Speaker 1: Brett New second Date update.
Speaker 2: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you know
Speaker 2: it's gonna be wild when someone is trying online dating
Speaker 2: for their first time and they choose plenty of fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that is already setting us up
Speaker 2: for quite the story. Yeah, so you definitely want to
Speaker 2: stick around for this one, and we love to read
Speaker 2: your comments. Thank you always, and thank you to everyone too.
Speaker 2: The text into the show, yeah, number seven, eight, five,
Speaker 2: nine to two. It's always funny to see because, like
Speaker 2: it used to be that the text would only come
Speaker 2: in when we were on the radio, and now we
Speaker 2: get them all day, all night, all weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I feel really creepy. I'll see a text
Speaker 3: from like two days before at nine pm and I
Speaker 3: reply to it. So this person's probably like, why is
Speaker 3: she messaging me now?
Speaker 1: But I want to reply to you. But we love
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Speaker 1: you see, Alexis?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Francis Harrison said. In the years I've been an
Speaker 3: avid listener, I've introduced this podcast to every team I've
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fringe, our Rooit, you're just waiting so yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: see how much HR likes this second dat day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it starts right now. Even don't play this
Speaker 1: on out loud.
Speaker 4: The.
Speaker 5: Second date up day. Imagine getting back on the dating
Speaker 5: apps after being married for years.
Speaker 1: That would be weird.
Speaker 5: Now what does that look like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents?
Speaker 5: In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five.
Speaker 5: And I'm not even talking about the writing in that.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I forgot. There's like ten of those.
Speaker 5: Yeah, scripts not great, And you're just jumping into a
Speaker 5: scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before.
Speaker 5: And we've got a woman who recently canon balls back
Speaker 5: into the dating pool and needs a little help from
Speaker 5: us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome to
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 7: Thanks guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: It sounds like your experience is more of a belly
Speaker 1: flop than a cannonball.
Speaker 5: We don't know everything about your date yet. Why don't
Speaker 5: we start from the beginning and tell us who's this
Speaker 5: person that you met recently online?
Speaker 7: Well, I met a guy on Plenty of Fish and
Speaker 7: I am recently divorced. I've been married for years. I
Speaker 7: got married very young.
Speaker 1: So had you ever done dating apps prior to this.
Speaker 7: Never I've been married for a long time and so
Speaker 7: I'm kind of getting out there again. And it's terrifying,
Speaker 7: it really is. You see these horrible stories on the
Speaker 7: news and you think and oh my god, this person
Speaker 7: is serial killer? Is it's too good to be true?
Speaker 6: What kind of dating app are you on?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 6: Are you swiping? Or are you like on one of
Speaker 6: those real sophisticated ones where you fill out a bio?
Speaker 1: She said plenty of Fish, So I don't know about sophisticated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mad.
Speaker 7: My friends were like, plenty of Fish is good, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay.
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people.
Speaker 5: But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name?
Speaker 7: His name is Keith?
Speaker 2: Okay, first guy you've matched with and got out with.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, oh wow, kind of wow.
Speaker 5: It's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith?
Speaker 7: I got a good vibe from him, and you know,
Speaker 7: he likes dogs. He's kind of in a similar situation
Speaker 7: where he said he's getting back out there and we
Speaker 7: talked a little bit online, so I kind of felt
Speaker 7: good about him.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So how long did it take I mean
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you guys met up in real life.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah. Yeah, So he was really sweet. He was like,
Speaker 7: where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 6: It's funny you said that. I was like ooh. And
Speaker 6: then I'm like, I'm the only guy that's Probably.
Speaker 2: Nothing says sexy like some orchids.
Speaker 5: Things get hot by the reflection pool.
Speaker 1: Sure, it is kind of humid in those places.
Speaker 7: You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like
Speaker 7: photos and I was just kind of like, well, maybe
Speaker 7: he knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would
Speaker 7: like it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk.
Speaker 5: So how did that go?
Speaker 6: Like a museum, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than sitting.
Speaker 6: At a bar.
Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of other people around, and
Speaker 7: you got plants.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle
Speaker 2: of it all exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like we're going to a butterfly farm or something.
Speaker 5: This is your first date that you've been on since
Speaker 5: you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How
Speaker 5: did it go.
