1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Brett New second Date update. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 2: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you know 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be wild when someone is trying online dating 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: for their first time and they choose plenty of fish. 5 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that is already setting us up 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: for quite the story. Yeah, so you definitely want to 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: stick around for this one, and we love to read 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: your comments. Thank you always, and thank you to everyone too. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: The text into the show, yeah, number seven, eight, five, 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: nine to two. It's always funny to see because, like 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: it used to be that the text would only come 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: in when we were on the radio, and now we 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: get them all day, all night, all weekend. 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I feel really creepy. I'll see a text 15 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: from like two days before at nine pm and I 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: reply to it. So this person's probably like, why is 17 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: she messaging me now? 18 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: But I want to reply to you. But we love 19 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the comment sections two and YouTube and Spotify. What do 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: you see, Alexis? 21 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Francis Harrison said. In the years I've been an 22 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: avid listener, I've introduced this podcast to every team I've 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: worked on. Yeh and HR violations. 24 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Fringe, our Rooit, you're just waiting so yeah, we'll 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: see how much HR likes this second dat day. 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it starts right now. Even don't play this 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: on out loud. 28 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: The. 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: Second date up day. Imagine getting back on the dating 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: apps after being married for years. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: That would be weird. 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 5: Now what does that look like? 33 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents? 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 5: In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five. 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: And I'm not even talking about the writing in that. 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I forgot. There's like ten of those. 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, scripts not great, And you're just jumping into a 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before. 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 5: And we've got a woman who recently canon balls back 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: into the dating pool and needs a little help from 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome to 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 5: the show. 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 7: Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. 44 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: It sounds like your experience is more of a belly 45 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: flop than a cannonball. 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: We don't know everything about your date yet. Why don't 47 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: we start from the beginning and tell us who's this 48 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: person that you met recently online? 49 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 7: Well, I met a guy on Plenty of Fish and 50 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 7: I am recently divorced. I've been married for years. I 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 7: got married very young. 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: So had you ever done dating apps prior to this. 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 7: Never I've been married for a long time and so 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 7: I'm kind of getting out there again. And it's terrifying, 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 7: it really is. You see these horrible stories on the 56 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 7: news and you think and oh my god, this person 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 7: is serial killer? Is it's too good to be true? 58 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: What kind of dating app are you on? 59 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: Though? 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 6: Are you swiping? Or are you like on one of 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 6: those real sophisticated ones where you fill out a bio? 62 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: She said plenty of Fish, So I don't know about sophisticated. Yeah, 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: my mad. 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 7: My friends were like, plenty of Fish is good, and 65 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 7: I'm like, okay. 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: So oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people. 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name? 68 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 7: His name is Keith? 69 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay, first guy you've matched with and got out with. 70 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, oh wow, kind of wow. 71 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: It's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith? 72 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 7: I got a good vibe from him, and you know, 73 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 7: he likes dogs. He's kind of in a similar situation 74 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 7: where he said he's getting back out there and we 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 7: talked a little bit online, so I kind of felt 76 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 7: good about him. 77 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So how long did it take I mean 78 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you guys met up in real life. 79 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah. Yeah, So he was really sweet. He was like, 80 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 7: where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh, 81 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 7: that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens. 82 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah. 83 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 6: It's funny you said that. I was like ooh. And 84 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 6: then I'm like, I'm the only guy that's Probably. 85 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: Nothing says sexy like some orchids. 86 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 5: Things get hot by the reflection pool. 87 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Sure, it is kind of humid in those places. 88 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 7: You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like 89 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 7: photos and I was just kind of like, well, maybe 90 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 7: he knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would 91 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 7: like it too. 92 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 93 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk. 94 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: So how did that go? 95 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: Like a museum, I. 96 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than sitting. 97 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 6: At a bar. 98 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of other people around, and 99 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 7: you got plants. 100 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: of it all exactly. 102 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like we're going to a butterfly farm or something. 