WEBVTT - Merchandise 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.240 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:28.160 Done done, Yay. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.720 Another episode of That's Messed Up an sv podcast. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.480 I am Liza Traeger. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:38.000 And I'm Kara Klank. And you know how this podcast works, Guys. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.840 We talk about an episode of SVU, we talk about 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.640 the true crimas based on and then we usually interview 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.320 an actor from the show. And you know, we've not 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.600 been able to do that because of the strike. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:48.520 But the strike is over. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:54.160 It's been ratified with a depressingly low participation percentage, and 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:55.920 we are going. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.560 To be having guests in the new year. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.600 This is coming out the day after Christmas, our last 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.640 episode of twenty twenty three. What a year it's been. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.520 Thank you to everybody who came out and saw us live. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.960 We do have one more live show in the on 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:15.160 the schedule for January seventh in Seattle at the Wet 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.160 City Comedy Festival. It's at the Crocodile Slash. The Bell 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.280 what's it called, the I don't know. It's got like 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:23.760 two names, but the Crocodile Lounge. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.680 It's great. It's got like a great. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.720 Uh it's not even called the Crocodile Lounge. That's where 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.080 I did stand up in New York. It's just called 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.559 the Crocodile. Go to Thats Messed Up Live dot com. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.720 That's got the link for that. You can go see 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.640 Lisa there on the six doing stand up. There's a 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.479 lot of other awesome headliners, Patti Harrison, jol Kim Booster. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.080 Go check out that fest and come see us on 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.080 the seventh. I think our show's at like six thirty, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.800 and that'll be the last one we have until we start. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.640 Figuring out what we're doing for twenty twenty four. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.880 And as you're listening to this, I am in Mexico City, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.320 So I hope you think about me living my full 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.040 time fantasy. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.000 I'll think about you at the Casa Azul as Rose, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.400 he says, She goes, can we go to the Casa Azul, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:02.840 which is. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.040 What she calls Free to Callo's House? 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.040 Because if you don't know, every four and five year 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.119 old in the world like knows everything about Free to Callo. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.080 She's truly an icon among kindergarteners and Lisa Rosie was like, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.480 can we go to the Kasas? Like, oh, you know, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.400 Lisa's actually going there like a week. She was like, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.560 can we go too. I was like, I don't think 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.000 we can tag along on Lisa's vacation, but she'll send 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.720 us pictures. Well, if there's a gift shop, I'll definitely 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.480 see what little Blue House plea goodbye please? They I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.920 would love to. She is obsessed with Freda. I mean 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.679 we've been reading her Free to Calla books since she 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.960 was like eighteen months old, and she used to point 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.040 to a picture of Freda Callo in a suit and 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:40.840 be like, that's. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.680 Daddy, and we thought that was really funny. But she 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:45.680 loves Freda. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.959 They named their butterfly Frida, and their class they said 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.120 it free after it grew out of a Chrysalist. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.440 And everything in a cocoon. So big fans over here. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.880 But yeah, it'll be I will be driving back to 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.520 Connecticut from West Virginia, where by the way, I'm trying 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.079 to get my kids tickets to visit Santa at a 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.919 Bass Pro shop in West Virginia. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.720 And it's a hard ticket to get. How hard are 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:07.120 you trying? 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.120 So my mother in. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.560 Law's doing it but she was like, didn't seem like 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.120 there was much of a line, but might get more 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.079 crowded closer to Christmas than I go. I can't wait 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.080 to explain to my child how Santa definitely stops by 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.040 a bass pro shop to talk to kids every year. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.640 Well, listen, some kids want a fishing pole. You know 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.000 we're not all the same, true, true, Well, speaking of 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:35.120 fucking Christmas. So earlier this month, I'm driving back from 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:40.200 San Diego. Everything is great, having a nice drive, some 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.720 nice phone chats. All of a sudden, I can't exit 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.320 our exit, and then I'm stuck in this insane traffic. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.120 And then I finally get to where I need to go. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.800 Another street is closed, so I'm turning around with people, 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.440 and then of course I feel bad for the people 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.120 coming back in. I'm like, you're gonna get stuck at 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.280 the McDonald's, but I'm not helping you. And so then 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.880 I get back on the highway, go backwards. Exit another thing. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:10.600 There's streets closed, like truly miles of street closings. I 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.600 see fire trucks. I don't know what's going on. I 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.760 have my friends start checking the news. She's googling stuff. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.000 She's like there's a record event. I'm like, this isn't 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.520 a fucking record event. I'm like reckless, Like this isn't 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.080 fucking I don't. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:23.520 Know what this is. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.360 I call Kara and she goes, it's a fucking Christmas 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.360 parade and she was stuck in it too, but I 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:31.160 got stuck in it. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.000 I was driving, so I took Rosie to Lakhma, which 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.719 is a modern martn art museum in la and it 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.240 was so cute. I took her there and I go 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.760 I got to run run her home by like twelve thirty, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.000 twelve forty five because I got to get to therapy 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.200 by one twelve forty five. We're getting to our neighborhood. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.120 This parade started at one, which is what's crazy. Was 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.000 supposed to go one to two. You called me at 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.000 three and there was still bullshit going on three o'clock 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.520 like it was supposed to be. It was an hour 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.400 over by the time you hit it, and like I 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.440 but I was getting there right as everybody was taking 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.120 their seats to go watch it, and I just was 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.360 literally panicking. Like Rosie's never kind of seen me panic 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.120 like that, Like I just was, like truly, I was 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.240 in dead ends. I was by Casey. I was thinking, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.400 I was by your old house. Like I was just 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.760 like hitting all these dead ends. I was in a 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.880 McDonald's drive through. I was in the Taco Bell drive through. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.640 I was like trying to get through all these ways. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.120 There was no way for me to get across this 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.599 parade to get to my house. It took me forty 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.760 five minutes to get home from the exit of our exit, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.080 and I missed my therapy appointment. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.400 I just was like texting my therapists, going, ironically. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.560 This is where I need therapy the most, because I 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:33.800 am truly freaking out. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:34.840 I cannot get home. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.800 Jared kept going, just take a deep breath. Traffic sucks, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:38.720 I go. You don't understand. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.680 It's not traffic. It's literally I'm trapped. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.159 I am barricaded onto one side of Figueroa and I 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.440 cannot get to the other side. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.560 It was terrible. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.719 It was wild. One woman did yell at one of 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.920 the traffic cops. But it was truly like I got 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.960 off on forty third So from forty third Street to 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.960 sixtieth Street full blocked, blocked, I had to go all 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.279 the way around. I was. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:04.799 It was bonkers. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.159 And then everybody that was trying to avoid the parade 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.440 and get home was in the same line of traffic. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.000 Like that was crazy just getting once you figured it 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.360 out and got on to the other side. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.560 So I just was so I was like this, I'm glad. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.039 I wasn't well. Then I called our friend and I go, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.520 what is going on? She goes, maybe the President's there? 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.520 I go, shut the fuck up. The President did not 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.599 come to Highland Park randomly by the fucking food for less. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.919 You know what I mean? Which friends has said that? 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.160 Can you tell me, Julie, She goes, well, last time 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.880 I got stuck in stuff the President was visiting. I go, Yeah, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.440 in New York City, Okay, not in our like little 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.760 area on a random afternoon. No. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.280 I love that though. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.000 If Biden was just chilling at food for us one day, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:46.799 that would be cool. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.480 I also I would have gone to the parade. I 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.680 also wish that my Google Maps was better and told 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.800 me to go on the two like there would have 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:56.680 been other options. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.000 But I didn't know what was happening. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.640 Yeah, but you know what doesn't know parade. It knows 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.359 like accidents, but it can't figure out parades. Like I 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.240 kept telling me to go back to where I was like, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.400 I can't go their Google maps and I couldn't find 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:08.080 a traffic cop. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.720 You found one, right, That's how you eventually figured it out. Well, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.800 I haven't seeing empty vehicles, No, I saw a guy 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.200 and then I saw this woman scream at him, and it's. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.040 Like, what girl? 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.040 Relax? I was really kind. I go, can you just 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.960 please tell me how to get to my streets? I'm like, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.200 please get me home? And he helped, but my car 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:26.080 reeked of weed. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.200 Like I cannot I cannot believe. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.280 I was that desperate that I was like, listen, if 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.679 I get arrested, I get arrested. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.600 I gotta get home, I gotta get well. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.440 I have more embarrassing. No blame of a Christmas parade. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:39.480 This is all my fault. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:40.200 So I go. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.360 I drive to the comedy store, I would say, three 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.400 times a week, maybe more or less. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:46.320 For years. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.120 Now, I go there more than I go anywhere else, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:57.400 I would say. And I missed my exits twice, truly, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.360 driving on the wrong highway for miles because I was 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.720 listening to Taylor Swift. I twice. This has happened two 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.240 days in a row, where all of a sudden I'm like, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.840 why would I get on the ten? And then I 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.800 was like, oh my god, I missed the. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:10.280 One on one. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.360 You were like about you hit the ocean and you 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.880 were like fuck, like wait, where were you listening to 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.280 Taylor just her music? You just got someone to the music? 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.640 Oh my yes, I'm just that I've It's truly broken 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.200 my brain in a way I can't I can't understand. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.800 And then yesterday I'm driving to the store and then 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.960 it keeps telling me to get off on these downtown 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.080 and I hate driving downtown. I feel like it's like 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.080 truly Gotham, You're underground, Like I really hate driving downtown, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.000 and it kept me like get off on the third street. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.560 Get I'm like, I'm not fucking going downtown. And then 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.040 I'm like, wait, why am I here? And then I 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.400 realized I missed the ten, and then I had to 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.679 go on like Martin Luther King draw so many miles, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.440 go all the way around it was and then I 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.360 made it in time, but barely, and it was like 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.000 I was I just it was just because I was 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.079 listening to Taylor. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.600 I like, it's really taken over. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.000 But I was talking so all of a lot of 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.200 you on the road have made us incredible sview that's 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.080 messed up friendship bracelets and so we have like bags 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.360 of them and I brought some yesterday to the comedy 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.880 store to give to some of of our SVU friends 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:17.640 and it was really exciting. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:18.480 I felt really cool. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.400 And one of our friends, I go, I just can't 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.360 get enough of her, and he goes, yeah, she's touched. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.400 By God, and I go, yeah, you're right, that is 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:27.960 what it is. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.560 It's like, it's really it's too much. And then I 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.840 woke up. But now everyone knows it's really sweet. I 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.520 always get Simpson stuff, people send me Miley things, sex 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.440 SVU stuff, and now I woke up to a text 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.400 about articles that are happening different tailor things, and like 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.000 waking up to pictures, You're just people. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.520 Putting more intense interests to your list, but nothing ever 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.559 falls off. Everything stays on the list. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.160 Well, I'm hoping this tapers off a little, so I'm 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.160 not missing exits to my job, you know what I mean, Like, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.680 I just hope it's but I had like tasks to 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.480 do today, but instead I read this time article about 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.400 Taylor Swift was the most I've read about anything outside 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:08.800 of the research for this podcast. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.080 It was it was like an eight to ten page article. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.320 I was for those long ones that take like hours. Yeah, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.319 oh my god. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.240 But the photos are good. Did I try to buy 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.080 a print? I did? Okay, anyways, but then I got 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.959 to talk to a friend for a really long time 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.000 and made people happy. Steph tool of did take the 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.679 best bracelet? Which one? And I let her have it 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.360 because that's the spirit of the bracelets. I gave her 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.600 Stabler's jean jacket. Oh wait, do you have mommy's juice 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.960 in that? Oh yeah, because yeah, yeah, no I would. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.400 It's funny because people go, what is that? And then 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.600 I get to be like, well, there's this episode where 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.040 a guy has to butt chug for his mom a 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:57.040 booze in her ass her throat. Yeah, people just stare, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.280 They're like, excuse me. But she's like, why aren't there 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.320 Stabler ones? And you know, because a lot are inside 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.400 jokes for us, and I'm right now, I'm holding Fishing 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:14.320 Expedition post mortem and Murshka Hargate, but I switched them out. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.120 But she goes, isn't there a Stabler one? And she goes, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.400 oh my god, Stabler's jean jacket and she put it 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.160 on her key ring and I texted her just so 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.760 she knew. I go, just so you know you did 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.480 get one of the best ones. And she goes, thank you. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.040 I love it so much, it'll never leave my heart. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.160 I love his denim. And I go, Okay, the right 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:31.959 person got it. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.400 Yeah, she's Canadian stabler, always in a Canadian tuxedo. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.920 It's like, perfect, You're totally right. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.240 Oh. 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.600 I had a friend call me that said, on Hulu 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.320 there's a series called Homicide for the Holidays and it's 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.040 like holiday based murders, and have have we gone too 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.520 far as a true crime community? 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.360 Like well, it's like everybody's just trying to find different 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.160 angles in but I don't know, it's like we can't 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.600 do like an Arbor day murder marathon, all crimes involving 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.080 trees and wood, like. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.480 Through the snow okay, and on a snow filled lake 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.320 we found but it's. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.920 A little Right after the family got together, she was 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.080 never seen again. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.600 Like, I don't know, it's too much. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.840 I will say, though, you know, famously my making a murderer. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.000 My family watched it through a full on a full. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.680 Christmas holiday together, watched the entire thing, and Jared was horrified. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.679 So I love twice holidays. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.720 I've watched it twice, but not at holiday holidays. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.360 Was the first time. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.319 What is his family watch on Christmas? Like a Christmas 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.600 Jared's family, there's not like a thing. They'll watch anything 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.720 with us. I mean they'll they like, but we wouldn't 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:40.400 probably do that. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:40.960 But they like. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.440 They like a lot of like upstairs downstairs BBC Downtown 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.760 Abbey type shit, like they should get into below deck. Yeah, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.160 they if they like upstairs it is modern. That is 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.800 modern Downtown Abbey. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.000 And I'm sure your parents are gonna love Captain Sands 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:58.440 are there. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:12:59.800 I bet they'll love Captain Sandy. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.320 You know, I felt like your parents would like Captain Sandy, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.079 and I feel like his. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.679 Parents would love Captain Lee. Yeah. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.880 Yeah, not that your parents would dislike Captain Lee, but 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.240 I think they would have something. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.679 Going for Sandy in a way. Well, they're all Republicans. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:13.839 I'm sure that is the way. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.920 Oh my god, my parents finally moved out of my 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:18.680 childhood home. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.120 Oh my god, they're gone. It's out. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.760 We're done. We're not we don't, I don't. I can't 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:24.720 go back to my old house. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:25.200 Anymore. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.000 Did was there a lot of memories there? 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:29.160 Like did they live there? 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.679 Boxes you had to go through or were all your 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.520 possessions gone? 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.640 And it's just memories. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.000 No, It's like, well I lived there for thirty five years, right, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.280 but like my parents moved into it thirty five years ago. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.840 I didn't win it for thirty five years, but my 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.440 parents lived in it for thirty five years. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.080 And we like every year. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.040 My mom was so big on like can you just 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.720 take these things out of the house that are yours? 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.560 So like, I've been slowly moving things that Like I 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.480 just took my wedding dress out of the house like 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.880 one trip ago when I was in Connecticut. So like 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:58.959 I'm I've been getting stuff out, so I don't really 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.160 think there's anything left. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.880 I mean there might be. Like I asked my mom to. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.720 Put a side a box of VHS tapes because I 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.840 want to get them digitized to DVD of like family 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:10.720 videos and stuff. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.480 But I think, like, yeah, well, so I use this 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:14.640 service to do that. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.000 I don't know if you remember a couple of years 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.800 ago where I got all my old family video It 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:18.880 was actually pre pandemic. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.240 For that show, I was doing the vacation. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.160 Oh right, But and I had a Google Drive folder 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.320 of them all and then I wanted to find one 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.520 from like a specific video. I'm locked out of it. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.640 I didn't doubt, and like I downloaded them on my 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.600 computer that had water damage, right, And so I've been 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.040 emailing with the company and I basically had to pay 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.520 like eighty something dollars to reopen the thing. I'll get 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.200 it in three weeks, then I can download keep it permanently, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.520 and then with a subscription, I can always keep it whatever. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.080 But it was they like take it away from you, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.280 and I didn't know, So that's crazy. So the DVD 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.560 is probably better than what I did, which was I 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.280 just thought it would always stay my Google Drive. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.480 And it is weird that this company and he just 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.000 has my. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.600 Home videos on lock yeah, because like I literally just 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.240 asked a photographer, like I was like, could I get 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.680 some prints of like Rosie's gallery from last year? Like 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.200 I know you already took the gallery down, and she goes, yeah, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:15.920 I'll just unlock it. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.840 She just unlocked it. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.160 Like it's like they could have just unlocked it for you, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.480 Like they're charging you to be dicks. Yeah, fucking because 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.600 they know it's your family memories, but I'm excited. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:25.840 I want to get those chart change. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.440 But we were all there at my old house together 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.960 in August, so we did all get together and have 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.720 like a little family party. So I think that was 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.360 like a nice way. But I kind of thought i'd 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.080 have like one more chance to sort of go and 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.960 I don't. But my parents moved into this new place 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.320 and I can't wait to see it. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.200 My sister said, it's nice, and is it close. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.280 It's close to Yeah, it's it's probably twenty minutes from 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.240 my parents' old house. I'm closer to my brother where it's, 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.040 which is usually where I stay when I go back now, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.800 so it'll be pretty close. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.680 Yeah, that's nice. Yes, so it'll be good. My parents 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.840 are still scurrying up and down to it's of stairs 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.680 all the time, NonStop, ranging up, and my mom like 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.560 insisted on moving to a place where it had like 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.440 a first floor master bedroom. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.720 A first floor I mean a no getting into a tub, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.960 like a walk in shower, like they're trying to minimize accidents, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.360 because you know, the day they had to move out 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.440 of the house, like the final day, final final day, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.400 my dad decided, oh wait, we haven't taken anything out 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.480 of the attic yet. They just never went up there. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.960 There was like hockey sticks and sleds from when we 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.600 were kids up in the fucking attic that they have 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.920 to get rid of. My dad stepped through the attic 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.640 floor through the ceiling the day they had to move out. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.680 Oh my god. So like he didn't like get hurt. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.520 But that's like they had to get a contractor in 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.280 there to like fix it before the new people moved 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:42.000 in the next day. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.320 Damn, it's fucking nuts, Like my mom goes. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.160 My mom was like, I mean, I guess shit happens, 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.960 and I was like, yeah, with you guys, so much 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:51.560 shit happened. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.800 I wonder if basement and attics are regional or like 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.920 something like that, because we most of my friends had basements. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.880 We were in basements. I didn't know of addicts. Addicts 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:03.640 were just on TV. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.000 For me. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.200 Yeah, we have an attic, but it's like you had 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.000 to like pull a ladder down the way you do. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.000 It, well, that's a savation. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.840 Yeah, And so we never went up there, like I 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.160 think in my life I've been up there twice. Maybe, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.159 Like I don't know, my parents would just like go 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.320 up there and like put boxes and come back down 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.399 like I don't even think they walked like it was 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:22.600 just like a place to you know. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.800 Obviously it doesn't have a secure flooring. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.120 But we had a storage space off of my childhood 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.199 bedroom that was like that was what we kind of 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.679 used as an attic. It was what we called the 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.960 storage space, but it was you could put all the 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.679 shit in there. And that's where I hid my phone 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.720 when I bought a phone on my own and I 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.200 plugged it into a jack so I could have a 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.080 phone in my own room because my parents said I couldn't. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.199 And I would like make little phone calls and then 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.040 hide my phone in the storage space. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.159 And it never rang. They couldn't really tell when it 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:48.560 was ringing. 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.159 They weren't like in my room with me, you know, 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:51.919 like it rang like the rest of the house. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.119 But they couldn't really tell. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.720 Was it a clear phone with where you could see 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:56.480 all the wiring. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.040 I wish I wanted that so badly. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.000 That was my absolute jam, But no, it was like 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.640 some phone I won through selling wrapping paper for my school, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.240 Like I would sell that was like our thing that 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.879 we did for fundraising or whatever. Was like sell wrapping 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.320 paper and you would win prizes, and I won. I 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:15.879 was able to choose my prize, and I chose this 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.600 like little shitty phone. Like I don't even think it 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:18.159 had a cradle. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.040 I think it was just like a headset piece that 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.520 you went like this and you can dial on it 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.320 like it was. It was crazy. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.399 But I are a poster child of you should allow 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.240 your kids to do things or they will learn how 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.240 to sneak and lie like no other. Absolutely, that's just 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.440 no trust, I know. But like you got away with everything, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.400 might as well just be like, yeah, I have a phone. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.440 I just you know, you know, such a bad parent. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.720 Not that your parents are bad, it's a bad that's 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:48.119 the generation. Yeah that everyone was silly. Yeah, it was 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:52.280 just you're in trouble and then your kids are sneaking 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.120 out windows. Yeah, Like it's just I don't know why 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:57.959 they thought it was a good idea to be so 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.960 strict when everyone was climbing. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.920 I know, I know. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.080 It's definitely made me think about how I'm going to 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.920 do things differently. For sure, if Rosie wants a phone 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.920 in her room, whatever, but by the way, a phone 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:11.640 in your room's not going to exist when Rosi's older, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.560 because they're all just gonna have cell phones. But when 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.200 do I give her that? That's the big question. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.160 I think you can get her a jitterbug right yeah, yeah, 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.320 or one without data where she would need Wi Fi 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:24.600 to be. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.879 There's little like watches too that can get texts and 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.159 make calls, and or like little watches for kids. I 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.959 might do that too, Yeah, and throw a what are 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.480 those trackers in the backpack? 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:35.000 Yes? 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.520 For you know, a tile? 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.800 I heard you could put the tiles in the shoes 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.560 because the bags can be missing, but you can, like 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.480 under the sole or something. You can put them in 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.480 the shoe or even in the Yeah, because you know 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.600 what I've been watching on TikTok. Well, now I don't 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.400 have TikTok anymore on my phone, hopefully I've not. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:55.040 Put it back on. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.400 But I was listening to nine to one one calls 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:03.200 where people can't be free to talk, like you know, 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:07.240 it's them ordering a pizza or something like that and 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.280 the other and then the operator is just like, tell 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.919 me if you're in trouble and can't talk, and then 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.080 it's yes, and then it's like how they get the 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:14.680 cops there? 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.480 While Wow, I think about that, like all the time. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.119 I always think about how I'll like make a phone 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.000 like call my oneman really quickly and then hide my 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:29.040 phone and be like I'm just here at my adrene 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.840 like say your address. I don't know, like I think 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.199 about that. That's like a like probably a rescue nine 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.359 one one thing or something I picked up as a child. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.119 Yeah, it's and then it's like does the person armed, 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.879 and it's say pepperoni, and then you like hear a 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:44.280 man yelling like I said that. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.280 You know, it's it's pretty wild, but. 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.240 You know, it's just hard to think because like most 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.159 of humanity is bad at what they do. Not really 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.000 that's not true, but a lot of people are bad 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.400 at their jobs. And yeah, we see that all the time. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.200 And it's just so scary if you call the wrong 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.560 nine one one operator, yeah, nobody to watch the hang up. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.960 Yeah yeah, but it is. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.480 It's so scary to think what if you got one 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.920 that was like shift over wrong number. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.520 Yeah, you know, Well, we have to get the episode started, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.720 but I also I wanted to really quickly on the 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.560 tip of tailor TikTok, wrapping up everything we've talked about today. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:25.640 Thank you guys, so much. 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.760 For all watching and sharing our little TikTok video we 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.080 made of the We're best Friends, We're SVU. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:31.960 Fans video that we made. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.280 We had such a fun time making that because we 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:35.960 knew that, like only SVU people. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.240 Would like get what we were talking about. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.280 So, and thank you all for spamming the comments of 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.240 Travis and Jason's podcast We Are you know, hoping to 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.720 get a call that they want to be on or whatever. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.720 So I'm listening to today's episode. I'm a weekly listener 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.960 to the New Heights podcast now and there they brought 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.680 up two bears, one cave. They brought up fucking Sigora 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.399 and Bert and those boys have enough. We yeah, but 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.720 I'm talking our time we get brought up. So I'm 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.560 about to Textagore and be like, don't you fucking dare. Yeah, 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.000 I was gonna say, oh, and if there are TikTok trends. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.520 That's what I was gonna say that you want us. 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.879 To do, send them to us because we'd love to 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:13.879 make more videos. 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.480 But we like, we're only two elder millennials. We're just 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.240 two elder mills. And so, like Lisa's took it off 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:21.560 her phone and I'm not on it that much. So 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.800 if you see like a trend that seems like it 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:25.719 would be fun for like the SVU or for us 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.760 or whatever, send it to us, DM it to us, 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.119 to our Instagram or whatever and let us know so 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.159 be cause like we'd love to make more stuff like 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.760 that and it's fun and yeah, but let's get started. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.320 Hopefully you had a great time with Santa. Let's say 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.840 Boxing Day. I don't know, is the twenty sixth Boxing Day? 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.159 Let me see, I don't even know what it is. 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:47.000 Mean. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.360 Yeah, it's Tuesday, December twenty sixth, So Happy Boxing Day 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.040 to all Canada. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.080 So what is Canada? Boxing Day? 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.440 The day after Christmas is the feast of Saint Stephen, 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.000 the first Christian murder. It's also known as Boxing Day, 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.240 a secular holiday celebrated in parts of. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:03.719 The Commonwealth, including Canada. 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:09.480 So, okay, happy day to all who celebrate a knockout 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.040 punch of a day for you, here's a Boxing Day 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.520 treat this episode. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.719 So we're doing merchandise today and that's season twelve, episode four. 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.320 You obviously know it's not a good type of merchandise, 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:28.280 but let's. 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:28.760 Jump in here. 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.199 It's not about it's not about Benson knowing all the 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:32.240 high end brands. 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.080 No, No, this one's sad. 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:35.760 Okay. 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.240 So we start off and there's a Dakota Fanning looking 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.360 girl running very very fast. She's breathing hard, she's scared. 