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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into a Friday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio John Harris alongside the

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Texans Mark vandermir. Hopefully you all having

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day. It's been beautiful in Houston. Fact, I

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Speaker 1: showed the weather app to my wife, who's going to

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Speaker 1: be traveling next week, and I said, jealous. And it's

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Speaker 1: just sun and seventies. Actually in Houston it's going to

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Speaker 1: be up in the mid to high eighties. What yeah,

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Speaker 1: next week, mid to high eighties. Meanwhile, back home at

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Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, seventy two is high. Okay, so there is

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Speaker 1: that big a difference between here and Galston.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible. Actually, and I was by the water for

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Speaker 3: a bit this week. It was great. Not that far south. No,

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Speaker 3: in my spot that I like so much, near the

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Speaker 3: clear Lake Shores area. But I'll say this about the

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Speaker 3: weather because people didn't tune into hero us talk about

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Speaker 3: the weather. But Tuesday was kind of chili Monday Tuesday, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a little chili and then it's freaking pert. Now we're

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Speaker 3: going into the upper eighties again. Okay, Sorry, that's all

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Speaker 3: you got, folks. Two or three days, take it and

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Speaker 3: like it.

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Speaker 4: We'll move on.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, I'll take the whole thing because

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Speaker 3: I I don't mind the heat as much as a

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Speaker 3: lot of other people do, and I'll take a little

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Speaker 3: cold as well. I just don't want the sub freezing stuff, yes,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want the surface of the sun stuff

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 4: But I know it's inevitable in Houston eventually.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Okay, later in the show, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: as He's al Shive.

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Speaker 4: If you haven't heard him on with John Gruden. It

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Speaker 4: is absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic and it's it's interesting because we have been We

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Speaker 1: spent about almost an hour with disease in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four in a production meeting where we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of the disease story. But it feels like the more time,

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Speaker 1: the more interviews that he does, there's more and more

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Speaker 1: stuff that comes out and his connection just to so

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Speaker 1: many different people. We didn't even know at first about

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Speaker 1: the Nick Kaylee situation, Like whoa, he and Nick Kayley

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Speaker 1: are very very close, Uh dude, you know to recruiting

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Uh down the road.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have his hez Shire with John Gruden a

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Speaker 3: Show, but well, I wanted to say something about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a nugget from that that I didn't know, and

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Speaker 4: Of east story. Yeah, that nuggets all the time.

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Speaker 3: His grandfather was poet laureate of Tampa. Unbelievable, which sent

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Speaker 3: me to the internet. What is a poet laureate and

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Speaker 3: who is his grandfather? And it's all there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all there.

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Speaker 4: It's all there.

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Speaker 3: And a poet laureate is some kind of designated poet,

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Speaker 3: you are the official poet of that city or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: And his grandfather has all this material online.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of cool to see that aspect of

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Speaker 3: his history when I never knew it before.

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Speaker 4: But that's coming up later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming up later. It's really good. You'll hear

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Speaker 1: it in our last two segments. It was great stuff

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Speaker 1: with John Gruden. Gruden was it Gruden lives in Tampa

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Speaker 1: and it was so funny. He was sort of incredulous

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Speaker 1: to the fact that this was all happening right under

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Speaker 1: was really it was really really cool. Then obviously got

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Speaker 1: into you know, a lot of the Texans stuff with disease,

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Speaker 1: uh running the defense and it was it was really

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Speaker 4: But figure, it's a Friday, let's have a little bit

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Speaker 1: So Mark, I've come up with some either or questions

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's go. Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready now, I've not prepared. I've not seen these,

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Speaker 3: so this is off the fly now.

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Speaker 1: Typically either or doesn't really come with a theme. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we've been talking so much about the team and

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Speaker 1: the pieces, what they've done in free agency, what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do in the draft.

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Speaker 4: We've done all of that.

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Speaker 1: But eventually we got to play the games, and we've

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Speaker 1: got nine road games in eight home games. So these

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Speaker 1: either ors are related to the schedule.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just so everybody else, we don't know when we

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Speaker 4: We don't know the order.

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Speaker 1: We just know who and where right the when I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just keep where might be.

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Speaker 4: In doubt too with a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of games potentially potentially, So here we go.

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Speaker 1: You got my attention with a version of this the

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Speaker 1: other day, Either or.

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Speaker 4: The Dallas game. Yeah, would you have it either first?

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Speaker 1: Game or any time later in the year, because we

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Speaker 1: know what happened. It's twenty fifth anniversary, two thousand and two,

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, that game, and could I see the NFL

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Speaker 1: putting that game on Sunday night, Houston against Dallas. Heck, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dallas is a staple on Sunday Night. We should be

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Speaker 1: pretty good. That could be a first game. Would you

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Speaker 1: have the Dallas game either the first game or later

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Speaker 3: I say it's a great idea to go ahead and

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Speaker 3: have it as the first game. Okay, I think in

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Speaker 3: the cell lebration nature of things, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 3: do it. Twenty fifth anniversary season open up against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if NBC is going to see it

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Speaker 3: that way because that was an ESPN game at the time.

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Speaker 3: That was back when Sunday Night football was not the

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Speaker 3: marquee primetime game. It was still Monday Night football. Now

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Speaker 3: it's Sunday Night football, and kids, we don't have time

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Speaker 3: for the whole history of lesson here, but I'll tell you,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if NBC is going to see it

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Speaker 3: that way, and if they don't, I could also see

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Speaker 3: it being a Monday night game because it won't be

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Speaker 3: a doubleheader on Monday night.

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Speaker 4: So I could see ESPN saying, oh, you.

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Speaker 3: Don't want that one, We'll take it because this is

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth anniversary. Now, it's not literally the twenty

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Speaker 3: fifth anniversary of the game, because it's twenty four years later, right,

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Speaker 3: so it's the twenty fifth season of Texans football. But

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Speaker 3: I could see that celebration happening this way, where you

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Speaker 3: get the Cowboys and Texans at NRG opening Day. Now,

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Speaker 3: the downside of it is this, Johnny, you have nine

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Speaker 3: road games, eight home games, so you burn up a

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Speaker 3: home game and now after Week one, well we're home

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Speaker 3: for seven on the road for nine.

