Revolver, and then so Brian Wilson was like, we

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Speaker 1: need to make an album that's as good as this.

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Speaker 1: They made Pet Sounds, and then Paul McCartney and I

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Speaker 1: was John Lennon or is one like the Beatles were

463
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Speaker 1: basically we need to make an album as good as this,

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Speaker 1: like like that little like exchange that back and forth,

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Speaker 1: like making like three incredible pop albums rock albums. I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that must have been crazy. That must have been like

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Speaker 1: you know, when Beyonce came out with self titled and

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Speaker 1: then Taylor came out with they Were the Original be

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Speaker 1: and Taylor. That was that was when the girls were growing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is when going to you, what do you

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Speaker 1: have to say the Beatles? I mean, you're you're Beatles?

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Speaker 1: Were you dog whistling him? No? I was not talking.

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Speaker 1: I've honestly been thinking of this a lot. Dog go ahead.

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Speaker 1: The Beatles are single handedly the most important thing in

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Speaker 1: pop music. I mean, everything changed, it all went. Can

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Speaker 1: you school us like, like, can you give us like

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Speaker 1: the quick quick sparks notes, cliffs notes? I mean the Beatles.

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Speaker 1: Every everyone knows. I mean we're we're not saying anything

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Speaker 1: new obviously, but I think it's important for not not

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Speaker 1: enough of us, like millennial gen z cuspic gaze, like

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Speaker 1: I think the children have forgotten. We know about the

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Speaker 1: British invasion, we know about the of Beatlemania, we know

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Speaker 1: about you know, it was truly the first like or

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Speaker 1: not the first BLUs Elvis, but like It was an

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Speaker 1: iconic moment of intense fandom that was felt all around

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Speaker 1: the globe. But tell us something we don't know, Doug.

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Speaker 1: I mean they affected everybody. They weren't macho like, affected

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Speaker 1: every culture. That's why they're the Beatles. They literally everything

489
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Speaker 1: comes from the Beatles that I can see. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift wouldn't exist without the Beatles. And that's the way.

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Speaker 1: That's the way you sort of get us to listen. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm gonna I'm gonna, as the kids say,

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Speaker 1: gag you. Doug and Bowen, you must have been shook. Went.

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Speaker 1: So we were in Ohio at this restaurant, and why

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Speaker 1: did you I don't understand why you left? Talk here. No,

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Speaker 1: we will just miss you when we will just this

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Speaker 1: are the rules of you coming in, come in uninvited,

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Speaker 1: and then you leave when we say it can happen

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Speaker 1: one more time after this. Don't sunk up again. I've

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Speaker 1: been having a lot of fun with you today and

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Speaker 1: it could end like that. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something,

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Speaker 1: and don't leave in the middle of me telling you something.

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Speaker 1: We went to a restaurant in OHI called the Each House.

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Speaker 1: It was lovely and wet in there. We have this

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Speaker 1: amazing waitress a five course in five course, let's just

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Speaker 1: describe the vibe. The vibe was like, oh, I bet

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Speaker 1: those trees, the little little bridges to different areas, um,

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Speaker 1: it felt like a chic costa folklore, very folklore. And

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Speaker 1: and and then me and Study and Matt were are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is the kind of restaurant that like probably was

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Speaker 1: huge and so she can cool in the sixties. Like

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Speaker 1: we said that to each other, like this is a

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Speaker 1: place where you probably imagine like people in the sixties

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Speaker 1: coming to and feeling very I don't know, just refined

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Speaker 1: or cultured. And then our waitress tells us. We're like,

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Speaker 1: this is such a lovely We were complimenting the place,

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Speaker 1: how much fun we had, and we were saying the

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Speaker 1: move food was great, and she goes, well, you know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of history here. Well, the first thing

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Speaker 1: she says was I waited on Luke Bryant. And we

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Speaker 1: were like oh. And then she goes and right over

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Speaker 1: that bridge is where John and Yoko wrote A man imagine. Wow, yeah, Doug,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on pet sounds? This and the Beatles?

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Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on I love Pet Sounds

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Speaker 1: maybe my my favorite album of all time. It's up

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00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: there for sure. The harmonies and things are unprecedented. They

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Speaker 1: went other places baroque pop. You don't get Fleet Foxes

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Speaker 1: without Pet Sounds. You don't get tight, tight harmonies like

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Speaker 1: that without the Beach Boys in general, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: like they didn't invent harmonies, but they like it was

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Speaker 1: very like I mean, like, was Phil Specter involved with

532
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys ever? It just felt like very wall

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Speaker 1: of Sounds without Phil Spector's taint on it. I don't remember,

534
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: got it. It wasn't Phil Specterr more of the ladies

535
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Speaker 1: of the time. Phil Spectrm was more of the ladies.

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00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: But like I think, but I'm saying in terms of

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Speaker 1: like that lush Yeah, the wall of sound music wall

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00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: like that was like his thing, and like I feel

539
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: like Pet Sounds was that concurrently or maybe slightly before slightly.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I'm bad with my music history. But Doug,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite? What's your favorite album of all time?

542
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Do you have one? Do you have to top three?

543
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: Top two? I mean Pet Sounds is up there, really,

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00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Revolver is up there. I'm putting you on the spot.

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00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and you look uncomfortable. It was. It's just

546
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: it's one of those questions where you you listen to

547
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: something and then you love it, and then somebody asked you.

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: That's a horrible I hate myself for asking. Now, don't

549
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: worry Doug. Why would you hate yourself for asking this

550
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: man who's a musician, what is top three albums of

551
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: all time? Are the fact that he can't answer. It's

552
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: like when people ask you, like who your favorite actresses

553
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: or like what your favorite like, Yeah, Kirsten Dunce, let's

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00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: move on, and that's coming onto the chat? Anna Anna

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00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: what bye? And this is just a nightmare. Okay, you

556
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: know what do you go? You can come in on

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Speaker 1: one time later. I love Doug. I mean, he's really

558
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Speaker 1: the star of the episode, isn't He's the star? His

559
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: name is in the title. Sorry is what got you

560
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: thinking of all this when she said that? Because when

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Speaker 1: she said that John and Yoko wrote Imagine at that restaurant,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, and then I realized

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Speaker 1: they probably were on an absolute metric ton of of something,

564
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Speaker 1: of of of drugs. I mean, it's the most stoner

565
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: slash like l s d song of all time. Imagine

566
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Speaker 1: there's no heaven. Whoa but you you go up to

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Speaker 1: O hi, and I'm telling you something. Purple Mountain majesty

568
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: above the fruited plane. Say that it wasn't so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I know we were the only fruits there. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say that it was a very straight energy and oh Hi,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. I'm just saying there's no fruited planes

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Speaker 1: in OHI, I don't think, but it's really lovely. Oh No.

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Speaker 1: What got me into the Beatles thing was just like

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cecily talking about them like really like stirred

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Speaker 1: something in me. I Kayla stirback my good friend from

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Speaker 1: high school. She was on the improv team with me.