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.880 She's running through a farmer's market. She's in flannel, she's 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.760 knocking down people. It's very action movie. Produce is flying, 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.760 you know, it could be a comedy. But she looks panicked. 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.080 Someone's yelling at her, but she's clearly in distress, and 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.480 I don't understand why no one helps her. Like every 0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:01.480 adult at the farmer's market's like hey, and it's like, yeah, 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.200 she's clearly rooking this. 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.679 Jam, you dumbass, Like it's like, yeah, she looks terrified. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.120 I just can't believe not one adult went, what's wrong? 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.840 How can I help you? You know, like, not fucking one. 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.400 But uh oh, she gets hit by a car and 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.040 now she's dead in the street. So I guess maybe 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.920 they're thinking twice about how they acted. So obviously Melinda 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.400 is now on the case. She's standing over the body 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.239 and I paused it in that moment to type, and 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.000 the light is hitting her gorgeous like she is glowing 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.160 in these blue scrubs. 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:36.879 It is Golden hour. 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.320 So Melinda is glowing, but I am haunted by like 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.960 this girl. When she landed the foliard, the noise of 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.480 her crunching on the cement was not good for me. 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.399 Very authentic noise is good of a body hitting cement. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.720 So something is jacked up with a socket, So that's 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.520 not good. So the zygomatic socket is busted. The scapula 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.040 radius alna in the eye are all fucked. But Benson 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.119 and Stable are like, okay, sure, but why are we 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.439 called for a traffic fatality? And Melinda has a killer 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.439 line because I know how to do my job. 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.560 Yeah, you do, bitch, and like it's season twelve, why 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.000 are you testing Melinda? 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.520 Yea, why are you testing Melinda? 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.080 It's so annoying and her full curls are on command today, 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.199 And so Melinda gets the sad news. There's ligature and 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.440 friction marks on the wrists and ankles. She is abused 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.000 and she was starved to death. And then this quote 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.199 it's sad, but it's the wording is funny to me. 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:40.000 Her heart is soft and floppy Floppy is an easter bunny, 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:41.080 not for a heart. 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:42.880 Get a posaurus, you know what I mean. 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.840 But it's weird, Like floppiness is always in medical jargon. 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.280 There's a thing called like floppy baby, Like when they're 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.240 first born, if they're floppy. 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:51.520 That's like bad. 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.720 You have to like figure out what's going on. Like 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.800 they're supposed to be more like rigid, intensed up because 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.600 they just got pulled out of a body, you know, 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.200 and like if they're floppy, it's like a bad sign. 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.800 I think it's called like floppy baby syndrome or something 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:05.240 like that. 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:06.760 But aren't they all floppy? 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.880 Like how do you know what when the baby's floppy 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:10.520 versus a regular baby? 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:15.960 I think, well, here, let me see what causes floppy 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:20.679 baby syndrome, neuro muscular disorder, central nervousism. 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:21.239 I don't know. 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.440 I think it's just like when they come out, they're 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.400 usually tensing up their little arms and legs and they're screaming, 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.480 you know. And then so like when they come out, 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.239 they're like rigid with their legs and arms, kind of 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:37.240 like tether pissing, and so floppy is not not the best. Yeah, 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.359 But anyway, it is a funny. It is a funny 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:40.800 like word in general. 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:45.199 It just sounds more like whimsical and silly than likely mabbs. 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.560 Yeah. 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.040 So there's also lumin in her stomach and nothing in 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.040 the small intestines, and her body was breaking down muscle 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.719 for fuel. Her liver was like fucked and greasy. This 0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.920 is sad, like this girl was starved to death. And 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.359 but behind Melinda's a skeleton. You'd find it a school 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.400 or a party city. So it is funny. She's being 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.080 really serious, but then there's like just a floppy skeleton 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.240 in the back, and it's like, I think Melinda should 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.320 know what a skelt, like, what bones are which bones? 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.399 You know what I mean, I've seen I've seen that before. 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.639 The only reason I think it could be there is 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.919 so she can explain it to detectives and be like, 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.920 see where the scapula hits or whatever, because she does 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:26.520 do that a lot. 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.399 She does a lot of teaching to them. But it 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.359 is funny. I think I saw that when they had 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.720 that little morg party where she was. 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.720 Trying to fuck I see. Yeah, I think I saw 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.879 that skeleton, just like chilling with a Santa hat on. 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:41.120 Yeah, Melinda's in an open marriage so anyway, so Stabler 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.879 asked a good question. How was she even managed to run? 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.000 And Melinda explains it was adrenaline. She's between twelve and fifteen, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.439 and she gave birth within the last year because her 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.040 pelvic cradle is spreading. 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.480 Uh oh. And then the car didn't even kill her. 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.000 The you know, the cab rushed the process, but she 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.080 would have died in soon, you know. So Melinda is 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.879 ruling it a homicide. We go to the credits, We 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.280 come back to a flooding. In the squad room, they're 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.720 mopping water. There's trash bags everywhere. The pipes are old 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.880 and the city will not get them new pipes. 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.840 So then Craigan's like, I hear you're. 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.960 Questioning Melinda's ruling, and she's pissed and why are you 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.560 challenging the Emmy And they're like, we just don't think 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.639 it's possible to build a case because it didn't actually 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.840 kill the Jane Doe like the cab did, so the 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.840 best we could do is attempted murder. So okay, then 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.320 fucking do it, you know what I mean? So anyway, 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.919 so Finn has footage up on the flat screen and 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.400 Craigan goes, well, let's find the bastard who starved her 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.720 and not be worrying about court and what to charge 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.760 and the cases, like, let's find who starved her. So 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.560 we're watching footage of her running and Benson's like, whoever 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.000 she's running from? She looks fucking terrified. And then they 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.560 noticed there's a kid running behind her that also looks 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.680 like he's trying to get away, so there's two of them. 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.760 He got lost in the crowd, and so she fell 0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.280 into lot fifty on the footage, and that's they're going 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.240 to go to the market and talk to the lady, 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.560 and the lady's pissed. 0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:04.320 She's a dumb bitch. 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.040 It's like, the girl is dead, but sure your jars 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:11.320 of blueberry compo are really a priority here. I kept 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.400 thinking that they were going to like break the news 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.760 to her, like the girl is dead, but it does 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.840 then they don't, so I'm like, oh, so do you 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:18.200 just know? 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.640 And you still wanted to come back from the dead 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.080 and pay for the blueberry compoe. 0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.120 She wanted the cops bay, she wanted the city to 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.480 pay for her compo, Like she doesn't care a child's dead. 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.200 She's not questioning herself being like, fuck, should I have 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.800 done more to help you know, like that's not really happening. 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.360 So a man behind her is like, get over it 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.320 to the you know, to the wife, I think it's 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.800 a husband. It's a husband energy for sure, and so 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.400 this isn't Lussia's grape, you know, I don't think he's 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.960 like an evil boss. So she's losing it. She's like, 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.760 but she ruined our display, Bob, And the husband's like, 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.440 we don't want to get the girl in trouble. There 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.520 are more important things than your stupid jam. This Karen 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.080 is so annoying, and the Karen is like, speak for yourself. 0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.360 Those kids are a menace. 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.560 Like those kids, and it's the mission Farms hires, so 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.080 there's usually more of them. And it's a program that 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.000 gives at risk kids day jobs, you know, instead of 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.719 therapy activities, love, Let's get them a job, you know, 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.880 instead of taking them to the aquarium, let's get him 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.160 a job in the fields. 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:16.880 What the fuck? 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.360 So the husband identifies that that girl running her name 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.200 is Carly, and then the wife is like, oh, he's 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.080 such a pushover. He was always giving them samples and 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.720 that girl scarfed up my food. And it's like, are 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.200 you pissed that she's hungry and eating it too fast. 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:34.760 You're mad she destroyed it. 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.840 Now you're mad she's scarfing it down, Like, I just 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.360 don't understand the mind frame. But there are people that 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.680 don't believe in free school lunch and they believe kids 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.520 should have to be janitors to get food. 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:45.520 Like there are. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.400 Bad people, it's just not the vibe of somebody who 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.360 sells blueberry compote at a farmer's market. That's not who 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.320 I think is gonna be horrible to children, Like. 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.160 But this bitch sucks. She goes and then they had 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.600 the nerve to puke it all up. It's like, why 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:02.400 would you not help her? Benson and Sailor hate her 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.640 like we do. And we find out the kids are 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.920 only there on the weekends and every they're like, how 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.200 did no one notice that these children were starved? So 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.560 they go to speak to the farmer's market management to 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.040 find out where the farm is and they say it's 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.800 in Long Island, Suffolk County. So Finn is like, you 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.680 didn't have an issue with them only using children as labor, 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.960 and Finn is not into this. Finn has a lot 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.120 of deep feelings in this episode, and the dude is 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.120 classic well, the law says twelve and thirteen year olds 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.880 can do farm work with parental consent, and fourteen and 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.680 up can work without consent. And Finn's like, yeah, but 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.920 they're getting paid like shit, and they get charged for 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.240 all this stuff, so they're in debt to farmers. They're 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.200 like indentured servants, you idiot. And the dude says, no way, 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.560 you're talking about illegals. These are like at risk American kids, 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.600 and Finn goes, yeah, they're just as vulnerable. So he 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.920 presses for a W two for a girl named Carly, 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.800 and the dude does have one, which is wild. 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.720 The last name is Holbart. 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.800 She's fifteen Lower East Side address, so he writes it 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.719 down for Finn, and now we're knocking on an apartment building. 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.360 Nobody's answering for a very long time, so Finn knocks 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.960 on the neighbor's door. She has a blunt bob cut 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.320 glasses and looks like she's about to talk. 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:11.880 I thought she would be a nosy neighbor. 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.720 She goes, oh, the whole bird's actually got evicted about 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.959 a year ago after the mother died cancer, and then 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.320 they went away, and she slams the door in his face. 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.520 Like, she I guess I called her rock. 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.240 Yeah, he goes, do you know where they went? She 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:28.760 goes away and just shuts the fucking door. She's classic, 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:30.720 It's yeah. But I thought she was going to be 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.480 a different classic. I thought she was gonna know everything 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.720 and be caring. He thought she was gonna be like, 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:37.080 if you want to know what I think? 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.440 Yeah, But instead she also doesn't care where these kids are. 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.719 So no one wants to help anybody. So the parents' 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.160 voters are on the board now at the squad and 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.160 there's security footage picks. So the family was tossed out 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.280 on the street about a year ago. They were drowning 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.280 in hospital det He has no current job, and Finn goes, 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.360 there's no missing report for Carly, and Craigan's like, do 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.360 we think the dad is the one who starve her? 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.400 And Finn goes, I mean, that's a lot of mouths 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.040 to feed and no income. So the dad used to 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.320 work in construction, but he can't work until he pays 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.400 his union fees and he hasn't done that. So Craigan's 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.600 trying to find a like, find him for like somehow, 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.480 So they're going through his unemployment, Social Security but Benson says, 0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:21.400 those benefits stopped a long time ago. But what do 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.080 we have. We find a car registration. It's a station 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.360 wagon and there's also three other kids. So what's up 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.120 with all those kids? We have Micah thirteen and daughters 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.240 Savannah seven and Lizzie five, cute names. So the child 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.640 services took them for a few months, but then the 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.200 dad got them all back and then fully disappeared from 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.880 the system. Finn runs in and the car has been found, 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.920 and they head down to the car stable and Benson 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.000 walked through a homeless alley type place and it's bad, 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.200 you know, it's it's like it's sad. Benson's like, fuck, 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.520 we can't tell him that his daughter is dead here, 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.280 like this is bad, and Stabler goes, it doesn't matter 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.680 where we, you know, tell him he's going to be upset. 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.400 They sadly approach the station wagon. It's a bridge covered 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.040 thing on one hundred and sixteenth Street. I can't imagine 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.840 where this is, Like, I don't know any open areas 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.239 like this. Yeah, me neither. I just feel like the 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:15.600 city is so jam packed in like every crevice. This 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.360 is like a big car park under a bridge, like 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.799 it's huge. I don't know, but there are small kids 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.160 playing behind the station wagon. The dad comes from behind 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.000 the car. He goes, I know, I know, I shouldn't 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.640 block the alley. I'm leaving right now. I'm leaving. He 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.920 tells the girls to rinse off with a jug of water. 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.480 They're like, oh, no, you actually need to come with us. 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.960 He then pleads, please don't take my kids away, and 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.560 they say this is about Carly and he gets so excited. 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.759 He goes, oh my god, have you seen her? And 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.919 this guy is great. He is from Nurse Jackie. He's 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.560 the guy that Nurse Jackie cheats on her husband with. 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.760 He's the pharmacist and he does have a good energy, 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.359 even though we are going to be mad at him 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.760 throughout this whole episode. So he asks if she's okay, 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.840 and they say that we should discuss it in private. 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.880 He of course breaks down. He knows what's up, and 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.000 he starts screaming no, no, no. The little girls are like, wait, 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.640 what's wrong, what's going on? Please don't take us. He's 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.040 trying to be calm for them, but he is freaking out. 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.000 So they have him now at the precinct and they 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.680 explain what happened. Your daughter was hit by a car 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.440 and she went quickly. He says, it's my fault. I 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.880 should have looked after them. I couldn't even do that. 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.479 He says, I saw her the last time a year ago, 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.640 because they were working farmland. It's a place on Long Island. 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.040 When their mom died, he just couldn't pay the bills 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.879 and could barely feed them. And Stabler is pissed. He goes, 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.279 you sent your kids away to make money. He says 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.040 that he had no choice. Some lady just told him 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.759 they were too young to work in the city but 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.160 not outside the city. And it's like, who is this lady? 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:38.719 Like what? 