WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Floral Intentions 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.360 Brett New second Date update. 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.360 It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you know 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.120 it's gonna be wild when someone is trying online dating 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.000 for their first time and they choose plenty of fish. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.680 Yeah yeah, I mean that is already setting us up 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.120 for quite the story. Yeah, so you definitely want to 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.720 stick around for this one, and we love to read 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.480 your comments. Thank you always, and thank you to everyone too. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.520 The text into the show, yeah, number seven, eight, five, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.319 nine to two. It's always funny to see because, like 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.760 it used to be that the text would only come 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.880 in when we were on the radio, and now we 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.120 get them all day, all night, all weekend. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.480 Yeah, sometimes I feel really creepy. I'll see a text 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.280 from like two days before at nine pm and I 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.479 reply to it. So this person's probably like, why is 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:41.560 she messaging me now? 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.000 But I want to reply to you. But we love 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.920 the comment sections two and YouTube and Spotify. What do 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:48.600 you see, Alexis? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.400 Yeah, Francis Harrison said. In the years I've been an 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.680 avid listener, I've introduced this podcast to every team I've 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.120 worked on. Yeh and HR violations. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:04.880 Yeah, Fringe, our Rooit, you're just waiting so yeah, we'll 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.040 see how much HR likes this second dat day. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.280 Yeah, yeah, it starts right now. Even don't play this 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:09.839 on out loud. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:09.880 The. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:17.520 Second date up day. Imagine getting back on the dating 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.160 apps after being married for years. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:22.919 That would be weird. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.319 Now what does that look like? 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.360 Yeah, my parents? 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:32.959 In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.720 And I'm not even talking about the writing in that. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:37.920 Oh my god, I forgot. There's like ten of those. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.640 Yeah, scripts not great, And you're just jumping into a 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.319 scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.520 And we've got a woman who recently canon balls back 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.000 into the dating pool and needs a little help from 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.720 us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome to 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.120 the show. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.240 Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.400 It sounds like your experience is more of a belly 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.520 flop than a cannonball. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.920 We don't know everything about your date yet. Why don't 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.880 we start from the beginning and tell us who's this 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.040 person that you met recently online? 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.799 Well, I met a guy on Plenty of Fish and 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.240 I am recently divorced. I've been married for years. I 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.360 got married very young. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.519 So had you ever done dating apps prior to this. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.680 Never I've been married for a long time and so 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.800 I'm kind of getting out there again. And it's terrifying, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.920 it really is. You see these horrible stories on the 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.480 news and you think and oh my god, this person 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.280 is serial killer? Is it's too good to be true? 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.040 What kind of dating app are you on? 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.240 Though? 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.560 Are you swiping? Or are you like on one of 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.839 those real sophisticated ones where you fill out a bio? 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.000 She said plenty of Fish, So I don't know about sophisticated. Yeah, 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:46.480 my mad. 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.840 My friends were like, plenty of Fish is good, and 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:49.760 I'm like, okay. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.600 So oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.560 But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name? 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:57.920 His name is Keith? 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.560 Okay, first guy you've matched with and got out with. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.720 Yes, yes, oh wow, kind of wow. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.600 It's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith? 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.120 I got a good vibe from him, and you know, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.480 he likes dogs. He's kind of in a similar situation 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.639 where he said he's getting back out there and we 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.920 talked a little bit online, so I kind of felt 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:19.600 good about him. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.160 Okay, okay, So how long did it take I mean 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.320 I'm assuming you guys met up in real life. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.040 Right, Yeah. Yeah, So he was really sweet. He was like, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.600 where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.679 that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.280 Oh oh yeah. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.440 It's funny you said that. I was like ooh. And 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.080 then I'm like, I'm the only guy that's Probably. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:45.240 Nothing says sexy like some orchids. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.080 Things get hot by the reflection pool. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.080 Sure, it is kind of humid in those places. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.880 You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.960 photos and I was just kind of like, well, maybe 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.200 he knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:57.600 like it too. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:58.040 Yeah. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.640 No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.400 So how did that go? 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.520 Like a museum, I. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.120 Mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than sitting. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:08.400 At a bar. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.200 You know, there's a lot of other people around, and 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:15.040 you got plants. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.119 Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.440 of it all exactly. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.599 Yeah, Like we're going to a butterfly farm or something. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.480 This is your first date that you've been on since 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.520 you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:27.960 did it go. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.720 Well. I mean I was pleasantly surprised he was dressed 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.960 a bit more casually than I was. But we we 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.040 strolled around and we discussed flowers, and I gave him 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.239 some facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.800 over the years, you know, just conversation starters, hopefully. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:43.160 You know. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.839 Do you think that you were yourself on the date? 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:46.799 Yeah? 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.159 I do. I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.120 like super nervous at first, but I calmed down as 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.919 soon as he like, you know, I just got a 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.760 good vibe from him, and you're. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.000 In like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.080 Just right, That's awesome. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.920 Didn't just talk about orchids, well, no, I mean there 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.960 was lots of other plants. We talked about a lot 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.080 of that, and I mean there was this one really 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.680 embarrassing moment. He knocked over a decorative like water can thing. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.840 Oh it broke, and I was like in Employees were like, oh, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.760 I was like, oh my gosh. So I just made 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.320 a joke that he was like dangerous to plants, and 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.040 I'm like hoping he didn't get offended. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.920 I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.640 So that's the one thing you found that went wrong 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.839 with your date is that you may have offended him 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.960 with your plant joke. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.040 Yeah, I'm scared that I offended him, but he seemed okay. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.719 We sat down and we got tea from the little 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.120 stand and the date ended really, really well, I thought. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.000 I mean, he walked me to my car, gave me 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.120 a hug. I told him, I had a great time. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:51.560 This is really wholesome. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.520 Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:55.120 I know. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.880 I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.240 good to be true, but I mean, we had a 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.080 nice time, and I told him, I said, look, I 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.359 would love to see you again and just kind of 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.960 do something similar or maybe go out to eat or 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.240 something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.200 I'm just kind of upset right now. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.920 May have been out of the dating game for a while, 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.520 but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.800 the apps and when things go wrong, you come right 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.640 to us. That's what everybody does, and it's dating nowadays. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.480 Good job, Thank you. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.479 I'm just like I said, I'm learning to get back 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.800 out there, and I mean it works a scenario if 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.159 if I did screw up, I did do something wrong 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.000 because I'm so new to the dating you know game 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.120 again that maybe, you know, if I made a mistake, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.919 I can learn from it. It could be a learning moment. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.200 I can move on and improve it. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.799 That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.680 And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.279 like your app says, there are plenty of fish out 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.240 there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.640 Right, right, Okay. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.520 So how long has it been since your botanical garden 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:53.239 date happened. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.680 It's been like two weeks. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.200 Oh, okay, that's a long time in the modern dating 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.200 world or. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:06.440 Of the experience, you need to get ghosted a lot. Yes, yes, yeah, exactly. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.640 Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're gonna 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.880 get him on the line for answers in your second 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:17.320 date update. Right after this second date update if you're 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.840 just joining us for the second date, We've been talking 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.679 to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage, recently hopped 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.640 back into the dating world. Yeah, even though she was nervous, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.080 she went full out. Ye did all the stereotypical hot 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:40.480 date things. Botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, even edgy 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:41.360 plant humor. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:42.960 Yeah, it was. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.200 Intense, to say the least. But two weeks later she's 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.880 getting her very first taste of ghosting. Isn't sure? Why? 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:52.280 Now? 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 Before we call Keith here, I do want to ask you, Vanessa, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.840 since you said you were the one who suggested the 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.760 botanical gardens, you think it's possible that Keith maybe wasn't 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.600 as into plant dates as you were. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.280 She thought that he was just because of his profile picks. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.400 But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.960 Sure, you know, did you pick up a vibe like 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:14.400 that at all? 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.840 Yeah? I mean that's a possibility. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.480 Wait, did you know most guys are, but not everyone's 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:20.360 a flower guy. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.360 Yeah, he could see you as a botanical garden lady, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:30.200 where he's more of a beer garden type of dude. Yeah, 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.000 maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between to 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.480 send you on your next date. Let's reach out. We're 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.200 going to dial his number right now and hopefully he 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:37.640 picks up. