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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody. I hope all of you guys had
Speaker 1: a great weekend. I was actually ready for a little
Speaker 1: bit of a break after last Friday because it had
Speaker 1: been such a crazy two and a half weeks. But
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to get back to work tonight. So
Speaker 1: much interesting basketball going on around the league. It's fun
Speaker 1: to go back to work when the league is like this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be touching on seven different teams tonight in
Speaker 1: varying Capacities, the Atlanta Hawks, the Milwaukee Bucks, the Minnesota Timberwolves,
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Lakers, the Utah Jazz, the Cleveland Cavaliers,
Speaker 1: and the Brooklyn Nets. And we will start with that
Speaker 1: very back and forth game between the Milwaukee Bucks and
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks. The Bucks started really well, really controlled
Speaker 1: the first half of that game. You know, their spot
Speaker 1: up shooting. I talked a lot during the first few
Speaker 1: weeks of the season and even before the season, that
Speaker 1: there was no two thousand, seventeen Warriors among this group.
Speaker 1: Every one of the best teams in the league has
Speaker 1: a certain weakness, right you know, we talked about Golden
Speaker 1: State and their lack of perimeter size and now obviously
Speaker 1: we've discovered to have an issue with their bench. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the the Boston Celtics and their issues with
Speaker 1: offensive decision making. We've talked about the Los Angeles Clippers
Speaker 1: in their lack of perimeter quickness, which has ironically manifested
Speaker 1: on the offensive end for them this year because of
Speaker 1: their inability to get dribble penetration. And that goes down
Speaker 1: the line, including the Milwaukee Bucks, who've had a weakness
Speaker 1: with spot up shooting, which which one of the big
Speaker 1: reasons why there's so much optimism around Bucks fans is
Speaker 1: the fact that they've got a lot of reinforcements coming
Speaker 1: on that front, with the return of Pat Contaton and
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton at some point in the future. And after
Speaker 1: getting off to a pretty rough start shooting the basketball
Speaker 1: this year, despite kicking everybody's ass, they actually had a
Speaker 1: couple of really good shooting games in a row. They
Speaker 1: were on back to back games where they made at
Speaker 1: least seventeen threes, and that continued into the first half
Speaker 1: and they had made eleven of them, particularly Brook Lopez
Speaker 1: and Grayson Allen aggressively confidently rising and knocking down shots.
Speaker 1: You know, shooting is contagious. I'm a big believer and
Speaker 1: that most of you guys that have played basketball competitively
Speaker 1: at some level would probably agree with me. Um. It
Speaker 1: just it fills your team with confidence when guys start
Speaker 1: making shots. I don't think it's I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence that Grayson uh and Brooke coming out rising
Speaker 1: and firing confidently knocking shots down did trickled down the roster.
Speaker 1: But that game took a left turn, a wild left
Speaker 1: turn in the start of the second half, and it
Speaker 1: was fueled by a couple of different things. I anytime
Speaker 1: you see a dominant kind of reversal like that, there's
Speaker 1: always multiple factors. For instance, the Bucks couldn't shoot anymore,
Speaker 1: they made zero threes in the third quarter. But a
Speaker 1: big part of it, I thought was de Jon Murray
Speaker 1: really changing the pace of the game, getting with a
Speaker 1: pep in his step up the floor quickly and putting
Speaker 1: pressure on the rim importantly enough to avoid Milwaukee set
Speaker 1: half court defense, which is so important, especially with how
Speaker 1: well Brook Lopez and Janis Antena Komba are playing as
Speaker 1: rim protectors this year, which we'll get further into here
Speaker 1: in a little bit, because I want to talk about
Speaker 1: that dominant win in Minnesota against the against the Timberwolves
Speaker 1: on Friday night. But in that third quarter, Jon Murray
Speaker 1: got them going in transition. They started to get baskets,
Speaker 1: which allowed them to set their defense. They defended extremely
Speaker 1: well against Nice, forcing him into a lot of uncharacteristic misses.
Speaker 1: And then they got out and transition themselves again and
Speaker 1: they got going, uh, forcing turnovers, getting stops and pushing
Speaker 1: the ball. The whole pace of the game shifted that
Speaker 1: ended up feeding their confidence. And then you saw a
Speaker 1: lot of guys get going with tough shot making down
Speaker 1: the stretch. You saw justin Holiday make a bunch of
Speaker 1: big shots. You saw Yuka Ko conglu Uh attacking the
Speaker 1: offensive glass and making plays that got the crowd invested
Speaker 1: in the game. You know, this is this is the
Speaker 1: upside to making the Degen Murray trade. Now, Um, when
Speaker 1: it was that particular trade that had very mixed feelings
Speaker 1: about this summer, because I'm a big believer in all
Speaker 1: in type of trades, I just thought it was interesting
Speaker 1: that of all the guys, Degen Murray was the one
Speaker 1: that they targeted. However, the obvious upside by by bringing
Speaker 1: in a guy like de Genta Murray is it gives
Speaker 1: you so much more flexibility with your team's identity. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, over the course the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a Trey Young heliocentric offense, and
Speaker 1: we're surrounding him with role players, right, and everything depends
Speaker 1: on him, and when he's out, the team can kind
Speaker 1: of lose that identity because they don't have this backup
Speaker 1: identity that they can go to. And instead, what happened
Speaker 1: in this game is not only does Degen Murray give
Speaker 1: you kind of an offensive fulcrum to run around when
Speaker 1: Pray is not out there, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're going away from Trey and you're bringing in another athlete.
Speaker 1: So you get a guy like a J. Griffin who
Speaker 1: has barely played this season and it's kind of a
Speaker 1: fringe part of the rotation, gets a much bigger opportunity,
Speaker 1: more athleticism, more score like off ball scoring pop, and
Speaker 1: that's he had a great offensive game. Obviously, Trey Young
Speaker 1: brings a ton in that specific role, but a J.