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Speaker 4: But look, great way.

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Speaker 2: To mix it up.

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Speaker 3: We know there's gonna be some wonky aspects to this schedule,

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Speaker 3: because there are to every schedule. So I vote for

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Speaker 3: opening the season against the Cowboys at home. Let's have

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Speaker 3: a blast, and let's rip off the band aid on

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth anniversary thing too. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: be all distracted. I don't know if it's a distraction

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Speaker 3: for the players at all, Probably not, but I think

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Speaker 3: it's a great way for us to start out this campaign.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it some of them weren't even alive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which when I say that out loud just makes

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Speaker 1: me like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that's facts. It's there. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So let's say the Dallas game is not put as

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Speaker 1: the very first home game for the Texans. Better first

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Speaker 1: home game. Keep it very simple. Either Indianapolis or Jacksonville. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I we've had We've had these two a lot of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two it was Indy. Yeah, twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: not the first. I think it was the second game.

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Speaker 4: Okay. You're saying though, first home game, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're super first home game, first time that

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Speaker 1: because it could be like twenty eighteen where we went

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Speaker 1: the third game was against the Giants and that was

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Speaker 1: our first home game. Better first home game, first time

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Speaker 1: the fans get to see the full squad against either

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Speaker 3: Are we healthy? I'm gonna say Jacksonville. I want to

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Speaker 3: take them on early, and I too. Maybe they decide

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Speaker 3: the schedule makers, Mike North and company and your former

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Speaker 3: quarterback Blake Jones, who works on this stuff, Maybe they

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Speaker 3: decide that Jacksonville and the Texans should have a down

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Speaker 3: or second to last week, whatever the case is, Johnny,

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Speaker 3: answer this for me. What's the easiest and I'll put

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Speaker 3: that in air quotes big time, because there's no easy

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Speaker 3: game in the NFL, but just on paper, the easiest

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Speaker 3: road game the Texans have. Okay, So would you take

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Speaker 3: opening at Tennessee on the road obviously, then Jacksonville at home.

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Speaker 4: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: I take that.

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Speaker 3: It's rare that you go back to back division in

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Speaker 4: That's the case.

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Speaker 3: What's the second easiest road game when you look at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably Cleveland. I'll open up at Cleveland. Oh yes,

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Speaker 3: all right, sign me up for this. I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: I'll take that, Monty, I'll open up at Cleveland and

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Speaker 3: I'll come home to play Jacksonville. Boom done. I'll take

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Speaker 3: because I don't know what they're trotting out there. Quarterback

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Boy. Yeah, so yeah, I think Jacksonville would be the

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Speaker 1: one i'd want early that. I think both teams would

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Speaker 1: be healthy relatively speaking. They're not kind of in that

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Speaker 1: early season groove yet. And I got the feeling we

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Speaker 1: more people that we talked to like Jacksonville, Houston, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's got a little that's got a little spice now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh definitely, it's got a little bit of spice now,

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Speaker 4: which I kind of like. It's nice. Okay.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, in a month when we're doing

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Speaker 3: pre schedule shows, I'll probably change my prolection to play

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Speaker 3: the Colts because they don't know what they're doing yet.

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Speaker 4: A quarterback Daniel Jones might be hurt. Let's go or

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Speaker 4: Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 3: I know he did some things here last year, but

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Speaker 3: come on, I'll take that because I want the easiest path.

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Speaker 3: But then again, it gets hard later. But you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe the Jags get hurt later, So I said Jags.

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Speaker 3: Now I'll stick to that for a while. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: stick to that for a while. Best, or let me

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Speaker 3: say better, because it's only two. Better road trip all.

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Speaker 1: Things consider, Okay, okay, all things considered.

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Speaker 4: Better road trip either Green Bay or Los Angeles. Totally different,

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Speaker 4: totally different.

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Speaker 1: You go to Green Bay, you get that start of

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Speaker 1: the NFL feel, you might get an autumn game in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, which we went there in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: It was incredible leaves change. I mean, it was just

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Speaker 4: So and if you're a fan and you're going out.

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Speaker 3: Always going to be Green Bay, Okay, I mean Green

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Speaker 1: I've always been in a mindset having I grew up

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Speaker 4: But they're not. But they're not, and there's forty five

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Speaker 3: Green Bay's and oddity of an exactly it's not as

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Speaker 4: But going to Green Bay's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And if you can ever make it on a road trip,

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Speaker 3: because that is kind of like going to Canton, really,

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Speaker 4: That we definitely need to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're doing a little either or with the twenty

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Speaker 3: The natural answer is Pittsburgh because they should be better.

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Speaker 3: what did we hold them to? Six points? So who's

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Speaker 3: You know, in the quarterback books, it's the Steelers, it's

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Speaker 4: Talked to the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: You know it's really now Matt Ryan legend, really good quarterback, right,

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Speaker 4: So to me, the Steelers, you don't know who they are.

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Speaker 3: And the Browns had all that defense last year, but

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Speaker 3: shock you and surprise you. It's almost a JV version

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Speaker 4: I guess. So, yeah, they're looking for the offense.

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Speaker 4: Go out on that limb.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you in one of the things

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was this week two and it

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Speaker 1: it really it really was. Okay, who's the quarterback for

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has yet to declare. I gotta feel he's

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Speaker 1: I said it going into that game, and I still

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Speaker 4: But they were flawed.

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Speaker 3: They weren't what they were when we played them in

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Speaker 4: Yeah yes.

