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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy, episode

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Speaker 1: one of Dirty Guys production of I Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's shared consciousness. Is Monday, January nine, three, which of

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Speaker 1: course means hold on, why why is it my calendar loading?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shouts out to Michael Jordan every time and

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Speaker 1: young lebron A, young Greezy, Young Braun. Oh yes, January nine,

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Speaker 1: International Choreographers Day five, six, seven, and eight. Get into it.

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Speaker 1: Hit that coreo, National Balloon Ascension Day, National NAW, the

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Speaker 1: law enforcement of National Clean off your Desk Day. I

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Speaker 1: will never do that, National Apricot Day, and National Static

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Speaker 1: Electricity Day. Hell yeah, yeah, feeling that balloons and static

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Speaker 1: electricity they go together. So there's something yeah, sent and

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Speaker 1: day just like let your balloons go well, the images

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Speaker 1: of all hot air balloons. So it commemorates the first

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Speaker 1: balloon flights in the United States in all we had

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Speaker 1: for a little while. Yeah, not not in my lifetime, okay,

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Speaker 1: I name. People like to suggest that I was around

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Speaker 1: for a pre Wright Brothers era of air travel. Not true,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they used to do like scouting missions in

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Speaker 1: the civil war and hot air balloons. That's how it's

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Speaker 1: just bad at everything. Everyone was so they would just

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Speaker 1: like take it, take it up and be like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, what do you see battlefield from over here?

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Speaker 1: It looks pretty gruesome. It seems easy to chew out

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Speaker 1: with this guy. Anyways. My name, well it's Jack O'Brien a.

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Speaker 1: When you're on a ha day, you might find a

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Speaker 1: price to pay all that drink and mountain do. The

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Speaker 1: sugar will grow on you on an island in the sun.

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Speaker 1: Get these plumpers, big as fuck. Sugar makes me feel

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Speaker 1: so fine I can't control my brain. Hip hip that

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Speaker 1: is courtesy oh Lex LUVII, Mr Ubus. Appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles Miles Greg. Okay, I love Jerry's pizzeria.

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Speaker 1: I love Lambeaux a ba ball. When I tweeted this

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Speaker 1: to Greta, she said, I got tying your balls. I'm

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Speaker 1: the Manispee Messiah, I'm the king of all the clowns.

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Speaker 1: But they put my ass in halcuffs Andday took me down. Okay,

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Speaker 1: shout out to shift in Er and Tate or Andrew Tate,

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Speaker 1: whatever your name is, Peace out to you. It's Miles great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Salvador Jolly on the discord. And also

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Speaker 1: I want to give it a little announcement. I have

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Speaker 1: a bit of a new a k a. That I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be entering soon. Okay, call me big Daddy Gray,

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Speaker 1: father of this child. Because look, I've been keeping it low,

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Speaker 1: but some of you who follow you know, people on

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Speaker 1: social media, may have found out that I am expecting

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Speaker 1: my first child and I'm very excited. Uh it could

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Speaker 1: happen quite literally at any moment. So if I suddenly

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Speaker 1: take off for parental leave, know that it's to celebrate

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Speaker 1: my impending parenthood. So shout out to her majesty as well.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting to the both of you. Thank the parents.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And this is not a joke. I don't

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Speaker 1: have the time. I say ship. Since you're on here,

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Speaker 1: people go oh, I thought he was sucking around. No,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, looks, I can people recognize that you're

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Speaker 1: a funny person who wouldn't tell an unfunny joke. It's

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Speaker 1: like bad dude, And I'm like, have a kid, good one? Alright?

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Speaker 1: What else? What else? What else? I do? Appreciate that

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Speaker 1: you waited for just the right Andrew t a K

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Speaker 1: to announce. I don't know why. A part of me

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Speaker 1: was like, do I do that? But I also had

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Speaker 1: my eye on this a K. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta hit that out the way too well, but

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Speaker 1: I'll just hit the man up with some good uh fatherhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so exactly have to. Yeah. Also, man, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: every moment I have in my house where like it's quiet,

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Speaker 1: I'm realized, it's the last time my house is gonna

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Speaker 1: sound like that. You know what. It's actually pretty quiet

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Speaker 1: in the early months because the baby sleeps a lot.

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Speaker 1: I guess they're kind of like I like it. I

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Speaker 1: was liking it, likning into somebody like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm in like saving private Ryan, Like on a D

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Speaker 1: Day landing craft. We're like we're about to hit the

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Speaker 1: shore and I'm like, yo, it's coming, it's coming. But

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Speaker 1: I'm like kissing my cross and ship like here we

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Speaker 1: call and just in a room quietly by yourself, shouting

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Speaker 1: let's go. That's like everything all right, and then that's

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Speaker 1: fucking go. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Anyways, appropriate we may not

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Speaker 1: we have the most appropriate guests. We're thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by one of the classics,

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Speaker 1: an early guest, one of one of our favorites, one

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Speaker 1: of your favoritess been way too long since he's been on.

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Speaker 1: He's a hilarious actor improviser who writes on TV shows

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Speaker 1: like Grand Crew, video Games, TV shows about video games.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome thought dead trademark. It's if he want away, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: a k A. If he should coo. Every time I

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Speaker 1: check my bank account, if he should coo, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even believe my bank amount. If he should cool, I

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Speaker 1: kept coming up the home goddamn my amount. If he

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Speaker 1: should goog, I made it. And sometimes I forget that

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Speaker 1: I'm famous, just like I'm Amos. Turn around. It's the

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Speaker 1: worst little Ouzi first two he ruined a baby Team song.

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Speaker 1: But beside that, beside that bar, it's it's actually the worst,

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Speaker 1: just bar the verse itself. Okay that bar. He made

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Speaker 1: a famous Amos reference in the Year of Our Lord.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I'm here, dad in me sees the dad

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Speaker 1: in You're like to pack my kids lunch. You're right,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm laying for school, You're like, hold on,

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Speaker 1: let me put on. I just want to rock by

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Speaker 1: LUSI very ready for this one boo boo that that

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Speaker 1: song goes that being as good as it is, but

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Speaker 1: it is. I have a question for your dad's out

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Speaker 1: here is it? Do you how often are you like

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Speaker 1: when when you're trying to like rock a baby, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Are you? Do you ever just

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Speaker 1: wrap a verse? Like because I feel like people have

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Speaker 1: baby appropriate songs, but I have so many rap verses

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Speaker 1: could be like, you know, I could just lean into it,

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's my baby. I rock a fly

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Speaker 1: baby in the summertime for sure. Okay. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: look they're they're so young, they're not even gonna remember