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.839 So you turned defenseless miners to a stranger, He says, well, 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:48.279 a woman wouldn't hurt them. He's a fool, so he's 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.560 a fucking idiot. She gave me a phone number and 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.800 talked with them, and then one time, one day the 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.040 number got disconnected. 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:54.399 He said. 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.640 Her name was Magda Poloma, thirty five. She was short 0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.760 and she had a little scar over her left eye. 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.359 And they got a license plate of the car and 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.840 then they ask, oh, did she give you an advance 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.959 for salaries? And he says, yes, five hundred dollars each, 0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.280 and Sabler's visibly sickened and said, you sold your children 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.360 to a predator. He screams, I love my kids. I 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.359 got them work. Benson says, dude, you had other options, 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.239 and he says he begged child services to help. They 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.799 dragged his kids away, crying and screaming and split them 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.719 up and one kid had a broken arm from an 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.279 attack in foster care. He's like, foster care sucks, and 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.319 I had to get all my kids back. They then 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.400 reveal that Carly was fucking pregnant, and he starts to 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.680 finally realize how bad this is, and he asks that 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.320 she get abused or something, and Benson kind of tears 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.320 up a little bit and she's like, your child was starved, 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.080 beaten and sexually assaulted. Dramatic music plays and he cries 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.000 and he shakes his head. Benson looks stern at him. 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.239 Stabler scowls. He's like, I sent them away so they 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.600 can have food and shelter and be safe. And Stabler 0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.239 opens the folder with the pictures so he can see 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.480 what fucking happened, and he goes, does this look safe 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:02.839 to you? 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.600 And he cries, I mean This is. 0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.080 The first time where I kind of understand where he's 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.080 coming from. Where he's like, well, they were gonna have 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.880 shelter and food. I thought it was like a good decision. 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.799 So because this whole time, I'm like, selling kids for 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.560 five hundred bucks is insane, Like why are you trusting 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.080 a random woman in a phone? Like, but then the 0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.080 finally getting to see where he was coming from. 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.120 Is a little I'm sure they also know how to 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.200 dupe you. They're like, yeah, they get to live in nature. 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.000 They work two hours a day, and then they go 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.400 to school. It's like going to forest school. It's like 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.200 an outdoor you know, community or whatever. 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:35.480 You know. 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.640 They're not telling them we're gonna pimp them out, and 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.000 like like the five hundred dollars is just to like 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.279 get them started with supply, you know whatever. Like I'm 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.760 sure they know how to fool them, even though it's 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:46.720 like unconscionable. 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:47.480 Yeah. 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.560 So then the dad in the in the photos in 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.640 the crowds, he's a picture and he goes, that's my son, 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.520 that's Micah. Do you have Micah? So they always looked 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.560 after each other. He's like he would never leave his 0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.640 sister just bleeding in the street. He must be in 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.040 danger or two. Please please help me find him. That's 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.600 my boy. So Craigan's at the office with the crew 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.160 and the dude and it's dark in the office. Turn 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.920 on a lamp. It is so dark, but Mission farms 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.480 his bogus. There's no info anywhere about them. The license 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.879 plate to the car was reported stolen a year ago, 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.920 and the phone number was a Burner Soyle that was 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.439 bought in a bodega. Benson is playing with the little 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.759 kids and gets up and they're like, this Paloma bitch 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.960 is a ghost. So you know, she's well organized. She's 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.320 a lying predator. And Sailor goes, yeah, and I blame 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.319 the dad that sold his kids. And Craigan's like, I mean, 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.040 some kids do have jobs. And it is so funny 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.680 because sometimes Craigan has no patience for people, and then 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.080 when he chooses to see the good in people, it 0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.160 makes no sense. Yeah, like why is he trying to 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:45.319 defend this? 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.080 Like he'll be like he'll. 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.560 Be like this fucking addict, and it's like, but you 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.839 are an addict, you know, And then he'll be like, 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:53.719 I don't know. The guy was just trying to get 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.239 his kids some pocket money, you know, like he does 0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:57.680 have weird sides. 0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.680 Yeah, I like his boomer is showing. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.960 But he and Stabler goes, no kids should have a childhood, 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.240 and Stablor and Craigan go back and forth, and Craigan 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.040 is soft and Stabler is like fuck you. 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.880 So basically though, the work. 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.120 Was legal, so they have to cut like everyone loose 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.120 and being homeless isn't a crime, so Craigan doesn't want 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.440 to split the family up. Finn runs in and a 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.040 civilian caught the chase on his cell camera and it's 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.799 not what we think, so we watch it and done done. 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:32.000 Micah pushed Carly into trap so her bruther I gasped, but. 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.000 I knew I just watched it, but I was like, 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.040 I can't believe it. 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.800 Why would the boy do this? And so he looks 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.799 so scared. So I do have a new candle and 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.960 it does smell like bananas, and I get whiffs of 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.600 it once in a while and it brings me to 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.160 such a place of joy. Okay, sorry, I love that. 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.200 Were a little serotonin boost? 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:51.920 Can we are? 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.160 And I know it's like so sad because the brother 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:55.120 just killed his sister. 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:56.279 But then I got a whiff. 0:39:56.000 --> 0:40:01.759 Of banana and I was like, mmm, so anyways, why 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.479 would that happen? So and he looks scared as well. 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.080 So Finn is like, yeah, he was abused too, and 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.800 he found out that he was charged with prostitution and resisting. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:11.960 So first they work on the farm and then they're 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.920 forced into the sex trade, and Finn goes, yep, and 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:19.640 there's more money in flesh than produce, and uh, private adoption. 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.279 Benson says, fuck, they probably sold Carly's baby. And I 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.520 didn't even fucking think about this. I thought it was 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.640 people who wanted a baby. Then we find out infants 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.560 on the black market. That's a ton of money. Craigan goes, 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.719 then you can raise your own victim. Did your brain 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:36.600 even go there? 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:45.440 Yeah no, but I mean I like, yeah, no, you 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.440 get a baby and you raise you, uh, to raise 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:49.480 your own victim. 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.960 I totally thought it was just rich people wanting babies. 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.720 Like my, Uh, that is dark, dude, that is fucking 0:40:55.800 --> 0:41:00.280 dark to think about. Yeah, really horrible, Oh my god, God, 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:07.040 raising your own victim? So yeah, raise victim in house 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.719 is the direct quote. Saber's like, whoa, how can a 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.759 thirteen year old be charged? For an act he can't 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.160 legally consent to. Finn goes, oh, I'm livid about this, 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.160 and goes, first thing I'm gonna do is ask the 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.000 dude that fucking pinched him. So Finn runs up to 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.040 a young woman detective and Finn goes, you know, Micah Holbert, 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.080 and she goes, yep, i've you know. I've brought him 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.560 in before for pandering and Finn goes, yeah, he's thirteen, 0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.960 he's a victim. She says, fine, I'll let him know 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.920 next time I call her him for working a corner 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.160 and Finn goes, they are sexually assaulted. We can't treat 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.239 them like criminals, and she responds, well, we match the 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.680 photos to missing persons and then send them home to 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.960 the same screwed up families that made them run away in. 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:45.480 The first place. 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.680 And they're back on the corner and Finn goes, we 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.279 need to protect these children, and she's like, well, they 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.600 have to testify against the pimps and open court, and 0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:56.120 Finn goes, nobody is gonna talk and she's like, exactly 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:57.080 my problem. 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.080 It sucks, dude, I hate this. 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.319 So I still don't like her them, and Finn is 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.799 like okay, just help me find Micah, bring me to 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:05.360 their pimps. 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:06.400 So they go to the pimps. 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.960 They ride together and there's all these losers lined up 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.040 with their hands over their head. Finn goes, fact, now 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.440 all of you are my bitches. Fact, deliver this kid 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.760 to me or get used to living in the tombs. 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.440 Fact. 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.600 Until then, no stables safe, no John's out of reach, 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.000 and most of all, no money gets made. So then 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.359 one dude immediately he is like, relax, relax, I can 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.600 help you out. So he's trying to be chill and 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.600 helpful and sly. We don't really know what's going to happen. 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.400 Finn goes, who are you? And he's being super vague 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.560 and silly, but the other detective knows him and calls 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:41.000 him a maggot and a nickel drug dealer and pimp, 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.240 so he's bad. He works with kids, and he points 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.319 to her and says, I told you nobody wants an 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.640 old whore, and I kind of like that, even though 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.080 it's fucked up, but men do like to Men are 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.239 pedophiles in their full spirit, and they have to fight 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.800 against it at all times. So Finn asks who runs 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.680 him and they say he's a drop off. Whoever runs 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.440 doesn't get involved, keep their distance, and nobody watches those kids. 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.320 Those kids police each other, and he goes, I wish 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:10.560 I knew how to do that. So I can't even 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.960 I can't even fathom the abuse that these kids like are. 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.480 Loyal to the Pimpsilverach. It's scary. 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.160 So Finn gets in his face and goes, I need 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.120 this kid brought to me by this time tomorrow, and 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.400 the dude goes, I'll have Jasmine deliver him to you 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.600 and only you. Finn goes do that, and so it's like, yeah, 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.239 he's doing what you're saying. It's so funny. But Finn 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.600 runs to the office and it's overrun with water. The 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.640 pipe's finally burst. Everyone has a box of files and 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.520 they move to the command center outside. 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.080 They're gonna be out there for a minimum of a week. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.640 Because the dude that rehabs the precincts he just got indicted. 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:48.080 L ol. 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.799 Wait, so I was like kind of wondering, like why 0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.799 are they doing this? Like why are they doing this? 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:56.240 Weird? 0:43:56.480 --> 0:44:00.680 The precinct is flooding thing, And I was about this 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:05.000 episode for something else and found out that this episode 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.640 is like right when they were moving their studios from 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:11.960 New Jersey to Chelsea Peers. So I think it has 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.040 something to do with that. They're like in transition, and 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.440 so they're using like kind of we got to get 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.120 out of the office, you know, and work out of 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.520 a van because like maybe it wasn't ready by like 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.000 a week or something, you know. But I thought that 0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.560 was interesting because I was like, this is such a 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.080 dumb plot point that has nothing to do with actually 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.040 what's happening in the episode. 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:29.600 It's just inconvenient, you know. 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:34.400 Yeah, because the usually when things are in construction and 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.200 a mess, and and like, look, I'm just thinking about 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.600 when Munch got paint on him. 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.399 Yeah, that's what I was thinking of too. 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.319 That might have been when they were like because they 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.400 have to explain that they're refurbishing the place because you know, 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.240 the precinct changes so much over the course of the show. 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.640 But this pipes and water, I'm like, what the fuck? 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.719 Like I think it's because of this big move from 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.279 they like lost their tax credit in New Jersey and 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.000 so they moved back to the city. 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.560 Which I bet was happier with wait, but yeah, so 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.440 but I also love that the dude that's going to 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.560 fix its indicted, and it's because concrete testing was fake 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.279 and so they might have to overhaul the whole foundation. 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.680 Of the whole bid away. 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.960 But then they go to this mobile center, fully painted, 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.280 set up, professional trailer like it looks like an office. 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:23.440 Things are bulletined. There is no way this is slapped together. 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:27.400 There's full walls, there's like walls in there. It's not 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.800 a trailer. So the running the description on Magda against 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.480 any known traffickers. There are three options. So let's get 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.560 a mug book going after we get Micah in custody 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.000 and show him the photos. Finn goes the deadlines tomorrow, 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.280 will see what happens at the drop off. Craigan sends 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.720 a squad to back him up. We see really young children. 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.480 It's really sad. It looks like they're playing dress up, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.520 but it's just children that are sex workers victims. 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.520 I don't know. It's awful. 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.800 Sailors like, oh god, you know, thinking about his kids. 0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.680 Benson goes, those are not your kids, knows, but it 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.640 just sucks. Benson says, as long as we treat victims 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.360 as criminals, it will always be the same arrest the 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.680 Johns get them. They all get slaps on the wrist. 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.640 Nobody cares. Nothing is a degiterrent these creeps. Benson wants 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.160 to treat them like the scum they are. Finn finally 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.239 has his sights on Micah and he pretends to be 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.399 a John. And then this is really upsetting. Micah says, 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.319 hands thirty, blowing goes forty in and out sixty five. 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.719 He's wearing a green tak top and he has a 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:27.360 very devin saa vibe. 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.319 And Finn is a good john. He knows what's up. 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.839 And just then Mike, Finn. 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.040 Like looks like such a cop to me, Like, it's 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.920 just like he does not look I don't know, like. 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.919 No, because he's also is he the cop killer too? 0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:42.960 Like he is iced tea. 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.000 Sure he is iced tea, but he doesn't seem like 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.279 the kind of guy who at any point is picking 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.239 up a team for a blow and go Like, that's 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.719 just not the vibe I get from Finn or from 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.440 Ice or from like. But we know him, yeah, of course, 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.440 of course, of course. But I'm sure think that that 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.120 kid has seen all kinds. 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.200 That's what I mean, Like, we assume no one is 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.160 molesting children which makes it easier for people to molest 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.200 children because they're all doing it. You are, it is 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.920 up to you, and I'm calling child services. 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:15.160 No. 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.520 Mike then goes around the world is three hundred, so 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.040 that's upsetting. Around the world means all the holes in 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.720 one session. I looked it up, so all three holes 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.319 is around the world. But Urban Dictionary did have other 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.920 explanations in this capacity. I know what it is, but 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:36.040 it also means rimming situation like a circle around the butthole. 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.160 And then the third. 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.960 Urban Dictionary explanation is licking from the top of an 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.000 ascract to the bottom than up the. 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:44.719 Pussy and dick. 