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Speaker 1: And people are like, oh, you shouldn't be cheering for

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Speaker 1: I want those suckers. I don't want them because them

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Speaker 4: Okay more. Tray Waite is saying, this more difficult quarterback

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's one guy that we have faced before, but not

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Speaker 1: We have faced one time here in Houston. So we

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Speaker 3: I think, as great as Burrow is, we don't know

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Speaker 4: And we know the Eagles are going to give you

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Speaker 3: A down year for the Eagles right now is making

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Speaker 4: This is an elite organization. I'll call them that.

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Speaker 3: And I heard was it Sean and Seth playing a

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Speaker 4: He's a super Bowl winner, He's been through another that.

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Speaker 3: This guy's das really good quarterballs the playoffs every year,

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Speaker 4: He wins games. He doesn't always look pretty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is a player who we're gonna look back

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Speaker 4: But when you look at his his career, the.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers with who with Steelers? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that was on the road at home. Yeah, Aaron

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Speaker 4: More difficult situation is going there to play Hurts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna pick a Monday night football game. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick a Monday night football game.

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Speaker 4: You tell me.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pick any of the teams at home,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that would be Fuck. That'd be great.

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Speaker 1: It's still something about the Ravens, you though. We we

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Speaker 1: Until we beat the Ravens kind of fully loaded, don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll.

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Speaker 4: Still be worried about them. So going on the road

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Speaker 1: It's tough to win on the road on a Monday night.

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Speaker 1: It's just a tough all round situation. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: So I can't pick Jacksonville. Again, you can't pick Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to pick either Philly or green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Which one would you rather play on a Monday night? Okay,

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Speaker 1: on the road.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd rather play green Bay on the road

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Speaker 3: on a Monday night. Philadelphia concerns me.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia on Monday night would just kind of like, oh

444
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Speaker 1: my god, Eagles fans. Yes, yes, he says with a

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Speaker 1: question mark. I mean I think in that game they're

446
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Speaker 1: gonna be gassed up. You're not giving me a time

447
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Speaker 1: of year either.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

449
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Speaker 3: There look neither place late October right in a million year.

450
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Speaker 3: Neither place is fun to go to later in the year,

451
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Speaker 3: and the weather in late October. Either place, it could

452
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Speaker 3: go really well, it could go not so well. Green

453
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Speaker 3: Bay is more likely to not be good, but you'd

454
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Speaker 3: never know. I think I'll pick green Bay. I just

455
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Speaker 3: think green Bay is an easier team to deal with overall,

456
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Speaker 3: you know, right now, the way we're looking at it.

457
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Speaker 3: In March, okay, things change and Jordan Love If you're

458
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Speaker 3: a Packer fan, it's funny you look at Jordan lovel

459
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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Look, they're fine, they go to the playoffs every year.

461
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Speaker 2: They're great.

462
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Speaker 3: Right The Packer fans not all, but some are saying,

463
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Speaker 3: did we let a better quarterback walk out the door?

464
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Speaker 3: Or a guy who we should not let walk out

465
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Speaker 3: the door at all? We should sign him, we should

466
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Speaker 3: let them compete. There's a lot of concern about Jordan

467
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Speaker 3: Love long term, his franchise viability and hurts too among

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Speaker 3: the Eagles fans.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I have more respect for what the Eagles have done

471
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Speaker 3: because we've been there than I do for the Packers.

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Speaker 3: And I love Lafleur. I think it's a heck of

473
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Speaker 3: a coach. But yeah, i'd pick green Bay over that one. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 3: and I think it would be cool to be primetime

475
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Speaker 3: green Bay Monday Night. That'd be a cool environment. I

476
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Speaker 3: prefer not being in either place. I'd like to have

477
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Speaker 3: a close trip. You know, give me Monday night, give.

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Speaker 1: Me a game in each place. But I just don't

479
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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be it. I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to play one of those in prime time. Look, you're

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Speaker 1: I just have a feeling.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna put the Colts in primetime at all,

483
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Speaker 3: will they Look, you can't.

484
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Speaker 4: You can't shut two teams out.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to put the Colts in

486
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Speaker 1: primetime at all, not against us at all.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be one game for them, and

488
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Speaker 4: what would it be. It would be at home and

489
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Speaker 4: who Jags, Jags?

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Speaker 2: Geez?

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Speaker 4: Not against us? Why not against us?

492
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Speaker 2: Maybe?

493
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Speaker 4: I mean we have some cachet I mean we do

494
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Speaker 4: them to jack.

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Speaker 1: But I just think with Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly, Dallas, we

496
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Speaker 1: have a lot of the prime time.

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Speaker 4: Suspects on our schedule. Yeah, but they have good I mean,

498
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Speaker 4: they're gonna have a reason as well.

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Speaker 3: But think about it like this, Johnny, are you going

500
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Speaker 3: to shut two teams out of a division from primetime games?

501
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Speaker 3: They bought it before, both the Jags and the Titans.

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Speaker 3: You're out of prime time? Yeah, they've done it before.

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Speaker 3: Last year, I think the Colts did not have prime Dad.

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Speaker 4: Oh they did.

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Speaker 3: They had a Monday Night with San Francisco. Wasn't it

506
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Speaker 3: a Monday Night that's right late in the year with Philippiyah. Yeah,

507
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: they just so they had that. I'm sure there have

508
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Speaker 3: been years where the Colts where the Colts and the Jags,

509
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Speaker 3: not the Colts and the Jags. The Titans and the

510
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Speaker 3: Jags that shut out from primetime, both of them, and

511
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Speaker 3: they match them up on a Thursday night before Thursday

512
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Speaker 3: Night would belong to Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Well, I believe in twenty twenty three, before we got

514
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Speaker 1: flex that last game again, we had Colts, we had nothing.

515
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Speaker 1: We were all new games. And I think the Jags

516
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Speaker 1: are the same. No, no, the Jags were not the same.

517
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Speaker 1: Not they were coming off playoffs, with their run off

518
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's right, But I want to yeah, yeah,

519
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: I think maybe, But I think you were rare.

520
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Speaker 4: I think it's rare.

521
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Speaker 3: We are two teams in the division shut out from primetime, and.