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Speaker 1: all the words you're using. So you can just go

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Speaker 1: full explicit on that rock in the first few years,

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Speaker 1: pretend I know the whole rap god verse by eminem

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Speaker 1: You don't always spending that ship perfect when you were

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Speaker 1: a baby. Yeah, you just don't remember it because you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely like more of my brain is Dr

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Speaker 1: Seuss ship now, Like I just realized, actually, like we

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like some silly you know ship, and

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Speaker 1: I realized, I know all of doctors who's ABC's like

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Speaker 1: by heart you can just like spit that back, which

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Speaker 1: for sure, A TOWI a Talian music down the river

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Speaker 1: that's right if you how are you doing? Man, it's

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Speaker 1: been way too long. Yeah, I know it's been way

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Speaker 1: too long. It's you know, I've been trying to squeeze

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Speaker 1: quick runner last year because I was doing Twisted Metal

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Speaker 1: Twisted Metal is back in Grand Crew. But now I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm chilling. Um, you know, you know, you're

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Speaker 1: developing some stuff, you know, inside baseball. But you know,

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Speaker 1: just like, you know, like neck deep in writing a

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm back on my gym routine and part

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Speaker 1: of my gym routine, which you know this If you

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Speaker 1: don't know this already, uh you know ZiT gang. If

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Speaker 1: you are on Spotify, you can do the Daily Drive.

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Speaker 1: That's that's my ship. And what they do when you

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Speaker 1: do the Daily Drive is they mix in the NPR

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Speaker 1: kind of like Daily up first, and then it goes

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Speaker 1: into your your music playlist and then they'll pick like

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Speaker 1: figured out that I'm a leftist, so then it goes

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Speaker 1: to marketplace. Then it'll place more playlists, and then if

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Speaker 1: with nprs kind of up next updates, which is great.

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Speaker 1: So why are you trying to hold on? Man? I

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Speaker 1: just told you I was having a kid, and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to take money out of his mouth. Okay right there,

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Speaker 1: because you know we have a morning show too, and

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Speaker 1: also give music recommendations. But yes, hut oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: see what I can do to pull some strings. Also,

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Speaker 1: Grand crewel is dope. I gotta tell you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I can consitantly say this next season is gonna be funnier,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think you know, if you if

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Speaker 1: and second season we were able to just go, like,

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Speaker 1: what's the funniest ship we can do? I feel like

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Speaker 1: Pipe Jerry or Jerry pipe joke. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: I was like, and then when they when we saw

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Speaker 1: pipe Jerry, I was like, no, y'all got the right one,

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Speaker 1: because boys buff, but that guy was shredded. That was Jerry.

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Speaker 1: That was Wait, tell the pipe Jerry joke? What is it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So Nikki and her phone has uh pipe Jerry and

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Speaker 1: Jerry pipe. One is a handyman, one is a stripper,

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Speaker 1: and she calls the stripper up when she wanted the handyman,

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Speaker 1: but he comes in as a handyman, so you think

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Speaker 1: it's him, and he just starts getting it. He's I

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Speaker 1: just loved Jerry Pipe and pipe to find balance. Yes,

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Speaker 1: more energetically like acknowledging, like yeah, man, all good, Like

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Speaker 1: you could like what you like. I like what I like.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make me cooler. That doesn't make you cooler,

426
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Speaker 1: because I think the other thing too is you get

427
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: caught up in people's opinions. Are like, oh the cool

428
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Speaker 1: people think this or that, and now I want to

429
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Speaker 1: be like that. Just do you much easier, much less stressed,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, all right, let's take

431
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Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll come back, we'll hear what you're underrated,

432
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Speaker 1: and we're back and if he as you know, we

433
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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests not just what's overratable, what's underrated?

434
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Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated. Boy, boy, boy, let

435
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Speaker 1: me let me tell you we're staying. This is gonna

436
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Speaker 1: be a very cinephile over under for me because I

437
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: gotta put on Nanny. It's called Nanny Nothing Nanny. It

438
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: came out last year. I saw that Sun Dance. It

439
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: was directed by Nick yahto JUICEU, and it's about an

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Speaker 1: African woman who hopes her new job as a nanny

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Speaker 1: will help bring her young son to the United States.

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Speaker 1: And it's this like very like I was just I'm

443
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Speaker 1: gonna say, it's like a thriller slash whorese. It's very

444
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Speaker 1: slow paced, taps into African mythology once it really gets going,

445
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of beautiful visuals. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: Rena Yang who did the cinematography. And I think it

447
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: kind of flew under the radar. To me, it was

448
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Speaker 1: the best film that came out of Sundance that year.

449
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: And then you know it was Amazon who bought it,

450
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Speaker 1: so it was on Prime Video, which you know they

451
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: if it ain't Jack Reacher, you ain't gonna hear about uh.

452
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: You know, good just just disappears, goes there to not exist.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's like they put budget in like promoting

454
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Speaker 1: like three shows, like we knew about Ring of Power,

455
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: we knew about the Wheel of Time, and we know

456
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Speaker 1: about Jack Reacher. But are so many movies that go

457
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Speaker 1: there that fly into the radar. So if you have

458
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Speaker 1: Prime video, which I'm sure you probably do because we

459
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Speaker 1: all have Prime even though we don't funk with bezos

460
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: like that. We like getting our ship in two days

461
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: that you just can't beat it. And like I said, bezos,

462
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: if you want to wint us over, use that money

463
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: and solve world hunger, stop using the lip service. I

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Speaker 1: love that he did read the room though he was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting rid of my million. I'm don't,

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Speaker 1: don't I'm giving it away. What if I get? What

467
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Speaker 1: if I gave these people three million dollars right now?

468
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: They're like, more out of your pocket? What are you

469
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Speaker 1: talking about? It was just funny to see a billionaire

470
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Speaker 1: one of them finally read the room and was like, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and I'm telling you I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you. I promise you if you use that money

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Speaker 1: to solve world hunger or any any global crisis, I

474
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Speaker 1: swear to God you will be able to put as

475
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Speaker 1: much dumb ship in space you can build any mecca.