Speaker 7: Well. I mean I was pleasantly surprised he was dressed
Speaker 7: a bit more casually than I was. But we we
Speaker 7: strolled around and we discussed flowers, and I gave him
Speaker 7: some facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned
Speaker 7: over the years, you know, just conversation starters, hopefully.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you were yourself on the date?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I do. I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was
Speaker 7: like super nervous at first, but I calmed down as
Speaker 7: soon as he like, you know, I just got a
Speaker 7: good vibe from him, and you're.
Speaker 6: In like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with.
Speaker 5: Just right, That's awesome.
Speaker 7: Didn't just talk about orchids, well, no, I mean there
Speaker 7: was lots of other plants. We talked about a lot
Speaker 7: of that, and I mean there was this one really
Speaker 7: embarrassing moment. He knocked over a decorative like water can thing.
Speaker 7: Oh it broke, and I was like in Employees were like, oh,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my gosh. So I just made
Speaker 7: a joke that he was like dangerous to plants, and
Speaker 7: I'm like hoping he didn't get offended.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: So that's the one thing you found that went wrong
Speaker 2: with your date is that you may have offended him
Speaker 2: with your plant joke.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm scared that I offended him, but he seemed okay.
Speaker 7: We sat down and we got tea from the little
Speaker 7: stand and the date ended really, really well, I thought.
Speaker 7: I mean, he walked me to my car, gave me
Speaker 7: a hug. I told him, I had a great time.
Speaker 1: This is really wholesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 7: I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too
Speaker 7: good to be true, but I mean, we had a
Speaker 7: nice time, and I told him, I said, look, I
Speaker 7: would love to see you again and just kind of
Speaker 7: do something similar or maybe go out to eat or
Speaker 7: something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and
Speaker 7: I'm just kind of upset right now.
Speaker 6: May have been out of the dating game for a while,
Speaker 6: but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on
Speaker 6: the apps and when things go wrong, you come right
Speaker 6: to us. That's what everybody does, and it's dating nowadays.
Speaker 5: Good job, Thank you.
Speaker 7: I'm just like I said, I'm learning to get back
Speaker 7: out there, and I mean it works a scenario if
Speaker 7: if I did screw up, I did do something wrong
Speaker 7: because I'm so new to the dating you know game
Speaker 7: again that maybe, you know, if I made a mistake,
Speaker 7: I can learn from it. It could be a learning moment.
Speaker 7: I can move on and improve it.
Speaker 1: That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude.
Speaker 5: And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just
Speaker 5: like your app says, there are plenty of fish out
Speaker 5: there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with.
Speaker 4: Right, right, Okay.
Speaker 5: So how long has it been since your botanical garden
Speaker 5: date happened.
Speaker 7: It's been like two weeks.
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, that's a long time in the modern dating
Speaker 5: world or.
Speaker 3: Of the experience, you need to get ghosted a lot. Yes, yes, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're gonna
Speaker 5: get him on the line for answers in your second
Speaker 5: date update. Right after this second date update if you're
Speaker 5: just joining us for the second date, We've been talking
Speaker 5: to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage, recently hopped
Speaker 5: back into the dating world. Yeah, even though she was nervous,
Speaker 5: she went full out. Ye did all the stereotypical hot
Speaker 5: date things. Botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, even edgy
Speaker 5: plant humor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: Intense, to say the least. But two weeks later she's
Speaker 5: getting her very first taste of ghosting. Isn't sure? Why?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Before we call Keith here, I do want to ask you, Vanessa,
Speaker 5: since you said you were the one who suggested the
Speaker 5: botanical gardens, you think it's possible that Keith maybe wasn't
Speaker 5: as into plant dates as you were.
Speaker 1: She thought that he was just because of his profile picks.
Speaker 1: But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture.
Speaker 5: Sure, you know, did you pick up a vibe like
Speaker 5: that at all?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean that's a possibility.
Speaker 6: Wait, did you know most guys are, but not everyone's
Speaker 6: a flower guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he could see you as a botanical garden lady,
Speaker 5: where he's more of a beer garden type of dude. Yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between to
Speaker 5: send you on your next date. Let's reach out. We're
Speaker 5: going to dial his number right now and hopefully he
Speaker 5: picks up.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, okay, don't let this ruin the
Speaker 2: rest of your dating experience.
Speaker 1: One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten.
Speaker 5: Oh I thought you thought you mean us? No will,
Speaker 5: We're gonna try our best here. I'm calling him right now.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 5: Hey, we're looking to speak with Keith.
