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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything, So don't don't do why? Hello there,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Yes, you guessed it, the Worst

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Speaker 1: Year Ever. My name is Katie Stole. That's wild that

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Speaker 1: you are that person's name. Um doing what I'm doing? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start this again. I'm gonna respond to Katie

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Speaker 1: a different way. Oh God, should we start the whole

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Speaker 1: thing again? No? No, no, we never restart anything. Do

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Speaker 1: not listen to Robert nobody only we agreed on when

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Speaker 1: we don't trust this fucking haircut. I don't trust. We

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Speaker 1: start introducing an episode, we never go back. Sorry for

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Speaker 1: there's no podcasting relentless, but there's no editing in podcasting.

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Speaker 1: There's no editing in podcasting. We just have to keep

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Speaker 1: moving forward, like the Marines on Omaha Beach or whatever

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Speaker 1: guys were on Omaha Beach, whoever was the po Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what Katie was trying to do was to get Cody,

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Speaker 1: who is a co host, and Robert who's a co host,

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Speaker 1: to say their names. But you know it didn't happen. Here.

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Speaker 1: We are real early and apparently we're not resetting. Daniel,

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Speaker 1: do with this what you will um do what thou

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Speaker 1: wilt shall be the whole of the podcasting editor's job. Daniel,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined here today with my co hosts Cody Johnston

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Speaker 1: and Robert Evans, and our producer Sophie. I pronounced that riot, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you did, you got it. I just realized that's something

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Speaker 1: that I always read, and it's actually Katie, get it,

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Speaker 1: get it right. Come on, we'll come back and not

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Speaker 1: this is Katie and Rob. It is here on Sophie

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Speaker 1: is here as well, and we're just gonna talk so

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Speaker 1: much about so many things today that it was it

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Speaker 1: was it was hard for us to even to even

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Speaker 1: come together with a consensus on how we were going

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Speaker 1: to start talking to you, the listeners. For example, I

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Speaker 1: completely disagree with how this has gone. Look, but you know,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of an unprecedented surge of authoritarianism worldwide,

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Speaker 1: the best thing this podcast can do is be a

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Speaker 1: shining example of the powers of democracy. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: it means several minutes of introduction before even saying the

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Speaker 1: name of the show, that this is no no clear

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Speaker 1: leader emerges, not like um a solid direction the listeners

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Speaker 1: disaster hits. Then then Katie takes over with an iron

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Speaker 1: fist and sends in federal troops to set up sniper's

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Speaker 1: you saw my notes, huh, Yeah I did. I did.

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Speaker 1: But for but for now, there's democrat seeing equality on

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Speaker 1: this podcast where we're all equal partners, is what. But

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Speaker 1: you can see the lights starting to go out, see it.

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Speaker 1: It is the worst driver. This is the podcast, Katie.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about stuff and not do another intro? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I do, I do. Um, guys, a little transparency

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Speaker 1: up top. The world is chaos. It's not doing great,

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Speaker 1: it's awful, and it's so hard. I think we're mailing

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Speaker 1: this metaphor. Yeah. The President just declared basically a war

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Speaker 1: on the city I live in. So that's a fun development.

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Speaker 1: It's for law and order's sake, Robert, like, we get

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Speaker 1: we get over this and over this. He wants to

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Speaker 1: take take law and order to where you are. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: I know not. And before his law and order, there

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Speaker 1: were no snipers nests on the roof of the federal courthouse,

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Speaker 1: So that's exactly. But it's your tone makes me think

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Speaker 1: maybe you think that's bad. Whenever we feelings about snipers, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Whenever we um sit down to

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Speaker 1: gets increasingly difficult because you're like, there are so many

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Speaker 1: say personally for Cody and I, we also have even

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Speaker 1: more news. So at the beginning with this show, of course,

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Speaker 1: we had a specific purview, which was to be talking

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Speaker 1: about election related things, and obviously that has changed about

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Speaker 1: the election, I mean, I care about it, but you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's always like an interesting negotiation of like what

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Speaker 1: dear friend Robert has covered, you guys, no been covering

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Speaker 1: the protests in Portland really intensely. It's been traumatic and

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Speaker 1: think I've emerged as the leader here. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have. You've you've violently taken power uh and sent

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Speaker 1: but that's normal. That's part for the course for me

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Speaker 1: these days. UM. We should probably start by by just, uh,

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Speaker 1: It's frustrating. We've got over a hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: failing miserably. We're embarrassing compared to other countries. Um. The

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Speaker 1: most of us won't. Are you suggesting that we're an

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Speaker 1: So people should learn how to garden. Yeah, Robert's growing

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Speaker 1: some practical advice. Wash pick up. Yeah, my squash is

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Speaker 1: doing amazing this counterpoint Robert squash counterpoint delicious. Hamilton's on

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus. Do that instead of the gardening the survival

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Speaker 1: stuff that you were talking about, how learning to learning

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Speaker 1: two It's two hours and forty minutes long. You can

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Speaker 1: just like two and out. It's great. That does sound nice.