476
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Speaker 1: I promise you we won't say anything. I've been saying

477
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Speaker 1: this every time I've been on the pod. You don't

478
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Speaker 1: even got a credit me. Just solve one global crisis

479
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Speaker 1: and I problem. People ain't gonna be pressed about you

480
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Speaker 1: doing whatever the funk you want with the rest of

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Speaker 1: your billions. It's easy. I'm telling you, I got I

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Speaker 1: got the SECRETI yeah, yeah, yeah, just one. If you

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Speaker 1: did one global crisis, I promise you, no one's even

484
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Speaker 1: gonna because because the bar is in Hell, you would

485
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Speaker 1: be basically Jesus and you could. But yeah, Nanny, check

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Speaker 1: that out. It's on Prime video. It's it's I really

487
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Speaker 1: like it. I think people it's it's a very weird,

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Speaker 1: kind of heavy, slow moving thing that I think, uh

489
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Speaker 1: usually is reserved for a lot of white stories. And

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Speaker 1: I think because people are expecting something more, and they're

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Speaker 1: expecting it to say something more, because you know, I

492
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: think we're in this we're still in this black renaissance

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Speaker 1: of cinema, but I think we're trying to break out

494
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Speaker 1: of that that that get out effect where I think

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Speaker 1: people really liked that it was this great black story

496
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Speaker 1: that kind of spoke to racism in a very specific,

497
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: very understandable way. And so whenever you have these kind

498
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Speaker 1: of prestige black movies, you have viewers waiting for that,

499
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: and if they don't get it, they're like, well, what

500
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: was this about? And it's like, we can just exist, right,

501
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: and and this movie does tackle those things, but it

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00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: tackles it on a more like subtle microaggression way that

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Speaker 1: I think we'll fly over some people's heads. Just based

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Speaker 1: on what some people have said coming out of Sundance.

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00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you just didn't see it, because now

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00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: we're now we know the big race, we know that,

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00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: don't say the hard art, we know that, don't be

508
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: prejudice aspect of it. So now we're trying to get

509
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: you all to understand the levels. And now y'all are

510
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: missing that because y'all not looking for that, doing that

511
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: you ready for? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Some kind

512
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: of that writer seemed real angry or something, you know.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm coming into the hot from over under.

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Speaker 1: We ain't even got to the news stories yet, know,

515
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just already just throwing blows. But some good,

516
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Speaker 1: some good stuff. To watch this. Yeah, nanny sounds good.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the news. Pete Buddha judge

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Speaker 1: it Miles. I think you referenced this last week in

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Speaker 1: our first episode back. But you know, Secretary of Transportation

520
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to him, nobody's looking at him. Where it turns out,

521
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: so if you only watch mainstream news, it'll look like

522
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: only Fox News is looking at him. But basically investigative

523
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: journalist took a look at like dug into some communications,

524
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Speaker 1: did some foy in, and up to one million travelers

525
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Speaker 1: were stranded by Southwest Airlines over the holiday season. This

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Speaker 1: investigative journalist uncovered documents showed that showed that Democratic state

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Speaker 1: officials and congressional lawmakers had repeatedly begged Buddha gedge too

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Speaker 1: tough and rules to deter airlines from mistreating their customers essentially,

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Speaker 1: which you know, and Southwest stranded all those people and

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Speaker 1: didn't was just like yeah, sorry, I mean, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to say? Guess like your bags are in

532
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Speaker 1: l a somewhere just going down. Just look for them.

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00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh y'all got the same bag? Whoops? Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: It is interesting because all during that time, if you

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Speaker 1: watch like CNN or MSNBC or whatever, they're like gridlock,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? It's Southwest? And that was sort of

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Speaker 1: like the the depth of like the analysis was just like,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Folks? Seems like a real

539
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: bummer out there without actually telling people like who who

540
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: could do something about this? This seems all bad, right.

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00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: It seems like they're just doing whatever they want. Where

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00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: are the regulations where the regulators is the only he's

543
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: the sole airline regulator under federal law, but they wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: They didn't cover that on any of the mainstream is

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Speaker 1: also Southwest Airlines experienced a similar meltdown a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and this latest meltdown was made possible or actually they

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Speaker 1: like interviewed this economist William McGee who said Southwest was

548
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Speaker 1: inevitable after Buddha Judge failed to punish awful behavior all year,

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Speaker 1: So he's not acting to protect consumers, to protect the

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Speaker 1: American people, which is like you know that ship happens,

551
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, ship gets missed, People loose focus or like

552
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: not good at their jobs. But the thing that's truly

553
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: kind of outrageous about this is that nobody like as

554
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Speaker 1: this investigative journalism was uncovering this and reporting it in Jacobin.

555
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: The it was only being covered by Fox News, the

556
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: New York Post, News, Max House, Republicans, Donald Trump Jr.

557
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: Was like retweeting it, so you would like, I was

558
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: under the assumption, Okay, so this is probably a bullshit

559
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: story until you see that the sourcing goes back to

560
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: just good old school journalism and you know, uncovering somebody

561
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: not helping people where they could have. And there were

562
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: also these articles like one newspaper openly ridiculed attacks on

563
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Speaker 1: Buddha Judges record, pretending critics were ignoring the simple reality

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Speaker 1: that his department does not have direct control over airlines.

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Speaker 1: That was that was, I think that was. The Independent

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Speaker 1: wrote that The Independent wrote that ship, oh yeah, literally

567
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: the airline regulator. The Independent wrote that The Hill wrote

568
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: that criticism of Buddha Judge is just petty Bernie Sanders bros.

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: Who are like mad at him from the the Prime. Yeah,

570
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, there's just this is just leftist bullshit.

571
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: They're just mad because he beat Sanders and the Prime.

572
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: First of all, Sanders did better than him in the primaries,

573
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I think, But it wasn't Besides the point, like the

574
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's such a like our team versus their

575
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: team environment. It's really fucking shipped up right now, like

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00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: it's and it gives Fox the ability, like it gives

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00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: them the ability to point to ways that the mainstream

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00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: media and the Democratic Party are lying and like just

579
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Speaker 1: like there are actual conspiracies happening that they get to

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Speaker 1: point to and then be like and therefore, also vaccines

581
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: are bad. You know, like, what else aren't they telling you?

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Speaker 1: If Pete Buddha Jadge who's from mackenzie and they're the

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Speaker 1: ones who even told airlines to be able to get

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Speaker 1: become more profitable through extra fees to passengers, and now

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: he works at the Department of Transportation, then what's really

586
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: going on. It's like it's a soldier and Capitalism's invisible army.