Speaker 4: This is he who's calling.
Speaker 5: Hey man. This is a radio show called Brook and
Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, good morning.
Speaker 5: Hi. We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called
Speaker 5: a second date update. I don't know if you know
Speaker 5: about that, but it's where if one of our listeners
Speaker 5: goes out with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a
Speaker 5: call back, they can email us to reach out to
Speaker 5: them and try and figure out if there's a reason
Speaker 5: for that.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, come on.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun. I mean, who'd ever think that
Speaker 1: you'd be called for a reason like this.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to ask who's the person?
Speaker 1: You don't want to ask? Curious?
Speaker 5: I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's
Speaker 5: a good thing that they felt so strongly about you
Speaker 5: they reached out to us for help. But in this case,
Speaker 5: it's a woman named Vanessa.
Speaker 4: Mmm okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want to add
Speaker 4: what no.
Speaker 2: Why oh botanical garden Vanessa?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Why did you say? I don't want us to ask.
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't know what she told you, but that woman,
Speaker 4: she's a freak.
Speaker 1: What talking about the same, But what's the ones you
Speaker 1: least expect?
Speaker 5: I can't You're not wrong a freak cow.
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak bad on anybody. But first
Speaker 4: and foremost, we met up woman's at Plenty of Fish,
Speaker 4: and he was deliberately catfishing me with these these pictures
Speaker 4: from like ten to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 6: But that's an accident, I understand.
Speaker 3: I always think about that when you get back into
Speaker 3: dating after that long. How do you have good photos
Speaker 3: for an hour?
Speaker 2: Because if you were married, there's no way a husband
Speaker 2: was taking good nuers of you.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry doing bill on the couch?
Speaker 5: Do you know all of this? Keith about Vanessa that
Speaker 5: it's her first time at least in a long time
Speaker 5: on the dating app?
Speaker 4: No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married
Speaker 4: for a good little while, but it was obviously a
Speaker 4: longer while than I thought.
Speaker 2: What wait, are you saying that she was a lot
Speaker 2: older than you expected?
Speaker 4: The pictures made me think we were around the same age.
Speaker 4: But honestly, it's that woman could be my mother at
Speaker 4: this point, Oh.
Speaker 6: Black and white, because it's normally a sign.
Speaker 5: Okay, And what part of that turns you off?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys.
Speaker 1: He's joking.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when you expect
Speaker 2: one thing and you get something else when you started dating, right, So,
Speaker 2: right at the beginning, you were turned off.
Speaker 4: I was shocked. But I'm just like, listen, I'm already
Speaker 4: out here. Might as well just go through with it, okay.
Speaker 5: And we ended up going to this botanical garden, right
Speaker 5: we heard that that was actually her idea. But I'm
Speaker 5: more curious about why you said she's a freak. Well
Speaker 5: how did that come up?
Speaker 1: I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But
Speaker 1: is that what you meant?
Speaker 6: Could be multiple meetings here?
Speaker 4: No, we're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive,
Speaker 4: like she's asking me what kind of pictures do I
Speaker 4: want from her? And she keeps going on about it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's okay, I don't need anything.
Speaker 6: What Oh she wanted a hot picture?
Speaker 5: Oh? But she's asking what ones that she can send.
Speaker 4: To you apparently, but oh, I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: gonna be fifteen years old too, or what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like.
Speaker 1: It does take worse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's like, do you want one side or do
Speaker 5: you want both of them?
Speaker 2: It's an awkward it's an awkward assumption that anyone wants
Speaker 2: them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in
Speaker 2: the daytime, totally sober.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And I told her I don't need any
Speaker 4: of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like, oh,
Speaker 4: you want the real thing.
Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, Okay. She was married for a long time.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's like living.
Speaker 6: Out what she didn't get to do before.
Speaker 1: Or maybe she thinks that this is how did works now,
Speaker 1: you know, just.
Speaker 5: Trying it out.
Speaker 4: It's one thing to be trying it out. But she
Speaker 4: literally suggested. They had this little plant shop in the garden,
Speaker 4: and she suggested we go behind it and do things.
Speaker 5: Whoa Vanessa dude.
Speaker 6: I would have been mortified.
Speaker 5: I did not get that vibe from her when we
Speaker 5: were talking to her before.
Speaker 1: How did you even respond?
Speaker 4: I had no time to respond. She was like, there's
Speaker 4: nobody in the women's restroom.