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Speaker 1: telling you about other terrible stuff. It's okay. This is

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Speaker 1: Also we're having historically low numbers of international students here

424
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Speaker 1: even without this development. This is according to the Washington

425
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Speaker 1: Post quote, the desire to study is study in the

426
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Speaker 1: United States has flagged since the start of the Trump administration.

427
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Speaker 1: Before the presidential election, the number of Indian students was

428
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: growing annually by double digit percentages, but the growth rate

429
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: fell sharply in the eighteen and nineteen academic years. Um,

430
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: this is just sending so many people reeling. Also, you're

431
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Speaker 1: trying to make people travel internationally during a pandemic. It's

432
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: just it's gotta get we gotta get him out or whatever, whatever,

433
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, whatever whatever reason is, like do whatever. I

434
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be a lot of effort

435
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: from schools. Obviously this this lawsuit has been passed, and

436
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing you know, people at different institutions scrambling and

437
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: you know, maybe making one technically in person class that

438
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: maybe people don't have to show up to you know what,

439
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, to try to start navigate the rules. But

440
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: it's justo loopholes to help people, loopholes instead of loopholes

441
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: to cough on people. Yeah, that's an appropriate reaction, Robert.

442
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm so tired all the time. I know, I know, Um, Sylphie,

443
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: you you wanted to rant about Betsy Devas a little bit.

444
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: She's a monster. She doesn't know how to answer a question.

445
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: She's encompetent, she's an evil, evil, evil, evil person and

446
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: should not have the job she has. And she's causing

447
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: so much harm to her education system. Every second she's

448
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: employed as the secretary of education. Bad things happened. Evil woman. Yeah,

449
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: almost for hiring her. She's so not qualified and its

450
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: damaging our children. Yeah, it's it's remarkable the amount of

451
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: harm that she and her brother have done to the world.

452
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Truly a case for I'm just going to say it,

453
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: tremendous random violence. Uh, would be would be useful? Um,

454
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Speaker 1: I won't be more specific than that. I'm very angry. Yes,

455
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: very well, you said it. You said random, So that

456
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: could be anything, Yeah, yeah, you know, random source. It

457
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: could be like an ear flick, you know, yeah, an

458
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: random violence. Yeah that's not Yeah, that's a good way

459
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: to not be legally inciting anything. To go and give

460
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Speaker 1: her hair a good yank evil what anarchists used to

461
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Speaker 1: do and dearly solid hair yank. Yeah, a lot of

462
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: hair yanks. That's William McKinley. President McKinley got his hair

463
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: real yanks. Yeah, he was real, real, real childish at flirting.

464
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Archduke Franz Ferdinand got some fucking hair yanks pretty pretty hard.

465
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: William guy got a lot of three Stooges stuff going

466
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: on there. Um, Cody, I know you gathered some some

467
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: news items you wanted to go through as well, just

468
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things. You know, there's there's news and

469
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: then there's uh again, I'm like there's a lot of

470
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: there's so many things that's like, this is the news, right,

471
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: and then there's so many things like this is the

472
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: dumb stuff we were talking about, This is the stuff

473
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Speaker 1: that was going to make this year so bad, and

474
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: like we don't even need to talk about Roger Stone

475
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: that much. It's the thing that happened, Robert, you don't

476
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: care about it, and this this episode is for you

477
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: and informing you. Um, but I'm already seeing prominent people,

478
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: one of them including Hillary Clinton, literally using this Roger

479
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Stone commutation to warn us about Russia interfering with our election. Excellent. Uh,

480
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: this commutation of his sentence is tells us that Putin

481
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Speaker 1: is in charge, and it's just a wild, wild thing

482
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: to say. Um not that like Russia isn't that isn't

483
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: a thing and around, but my gosh, um. Uh, Tucker

484
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Carlson's racist, racist head writer was fired. Did you hear

485
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: about that, Robert? I did hear about that. Uh. I'm

486
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: surprised that he got fired because it would seem like

487
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: his entire job was to do the thing that he

488
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: got fired for, just to a massive audience. Right. You'd

489
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: think like his his actual application for the job would

490
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Speaker 1: have like boxes like are you like secretly racist? Check

491
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Speaker 1: the box and okay good? Yeah, I mean getting hired

492
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: by Tucker Carlson. Like the job interview is can you

493
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Speaker 1: reach orgasm while lying on your back on the grave

494
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: of a Bothan S S man? That was my assertion, Yeah, yeah,

495
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: do you say the fourteen words when you come? Okay? Perfect,

496
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: You're hired? Great? Um? So yeah, just like stuff like

497
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: that it's like that, it's still going on. We're also

498
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: in a pandemic. Um. But but this is also originally

499
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: an election show. You know, there is an election going on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody remembers this, um, but we

501
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: we can, we can possibly have a different precedent in

502
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. And that man's name is Kanye West.