Speaker 1: Griffin a little bit more size, a little bit more athletic,
Speaker 1: a little bit more ability to crowd Janice in the paint,
Speaker 1: and then he was scoring on the other end of
Speaker 1: the four. He caught a little heater in this game,
Speaker 1: and it gave them a different way to win. If
Speaker 1: you're an Atlanta Hawks fan, you won that game in
Speaker 1: a very different way than the vast majority of your
Speaker 1: wins over the course of the Tray Young era. That
Speaker 1: different look, that flexibility of identity is what makes that
Speaker 1: dogone Murray trade have so much upside. And it's not
Speaker 1: even just when Trey Young uh is out of the lineup. It's,
Speaker 1: for instance, gives you the ability to take that identity
Speaker 1: and transfer it to non tray nits. For instance, in
Speaker 1: a playoff series, when you gotta go twelve minutes without Trey,
Speaker 1: you know what you can go to now, this look
Speaker 1: of Dejonta Murray with four freak athletes that just play
Speaker 1: incredibly hard and playoff of Dejonta run up and down
Speaker 1: the floor, and transition and defend like crazy, get into
Speaker 1: passing lanes and force a bunch of turnovers. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a big part of of why
Speaker 1: teams go about those specific types of deals. And it
Speaker 1: was very, very impressive win for Atlanta and the first
Speaker 1: team this season to notch a win against that Milwaukee
Speaker 1: Bucks team. But the Milwaukee Bucks, their biggest weakness, like
Speaker 1: I said, all season in the past, has been their
Speaker 1: spot up shooting, and that's what failed them in that
Speaker 1: third quarter. They had zero makes after eleven in the
Speaker 1: first half. I also thought in general they kind of
Speaker 1: fell into the pace a little bit. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of questionable decision making even from Drew and Janice
Speaker 1: there in that third quarter where it was just like
Speaker 1: them getting caught up in the hustle and bustle of
Speaker 1: Atlanta's run and trying to hit home runs to kind
Speaker 1: of reel things in rather than controlling the pace again,
Speaker 1: because you know, if you slow it down and you
Speaker 1: keep them in the half court, you're they're going to
Speaker 1: struggle to score. And so that would be my one
Speaker 1: other bit, a little bit of criticism. I'm not over
Speaker 1: here to get on the Bucks because they're the best
Speaker 1: team in the league right now. But you always want
Speaker 1: to play the way you want to play. Don't ever
Speaker 1: let another team in their style whip you up into
Speaker 1: a frenzy and start playing a different style of basketball
Speaker 1: than you want to play. That will only further send
Speaker 1: things down, you know, a dark path for you in
Speaker 1: terms of a run in a game like that that
Speaker 1: the Bucks very well could have one if they had
Speaker 1: they managed to rein in control of that game a
Speaker 1: little bit easier in that third quarter. UM. I did
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about that Bucks Wolves
Speaker 1: game on Friday night, UM that I watched this morning.
Speaker 1: It was kind of an interesting matchup because I had
Speaker 1: a feeling it would go the way that it did.
Speaker 1: Because we're gonna talk a little bit more here in
Speaker 1: a minute about the Minnesota Timberwolves in some of the
Speaker 1: fundamental ways that they're constructed that is inherently flawed, that
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about here in just a minute. But
Speaker 1: in that particular game, Brook Lopez and Jhannas Antenna Coopa,
Speaker 1: depending on which shift had, which guy wear and what
Speaker 1: was going on, they were sagging way back into the
Speaker 1: paint and as a result, they're basically funneling and and
Speaker 1: funneling de low down into the lane where there's already
Speaker 1: this rim protection. And we're talking about two of the
Speaker 1: best rim protectors in the league. And then on the
Speaker 1: other end of the floor, the Bucks, when they're making
Speaker 1: their spot up threes like they did, are damn near
Speaker 1: impossible to beat. And they made seventeen threes in that game.
Speaker 1: Janice eleven assists. And you know, I talked I've said
Speaker 1: this a million times, but Jannice, everyone focuses on the
Speaker 1: jump shot, and it always looks cool when he makes
Speaker 1: a jump shot, but the reality of the situation is
Speaker 1: that he cannot be guarded in single coverage, so he's
Speaker 1: going to force teams to build a wall in Minnesota
Speaker 1: did a good job in this game, holding Janice well
Speaker 1: below his normal efficiency, crowding the paint, getting him to
Speaker 1: miss shots that he normally makes, but in process, as
Speaker 1: they were collapsing the paint, Janice continue to make the
Speaker 1: right reads and he is above and beyond as a
Speaker 1: passer than any of us could have even expected at
Speaker 1: this point in his career. And that was what I
Speaker 1: kept saying over the years, is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: It is more important for him to be able to
Speaker 1: pass his way open or to make teams pay for
Speaker 1: building the wall than it is for him to hit
Speaker 1: shots over the top of the defense, especially with the
Speaker 1: way the team is constructed, where Chris Middleton kind of
Speaker 1: brings that specific capability. They don't need, you, honest, to
Speaker 1: hit threes or to hit step back twos or anything
Speaker 1: along those lines. When he makes them, it's great. It's
Speaker 1: great that he's working on him. Hell, if he figures
Speaker 1: that stuff out, we're talking about the greatest basketball player
Speaker 1: that's ever lived. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's always the passing that I'm watching with Janice, and
Speaker 1: that's where he's taken the most steps over the course
Speaker 1: of the last couple of years in his ascendancy into
Speaker 1: the best player in the world. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about the Minnesota timber Rols for just a second.