103 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: This is your first date that you've been on since 104 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How 105 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: did it go. 106 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 7: Well. I mean I was pleasantly surprised he was dressed 107 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 7: a bit more casually than I was. But we we 108 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 7: strolled around and we discussed flowers, and I gave him 109 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 7: some facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned 110 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 7: over the years, you know, just conversation starters, hopefully. 111 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 5: You know. 112 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: Do you think that you were yourself on the date? 113 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 5: Yeah? 114 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 7: I do. I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was 115 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 7: like super nervous at first, but I calmed down as 116 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 7: soon as he like, you know, I just got a 117 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 7: good vibe from him, and you're. 118 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: In like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with. 119 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 5: Just right, That's awesome. 120 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 7: Didn't just talk about orchids, well, no, I mean there 121 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 7: was lots of other plants. We talked about a lot 122 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 7: of that, and I mean there was this one really 123 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 7: embarrassing moment. He knocked over a decorative like water can thing. 124 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 7: Oh it broke, and I was like in Employees were like, oh, 125 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 7: I was like, oh my gosh. So I just made 126 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 7: a joke that he was like dangerous to plants, and 127 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 7: I'm like hoping he didn't get offended. 128 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure. 129 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: So that's the one thing you found that went wrong 130 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: with your date is that you may have offended him 131 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: with your plant joke. 132 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm scared that I offended him, but he seemed okay. 133 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 7: We sat down and we got tea from the little 134 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: stand and the date ended really, really well, I thought. 135 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 7: I mean, he walked me to my car, gave me 136 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 7: a hug. I told him, I had a great time. 137 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: This is really wholesome. 138 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show. 139 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: I know. 140 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 7: I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too 141 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 7: good to be true, but I mean, we had a 142 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 7: nice time, and I told him, I said, look, I 143 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 7: would love to see you again and just kind of 144 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 7: do something similar or maybe go out to eat or 145 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 7: something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and 146 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 7: I'm just kind of upset right now. 147 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 6: May have been out of the dating game for a while, 148 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 6: but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on 149 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 6: the apps and when things go wrong, you come right 150 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 6: to us. That's what everybody does, and it's dating nowadays. 151 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 5: Good job, Thank you. 152 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 7: I'm just like I said, I'm learning to get back 153 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 7: out there, and I mean it works a scenario if 154 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 7: if I did screw up, I did do something wrong 155 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 7: because I'm so new to the dating you know game 156 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: again that maybe, you know, if I made a mistake, 157 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 7: I can learn from it. It could be a learning moment. 158 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 7: I can move on and improve it. 159 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude. 160 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just 161 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 5: like your app says, there are plenty of fish out 162 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with. 163 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: Right, right, Okay. 164 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: So how long has it been since your botanical garden 165 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 5: date happened. 166 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 7: It's been like two weeks. 167 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, that's a long time in the modern dating 168 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: world or. 169 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Of the experience, you need to get ghosted a lot. Yes, yes, yeah, exactly. 170 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're gonna 171 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: get him on the line for answers in your second 172 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: date update. Right after this second date update if you're 173 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: just joining us for the second date, We've been talking 174 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 5: to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage, recently hopped 175 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: back into the dating world. Yeah, even though she was nervous, 176 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: she went full out. Ye did all the stereotypical hot 177 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: date things. Botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, even edgy 178 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: plant humor. 179 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 180 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: Intense, to say the least. But two weeks later she's 181 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: getting her very first taste of ghosting. Isn't sure? Why? 182 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: Now? 183 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 5: Before we call Keith here, I do want to ask you, Vanessa, 184 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: since you said you were the one who suggested the 185 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: botanical gardens, you think it's possible that Keith maybe wasn't 186 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: as into plant dates as you were. 187 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: She thought that he was just because of his profile picks. 188 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture. 189 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: Sure, you know, did you pick up a vibe like 190 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: that at all? 191 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean that's a possibility. 192 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 6: Wait, did you know most guys are, but not everyone's 193 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 6: a flower guy. 194 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he could see you as a botanical garden lady, 195 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: where he's more of a beer garden type of dude. Yeah, 196 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 5: maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between to 197 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: send you on your next date. Let's reach out. We're 198 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 5: going to dial his number right now and hopefully he 199 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: picks up. 200 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, okay, don't let this ruin the 201 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: rest of your dating experience. 