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Speaker 1: I hope she's doing well. I have I've done a

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: bad job of reconnecting with her. But she was like

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Speaker 1: the big Beatles girl, and like Kayla had the best

580
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: music taste because she because she was the one who

581
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: was like, you gotta listen to the new Fergie song

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00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: for Delicious or London Bridge or whatever, and will also

583
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: being like you know who Elliott Smith is? Do you

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Speaker 1: know stevens is? I was like, this girl gets it.

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Speaker 1: That's the embracing of high and low that we need

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00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: in life and people need to be more like ms

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Speaker 1: was Kayla, miss Kayla Stirback and she, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: she was the one to like. She was so fucking

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Speaker 1: cool and we like we like saw borat together and

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Speaker 1: like she was a fucking cool and guess what was

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00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: also obsessed with Kirston looked like Kirston a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Like told me. She was like, she was like, you

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Speaker 1: gotta read the Virgin Suicides. You gotta watch it. I

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Speaker 1: was like, like, you gotta know about Jeffrey Ugenity's whatever.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like this girl, I she was

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Speaker 1: one of those like I think, let's make up a

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00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: new term, okay for icon of high school girlfriends. Well, no, no,

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Speaker 1: not even high school. It's like a cultural shirt, a

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Speaker 1: cultural guide, a cultural like steward. She was a cultural

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Speaker 1: She introduced me. I'm like, my I think Yang my

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00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: sisters is definitely that introduced me to a lot. And

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00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: then by the time I got to high school, it

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Speaker 1: was Kayla Kayla like told me what was up anyway?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's it's absolutely fabulous

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Speaker 1: to say that someone was a cultural stewardess that to me,

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Speaker 1: that sounds a little too like service E. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I don't think that's but that's you disrespecting um steward.

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting. I'm acknowledging to call it service and

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Speaker 1: do that little handshake you that I'm acknowledging the power

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00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: dynamic that is inherent in that outdated job title. But

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Speaker 1: but to say, to say that someone stewarded me through

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Speaker 1: something means that they put in care into, like you know, service,

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Speaker 1: serving me something. Damn, I guess I've really I guess

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I've found myself in a little a little circular logic thing.

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Speaker 1: But who do you have your I think study was

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Speaker 1: probably one of ours. Both of ours. Study was like

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Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. I think study definitely changed the

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Speaker 1: way I saw a lot of things in high school.

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Speaker 1: It was for me, it was a lot of the

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Speaker 1: I to know, I really wasn't and I never really did.

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Speaker 1: But I would say that it was a lot of

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Speaker 1: my friends from my cross country team, which I've discussed

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, like I had older friends, and like

624
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Speaker 1: what made the cross country kids different from the kids

625
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: did other sports is for me was they liked like

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Speaker 1: classic rock and like fun rock music like that was

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Speaker 1: the only exposure to Queen I ever had, which I loved.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's for me. That was probably because

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Speaker 1: a lot of this I wasn't. I was I would

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Speaker 1: only find something if it was really popular, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't have that. I don't know, I didn't. I guess

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Speaker 1: you know. I did. I have an uncle that was cool.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't one uncle that I remember. It was really

634
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: important to me that I play him since you've been gone,

635
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: because his opinion of it meant a lot to me.

636
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: And I remember I played him the song and I said,

637
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I remember I was like fit fourteen, and I was like,

638
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: it's very eighties rock. No, and he goes not know

639
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: and he did? He throw me a bone? He was like,

640
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: it is very eighties rock. And I remember being like, yes,

641
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: got Uncle Chris to sign off on this song. Kelly

642
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: is a rock goddess. It's interesting to think about. I mean,

643
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: we literally this weekend in OHI did some throwbacks for

644
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: a couple of movies. We we only watched old Ship.

645
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: We only watched old Ship. Actually thinks from like things

646
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: that came out between two thousand and seven and two ten,

647
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: was it was okay? So reader, we we we watched

648
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Jennifer's Body and Rena and went in Miami, which we've

649
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: recently talked about, I think with Sarah with Sarah Sarah squirm. Yeah, yeah,

650
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: both wonderful, wonderful. Study had never seen Jennifer's Body, and

651
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: we on this podcast last Culture just believe that Jennifer's

652
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Body is an underrated gym and that actually it's one

653
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: of Diablo Cody's best I think that's widely agreed upon.

654
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. People don't say that.

655
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Sure they do know there's a disrespect of Jennifer's body

656
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: that happens amongst the mainstream conversation about it. They don't

657
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: talk about it because I don't know. I don't think.

658
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: It's obviously not one of her more serious efforts, at

659
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: least on face value. But there's a lot of very

660
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: cool themes in there that I think we rediscovered and

661
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: watching it again, and Megan Fox is great and Amanda

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Seyfrid is fucking great, and it's so good in it,

663
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: so great, and I mean, yeah, you and Study talked

664
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: about how it's obviously like deb Cody's queerest movie, but

665
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: it's also like so about queerness without it being cheaply

666
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: centered on the moment where like they make out. It's like,

667
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: oh no, you can kind of like it's if you

668
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: think about it, it's like, no, Amanda's eyfread like that character,

669
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: um isn't fully maybe fully in love with this boyfriend

670
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: and that like literally she's getting fucked by him and

671
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: all she and like she because of this bond she

672
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: has with Jennifer, is only thinking about her, picturing her,

673
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: sensing her as she's getting as she's as she's as

674
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: she's being like penetrated, and so it's like, whoa, that

675
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: is so so rich, so great, like not too on

676
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: the nose, like such a great piece of like queer cinema.

677
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I also think it's it

678
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: just I mean I think that they've said this, but

679
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: maybe the marketing of it missed the market because they

680
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: marketed it at the time Two Boys, because it was

681
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: like Megan Fox was of course sex symbol of that time. Meanwhile,

682
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: it's like deeply about female friendship and um, you know,

683
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I believe like queer sexuality in high school and figuring

684
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: that out, and you know, there is um a lot

685
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: in there about like when a girl achieves a certain

686
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: level of sexuality that men feel they can just take

687
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: that from her, because I mean, I mean, Jennifer is

688
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: murdered and assaulted in the in the in the film,

689
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: and it's just it's a really it's a much more

690
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: interesting movie than I think people thought of it at

691
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: the time. And I also don't think a lot of

692
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: people saw it because there was this um predetermination to

693
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 1: not take her seriously Megan Fox, right, And like, first

694
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: of all, there were so many times in that movie

695
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: where I turned both through, you know, I was just

696
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: like She's, Wow, how did she how is she doing that? Um?

697
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: But which is not to like patronizingly be like I

698
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: didn't know Megan Fox could act good. That's not what

699
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just saying, like there's just such a

700
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: mechanical technical skill in that and what she's doing. But like, no, literally,

701
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: she and Diabolic Cody did like, uh, you know, a

702
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: tenth anniversary interview rees like a couple of years ago,

703
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: and it's just the two of them talking to each other.