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.680 Oh, but in terms of where we're coming from, I 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.920 think it's every hole. Yeah, Vinn says, well, this car's 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.759 too small for what I want to do. Let's take 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.600 a ride, and the dude goes yes. So then Stabler 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.520 approaches him and immediately the fighting. I mean, this young 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:04.960 actor is very talented. Like the thrashing, fighting, screaming and 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:09.640 pain that he does throughout this whole episode is masterclass. 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.560 And he's crawling he like does not want to be punished, 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.319 and he goes, you don't understand. You have to let 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.480 me go. They'll get punished. Stabler calms him down, and 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.960 then we see that there's bloody marks all over his 0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:25.480 back and body, and it horrifies the detectives. He kneels 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.040 and cries and says, they'll get punished. Please let me go, 0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.239 They'll get punished, she repeats, and he starts thrashing as 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:34.040 we stare at his giant wounds that are as giant 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.680 as his whole back. In the cop car, he's pushing 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.240 against the door and windows, screaming, let me out, you bitches. 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.480 They also want to know how to help Jasmine Stable 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.280 and Benson really come with us. She's like, uh uh, 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.239 you see his back. My daddy is good to me. 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.680 He would never do that. She does give them the 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.759 info that they need that he travels an hour to 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.040 get to the city, but does it no more. And 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.440 they again try to protect her and give her a 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.120 place to stay and get her counseling, and she says, 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.360 all you're doing is man making sure I get smacked. 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.600 And they're like, wait, you said he didn't mistreat you, 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.360 and you're getting hit, and she goes, well, my stepdad 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.439 did a lot worse, so can I go now? 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:11.719 And they say please just wait. 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.759 And then Finn is about to zip time Mica, but 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:16.799 they don't want him to. They're like, what the fuck, 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:21.120 Like he's probably been you know, he is tied up 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:23.520 and has ligature marks, so like the zip tie is going. 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:24.160 To scare him. 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.040 But also I don't get why they're not just bringing 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.560 him to the precinct faster, like get him into a room, 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.880 you know what I mean, and feed him. I don't 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:32.400 understand why they have to like sit him in the 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.600 car for this long. They don't know what to do 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.239 because he's flipping out, but they don't want to tie 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.560 him up because that's trauma. But now he starts banging 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.520 his head against the windows so hard they have to 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.960 take him out. Stable grabs him and goes, just calm 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.759 down and you can get untied, and he breathes a 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.520 little softer. We're at the hospital and there's evidence of 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.280 repeated sexual penetrations, severe malnutrition. He is a human trafficking victim, 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.319 and the doc says, oh, that makes total sense. And 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:57.960 on top of that, he also has farm pesticide stuff 0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.120 in his blood, calloused hands and this is all just 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.120 so upsetting. He asks if he has any family or 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.319 any help through counseling or treatment. And you were like, well, 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.719 the father lives in a fucking car, but we'll find 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.600 him now. So Staylor's like, we need to talk to Micah. 0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.319 And the doctor says, well, I hope you have better 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.760 luck than me. They enter his room cautiously. He's so silent, 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:19.359 and he's like, you should have let me go. You're 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.839 gonna get them killed. And they say, tell us where 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.880 they are, we'll get them out. He goes, you're a 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:27.719 liars and everybody lies. Nobody does something for nothing, and 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:32.359 Staylor says, I do. And now Dan Goldberg walks in. 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.920 Micah's guardian at Lydtum, assigned by family court, and you 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.560 can't interrogate my client. Benson says, it's not an interrogation, 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:43.879 it's an interview either way, good vibe. Staylor says, let's 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.400 go outside, so they exit the room in the hallway 0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.440 to chat. And this guy he is well known. He 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.680 was in Maria Bamford's show on Netflix. He played her manager. 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.520 And he's also in one of my favorite movies, in 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.279 a World, and he plays the dad in it, so 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:00.840 that's exciting. 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.359 Wait, he also plays the father in Wait, I have 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:05.120 to look this up. 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.800 I'm sorry, wait, do you know his name? I'm looking 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.800 it up. Fred Melamed. 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:16.040 Sorry, he's in Casual and he plays the main people's 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.640 father and he's like this complete narcissist and. 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.680 They have like a complicated relationship with their parents. He 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:21.520 is really good. 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.000 He's in so much like he this man has seven 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.480 things in pre pro I mean like in upcoming, Like 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:29.920 he feels like he's so prolific. 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:32.799 Fred Melamed. 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.400 Yeah, he's really great and I've only seen him in 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:40.239 like sillier parts, so but whatever. So he, you know, 0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:43.719 is stopping this interrogation, like this chat from happening, and 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:45.920 the detectives are trying to help Mike guy, you know, 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.919 so Sailor takes him outside in the hallway to chat 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:49.520 and this guy. 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:53.680 My question is also like where has this man been? 0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.880 Because like I'm a CASA, you know, and he's a 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.960 gal guardian Adltam is gal and like there's some time 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.760 I'm like considered like it'll be like costas slash gal 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.000 or whatever, and I'm kind of like, have you not 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.200 been checking it? Who called you? How did you get involved? 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.279 Like at this juncture when things are really bad, do 0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.759 you think he just joined like they just got him. 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.680 They're like, you gave the Hosco mind. 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:18.759 Yeah yeah. 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.399 Maybe Saila breaks it down to him, but the guy 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.440 is like, I'm sorry. Until he is no longer a 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:26.040 suspect in his sister's murder, he is off limits, like 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.560 I'm here to protect him. Benson goes, you are risking 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.839 the lives of other children, but he thinks he's doing 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.320 the right thing in protecting Micah. So Finn and Craigan 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.360 are standing outside the mobile unit and Craigan is fuming. 0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:39.279 The construction workers are just hanging around and they're not 0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:44.000 working because they're union guys. So I just love Craigan 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.680 being upset. Benson and Stadler are approaching sunglasses. They can't 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.320 get Mica to talk. The DA doesn't want to prosecute 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.480 an abuse victim as an adult for murder, and then 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.800 Finn says, this kid's going to juvenile lock up or 0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:58.080 a psych ward. Benson says, either way, Goldberg isn't gonna 0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.319 let him anywhere near us, so unless we give him 0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.799 something he needs, So what is that? Craigan says, let's 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.520 get a psych evaluation of intent, and like when he 0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.200 was chasing his sister down, Sabler thinks family court will 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.400 cut him loose, but if they can find out that 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.399 he didn't mean to kill his sister, So Craigan's gonna 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.440 call doctor Huang. So we hear Beadie Wong's voice say Micah, 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.600 don't hold your breath, and we see an angry Micah. 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.719 Poor boy, he wants out. He starts screaming to be out. 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:26.440 He says, I'll open the door, but you are not 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.120 allowed to go out. He respects the boundaries and says 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.759 that he hates locks and chains, and it's dark and 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.680 musty and it smells rotten. So he was kept in 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.759 a cellar, and he was locked up on a farm 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.319 in a cellar, so that's why they opened the door, 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:44.960 so like, you know, not to trigger him. So he said, 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.880 any mistake and every single kid gets beat, so no 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.560 one can make some mistakes. No marks on the girls 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:54.520 because men don't want them ugly. And Huang asks for like, well, 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.840 what happened the first day on the farm, and Micah 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.400 begins to pace. So Magda drove him there and she 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.400 was nice, sweet ice cream, played games, but then he 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.839 was left with Liam and they just know him as 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.600 just Liam Benson and stabler are with the lawyer and 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.839 is like, we can't protect him from his abuser if 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:11.040 you keep doing what you're doing. 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:12.000 Is that what you want? 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.200 He says, you know, I don't. But until the judge rules, 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:16.200 my hands are tied. 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:16.719 That's it. 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.239 Wang is, you know, talking to Micah and he goes, 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.280 he made sure you never paid off your debt, didn't 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.560 he And you're on the hook for everything, food, water, shelter. 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.320 And then sadly the sex started. So the money was 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:31.680 so good that he wanted more money. So then the 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.640 farm trips turned into motel trips, and then on the 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.160 weekends he spent on the knee, on his knees, taking 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.000 one right after another. And like the thing is the 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.520 price is so cheap, Like if the money is good, 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:48.080 that means he's working so fucking much. It gets worse. 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:50.960 Wait till we get to the next part. Yeah, he 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.560 kicks the chair. He's upset and mad. Ten of them, 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.600 there's ten of them total, and six of them made 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.960 money from sex. And then he says and Carly, and 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.160 he breathes, have a and b d Wong says, you're 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.480 safe here, have a heliens in He goes. 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:04.320 What happened? To the others. 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.600 So we worked days and we work nights, and we 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.600 didn't always get to eat, not even like what we picked. 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.040 We only ate scraps and garbage from composts, unless the 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.000 girls were pregnant, then we ate real good. So there 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.719 were three babies born, and so during those times they 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.839 got to eat well. But the babies were taken away 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:23.720 right away and never seen again. 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.480 He says. Carly wanted her baby, and it didn't matter 0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:27.920 how she got it. It was hers. 0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.400 But they don't know what happened to the baby. B 0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.120 d Wong looks so disgusted and desperate to help him, 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.040 but like you know, he needs to take a moment, 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.640 so he walks out and he goes. They need to 0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:40.960 catch these animals, he asked. Did you ever notice any 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.440 landmarks or road signs when you went to these motels? 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.799 He says, I usually keep my eyes shut. The car 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.480 rides make me sick. Carl would rub his belly to 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:50.640 make him feel better. His sister took care of him, 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.880 and he's crying at this point. We took care of 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.440 each other, he says, and she tried to leave. If 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:57.600 she left, they would beat us. Carly knew how bad 0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.520 they would beat us. Why would she try to run? 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.560 Bd Wong explains, well, maybe she was trying to get help, 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:03.799 and he starts to freak out. 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:05.839 No no, no, no, no, no no, no, please don't 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:06.120 say that. 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.000 He knocks down the chair and starts Thrashinghuang is trying 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.960 to figure out what's going on. He's crying because if 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.640 she was really trying to save them, then like uh oh, 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.000 and bd Wong goes, what did you do? He goes, 0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:18.960 I killed Carly. I pushed her and she got hit 0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.960 and he starts crying. Stabler nods, we hear Micah say, 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:23.600 I didn't know she was trying to save us. I 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.680 killed my sister. Huang niels and puts his hand down 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.520 his shoulder as he cries. Stabler's like, we need to 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.759 find this bitch. He tells the lawyer man like, we 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:33.840 need to go through mug books, like we need to 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:37.080 do this, lawyer. The lawyer says, that's doctor Huang's call, 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.120 so he's recommending immunity and witness protection. 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:40.759 Thank god. 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.320 The lawyer doesn't think that any family court judge is 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.279 going to accept that. Howang goes, I don't fucking care 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:47.680 a federal court judge will accept it, and I'm the 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.839 FBI and I'm taking over. Benson's like, wait, slow down. 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.120 What he goes human trafficking, sex trafficking, the man act 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.520 like transporting miners across state lines, all violating US codes. 0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.839 He says, I have to call my boss. Sablor fights 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.879 the and goes, no, Micah isn't going anywhere. Bidie Wong 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:06.160 opens his mouth like jaw to the floor, like excuse me, 0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.719 and slowly walks back and goes, and how are you 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.759 gonna stop me? And say, Butler's trying to big dick him, 0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.360 and goes, You're not the only one with the FEDS 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.800 on speed dial. It's like it's that speed dial. He 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:19.280 is the FBI, Like I can't believe Stabler's trying to 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.680 big time him. And it's like you have him on call. 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:22.960 He has the badge bitch. 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.280 I know, but I kind of get what Stabler. 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.520 Like in this moment, I feel like Huang is only 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:33.080 looking out for Micah, and Stabler and Benson are looking 0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.720 at the bigger picture of like what's going on with 0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:37.360 the other kids, Like we got to find these other 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.600 fucking kids. They're in danger right now. And I think 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:45.200 that's where this is all stumming from. Yeah, So they 0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.960 have a stare off into the blackness. So we open 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.479 up and Benson and Stabler are visiting Gloria Rubin, who's 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:52.920 playing assistant US Attorney Christine Danielson. 0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:55.120 She's a Neil Bear. She's a Neil Bear. 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:55.560 Darling. 0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.080 Oh, I mean, I always know Glory. 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.440 I always remember Gloria Rubin from her role on Er 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.600 where she played a doctor with HIV and that was 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.800 like one of the first like that was like such 0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:08.760 an important character. I feel, wow, you know, and that's 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:10.560 like always how I knew her. But then I know 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:14.360 she's been in as few other times as well. But 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.040 like she is, she's a Neil Bear, fab I feel. 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.919 And Saber's like, wow, you've moved up in the world. 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:21.240 And she's like, why are you guys here? 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:22.040 You got this? 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:23.680 The case is slid. Why do you have to bring 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.160 me in? And so they just and then she starts 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:30.080 talking numbers. So globally about twenty seven million people are trafficked, 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.160 and in the US that's fourteen to eighteen thousand, but 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:36.040 she thinks that number is low. She then says, how 0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:38.640 like if a girl from Indonesia is trafficked here and 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:41.400 she's found, she gets aid in services, but if it's 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.320 a girl from New York, she gets nothing. She goes 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.680 to a TV screen and starts showing photos and chatting 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.880 about victims. And this is just like a pure lesson time. 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:52.360 This does not move the plot in any capacity, but 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.240 it does help us understand what's really going on, and 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.480 it's really sad. So we first see a fourteen year 0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:00.240 old girl who's enslaved by a suburban family in Minnesota. 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:03.400 She cooks and cleans and sleeps in the closet, and 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.400 it's like, who is this family? You know, like a 0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.480 regular family just has a child, because I bet they 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.280 have children, but it's different than this girl. And they 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.760 keep her in the closet. It's like it's sickening. It's 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:18.000 so I can't even imagine. And then to clean and cook, 0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:22.440 it's so cha like it's affordable. We have someone come 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:24.400 to the house, you know, every a couple of weeks, 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:26.919 every month. It's a it's an affordable price. I don't 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:28.880 understand why you'd need a child's slave. 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.520 So then then if it's not affordable clean your own 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:34.120 fucking house, you don't get a child's slave. 