202 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten. 203 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: Oh I thought you thought you mean us? No will, 204 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 5: We're gonna try our best here. I'm calling him right now. 205 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: Hello. 206 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 5: Hey, we're looking to speak with Keith. 207 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: This is he who's calling. 208 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: Hey man. This is a radio show called Brook and 209 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the Morning. 210 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 6: Hello. 211 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, good morning. 212 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 5: Hi. We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called 213 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: a second date update. I don't know if you know 214 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: about that, but it's where if one of our listeners 215 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 5: goes out with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a 216 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 5: call back, they can email us to reach out to 217 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: them and try and figure out if there's a reason 218 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: for that. 219 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 7: Oh my god, come on. 220 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun. I mean, who'd ever think that 221 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: you'd be called for a reason like this. 222 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: I don't even want to ask who's the person? 223 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: You don't want to ask? Curious? 224 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's 225 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: a good thing that they felt so strongly about you 226 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: they reached out to us for help. But in this case, 227 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 5: it's a woman named Vanessa. 228 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: Mmm okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want to add 229 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: what no. 230 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Why oh botanical garden Vanessa? 231 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? 232 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god. 233 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 5: Why did you say? I don't want us to ask. 234 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: Listen, I don't know what she told you, but that woman, 235 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: she's a freak. 236 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: What talking about the same, But what's the ones you 237 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: least expect? 238 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 5: I can't You're not wrong a freak cow. 239 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: I don't want to speak bad on anybody. But first 240 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: and foremost, we met up woman's at Plenty of Fish, 241 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: and he was deliberately catfishing me with these these pictures 242 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: from like ten to fifteen years ago. 243 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 6: But that's an accident, I understand. 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: I always think about that when you get back into 245 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: dating after that long. How do you have good photos 246 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: for an hour? 247 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Because if you were married, there's no way a husband 248 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: was taking good nuers of you. 249 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 6: I'm sorry doing bill on the couch? 250 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 5: Do you know all of this? Keith about Vanessa that 251 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: it's her first time at least in a long time 252 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: on the dating app? 253 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married 254 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: for a good little while, but it was obviously a 255 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: longer while than I thought. 256 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: What wait, are you saying that she was a lot 257 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: older than you expected? 258 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: The pictures made me think we were around the same age. 259 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: But honestly, it's that woman could be my mother at 260 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: this point, Oh. 261 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: Black and white, because it's normally a sign. 262 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: Okay, And what part of that turns you off? 263 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys. 264 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: He's joking. 265 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when you expect 266 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: one thing and you get something else when you started dating, right, So, 267 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: right at the beginning, you were turned off. 268 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: I was shocked. But I'm just like, listen, I'm already 269 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 4: out here. Might as well just go through with it, okay. 270 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: And we ended up going to this botanical garden, right 271 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 5: we heard that that was actually her idea. But I'm 272 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: more curious about why you said she's a freak. Well 273 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: how did that come up? 274 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But 275 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: is that what you meant? 276 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 6: Could be multiple meetings here? 277 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: No, we're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive, 278 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: like she's asking me what kind of pictures do I 279 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: want from her? And she keeps going on about it, 280 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's okay, I don't need anything. 281 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: What Oh she wanted a hot picture? 282 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 5: Oh? But she's asking what ones that she can send. 283 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 4: To you apparently, but oh, I don't know if there's 284 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: gonna be fifteen years old too, or what. 285 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like. 286 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: It does take worse. 287 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's like, do you want one side or do 288 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: you want both of them? 289 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: It's an awkward it's an awkward assumption that anyone wants 290 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in 291 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: the daytime, totally sober. 292 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And I told her I don't need any 293 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like, oh, 294 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: you want the real thing. 295 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, Okay. She was married for a long time. 296 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: Maybe she's like living. 297 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 6: Out what she didn't get to do before. 298 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Or maybe she thinks that this is how did works now, 299 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, just. 300 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: Trying it out. 301 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: It's one thing to be trying it out. But she 302 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: literally suggested. They had this little plant shop in the garden, 303 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: and she suggested we go behind it and do things. 304 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 5: Whoa Vanessa dude. 305 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 6: I would have been mortified. 