503
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: Not just kidding, it's Joe. I don't want to engage.

504
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: We will not We will not be engaging. I will

505
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: say this. Um. We talked about it last week on

506
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: even More News briefly just the right amount of time

507
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: with our guest Joel Leon, who's amazing, and I think

508
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: that he handled that conversation the best when saying, um,

509
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Speaker 1: did we all forget that he Kanye is bipolar, that

510
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: struggles from you know a lot of you know, instability.

511
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: He's on breakdowns and apparently he is been going through

512
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: a bipolar episode and his family and friends are worried

513
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: about him. So let's you have stopped giving weight to

514
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: that conversation or even jokes about it, you know, because

515
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: this has had enough steam. Also, he's not on the

516
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: balance Well yeah, it's not running for presidents. Why are

517
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: we been talking about it. But yeah, that's just something

518
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: I I just I repeat that again because I think

519
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: not all of our we've got some overlap. But you know,

520
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: if you if you're at this show but not the

521
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: other one. I think that that's a really important point

522
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: in something to keep in mind when you're seeing that

523
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: dialogue online. He is he is someone who is a

524
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: narcissist and also has other mental health issues, um, and

525
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: is not insert like I don't. I don't think he's

526
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: even capable of really understanding why it's a bad idea

527
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: to do what he's doing. Um, I don't. Yeah, Yeah,

528
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of exacerbating behaviors and things, um that Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: that conversation talking about this conversation of the election, you know,

530
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: and I've seen people online being like, well, we don't

531
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden, you know, so let's so let's let's

532
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: try Kanye, you know, and especially using the argument of like,

533
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: well Joe Biden has clearly deteriorating mentally, and you know,

534
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: it's tricky, it's a tricky conversation to have online to

535
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: that one because I understand where they're coming from. I

536
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: also I'm not a doctor to diagnose. Also, they're like

537
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: that is going to I mean, speaking of the worst

538
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: year ever. Uh, this is all stuff that was going

539
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to happen anyway, but it's happening more. More and more

540
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: people are saying it. Um, the cognitive stuff that's gonna

541
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: be a thing. You know, Like last year we did

542
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: that some More News episode about how Joe Biden, if

543
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: he wanted to like save the soul of the country,

544
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: could like run as a Republican and sort of save

545
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the Republican Party from itself and move them a little

546
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: towards more towards the center and recalibrate in that talking

547
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: about how like it's just gonna be constantly debating, like

548
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: your mind is going, No, your mind is going you

549
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: touch women inappropriately? No, you do. And that's sort of

550
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: back and forth. Um, and we are seeing that they're

551
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: both commenting on each other's cognitive abilities. Now they're doing

552
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: it's it's awful, which which which of the clearly sick

553
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: old men is the least clearly sick. It's so it's

554
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: let's give him control of a nuclear arsenal unreal, And

555
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: like they're just doing they're just like they're both just

556
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: like leaning into it. Like I took a cognitive test.

557
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: I think Joe should take a cognitive test, and Joe's like, actually,

558
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'll take a test against him any day, and

559
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: it's just already so I will save this. I obviously

560
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: am not a Joe bi fan, and I think he's

561
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: got angry issues, temperamental problems. Uh, he might be in

562
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: some sort of cognitive decline. I think it's a dangerous

563
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: thing for us to talk about, especially for the thing

564
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: that you guys are saying right here. I'm not somebody

565
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: that's up here saying we can't hold him to task. Um.

566
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: I think that stigmatizing people immediately is having dementia or

567
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: something like that, and there's not We don't have things

568
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: that are now. What we should stigmatize is allowing people

569
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: for whom who are part of a category of the population,

570
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: for whom that is a real concern, we should stigmatize

571
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: them running for the highest office. In the nature of

572
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: the issue, isn't Joe Biden or Donald Trump's individual health.