Speaker 1: I talked about their offensive struggles on Friday a little bit,
Speaker 1: but wanted to get into it a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: You know, when when Brook Lopez and Janis Antenna Komba
Speaker 1: are camping into the paint, its severely limits what Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert does offensively, and it really disrupts the flow of
Speaker 1: that entire Minnesota Temberwolves starting unit on the offensive end
Speaker 1: of the floor. And and and a big part of it
Speaker 1: is just his unwillingness to score the basketball when he
Speaker 1: has advantage positions on the court. There was a play
Speaker 1: in this game, I believe it was first quarter where, uh,
Speaker 1: where Rudy got a deep seal on Bobby port Is
Speaker 1: directly under the basket, Like he could have just jumped
Speaker 1: and dunked it reverse behind his head and didn't even
Speaker 1: look at the rim. He caught it and just threw
Speaker 1: a touch pass to D'Angelo Russell and the play went nowhere.
Speaker 1: When the whole purpose of offense is to generate an advantage.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe your seven foot tall guy
Speaker 1: was super long arms directly under the basket buried a
Speaker 1: defender where he's got no chance to stop him from
Speaker 1: going up and finishing in or drawing a foul. And
Speaker 1: that specific concept, the ability of teams to sag off
Speaker 1: of Gobert into the paint while the four of the
Speaker 1: other four Timberwolves just kind of flounder around taking bad shots,
Speaker 1: is a big part of why their offense is struggling
Speaker 1: so much, and it's really bad so far this year.
Speaker 1: Ant Uh, Anthony Edwards, D'Angel Russell, Jada McDaniels, Carl Towns
Speaker 1: and Gobert, they're starting lineup, is getting outscored by eleven
Speaker 1: points per one possessions and is only scoring nineties seven
Speaker 1: points per one h possessions on offense, which is atrocious,
Speaker 1: especially with Aunt Edwards and Carl Town's on the floor
Speaker 1: at the same time. So let's look at that kind
Speaker 1: of fundamentally for a second. So what are the two
Speaker 1: things that Rudy Gobert does well Offensively? He screens really well.
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz fans were preaching to us about screen assists
Speaker 1: for years, and that is a legitimate gift of his
Speaker 1: He's very good at screening and kind of like delaying
Speaker 1: his his role just enough and like lingering contact to
Speaker 1: get guards to hang up on him so that his
Speaker 1: guards can get downhill. And then he's also one of
Speaker 1: the best off some rebounders in the league. I believe
Speaker 1: he's tied with Steven Adams at the top of the
Speaker 1: league with like four point seven offensive rebounds per game
Speaker 1: this year. So those are his two things that he
Speaker 1: does super well. Offensive rebounds are just gonna manifest an
Speaker 1: extra possessions. But if you screen super well and the
Speaker 1: team is packing the paint, what is the one way
Speaker 1: you can weaponize that for your offense? Pull up jump shooting,
Speaker 1: which I keep saying is the most important offensive skill
Speaker 1: in the NBA right now. You have to be able
Speaker 1: to weaponize Rudy Gobert screening by having guys that can
Speaker 1: come over the top of those screens and score off
Speaker 1: the dribble, just like Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley did
Speaker 1: and and Jordan Clarkson did with the Jazz during that
Speaker 1: Jazz era. That was a great offensive team despite Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert on the floor, and it was because of their
Speaker 1: ability to make pull up jump shots. The Minnesota timber
Speaker 1: Wolves are averaging making seven point eight pull up jumpers
Speaker 1: per game this year, which is twenty two in the
Speaker 1: n b A. You know, both Dangel Russell and Anthony
Speaker 1: Eedwards are shooting about thirty six percent on pull up jumpers.
Speaker 1: That's just not good enough for that specific type of
Speaker 1: roster constructs. So as a result, the Carl Town's Gobert
Speaker 1: line ups with the two bigs on the flour, they
Speaker 1: just can't score. And so that that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I see the fundamental structure of the roster as flawed,
Speaker 1: inherently flawed. If you're going to structure your team in
Speaker 1: a way that allows the other team to pack the paint,
Speaker 1: then you need to be one of a couple of
Speaker 1: different things. You either need to be the best defense
Speaker 1: in the league. Like the Lakers, everybody packed a paint
Speaker 1: on them, and they had half court offense problems, but
Speaker 1: they were the best defense in the league, and so
Speaker 1: they were always out in transition avoiding half court sets,
Speaker 1: and they won the championship and no one even really
Speaker 1: threatened them. And then we look at the Bucks, same
Speaker 1: type of deal. Struggled in half court offense, especially in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they were so damn good defensively that
Speaker 1: it was enough for it to like Essentially, they're choosing
Speaker 1: personnel that limits their spacing but gives them one of
Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league. And the Timberwolves are
Speaker 1: not a great defensive team, at least not to this point,
Speaker 1: not as good as they need to be to justify
Speaker 1: having Rudy Gobert on the floor in these lineups. And
Speaker 1: then the only other way that you can survive with
Speaker 1: that type of lineup is if you're an outstanding pull
Speaker 1: up jump shooting team like the Golden State Warriors, So
Speaker 1: you have Draymond Green on the floor, Kevan Luoni on
Speaker 1: the floor, two non shooters. Every team can pack the
Speaker 1: pain if they want to, but they're so damn good
Speaker 1: at pull up shooting that it basically renders the idea