522
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Speaker 4: I don't think it will happen to the AFC South

523
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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the three teams in the Jags

525
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Speaker 1: and I and I've said this before, I do think

526
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Speaker 1: the Tight are taking strides, but I don't think they're

527
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Speaker 1: quite there yet.

528
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Speaker 3: If it's a New York on their helmet, they'd have

529
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Speaker 3: a prime time Yeah, well exactly.

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Speaker 1: The Giants will get eight primetime games now that John

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Speaker 1: harm Boughts the head coach.

532
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Speaker 4: Maybe one of those of the Texans, maybe it is.

533
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they they're coming here, so maybe we'll

534
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: see last time they were here, they they put a

535
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Speaker 1: number on us, Eli Manning at Saquon Barkley went off,

536
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: JJ had three sacks and we went to zero to

537
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Speaker 1: three on the season. Is that's so I'm familiar with three?

538
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: And the sky was falling. The sky was falling. But

539
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Speaker 1: then we went on a run and got to the

540
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Speaker 1: playoffs and then t Y Hilton in the mask. And

541
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Speaker 1: by the way, I didn't even mention it. Yes, shape

542
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Speaker 1: he retired. He had retired in my mind long ago.

543
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Speaker 1: So like the whole thing him retired, Like why was

544
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Speaker 1: he waiting for a call? I don't know what he

545
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Speaker 1: was waiting.

546
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Speaker 3: I don't get that you're retiring, and we look, we know.

547
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Speaker 3: It's almost like you haven't gone out with the girl

548
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: for three years, right, and and you call her up

549
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Speaker 3: and say I'm breaking up with you.

550
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Speaker 4: It's like we have not been going out. I don't

551
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: know if you're aware of this, but we're not dating anymore. Yeah, exactly,

552
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: that's exactly what it's like. I don't have to call.

553
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Speaker 1: I feel like that situation's happened to me before I

554
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Speaker 1: got a call like, hey, we're broken up. Yeah, I

555
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: kind of thought we were back in nineteen ninety, but

556
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Speaker 1: that's a different story.

557
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Speaker 4: Oh, I couldn't.

558
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 3: Remember how my high school girlfriend and I broke up

559
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Speaker 3: because we kind of went the separate college is and

560
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: saw each other a little bit drifted apart. So my

561
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Speaker 3: son was asking me because he's still dating in his

562
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Speaker 3: high school sweetheah. Yeah, So I messaged my high school

563
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Speaker 3: girlfriend you, Yeah, that's fine, I mean to take.

564
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Speaker 4: Up with you. Yeah, I said, how did we stop?

565
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Speaker 4: Like what declared us over?

566
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Speaker 3: I can't even remember, And she said she messaged back,

567
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: technically we're still dating. So I didn't know this brilliant

568
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Speaker 3: good and it was a good cutback by good comeback.

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

570
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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna tell you about the time that

571
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Speaker 1: I broke up with a girl because I wanted to

572
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Speaker 1: focus on baseball.

573
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Speaker 4: But that's a story for a different day.

574
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Speaker 1: And yes, true story, a lot of true stories coming

575
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Speaker 1: up next with his z's al Shire, he sat down

576
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Speaker 1: with John Gruden's Face fantastic stuff. We'll have the first

577
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Speaker 1: part of that for you next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Friday, isshear Texans All Access simon.

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Speaker 1: Your host John Harris football analysts, side line reporter. I

580
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Speaker 1: saw some internet noise today generated by a an NFL

581
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Speaker 1: writer who normally follows that team to the north, you know,

582
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Speaker 1: the one with the star making it common about trading

583
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Speaker 1: for azz out Shire.

584
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Speaker 4: I almost found on my chair. I'm like, you gotta

585
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Speaker 4: be kidding me.

586
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Speaker 1: Z's is Houston, Texan and he's not going anywhere, and

587
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Speaker 1: he caught up with John Gruden. This was fantastic stuff.

588
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Speaker 1: Gruden lives in Tampa. AZ's from Tampa. This is a

589
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Speaker 1: hell of a discussion. I listened to this whole thing,

590
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Speaker 1: forwards and backwards. It is absolutely tremendous. Take a listen

591
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Speaker 1: to Z's Wick Gruden in its entirety.

592
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Speaker 6: Disease l Shire, I love that name.

593
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Speaker 2: Man.

594
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Speaker 6: You know I talk about Houston Texan defense and I

595
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 6: get excited, man because you guys understand issue. Man, but

596
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 6: your linebackers, the names of your linebackers.

597
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 4: We got a Shire and we got heavy.

598
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Speaker 6: Tell Attilla, I just got to tell you, man, I

599
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 6: am a big fan as everybody in Tampa, Florida's. I

600
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 6: don't think anybody knows your story, but you're a You're

601
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 6: a miracle, the leading tackler of I think the best

602
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 6: defense in football as are here. He's from Tampa and

603
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 6: went to Hillsboro High School. And you talk about a

604
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Speaker 6: guy that had to deal with adversity. I mean the

605
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Speaker 6: stories that I hear, it's amazing that you and your

606
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 6: family have been able to survive. I mean your house

607
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 6: burned down. How many siblings you have? Seven?

608
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Speaker 1: Eight?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you lost your house, you don't have

610
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Speaker 6: a place to stay, and now here you are. Can

611
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Speaker 6: you just summarize what it was like at the beginning

612
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Speaker 6: as you were embarking on this journey.

613
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Speaker 2: Man, you know, just thinking back on it.

614
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 5: Honestly, I revisit all the things I experienced, you know,

615
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: a lot, because it really, when you know, I realize

616
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 5: where I am, it just always keeps me ground.

617
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: It keeps me humble, just hopeful and.

618
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: Trusting in God because you know, like you said earlier,

619
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Speaker 5: I truly believe like it's nothing short of a miracle

620
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Speaker 5: that I made it this far. And there was no

621
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Speaker 5: script that I ever could have wrote that could have

622
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 5: got me to where I'm at now, you know, And

623
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Speaker 5: going back, you know, I started playing football when I

624
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Speaker 5: was twelve.