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00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, he was probably a CIA op or CIA

588
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: connected at some point he worked for McKenzie, which is

589
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: basically like the financial wing of the CIA, And fucking yeah,

590
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: he's just working on behalf of massive corporations against the

591
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: best interests of American people. And it's like, you you

592
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: need a media that is willing to point that out,

593
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: that is not getting caught lying about that ship if

594
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna get through these next ten years where people

595
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: actually have to like change their lifestyles in order to

596
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: prevent the end of the world. You know, like we

597
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: we need a better system than this where it's just

598
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: like our team versus their team, and we have to

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Speaker 1: protect the blue guy who might run for president four years. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's kind of what I've felt. You know,

601
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Speaker 1: if you haven't been in tuned in with my Twitter,

602
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I did last year accidentally delete all of my tweets,

603
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: but there was a tweet I had rest in Peace

604
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: that I was I was like, we need to move

605
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: past like the the this like political tribalism and be

606
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: more agnostic and really start to take stuff in on

607
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: a case by case basis, because yeah, it is you know,

608
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Speaker 1: Ever since someone kind of like pointed out to look

609
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: out for political theater, it really has uh like turned

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Speaker 1: all my spiky senses because pee Bote is the best

611
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: at that, you know, he you know, he was the

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Speaker 1: quickest to make sure all the cameras were there and

613
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: when he was yelling about bald which is you know,

614
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: which was warranted. But you know there's the part where

615
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: you agree with him and you're like yeah. And then

616
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: there's the part where you're like, well, how how much

617
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: is this optics and how much is this like actual

618
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: anger because Pete Boutej, you know, has a history of

619
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Speaker 1: being the the guy who was like very visibly outrage

620
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Speaker 1: and in the same way he did it with Southwest,

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Speaker 1: and now you're kind of seeing it in a very

622
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: explosive way where he was like, you know, very ramped

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00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: up and talking about how he's looking in the Southwest

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00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: and how angry. And now we have receipts that is

625
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, with the hot dogs suit, You're you're the

626
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Speaker 1: hot dog suit guy. We're all trying to find the

627
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: guy who did this, and it was like it was

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Speaker 1: you and it's because you were told about this and

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Speaker 1: you just kind of didn't do anything or that your

630
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: or your reflexes are like I don't rock the profit boat. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing I know from coming up. You

632
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Speaker 1: don't rock the profit boat. If anything, you tell them

633
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Speaker 1: how to make the profit boat bigger, but don't rock

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Speaker 1: the profit boat. That's not what we do. And to

635
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Speaker 1: your point about the tribal ism, like people who get

636
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Speaker 1: so caught up in the blue no matter who or whatever.

637
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: You're basically seating your ability to define your own values

638
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Speaker 1: by by by by having to put them through this

639
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: lens of what does the big D Democrat party think

640
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Speaker 1: of a of an issue and whatever that is? That's

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00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: what I think, because that's usually how I mean. That's

642
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: how I was radicalized, slowly from like a teenager on

643
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: just to hear you know, from my parents, Well, what

644
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: do you what do you think should work? Well this? Okay,

645
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: what party is doing that? Well? Neither of them? Okay,

646
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: so you disagree there, but not rather than like, should

647
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Speaker 1: I conform my desire to have like a more efficient

648
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote justice system, or from are actually tackling the

649
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: problem of the carcetral state, Like, if that's a value

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Speaker 1: to me, I'm not gonna budge from that because that's

651
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Speaker 1: what that's the world I want to see. So if

652
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: I just go, oh, yeah, well the the blue guy

653
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: is not really feeling that, and I'm like, okay, fine,

654
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: as long as he's blue, I can abandon this thing

655
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: that I have, this value that I hold. That's when

656
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: ship gets slippery and you end up, like in a

657
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: situation like this, probably having a feeling of going, well,

658
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: you know what, it's really fucked up that airline can

659
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: completely go, you know, be completely backwards as a business

660
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Speaker 1: strand all these people not give them refunds during like

661
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the Hall of a Day season where people's travel time

662
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: is very precious, And you know what, I'm not gonna

663
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: get mad about it because I'm Team Blue and even

664
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: though that's on us, I'm not really here to get

665
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: mad at the team because that's more important to me

666
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: than like my stated values or what I believe as

667
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Speaker 1: a person. And I think that's really hard because the

668
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: other part of it is, like you're saying, Jack, you're

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Speaker 1: not educating people like on how ship works, like just

670
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Speaker 1: about basic civics lesson like if you have people rampantly

671
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Speaker 1: being like I saw in that same Independent article they

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Speaker 1: were like showing like and even Democrats are saying, like,

673
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's not his fault. Where someone's like one

674
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: of these democratic influencers, like I mean, boot Pete Buddha

675
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: Jadge isn't the CEO of like the Storm, What do

676
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: they expect him to do? It's all yeah, teaching them

677
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: not just to like not educate and not but it's

678
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Speaker 1: teaching them to ignore and to like you know, do

679
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: these mental gymnastics at a time where like it's really

680
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Speaker 1: dangerous for we're supposed to be like learning how to

681
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Speaker 1: learn some very difficult truths. Like right now the world

682
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: is in a very you know phasing the next ten

683
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Speaker 1: twenty years where mass extinction. Yeah, we're facing the sixth

684
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Speaker 1: mass extinction. We're going to need to get through to people.

685
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: And we're teaching them to like do this sort of

686
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: mental gymnastics just to get on board with the right

687
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: team because we think that they're the better of too

688
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: bad alternatives. It just doesn't We're no longer in a

689
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: place where that's viable. And in fact, this is like

690
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Speaker 1: very dangerous because you're teaching them how to ignore, you're

691
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: teaching them how to like you know, swallow these lies

692
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: and like you know, argue on behalf of them. He's

693
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Speaker 1: not the CEO of the storm. And it gets fascism

694
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Speaker 1: ground to stand on. And fascism is the thing in

695
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: the United States that keeps coming. The left gets gets ignored,

696
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: it gets dismissed, the you know body politic is allergic

697
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: to leftism. Fascism keeps coming in this country and it's

698
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming. And that's we're we're in a really

699
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Speaker 1: dangerous position if we can if we don't have any

700
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Speaker 1: mainstream media that actually is willing to tell the truth

701
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: about this ship. Yeah, because everyone's keeping score. Yeah yeah,

702
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: And I mean it even kind of leads into this

703
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Speaker 1: next story about like just like because this is the

704
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Speaker 1: kind of this is the kind of world that like

705
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Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlson need where people have completely given

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Speaker 1: up on the ability of government to do anything. Because

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Speaker 1: that's truly again, how like you're saying that makes you

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Speaker 1: more open to more extreme solutions because you'll be like, yeah,

709
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: we already tried this government like democratic ship. What's this

710
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: other guy saying? Oh yeah, I like I like his

711
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: funk them up attitude. This might work. And Fox is

712
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: in the they're in a really interesting like situation again,

713
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Speaker 1: as the speaker fight keeps going, like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Kevin mccar the has taken like seventeen straight l's

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Speaker 1: for like a vote for speaker as it stands, I

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Speaker 1: believe he is not yet the speaker, or at least

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Speaker 1: as of this recording. And we've played like last week

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Speaker 1: he played a clip on how like Hannity was getting

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Speaker 1: tired of Lauren Bolberg and talking like her obstructionism. As

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Speaker 1: he was saying, He's like, why don't you pack it in?