704
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: It's such a good interview. It's such a great interview

705
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: for the both of them, and they both talked about

706
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: how it sucked, and it was so maddening the way

707
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: they marketed it and the way they the way it tested,

708
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: and like all of these things. They were like, this

709
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like this is in what the movie is

710
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: and why why is it about like tits and ass

711
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: when it's like about something I don't know, like so

712
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: much more meaningful and and and nuanced and like I

713
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Layer, Yeah, it's definitely worth a rewatch because

714
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: even in rewatching it, like I always when I'm discussing

715
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the movie, it was clear to me when I saw

716
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: this this most recent time that it had been a while,

717
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: because I usually always say whenever we're discussing Jennifer's body

718
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: that the only part of the movie that doesn't ring

719
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: true for me is the sex scene between them. But

720
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: then in this viewing of it, I was like, this

721
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: actually works for me because this is an actual erotic

722
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: moment between them, because it's the first truly erotic moment

723
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: of Amanda Sypherd's character's life, and especially in contrast with

724
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: her sexual experience with her boyfriend in the movie. It's

725
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: it really, it just jumps out and you remember it

726
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: because it actually means something to her, And I didn't

727
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: pick up on my first viewings of this movie. I've

728
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: seen it at least twice before, but um, there's that

729
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: moment where Megan goes to we play boy, Like what

730
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: what was it like? There's just like an illusions boyfriend

731
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: girlfriend something like that where it's like it's alluded to,

732
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: and then in the flashbacks it's like, oh, these girls

733
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: are connected through literal blood and also through some like

734
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: emotional investment where they've seen each other where it makes

735
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: sense that they're friends first of all, and then it

736
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense that they would hook up that way,

737
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: especially after Megan's like coming off of like spoiler alert,

738
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: killing a guy, glowing, feeling like in her element in

739
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: her prime, feeling like she's empowered enough to like for her,

740
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: it's a neurotic for Megan. For Jennifer, it's a neurotic

741
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: experience too, because she doesn't need to hook up with

742
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: her Like she's hooking up with boys and killing them

743
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: because she needs to live as a demon. But she

744
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: doesn't need to hook up with Amanda Seyfrid's character out

745
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: of necessity, you know, she doesn't literally doesn't need to

746
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: do that, and so she's it's both of them, for

747
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: both of them. It's this pleasurable experience like that is,

748
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: and and why wouldn't female sexuality be anything but that

749
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: for these characters. I think it's so great. Yeah, and

750
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: it's funny, and it's a lot of it really is

751
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: super funny. The performances are good, so that song really

752
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: and it's truly like returning a lot throughout the movie

753
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: in a really fun way. The fact that it's such

754
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: a good hook lucky sort of makes the way that

755
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: they get corrupted by him make a lot of sense

756
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: because he is this like you know, Adam Brody on

757
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: the movie Who's Such Who, He's great, and he is

758
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: this douchebag rocker, but then when he sings it's this

759
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: essentially like crooney, mid tempo pop song that the girls

760
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: swoon over, and you know, ultimately he takes advantage of them.

761
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: But it's just like, I don't know, it's it's just

762
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a much more interesting movie than I think people gave

763
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: it credit for. And also another thing we have to

764
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: think about two is and still to this day this

765
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: is the case, but the way movies get reviewed it

766
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: really matters because and this is why we need like

767
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: a diverse um population in terms of who is reviewing

768
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: the films right, So, and the answer is not always

769
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: if it's a queer movie, get the queer person to

770
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: review it, just because honestly, they they're they're often much

771
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: harder than anyone else on their own representation. That's a

772
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: whole other thing we could digress about, um, which we won't.

773
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: But I just think probably probably what happened at the

774
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: time was if it wasn't majority male movie reviewers, you know,

775
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: seeing that movie and then spitting their opinion out on it,

776
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: it was female reviewers in the context of film criticism

777
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: at that time, which is, you know, you really do

778
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: want to be taken seriously. And I just think so

779
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: much that the the prism and the lens through which

780
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: we see movies like that at the time, it really

781
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: didn't stand a chance at getting taken super seriously. And

782
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: it is an audacious script, and she was a lightning

783
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: rod figure, Megan Fox. And so I wonder if it

784
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: gets released now, and I do think it holds up

785
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: how it's how it's reviewed now, you know, I wonder,

786
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: that's a really great observation, really great observation. You were

787
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: the smartest girl, you know, that's not true. I think

788
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: the smartest girl is probably Greta. Um wait, when when

789
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: you were again pantry girl, Jen you were when you

790
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: were describing Adam Brodie's band, you said crooney, which I

791
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna I think, did you mean to

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: say rooney? No, but they were very ruoney asked, but

793
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: it was very rooney asked. And do you remember do

794
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: you remember Queen Somewhere only, I Love, I Love. I

795
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: thought that was I thought that was the best song

796
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: in the world. It's a very good song. And that

797
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: that that talk about like big old monster hook and

798
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: that whole deal. Whoa. I remember Blake Lewis did it

799
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: on the American Idol one time, and I was like,

800
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you better sing because he was just at the time

801
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: to completely date the world right now. What a what

802
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: a great belt on that male belt on that song though, absolutely,

803
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: and I'm getting to and then d yeah, such a

804
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: good I mean literally that like speaking of that time,

805
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: you know what else I was obsessed with at the time.

806
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: It is one of the best pop songs ever, Like

807
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: like a couple of months ago, it was like right

808
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: when the pandemic seemed like it was truly ending. And

809
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: then the delta variant popped up a bunch of house Schliker,

810
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: like a bunch of us, Like we all went to

811
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Jared was there full four months ago, right, but we

812
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: all went to this thing in l A which was

813
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: like it was truly like a pop of the two

814
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: thousand's party was at a bar or no, but I

815
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: told you about it. I forget. I don't know what

816
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: venue it was, but I'm telling you, Ale Down, Sugar,

817
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Were Sugar, We're Going Down has to be one of

818
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: the best pop songs ever. It was so good. And

819
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: also another song that came on and hit me in

820
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: my fucking talk about talked about this, Yeah, what hit

821
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: your problem? Mr? Bright Side? Bitch, Oh don't eat Mr

822
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: bright Side. It was like it was like a big again.

823
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: Really talk about this, talk about this synesthesia of hearing

824
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: the song and feeling that you were getting penetry coming

825
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: out on my cage. And I've been doing just gotta

826
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: be down because I want it all. So you're saying

827
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: there's like a kinetic energy too. I mean that hot

828
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: fuss that is that is one of the best, That

829
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: is one of the best albums of that decade. They

830
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: were so good and all these things that I've done love.

831
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean that was the best time truth and hearts

832
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: that and that guitar is just that instrumental stretch. Yeah,

833
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: I want to set up, I want to go Yes,

834
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: so good, Oh my god. Yeah that that that was

835
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: a really good era. And at the time I was

836
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: like afraid of panic at the disco, but then they

837
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: played like I write since not tragedies um at the

838
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: event and I was like, wow, this is something that

839
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: is important, so good and smile like you mean it.

840
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm still on the killers, Like oh I'm

841
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: Holistically a music like that was truly but talk about

842
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: like that was formative music for us. I mean being

843
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: in high school, you never forget like everyone's gonna happen.