573
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: It's it's the fact that it's the norm for people

574
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: who are fucking eighty two be the present. It's the

575
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: fact that this is even a conversation, and not only

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: that we not only that we like people have in

577
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: the discourse, but that both of the candidates are engaging

578
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: in it's going to get worse and worse, and they're

579
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: gonna keep talking about it and to age cap shit

580
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: at like six for the president of the things. No,

581
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm agreeing with you. And I think that's

582
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: why I say this, because especially as we start to

583
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: see these conversations more and more, like we already are like, no,

584
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: you're the one that's like losing their mind. No, you're

585
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: the one. You know, it's like grounding it in something

586
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: a bit more productive at least long term. Well, yeah,

587
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: all these conversations that we've had about like Joe Biden

588
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump and all like all the discourse around

589
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: it um and how it's getting worse and like there's

590
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: a responsive way to talk about and so on and

591
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: so forth. It is like just like the problem that

592
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: people often point out that is like kind of lost

593
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: and like you're helping Trump or you're helping and you're

594
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: like whatever it is, it's that we're in the situation

595
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: at all. That's the real problem that we are in

596
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: this situation. And then it's like become a normal thing

597
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: that we just are like, well, that's just how it is.

598
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: This is this is our this is our nation, you know,

599
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Cody Hearing all that makes me think of the lines

600
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: of a wonderful Lee Greenwood song, because I am proud

601
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: to be an American, or at least I know I

602
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: am free to spread a plague to strangers because I

603
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: don't want to be mildly uncomfortable, So I'm not. I

604
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: feel like there's a more poetic way to say that,

605
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: And I won't more the men who set up a

606
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: sniper's nest on the roof of to defend my right

607
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: to not have plywood singed, and I will proudly fire

608
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: riot control rounds into the skulls of fucking twenty year

609
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: olds with boom boxes next to you and defend her. Okay,

610
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm done with I've done with the Lee green with it. No,

611
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: it's great. I love I love listening that whenever they

612
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: played at ball games that used to exist. Cool. That

613
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: seems like a really good spot to take our next

614
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: ad break. I need a break for as I had

615
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: that bumper sticker. I break for ads together everything, So

616
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: don't don't done. We're back again from that ad break. Cool,

617
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: Well rested, and ready for whatever Cody is about to

618
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: throw at us. Now, Cody, I am furious. That's Starburst candy.

619
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh something we need to Let's buy starburst and flush

620
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: it down the toilet. Um. No, So we're gonna talk

621
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: about Biden a little bit. Um. I didn't even intend

622
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: to talk about the other stuff we just talked about. Um,

623
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: it organically came up because of I guess the Kanye

624
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: of it all. But uh, it's like a little election

625
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: update right there. Obviously aren't really a lot of rallies

626
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: going on. Um, there's not a lot of like there's

627
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: no real like outwardly facing like it's a it's an

628
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: election year. The election is kind of in the background.

629
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: It's always this sort of like white noise, just humming

630
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: like it's coming. There's the there's the election problems. What

631
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: things are happening a little bit. I guess Biden still

632
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: has not chosen a running mate. I hope it's you too.

633
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Speaker 1: I think it might be. I think I'm interested in

634
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Speaker 1: your random violence platform. Oh, very pro We're gonna have that.

635
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Speaker 1: My only promise as vice president is a sniper on

636
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Speaker 1: the roof of every public building in this country, just

637
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Speaker 1: shooting at random. Yeah, exactly exactly, Um, America first at

638
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: sniper's everywhere, random American America's America first targets. I don't know,

639
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Speaker 1: please get to there's there's work to be done on

640
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: the messaging, but good to know that you're you're not

641
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Speaker 1: wavering on that America first in randomly placed snipers exactly.

642
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Speaker 1: Colon law and order, colon Uh. If things are fine, um,

643
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: and we'll continue to be even better. So we have

644
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Speaker 1: talked on the show a briefly. A little we mentioned

645
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Speaker 1: when it was going on there was that the task

646
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Speaker 1: force to bring uh, the Bernie wing of the party

647
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: and the Biden wing of the party together um in

648
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: perfect harmony to take on the guy, you know, and

649
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: that task force has released uh many page document with

650
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Speaker 1: their recommendations that they've come up with. And so there's

651
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. I don't go into too many

652
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Speaker 1: details because I think that people are gonna be uh

653
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: ultimately disappointed, and also like other people are gonna be like,

654
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: that's not so bad. They're pushing them left a little bit.

655
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: There is no Medicare for all, there's no green new

656
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: deal kind of stuff like that. It focused a lot

657
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: on like granularly stuff and like you know, defending the

658
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Speaker 1: a c A, raising minimum wage, things like that, and

659
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Speaker 1: one thing I think it's important to note about it too.

660
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Speaker 1: Um Like a lot of people, a lot of people

661
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: in the Bernie wing we're kind of disappointed. Um even

662
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Speaker 1: in articles about people on the task force saying like,

663
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't have everything that we wanted, didn't

664
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Speaker 1: everything Biden wanted. But as Bernie points out, there's no

665
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: question that on some of the major issues facing this country,

666
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Speaker 1: if that agenda is implemented, life will improve for tens

667
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: and tens of millions of working people. Um. So it

668
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: is you know, trying to frame it as it's pushing

669
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Speaker 1: it left. But also, um, it is recommendations. It's not

670
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's nothing, but the campaign hasn't like

671
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Speaker 1: committed to doing anything on it. Uh, they have committed

672
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: to reviewing the recommendations, right, So it's not actually like

673
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: we're look at the platform they're gonna do all this stuff.