Speaker 1: of packing the paint useless. And we literally saw the
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics last year Chase Steph Curry and Jordan Pool
Speaker 1: and Clay Thompson over the top of screens all series long,
Speaker 1: and they just made them pay all series long because
Speaker 1: they're the best pull up jump shooting team in the
Speaker 1: league in my opinion. So you've got to either be
Speaker 1: outstanding defensively or an outstanding pull of jump shooting team
Speaker 1: to pull off that team construct in the Timberwolves are neither,
Speaker 1: and so I think they're a prime candidate for mid
Speaker 1: season trade, especially when you factor in some of the
Speaker 1: personality stuff. I talked a lot on Friday about the
Speaker 1: kind of rift that's forming between Carl Town's and Anthony Edwards,
Speaker 1: and I think up some of that is fueled a
Speaker 1: little bit by the fan base kind of leaning towards Aunt.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more of a likable basketball personality.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of fire and competitiveness, while Cat
Speaker 1: can be inconsistent with the way that he competes, which
Speaker 1: is just an inherently, uh you know, unlikable trait for
Speaker 1: a fan base, right, But even deeper than that, like
Speaker 1: the the you're starting to see Anthony Edwards get really
Speaker 1: frustrated with the way his offensive game is more difficult
Speaker 1: with the team construct. And you guys all probably all
Speaker 1: saw that video that went around where the Timberwolves ran
Speaker 1: to play and Aunt just sat on the right wing
Speaker 1: and just stand like hands on his hips and watch
Speaker 1: the whole play happen, which, by the way, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure he got dealt with privately for that, because that's
Speaker 1: a really bad look and no matter what your issue is,
Speaker 1: that's just not the way to you know, could go
Speaker 1: about expressing that. But you're starting to see some fractures
Speaker 1: in the personalities of the team. So if I've got
Speaker 1: the personalities aren't jelling and the team itself is fundamentally
Speaker 1: flawed with the way that it's constructed, they're a prime
Speaker 1: candidate for mid season trade, and so they can go
Speaker 1: one of a couple different routes. You can either ditch
Speaker 1: all the non shooting since you don't have good enough
Speaker 1: pull up shooting, and you can go all in on
Speaker 1: five out spacing and driving to the basket, driving kick
Speaker 1: type of stuff. But it's a hard I have a
Speaker 1: hard time believing that they're gonna ditch Rudy Gobert after
Speaker 1: they just traded everything in the entire franchise cabinet for it, right,
Speaker 1: So the more realistic option here is they end up
Speaker 1: flipping Dell and Cat and they target defensive players and
Speaker 1: you basically go all in on we are going to
Speaker 1: be the best defense in the league surrounding Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 1: Because Anthony Edwards, by the way, is has the potential
Speaker 1: to be an outstanding defensive player, and you you could
Speaker 1: tell it when he's engaged. He's really really good on
Speaker 1: that front. So if I I would imagine the direction
Speaker 1: they'll go is leaning heavily in on defense and understanding
Speaker 1: that they'll never be a great offensive team, at least
Speaker 1: in the half court. But if they defend really well
Speaker 1: get Anthony Edwards out in transition, maybe that can be
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Speaker 1: Lakers so they go into over the weekend. By the way,
Speaker 1: how we will be covering tonight's Lakers Jazz game during
Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, including the Warriors game tonight and I think
Speaker 1: the Nets are also playing tonight. We're gonna basically the
Speaker 1: entire late slate tonight. We're gonna cover tomorrow. Um, that'll
Speaker 1: be live on AMP and I believe six pm Eastern time,
Speaker 1: but I'll tweet that out just in case as we
Speaker 1: get closer to the show tomorrow. Um. But the Lakers go,
Speaker 1: they win two games in a row, right, they beat Denver,
Speaker 1: they beat the Pelicans up to two and five. A
Speaker 1: lot of optimism, but they had a really tough weekend slate.
Speaker 1: That Utah Jazz team that's beating everybody somehow. They beat
Speaker 1: the Clippers later in the weekend too, and then you
Speaker 1: had the Cleveland Cavaliers in that Sunday game, and they're
Speaker 1: just arguably the best team in league right now. Right. UM.
Speaker 1: I was specifically worried about both of those matchups from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of the way that they attacked specific weaknesses
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. For instance, the Utah Jazz have to
Speaker 1: stretch bigs and Darvin ham his screen coverages, he calls him,
Speaker 1: he calls its center field, but it's basically just drop coverage.
Speaker 1: The big man is back way back in the paint
Speaker 1: containing things, and they help a ton out of the
Speaker 1: strong side on on pick and roll. So like if
Speaker 1: you're defending a wing on the left wing and the
Speaker 1: pick and rolls coming out of the right wing, that
Speaker 1: defender on the left wing is digging down to the
Speaker 1: free throw line to contain the ball. So they give
Speaker 1: up a lot of wide open threes. And then you guys,
Speaker 1: as you know, one of the biggest UH specific kryptonites
Speaker 1: for UH drop coverage is a pick and pop, And
Speaker 1: it's just it's just about the way the coverage work.
Speaker 1: It works if the guard is chasing the guard over
Speaker 1: the top of the screen and the big is sagging
Speaker 1: back to contain the ball handler, but the screener pop
Speaker 1: rather than rolling directly into the screen defender, he's not guarded.