844
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: That's just it for us. It's the attachment in that

845
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: critical time and like love that the kids have these

846
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: these these this music now because I think it's it

847
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: is a very good time in music. It's something so

848
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: precious and nostalgic, not to wax too wistful about it,

849
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: but it's so oh, it's so powerful. I'm gonna make

850
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna make You're so good to make a

851
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: play you know that one of everyone, all the readers

852
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: that know any they know a thing, know that one

853
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: of bone young superpowers, you have the gay power of playlists.

854
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: But can I it is one of the gay powers.

855
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Can I just say? Though? Lately, I've felt very self

856
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: conscious about this thing that I do, where I'm like,

857
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: who am I to be so histrionic to think I'm

858
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna put together songs that other people have made and

859
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: kind of curate them. Oh God, that word, But they're

860
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: not You're in doing that. You're not saying I'm a

861
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: curator of something. You're just saying like you're in that,

862
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: and that it's like something where it's like, now take

863
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: me seriously, or like you're doing something that you enjoy

864
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: and sharing it. Just look at it like that. And

865
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: I've lately have been doing like fun Little Mood to

866
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: my boss battle music I did. I've been like city

867
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: pop stuff like everyone already knows about everyone. I love

868
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: it when I'm saying people know about city pop outside

869
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: of this podcast. But I think I think we need

870
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to make like early like mid Auts when we were

871
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: in high school, that music we've talked about, like taking

872
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: back to Sunday. I feel like this is a difference,

873
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: is a slightly different adjacent area where it's like, honestly

874
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: not ashamed to admit it, was obsessed with Switchfoot. Oh

875
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: love switch Foot, especially after I watch I remember it's

876
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: like that switch Foot. Yeah, I liked them too because

877
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: they did because they did a cover of only Hope.

878
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: Yes they did, and then he fucking goes for the

879
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: belt on the bridge. Well he can sing there. Yeah,

880
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean liked never. I mean they're there's so there's

881
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: so much because it's just like and again, I wish

882
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: I hadn't um been so afraid to like what I

883
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: liked truly in high school because I don't really liked

884
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: that and other people liked that too, Yeah, because they

885
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: were the only thing I really was like, No, I

886
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: don't like them, despite the fact that I probably did.

887
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: Was this I'm Good Charlotte because it was the all

888
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: loved good Charlotte. But the emo of it all was

889
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: not something that I could to liking at the time

890
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: for some reason, for whatever reason that makes sense. But

891
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, god, I just I just yeah, what I

892
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: would have what a fun little time like like like

893
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: kind of like matched, Oh my god, did you ever

894
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: listen to stars? What is stars? Uh? Your x um

895
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: set yourself on fire, your ex lover is dead. I

896
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: don't know this. Oh my you st Oh, you're gonna

897
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: fucking freak if you, if you, if you're in the

898
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: mindset to go back to that time. This is like

899
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: something I don't think they were ever on Gray's and

900
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: like the early seasons, but like it would be like

901
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: something that they would play on Gray's when like you know,

902
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: like Derek and Meredith would like pass over each other

903
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: in the hallway. Right. So my favorite type of music, well,

904
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: basically my favorite type of music was Gray's Anatomy climbax scene.

905
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Well can you okay? So the music Literally think I

906
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: think we've talked about her before on the pod Alex Pastavas.

907
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm not even looking anything. I can just recall her name,

908
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: music supervisor for Gray's Anatomy for many seasons. I don't

909
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: think she works there anymore, but she was also the

910
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: music supervisor on the o C. A perfect woman, a

911
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: perfect woman, but like truly someone who crafted sensibilities and

912
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: a literal tastemaker. Was soundtracking all of our teenage years

913
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: alongside you know, Ryan and Morissa and and everybody you

914
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: know and Seth and oh my god, what was the

915
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: summer or summer perfect music for that show. Yeah, what

916
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: an important job. If you're a music supervisor and you

917
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: do that job well, that is that can be one

918
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: of the most impactful jobs in showbiz. Yeah, I think that,

919
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean the music of any project, just like so

920
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: like I remember, like when Jared was putting his movie together,

921
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: The Fine and we were talking about the music so

922
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: much and he loves music so much, like and so

923
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the musical element of Three Months,

924
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: especially because Choice Savon is starring in it. You know. Actually,

925
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: like I've heard some of the music that he's done

926
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: for it, and it's so good. But I think I

927
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: think Jared played me one soide he did and I

928
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, it's really really good. People should be

929
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: excited about what Choice savan is going to bring in

930
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: the next year. So like, which is which is really

931
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: super excit something because we've been excited for many years.

932
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: I've loved Troy since I first saw him, when I

933
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: saw like a little twinkie pop star who was just

934
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean when he was on NL and just like

935
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: fully like giving it I was I was doing that

936
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: was bluem Era, Yeah, but I was loving Troy even

937
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: before that, Yeah neighorhood, blue neighborhood is a blue neighbor

938
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: the song blue Neighbor is so good. Yeah anyway, sorry,

939
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: but um, Troy. I mean, I'm just saying like everyone

940
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: should be should be psyched about the turn that Troy's

941
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: career is about to take, because it's gonna be very

942
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: very cool. Okay, So wait, I'm loving living in this

943
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: nostalgia era and I know, but I also feel that

944
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: it's a connector because one thing that's resumed this year,

945
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: which we're both into we haven't talked about yet Survivor.

946
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: This Survivor. So this episode pissed me off because I

947
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a t but a fun twist, but a fun

948
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: twist that might not actually have much consequence. I think

949
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: it'll be like a nothing burger by the next episode.

950
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: Are we both loving the I mean, the season has

951
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: a main character. This season has at main character. Her

952
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: name is Shan, also known as the Mafia Pastor. I mean,

953
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: one of the most compelling biopackages you could ask for

954
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: in reality television. I mean literally, I I'm loving what

955
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: they're doing narratively with the season because I feel like

956
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: you're really getting to know all the quick characters as

957
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: it were, and they they're doing this thing where like

958
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: in the narrative they'll drop it all away and you'll

959
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: see like footage from their old life. They never used

960
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: to do that very great British bakeoff. Yeah, it seems

961
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: like maybe the show was being edited by edited by

962
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: a different person, or the show or the whole series

963
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: has a different take on what it's doing in a

964
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: way that I'm really enjoying. I'm loving the season. I

965
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: think they really took it seriously. They were like, after

966
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: forty let's reset it in some way, not hard reset,

967
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: but let's reset it in some small aesthetic ways that

968
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: will actually make a big impact. And narratively, I think

969
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: that is really reverberating. And I was saying when you

970
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: were like, it's you're getting to know these people. We're

971
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: only like six episodes in. It's it's early days. I

972
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: mean we got to the merge, but early days. And

973
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I feel like I kind of have

974
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: a read on these people, and I'm kind of i

975
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: and I think there's room to be surprised and delighted

976
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: and shocked, um, but I feel like I'm already really

977
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: attached to these people. Well, you know, you notice now

978
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: more than ever that casting is everything because the people

979
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: on this season that soever, they're all interesting in dynamic

980
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's also thems then what we should say it

981
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: is the most diverse group there's ever been, so that's

982
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: been a real strength of it. But it's also like

983
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: you compare it to this season of Drag Race UK,

984
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, it's that just goes to show

985
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like a whole season of television can can live and

986
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: die on casting. Well literally, i mean like All Stars

987
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: Too is like a perfect example, like you absolutely stacked

988
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: people on that cast. Yeah, I mean you us season

989
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: thirteen incredible, incredible casting. But it's like and for an

990
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: all star season of a show, it's like that's different

991
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: because you're pulling from you know, past contestants. But you

992
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: know this is so I think they did a great

993
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: job on Survivor this season. Yeah, I think Jeff really

994
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: likes them, if that means anything. I'm loving Jeff this season.