625
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: My grandfather signed me up for football.

626
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Speaker 5: You know, my grandfather was actually the poet Laurier, the

627
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Speaker 5: Tampa James Tokeley.

628
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Senior, and so he signed me up for football.

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Speaker 5: He's telling the coach, I'm super fast, got hands like

630
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Speaker 5: Jerry Rice, and I don't. I'm nothing, like I have

631
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: no skill, no nothing. He gets off the phone. I

632
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 5: remember like slapping him up up top of the head

633
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, like, why.

634
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: Did you just say all that crazy stuff like you

635
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: know I'm not good? And he just told me. It's like, man,

636
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: you gotta believe in yourself, and I believe in you.

637
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Speaker 5: And I remember going out there to practice this because

638
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Speaker 5: of what my grandfather said. They put me with the

639
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Speaker 5: biggest group of kids, and dude, I got trucked through

640
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: doing Oklahoma drills. I was playing running back and it

641
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: was this white boy with this big old mohawk that

642
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 5: just decleted me. And I think I realized two things, like.

643
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: I was not ready to play football, and then too, if.

644
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Speaker 5: I did play football, I damn sure don't want to

645
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 5: get hit, so I want to be the guy that's

646
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Speaker 5: tackling people.

647
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Speaker 2: So I actually quit.

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Speaker 5: You know, I had to take a city bus to

649
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Speaker 5: even go to practice because I was standing in the

650
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Speaker 5: motel at the time, and I remember on the whole

651
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Speaker 5: way I finally convinced my mom to let me play,

652
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Speaker 5: and I'm leaving this first practice and I'm crying the whole.

653
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Speaker 2: Way on the bus. You didn't want to know.

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Speaker 5: I know there was no chance like this, dude. I

655
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Speaker 5: acted like I was hurt the rest of practice because

656
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Speaker 5: I got hit. And so I literally go home and

657
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Speaker 5: my mom is there and she's asked me, like how

658
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Speaker 5: I was practice and not just bald crying like me

659
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Speaker 5: and my mom, that's my best friend. And I just

660
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: balled out crying, like you know, I thought football was

661
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: gonna be our way out, you know, but I suck,

662
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: Like what do I do? And I never forget my

663
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 5: mom like this was these It's two situations were two

664
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: of the biggest. You know, I think momentum shifters for me,

665
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: just in my young, young, young mind.

666
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: You're twelve, thirteen years old.

667
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: And she told me, like all you can do is

668
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: trust in God and work as hard as you can.

669
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, it sounds great, but like what

670
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 5: if I do all that and I still don't make it?

671
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: And she told me, she was like that which is

672
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: for you should not pass you by and that which

673
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 5: passes you by is not for you. Say that again,

674
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: that which is for you shall not pass you by,

675
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: and that which passes you by is not for you.

676
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: And she told me that all you can do is

677
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: trust in God and work as hard as you can,

678
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: and if it's meant for you, no matter what anybody

679
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: tries to do, you know it'll it'll never miss you,

680
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: and the other way around as well. So you know,

681
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: really just in those two situations, you know, I learned

682
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: from my grandfather, you know that you have to believe

683
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: in yourself. But I also learned from my mother that

684
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: if you do the work and trust in God, we

685
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: shouldn't be afraid of the failure. And so those two

686
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: things really kind of shaped the origin story of me,

687
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: and you know, my pursuit in football. So I still

688
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 5: quit the team and then not go back, but every

689
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: single day I just trained by myself, and I would

690
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: literally just take the books from school and put it

691
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: all the book bag and run around the block literally

692
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 5: like do little ladder drills in the dirt.

693
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 6: Like twenty five, You're in the Pro Bowl. Congratulations. I mean,

694
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: you had no money. You couldn't even eat three meals

695
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 6: a day. You had one meal a day. You lived

696
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: in one room in a hotel with eight siblings, and

697
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 6: you had no clothes, and you didn't know how to

698
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 6: get the practice, how to get home. Your mom sacrificed everything,

699
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: and somebody found the Earl Guarcia, the Hillsboro Terriers, whatever

700
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 6: that commercial we did. Yeah, you go down there and

701
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: you just you get in the channel and you fell

702
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 6: in love with football. And I want to know about

703
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 6: ray Lewis. He's playing linebacker the Ravens, one of my

704
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 6: all time favorite badasses. Your mom loved the Ravens and

705
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: she loved ray Lewis. And because she loved ray Lewis,

706
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: you started listening to ray Lewis and his message resonated

707
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: with you. What what was the message that you remember

708
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: hearing from ray Lewis and really.

709
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Fired you up.

710
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: I just remember like watching that whole run that they

711
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: had to win that Super Bowl, I want to say

712
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 5: two thousand and thirteen or twelve, I can't remember, but

713
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: whatever year that was, and watching like every single game

714
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: throughout the playoffs. You know, I remember he tourist peck

715
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: or something, so he missed like a whole bunch of time,

716
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: ended up coming back late in the year for the

717
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: playoffs and stuff, and like every game that they won,

718
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: like was just a nail biter, like crazy game. I

719
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 5: remember Jacobe Jones, you know, God rest his soul, like

720
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: that catch that he had against Denver and like like

721
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: just the whole game. And after every one of those games,

722
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 5: they'd interview Ray because you know, it's like this is

723
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 5: his last ride type of thing, and it's just him

724
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: talking about how he just completely trusted in God and

725
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: just like if you trust in God and you do

726
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: the work.

727
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: And it was the same thing that my mother told me.

728
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: So when I heard that and heard him say that,

729
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 5: it was like, WHOA, Like, it's not my mom said,

730
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: somebody who's like doing exactly what I want to do.

731
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Passion.

732
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: I mean the passion he played with, the passion he

733
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: practiced with. That's what I see in you, man. I mean,

734
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: you go to Florida Atlantic and that's it's on the beach, right.