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:41.200 Yeah, you know, yeah, even if you can't afford it. 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.080 I'm not okay with child slavery. Let me go on 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:44.640 the record. 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:45.919 Oh my god. 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:48.840 So then there's a twelve year old sold by her 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.320 mother for five grand to a middle aged man who 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.080 shared her with his friends. And now a nine year 0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:56.280 old girl in Portland tossed to the street by her 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.240 grandmother and she got taken by a pimp who charged 0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:04.720 premium prece for someone so young. Just reminds me when 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:10.080 parents talk about having unconditional love for their kids and 1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:15.000 how that's not guaranteed. Yeah, She's like, for each one saved, 1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:17.160 there eight more like them, and there's not much else 1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:21.080 to do, like without funding for domestic victims. So what 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.960 happens to Micah's friends when we find them? And she says, 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:25.920 I promise I'll take care of them and protect them. 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.440 I'll use my budget and we'll figure it out. But 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:31.960 she hasn't decided yet if she's going to take their bait, 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:35.280 and they look confused and shocked by the statement. Benson's 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.920 mouth is open wide, and Sailor says, we did the legwork, 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:40.080 and she's like, well, I have the task force, the 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.760 funding and the personnel I need, And then I'm thinking, 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:45.320 should have stuck with long, you idiots. But then Benson 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.920 leans in and goes, yeah, and your personnel isn't familiar 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:49.400 with the case and they need to be read in 1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:50.880 and that's a waste of time, and we need to 1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:54.040 save these kids. And Sailor adds that Manhattan is yet 1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:56.680 to ever make one sex traffic conviction, and we can 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.320 make a local example with this. She thinks about it. 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.360 Benson looks worried in her eyes. Stabler pleads, please please 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:04.919 help us out, so she shakes her head and then goes, 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:05.680 give me your tin. 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:08.080 That's the badge. So they switch their badges. 1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:11.400 They give their NYPD badges, they get us Marshall deputy badges, 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:14.240 and I'm wondering, like, lol, how did she have those 1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:17.400 badges just ready, two badges ready to give to random people, 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:21.520 And so they swap them out and with these credentials 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:25.120 they can work outside of their jurisdiction. Benson smiles really 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:27.920 cheeky vibes, and then they raise their right hand and 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:29.720 take an oath. Finn is staring at the boy in 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:32.480 the hospital through glass, at Micah with his lawyer, Stable 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:34.640 and Benson run in and Stabler is like pumped to 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:38.640 have screwed over Huang and it bothers me and I 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.000 just I don't get it. He's like, so, how mad 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:45.320 is Huang about the bad news? And Finn gives Finn goes, 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:47.400 why don't you give him some space? He used words 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.720 I've never heard him use, and he asks to see 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.160 the badges and they're like showing these badges off like 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:56.800 little children. So then Gloria Rubin runs in and knows Finn. 1:01:57.360 --> 1:01:59.960 I mean she's from you know, she's from four episod, 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:01.440 So it's going back to two thousand and two. She 1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:04.480 did play a different character, but they do know this person. 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:07.960 And she asks how Micah is doing identifying people and 1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:11.360 he has matched seven possible matches, but he ran through 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:14.520 something and there's nothing, and then all of a sudden 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:16.680 he sees a photo and he starts thrashing. He gets 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:19.000 up violently, so the lawyer runs to the window and 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:21.800 shows them the photo and it's Victoria Raised and we 1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:27.480 obviously hate her. Akakiki Ramos lots of akash has tons 1:02:27.520 --> 1:02:29.640 of names, and they're going to add Magna a Paloma 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.800 to the list of names. She's served time in Maryland 1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:34.040 and they haven't been able to find her since her 1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:36.800 record is sealed because she flipped for a deal and 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:40.360 got witness protection. Even with those badges, they can't get 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:43.360 into that folder. Benson and Stablar are like, hmm, maybe 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.800 the AUSA assigned to the case has access, and Gloria goes, 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:51.240 we're very territorial, so stupid. So then the a USA 1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.840 is the United States Attorney's Office and Staylor breaks it down, 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:56.040 what kind of press do you want? 1:02:56.120 --> 1:02:58.600 Live victims are dead kids? She sighs. 1:02:58.720 --> 1:03:00.800 She looks off to think. So they go and they 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:03.640 try to see what they can do. So they're at 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:08.080 Federal Correctional Institution interview room in Danbury, Connecticut, Sunday, October third. 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.440 She's pleading with a tall string being of a man 1:03:10.520 --> 1:03:12.560 who is like, this, better not mess up my case. 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:13.080 Bullshit. 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:15.440 We've heard this so many times. And it's like you're 1:03:15.480 --> 1:03:18.160 always wrong, Like these men are always wrong. They're wrong 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.840 constantly and never learn a lesson. And it reminds you 1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:23.240 of con Air, which Kara did recently watch for the 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:26.080 first time. Yes, and it's like that angry dude and 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:29.040 it's like he was wrong like seven times in that episode. 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:32.440 I mean in that movie and would not stop yelling 1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:36.240 and demanding things. It's like, fuck you, you stupid men 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:39.440 in charge are always wrong. So behind him, though, is 1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:42.120 the bitch Poloma sitting behind glass and she says she's 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:43.960 not talking with that immunity, and they're like, yeah, she 1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:45.640 has it, and he seems shocked. 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:47.760 They're like he's like, fuck, how big is your case? 1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:50.800 And she has no patience since she snaps, quit fishing, 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:54.000 tell your witness to cooperate. She gives lip and says, 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:55.760 I don't have to talk to you, and she gets 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:58.720 right in there in her face. Fine, then I will 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:01.080 vacate the deal you have on the table right now, 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:05.400 no witness protection, no immunity, and the lawyer yells, you 1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:08.880 can't do that, and Gloria Rubin goes, you're threatening my 1:04:09.040 --> 1:04:12.280 human trafficking case. I can and I will. My case 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:15.480 is bigger and the AG loves headlines. I mean, besides 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:18.760 the horrific cases, learning all these acronyms seems so hard 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:21.360 for the job, Like how do you remember every single initial? 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:25.520 There's just so many letters and codes. It's like I 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:26.480 don't understand. 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:30.000 So she shimmy's in her chair Sabler walks over and 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:32.600 opens a folder with Mikeah and Carly, and it's just 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:34.880 so sad that what they've been through. She looks down 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:37.600 and smiles and says, yeah, got a thousand bucks seats. 1:04:37.720 --> 1:04:41.000 She's cold, she's cold blooded, she's smugs. She doesn't feel bad. 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:43.240 But also this woman, I looked her up. She has 1:04:43.280 --> 1:04:45.280 barely any credit. She should be working more. I think 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.920 she plays soulless very very well. 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:49.360 Yeah, she's good. 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:52.320 She thinks about it and takes the breath before revealing 1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:55.480 it's Liam and Julie Ryan want to be farmers, but 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:56.800 she's never seen the farm. 1:04:57.040 --> 1:04:57.280 Fuck. 1:04:57.680 --> 1:04:59.560 The guy was careful and he would meet and pick 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.280 up the case. We talked on burn phones that he 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:04.920 would give me, and he said he needed some merchandise 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:06.800 to work on the fields, and I got it for him. 1:05:07.200 --> 1:05:07.960 Where did they meet? 1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:10.240 So they met at a farm and feed store in 1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:15.400 some town called Hyan donk Yan Dank whatever. She delivered 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.520 seven kids and even says I heard they turn those 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:21.800 kids out. Evil bitch isn't worried. They ask if she 1:05:21.880 --> 1:05:24.080 knew any of their names, and she says, I didn't ask. 1:05:24.320 --> 1:05:27.360 I didn't care. All you saw was Dollar signs hunt. 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:30.440 She's like yeah, and of course she then gets pissed 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:32.480 and says, well, no one came to my rescue. 1:05:32.960 --> 1:05:35.800 That's all we are Dollar Signed. So it's classic, you know. 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:38.720 Obviously she was abused forever and now she has no 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:42.000 care for anybody and wants them to suffer as much 1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:44.440 as she did. So I bet her and the girl 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:46.440 from Damaged would get along. I hope they meet in 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:48.480 jail one day. I feel like Ari Grainer and this 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:51.800 evil bitch can be soulless in jail together, making friendship bracelets, 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:52.640 let's say mean things. 1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:57.080 She's like the She's like Laura Gomez, who we interviewed 1:05:57.120 --> 1:06:00.640 her character remember from like where she's helped to traffic 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:05.000 the girls. Yeah, because she was trafficked herself, Like yeah, yeah. 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:08.360 And so yeah, hopefully she meets her in jail too. 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:13.360 They can all like reminisce. So then she reveals something bad. 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:16.120 So she worked, she only worked with them for less 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:18.360 than a year and recently stopped. I guess she does 1:06:18.440 --> 1:06:20.920 have limits because she heard her rumor they burned some 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:24.480 workers when the heat was closing in. So they kill kids, 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:31.479 they burn them, and yeah, awful. It keeps getting worse. 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:34.360 So illegals, she says, are too scared to talk, so 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:37.000 they just have to kill the kids. And that happened 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.320 in Florida, and they made the kids drink kool aid, 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:41.880 So this is on par with charisma. Like I think 1:06:41.960 --> 1:06:46.440 this is the most dark, horrible situation ever, Like that 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:48.760 was a bunch of dead kids and now this, I 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:52.400 it's just it's just dark. So Benson says, there's no 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:55.480 record of them buying anything in Suffolk County, no bank accounts, 1:06:55.520 --> 1:06:56.760 no credit, They're paying cash. 1:06:56.840 --> 1:06:58.320 Tailor then does have a great idea. 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:01.480 Let's fax over the photos of them to the farm 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:04.280 and feed store and see if they're regulars there. Benson nods, 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:06.880 Finn's on the computer getting scooped. So they lost their 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:09.480 farm in Maryland due to foreclosure. They moved to North 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:12.200 Carolina and then Florida, and they must have skipped down 1:07:12.400 --> 1:07:16.000 before Sarasota ped could question them after neighbors reported they 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:19.840 had illegal labor. And when they got there they found 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.520 all these bodies of children cyanide with grape juice. Craigan 1:07:23.640 --> 1:07:25.640 runs in with a little paper in his hand. The 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:28.960 Ryan's are releasing ten acres off the books from a 1:07:29.040 --> 1:07:31.960 farmer that just went bankrupt. So Stabler and Benson are 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:35.320 driving like so fast, and Finn's gonna have Suffolk County 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:36.280 PD meet them there. 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:40.040 Stabler is very clear, no lights, no sirens. We can't 1:07:40.080 --> 1:07:41.560 spook them or the kids will die. 1:07:42.160 --> 1:07:43.960 So Gloria is in the backseat of the car and 1:07:44.120 --> 1:07:47.280 she's calling to get warrants set and first responders ready 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:50.760 on hand with cyanide kits. It's a dirt, bumpy road 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:54.640 and there's a truck driving at them. They start playing chicken. 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:57.760 Benson hangs out the door with a gun ready to shoot. 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:00.680 They fly off the road and the detectives get them 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:02.960 with guns. They put their hands out the windows right away. 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:05.400 They're not playing games right now, and it's just like 1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:08.000 the plainest looking blonde woman I've ever seen, Like. 1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:11.920 Like what we assume criminals look like. They are not. 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:13.240 They are there. 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:13.760 This is it. 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:16.559 Benson and Gloria rushed to the farm. They gotta help 1:08:16.600 --> 1:08:19.880 these kids. Benson enters, gun up, Hello, is anybody there? 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:22.759 She announces she's a police officer, and then she remembers, 1:08:22.800 --> 1:08:24.759 oh my god, the root seller. We gotta go underground. 1:08:24.800 --> 1:08:28.960 She goes underground. There's children chained up. It is so sad, 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.599 and the chains are all like they it pulls all 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:33.920 their arms over their heads because there's like a thin 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:36.800 pole and Benson's trying to tear down the pole so 1:08:37.160 --> 1:08:39.519 to get all the chains down. The kids are puking, 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:42.960 they've already been poisoned. The EMTs start coming in. He 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:45.120 and the EMT has all the stuff needed in the 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:49.160 cyanide kit. And this actor was probably so stressed, or 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:51.600 maybe they got a real EMT because he had to 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:53.800 say hydrox hydro. 1:08:55.120 --> 1:08:56.800 Oxacobolaman in. 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:02.920 Hydri and see kobalaman Yeah, should bind the crystals, he says, 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:07.880 and then a thiosulfate IVY and a hyperbaric oxygen. But 1:09:08.280 --> 1:09:11.080 that's a tough audition. That's a tough audition, but it's 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:13.160 a small enough part. Like I wonder if they were 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:16.280 able to get a real EMT. Yeah, but you know, 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:22.280 we've talked to people who have memorized Wilder. So but 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.280 he only has a ten to fifteen minute window to 1:09:24.360 --> 1:09:26.639 save these kids. There's so many kids, and I hope 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:29.400 they're able to do it. This is horrible. Another EMT joins, 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:33.320 and the faces on Benson and Stabler are pained. They 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:35.880 are in pain, and this is just so sad and 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:38.240 to think that kids are living like this. So the 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:41.280 scum criminals are being shackled and put into separate cop cars, 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:44.040 and I'm so happy they're going to be locked away 1:09:44.120 --> 1:09:48.000 for fucking life. They're dressed bad, they're clearly the worst people, 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:51.880 but like unassuming as fuck. And then they're they're in 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:55.679 full body chains and so that's like cool. Gloria goes, wow, 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:58.000 full body chains and Stabler goes, they're lucky they're not 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:01.280 in body bags. And they invoke right away. Obviously their 1:10:01.320 --> 1:10:04.519 career criminals. They found a laptop, they found tons of cash. 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:06.439 Hopefully they'll be able to find like all the kids 1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:09.200 that they sold. And they do have to switch their 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:11.120 badges out though, so they get to do a little 1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:15.120 swap on the badges. Thank you, Benson says, and Gloria says. 1:10:15.200 --> 1:10:17.880 The door is always open. And they're at Bellevue and 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:21.200 Micah's in bed and now you know, the dad's in 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:23.320 the hospital. He goes, fuck, my daughter is dead and 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:26.320 my son killed her and it is your fault, and 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:29.200 he asks how to fix this, and they go listen, 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:30.880 it's going to take a lot of time and care, 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:33.920 but Micah needs counseling and support and you have to 1:10:34.000 --> 1:10:36.439 do it and we need to make sure he feels safe. 1:10:36.479 --> 1:10:37.840 And the dad goes, well, I live in a car, 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.280 and they go not anymore. They talk to a shelter 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:43.720 geared towards families. It's temporary housing, but all of them 1:10:43.760 --> 1:10:46.040 are getting housing until he can get back on his feet, 1:10:46.080 --> 1:10:47.840 and he is shocked that they're helping him after he 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:50.599 screwed up so bad, but they know Micah cannot get 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:54.400 better without him, and I just I hate him. I 1:10:54.439 --> 1:10:56.600 don't know if I was Mike, i'd be pissed to 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:58.040 my dad, like, I don't know how you get over it. 1:10:58.200 --> 1:10:58.840 I really don't. 1:10:59.200 --> 1:11:04.000 Yeah, selling me to sex traffickers what? The dad nods, 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:06.360 thanks them and goes towards Micah, who's in the hospital 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:08.560 bed and begins to cry and says I'm sorry, and 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:10.800 the dad says, it's not your fault, it's mine and 1:11:10.880 --> 1:11:13.320 we can all agree with that, and then Benson and 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:17.120 Stabler walk off like the superheroes they are as benson 1:11:17.160 --> 1:11:17.920 hair sways in. 1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:23.640 The wind and that's Dick Wolf baby, dark, thank you 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:24.240 so much? 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:28.479 Wow, Yeah, dark dark episode, but seeing little kids in 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.920 chains and a cellar is tough. Like, I wonder who 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:34.519 those little kids are, their stage parents, they were all there. 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:36.439 Like, how do you explain it to the kids. It's 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:40.320 just like a lot I know. Ugh, it's really gross. 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:45.320 Okay, well, please cleanse your palate with a few words 1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:47.280 from our sponsors and we'll be right back. 1:12:02.800 --> 1:12:07.280 Okay. So this episode, I think. 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:10.719 Partially just the beginning part and the brother's sister relationship 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:14.639 I think is based on the death of Janis Marie Brock. 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:18.040 She was born in nineteen fifty seven and then at 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:21.920 some point her parents lost custody and she and her 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:24.280 younger brother, Timothy were put into foster care. 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:27.479 So in nineteen sixty nine, at the age of twelve. 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:30.280 I don't know how old Timothy is, but Janis is twelve, 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:33.920 and she's Janie Marie, but she goes by Marie mostly 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:34.519 in her life. 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:36.840 So she is twelve. 