Speaker 1: And so that the Utah Jazz, with the with all
Speaker 1: of the shooting that they have on the floor to
Speaker 1: punish Darvin Ham's over helping and with their pick and
Speaker 1: pop bigs. With the way that the Lakers dropped into
Speaker 1: the paint so much, I had I had, I had
Speaker 1: a feeling that they would have a hard time guarding
Speaker 1: that specific matchup, and they got absolutely torched. They gave
Speaker 1: up a hundred and thirty points. Lori marken In absolutely
Speaker 1: killed and by the way, Lori markin in this season
Speaker 1: on five restricted area attempts on paint non restricted area
Speaker 1: attempts forty six percent from the mid range and out
Speaker 1: of the corners. Basically, the only place he's not making
Speaker 1: shots right now is above the break. A Link and
Speaker 1: Marketing combined for forty five in this game, and they
Speaker 1: made eight jumpers. Lebron, Anthony Davis, and Russ combined to
Speaker 1: make five jumpers in that game. Another big thing from
Speaker 1: Utah that uh that killed the Lakers in this game
Speaker 1: was and the Lakers, by the way, even though there
Speaker 1: was some match up stuff that was problematic which I
Speaker 1: just went over, it also just wasn't a very good
Speaker 1: defensive effort from them in this game. This was the
Speaker 1: first time that they didn't bring a plus defensive effort
Speaker 1: after seven really good defensive games. And uh, Mike Conley
Speaker 1: in particular, is having a great season was killing the
Speaker 1: Lakers punishing them for not checking cutters. So a lot
Speaker 1: of times what will happen is, you know, off ball
Speaker 1: defenders will kind of key in on the basketball and
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a typical defensive position, which is
Speaker 1: roughly halfway between their man and the ball. But one
Speaker 1: of the ways that you can remain a threat off
Speaker 1: ball is not just shooting, but cutting to the basket,
Speaker 1: and particularly um Jared Vanderbilt and Lori Marken In every
Speaker 1: time that like Lebron would be keyed in on the basketball,
Speaker 1: they would just like face cut, like cut right in
Speaker 1: front of Lebron's face, and rather than him paying attention
Speaker 1: and checking the cutter, he'd be late and they would
Speaker 1: just quit catch and finish. And Mike Conley did such
Speaker 1: a good job of making the Lakers pay every time
Speaker 1: they got lazy in their off ball defense. And then
Speaker 1: the so that was just an ugly game for the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and then the Cleveland game. They're massive on the interior,
Speaker 1: they're very good paint defense, and so so basically, when
Speaker 1: you have downhill threats like Lebron, Anthony Davis and Russ
Speaker 1: and the worst perimeter shooting team in the league, you're
Speaker 1: basically driving at Jared Allen and Evan Mobili all game long,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go poorly. So I was worried about that.
Speaker 1: And then on the other end of the floor, the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers are an outstanding pull up jump shooting team,
Speaker 1: which is another one of the great ways to beat
Speaker 1: a drop coverage, which is Darvin Hamm's bread and butter coverage.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a two way, uh bad matchup
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. And for the record, the Lakers came
Speaker 1: out and played a really really good first half of
Speaker 1: things really fell apart in that third quarter. And you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to specifically highlight the value of pull up
Speaker 1: jump shooting. How it's driving Cleveland right now. So in
Speaker 1: that particular game, Karris LeVert, Darius Garland, and Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 1: combined to go nine for seventeen on pull up jump shots,
Speaker 1: which is over. It's it's not just about like, oh,
Speaker 1: he makes a tough step like Donovan Mitchell sticks a stuff,
Speaker 1: a tough step back over Lonnie Walker that rescues a possession. Yes,
Speaker 1: rescuing a possession is a big part of it, but
Speaker 1: it's about beating the coverage in all game long. Darius
Speaker 1: Garland in particular and Donovan Mitchell were getting over the
Speaker 1: top of the screen, getting downhill, biggest, too far back,
Speaker 1: rise and fire from fifteen feet and they knock it down.
Speaker 1: That is why that skill is so incredibly valuable. And
Speaker 1: you juxtapose that with the Lakers, who are by far
Speaker 1: the worst pull up jump shooting team in the league,
Speaker 1: they're dead last, and pull up jump shots made per
Speaker 1: game at five point three twenty nine is seven makes
Speaker 1: per game, so they're significantly behind the rest of the field,
Speaker 1: and they're dead last in percentage at below. Cleveland is
Speaker 1: eighth in makes, pull up jump shot makes per game
Speaker 1: in sixth in percentage by comparison, So you can see
Speaker 1: that that that specific problem is is manifesting for the
Speaker 1: Lakers on a bunch of different fronts. They don't we
Speaker 1: focus so much on the perimeter shooting as it pertains
Speaker 1: to spacing, but Lebron just completely losing his pull up
Speaker 1: jump shot, which has been one of the most reliable
Speaker 1: part of parts of his game basically from two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen to two thousand twenty one. Like that, him losing
Speaker 1: that from his game so far to start this season
Speaker 1: has been really problematic because Russell Westbrook can't do it,
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunne completely forgot how to play, you know, like that.
Speaker 1: Without the team just has no pull up jump shooting,
Speaker 1: so they're never forcing teams to go over the top
Speaker 1: of screens, at least not often enough for to manifest
Speaker 1: in real offense offensive advantage creation. It's a big problem
Speaker 1: but shout out to Donovan Mitchell. He was the best
Speaker 1: player on the floor in this game by a mile.
Speaker 1: Had absolutely no problem getting to his spots all game long.
Speaker 1: You could see it, dripping with confidence all game long,
Speaker 1: talking to people courtside, just a swagger from him on
Speaker 1: the court, and he controlled that game. He has been
Speaker 1: one of the five best players in the league to
Speaker 1: start this season. He's firmly in early m VP debates,
Speaker 1: and when we do our first top ten Players of
Speaker 1: the regular season list, which I think is coming on
Speaker 1: Thursday this week, he will absolutely be featured very high
Speaker 1: on that list. The Lakers tried to match his athleticism
Speaker 1: with Lonnie Walker as an individual matchup, and he just
Speaker 1: got absolutely barbecued. Um, So we have to kind of
Speaker 1: like side Laker topics that I want to talk about
Speaker 1: first is Lebron, who struggled really bad in the Utah game.
Speaker 1: He's pretty solid in the Cleveland game. He's nine for
Speaker 1: ten in the restricted area, looked a lot more explosive.