995
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: He is on one and I love that. Can you

996
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: just name another legend? We don't stand too many straight

997
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: white sis sis men on this pod? He would be

998
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure we do. Do you think he would ever

999
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: come to this show. He wouldn't get it. He would

1000
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: he knows how to talk to a queer person, like

1001
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: there's there's been queers on the show since season one. Okay,

1002
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: do you remember in the first episode when he was

1003
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: like that the whole on the compendium on guys. When

1004
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: that was happening, I was like I kind of was

1005
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: rolling my eyes and like, is this performed? And then

1006
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you know what, I'm still knowing

1007
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: that I know knowing that what I know about this person,

1008
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, is this definitely happening on CBS in a

1009
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: way where it's like, look at us having the conversation. Sure,

1010
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: but also I bet he genuinely used to respect everyone

1011
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: on that she wants to know and not for any

1012
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: like I roll compulsory, Oh I gotta do this. I

1013
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: think he's genuinely like, I'm fascinated by people, especially people

1014
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: who want to do this show, and I want to

1015
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: make sure I like have a care and a consideration

1016
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: into like how I talk to these people as a

1017
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: group and individually. Like he's god, Like he's like he

1018
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: is the reality show host. Yeah, I mean, if he

1019
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: were still like eligible for the Emmy like, I don't.

1020
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe people have just kind of feel like

1021
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: they've seen Survivor, but a Lifetime Achievement awards, he's won

1022
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: a couple in the beginning, but he gat himself out.

1023
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: But the thing too, for people that don't know what

1024
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about. In the very first episode of the

1025
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: season of Survivor, he said, well, you know, one of

1026
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: my iconic things I say is come on, And he

1027
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: then put to the cast. The second they get on

1028
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: the on the boat and they they're first all introduced,

1029
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: He's like, who has a problem with me saying come on?

1030
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: In guys, because if one person does, I won't say

1031
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: it anymore. I want to move forward. I want the

1032
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: show to adapt and evolve and change in a fully

1033
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: well intentioned way. And the one well, the one queer

1034
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: woman was not the one queer woman, but one of

1035
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: the queer women. Heavy said, or you know what, I

1036
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: believe that they're non binary. They referred to themselves as

1037
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: a woman, refer to themselves as a queer woman. But

1038
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: I believe in press materials after the show that they're

1039
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: non binary. So let's just refer to them as they

1040
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: and say they said that they did not have a

1041
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: problem with come on guys. That's a colloquialism. Then later

1042
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: in the episode, another clear another queer contestant, Ricard said

1043
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: I thought about what you said, and I don't think

1044
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: we need come on guys. And so Jeff has retired

1045
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: come on guys, just like that, in a way that

1046
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: was not like begrudging. Literally he made the terms clear,

1047
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: if one person has an issue with it, I will

1048
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: not say it anymore. And then one person said it

1049
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: and was and then he was like in a different

1050
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: at a different time, and he was like, Okay, great,

1051
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: what if he had been like, actually, that was the

1052
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: thing for yesterday and we used too long. So I'm

1053
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna keep saying. I mean this is I mean, I

1054
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: think he his brain is on another level because too

1055
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: to comment, to commentate or whatever on the actual challenges

1056
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: the way he does, for he has done for two

1057
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: decades at this point, that takes like such a skill,

1058
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: such a such a such an awareness of how entertainment

1059
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: is communicated, of like how to like just tell a story.

1060
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: I just think he's a genius. And you know the

1061
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: fact is, they don't always get it right on that show.

1062
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: There have been there have been whole seasons of the

1063
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: show which are like unwatchable because of the way they

1064
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: bungle certain social issues. I'm thinking specifically about season thirty

1065
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: nine with um, you know, Kelly Kim being assaulted and

1066
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: that that he was not taken off right away, but

1067
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: or fucking what's her face? The cops are us girl?

1068
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, you know, that's the whole thing,

1069
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: and I'm itself, Sarah. But the fact is CBS, I

1070
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: don't think there probably is a more conservative viewers ship,

1071
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: Like there's a loyal viewership of CBS which is older

1072
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: and mail, which is why they have n c I

1073
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: S fucking every city and the c S I S

1074
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: and all that. The impact is huge, right, and so

1075
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: this is still a very widely watched show. And so

1076
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: the fact that that conversation happened, even if I thought

1077
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: to myself, like who are they doing this? For the

1078
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: fact that that conversation is happening on a show like that,

1079
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: that's it is important and I do see the value

1080
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: when it I'm sure there was I mean, there was

1081
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: like blowback from like there was Ricard was saying he

1082
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: got a lot of hate for bringing it up again,

1083
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm sure I'm positive. In fact, I probably

1084
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: remember reading this that week that a lot of queer

1085
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: people who watched everything like, oh my god, what a

1086
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: fucking iro roll like and then it's like, well then

1087
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: it sucks. It's like they're damned if they do and

1088
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: they're damned if they don't. That's kind of what I'm

1089
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: saying about, like as queer people, like maybe maybe that

1090
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: moment actually isn't for for us as much as it

1091
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: is for people. For me, it's not for me at all.

1092
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I will say in publicly

1093
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: that I will every now and then throw around the

1094
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: guys when I know I'm a mixed company in terms

1095
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: of in terms of gender, and I'm just like I

1096
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: would think that I don't know. I mean, that's not

1097
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: up to me to say, but like, I'm not even

1098
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: asking myself that question the way that Jeff is. And

1099
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of other people identify with this,

1100
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's it feels like excessive or cartuitous or something.

1101
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think about that Waham episode

1102
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: all the fucking time. From Trell, the episode that Studio

1103
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: wrote that you were in. I talked about it with

1104
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: Vanessa the other day. I was like, I think about

1105
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: that episode all the time where it's like, sometimes when

1106
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: you think something is for you, it might not be

1107
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: and that's okay, and it's for it's for someone who

1108
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: needs to hear this because they don't have the same

1109
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: sort of social environment contours there, the their awareness is

1110
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: not is not as filled in as yours. You know,

1111
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: like that that's what we're that's what we have here. Well,

1112
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I remember when because we were watching separately obviously, but

1113
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: when when it got to that point in the episode,

1114
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: I texted you and I said, I think I said

1115
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: something like L O L this compendium on guys And

1116
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you think about this? And

1117
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: you were like, it's I roll, but I guess it's

1118
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: not for me to say and I and then I realized,

1119
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's actually not for us to say.

1120
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: It's for someone who wants it changed to speak up

1121
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: and say. And then someone in the episode did do that.

