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Speaker 1: We are still basking in draft season.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know the events behind us, but god, it's so
Speaker 1: much fun to break it down and so much to
Speaker 1: talk about. And who better to talk to than thor
Speaker 1: nice Strom.
Speaker 3: Great to have you back, buddy, Awesome to be here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, what a crazy weekend we're coming off of
Speaker 3: with the NFL Draft, and it's it's super exciting to
Speaker 3: get into the evaluations for these guys for the coming
Speaker 3: fantasy season.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna do this in two parts. This
Speaker 1: week it's guys who hit the right landing spots after
Speaker 1: round one because last weok, he did round one because
Speaker 1: we record on Fridays and we knew all that. We
Speaker 1: knew everything from Thursday. This week it's round two and beyond.
Speaker 1: We're not doing every single player. I've limited this to
Speaker 1: something in the ballpark of like I don't know, we're
Speaker 1: going to do like eleven guys round two and beyond
Speaker 1: thor that where we like the landing spot.
Speaker 3: Yes, So now I.
Speaker 1: Want to be clear, we're not suggesting these players are
Speaker 1: automatically going to have fantasy success. What we are saying
Speaker 1: is that these are guys who have fallen into a
Speaker 1: spot that gives them a primrose path to fantasy success
Speaker 1: and possibly in the near future as well.
Speaker 3: And mostly I've mostly we're.
Speaker 1: Looking at players in rounds two through four because these
Speaker 1: are higher value players that I think are probably better
Speaker 1: that the team has got more equity built into. And again,
Speaker 1: not a comprehendhensive list, but there's a lot of great
Speaker 1: names here in great.
Speaker 3: Spots predominantly, yes, and we're going to talk about some
Speaker 3: really interesting ones. We also have a couple of deep
Speaker 3: sleepers for you guys. Excited for that too. And then
Speaker 3: next week let's do worst landing spots.
Speaker 1: So guys that were even if we really like the player,
Speaker 1: we don't like where he ended up and we're worried
Speaker 1: about the timeline for six sess on those guys. So
Speaker 1: that'll be next week. Okay, So best landing spots. I
Speaker 1: want to start with this guy, Trey Benson. He was
Speaker 1: my favorite fantasy back coming into this draft. He drops
Speaker 1: into Arizona in round three, currently going off the board
Speaker 1: to pick twelve in non superflex rookie drafts. He gets
Speaker 1: into an improving offense. And I feel like I've said
Speaker 1: this stat like five times in the last month. Arizona
Speaker 1: averaged twenty five points per game in their final five
Speaker 1: or maybe it was six games of last year, so
Speaker 1: they were getting better. They add a stable quarterback. They
Speaker 1: add Marvin Harrison and James Connor, who played well last year,
Speaker 1: but he's aged twenty nine. I mean, the cliff's coming
Speaker 1: for James Connor. And when it does, there's Trey Benson.
Speaker 3: Who is about to put his boot onto the bumper
Speaker 3: of James Connor's car off a back cliff. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Trey Benson's coming for you at James. A very interesting
Speaker 3: pick and a great landing spot for Trey Bentson. I
Speaker 3: think he starts chomping into Connor's usage immediately bypasses him
Speaker 3: in very short order. In twenty twenty two, Trey Benson
Speaker 3: sets the single season PFF record for force miss tackle rate.
Speaker 3: In that season, he became the first collegiate running back
Speaker 3: in the PFF charting era with a force miss tackle
Speaker 3: rate over fifty percent. Oh, I love it. That was crazy.
Speaker 3: And then you combine the last two seasons, Benson was
Speaker 3: number one out of two hundred twenty six qualifiers in
Speaker 3: miss tackles force per attempt. Oh. So you have that
Speaker 3: so sexy an you talk to me like this so hot.
Speaker 3: You have that aspect of his game where he's breaking
Speaker 3: the tackles in the first level to get out to
Speaker 3: that second level. And once he does, that's where the
Speaker 3: size speed combination comes in. He was the premier combination
Speaker 3: of that in this class for three nine wheels at
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixteen pounds. Guys an absolute stud of
Speaker 3: an athlete. That's why you saw him a cru so
Speaker 3: many explosive runs at Florida State. The other thing I
Speaker 3: would say about him, Mike Norvelu, go back to Memphis.