Speaker 1: You could tell that the illness is at least fading
Speaker 1: or he's starting to get over that a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: But he couldn't hit another He couldn't hit his perimeter shot. Again,
Speaker 1: there are specifically two things from Lebron that are really
Speaker 1: hurting the Lakers. First of all, like we talked about
Speaker 1: the pull up shooting, he's taking six of them per game,
Speaker 1: but he's only making of him. He's the only guy
Speaker 1: on the team that can bring that skill, so they
Speaker 1: need him to get that going. But the big part,
Speaker 1: and this is something that we're not talking about nearly enough,
Speaker 1: is he's not actually trying to turn the corner and
Speaker 1: press sure the rim in pick and roll. So, for instance,
Speaker 1: Russ leads the team, Russell Westbrook leads the team in
Speaker 1: offensive writing among rotation players. Amongst guys that are actually
Speaker 1: in the rotation, the team scores best when he's on
Speaker 1: the floor compared to anybody else on the roster. Russ
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis lineups without Lebron are performing considerably better
Speaker 1: than Lebron James Anthony Davis lineups without Russ. And the
Speaker 1: main reason why is Russ is attacking off of pick
Speaker 1: and roll. He is picking up ahead of team and
Speaker 1: he is getting downhill, which is collapsing the paint and
Speaker 1: leading to advantages, which is the whole job for Russ,
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d create advantages so that the rest
Speaker 1: of the team can benefit from it. It's not a
Speaker 1: one on one game. It's a five on five game.
Speaker 1: But if everybody's playing one on one because nobody has
Speaker 1: an advantage, you're gonna struggle. But if you turn it
Speaker 1: into a one on oh because this guy's unguarded and
Speaker 1: you've created an advantage, that's where you start to get
Speaker 1: really high quality shots. And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: Early in the third quarter, they go to they go
Speaker 1: back to Russ with like eight and a half minutes
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter because the Calves came out
Speaker 1: and immediately went on like an eleven oh run. After
Speaker 1: Lebron James layup and uh, they bring Russ in and
Speaker 1: he runs a pick and roll with a d top
Speaker 1: key and he gets downhill fast on Donovan Mitchell and
Speaker 1: I might not even have been a pick and roll,
Speaker 1: might have just been in isolation, but he gets fast
Speaker 1: downhill and as a result, Jared All has to step
Speaker 1: up easy little lot pass. Anthony Davis is dunking and
Speaker 1: hanging on the rim that's only open because the Russ
Speaker 1: gets downhill. Everything depends on you getting downhill to create
Speaker 1: those advantages Lebron when he runs pick and roll with
Speaker 1: a d he there's no pace to it, there's no
Speaker 1: intention to get downhill. He's coming over the top of
Speaker 1: the screen, and a lot of times he's just picking
Speaker 1: up the dribble and like throwing like a crappy like
Speaker 1: swing pass to somebody who's not even open, who has
Speaker 1: to like v cut back out to the perimeter to
Speaker 1: catch the basketball. Or he's throwing like super low, difficult
Speaker 1: pocket passes to Anthony Davis who's barely open. In those situations,
Speaker 1: he's not being very intentional about creating an advantage as
Speaker 1: he comes over the top of those screens, which is
Speaker 1: literally the only purpose to why you do that. So
Speaker 1: not only does it kill. I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: There are forty eight players in the NBA that have
Speaker 1: registered at least forty possessions as a pick and roll
Speaker 1: ball handler this year. Forty eight players at least forty possessions.
Speaker 1: Lebron is dead last and is scoring just zero point
Speaker 1: five six points per possession in those situations. And it's
Speaker 1: because he's being incredibly passive there, and that's a huge
Speaker 1: part of the problem with the Lakers offense right now.
Speaker 1: Now he was sick, and now Lonnie Walker sick, and
Speaker 1: now Patrick Beverley sick. Anthony Davis said he caught it two.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bug going around the Lakers. I
Speaker 1: want to cut him some slack. And he did look
Speaker 1: a lot better against Cleveland than he had in in
Speaker 1: recent games. But Lebron's inability to make jump shots, in
Speaker 1: him not being aggressive in pick and roll, those two
Speaker 1: things are a huge problem for the Lakers right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're two and seven, but their fifth in defense. The
Speaker 1: Lakers are literally fifth in defense after having the third
Speaker 1: toughest schedule in the league according to ESPN, literally a
Speaker 1: playoff team every single night. That's how difficult their schedule
Speaker 1: has been. And they're getting stops. So getting the offense
Speaker 1: figured out is the difference between this team notching a
Speaker 1: bunch of wins and continuing to flounder in the failure
Speaker 1: failure that they've been floundering in. So the Labarn thing
Speaker 1: is worth keeping an eye on now. I I anticipate
Speaker 1: that he'll figure it out, but let's be clear about
Speaker 1: what's happened to this point in the season. Blast Out
Speaker 1: of the Lakers Anthony Davis, so Bill Simmons started a
Speaker 1: little bit of a fire last night when he said
Speaker 1: that he had been hearing rumors um that Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: might be available for trade. And then I also saw
Speaker 1: something that said Hon Coward might have seconded that, but
Speaker 1: I didn't actually specifically see that audio, so I'm not
Speaker 1: a percent sure, but I did think that was interesting,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of the talk that was dominating, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Twitter today. It was just like, is Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis gonna be traded? Who would you trade him to?
Speaker 1: You know, why would they trade him? That sort of thing.
Speaker 1: First of all, he's been the best player in the
Speaker 1: Lakers by a mile so far this year. He's not
Speaker 1: what he was offensively, not even close, but I think
Speaker 1: he's been the best defensive player in the league and
Speaker 1: probably is the front runner for defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year if the Lakers could win enough games on the offensive.