1122
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: I have started to you know, because guys is such

1123
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: a colloquialism, it's such a cultural colloquialism that it is

1124
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: that one thing where when I when I was was

1125
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: first brought to my attention to maybe eliminated. I think

1126
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: there was a defensive thing where I was like, really,

1127
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: we can't say like, hey, guys, like even though it's like,

1128
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, well intentioned. And then I really thought to myself, like,

1129
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's never going to bother me, so why

1130
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: so it's not for me to say? And I've started

1131
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: taking it out of like, you know, from writing an email,

1132
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: like I will take that word out. If I'm using

1133
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: social media in a way, I will take that word

1134
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: and I'll say, folks, I'll say all because it's easy

1135
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: for me and it helps people feel good. So why

1136
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't you do it? You know? I this is this

1137
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: is I should not be bringing this up. But I

1138
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like there there was like internally some like queer

1139
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: blowback on people. I think. I think it's I think

1140
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: now a lot of people that I know are like,

1141
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: I roll of all. I rolls when they see folks

1142
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: with an X written out in the in an earnest way,

1143
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, see, like, is there such a thing

1144
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: as like overcorrecting the absolutely? But you have to do

1145
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: that to arrive at a place that's I mean, I

1146
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: would it's I mean this it gets into dodgy territory

1147
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: when you say this, but I do believe that there

1148
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: has to be an overcorrection when there's been such an

1149
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: this is not the word, but you know what I mean,

1150
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Like when when something hasn't even been broached at all

1151
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: and it's been damaging two people, it's actually okay that

1152
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: we a little too far, you know, agree, And it's

1153
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: like that with you know, and not to get into

1154
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: the cancelation of it all, like the narrative that. But

1155
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, you know what if people have to

1156
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: answer for past behaviors that are that are not necessarily

1157
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: like abject harmful, even if they're good people that have

1158
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: to have an uncomfortable moment, that's actually okay because in

1159
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: the grand scheme, we need to have a reckoning about

1160
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: things like this and get to a place where we're

1161
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: living in a world of equity, of fairness, of you know,

1162
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: actual everyone, actually everyone being respected for their humanity, not

1163
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: just some antiquated way of referencing like people are relating

1164
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: to people. You know, it's about humanity, and it's actually

1165
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: okay if we overcorrect sometimes, so the conversation to me,

1166
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: even if in the moment I was like are we

1167
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: really doing this? Actually I get it now and I

1168
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: respect it. I agree. Agree, let's talk about these remaining Survivors. Well,

1169
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: first of all, there's stars on the cast, their stars

1170
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: and the cast, even someone like voch or Genie. I'm like,

1171
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: I wish I could have seen more of them. I

1172
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: it's hurts, like this is the first season I've watched

1173
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: in a while, and I did watch a ton of seasons,

1174
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: as we know, as did you like where this season

1175
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: when you lose people, it's hurting. It's it's it's it's competitive,

1176
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: it's it's high stakes. I'm telling you readers, I know you,

1177
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: if you, if you were listening to us all throughout

1178
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: the summer, you know we had our moment with Survivor.

1179
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: It is not ending. This is another great season. Two

1180
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: summers ago wow, fun, I know, I know we're at

1181
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: that point now where we're going two summers ago. Summer,

1182
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: it's been it's been it's been like a year and

1183
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: a half. Let's just say and change. But um, poverty

1184
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: was was summer? Wow? Yeah, And we love you, we

1185
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: love you. Part of Zeke was Zeke was summer. But

1186
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: but we go way back, we go way back with

1187
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: Zeke of course, Um, yeah, no, it's it's it's a

1188
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: great season. I think that Shan is the one to watch,

1189
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, it's almost that thing

1190
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: of like when you when you watch reality shows so

1191
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: much or any television and you start to see it

1192
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: with TV brain you can see what you see the patterns. Yeah,

1193
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: there's pattern recognition. Yeah. The narratives are built in, like

1194
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: you can pretty much tell who's top three. I thought,

1195
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: I love the narratives though it's something to like see

1196
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: the narrative for what it is. But I really like

1197
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: this narrative. I'm obsessed. What do we think? I mean,

1198
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: we're recording this on November one. I feel like the

1199
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: Erica thing. I hope, I hope it gives her some

1200
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: intrigue because I feel like everyone on that tribe is

1201
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: we haven't really gotten to know them that much. But

1202
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: I kind of love that everyone dislikes her. I'm sorry,

1203
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: I will publicly say I cannot stand Sydney. Cannot stand her. Yeah,

1204
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: I think she is a fun character to watch, but

1205
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: certainly if the island has a bitch goddess this year

1206
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: is Sydney. It's actually not her? Who is I don't

1207
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: think there needs to be one. I love it as

1208
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: an archetype. But I get what you're saying. I don't.

1209
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't mean to describe this word to her to Shan,

1210
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: but if you want to like someone who is like

1211
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: just coming for you and it's playing this game so

1212
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: well and like is not afraid to like fuck you,

1213
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Like Shannon is your bitch goddess. She is literally she

1214
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: has a shift. Yeah she is, she's out here. Parv

1215
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: was never like the bitch goddess. To me, Parv was

1216
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: just like a great, a great like hot girl who

1217
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: knew like her power. Sydney is just like I'm just like, no,

1218
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: you stop it where she's like I think she was

1219
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: like fishing at one point and she was like I

1220
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: don't know. She just like brabbed about herself in a

1221
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: way that was just like not I'm just not self

1222
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: aware of what she was something like the girls are

1223
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: the girls are never the girls on the show are

1224
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: never like me. I'm out here actually providing for the

1225
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: tribe in the way that like Ozzy Wood or whatever,

1226
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: like she's like something else. It was something that really

1227
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: got to me and I was like, her humor is

1228
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: not landing with you. Her whole vibe is not landing

1229
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: with me. And maybe it's because I like, I meanbe

1230
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: it's because we all know that girl, I don't know,

1231
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know all of these people. Um,

1232
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: but Shan Shan I love, I love is a star.

1233
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: He is coming out of the world wrook for me, Like,

1234
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know what I love about him, Like when

1235
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: he's succeeding in the show, I'm happy, like and I too,

1236
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen with a lot of people, right, Like,

1237
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: It's like he is sort of only has good intentions

1238
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: and it's very um but it's still a still journey,

1239
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: very here is journey good intentions, still very strategic player,

1240
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: very good physical player, kind of like a You'll kind

1241
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: of You'll checks a lot of the Buell boxes, like

1242
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: obviously not the same person as Youll, but like I'm like, okay,

1243
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not paying tribute to Nasier as much as

1244
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I mean, You'll, it's like a

1245
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: god fully a god come factory, Come Factory called me

1246
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: the come Factory. He's so fucking hot and Ozzie was

1247
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: so hot too, and you know Ozzie has only fans yeah,

1248
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: but he's it's just like him like yanking it. No,

1249
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: that's him sucking checks. Dude. You know, I'm sorry you

1250
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: and you're you and your straight porn fetish. Sorry, I'm

1251
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: not I don't mean a king shame but straight. Actually

1252
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: it's actually it's actually a little culture number one hundred

1253
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: and four straight kink um. That's true. Well, man, I

1254
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 1: say you know what to be honest, she's tired. She's tired,

1255
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: and also I have something to do so we can

1256
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: move on it. I don't think so, honey, I just

1257
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: don't want to. I wanted to just touch on one thing.