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Speaker 1: And the other never Kevin's like what the funk? Like

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Speaker 1: what do we look stupid out here? And then Brian

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00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: Kilmeade even called one of his fellow insurrectionists a literal

724
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Speaker 1: insurrectionists and was like, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to

725
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Speaker 1: use yeah, and like Laura Ingram, Laura Ingram even told

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Speaker 1: Matt Gates to get on with it and that he

727
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: was playing with fire by messing around with this. But

728
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Speaker 1: one person on this news channel, on Fashion or Fox News, uh,

729
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: isn't towing the line like the rest, and that's Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: He's steadily been marching to his own beat or maybe

731
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Speaker 1: the kremlins of like this is a good thing that

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Speaker 1: the government can't operate. Actually, this is democracy in action.

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Speaker 1: He's also decided to give the holdouts like some additional

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Speaker 1: notes on concessions they should be extracting from Kevin McCarthy, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, make the house completely Like basically you should

736
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Speaker 1: get McCarthy to start a probe and at the FBI

737
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Speaker 1: and have all the footage from January six released because

738
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Speaker 1: this is like part of his conspiratorial thinking about it

739
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: with like Antifa, and you know, he just he feels

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Speaker 1: like this this help and then even accused McCarthy. He

741
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: was like, he's like, are you really going to trust

742
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Speaker 1: a guy who are is like a Ukraine pin? Wait? What, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think why? Because I mean what reason?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a clearly sounds an awful lot like

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00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: an attempt to begin to erode the financial backing of

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Speaker 1: Ukraine as they're fighting Russia. Is that like just shorthand

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Speaker 1: at this point on his show, like his audience all

748
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: is like Ukraine, well, we all know they're the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you listen to him enough, he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not like full throated being like we got it

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Speaker 1: back Ukraine. He's like, well, I don't know should we be.

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00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: We got a lot of problems here like over there.

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00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: And then like the other part of the Fox is like,

754
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: hey man, we're with the military industrial complex. What then

755
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about get this money? Flu shut the funk up.

756
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: But again, this is part of his you know, clearly

757
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: he wants to keep continue to erode the faith or

758
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: whatever that is, and especially if the government's not operating.

759
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: That is huge for people like Tucker Carlson, for people

760
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: like Steve Bannon. They want people to look at the

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00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: government as being a total joke, like that, that's the

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00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: that's what that's step one of being able to really

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00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: blow ship out. Because the second everyone's like, no, it's

764
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: it's a joke, it's all bullshit, whatever, then you're pretty

765
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: pretty much anything is on the table at that point,

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Speaker 1: or at least it won't sound inappropriate. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just like an odd place because on one hand,

768
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Fox and GEOP, the GOP, they've both chosen like this

769
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: very easy path of just feeding their audience increasingly extremist

770
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: viewpoints to like bolster support. But in that process they've

771
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: also had to be somewhat tethered to reality, which is

772
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: also affecting their audience. Like when they called Arizona for Biden.

773
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: That was like a mortal sin for those people who

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00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: are also fed the diet of misinformation like what do

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: you mean that's that's happening, or you know, trying to

776
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: have pretend that they aren't spewing election denial fantasies to

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: being you know, avoid being sued into oblivion. It's a

778
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of like simultaneous reaping of the sewing and like

779
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: it's weird ways and like Kevin McCarthy if he if

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00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: he ends up being speaker, he's gonna be so weakened

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00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: because he's giving the entire the ability of the speaker's

782
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: position to sort of dictate the schedule of legislation and

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00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: what gets voted on, etcetera. And you know, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what good it does anybody

785
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: at that point, but we will see how this So

786
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: these are the people who are winning, right, Like Fox

787
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: News is the side that is winning. If they are

788
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: making it so that the mainstream media can't tell the

789
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: truth about a story when the Democratic side sucks up,

790
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: like because they know that Fox is you know, going

791
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: to be twisting things, then they've they've won. They've redefined

792
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: the game to to their ends. And you know, it

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00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: as bad as weird and like, you know, untenable as

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Speaker 1: their position seems, it does seem like they still determine

795
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: the rules of war when it comes to how stories

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Speaker 1: are told in the current media landscape in a way

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00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: that you know, even fairly recently they what probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: the case. Well, I guess my one question is this then,

799
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Speaker 1: because what really looks like is there's there's been this

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Speaker 1: internal kind of civil war with the right right where

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00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: you had your like what we'll call classic conservatives kind

802
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: of battling out with the far right and you and

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00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: that's kind of the holdouts here. So do we think

804
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: this is a good thing that it seems like to

805
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: be this small community of whack jobs that are holding

806
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Speaker 1: out or do we look at this as, uh, they

807
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: are regaining power because their figurehead essentially was like, you

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00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: know Trump, who was you know, uh there. But even

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00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: though there's a little bit of Trump and all of

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00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: that party, I think you have the side of the

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00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: people who are like, we're gonna outright saying you know,

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Speaker 1: wild ship like like we like we were saying the Tuckle,

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00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson's of it and the Matt Gates of

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Speaker 1: it all, which I'm like, how about you worry about

815
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: your case, my boy. But uh, and then you have

816
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, the people who are trying to play ball

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Speaker 1: and parlay and and try and pretend like they have

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00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: some civility. Well it's like they have. They're gonna these

819
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Speaker 1: like holdouts there in a rough spot like part of

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Speaker 1: them is like, yeah, we did that. Hold that Kevin McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you thought you were the speaker that you

822
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: moved in a little too quick. But then on the

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00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: other side, right, you have two hundred Republicans who are like,

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Speaker 1: the fund is, what the funk are they doing? The

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00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: funk are y'all doing? We need to fucking move along

826
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Speaker 1: with this ship. My Karthy already promised me spots and

827
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Speaker 1: ship that I need. I want to get this ship going,

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00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: already made my deal with him. Cut your fucking deal

829
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: with him, and let's go. But then on the other

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00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: side of it, you also have people in that two

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Speaker 1: hundred of the establishment Democrats that are behind McCarthy. They're

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Speaker 1: also telling McCarthy, don't be cutting deals with them, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't don't give them a gavel position, like as the

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Speaker 1: chair of a committee or subcommittee. Are you fucking dumb.