Speaker 1: And he's still giving you twenty three points per game
Speaker 1: on fifty percentury shooting, which is fine, but obviously he's
Speaker 1: got some ground to go there. But he's been so
Speaker 1: good defensively that he's right around the tenth best player
Speaker 1: in the league right now, which is good. He's doing
Speaker 1: his job a d is doing his part. I've been
Speaker 1: critical of him in the past. I wish he could
Speaker 1: get it together offensively. He's had some bad defensive games
Speaker 1: this season, but for the most part, he's been great.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to trade Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1: Tanking is pointless. They don't own their pick, Like if
Speaker 1: they have a terrible season this year, the Pelicans have
Speaker 1: the right to swap with them, and if they have
Speaker 1: a great season this year, then they'll just take their
Speaker 1: pick the following season. So there's just no advantage to
Speaker 1: tank it. You're also not gonna get any value for
Speaker 1: him aside from draft capital. The quality of players you're
Speaker 1: gonna get back for Anthony Davis are gonna be like
Speaker 1: what the Jazz got for Gobert Rotation level NBA players
Speaker 1: and a bunch of draft picks. So the only value
Speaker 1: there is draft capital, which doesn't benefit this particular window.
Speaker 1: So I just don't really see the point. Now, there
Speaker 1: are two scenarios where I could see the Lakers trading
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis during this season. First is Katie becomes available
Speaker 1: and somehow Brooklyn says I'd rather have Anthony Davis in
Speaker 1: two First, round picks than DeAndre Ayton or Michail Bridges
Speaker 1: or or did Jalen Brown or any of the other
Speaker 1: packages that were out there, if you were under the impression,
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn calls you and goes, we will do this
Speaker 1: deal right now, give us Anthony Davis in two first
Speaker 1: round picks. Rob Blinka says, yes, like I genuinely believe
Speaker 1: that he would. But that's that's that's one of the
Speaker 1: potential scenarios. The only other one I could think of
Speaker 1: is if Lebron like had a season ending injury and
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis was still healthy, and the Lakers are pretty
Speaker 1: sure after all these years that he's not their franchise cornerstone,
Speaker 1: so they opt to go full rebuild because they know
Speaker 1: Lebron's careers basically over, and Anthony Davis um can fetch,
Speaker 1: you know, some trade assets and help them kind of
Speaker 1: spark or rebuild. But that's those are the only two
Speaker 1: scenarios where I could see that happening this season, and
Speaker 1: I view both of those as extremely unlikely. So I
Speaker 1: don't think it's happening. I don't think they're just gonna
Speaker 1: send him to the Knicks or to the Warriors in
Speaker 1: exchange for role players. I don't I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: Now here's what I would do, um if I I
Speaker 1: would go all in with this particular group, So I
Speaker 1: would trade Russell Westbrook. And first of all, I know
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook has been pretty good as of late, but
Speaker 1: he's still very volatile. He still very up and down.
Speaker 1: And the Lakers, by the way, or the second worst
Speaker 1: transition defense in the league, and so turnovers and miss
Speaker 1: layups and things can be very detrimental to them. It's
Speaker 1: almost like pick sixes and Russell Westbrook in that Cleveland game,
Speaker 1: in a really bad second half for the game, he
Speaker 1: had ten more miss layups and turnovers, which you know
Speaker 1: helps hurt the Lakers in transition defense. He's been better,
Speaker 1: a lot better, uh in fact, aggregate good during this
Speaker 1: season compared to bad the way he was last season.
Speaker 1: So Russ has been better. However, the best way to
Speaker 1: upgrade the team remains his salary, a massive salary that
Speaker 1: can bring back multiple players in conjunction with multiple draft picks.
Speaker 1: So I would go all in with the Westbrook trade.
Speaker 1: Then what you do is you've put the fate of
Speaker 1: the season and Lebron James and Anthony Days his hands.
Speaker 1: If you bring back Buddy Yield and Miles Turner just
Speaker 1: to make it easy. Now you're giving them Patrick Beverley,
Speaker 1: you know, or Lonnie Walker, Buddy Yield, you know, Lebron, James,
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Miles Turner. Now all these guys like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Troy Brown Junior and Austin Reeves are in
Speaker 1: benchrolls where they probably belong at this phase in their careers.
Speaker 1: Everything starts to make more sense. If they lose, Like,
Speaker 1: if they still suck, that's Lebron and Anthony Davis's fault.
Speaker 1: It's because they weren't good enough. So if they're not
Speaker 1: good enough anymore after a full season, then you know
Speaker 1: for sure that that can't be your core anymore. So
Speaker 1: that's when you can do something like either you decide like, okay,
Speaker 1: e d is worth salvaging, So I'm gonna trade Lebron
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna refill my draft a stash. Okay, I
Speaker 1: lost two picks to Indiana and the Heeled trade, but
Speaker 1: we sucked. The season was a disaster, so I traded Lebron.
Speaker 1: Now I have three more first round draft picks. Or
Speaker 1: maybe it's like we're keeping Lebron, but Anthony Davis keeps
Speaker 1: getting hurt. We can't keep. Okay, we're gonna trade Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1: Now we got two more draft picks back, you know,
Speaker 1: or heck, maybe it's both. Like Lebron and a d
Speaker 1: out the window. Here comes six draft picks and a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, young players. Like who knows what
Speaker 1: that looks like. But the point is is, like everyone
Speaker 1: talks about these two Laker draft picks like they're the
Speaker 1: last draft picks the Lakers will ever own, and that
Speaker 1: they don't have the flexibility or the capability of bringing
Speaker 1: in future draft assets. Yes, they do trade the picks,
Speaker 1: trade Russ, bring in role players, give Lebron and Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis a real chance to win this season. If they
Speaker 1: do great, If not, then you blow it up. And
Speaker 1: when you blow it up, you're able to recoup those
Speaker 1: draft assets. This is a this is a process that
Speaker 1: has been done many times in NBA history. There's a
Speaker 1: playbook out for this kind of thing, you know. And
Speaker 1: and like, I don't even know that I've never understood
Speaker 1: the session with the draft picks, and I really don't
Speaker 1: understand the obsession with the cap space if they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. Next year's free agent classes are really bad.