735
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are stadiums like overlooking the.

736
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: One that's the biggest.

737
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: You're down there. In twenty seventeen, I remember saying, damn,

738
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: we got a Hillsboro Terrier. You're making a lot of

739
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: tackles at FAU and then in I think eighteen, you

740
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 6: hurt your knee in practice and God's testing you again,

741
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, you're back to grinding trying

742
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: to find a way. You don't even get drafted, man

743
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: forty nine ers drafted, and you got to prove yourself

744
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 6: all over again. Did you ever just say hell with it.

745
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go back to hang out with Gruden back

746
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 6: in Tampa make commercials.

747
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: It's so funny because I swear throughout all those things,

748
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: I truly believe, you know, God prepares everybody for their

749
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: journey and the test that they're going to go through,

750
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 5: you know, so strategically and so perfect. And I think

751
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: when I went through that, you know, going through term

752
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: my e cl Like if I just told you my

753
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: college story and like that part and I was raising

754
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: my two little brothers, I was a legal guardian while

755
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: I was in college, and so it's like to say

756
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 5: just that part, you'd be like, damn.

757
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: That's the hell of a story that he overcame that.

758
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: And then we go back to what I just told

759
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: you about when I was homeless and dealing with all

760
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: those things, and like, damn, that's the hell of a story,

761
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: so to put all that into that one man will

762
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: go through all of these things. It's like I feel

763
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 5: like nobody but God can align those things because I

764
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 5: feel like each one of them shaped me and who

765
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 5: I was. And I remember, like when I tore my

766
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: e cl in that field. You know, Lane Kiffin was

767
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: my coach, monte you know, God rest his soul. Like

768
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: it's literally like I never get the Super Bowl ring

769
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 5: that you guys had.

770
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: He gave me that ring for like three years.

771
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: I had that ring from the top twenty twenty seven

772
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: until my rookie year. We actually went to the Super

773
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: Bowl and I gave him his ring back. I'm like,

774
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: I do not need this anymore, you know. But yeah,

775
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: I just remember sitting there talking to them on the

776
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: after after I found out I tore my cl and

777
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: just boohoo crying, And I remember Lane and Montea both

778
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 5: like I promise you you're gonna play ten years in

779
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 5: the NFL.

780
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Like Lane actually text me about this after I made

781
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl.

782
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: He's like, what did I tell you back then when

783
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 5: we were in college, And he's like, you're going to

784
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: play ten years in the NFL. You're gonna be a

785
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: Pro Bowler's gonna be an All Pro one day. I

786
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: believe in you. I believe in what you can do.

787
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 6: There's nobody out there that knows who you are in

788
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: terms of how you became a Pro Bowl linebacker. And

789
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: then no one has any Everybody looks at you and they,

790
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 6: oh God, they think.

791
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: That you're this you know, this thug.

792
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, It's just you're Houston Texan.

793
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 6: You know, you hit Trevor Lawrence. You have this bad

794
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 6: boy image. You know, I went through this butte perfectly.

795
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 6: You know, Vontez got kicked out of the league and

796
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 6: it pissed me off, and it really still pisses me off.

797
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: But anyways, no one has any idea the sacrifices, the

798
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 6: testing that you had to go through to make it. Man,

799
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: And when I watch you play, I tell you what,

800
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 6: I have more fun watching you play this Houston Texan defense.

801
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: You got to really be proud of your.

802
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: Accomplished especially I think when you you know, even for example,

803
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl stuff just ended. You know, that's the

804
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: first time for me really that I've been around my

805
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 5: peers that's not been you know, in the game or

806
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: after a game. You know, just casually hanging out with

807
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 5: all these guys around the league talking to them, and

808
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: like the amount of like respect that I was given

809
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: and every guy talking to me, guys that I didn't

810
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 5: you know, even knew were paying attention to me or whatever.

811
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 5: I might not even ever play it against. It's like, dude,

812
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: like the way you play the game is different, Like

813
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: you know, so many people have came up to me.

814
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: Just encouragement a great player style.

815
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: Man. It's like and I truly do feel like powerful

816
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 5: pound like to I am one of the most physical,

817
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: not the most physical player in the league, because I

818
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: feel like it just consistently and when you watch the tape,

819
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: you got to make a decision, you know. And that's

820
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: like when you play against us, when you play against

821
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: the Textans. It's the mentality that we have. And that's

822
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 5: just something that I've always played with, you know. Going

823
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: back to talking about watching guys like ray Lewis play

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 5: the game, it's like, no, like, I just think that

825
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 5: it's got to be played a certain way. And you know,

826
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 5: it's especially now in the day and age were living

827
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 5: where we want to see all these touchdowns and all

828
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 5: this stuff. That stuff is nice and cute but like

829
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: you gotta let you know, this is still a physical sport.

830
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 6: You're you're a real soft spoken guy. I'm kind of

831
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: thinking I thought you talk like that, but you're a

832
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 6: really soft spoken guy. Very Obviously, faith has a lot

833
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 6: to do with your upbringing and your current, you know,

834
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 6: day to day approach. Uh, how do you sound?

835
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: You called?

836
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: You wear that green dot?

837
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: You do?

838
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: So?

839
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: Do you get it from Matt Burke the decordinator and

840
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 6: give me an example like what he gives you.

841
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Watch wat He'll tell me all different types of indicators.

842
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: It's so funny because him and Demico at one point

843
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: called the place you know differently meet called it all

844
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: last year and then this year he passed it over

845
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: to Burke, and that was kind of like something that

846
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 5: they had talked about but wasn't sure. So it was

847
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: cool to see coach Burke get the opportunity and then

848
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 5: you know, for us to continue to do what we did.

849
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: I think it helped everybody. Helped me kind of be

850
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: able to take.

851
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: A step back and be that head coach and get

852
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 5: get his hand in everything, you know, not just defensive stuff.