306 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 5: I did not get that vibe from her when we 307 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: were talking to her before. 308 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: How did you even respond? 309 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: I had no time to respond. She was like, there's 310 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: nobody in the women's restroom. 311 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 5: And that was all a turn off to you. 312 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was that and then having to sit 313 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: down and drink tea casually after that, Oh oh. 314 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 6: Wow, after you, like Loki rejected her. 315 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: Make awkward eye contact the entire time. 316 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, the goodness is you won't have to worry 317 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 5: about awkward eye contact in this situation because she is 318 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 5: on the line so you can't see her, but she 319 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: does want to talk to you. 320 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, she literally heard all of that. 321 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she needed to think. So you're there. 322 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm here. I mean like that. That's just 323 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 7: what men want, right, and that's just how I am. 324 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 7: I'm very active and like you know, I have a 325 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 7: very high drive. 326 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay, I. 327 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 7: Didn't know I was dating a snowflake me. 328 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Whoa? 329 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 7: If you're not going to be, you know, a man, 330 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 7: then I'm gonna have this initiative. 331 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: She's calling you out, dude, What do you have to 332 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: say to that? 333 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: WHOA? Do you think taking initiative is going behind a 334 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: plant shop? Does you have to like that? 335 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 7: That's too much? 336 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: It was you ain't nobody was there. 337 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: It's the first day you. 338 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 7: Don't Oh my god, many days man, these days? 339 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: Who I don't if it was a Netflix unchild you 340 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked. It's the gu really threw it off. 341 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second. 342 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to 343 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: come over. She's telling me that she has these adult 344 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: movies on Blu Ray. 345 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm still put in an adult movie, scratched. 346 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Let me fix this. 347 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: Yeah you have those, well those were my husbands I 348 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 7: got them in the divorce. 349 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: Navigate. It's nice of you to offer to share that 350 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 5: with your. 351 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Date, but your date isn't responding to any of your 352 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: text messages, and you keep going, well. 353 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 7: He never said no, Yeah, but he didn't say yes. 354 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: You know, well, this is a good chance for him 355 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: to say yes, because we're going to offer to send 356 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 5: you two out on another date. And Keith, if you're 357 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 5: if you're open to trying this and giving Vanessa another chance, 358 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: will pay for it. 359 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around. 360 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: She says herself that she's very forward, she's open. She's 361 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: just putting herself out there only because she felt such 362 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: a good connection with you. I'm assuming so. 363 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: Sounded like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't 364 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: get over it was it was I was never looking 365 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: at candle guard. She didn't want it to be sweetened? 366 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Is it? 367 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit 368 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: better because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say 369 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 5: yes to another date with her, absolutely not. 370 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 7: Here's just such a whim. 371 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, really, I think that you like going forward 372 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little 373 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: more upfront about what you're looking. 374 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: Full up in frontal is what people are looking for. 375 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like you're game to do that, anyone. 376 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 7: So my grandkids told me about tender. 377 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: Rookie Jeffrey in the morning. I need to hear from 378 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: our listeners text in at seventy eight five nine two 379 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 5: if you've ever successfully fooled around in a botanical garden. 380 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: The more I say it, the hotter it sounds. 381 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 6: Anyone ever, I. 382 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: Mean, I don't think you'd get caught because nobody would 383 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: suspect it. Yeah, it's not like they're knocking on the 384 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: door of the bathroom. If you've been in there for 385 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: too long. 386 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: People kissing the handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their 387 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: first kiss ever? 388 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Yea, their grandparents, especially her? Yeah, how she comes off? 389 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah right, look at her We can even really. 390 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Go back to the fact that she basically catfished him. 391 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fishing. 392 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: She was a lot more seasoned than we gave her 393 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: credit for. 394 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: It's true. But my guess is that Brooke is thinking 395 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: the exact same thing that I am. Where have all 396 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 5: the loose men gone? 397 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 6: Where did they go? 398 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 5: They used to be roaming, all the guys keeping it 399 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 5: zipped up? 400 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: Nowadays, why do you men have self respect? 401 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 5: It's just a different day and age. Now people are 402 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops in broad daylight. 403 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I never thought would be here, Jeff. Yeah. 404 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: Anyway, listening to us on the podcast right now. Make 405 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: sure you hit that subscribe button. 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