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Speaker 1: I've been in this ship for fifty fucking your forty

836
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Speaker 1: years or whatever, and you're gonna let this fucking racist

837
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: who sells etsy like KKK fucking coffee mugs and ship

838
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: like they're gonna let that person run a commite I've

839
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: put a lot of time into this. So they're up

840
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: against it, and really, all it's gonna do, it's just

841
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna it's only gonna further create more rot within the

842
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: party because everyone is pissed at each other right now.

843
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, you have some Republicans like,

844
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Speaker 1: fucking man, just cut a deal with the Democrats, then

845
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: like fucking leave them behind at least we can figure

846
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: something out. And then you have a group of Republicans

847
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: like I will fuck I will never fucking vote for

848
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: anything thing that gives power to the Democrats, even in

849
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: a shared situation. So it's a lose lose situation. I

850
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: don't think it necessarily Bolsters like their power. They're just obstructing.

851
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: And from that position, they're like, it's only creating more

852
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: resentment to them specifically as a group. Now what that

853
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: means for like their constituents who probably love it because

854
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: they probably rode in on a horse of like get

855
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: McCarthy out of here and all these rhinos. I mean again,

856
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: but this is what happens when they they let the

857
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: fucking monsters in it. I feel like it's more likely

858
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: that we see them like give concessions to the extremist wing,

859
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: the extremist called outs than there is that like there's

860
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: some sort of coalition, like you know, so yeah, and

861
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like don't. A lot

862
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: of people say it's impossible, but you never know. Yeah,

863
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean because the other thing is like soon you

864
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: might see people try to spin it at how come

865
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the Democrats won't work with them? Yeah? Yeah, you know,

866
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: it's like what they're like nearly antithetical on most things,

867
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: like like you know, policy wise, But I don't know.

868
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: That's why it's very very uh, it's it's gonna be

869
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a strained fight for the speakers possession,

870
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: and then at the end of it, I'm not sure

871
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: we'll see how efficiently or inefficiently runs. All right, let's

872
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk Netflix,

873
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: and we're back. And so Netflix has been canceling. They

874
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: canceled over fifteen shows in twenty twenty two over Yeah,

875
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: I think it ended up closer to like nineteen by

876
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So they canceled a show

877
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 1: from the creators of Dark. Did y'all ever watch Dark?

878
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: That German like sci fi lost type ship. I heard

879
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: people raving about it, but I did not watch didn't

880
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: you watch it, Jack? I watched like the first season

881
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: of it. It's solid. It is solid, it's like what

882
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: it recaptures some of what you got from like watching

883
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Lost that first season a little and like it's even

884
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: more self contained. So I don't know. I I recommend it,

885
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: even though I didn't complete the entire first season. That

886
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: the one thing I would say is do not do

887
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: the like English dub, just do just fucking suck it

888
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: up and read the subject. Yeah. I typically I if

889
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: it if they have subsuningum subs. Yeah, this was the

890
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: first time. For some reason, I think it defaulted to

891
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: like the dub, and so I just watched like three

892
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: episodes with the dub and I was like, man, this

893
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: is terrible. I don't know if people about yeah, they're

894
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: all bad actors and I was like, oh no, it's

895
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: just yeah. And then you turned the subtitles on, You're like, oh,

896
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: they're all great actors. The big change. Anyways, Dark is cool.

897
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: They released they developed and released a new show from

898
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: the creator of Dark and it's first week that it

899
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: drops back in November, it was called It hit the

900
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: number two slot on the Netflix Top ten, behind only

901
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: The Crown stayed on the top ten for weeks and

902
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: then like a couple of weeks later it just got

903
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: canceled and everyone was confused. And that this has happened

904
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: with a couple of other shows this year where it's

905
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: not you know, Netflix will drop stuff and just bury

906
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: it and it will like we'll just like not exist,

907
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: and that's funked up. But there's been some shows where

908
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: they like, there's a teen vampire drama called First Kill

909
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: that was all over their top ten and they canceled it.

910
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: And so the secret behind this is something called completion

911
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: rate that they value over everything else. And that is

912
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: what what you would think it is, is like what

913
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: percentage of people who start a show actually finish it?

914
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: And so yeah, so the these shows that get in

915
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: their top ten because they've got a lot of people

916
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: like starting them and watching the first couple episodes, they

917
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: have low completion rates, which suggests to Netflix, well then

918
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: nobody's going to you know, tune in for two or

919
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: what you know, season two, so that they do billboard

920
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: charts like that. Yeah, you know what I mean, because

921
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, like when people when Drake

922
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: puts out like a forty six song album, and like

923
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, and they'll just play back to back

924
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: and then at the top of the charts because like

925
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: listen time, like how many people are even just like

926
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: bailing after like halfway through the third track or something.

927
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's interesting to see that

928
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: at least for them, they know that is actually the

929
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: most valuable thing in terms of making content. It's like, well,

930
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's number one, like people have

931
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: to watch it to justify the cost. Right, what do

932
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: you guys feelings about that? Because like part of me

933
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: is like but with with music in particular, part of

934
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: me is like, yeah, all the songs, I don't I

935
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: don't give a ship, like don't be precious, because like

936
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, there have been some great albums that like

937
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan has a couple albums where like he's just

938
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: cut songs that were great, but he just like felt

939
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't fit the vibe of the album and like they

940
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: don't come out for like thirty years or whatever. So

941
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: like the this new model of just like putting all

942
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: the songs out and letting people sort of edit together

943
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: their own version of the album. I don't hey, But

944
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: it's also like I do appreciate a flawless album, you

945
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: know it's but yeah, what's built in is the cynicism

946
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: of making as much money as first. That's it. That's

947
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: why I don't like it because I'm like, because that's

948
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: also songs are so short too, Like it's like, well

949
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: you just keep looping that or you know that. A

950
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: lot of it is also being affected by how people

951
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: consume music on TikTok so away, like everything is evolving,

952
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: so do whatever you do, like put out a fucking

953
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: album because my favorite song of the year it's like

954
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: a minute and a half. Yo. But but that's what

955
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: they're saying. They're also saying that this metric of completion rate,

956
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: like that's skewed in favor of shorter, more easily digestible

957
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: shows that you're just you know, like if your shows

958
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: like got fifteen minute episodes where it's like Emily in

959
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: Paris and it's just something you're like throwing on the background,

960
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: it's going to have a higher completion rate, like if

961
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: it's just not challenging. So I don't know, it does

962
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: it does seem to be anything that's metrics driven around

963
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: art is gonna be a little problematic. Look what it

964
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: did the video. Look what it did the digital video,

965
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It used to be like, yeah, man,

966
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: you could upload videos on the internet and they're like

967
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: that ship can't be more than fifty three second in

968
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: the asshole and they were so and like and then

969
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: they're like time, it's all about It's not about watch time.