Speaker 3: Remember when the way that he used Antonio Gibson, the
Speaker 3: way he used Tony Pollard, When he had guys that
Speaker 3: could multi dimensional skill, guy that could handle this sort
Speaker 3: of thing, he would he would motion them out to
Speaker 3: the slot, do interesting receiving things with them, get the
Speaker 3: blockers out in front of him. He was doing that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. With Trey Benson because he's skilled enough
Speaker 3: as a receiver. I also liked on Trey Benson's tape
Speaker 3: the way he would sell play the play action, then
Speaker 3: work his way through the line of scrimmage, work his
Speaker 3: way through the garbage, get around that, and make himself
Speaker 3: immediately available to the quarterback. Got a lot of targets
Speaker 3: doing that. His hands are good and you get the
Speaker 3: tackle break in Berserker. After that, all you got to
Speaker 3: do is get is hit him on the hands eighty
Speaker 3: six percentile among running backs and miss tackles force per reception.
Speaker 3: So that's a side of the other thing we were
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 1: And Florida State never does like workhorse back that they've
Speaker 1: just beaten into the ground with, you know, two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty three hundred touches.
Speaker 3: You know, they always use rotations of guys.
Speaker 1: I mean they And so Benson comes into the NFL
Speaker 1: really with pretty low mileage but enough usage. You feel
Speaker 1: really good projecting success for the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, And it's a it's a nippick you
Speaker 3: can have about NorVa when you're thinking about these guys
Speaker 3: for the NFL, because you're, like, man, I wish Benson
Speaker 3: like last year, the usage he would get pulled off
Speaker 3: the field sometimes because this is what Mike Norvell has
Speaker 3: done going back to Memphis, and it's like, man, you've
Speaker 3: got an awesome running back on your roster, just funnel
Speaker 3: at all to him. But that's just the way that
Speaker 3: does system.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the next running back with
Speaker 1: that fell into a promising spot. Jonathan Brooks ends up
Speaker 1: in Carolina in round two. He's currently going up the
Speaker 1: board to pick eleven in non superflex rookie drafts. You know,
Speaker 1: I was a little lukewarm on his overall game. I
Speaker 1: don't see special NFL level traits like I do in
Speaker 1: Trey Benson, but I love the opportunity in Carolina, and
Speaker 1: Carolina's offensive line non awful in run black blocking. They
Speaker 1: ranked sixteenth by Pro Football Focus. And he's just been
Speaker 1: playing better than Chewba Hubbard and where Miles Sanders is
Speaker 1: right now, and those I mean, those guys could be
Speaker 1: cut candidates for me as far as I'm as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. What are your thoughts on this landing
Speaker 1: spot for Jonathan Brooks in Carolina?
Speaker 3: This is probably the best landing spot for any running
Speaker 3: back that was taken, which is the case because I
Speaker 3: don't know why Dallas didn't take a ruddy back draft
Speaker 3: was weird. But because of that, this is objectively, I
Speaker 3: think the best landing spot. He walks in immediately and
Speaker 3: is going to be the belcow of the running game there.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks a guy earlier in his career stuck behind
Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson and Roshawn Johnson. This this past season, he
Speaker 3: made up for it. The first ten games of the season,
Speaker 3: he was averaging over one hundred and forty scrimmage yards
Speaker 3: per game. Unfortunately, he tears his ACL against TCU on
Speaker 3: November eleventh. That was the then that of course wiped
Speaker 3: out his entire pre draft process. Wasn't able to test
Speaker 3: everything like that. I love his feet. I like him
Speaker 3: as a runner. He makes people miss that. That's the
Speaker 3: part of his game where I mean, I think Caroline
Speaker 3: is going to give him a metric ton of carries
Speaker 3: this coming season, the.
Speaker 1: One assuming he comes back in short order from the injury.
Speaker 3: And they've been the public comments about that have been
Speaker 3: pretty bullish that he's going to be ready for the
Speaker 3: start of the season. Well to see, I mean, like
Speaker 3: we're in the middle of his recovery process right now, right, yes,
Speaker 3: you know well to see, but at least the timeline
Speaker 3: that has been given to us publicly, it sounds promising.
Speaker 3: The one part of his game that I'll be interested
Speaker 3: to see how much at the NFL level is the
Speaker 3: receiving element of it. Obviously earlier in his career because
Speaker 3: of the way that you know, with Beijon there and Rochean,
Speaker 3: he just wasn't used as much as a receiver, and
Speaker 3: then those first ten games a lot of the usage
Speaker 3: was coming as a runner. So I'm not sure about
Speaker 3: that aspect of his game, but he's gonna get He
Speaker 3: is going to be the belcow of that Carolina offense
Speaker 3: as far as the runner immediately, and.