853
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 5: But then also I think it just like with Coach Burke,

854
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: he reminded me a lot like Coach Solid, where he's

855
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 5: like very calming, you know me is calm but fiery.

856
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: He's still a linebacker where Burke I think.

857
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: Because he he kind of is like more even killed,

858
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: like calm. It's like when he's telling me stuff, he's

859
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: telling me, but I might I might be barking back

860
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: at him more than he's actually barking at me.

861
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 6: When you get the huddle. Let me hear how you sound.

862
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: When I get in the huddle. First thing is like

863
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm telling everybody, hey, get in here, like we got

864
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 2: to get in here. Let me feel like break breaking

865
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: all right, here we go and now say whatever the.

866
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: Call is, give me one, give me something.

867
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: Come on, I really don't want to say it got overcovered,

868
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 5: too overcovered to China overcover to overcovered too ready break

869
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: and then we all just break the huddle down. And

870
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: then when you break the right close right, close up, hey, mikes,

871
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: left cloud right, whatever the call is, it's like you know,

872
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: talking to me.

873
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: The biggest thing you told me.

874
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 5: Is I was a rookie because my voice is very soft,

875
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 5: and I understand that. And he would get on me

876
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 5: every day when we're in San Francisco him. Salad would

877
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: always like, try to throw me your bone and meet

878
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 5: when I come to the sideline would be like, did.

879
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: You know what you're doing?

880
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm like yeah, but he can hear Salad tell me

881
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: to remind me something. But the one thing he always

882
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: teld me is like, hey, you got to use your

883
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: linebacker voice. Like it's okay, you get off that feel

884
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: like I get you, don't got to act all crazy off.

885
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: I hear you.

886
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 6: I'm watching you on TV. I hear. That's why I'm

887
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 6: kind of surprised when you get.

888
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Because it's just like it's different, you know.

889
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: I think that's the thing is like football has been

890
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: the ultimate equalizer. I met you when I was fifteen

891
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: years old doing that commercial, and to think that at

892
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 5: twenty eight years old, you know, I'd be sitting here

893
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 5: with you talking about all the things we're talking about,

894
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 5: like it's a blessing.

895
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: But that's what football can do for you.

896
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: And it's a game, but it's something that I care

897
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: about so deeply because it changed my entire life, and

898
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: it changed so many people's lives, yours included obviously, And

899
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 5: like I do not take that for granted, not one bit.

900
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: And every time I step on that field, it's an

901
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: obligation that I have to play the game the way

902
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be played. And one hundred percent when

903
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 5: I see guys and I'm on the field with guys

904
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: like dude, I want to try to hit you as

905
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: hard as I possibly can. I want you to be

906
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: scared to catch that ball, but I still hope that

907
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 5: you go home to your family. I just want to win.

908
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: I just want to beat you on that rep, on

909
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 5: that play because I know, whether you're trying to be

910
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 5: mister nice guy or not, you want the same thing too.

911
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: That dude can play from my team any time, anywhere.

912
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: That's some good stuff with Gruden. You know, not a

913
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: natural interviewer, but he got to some really important stuff

914
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and obviously he knew his hes' his background, and so

915
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I made it that much better.

916
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: All Right, there's a second half of that. We'll say

917
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: that for.

918
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: Next week because that's pretty evergreen. And you know what,

919
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: let's keep his ease out shying our life for as

920
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: long as possible. Why we get back, Mark and I

921
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: sat down, and I know this happens sometimes. You know

922
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: when you're getting ready for a test, when you were

923
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: in college or even in high school and you wanted to, like,

924
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: just give me the facts, man, just give me what

925
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: I need for that test.

926
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: Well, Mark, and I did that for free agency. What

927
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: do you need to know?

928
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: We'll give you little primers of everything the Texans have

929
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: done since free agency started next right here in Texas

930
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: All Access. It's been a free agent frenzy for the Texans.

931
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: What have they done?

932
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Take a listen, let's start here, because five offensive linemen

933
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: have you either been signed or re signed by this

934
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: football team? And Teller leads the way as far as

935
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: headlaves go.

936
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Texas been looking for a guy of his status,

937
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: the culture he brings, the way he thinks about playing

938
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: the game, the people that he moves out of the

939
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: way so the run game can work. I love everything

940
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: about Wyatt Teller, and I think that's gonna rub off

941
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: on the other offensive Lineman's gonna rub off on the offense.

942
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: And I just think that nastiness that he has is

943
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna be something this offense has been looking for for.

944
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: A long time and now finally have.

945
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: The former cult Brayden Smith offensive tackle can play guard,

946
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: but I think we see him as a right tackle

947
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: he's a Texan.

948
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, he moves well.

949
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: He has been one of the highest rated tackles in

950
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: the run game throughout the NFL, and now he plays

951
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: for this squad. It's been tough watching him wear that horseshoe,

952
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: but now he wears Toro's head.

953
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 4: On his helmet, and that is going to be very beautiful.

954
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he is in the Fold

955
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: and because of the Wyatt Teller signing, because of that

956
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Ingram resigning, it makes sense that Brad Smith's gonna stay

957
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: right tackle.

958
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: I believe Evan Brown, former Cardinal here he is. He's versatile,

959
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: can play center of guard, probably a guard.

960
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: But how do you see this?

961
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can play either and I know that's one

962
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: of the things I've always loved. I know that Texans

963
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: like to see that versatility. But I think he's got

964
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: a shot at either one. Maybe he competes for the

965
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: job at center. We don't know what'll happen in the draft,

966
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: but he has that versatility. He started a lot of

967
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: games in this league before a lot of experience. We

968
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: did not see him last year with the Cardinals when

969
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: we played the Cardinals, but he's done a lot of

970
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: good things.

971
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: On the interior.

972
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: I love guys that can play both center and guard

973
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: because you know how it is mark guys get banged up,

974
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: they miss a game here, a couple games there. To

975
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: have a guy that's reliable, it could play both, like

976
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Evan Brown is extremely valuable for the squad.