970
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: It's that some people can make content that people will

971
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: watch longer than others. That's what it is. It's not

972
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: by virtue of the length of time. But yeah, I

973
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: think that this is always when you know, as quick

974
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones would say this one God leaves the room's

975
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: metrics and when money comes into the conversation, When metrics

976
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: come to the conversation, that's when God leaves. God leaves

977
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: the room, babe, ain't no God in there. And I

978
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: was a big metrics guy when I was, you know,

979
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: running Cracked. I definitely believed in metrics because their parent

980
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: company was like a big metrics company, so I kind

981
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: of had to. But yeah, I think anyone who was

982
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: making digital content and that had to be it was

983
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: all about KPI s and all that. Ship. Yeah, but

984
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, are there are there any shows

985
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: that you guys have like felt got gone too soon

986
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: in the digital world that you want to see like

987
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: given another or not in the digital like on streaming,

988
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: that you want to see given another chance. I feel

989
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: like we get plenty of digital content. I was just

990
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: watching Chronicles on HBO Max. I thought that it was cool. Yeah,

991
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: and that Sally there's there's a ton of I mean

992
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: so much. It's hard. Honestly, I'm kind of desensitized because

993
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: the rhythm of content coming out is so intense. They're like, oh, right,

994
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: like season three is out. I'm like, I forgot about

995
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: season two of that other show, right, here's the thing

996
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: for And this is what I truly feel about when

997
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: these quote unquote metrics, because you know, I've seen the

998
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: metrics for the digital stuff we've worked on, and we

999
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: know it's real. I would love to see Netflix actually

1000
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: post these metrics because it really feels like more of

1001
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: a cop out than anything. Because you can't tell me

1002
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: the platform that created people binging almost three to five

1003
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: hours of content is now like, oh, we like the

1004
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: easily digestible stuff. You can't tell me these shows that

1005
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: are blowing that are these hour longs which are going nuts.

1006
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I feel like there's copouts, and

1007
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it what it is when it always

1008
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: comes to Hollywood things like this is money because I think,

1009
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, TV is so elusive when it's like on

1010
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: the traditional networks because we're just kind of like, okay,

1011
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: we hope it did good, but we're going off on

1012
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Nielsen's and all this stuff. But like when Netflix shows

1013
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: are bopping, you know, you got people globally on Twitter,

1014
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: you've got trending and all that, and then when you

1015
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: come back to the bargaining table with that type of information,

1016
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your coins. So you know, it doesn't

1017
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't, you know, And it's always been this like

1018
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: on this third season. Nothing Nothing gets past the third season,

1019
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: which you know traditionally inside baseball usually when contracts get renegotiated.

1020
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: So I would I would personally love to see the

1021
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: metrics that that are being upheld and and and that's

1022
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 1: not just being you absconding and waiting out to see

1023
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: as we go into a year, you know, but we're

1024
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean both with between SAG, the w g A

1025
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the d g A, we're starting to

1026
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: come for streaming because streaming is this weird thing where, uh,

1027
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, your show goes on there, you don't, you

1028
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: don't get the same. You know, when when I was

1029
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: doing a show before, they played it once again every

1030
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: that same night. So they would play when it aired,

1031
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: um and it usually aired at midnight. I'll let you

1032
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: guess which show that was, and then it would air again,

1033
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: and so they'd had to pay us every time it aired,

1034
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: and it was a daily show, and it was like

1035
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: a nice little extra bump. But you know, if it's

1036
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: on streaming, you people can watch that fifty million times

1037
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: and we're really not gonna see any type of payment

1038
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: for that. So now we're getting to this point where,

1039
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: like you know, W G A. SAG actors were starting

1040
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: to be like where's my coins? And now we're getting

1041
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: to this era where they're trying to be like, well,

1042
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let shows run that that long. We're

1043
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: not gonna give We're already cutting down the the season orders,

1044
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm rewatching Lost. The first season is

1045
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. You know, you don't get a two

1046
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: episode first season anymore. You definitely don't get it on streaming. Streaming,

1047
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: you're lucky if you get a ten episode. It's eight

1048
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: to ten episodes, so it's really just kind of the

1049
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: dance around paying the people that need to be paid

1050
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: while y'all raking billions, you know, you know, follow the money.

1051
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: As they said, the problem is, like they would be like,

1052
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: the thing is that show was actually too popping, so

1053
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: they actually wanted like appropriate money to keep. We don't

1054
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: really do that. We like to take make bets on

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Speaker 1: three seasons. M that was like, it's funny. I just

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Speaker 1: saw a clip of Snoop Dogg talking about I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember on MTV he did that show

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Speaker 1: Doggy Fizzle Televissile that like it was like a comedy

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Speaker 1: show that's new and it was funny. There was like

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Speaker 1: a segment called black Ass where it was just based

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Speaker 1: on like black people can't do that jackass ship or

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Speaker 1: or it's like the stakes are way different coming up

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Speaker 1: to a cop and trying to funk with him. And

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Speaker 1: I remember the really funny show. It was only around

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Speaker 1: for one season, and what happened was he said, he said,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, like it was popping. MTV loved it. They

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Speaker 1: come back. They said, hey man, we we already got

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Speaker 1: everybody on board for season two, like we got all

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Speaker 1: your like the hair people, the camera people, they're all

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Speaker 1: locked in, the writers like they're they're good with this

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Speaker 1: new deal or whatever. And then Snoop was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need more money. And they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the thing is you know you do we we got

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Speaker 1: you in a two season contract and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. That first season was is popping, so

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Speaker 1: we're not if we're not going to have the same deals,

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Speaker 1: like I don't think. He was basic like I don't

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Speaker 1: care what and and they said, okay, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we can't really do anything because he signed the papers.

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Speaker 1: They told him. The season two shooting date was like

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Speaker 1: you know, January ten, January, tent shows up, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: show up, and he said, nine am, I'm not there,

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Speaker 1: ten am, I'm not there, two pm, i'm not there,

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Speaker 1: four pm, I'm not there. And finally they just asked,

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I said, I'm not doing it. End

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Speaker 1: of the show because he was just he was so

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Speaker 1: about his coins that and also I think he was

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Speaker 1: like I don't even know traditional business deals, but this

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Speaker 1: but it's true. Yeah, yeah, MTV not always the greatest

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Speaker 1: to talent that they work with, They were paying people

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Speaker 1: like it was digital content before digital content was the thing.