Speaker 1: It's not a good year to have cap space. So
Speaker 1: that again, that's just what I would do if I
Speaker 1: was running the Lakers, and you know, but I'm not
Speaker 1: in the chair. Rob Blinker runs the team. We're gonna
Speaker 1: find out sooner, not all right quickly, before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. I wanted to shout out Kevin durant
Speaker 1: Um after the Kyrie suspension. I talked about how it
Speaker 1: was going to require a herculean performance from k D
Speaker 1: to keep this team afloat in the meantime, and I
Speaker 1: predicted that they would go one in four in their
Speaker 1: next five games stretched the the you know, the window
Speaker 1: of ka Kyrie suspension, and they've already proved me wrong
Speaker 1: because they've gone to a O. And what's funny is
Speaker 1: there's nothing exceptional in the stats. KAD average nine and
Speaker 1: seven over this two game span from the field and
Speaker 1: from three, arguably below what you would expect statistically from
Speaker 1: Kevin durant But as I've always said, that's just the
Speaker 1: worst way to evaluate talent. We're looking at so many
Speaker 1: different areas of the game, and I hope we've done
Speaker 1: a good job of explaining that over the course of
Speaker 1: this show. Um, but from the start of those games,
Speaker 1: the energy was just different than it was in any
Speaker 1: of the other Nets games this season. You know, Katie
Speaker 1: himself said after the game quote, I just think we
Speaker 1: rallied around each other. It was a tough week for us,
Speaker 1: and it's always good to just get back to the game.
Speaker 1: Once the ball is tipped, all the bullshit goes out
Speaker 1: the window, and you could tangibly see that from the
Speaker 1: team in this game. In those two games, Katie came
Speaker 1: out super engaged from the start on both ends of
Speaker 1: the floor. He took care of the basketball, which is
Speaker 1: something he hasn't done all season. He only had five
Speaker 1: turnovers total in the two games. He defended the rim well.
Speaker 1: He had four blocks, and the whole team responded. What
Speaker 1: are the two things that have destroyed the Brooklyn Nets
Speaker 1: this year? Defending and grabbing rebounds. In the two wins,
Speaker 1: they grabbed fort of available rebounds, which is solid. That
Speaker 1: means they just barely got out rebounded instead of getting destroyed.
Speaker 1: And then they notched a defensive rating of ninety four,
Speaker 1: which is outstanding, and particularly against the Wizards team which
Speaker 1: has a lot of offensive talent. So you know, essentially
Speaker 1: they got Kyrie out of the picture a little bit.
Speaker 1: The distraction was gone. Kadi was a pent Kevin freaking Durant.
Speaker 1: The role players were galvanized by that. And they want
Speaker 1: a couple of basketball games. Now, are they going to
Speaker 1: continue to win basketball games? I don't know, Probably not.
Speaker 1: They don't have enough talent, and so I still think
Speaker 1: this has headed towards the thing blowing up. But what
Speaker 1: it was just a great example of how a stars
Speaker 1: engagement level is so important for the rest of the team,
Speaker 1: and also just how good Kevin freaking Durant still is
Speaker 1: at basketball. You know, I tweeted that night, I hope
Speaker 1: someone rescues him so I can watch him play some
Speaker 1: meaningful basketball. You know, it's funny. The the irony of
Speaker 1: the k D Kyrie partnership is they're so they're wired
Speaker 1: very differently. Katie is like the first thing in his
Speaker 1: life is basketball, and then spots two through five are vacant,
Speaker 1: and then I don't even know what six is, video
Speaker 1: games or who down knows me like something like that.
Speaker 1: Basketball is all that matters to him. It's his favorite
Speaker 1: thing to do in the world. It's all he cares about.
Speaker 1: When anything interferes with that, he hates it. And he's
Speaker 1: been thrust into this situation. I shouldn't even say thrust.
Speaker 1: He willingly went into the situation with Kyrie, a player
Speaker 1: who frequently gets distracted from basketball, and it's massively undercut
Speaker 1: his ability to achieve his goals in this environment. Katie
Speaker 1: is a hooper. He deserves to be in a situation
Speaker 1: where he can just play basketball and not have to
Speaker 1: worry about any of this stuff. And selfishly, as a
Speaker 1: fan of the game of basketball and is a fan
Speaker 1: of k D, I want him to play on a
Speaker 1: good team because I want to see k D play
Speaker 1: meaningful basketball late into May and into early June, so
Speaker 1: I can see what he's capable of on that biggest
Speaker 1: stage again like we've seen so many times in the past.
Speaker 1: But I did. I did just want to shout out
Speaker 1: KD for what I thought was a really, really impressive
Speaker 1: couple of basketball games. All right. That is all we
Speaker 1: have for to night. Obviously a ton more games going
Speaker 1: on while we're even recording this show, But tomorrow, I
Speaker 1: believe at six pm Eastern time, we are going to
Speaker 1: be live on AMP going over the late night slate
Speaker 1: from tonight's games, and then Wednesday, we're going live on
Speaker 1: AMP after Nick's nets and then live on YouTube after
Speaker 1: Lakers Clippers. As always, I sincerely appreciate your guys support
Speaker 1: and I will see you next time. The volume