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:40.120 They get adopted by the youngs of Newport News, Virginia, 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:43.240 and so there's surnames changed from Brock to Young, so 1:12:43.320 --> 1:12:47.080 now she's Janis Marie Young. Around nineteen seventy two, she's fifteen, 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:50.920 she is raped by an adoptive sibling, which her younger 1:12:51.000 --> 1:12:54.880 brother witnessed. So she packs her shit into a pillowcase 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:56.720 and she gets the hell out of there. And her 1:12:56.720 --> 1:12:59.920 and her brother were so close, and he he's like, ah, 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:02.320 you know, we were like each other's teddy bear, each 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:04.920 other's comfort blankets. And he's like, we both endured a 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:06.880 lot of abuse. And when she ran away, I figured 1:13:06.920 --> 1:13:08.320 it would just be for like a little bit, but 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:11.760 then he never saw her again. So what happened was 1:13:12.360 --> 1:13:16.320 on June ninth, nineteen seventy three, a teenage girl is 1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:19.360 pushed in front of a car and killed in Saint Petersburg, Florida. 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:22.000 And it's really graphic. 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.479 I mean, like, I know that the sound was graphic 1:13:24.520 --> 1:13:26.479 for you in this episode, but apparently this girl was 1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:29.519 like dragged one hundred feet and like was unrecognizable from 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:33.960 this this being hit by this car. She'd been fighting 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:36.679 with a man named Laurence Dorn. Doran said he didn't 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:38.639 even know her, but had given her and some other 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:40.640 people a ride and then at the house where he 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:43.640 dropped them off, he claimed she attacked him with a 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:45.880 broken bottle and a knife, and he said when he 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:48.320 shoved her he was acting in self defense. So he 1:13:48.520 --> 1:13:51.160 was charged with her murder, but then later the charge 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:54.200 was downgraded to manslaughter, and eventually they were the charges 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:57.720 were dropped altogether because they couldn't prove his intent. And 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:00.240 this just like reminds me of in the episode where 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:02.040 they were like, well we got to talk to Mike 1:14:02.160 --> 1:14:04.160 about his intent when he was like when he pushed 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:06.519 his sister. So that makes me feel like this is, 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:10.800 you know, loosely borrowed from this. And so this unidentified 1:14:10.880 --> 1:14:14.200 woman had actually been in touch with the police hours earlier. 1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:16.400 The police had stopped to question her, and they had 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:20.640 given her the name Marie Brock, and since Janice or 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:22.640 often went by her middle name, and Brock was her 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:25.439 original last name before she was adopted by these people 1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:28.479 that abused her and let her get sexually assaulted, so 1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:32.000 unable to find her family because they're looking up Marie Brock, 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.439 the police assumed that she'd given them a fake name 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:36.479 and named her a Jane Doe and she was buried 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:39.439 in an unmarked grave. But her little brother, Timothy never 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:41.800 stopped looking for his sister Janice. He looked for her 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.680 for forty two years, but he was always looking for 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:47.800 her as Janice Young, never as Janice Brock, so then 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:50.439 one day he finally decides, in like the twenty tens, 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:52.800 he decides to do a search for Janie Brock and 1:14:52.880 --> 1:14:56.120 he finds a composite sketch on a Facebook post that 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:56.720 he thought that. 1:14:56.840 --> 1:14:57.880 Kind of looks like my sister. 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:03.040 Calls the Saint Petersburg police, and then finally in twenty fifteen, 1:15:04.000 --> 1:15:06.519 you know, her body was disinterred in like twenty ten. 1:15:06.560 --> 1:15:08.160 I don't know why this all took so long, but 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:12.720 twenty fifteen, through DNA testing with her brother, they did 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:15.880 identify her finally after forty two years as Janice Murray Brock. 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:18.680 So her brother Timothy lives in North Carolina and he 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:21.040 keeps her ashes with him in his house, so she's. 1:15:20.840 --> 1:15:22.920 Always with him, and he finally found her. 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:25.320 So that's like a little bit I think the brothers 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:28.759 sister and the getting pushed another thing that was listed. 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:35.280 I mean, this episode is obviously based on sex trafficking 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:41.240 in general and human trafficking, but I well, I'll start 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:43.080 with this. So there is an article from two thousand 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:44.800 and four that The New York Times published which was 1:15:44.880 --> 1:15:47.400 like a huge investigative piece into like the big business 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:50.400 of sex slaves and sex trafficking in the US, Mexico 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:53.400 and abroad as well. It tells the stories of a 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.519 lot of young women trafficked from Mexico living as sex slaves. 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:59.080 There's a lot of young women in Ukraine and Russia 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:03.200 who sometimes like paid money to go be nannies in 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:05.479 the US or waitresses in Paris. Like there would be 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:09.640 big like billboards that were like Paris is waiting for you, 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:11.840 just like you know, and then they would end up 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:15.160 going into Mexico where they would get broken down, and 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:18.439 then they would get sold to US buyers a lot 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:21.519 of times. So this article refers to a lot of 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:26.080 these young And this article came out literally right as 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:29.160 this episode dropped, so this was a hot topic in 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:29.880 two thousand and four. 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:32.280 Also, George W. 1:16:32.439 --> 1:16:36.080 Bush made sex trafficking a huge thing, so he's the 1:16:36.120 --> 1:16:39.400 president at the time. So the article refers to the 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:43.439 young victims in as products or purchases in quote. So 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:44.720 I think that's like where we got some of this 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:47.640 inspo for like the title merchandise and for calling them that. 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:50.840 So they also talk about how a. 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.880 Lot of times women play the role of breaking down 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:56.680 the children's psychologically, like they bond with them as mother 1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:59.280 figures and then they crush their spirits. So it's a 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:01.720 lot like the Victoria Raya's character in the episode, Like 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:04.479 most of these women were once victims and then this 1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:08.960 they eventually move into more you know, supervisory roles in 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:11.920 these trafficking circles and stuff, and then the abuse and 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:15.800 cycle of abuse perpetuates and continues. I'm not going to 1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:18.720 recap this entire article because it's twenty years old and 1:17:18.760 --> 1:17:20.360 I'm sure a lot of the info is out of date, 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:22.000 but i will put it in the source list if 1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:25.639 you want to read it. It's like extremely harrowing. It's 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.679 like the stuff in this episode barely touches it. Because 1:17:28.680 --> 1:17:30.519 the stuff in this episode is a lot about the 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:34.800 US is obviously about New York. What's in this article 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:37.080 is a lot about what's happening in Mexico. There's like 1:17:37.280 --> 1:17:41.200 kids being taken as toddlers, as very little children. They 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:46.400 are being forced to do sex work, oh, for dozens 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:49.080 of people a day. And like it's like you were 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:51.360 saying the prices seem cheap for what Micah was doing, 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:54.160 these girls are doing it for four dollars and fifty cents, 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:56.320 Like they're doing it for pesos, Like it's really like 1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:59.600 it's unconscionable. And they're like talking about how much they 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:01.800 could make in a day, and you're like breaking it down. 1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:03.920 You're like, oh, they could make two thousand dollars in 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:05.880 a day, but they're only getting paid four fifty per 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:10.320 john Like that's fucked, Like you know, so four dollars 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:14.519 and fifty cents by the way, So it's really horrible, 1:18:14.920 --> 1:18:17.799 Like it's young girls and boys, they're psychologically and physically 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:19.559 broken down to be sold to sexual objects. 1:18:19.640 --> 1:18:20.759 It's very stomach turning. 1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:24.080 But I realized in reading this article, how much of 1:18:24.160 --> 1:18:27.120 what they've described I've already like seen on SVU, like 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:31.639 you know where, like shipping containers coming over with kids 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:34.400 from other countries, and like even the one of the 1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:37.400 episodes from the first episode of Slaves, you know where 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:40.720 she's kept under the she comes over from Romania and 1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:43.280 she's kept under a bed like by the psychopath. Like 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:49.280 so sview does Do has tackled this subject many times, 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:52.920 and I thought what was interesting is that when I 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:57.120 was reading about it, I found this interview with Neil 1:18:57.240 --> 1:19:00.920 bhar and Gloria Rubin talking about the episode. So this 1:19:01.080 --> 1:19:03.240 interview was on a website that doesn't even exist anymore. 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:04.880 I had to find it in the way back machine. 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:07.880 And what's weird is like there's barely anything to the interview. 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:10.800 It's like two quotes. It's like, how do you like 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:13.280 playing this character to Gloria Rubin, She's like, I mean 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:13.680 pretty good. 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:15.360 I've only done it once before. Like it was just 1:19:15.439 --> 1:19:16.519 such a weird interview. 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:19.800 But then in it, Neil Bhaer talks about how he 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:23.080 was teaching a class at Harvard and talking about sex 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:25.479 trafficking and a student came up to him and was 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:28.920 actually telling him about the farm work, like a lot 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:31.200 of the human trafficking that goes on without the sexual 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:34.080 element that happens right in the US. So Neil bhr 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.240 is quoted as saying, we hear about sex trafficking, which 1:19:36.280 --> 1:19:38.439 is horrendous, but we don't hear as much about trafficking 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.800 where kids are forced to work on farms and work 1:19:40.880 --> 1:19:44.439 for people in their homes, and so I guess that's 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:46.600 what he was trying to bring to the forefront in 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:50.439 this episode. But they definitely just mesh it, like meld 1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:53.639 it with the sexual trafficking that's also going on all 1:19:53.680 --> 1:19:56.519 the time. And I'm sure in real life it can 1:19:56.840 --> 1:20:00.880 cross over. But I found an academic paper while I 1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:04.560 was doing this research called Children in Chains colon on 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:07.880 the Productive and Exploitative Tendencies of Representation in Law and 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:11.679 Order Special Victims Unit by Catherine Hampshire from Ball State University. 1:20:12.040 --> 1:20:14.720 I'm not an academic. I don't know how academic this 1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:17.040 paper is. It looked very nice. It looked like it 1:20:17.120 --> 1:20:19.519 was in a beautiful pdf online, so I don't know, 1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:21.920 you know, like if this person is just like a 1:20:22.000 --> 1:20:24.600 random college student publishing this. But there we was just 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:26.720 some interesting points in it that I wanted to bring up. 1:20:26.840 --> 1:20:31.400 Like in the paper, she talks about how how SVU 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:34.800 talking about this specific branch of trafficking is productive in 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:38.240 that it expands the discourse about trafficking to include children 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:41.479 forced into labor and other practices outside of sex, slavery, 1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:43.960 and prostitution, because that's where a lot of the attention 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:46.720 tends to lie. She also says that it reveals the 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.759 traumatic implications that these experiences can have on their victims 1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:53.479 based on real life experience, Like she quotes a person 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:56.320 who works with real life child trafficking victims named Danielle 1:20:56.680 --> 1:21:00.760 Nico Lescu, who says the analyzed sub jacks show us 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:03.120 that the forms of abuse which the child endured while 1:21:03.160 --> 1:21:06.519 being traffic have disastrous consequences on the emotional balance and 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.240 on the general behavior of children. End quote, which seems obvious, 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:14.400 but that includes Stockholm syndrome, panic, PTSD, anxiety, and often 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:18.080 victims on SVU they show them dealing with these traumatic experiences. 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:20.840 So those were her positives, and then her negatives were 1:21:20.920 --> 1:21:26.000 like showing the kids back and his like bruises and 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:29.960 cuts and stuff. What is exploitative and that can like 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:33.960 that kind of thing would retraumatize a victim, handcuffing him 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:36.280 and acting like that's the only way he can be approached. 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:40.080 Like she had other problems with the episode, but it 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:43.560 was it was, you know, definitely giving props to the 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.880 episode for talking about the farm work part of it. 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:51.439 It's exploitative because I think it shows the viewer, like me, 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:54.800 how fuck fucked fucked up it is and how evil 1:21:54.880 --> 1:21:57.599 they are and the desperation he felt, yeah, for pushing 1:21:57.680 --> 1:22:00.360 his sister, and because it's confusing, and then when you 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:03.000 see these welts and you see that all these other 1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:06.560 children's lives are dependent on you returning Like, yeah, I 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:11.080 think it adds to the vicious like nature of these 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:13.679 fucking criminals and like what these kids are going through. 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:16.120 But you know, I can see where she's coming from. 1:22:16.160 --> 1:22:19.160 I guess yeah, No, I mean totally totally. And SVU 1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:22.519 treads the line of this all the time. I mean, ultimately, 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:24.800 all of this is entertainment. It's all for entertainment, but 1:22:24.880 --> 1:22:27.360 the show does like educate and bring up like so 1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:29.320 much of this article from two thousand and four, which 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.400 I'm sure was a bombshell at the time. I was like, yeah, 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:34.840 I've seen all of this in SVU, Like I've seen 1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:37.439 like all of this, like mothers that are like I 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:39.280 don't know where my child is, or they can talk 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.320 on the phone and they're like mom, like they're in 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:44.320 their parents are in Mexico, they're in Queens and they're like, 1:22:44.360 --> 1:22:45.640 I don't know where I am. I don't know if 1:22:45.640 --> 1:22:47.240 I can ever get back to you. And then this 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:49.920 our article that this guy wrote in The Times, like 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:52.960 is really well researched, Like this man went to dangerous 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:57.799 places to talk to child trafficking victims, to pimps, madams, 1:22:57.920 --> 1:22:59.760 like all kinds of people. He had to go to 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:02.479 places in Mexico where people were like, oh, if you 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:05.479 go there, the cops protect this trafficking ring, like you're 1:23:05.520 --> 1:23:07.040 not going to get any info. And so like he 1:23:07.080 --> 1:23:09.559 would have to go in with like like help from 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:14.040 federal help, like you know, representatives from the Mexican government 1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:16.519 or whatever to try to like get to talk and 1:23:16.600 --> 1:23:21.080 get these facts about this this whole epidemic, and it's 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:26.840 really horrible and I do feel like it's going on still. 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:29.960 There's like all these there's these moms that are like 1:23:30.200 --> 1:23:32.200 in the article that are just naming kids in their 1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:34.880 neighborhoods like oh, yeah, she's gone, she's gone, she's gone. 1:23:34.960 --> 1:23:36.599 Like these girls get pulled off the street. 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:39.519 Like I think that stuff does happen, and I think 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:41.760 it's it was happening in Mexico at that time. A 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:44.240 lot of these rings have been broken up since there 1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:47.720 was a huge Russian Ukrainian one that was that was 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:50.040 broken up in the early two thousands before this article 1:23:50.120 --> 1:23:53.639 came out, so you know, they are working to break 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:55.639 that down. And it's really sad because when they talk 1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:59.160 to a couple of these victims, they are so anonymous, 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:00.880 like there are names or they don't even want their 1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:04.160 initials printed in the article because they're like, I can't 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.479 even deal with what they'll do to my family if 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:08.160 I even get suspected. 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:10.800 But there a lot of them say, you. 1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:12.400 Know, you get to a point where you don't even 1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:14.160 want to go home to your family because you're like, 1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:16.960 who even am I now? Like what will they even 1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:18.960 think of me? Like I've been gone for so long 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:21.200 and this is what I've become. Like it's just so 1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:24.760 sad and dark. But at the same time, like I've 1:24:24.800 --> 1:24:26.840 said it before, I do think that some of the 1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:31.080 child trafficking and sex trafficking shit that has proliferated in 1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:34.519 the US now on TikTok hugely is. 1:24:36.160 --> 1:24:37.879 A lot in a lot of ways garbage. 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:40.240 Like I mean, I've seen videos of women like holding 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:42.200 up a receipt that has a smiley face on it 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:44.519 on TikTok going this is how they this is how 1:24:44.520 --> 1:24:46.920 they track you for trafficking, or like if you find 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.040 a zip tie on the front of your car, don't 1:24:49.080 --> 1:24:52.400 take it off. Someone's trafficking trying to mark you for trafficking. 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:55.920 Like this kind of stuff is crazy, and so I 1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:59.719 as always like to direct people to the you're wrong about. 