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Speaker 1: I will I will say, you know, yeah, they the

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Speaker 1: parent company, which I think technically doesn't exist anymore. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like, like, but that parent company, yeah, Vicom,

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Speaker 1: because I think now it's within Paramount, right, which you know,

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Speaker 1: CBS Paramount, which I do love and everything, but Vicom,

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Speaker 1: which is of course very different and not the same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: truly has a history. And I'll leave of just being

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Speaker 1: like you have to get it going with them, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's mostly too when you think about the

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Speaker 1: history of television, if you some people know that, some don't.

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Speaker 1: But you know, reality TV came from the big writer

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Speaker 1: strike that happened. That's really when it blew up. And

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Speaker 1: I think MTV and viacom a lot of their shows.

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Speaker 1: We're able to make the most out of it. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had Team Mom, you got the Challenge, you got

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Speaker 1: Real World, so you were able to keep cooking. And

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Speaker 1: I think that so they're used to being like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the anything scripted is not our bottom line,

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Speaker 1: you know anything, you know, like like we can we

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Speaker 1: can move with you so you can get what we offer,

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Speaker 1: or we'll just make another another thing like that, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of why they've had the history.

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Speaker 1: But you know what happened to Spider Games MTV two.

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Speaker 1: I was watching that Ship Took Away, that drama show

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Speaker 1: about a fledgling gaming company that was like the worst

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Speaker 1: soap opera I've ever seen. I don't know why to look,

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Speaker 1: but when you when you look back at like how

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Speaker 1: MTV came together, that ship was it wasn't even like

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Speaker 1: duct tape. It was it was scotch tape. Like they

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Speaker 1: they were just like throwing so like music videos were

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Speaker 1: a thing that people were doing in London and like

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Speaker 1: the proud rock like new wave scene, and they just

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Speaker 1: were like, yeah, these are free, let's just put them on.

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Speaker 1: And for like three years that's all they had and

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Speaker 1: then they just slowly like built it up with no

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Speaker 1: budget and just it's wild. So yeah, that that ship

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Speaker 1: came together from very bargain basement type culture. How you

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Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? And then with Rob dear Dick pretty

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Speaker 1: much flipped the script on him. Well if he try

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always, where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Oh? Man?

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Speaker 1: They if you wady wait on Twitter and Instagram. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know how that spell, just look at the episode. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: if the's on Twitch, watch season two A Plan crew,

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Speaker 1: It's coming to you. Watch Twisted Metals Coming to Peacock

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, watch anything else I tell you

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Speaker 1: too on those social media sites because I'm cooking on

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Speaker 1: stuff all the time, and I'm real excited to be back,

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Speaker 1: and you know, carved myself back on Mountain zeke Mark

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Speaker 1: it's it's back. I'm freet dull. You know, I know

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Speaker 1: it's getting dul And I was getting I know because

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Speaker 1: you know, I popped in the day and then now

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Speaker 1: I was also gonna come a little later, and I said,

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Speaker 1: and go ahead and keep that there. I'm coming back.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm back and hopefully we're better Internet. But

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Speaker 1: y'all won't know this because it's edited really well. But

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Speaker 1: just h this was a journey of it. There's like

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Speaker 1: the phrase I'm thinking I'm back. Yeah, I'm thinking that

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Speaker 1: for real. So and is there a tweet or some

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Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: I do. I added it to the docks so I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't forget, but it is. It had me laughing and

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Speaker 1: it's great here this area. It is a video of

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Speaker 1: Savannah recording Lebron James trying to play Madden, and Lebron

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Speaker 1: is kind of like, well we did this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 1: and the tweet goes my nigga a billionaire and still

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Speaker 1: gotta justify being on the game. He just like screwing

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, I still come back to this tweet and

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Speaker 1: laugh because I'm like, Yep, you truly relatable energy. What's

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Speaker 1: your future? Miles Welcome? Where can people find you? Miles?

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Speaker 1: And was the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? Find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find

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Speaker 1: us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad

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01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: boost These an NBA podcast. And also if you like

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Speaker 1: fiance and watching that trash dump Unraveled before Eyes checking

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Speaker 1: out on four twenty day Fiance. Some tweets I like.

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Speaker 1: The first one is from uh Conna jam at Kanna

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Speaker 1: jam Ceo n j A M. He said no better

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Speaker 1: feeling than when you finish a good book and can

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Speaker 1: finally eat the book mark to um. And then another

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Speaker 1: one I liked was this this tweet this prompt from

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Speaker 1: at Jewel Night Jess, who we did the last TV

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Speaker 1: show you watched is now getting a crossover with the

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: last video game you played. What is the unholy abomination

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Speaker 1: that has just been created? And for me, that is

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Speaker 1: the Vale And I don't know what the funk that means.

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Speaker 1: I can easily that, Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're already

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Speaker 1: playing volleyball and ship, so yeah, yeah, he just he

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Speaker 1: moves on, he moves up a little bit from amateur

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Speaker 1: volleyball to the world. They're already they're already used to

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Speaker 1: swallowing the lives. You know. Let's see some tweets I've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying. I am a friends tweeted all these men

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Speaker 1: vying for speaker and none running to be listener? Makes

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Speaker 1: you think that did make me? And Philip Matt Terisi

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Speaker 1: tweeted the names Bond Names Bond. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and we have a Facebook fan page and

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Speaker 1: website Daily zeite guys dot com where we post our

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Speaker 1: episodes and our foot note. That's where we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might, oh, you might

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Speaker 1: enjoy this for all my geriatric millennials who appreciate the

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Speaker 1: sounds of the boom bap golden era of hip hop

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Speaker 1: from New York. Just this West Side Gun track from

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Speaker 1: You Don't Think actually two years ago. But I love

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Speaker 1: this piano sample that's in it. It's, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's so dope. It's this Ramsey Lewis piano sample and

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Speaker 1: it's like it's a great loop because it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: have like a distinct beat, but the producer finds a

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Speaker 1: way to make a boombappable. So this is West Side Gun.

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Speaker 1: Why do them like dad heavily boom bappable? Oh yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: well we will link off to that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeite Guys is a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: the heart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That is going to do it

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Speaker 1: for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 1: what is trending, and we'll talk to you all then

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Speaker 1: Bye bye bye m H.