674
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: It was Biden and Bernie people getting together and putting

675
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: together things that they hope Biden does. But again, it

676
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: doesn't include banning fracking, doesn't include like you know, a

677
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: lot of like Biden is very against legalizing marijuana. Still,

678
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Speaker 1: things like that. UM. One thing I did kind of

679
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: want to point out in there though, UH, But again

680
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Speaker 1: this isn't the platform. This is taking things into consideration. UM.

681
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: But one of the things they talk about is, uh

682
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Speaker 1: what they think Democrats need to do with the FCC,

683
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: UM very clear language about net neutrality and reversing all

684
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Speaker 1: of the things that Trump has done in regards to

685
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: net neutrality. UM. But also Democrats will take action to

686
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: prevent states from blocking municipalities and rural co ops from

687
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: building publicly owned broadband networks and increased federal support for

688
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: municipal broadband. UM. Basically, like everybody should have the internet. UM.

689
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Speaker 1: We were like even talking earlier when we're talking about

690
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Speaker 1: the the problem with schooling. One of the problems that

691
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot of kids have with doing like do school

692
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: from home. Not everybody has great internet access or internet

693
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Speaker 1: access at all, or access to this kind of uh

694
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Speaker 1: kind of service and what should be a public utility. Right.

695
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Speaker 1: So I don't know that's something to to be like, Hey,

696
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Speaker 1: if they do that, that's good, but again it's not

697
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 1: um necessarily things that they're going to uh to implement. UM.

698
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: A quote from UH one of the folks on the

699
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: task force is we did not have any impressions that

700
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: we were going to turn Joe Biden into Branie Sanders.

701
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: That was not going to happen. That did not happen.

702
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: We don't expect Biden to be uh uh Bernie Sanders,

703
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: although he has recently released a an ad um with

704
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: uh the message and phrasing that it's not about him,

705
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: It's about us, which I find interesting. Um, he continues

706
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: to talk about how health care is a human right

707
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: while uh not proposing policies that would make it a

708
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: human right. Um, Like if if not everybody had the

709
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: right to vote, I wouldn't say, like, well, I think

710
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: voting is a right. So I think here's a way

711
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: that you can pay your for your vote. Um, that's

712
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: not what rights are. Um. So there is it's still

713
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: a disconnect there. Um. It's it feels in the background

714
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: because we are in a pandemic. Um. But I think

715
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Speaker 1: pushing on things like Medicare for all are still really

716
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Speaker 1: important to do. Um. Even though I think this headline

717
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Speaker 1: that I'm seeing right now times five point for million

718
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: Americans lost health insurance during the pandemic. Yeah, yeah, well's

719
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: there that's the like the really frustrating one of the

720
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: more frustrating things in talking about this kind of stuff

721
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, yeah, they're moving on this and

722
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: they think this and they're recommending this. But if you're

723
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: not just saying like we're gonna do we're doing this.

724
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: We're doing this Medicare for All plan. Everyone should have

725
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: health care, every on, every single person in America should

726
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: be able to go to the doctor. End of story,

727
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: because health care is a human right. If we're not

728
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: doing that, especially now, what are we doing. Um, we're

729
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: tying healthcare to employment. Still, we're protecting private insurance still. Um,

730
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: we're even more like merging like personal life with um

731
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: work life. Like that's that's an interesting thing that we're

732
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: going to see more of as this pandemic continues. Like

733
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: we as a society put so much uh importance on

734
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Speaker 1: our jobs, Like we like we are our job in

735
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: a lot of in a lot of ways. Um, and

736
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: now we're all working from home. A lot of people

737
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: are working from home, and uh that is going to

738
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: be a continuing thing. Like that's just policy for a

739
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: lot of companies now in general. And so you're you're

740
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: forcing work into your home space permanently now. So we

741
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: are we're slowly moving towards that relationship between like, well,

742
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: you are your job, and your job is how you

743
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: get healthcare and all these things. We're pushing more, even

744
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: more towards that, UM in a way that I don't

745
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: think we're necessarily ready for. I don't know, I just

746
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: don't like the idea of like, oh, yeah, we're all

747
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: we're all working from home. Now, we wake up in

748
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: your home, but you're also work. It's always in your mind. Now.

749
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily a healthy thing to do.