977
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: It was really important to get these re signings. Trent

978
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 3: Brown at right tackle or whatever he's gonna end up doing.

979
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: And Ed Ingram, especially at right guard, who had a

980
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: good season. He could have walked out the door and

981
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: hit the market, but he didn't. They made sure they

982
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: got him.

983
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: In all honesty, I thought Ed was gone.

984
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: I thought Ed played his way out of an opportunity

985
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: here in Houston because he was gonna get, you know,

986
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money elsewhere. He's getting a lot of money,

987
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: but he's gonna do it in Houston. I love that

988
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: he wanted to be back in the South. He's from Texas,

989
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: he's from De Soto. He was so happy when he

990
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: walked in here to talk to us, and he just

991
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: gives them another guy kind of the same kind of

992
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: culture guy, a guy that loves the run game, does

993
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: not back off moves guys. We talked about the cultsal

994
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: a while ago because Braden Smith there's that viral moment

995
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: of him taking one of their linebackers and sending him

996
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: to another dimension. And that's the kind of effort, that's

997
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: the kind of strength and power. He has got to

998
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: clean a little bit up with the past game, as

999
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: all these offensive linemen do for the Texans. But bringing

1000
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Ed back that was a big surprise to me. When

1001
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: I woke up and saw that news that day, I

1002
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: was thrilled that he was coming back.

1003
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: All right, So those five guys either signed or re signed,

1004
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Titus traded, Jew Scrugs traded, but all in all a

1005
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: better unit. Now you still have the draft coming up.

1006
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: A quick note on that you like this draft for

1007
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: interior offensive lineman especially, I do.

1008
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 4: I like the guards. I love the centers.

1009
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Tackles, eh Okay, there are a lot more tackles that

1010
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: could move down into guard depending on your situation in

1011
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: this draft than there are really good tackles. So from

1012
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: that standpoint, I like the interior guys that are in

1013
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: this draft and what I can do.

1014
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: So these guys will be blocking for David Montgomery acquired

1015
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: in a trade with the Detroit Lions. Now Montgomery put

1016
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: up good numbers four and a half per carry. Not

1017
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: a thousand yard guy because it's a Marvel character in

1018
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs carrying the ball most of the time for Detroit.

1019
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: But Montgomery is still very productive. He's gonna help and

1020
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: productive down in the low red zone. He gets the

1021
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: ball in the end zone. He knows how to get

1022
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: in the end zone.

1023
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: And the more that I've been around this game, the

1024
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: more I've seen running backs that just know how.

1025
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: To get an the end zone.

1026
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you have that knack, and he's

1027
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: got that knack of getting in the end zone. He's

1028
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: got incredible contact balance, he's still got good speed. And

1029
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: seeing him with the Lions in the joint practice last year,

1030
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: seeing him up close that was that was impressive. And

1031
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: obviously we'd seen him the year before on the Sunday

1032
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: night game here. I just felt like he's got what

1033
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: they're looking for in this run game. And when you

1034
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: talk about the lineman we've added, now we've added a

1035
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't go down easily. You add him with

1036
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: Woody Marx and now that becomes a one to two combination.

1037
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: And again there could be another back coming in the

1038
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: dry where you could keep everybody fresh for all seventeen

1039
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: games and becomes a nice running trio instead of just

1040
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: a duo.

1041
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: Give me a quick note on Foster Moreau. Blocking tight

1042
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: end can also catch the ball. But he's gonna pave

1043
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: the way for some people in the backfield. Good athlete

1044
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: culture guy one number eighteen LSU. For people that have been

1045
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: in LSU, they know that's a big deal.

1046
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Uh fought cancer, beat it came back, had a really

1047
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: good year in twenty twenty four, banged up a little

1048
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: bit in twenty twenty five. But I feel like as

1049
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: a rum blocking tight end, with the versatility to god

1050
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: and routes on play action, it's just that much more valuable.

1051
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: I love the Foster Row signing is one of my

1052
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: favorites of this entire group of signings.

1053
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: All right, highlights of the defense here on the back end,

1054
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: you re signed MJ.

1055
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: Stewart.

1056
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: That means you could play this weekend and feel really

1057
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: good about yourself. But you feel even better because Reid Blankenship,

1058
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: the former Eagle, is now a Houston Texan.

1059
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: What does he bring Johnny?

1060
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a small hole there and the Texans

1061
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: decided to just nap palm it and say well, we're

1062
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna bring back MJ and bring in Red Blankenship. And again,

1063
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: as we said, there's a draft coming up, they can

1064
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: bring in another young player, but you've already got Jalen

1065
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: Reed there too, And if Jalen stays healthy, now you've

1066
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: got a really nice combination of guys, because as we've seen,

1067
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: that spot has required the last two or three years,

1068
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: it's required three in some cases four different bodies to

1069
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: play that spot opposite Kaylin. So now you've got three

1070
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: or four capable bodies to be able to do that.

1071
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited about what both both those guys bring. MJ's

1072
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: been around, a great leader. Reid blanket Ship I thought

1073
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: was one of the more underrated safeties in the league.

1074
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: Maybe not as great at twenty twenty five is in

1075
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: twenty four when they won a championship, but he's a

1076
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: hell of a player, coach's son, great leader. I think

1077
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: he's going to be really the right piece to fit

1078
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: into a really talented secondary. All Right, we got to

1079
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: cut it right there as we end the show for

1080
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: this Friday. If you want to see that in its

1081
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: entire to go to our YouTube channel. Houston Texas that

1082
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: you can hear it all. We talk about Logan Hall

1083
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and everything that was done in the special team to

1084
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: bring it back. Kayimi trading for Kay Krueger, so code

1085
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: check that out on you.

1086
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: You all right, it's gonna do it. Appreciate you guys

1087
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: for being here with me. We'll be back next week.

1088
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: Man.

1089
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: We're getting closer to the draft, We're getting closer to

1090
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: conditioning and players returning. It is great times here in Houston.

1091
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: And remember free agency never ends. We'll see next time

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Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.