1258
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: As the morning show correspondent for the show, I felt

1259
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: like I should just tell everyone will please spoiler alert

1260
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Speaker 1: spoiler alert spoiler alert forwards like to two to five

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Speaker 1: minutes from no no, no, no, no no no, not even

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be quick. Steve Carrell drove off a cliff.

1263
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: So the third graders are cackling writing this season. It

1264
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: could not be more insane. I the teachers not even

1265
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: in the room anymore. They're on vacation. There there the

1266
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: teachers left her vacation. I forgot to get users came

1267
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: to school on their own, their own volition to be like,

1268
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: we love this so much, we're having so much fun

1269
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: writing this show that they came to school and now

1270
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna drive off on cliff Yeah, and he's dead. Okay,

1271
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: so I know that I'm here to let you know

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01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: exactly how much fun the third grade is. We're having

1273
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: writing in the morning show. They're having a blast, having

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01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: the best week on the class. Um. We wish the

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: best for We wish the best for Dorite Kemsley. We

1276
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: hope that we hope that it wasn't stage. You better

1277
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: take that back. No, I don't think so, Honey is

1278
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: gonna be Derite related? Okay, what else? What else? I

1279
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: think that it might be Sime for I don't think so.

1280
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch on a couple because current

1281
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: events are happening as we speak. Current events are happening

1282
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: as we speak. Um, did you watch the Potoma Coinneally?

1283
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: I watched Potomac CONNELLI I missed Slake City. I will

1284
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: watch that tonight. Potomacinelle, you know Vulture was I forget

1285
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: her name, but she writes wonderful recap through Potomac, and

1286
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: she pointed out something very interesting. She was like, all

1287
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: of the franchises for Housewives put in the Pandemic have

1288
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: really struggled with like a crawl to the to the

1289
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: finish line. And it's okay because it's like it's hard

1290
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: to because I guess there's still all these limitations around

1291
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: shooting with COVID that it's really hard to like produce

1292
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: story out of what they're you know, what they can

1293
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: work with and anyway, But then she also said this

1294
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: funny thing where she was like, um, I forget what

1295
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: the context of the sentence was, but she said that

1296
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: Robin has been acting like squid word all s yeah,

1297
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: very very our e or just like and it's sad

1298
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: because that's not the Robin we love. Yeah, I just

1299
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: I do feel bad for though, because that one wants

1300
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: to get married so bad. I'm just like, can you

1301
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: just can we just have the wedding please? I can't

1302
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: believe we had a wedding this season. It was Karen's

1303
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: second one. It was not vow renew. Well. Juan was

1304
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: being all kinds of fucking stupid this episode. I was like,

1305
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: why did he drive off at the mere mentioned that

1306
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: he was not present as a father. He was like

1307
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: a main character in this episode and then when he

1308
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: was like mediating the Michael and Chris uh, I was like,

1309
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, And then I was really happy the

1310
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: campus called it what it was, which was the white

1311
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: privilege of it all. The fact that Michael is even

1312
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: allowed to be there is insane. Assaulted crew members and

1313
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: let's not forget about that one fucking crazy. But looking

1314
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: forward to the Nicki Minaj host reunion, that's for sure.

1315
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: I need Nikki to fucking destroy Giselle and Ashley Derby

1316
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: destroy happen. I'm done with Ashley. Actually, I'm like, you're

1317
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: not even that fun or funny. I mean, I'm I'm

1318
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: talking about this thing. I I was thinking last night

1319
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: about how Bravo went live with Brooke Ashley, one of

1320
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: our favorite house lives loved, but they went live with

1321
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: her and then they surprised brought in Ashley Derby and

1322
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 1: then Brooke was stuck to her guns and was like hello,

1323
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: like what basically was like? Did not? She said? She said,

1324
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: Ashley this season is wearing thin and she said it

1325
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: to her face and I was like, oh my god,

1326
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: but her face when Ashley Darby came on the life,

1327
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: because there was like a surprise they were like, guess

1328
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: the mystery houselife from the chat, and she hates Ashley

1329
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: much so when she popped up, I saw her face

1330
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: and she literally was like, Ah, I loved it. I'm

1331
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: gonna go live with her this week? I think, Yes,

1332
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to live with her at some

1333
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: point after Wednesday, after after the part four, I'm gonna

1334
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna d m her because we've been we've been

1335
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: making plans to go live and have a glass of

1336
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: wine and talk house lives, and so maybe after this

1337
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: part four of the of the Beverly Hill drainion will

1338
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: do that. But can I say I'm tuning in, honey.

1339
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: You might even have to join up. You might have

1340
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: to join in. I gonna have to tune in for

1341
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: that one. Let's do I don't think so, honey. It

1342
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: is a one minute segment that is iconic for UM

1343
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: the way that it provides opportunity to drag something in

1344
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: culture UM like it's never been dragged before. It is

1345
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: our famous segment. I would love to go ahead and

1346
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: do it. This is perfect, this is Matt Rodgers. I

1347
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't

1348
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: think so honey, people saying that Dorrite and p K

1349
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: staged the break into their home because actually, think about

1350
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: this for a second. I know we don't love to read.

1351
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 1: I know we are all team Garcel as am I

1352
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: to the end of time. By the way, she's coming

1353
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: on last in April, and I said it out loud,

1354
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: so now it has to happen. But she's on the

1355
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: schedule out. We are a team gar But even not

1356
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: being team to read, do you think that she would

1357
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: put her children through that? I mean, come on, like,

1358
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: if that would be crazy for her to say, hey,

1359
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: break into my home while my kids are there, the

1360
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: trauma that would inflict on them, I understand she needs

1361
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,919
Speaker 1: a narrative for next season. Is the timing weird because

1362
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: it was the same episode on the reunion where they

1363
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: talked about like, Lisa, you gotta put your dresses awhere,

1364
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: someone's gonna come to your house, and they came to

1365
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: Kyle and took all her ship and hours later Derts

1366
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: taking for home is broken into. Yes, it's weird, but

1367
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: we think she'd be that craven maybe, but I don't

1368
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And that's one minute, because I did

1369
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: entertain for a second, when we talked about it the

1370
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: next the morning, the morning after, I said, this seems

1371
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: suspicious and only I'm sorry to say, only a hundred

1372
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They was reported that the amount of money

1373
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: they got away with the people that broke him amounted

1374
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 1: to about a hundred thousand dollars. And then Jared was

1375
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: texting me and he was saying, yeah, but that's like,

1376
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: that's like a couple of her drags. I mean, especially

1377
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: when she's got price Point on her wedding gowns. I

1378
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: was like, that's probably a couple of handbags, a couple

1379
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: of dresses. Like the fact that they were there fully

1380
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: broken to the house, there was more than one of

1381
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: them and they only made out with that much is weird.