Speaker 1: That's Jonathan Brooks. Let's go to another running back that
Speaker 1: fell into a nice spot. Kamani Vidal has been.
Speaker 3: You know, he's been.
Speaker 1: There's been a ton of talk and buzz in the
Speaker 1: fantasy community since the draft, even though he didn't get
Speaker 1: taken until round six, and he's currently going off the
Speaker 1: board to pick thirty nine and non super flex rookie drafts.
Speaker 1: He needs to get passed JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards,
Speaker 1: but they just haven't looked the same since their respect
Speaker 1: of ACL injuries. I mean, you can't always bounce back
Speaker 1: from these like you like you want to. But part
Speaker 1: of the love here is Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: give us the most run heavy combo in the NFL, right,
Speaker 1: so opportunity is.
Speaker 3: Going to be there one thousand percent. Kamani Vidal, I
Speaker 3: absolutely love his game. The last couple of years, he
Speaker 3: was the Belkow period, end of story for that Troy
Speaker 3: team that was dominant in the G five. He got,
Speaker 3: he got all the looks there. He would stay on
Speaker 3: the field on passing downs, but to pass block in
Speaker 3: that system predominantly last four years he averaged around twenty
Speaker 3: catches per season, not because he can't catch, but because
Speaker 3: that was the way their offense was set up. It
Speaker 3: turns out that Kamani Vidal is probably the best pass
Speaker 3: blocking back in this class, which is going to keep
Speaker 3: him on the field for passing downs. If not. I
Speaker 3: think he's a better receiver than he was given credit
Speaker 3: for in the process. But as a runner, a very
Speaker 3: very interesting player. And the landing spot here, of course
Speaker 3: is great Jim Harbaugh. This is his type of running back.
Speaker 3: Blake Korham ends up going in the third round to
Speaker 3: Sean mcvabe, so at least he stays in the same
Speaker 3: area code as Jim Harbaugh. But I thought it was
Speaker 3: so interesting that three runs they can have sleepovers. They
Speaker 3: can sleepovers exactly. But three rounds later he ends up
Speaker 3: taking Vidal, who is essentially the pointing spider Man give
Speaker 3: of Blake Koram as a physical package. They're in the
Speaker 3: same height, they're the same weight. It's just Kamani Vidal
Speaker 3: is a better athlete. Kamani Vidal ended up testing as
Speaker 3: an eighty eight percentile athlete five A two thirteen. You
Speaker 3: know you have that bowling ball build. Kamani Vidal ran
Speaker 3: for four thousand yards in the FBS. He did it
Speaker 3: a different way than Blake Korum, even though they're in
Speaker 3: the same dimensions. Blake Koram is more your breaking bowling
Speaker 3: ball on the lane, where he does it with agility, tempo, patience,
Speaker 3: different stuff like that Kamani Vidal, whereas with him, it's
Speaker 3: throwing the bowling ball at the pins where it's he
Speaker 3: comes forward, the acceleration. He's not waiting for anyone breaking
Speaker 3: through that line, and it's a different type of a
Speaker 3: playing style for back that type where a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Usually you see more of the Korum type, Devin Motor, Singletary,
Speaker 3: those kind of guys where it's more shaken. Vadal takes
Speaker 3: the fight to you. And and it's not just that
Speaker 3: he accrued all these stats against G five teams. They
Speaker 3: played Kansas State. Kansas State was loading eight man boxing
Speaker 3: against Kamani Vidal. He was blowing through into the second
Speaker 3: third level. The guy that I compared Kamani Vidal to
Speaker 3: was Jalen Warren, which I got a chance to ask
Speaker 3: Kamani down in Mobile at the Senior but what he
Speaker 3: thought of my company, He was starting to laugh, and
Speaker 3: he compared himself to Maurice Jones Drew. But he did
Speaker 3: say that he liked my comp of him. The thing
Speaker 3: with those two guys' games. When Jalen Warren came out
Speaker 3: of Oklahoma State, obviously he was under sauld the ends
Speaker 3: up going undrafted. Warren finished his last season there number
Speaker 3: two in the FBS and forced miss tackles. This past season,
Speaker 3: Kabati Vedal finished number two in the FBS and forced
Speaker 3: miss tackles. I think that that's what he has bringing,
Speaker 3: that kind of game is what he is bringing to
Speaker 3: the Charterers. I believe that in his rookie season he
Speaker 3: upset JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards to start as a
Speaker 3: rookie for Jim Harbaugh in that run first offense that
Speaker 3: they have with Greg Roman.