1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:04.160 So that's called human trafficking'll I've put it in the 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:07.960 sources for this episode, so you can go directly there 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:09.840 to listen to it, because they take they have a 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:14.160 really well rounded view of trafficking, wherein they point out 1:25:14.240 --> 1:25:16.400 what they try to show in this episode, which is 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:20.440 that it's extremely common for people to just be trafficked 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:24.479 for labor and to be mistreated on farms where they 1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:28.320 are forced to work never paid, you know, exposed to 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:34.360 pesticides like, you know, exposed to harmful conditions hypothermia, heat stroke, 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:38.760 like all this stuff, and it's just not necessarily the 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:41.799 they're going to pluck a suburban woman off the streets 1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:45.240 of Chicago, you know, while she's jogging the way that 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:48.479 some people think it is like, and they do a 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:52.240 much better job than I can explaining this and a 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:55.960 lot of the like I was reading in this interview 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:58.080 with Gloria Rubin and Neilbaert that they were like, yeah, 1:25:58.120 --> 1:26:00.759 we really wanted to get out the statistics and stuff 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:03.640 like that. But then that was in two thousand and 1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:06.160 four when this was popping off, and since then, it 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:08.280 feels like a lot of the statistics have been debunked, 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:12.160 you know, like if you call like the nickmic, which 1:26:12.200 --> 1:26:14.439 we have used as a source and as what would 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:17.640 sister PEG do before? The National Center for Exploited and 1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:20.280 Missing Children, they have certain numbers that will come out, 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:23.840 but that's based on people that just call in, and 1:26:23.960 --> 1:26:28.000 if there's a whiff of child trafficking, they will put 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:30.360 that down as someone who's like a child trafficking victim. 1:26:30.479 --> 1:26:33.479 That's not necessarily what's happening. They'll double count people. If 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:35.920 a kid runs away seven times, that kid might be 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:40.160 counted seven times as a runaway who's possibly being child trafficked. 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:42.920 There's just a lot more to it than these huge 1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:46.080 numbers of right now, while we're sitting here, thirty thousand 1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:49.120 kids are being trafficked. It's like not It's not as 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:51.160 cut and dry with these statistics, and a lot of 1:26:51.200 --> 1:26:52.799 them are flawed and have been debunked. 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:55.080 So I think what they did a good job with 1:26:55.439 --> 1:26:59.320 is showing that it's like family that sells you, because 1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:05.400 I it's really easy to get behind the idea that 1:27:06.160 --> 1:27:10.080 some far away traffickers are abusing children, and it's a 1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:13.400 lot harder to believe the children in front of you 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:17.080 that are telling you, they're being abused and mistreated by 1:27:17.479 --> 1:27:21.560 family members, trusted members of community. And that's why I 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:25.000 think with this panic and that you know QAnon movie 1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:28.320 and on TikTok I show up, it's like women grabbing 1:27:28.400 --> 1:27:30.799 their child's foot in a stroller as they're at Target, 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:33.200 so no one takes their kid. And it's like, that's 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:37.120 actually easier to panic about that than to do something 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:40.720 about when your fucking brother is molesting someone or a 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:43.519 grandma sells someone. So it's like, yeah, it kind of 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:47.640 My latest uber driver was a Jehovah's witness and he 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:51.000 was he was really working it. I had to be like, honey, 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:54.800 wrong tree, Like it's not gonna happen. But you know, 1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:58.519 I'm chatty. We're chatting. We're chatting, and then we actually 1:27:58.640 --> 1:28:03.240 start talking about wildly. I bring up I don't know 1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:06.320 how we got here, but about how black women die 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:09.560 giving birth so much, and how fucked up it is 1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:11.920 and how women aren't believed when they go to the 1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:14.560 doctor and that it's dangerous and all this stuff. I 1:28:14.560 --> 1:28:16.400 don't even know how we got there. And he turns 1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:19.120 and he goes, that's what I'm saying. I'm just waiting 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:22.240 for God and to come down and save this for us. 1:28:22.280 --> 1:28:24.720 And it's like, yeah, it's so much easier for you 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:27.439 to do all these missions and work on behalf of 1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:31.240 God this thing that might happen or not, versus actually 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.559 doing actual work to help real people that. 1:28:33.600 --> 1:28:34.200 Are in front of you. 1:28:34.320 --> 1:28:34.519 Yeah. 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:38.160 You know, it's just easier to pretend it's some boogeyman, 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:42.400 but it's the people in your neighborhood. Yeah, And I mean, 1:28:42.479 --> 1:28:42.840 I don't know. 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:47.280 Why it's it's such a huge right wing hot button, 1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:51.520 especially right now with QAnon and everything. That's how Freedom Movie. 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:54.200 And they don't actually have to make real change, they 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:57.800 don't actually have to like even question their part in 1:28:57.880 --> 1:28:58.519 what's happening. 1:28:58.640 --> 1:28:59.439 It's you know. 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:02.840 The other thing is too, is that they touch on 1:29:02.960 --> 1:29:04.920 in this episode of You're Wrong About That. I've always 1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:06.160 am like constantly harping on. 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:07.320 Is that there. 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:09.920 The reason why it's a right wing touching point as 1:29:09.960 --> 1:29:15.520 well is because ultimately human trafficking like gout, like restrictions 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:18.360 and guidelines and all this stuff affects sex workers like 1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:20.679 it it harms sex workers, and they want to shut 1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:24.160 down sex work like that's that. And it's racism as well, 1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:29.720 like where Cindy McCain fall filed a report of human 1:29:29.760 --> 1:29:32.880 trafficking it at the Phoenix Airport because she saw a 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:35.560 mother and a child that were two different ethnicities and 1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:37.920 thought it was a trafficking thing and it was not. 1:29:38.840 --> 1:29:41.120 So it's like, but you know that's a hot button 1:29:41.360 --> 1:29:44.880 issue for these people. Well, and this is an old 1:29:44.920 --> 1:29:48.439 episode of ours, but about Roger Kraft or Robbert Kraft, 1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:50.560 the owner of the Patriots, they talk about this in 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:54.760 that episode. Yeah, like the massage parlors in Florida and 1:29:55.160 --> 1:29:58.320 all these rich dudes and it's like the the raids 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:00.920 happen on to save sex. But at the end of 1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:03.920 the day, the only people really punished were sex workers. 1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:07.160 None of these rich dudes getting handy is and using 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:08.519 sex workers got punished. 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:09.360 They all got free. 1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:12.880 But all these women were on house arrests, deported, jail 1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:16.679 time fees couldn't work, and it was later. 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:19.360 Like what they talk about in this episode also is 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:22.599 that it was discovered later that even the New York 1:30:22.680 --> 1:30:27.000 Times and reputable outlets were reporting on stories by local 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:29.760 cops in that craft bus that were bullshit that were 1:30:29.840 --> 1:30:34.479 later totally proved like bogus. So all of this to say, like, 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:37.679 there are absolutely children being abused all over the world 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:39.920 right now, and it's horrific, and it's like it's so 1:30:40.120 --> 1:30:42.320 hard to like this. The two thousand and four article 1:30:42.360 --> 1:30:46.080 had details that were like absolutely like the New York 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:49.679 Times article that I linked to, it's like absolutely stomach turning, 1:30:49.760 --> 1:30:50.479 as I said. 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:52.200 But also when you think about it and when you 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:55.479 see it in sview episodes, it's like these kids are 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:58.000 like beaten and andre and like out of it, and 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:01.360 it's like that's what you're doing for your bachelor party. 1:31:01.439 --> 1:31:04.599 It's like weird. It's weird to me that that's even 1:31:04.760 --> 1:31:06.840 like an enjoyable. 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:09.240 While they were talking about it too in this in 1:31:09.360 --> 1:31:14.080 the article about how they're a little bit blaming porn, 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:20.040 but they're like the sexual appetite for people is has 1:31:20.120 --> 1:31:25.719 become harder, like more violent, more younger, like just really 1:31:26.400 --> 1:31:28.640 and it's they you know, in the article, they're like 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:32.840 that's what's driving this craze or whatever. Ultimately, it's like, 1:31:34.040 --> 1:31:36.800 I don't know, it's just like I mean, they're talking 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:40.960 in this article a lot about Mexico just like kidnapping 1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:43.960 kids and turning them out and selling them all over 1:31:44.000 --> 1:31:46.960 the place. I don't know how much that's happening domestically 1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:50.120 right in the US, but it's horrific either way. 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:51.519 I just feel like we need to. 1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:57.720 Sort of like, yeah, like let's focus on getting more 1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:00.960 accurate data and like not penalized sex workers and like 1:32:01.080 --> 1:32:04.000 figuring out like I don't even know if these rings 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:07.439 are still happening. I know they were, but in two 1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:09.120 thousand and one it said like they were saying a 1:32:09.160 --> 1:32:10.200 lot of them got broken up. 1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:16.280 So I don't know. People will sell drugs guns other people. 1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:18.040 For money, and I don't know. We have to just 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:20.680 figure out ways to stop that. But I'm certainly not 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:22.880 the person to do that. But I do recommend this 1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:26.800 on podcast episode very highly because it really articulates what 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:29.400 I am being terrible at articulating about this. 1:32:29.520 --> 1:32:32.840 Now you're doing a good job, and I think us 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:40.680 together have made it very clear. But an invisible trafficker 1:32:41.000 --> 1:32:44.160 is easier to panic about than when it's your local 1:32:44.240 --> 1:32:49.560 leaders or church leaders or in your family, and so 1:32:49.680 --> 1:32:52.439 it gives people the sense that they're doing something positive 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:55.880 and they're not. You don't have to hold your baby's 1:32:55.880 --> 1:33:02.719 ankle at target, but okay, yeah, check. 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:05.479 Your receipts guys, they're coming for you. We will be 1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:08.160 back in a sec with our post mortem. 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:15.240 Well that was a troubling episode. Thanks for listening to 1:33:15.360 --> 1:33:18.439 that one. Yeah, I guess people are for sale and 1:33:18.600 --> 1:33:20.920 people will buy a baby and raise it to. 1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:23.360 Be its victim. I think that was the most horrifying 1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:25.519 for me. I didn't know that. Well. 1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:30.160 I hope that that's truly like a rare occurrence and 1:33:30.360 --> 1:33:34.200 like not like a more of a boogeyman thing than anything, 1:33:34.320 --> 1:33:37.200 because it's like you'd have to be very wealthy. 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:41.320 So it's a printing. Yeah, yeah, like I'm sure it's happened, but. 1:33:41.400 --> 1:33:43.840 It's yeah, you have to be quite rich to make 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:46.400 that happen, or just sick. I mean the prices we 1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:47.720 hear aren't even a lot. 1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:50.679 Like that's the thing. It's like they work, these fucking kids. 1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:56.120 It just really it's a disaster because we're all, you knows, 1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:58.080 those hierarchy of needs. We're all allowed to have bad 1:33:58.160 --> 1:34:00.320 days and like be upset by what's happened in our 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:02.560 own lives. But if you just take one second to 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:08.160 think about the global population, it is like, well, miracle 1:34:08.240 --> 1:34:09.000 the life we're living. 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.400 Yeah, And it's also just like the more and more 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:15.400 I think about reproductive rights. I'm not saying like any 1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:17.840 of these children should like not exist. I'm just saying that, 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:20.519 like I think a lot of times it's like children 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:24.120 are born into like cycles of violence, They're born into poverty, 1:34:24.120 --> 1:34:28.240 They're born into like like like situations where reproductive freedom 1:34:28.320 --> 1:34:31.240 like was not available to the families, and it really 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:34.720 does just like affect poorer populations. And then it's like 1:34:34.800 --> 1:34:38.920 we've got children turning tricks because their families just like 1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:42.600 like are desperate or whatever, you know what I mean. Like, 1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:46.479 so I just feel like these these the communities of 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:51.439 you know that are facing economic hardships are disproportionately affected 1:34:51.520 --> 1:34:56.600 by you know, either religious or political pressure to. 1:34:57.120 --> 1:34:59.160 Have kids no matter what, and this and that. 1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:01.840 And then it's like we just have thousands of these 1:35:01.920 --> 1:35:04.000 kids that are just like you know, being forced into 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:06.720 labor or forced into sex work, forced into something you 1:35:06.800 --> 1:35:10.600 know well, and that family like you know, it was 1:35:10.720 --> 1:35:13.800 medical bills that got them in And there's just no 1:35:14.000 --> 1:35:18.799 safety net in this country for anything like one illness 1:35:18.920 --> 1:35:22.280 can destroy you one job loss, one layoff. And that's 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:24.960 why as a society, I'm so confused why we treat 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:28.160 homeless people so poorly when we're all just like one 1:35:28.400 --> 1:35:31.760 terrible thing away from yeving on the streets, and we 1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:35.479 treat them like ah, like they deserve, Like I really 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:38.360 will never understand a person that sees someone sleeping outside 1:35:38.439 --> 1:35:42.559 and has nothing but like compassion and sad like of like, fuck, 1:35:42.880 --> 1:35:45.559 that must suck, Like I really don't understand the people 1:35:45.600 --> 1:35:47.960 that are like put the migrants on a bus and 1:35:48.120 --> 1:35:49.719 ship them over there, Like I don't. 1:35:50.120 --> 1:35:53.120 I will never understand that. Like no, I was just 1:35:53.240 --> 1:35:54.160 reading that about this. 1:35:54.360 --> 1:35:56.200 I was just reading like a random instagram about a 1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:58.639 woman who was like I had savings, I was doing great. 1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:01.240 I got into a car accident that completely fucked my 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:04.040 life up. Couldn't work, couldn't do this, And now is 1:36:04.200 --> 1:36:08.800 like living you know, on snap and in government housing. 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:10.759 It's like it truly is so close. 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:15.839 Everybody is so close to losing everything from one catastrophic event. 1:36:15.880 --> 1:36:18.479 You know, hopefully not this Christmas. 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:22.240 Yeah, you know, this is a perfect, perfect holiday season 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:25.719 episode to just talk about the horrors of the fucking world. 1:36:25.920 --> 1:36:28.240 And it is like overwhelming. When I was reading this article, 1:36:28.280 --> 1:36:31.040 I was like, there's so much information here. The numbers 1:36:31.080 --> 1:36:34.000 are so staggering. They're so overwhelming. It's like I can't 1:36:34.000 --> 1:36:36.760 even start to think about how many children are just 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:39.240 in horrible situations. 1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:40.600 All over the world because I have it, like I 1:36:40.680 --> 1:36:42.960 shut off, you know, we have to. 1:36:43.080 --> 1:36:45.200 I mean they say that like our brains weren't meant 1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:48.120 for this much information, Like we shouldn't be knowing everything 1:36:48.160 --> 1:36:48.599 we're knowing. 1:36:48.720 --> 1:36:50.479 It's like, that's so I think we're all going nuts. 1:36:50.520 --> 1:36:52.679 It's it's it's too much to handle. 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:56.719 But also I feel like when we first started the podcast, 1:36:57.200 --> 1:37:00.760 we'd be like, oh, it's this holiday, well match, and 1:37:00.840 --> 1:37:03.800 now we're like, here's a human trafficking one Merry Christmas, 1:37:04.520 --> 1:37:07.439 you filthy animals. Yeah, let's do that. 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:09.480 Let's do the one where Live goes to the Bahamas 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:13.400 because it's Christmas time. No, we're just doing merchandise because 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:16.400 you capitalists all just gave your kids up on job presents. 1:37:17.160 --> 1:37:19.519 I did like this is outdated now, but I did 1:37:19.680 --> 1:37:21.600 like the kind of fuck you for Black Friday that 1:37:21.720 --> 1:37:25.400 was exciting where the sales weren't good and people weren't shopping, 1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:28.479 there were no lines and everyone's like, honestly, go fuck yourselves, 1:37:28.560 --> 1:37:31.360 and that was just stop. Just no one even went online. 1:37:31.520 --> 1:37:33.600 No one went on I didn't because usually I do 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:36.080 online Monday. There was nothing. 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:39.760 It did not really I that was cool. Oh yeah 1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:40.479 I heard. 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:43.839 I thought I heard cyber Monday people were like spending, 1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:46.920 but like, yeah, I think the like pushing each other 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:48.679 down for flat screens at a Walmart. 1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:50.080 It's not really happening anymore. 1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:54.200 Like no, because but like there's also like buy nothing 1:37:54.280 --> 1:37:56.679 groups and like you know, I'm in these mom groups 1:37:56.720 --> 1:37:58.960 where people are trading very valuable stuff all the time 1:37:59.040 --> 1:38:00.920 and selling it for less and blah blah blah. Like 1:38:01.360 --> 1:38:03.200 so I just think there's a lot of other ways 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:05.600 besides like you know, getting trampled at three in the 1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:09.479 morning on Thanksgiving morning, that you can do. And I 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:11.679 like that some stores are taking a stand and saying 1:38:11.720 --> 1:38:13.519 we're just not gonna be open on Thanksgiving. We're gonna 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:17.599 let our staff actually enjoy the holiday. So but like, yeah, 1:38:17.760 --> 1:38:20.280 just start giving deals out like the way Amazon does 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:22.880 Prime Day or whatever. Start giving deals out the beginning 1:38:22.920 --> 1:38:25.960 of the middle of Thanksgiving and have them go till Christmas. 1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:28.519 You're gonna get your sales. We don't need Black Feast. Yeah, 1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:31.760 do what Amazon does, but you know what it just 1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:33.640 have it be a long period of sales. So it's 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:35.960 just like you're giving people sales, people are buying shit, 1:38:36.000 --> 1:38:38.400 you're simulating the economy, and nobody's fighting each other. 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:39.240 Yeah. 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:40.640 That goes for a little store too. 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:41.360 You know. 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:44.679 I got to make my way over to a little 1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:46.479 store in the middle of LA because I just heard 1:38:46.520 --> 1:38:47.840 a girl I went to high school with owns a 1:38:47.880 --> 1:38:49.719 little toy store and she doesn't do online sales. 1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:53.280 Wow. Yeah, it's over a miracle mile. I gotta go 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:53.800 check it out. 1:38:54.320 --> 1:38:58.439 Anyway, Guys, take care of your children, keep them close. Jesus, 1:38:58.640 --> 1:39:00.439 there's so much horror in the world. That's the post 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:02.479 mortem on this episode. Let's get to what would Sister 1:39:02.520 --> 1:39:05.240 Peg Do, where we try to hug kel. Yeah, we 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:06.840 try to help a little bit with what would Sister 1:39:06.880 --> 1:39:08.840 Peg Do. This is our weekly segment where we direct 1:39:08.880 --> 1:39:13.560 you towards a book, an organization, an article, something to 1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:16.120 give you more info about what we talked about today. 1:39:16.160 --> 1:39:18.479 And you guys know, I can't stop fucking talking about 1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:20.439 this podcast you're wrong about and so I wanted to 1:39:20.479 --> 1:39:24.120 direct you specifically to their direct their episode about human trafficking. 1:39:24.680 --> 1:39:26.280 I brought it up so many times on the show. 1:39:26.439 --> 1:39:28.960 The episode does a really great job of highlighting how 1:39:29.080 --> 1:39:33.000 sex trafficking numbers are overblown, and how like the idea 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:36.479 of stranger danger got sort of pushed out again during 1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:38.840 the Bush administration, and that's more of a boogeyman and 1:39:38.880 --> 1:39:41.400 that stuff like what we see in this episode, children 1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:44.800 being forced into labor is much more prevalent and much 1:39:44.880 --> 1:39:46.839 more and harder to police. 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:50.280 And you know, so listen to that episode. 1:39:50.400 --> 1:39:52.800 It is linked in our show notes, and we'll be 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:55.960 posted on our Instagram stories the day this episode comes 1:39:55.960 --> 1:39:59.320 out and then saved forever in our WWSPD highlight that's 1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:01.559 on our instagum, which is that's messed up pod. 1:40:01.600 --> 1:40:03.560 If you're not following us on Instagram, what are you 1:40:03.600 --> 1:40:04.880 doing with your life? 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