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.040 Okay, okay, all right, okay, don't let this ruin the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.400 rest of your dating experience. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.480 One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.240 Oh I thought you thought you mean us? No will, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.319 We're gonna try our best here. I'm calling him right now. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:00.319 Hello. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:02.839 Hey, we're looking to speak with Keith. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:05.800 This is he who's calling. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.360 Hey man. This is a radio show called Brook and 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.400 Jeffrey in the Morning. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.040 Hello. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.960 Oh, okay, good morning. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.439 Hi. We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.640 a second date update. I don't know if you know 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.160 about that, but it's where if one of our listeners 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.760 goes out with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.560 call back, they can email us to reach out to 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.640 them and try and figure out if there's a reason 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:32.960 for that. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.559 Oh my god, come on. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.880 It's kind of fun. I mean, who'd ever think that 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.439 you'd be called for a reason like this. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.040 I don't even want to ask who's the person? 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.959 You don't want to ask? Curious? 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.880 I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.800 a good thing that they felt so strongly about you 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.160 they reached out to us for help. But in this case, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.319 it's a woman named Vanessa. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.600 Mmm okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want to add 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:02.880 what no. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.600 Why oh botanical garden Vanessa? 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:07.920 Yeah? 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.600 Yeah, Oh my god. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.040 Why did you say? I don't want us to ask. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.360 Listen, I don't know what she told you, but that woman, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:17.840 she's a freak. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:23.320 What talking about the same, But what's the ones you 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:24.040 least expect? 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.400 I can't You're not wrong a freak cow. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.959 I don't want to speak bad on anybody. But first 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.360 and foremost, we met up woman's at Plenty of Fish, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.360 and he was deliberately catfishing me with these these pictures 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.280 from like ten to fifteen years ago. 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.800 But that's an accident, I understand. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.439 I always think about that when you get back into 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.319 dating after that long. How do you have good photos 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:47.840 for an hour? 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.920 Because if you were married, there's no way a husband 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:52.160 was taking good nuers of you. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:53.960 I'm sorry doing bill on the couch? 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.600 Do you know all of this? Keith about Vanessa that 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.280 it's her first time at least in a long time 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.000 on the dating app? 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.240 No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.680 for a good little while, but it was obviously a 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.000 longer while than I thought. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.600 What wait, are you saying that she was a lot 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.040 older than you expected? 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.800 The pictures made me think we were around the same age. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.840 But honestly, it's that woman could be my mother at 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.800 this point, Oh. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.120 Black and white, because it's normally a sign. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.880 Okay, And what part of that turns you off? 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.600 Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.760 He's joking. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.880 I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when you expect 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.880 one thing and you get something else when you started dating, right, So, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.800 right at the beginning, you were turned off. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.440 I was shocked. But I'm just like, listen, I'm already 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.359 out here. Might as well just go through with it, okay. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.240 And we ended up going to this botanical garden, right 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.680 we heard that that was actually her idea. But I'm 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.440 more curious about why you said she's a freak. Well 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:55.240 how did that come up? 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.120 I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:57.920 is that what you meant? 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.160 Could be multiple meetings here? 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.160 No, we're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.240 like she's asking me what kind of pictures do I 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.200 want from her? And she keeps going on about it, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.920 and I'm like, it's okay, I don't need anything. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.120 What Oh she wanted a hot picture? 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.280 Oh? But she's asking what ones that she can send. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.839 To you apparently, but oh, I don't know if there's 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.559 gonna be fifteen years old too, or what. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.360 Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.520 It does take worse. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.440 Yeah, she's like, do you want one side or do 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.400 you want both of them? 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.280 It's an awkward it's an awkward assumption that anyone wants 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.480 them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.280 the daytime, totally sober. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.440 Yeah, exactly. And I told her I don't need any 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.640 of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like, oh, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.800 you want the real thing. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.319 Oh oh wow, Okay. She was married for a long time. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.320 Maybe she's like living. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.319 Out what she didn't get to do before. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.840 Or maybe she thinks that this is how did works now, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.000 you know, just. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:02.560 Trying it out. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.480 It's one thing to be trying it out. But she 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.160 literally suggested. They had this little plant shop in the garden, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.240 and she suggested we go behind it and do things. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:16.680 Whoa Vanessa dude. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.080 I would have been mortified. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.200 I did not get that vibe from her when we 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.480 were talking to her before. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:23.960 How did you even respond? 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.280 I had no time to respond. She was like, there's 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.480 nobody in the women's restroom. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.360 And that was all a turn off to you. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.480 Oh yeah, it was that and then having to sit 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.040 down and drink tea casually after that, Oh oh. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.920 Wow, after you, like Loki rejected her. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.720 Make awkward eye contact the entire time. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.120 Okay, Well, the goodness is you won't have to worry 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.240 about awkward eye contact in this situation because she is 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.000 on the line so you can't see her, but she 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:58.160 does want to talk to you. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.280 Oh wow, Okay, she literally heard all of that. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.440 Yeah, I think she needed to think. So you're there. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:10.560 Yeah, yeah, I'm here. I mean like that. That's just 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.600 what men want, right, and that's just how I am. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.319 I'm very active and like you know, I have a 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:17.280 very high drive. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.960 Oh wow, okay, I. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.280 Didn't know I was dating a snowflake me. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:25.040 Whoa? 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.640 If you're not going to be, you know, a man, 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.840 then I'm gonna have this initiative. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.800 She's calling you out, dude, What do you have to 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:35.280 say to that? 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:40.240 WHOA? Do you think taking initiative is going behind a 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.640 plant shop? Does you have to like that? 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:43.400 That's too much? 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.040 It was you ain't nobody was there. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.800 It's the first day you. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:56.080 Don't Oh my god, many days man, these days? 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.760 Who I don't if it was a Netflix unchild you 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.200 wouldn't be shocked. It's the gu really threw it off. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.800 I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.520 After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.960 come over. She's telling me that she has these adult 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.320 movies on Blu Ray. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.800 I'm still put in an adult movie, scratched. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:21.520 Let me fix this. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.440 Yeah you have those, well those were my husbands I 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:26.840 got them in the divorce. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:34.160 Navigate. It's nice of you to offer to share that 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:34.600 with your. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.280 Date, but your date isn't responding to any of your 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.920 text messages, and you keep going, well. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.840 He never said no, Yeah, but he didn't say yes. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 You know, well, this is a good chance for him 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.240 to say yes, because we're going to offer to send 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.040 you two out on another date. And Keith, if you're 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.560 if you're open to trying this and giving Vanessa another chance, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:15:59.400 will pay for it. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.680 I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.800 She says herself that she's very forward, she's open. She's 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.640 just putting herself out there only because she felt such 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:14.280 a good connection with you. I'm assuming so. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.600 Sounded like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.520 get over it was it was I was never looking 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.680 at candle guard. She didn't want it to be sweetened? 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:23.120 Is it? 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.880 Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.680 better because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.440 yes to another date with her, absolutely not. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:33.920 Here's just such a whim. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.520 I mean, really, I think that you like going forward 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.520 in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.000 more upfront about what you're looking. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.040 Full up in frontal is what people are looking for. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.600 I mean, it sounds like you're game to do that, anyone. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.840 So my grandkids told me about tender. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.360 Rookie Jeffrey in the morning. I need to hear from 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.640 our listeners text in at seventy eight five nine two 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.960 if you've ever successfully fooled around in a botanical garden. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.320 The more I say it, the hotter it sounds. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:13.800 Anyone ever, I. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.800 Mean, I don't think you'd get caught because nobody would 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.800 suspect it. Yeah, it's not like they're knocking on the 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.480 door of the bathroom. If you've been in there for 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:21.960 too long. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.720 People kissing the handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:25.520 first kiss ever? 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.360 Yea, their grandparents, especially her? Yeah, how she comes off? 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.680 Yeah right, look at her We can even really. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.760 Go back to the fact that she basically catfished him. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.560 Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fishing. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.600 She was a lot more seasoned than we gave her 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:43.080 credit for. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.000 It's true. But my guess is that Brooke is thinking 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.160 the exact same thing that I am. Where have all 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:50.359 the loose men gone? 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:53.480 Where did they go? 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.680 They used to be roaming, all the guys keeping it 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.199 zipped up? 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.679 Nowadays, why do you men have self respect? 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.439