750
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's not about him, it's about us and

751
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: so on. Yeah, I mean it's a bit demoralizing. It's

752
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: hard at the end of the day. I mean, I've

753
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I've waffled on this but a bit on this show

754
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and our shows because it's it's a bitter pill to swallow.

755
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: But I'm going to vote for Biden. I guess, I mean,

756
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how many to you here

757
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: in California. But it's tough. I keep coming back to

758
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: hoping to continue having these conversations. Yes, we need to

759
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: be calling out this bullshit it UM and pointing out

760
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: the things like health care is a human right. Okay,

761
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: then we need to give it to people. Look at

762
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: all these lost their health insurance. Let's do that. But

763
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: I I'm I don't know what to do. I don't

764
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: know what to say. I am not gonna go for

765
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm going to do my best to keep

766
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: him out of the out of office another four years

767
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: because it would ruin us. Yeah, and just I mean,

768
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: just keep pushing and don't like let I don't know,

769
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: like there's it's easy to let the aesthetics of like

770
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: moving left or like we're progressive or more progressive than

771
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: fdr um. But politics don't happen in a vacuum. Um.

772
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Aesthetics aren't policy. Aesthetics aren't what people actually believe. And

773
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: a lot of what Biden seems to be doing is

774
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: aesthetics because he's also reaching out to, you know, like Republicans.

775
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: That's part of his whole thing is like we've got

776
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: to get the modern Republicans on our side too. So

777
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: if you're trying to please everybody, what are you, like,

778
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: what's your actual plan? Um? But the other hand, like

779
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: there is also this thing I wanted to there's something

780
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: about Biden. It's it's the transition from just being very

781
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: frustrated with this and um to like the reality of

782
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: like we're in an election, is Trump or this fucking

783
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: guy um The reflective like defensive Biden when Republicans criticize him,

784
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: uh in a way of like, no, you don't get

785
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: to do this, you don't get to play um. Sorry.

786
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Like the other day, I mean, like Sean Hannity uh

787
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: tweeted like some video like you know, I think like

788
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: Joe has misspoken quite a bit, and there's sometimes I'm

789
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: like Joe, just like what are you doing, bud um?

790
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: But he shared some videos like Joe Biden said woked

791
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: like people were woked. He said the word wrong, and

792
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: it was like a huge thing, uh for like half

793
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: a day and it was just like shut up, leave

794
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: leave Joe Biden alone, and just like that sort of

795
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: reflective like coming to his defense because what you're criticizing

796
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: him for him for his nonsense as opposed to this

797
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: other stuff that I think is substantial and worth continuing

798
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: to hope and both of those things can coexist and

799
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, that's not a reason to criticize him.

800
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: Have you seen the president speak, however the important things

801
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: that we should be talking about, just like anyone him talk.

802
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: It's like, look at your president, shut up, go away,

803
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: you can like you can hold you can only criticize

804
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Joe Biden for the reasons like that if you also

805
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: think Donald Trump is of moron, shouldn't be the president. Yes,

806
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that gets to a lot of my issues with I

807
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just like it's incredibly frustrating when people

808
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: bring up valid critiques of Joe Biden as a reason

809
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: not to vote for him. That like, but also the

810
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: person who would win who's not Joe Biden is guilty

811
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: of all of those same things but much worse. Exactly. Yeah,

812
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: and that is that is It's the same thing with

813
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, where it's like she she suffered more for

814
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: vote for the Iraq War than George W. Bush or

815
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: any Republican ever will, Which doesn't mean that it was

816
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: okay that she voted for the Iraq war, but it's

817
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: fucking wild, like, of all of the people in American

818
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: politics to actually pay a concert like a price for it,

819
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: it was Hillary Clinton and not like any Yeah great, yeah,

820
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Speaker 1: the w at the ball game with Ellen but always canceled. Yeah,

821
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: yeah fucking incredible. Um, yeah, yeah, that perspelt like it's

822
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: just important to maintain that perspective and like be aware

823
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: and like I am so because the discourse is gonna

824
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: change too, because during the primary, you're trying to choose

825
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: the best person who represents the things that you want. Um.

826
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Speaker 1: And so those criticisms from the left or during a

827
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Democratic primary, I think are valid and worth discussing, but

828
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: in the context of against Donald Trump maybe less. So.