1382
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: Also the fact that they were starting shooting on the

1383
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: new season that day that day and thee it was

1384
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: all a little odd, but sometimes things in life are odd. Okay,

1385
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I know, Stranger than Fiction and that's a Taylor Swift song, Okay,

1386
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: better than Revenge, Golden Globe nominated. Did Stranger than Fiction

1387
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: is whateverr song titles? I don't think that's stranger than fiction?

1388
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: Was this is crazy that you don't know this? I

1389
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: don't all Taylor. But Stranger than Fiction was Oh that

1390
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: was um, yeah, I know where you're talking about. It

1391
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: was actually from like a Will Ferrell movie. It was

1392
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: from true. Now that's no. The Will Ferrell movie is

1393
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: Stranger than Fiction. But maybe Taylor has a song that's

1394
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: called Stranger than Fiction, Stranger Sweeter than Fiction. Okay, wow,

1395
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm eating crow part right now. It is from the

1396
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: motion picture One Chance Sweeter than Fiction. Ship. I think

1397
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: that's going on. Red Taylor's version pretty cool? All right?

1398
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: So now comes the time where it's Bowen Yang's I

1399
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And I'm thrilled to say that

1400
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: now is the time where I can say I'm this

1401
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: episode that Bowen Yang. Your time starts now, I don't

1402
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Plastic packaging that's hard in that shell

1403
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: that you have to get a fucking pair of scissors

1404
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: out and cut through, you know what I'm talking about,

1405
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: by an electric razor. I cannot believe the deathmatch that

1406
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: I was engaged in this morning. So I could open

1407
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: up this electric razor that I bought on the internet,

1408
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: and I had to take two different pairs of scissors

1409
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: to cut through because the stickers the stickers weren't coming off.

1410
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: The packaging is so fucking like late nineties Costco bullshit,

1411
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, like such bullshit. And I could have cut

1412
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: myself this morning. And I can't afford to cut myself.

1413
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: I have a roof to put over my head. That's right.

1414
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm single, and no one's looking out for me but me.

1415
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Single people cannot be given these things, otherwise they will

1416
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: not be able to provide for themselves. And I don't

1417
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: want to get my caretakers involved. Spoon feed me my

1418
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: my breakfast in the morning, all because I cut myself

1419
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: trying to open up a package. And that's one minute.

1420
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: I want you to know one thing is not true.

1421
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: You are not the only person looking out for you.

1422
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: And if you ever need money, sister, if you ever

1423
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: need money, sister will send a check. I'm struggling. If

1424
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: you ever are struggling financially, girl, and that Ivory tower

1425
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: of thirty rock, I will send a check to the gig.

1426
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: What is the top number for you? I would send

1427
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: you a hundred dollars, bitch, I'll take it alone. For

1428
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: the fish. I went to the bank. I slept with

1429
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: the teller. I know they're tired of me, etcetera. Yeah,

1430
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: um yeah, Can I say something whenever you're opening up,

1431
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: like do you know what I'm talking about with the

1432
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: five million twisty things, I'm like, who is this protecting?

1433
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: When you're opening up like sharpies, when you're opening up

1434
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: like scissors, that kind of single use plant, I would

1435
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: consider that single use like it's not getting recycled, and

1436
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: nine percent of plastics get recycled. That ain't part of

1437
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: the that that's because by the time you open it,

1438
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: it's a gnarl mess. I mean you can't reuse. I

1439
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: mean it's just pathetic. You can't give it. Get that

1440
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: to a toy, to a child as a toy, cut

1441
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: themselves just like me. It really actually Dane Dress. Yeah,

1442
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: it's fully aggress it's a weapon. And if there were

1443
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: an earthquake, it will become a projectile. If you had

1444
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: it laying around, girl, if it were an earthquake, it

1445
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: would become that that say that, well, thank you for

1446
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: supporting me financially and sort of you know, argumentatively in

1447
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: that I don't think so. I saidfore you all the way,

1448
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: and I swore you all the way. You want to

1449
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: know something, but I support you and I'm not even

1450
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: joking you do. Seeing you this past week, I thought

1451
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: one of the most special people on this earth, one

1452
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: of the funniest, effortless Jen was such a hit in

1453
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: such a way that I was like, yes, slay slack,

1454
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: thank you for saying such a such a funny. And

1455
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: everyone was like, this is the funny. It's a it's

1456
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: a I y K y k situation. If you know,

1457
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, if you know, if you know the Pantry girls,

1458
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, and Matt nailed it and everyone it's one

1459
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: of those things. It's like, it's satire. You're making an

1460
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: observation about the world that people, you're excavating a truth

1461
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: and you did that. I think my sister from the

1462
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: autom of my heart and I want to say that

1463
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: seeing you this week likewise was revitalizing and everyone should

1464
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: watch this space on what we're working on. Okay, now,

1465
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to give us both a break because I

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Speaker 1: want to. I want to. I'm actually going to get

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: to drinks with Amanda Study and Rachel Witski. Oh my God,

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: tell him, I say, hi. I know it's like a

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: little popular union, but but in order to cut this up,

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Speaker 1: I actually want to sell dog. Please come back in

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: because this is your second time, because I have I

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Speaker 1: don't think so honey, No, you haven't. I don't think

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01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: so honey. I think we have to honor it and

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Speaker 1: do two things. You need to do your out of

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: think so honey, And then you need to end the

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01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: episode in a song. You need to sing it. Yes,

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: you need to sing, so do your I don't think

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01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: my phone, Doug bamb this is your I don't think

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01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: so honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so honey.

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Speaker 1: Remixing one of the best records of all times. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Beatles and we're talking about Sergeant Pepper's

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: Lonely Heart. I do not care if it's fifty years old.

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: It has a place in my heart. Yes, and of

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01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: the whole world has heard this record a certain way.

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: You do not have any justification to fucking mix it.

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're George Martin's son, mother, grandparents,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. You are not allowed to touch that

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: fucking record. West Montgomery did a cover of a song

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01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: off of that record, So you see this guy with diamonds.

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01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: It's amazing, one of the best records of all time.

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: You are not allowed to touch it. I'm sorry, send

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: me hate mail and strong and strong because people that

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: did it are bad people. I don't think so huge

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: sing you pop off like that was amazing, dog. I

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: loved that so much. And when Doug really goes there

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Speaker 1: with the knowledge, with the with the with the music,

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: it's trivia. It's not trivia cause it's not trivial. I

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01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: loved that. I want I want to hear you talk

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Speaker 1: about music all the time. I really do, Doug. We're

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Speaker 1: going to collect ourselves and as we do, can you

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: can you take me so I can't singing. Don't make

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: me sing a song. Come on, I can't sing at all.

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01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm not taking an easy one happy birthday. Now you're

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01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: making me look stupid. That's a hard song. No, it

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: has one hard note, the third one. I can't. I

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: can't here. I've embarrassed myself enough. Okay, I have I

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01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: have a song. Okay, Hey, what's what do you years ago?

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01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: A day? Whoa whoa? That there we have it supported? Well,

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: it's because you weren't supported by Doug and including you

1510
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: in this episode was a big mistake. That the way

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: the way you throw it us under the bus at

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Speaker 1: the end, you know what, I gotta guy drinks by you.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Doug,