Speaker 5: And that was all a turn off to you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was that and then having to sit
Speaker 4: down and drink tea casually after that, Oh oh.
Speaker 6: Wow, after you, like Loki rejected her.
Speaker 1: Make awkward eye contact the entire time.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, the goodness is you won't have to worry
Speaker 5: about awkward eye contact in this situation because she is
Speaker 5: on the line so you can't see her, but she
Speaker 5: does want to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, she literally heard all of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she needed to think. So you're there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm here. I mean like that. That's just
Speaker 7: what men want, right, and that's just how I am.
Speaker 7: I'm very active and like you know, I have a
Speaker 7: very high drive.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay, I.
Speaker 7: Didn't know I was dating a snowflake me.
Speaker 1: Whoa?
Speaker 7: If you're not going to be, you know, a man,
Speaker 7: then I'm gonna have this initiative.
Speaker 5: She's calling you out, dude, What do you have to
Speaker 5: say to that?
Speaker 4: WHOA? Do you think taking initiative is going behind a
Speaker 4: plant shop? Does you have to like that?
Speaker 7: That's too much?
Speaker 5: It was you ain't nobody was there.
Speaker 4: It's the first day you.
Speaker 7: Don't Oh my god, many days man, these days?
Speaker 3: Who I don't if it was a Netflix unchild you
Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked. It's the gu really threw it off.
Speaker 4: I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second.
Speaker 4: After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to
Speaker 4: come over. She's telling me that she has these adult
Speaker 4: movies on Blu Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm still put in an adult movie, scratched.
Speaker 1: Let me fix this.
Speaker 7: Yeah you have those, well those were my husbands I
Speaker 7: got them in the divorce.
Speaker 5: Navigate. It's nice of you to offer to share that
Speaker 5: with your.
Speaker 2: Date, but your date isn't responding to any of your
Speaker 2: text messages, and you keep going, well.
Speaker 7: He never said no, Yeah, but he didn't say yes.
Speaker 5: You know, well, this is a good chance for him
Speaker 5: to say yes, because we're going to offer to send
Speaker 5: you two out on another date. And Keith, if you're
Speaker 5: if you're open to trying this and giving Vanessa another chance,
Speaker 5: will pay for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around.
Speaker 5: She says herself that she's very forward, she's open. She's
Speaker 5: just putting herself out there only because she felt such
Speaker 5: a good connection with you. I'm assuming so.
Speaker 1: Sounded like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't
Speaker 1: get over it was it was I was never looking
Speaker 1: at candle guard. She didn't want it to be sweetened?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 5: Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit
Speaker 5: better because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say
Speaker 5: yes to another date with her, absolutely not.
Speaker 7: Here's just such a whim.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, I think that you like going forward
Speaker 2: in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little
Speaker 2: more upfront about what you're looking.
Speaker 5: Full up in frontal is what people are looking for.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like you're game to do that, anyone.
Speaker 7: So my grandkids told me about tender.
Speaker 5: Rookie Jeffrey in the morning. I need to hear from
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Speaker 5: if you've ever successfully fooled around in a botanical garden.
Speaker 5: The more I say it, the hotter it sounds.
Speaker 6: Anyone ever, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't think you'd get caught because nobody would
Speaker 2: suspect it. Yeah, it's not like they're knocking on the
Speaker 2: door of the bathroom. If you've been in there for
Speaker 2: too long.
Speaker 6: People kissing the handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their
Speaker 6: first kiss ever?
Speaker 1: Yea, their grandparents, especially her? Yeah, how she comes off?
Speaker 3: Yeah right, look at her We can even really.
Speaker 1: Go back to the fact that she basically catfished him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fishing.
Speaker 1: She was a lot more seasoned than we gave her
Speaker 1: credit for.
Speaker 5: It's true. But my guess is that Brooke is thinking
Speaker 5: the exact same thing that I am. Where have all
Speaker 5: the loose men gone?
Speaker 6: Where did they go?
Speaker 5: They used to be roaming, all the guys keeping it
Speaker 5: zipped up?
Speaker 1: Nowadays, why do you men have self respect?
Speaker 5: It's just a different day and age. Now people are
Speaker 5: hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops in broad daylight.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I never thought would be here, Jeff. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, listening to us on the podcast right now. Make
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Speaker 5: help in your dating life, you can always email the show.
Speaker 5: We'll call that person who's not calling you back.