829
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Speaker 1: Before we end this Hodgepodge episode, Robert, why don't you

830
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: us um a couple of updates from Portland's outside of

831
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: the sniper situation. Yeah, Portland's the you know, the good

832
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: so Portland has is you know, we had this uprising

833
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: that started six weeks or so ago and kind of

834
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: everywhere was involved and now a lot of peles still

835
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: have regular marches, but Portland's really the only city that's

836
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: like has continuously been in a state of uprising. Like

837
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: most nights since this started, Uh, there's been like a

838
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: riot or a civil disturbance. There's been tears, like and

839
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: now the Feds have gotten involved and they've they've they

840
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: they have been On Saturday, they rioted in just an

841
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: unbelievably brutal way. Uh. They like at one point, like

842
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: a homeless man two different actually people started seizuring because

843
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: of the tear gas. There's like video of of U

844
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: S Marshals like kneeling on this guy and holding his

845
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: body down as he sees is, which is the thing

846
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: you don't do when someone has a siege. Um. And

847
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: they know that because they all have basic life saving

848
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: medical training, Like they knew what they were doing. Um.

849
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: There was another point at which like a kid was

850
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: standing in the park playing music on the boom box

851
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: and they shot him from thirty feet away in the

852
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: head with a rubber bullet and shattered his skull and

853
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: permanently changed his life. He's in the hospital now. He

854
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: very nearly died. They shot him right in the fucking head.

855
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: There's video of it. He was holding a boom box.

856
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: They shot him in the fucking head from thirty ft away. Um.

857
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Because these people aren't cops. These are the kind of yeah,

858
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: like the whole like guiding the like literally the entire

859
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: guiding um motive force of my career in life since

860
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I was in mosel Um was like because when I

861
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: when I went to a rack and watched them level

862
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: that city. Watch the same kind of men who shot

863
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: that kid from thirty feet away, Like that's those are

864
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: the that those are the people who burnt Mosell to

865
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: the fucking ground to drive Isis out. Ever since then, UM,

866
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: it has been my overwriting goal to try to stop

867
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: that from happening to to other cities, particularly to cities

868
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: in America, because that's where I know how to affect things. Uh.

869
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: And like the the that's that's the situation that we're

870
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: in right now is the President has basically said, like,

871
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: these are the guys I'm sending in. I'm gonna let

872
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: them beat the ship out of people, um for a

873
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: night or two, and if you all want to continue

874
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: what you're doing, UM, you know I can. I will

875
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: let them off the fucking leash. Like that's the promise

876
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: that's being made here. UM said yeah take over. Yeah, yeah,

877
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: you're fucking city government. Your state government doesn't matter. And

878
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't think people I think people on the ground

879
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: are starting to get that, UM, to understand stand that

880
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: at the very least, we should maybe not be prodding

881
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: them constantly at their courthouse where they have a defensible

882
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: position set up that they're they're using the building as

883
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: a weapon. Last night was weird. I was out last

884
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: night and they fucking stayed inside the whole time like that.

885
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: I spent a huge drink of the night watching like

886
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, teen age boys like karate kicking a courthouse

887
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: and like throwing like just to try to like to

888
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: try to force the federal marshals out to shoot at them.

889
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: It was. It was very strange, um. And it was

890
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: like at the same time as this was all happening, UM,

891
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: at least for an example of something wonderful that started

892
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: to happening for about the last week, there's been a

893
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: guy who set up a rib restaurant in the park

894
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: outside of the Federal Courthouse. It's called Riot Ribs, and

895
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And he's like he's like a black dude

896
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: in his forties and he'll he'll just be out there

897
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: all night and all day in a bulletproof est cooking

898
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: ribs for people. Um, and all the ribs are free.

899
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: Everything's free. Like it's a mutual aid sort of situation.

900
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: People donate to keep it going. Uh. Donovan Farley, who's

901
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: another local journalist journalist and one of the nights when

902
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: like we were all running from the cops and they

903
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: charged out. Was like like defended the rib shack with

904
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: his body and his press pass Like you won't, you won't,

905
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: Like no, don't take our ribs. Yeah. Uh, Riot Ribbs

906
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: is fucking incredible. Uh there, it was, well take our

907
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: ribs and so on. Yeah. At one point last night,

908
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: the protesters who were out in between the Federal Courthouse

909
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: and the Justice Center were lighting random fires and we

910
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: all started to be afraid that like the cops were

911
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: going to come in. And it was just like I

912
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: was standing in line for ribs and like this one

913
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: of the one protesters kind of like walked up to

914
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Riot Ribbs and was like, hey, guys, uh, people are

915
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: starting random fires, so we might wind up having cops

916
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: real soon, just like as a head's up. Uh. So

917
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Riot Ribbs is good. Um yeah. That's one of the

918
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: things that's given me some hope in all this is that,

919
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: like them in in the face of something that's really

920
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: fucking terrifying, it hasn't made anyone in Portland give up.

921
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Um so I I think, and I think they're gonna

922
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: have to shoot a bunch of people dead in the

923
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: street to have a chance of stopping the nightly protests

924
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: in Portland. And I think they'll do that. Um yeah,

925
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: I think they will do that at eventually. Um yeah.

926
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: And the people do We're gonna do that, don't have

927
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: any qualms about doing that. No, And the the the

928
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: unit that has been sent to Portland. One of the

929
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: units is the Packed Force, which is like a multi

930
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: agency but like run by Homeland Security. Um, it's like

931
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: protecting America's um cities and whatever. It's a it's a

932
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement unit made up of sociopathic Special Forces

933
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: veterans um whose entire job and life purpose is breaking

934
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: human bodies. Um that they're sending the streets to deal

935
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: with seventeen year old kids who charged some plywood. Um,

936
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the thing that I've been trying that

937
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: I was trying to warn people about, and it could

938
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: happen here. It's like the thing that has been like

939
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: screaming in the back of my head for three years

940
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: and change now like that it's it's here. Uh, it's here,

941
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: and it's a nationwide problem. Um. And I don't know

942
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: how to stop it at this point. Um. Getting Trump

943
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: out of office will help, But most of what it

944
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: will do is by us a year or two to

945
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: figure out how to actually stop this country from falling

946
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: off of completely falling. Yeah yeah, but that is where

947
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: the stakes are. This is an annihilation question. It's yeah,

948
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: some of the footage is just unbelievable and they're all

949
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: like the sorry, just it's interesting still to me, the

950
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Home Department Plant of Security doing all these things. Um,

951
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: they turn eighteen this year. Uh huh, Yeah, they're finally

952
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: an adult. I'm excited from when they get a drink. Yeah,

953
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: I know they have a few more years left. Um,

954
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: it's wild. I mean, you have been talking about this.

955
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: This is the culmination, not the culmination of your work.

956
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: But like it's a nightmare come true. It's one of

957
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: those things where you're like, you do not have any

958
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: satisfaction in seeing yourself being right. I would imagine no, no, no,

959
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: I did. I really didn't want to be right. I

960
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: really really fucking didn't want to be right because I've

961
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: watched the city die and I don't want to watch

962
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: another city die. Call that it could happen here, but

963
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: it shouldn't, but it, but but I would like it. Um,

964
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about tonight. I might kind of depends

965
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: on the Portland Press corps Um, who again has responded

966
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: magnificently to this. Uh, whatever the funk you want to

967
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 1: call it. Um. We we we We've got a pretty

968
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: good job of setting up shifts. Um. I did have.

969
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: I was out with friends, just like trying to have

970
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: a night of sanity on on Saturday when the Feds rioted,

971
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the one of the great

972
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: local journalists, Garrison, Um was like, hey we could, we

973
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: could use some more people on the ground, and thankfully

974
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: other people volunteered. UM. And I had this moment of

975
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: being like, well, I'm gonna let Garrison and the others

976
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: handle it. And and Garrison's seventeen. Um, So I guess

977
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: I got to finally have that wonderful human experience of

978
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'll let the teenager get go get

979
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: shot at for me. I'm old tonight, I'm gonna let

980
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old take the fucking And he got

981
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: shot with a grenade that night, thankfully in the backpacks,

982
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: and it didn't quite ignite his backpack, but it would

983
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: have if other people hadn't stopped it. UM. Shout out

984
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: to Garrison hungry bow tie on Twitter. He's fucking amazing.

985
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Really really took a turn immediately with that grenade. Well, yeah,

986
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: I guess that does it for us today. On that

987
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: uplifting note, Um, make sure to brush your teeth with beans. Yeah,

988
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: brush brush everything with beans. However many beans there are

989
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: in your house, there's not enough beans. Wipe everything with beans. Look,

990
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: if you're using beans for everything, then soon all barriers

991
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: between beans and the rest of the world will become

992
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: so blurred that you exist in nothing but a continuum

993
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: of beans that is everlasting and unchanging. And isn't that

994
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: what this country is about? Yeah? You really do make

995
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: it seem like beans are the magical fruit. M Yeah,

996
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that, Katie, A lot

997
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: of people are saying that. Um, you guys can check

998
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: us out online at Worst Year Pod on Twitter and Instagram.

999
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for sitting through this hodge Podge episode. Hopefully you

1000
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: learned something. Hopefully you had a laugh for two and um,

1001
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: that's what I got to say. You can follow Katie

1002
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: and at Katie Still on Instagram and Twitter. You can

1003
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: follow Cody at Dr Mr Cody on Instagram and Twitter.

1004
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: You can follow Robert on Twitter, not Instagram and I

1005
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: write okay, um, and so is why Sophie why? Al Right, guys,

1006
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. Not really, you'll hear hear

1007
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, yeah, I mean some of you. Like theoretically,

1008
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: there's got to be one or two people with synesthesia

1009
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: who'll listen to us, so you will see us next Yeah.

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: This is the color blue, signing up everything everything, So again.

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