Speaker 1: Let's transition to tight ends, and you and I broke
Speaker 1: down the tight end position only like what four shows ago.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to spend a ton of time
Speaker 1: on who these guys are, but I do like the
Speaker 1: opportunities for three different guys that fell into spots where
Speaker 1: they can be short, they can become starters, perhaps as
Speaker 1: early as week one, number one Jatavian Sanders, he falls
Speaker 1: to Carolina, He's only got to beat out Tommy Trumbull
Speaker 1: and Ian Thomas here and a completely rebuilt Carolina offense.
Speaker 1: You know, with new coaching staff, obviously we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get year number two for Bryce Young. It's
Speaker 1: going to be better. It's going to be better for
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. One hundred percent chance it's going to be better.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that landing spot for Sanders.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if they're if Carolina is willing
Speaker 3: to take a third receiver off the field to get
Speaker 3: him onto it, or if or if they'll go without
Speaker 3: an inline guy, because the thing with Jatavian Sanders is
Speaker 3: he cannot play inline. He will get ragg dall and
Speaker 3: it's one of the reasons why he fell down the
Speaker 3: board a little bit. Yeah, as far as his receiving utility,
Speaker 3: to me, it's isolated to two things. And Steve Starkesian
Speaker 3: very cleverly schemed to uh to work around these things
Speaker 3: and to play these things up. With his testing. You
Speaker 3: saw the speed and you saw the burst. The rest
Speaker 3: of his athletic testing disappointed. That's why he finished fifty
Speaker 3: seven percentile in that. But he can stretch the seam absolutely,
Speaker 3: he can absolutely do that, and he can make plays downfield.
Speaker 3: The other thing that they would do for him, Sarkeshan
Speaker 3: would get the defense focusing on Xavier Worthy Adonai Mitchell
Speaker 3: on the other side of the field and would get
Speaker 3: Sanders isolated against one of the tertiary you know, linebackers
Speaker 3: strong safety against Sanders in space one on one hit
Speaker 3: him on the hands in the intermediate area where he
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to turn up field and hit the jets.
Speaker 3: So you would see the yak yardage there to Chaevian
Speaker 3: Sanders does not break tackles, but he gets yak yardage
Speaker 3: because of that and the way he was schemed with that.
Speaker 3: If Carolina uses him cleverly like that, I think that's
Speaker 3: where you get the receiving utility out of him at
Speaker 3: the NFL level. But again I'm curious how they do
Speaker 3: their offensive usage because you have the three starting receivers
Speaker 3: now that they had to get to that room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and on the interior they got Deontay
Speaker 1: Johnson now add feeling, both guys that run a fair
Speaker 1: amount from the slot, and so you worry about Sanders
Speaker 1: necessarily just having room to stand up if he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be an inline guy and he's going to be
Speaker 1: standing in the slot. What do we do if we've
Speaker 1: got two receivers who can run in the slot.
Speaker 3: For sure, but a far far, far better receiver and
Speaker 3: offers more utility than those two other guys that you
Speaker 3: mentioned on the Carolina depth chart.
Speaker 1: Sanders currently going pick thirty six and non superflex rookie drafts.
Speaker 3: Let's go to another tight end.
Speaker 1: Eric Hall drops into Cincinnati and one of the better
Speaker 1: spots available for a tight end. He only needs to
Speaker 1: beat out Tanner, Hudson, Drew sample Mike Koseki, who at
Speaker 1: this point I think we can just call it. We
Speaker 1: can stop referring to Mike Aseki as a former first rounder.
Speaker 1: Let's just call him a journeyman because I think at
Speaker 1: this point that's where he is and in his career path.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Eric Hall currently going off
Speaker 1: the board way down at pick fifty four in non
Speaker 1: superflex rookie drafts.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a mistake by people, isn't it. Yes, Eric All?
Speaker 3: I love Eric All. I was so ballish on him.
Speaker 3: He was my tight end three, and as I put
Speaker 3: in my scouting report with the tight ends, he would
Speaker 3: have been my tight end two if I had confirmation
Speaker 3: on the medicals that that he had been cleared with
Speaker 3: at it. It feels like the Bengals were okay with
Speaker 3: it based on where they took him, which is right
Speaker 3: around where he was on my board. Eric All is
Speaker 3: very clearly the number two guy at this position group
Speaker 3: in terms of receiving utility offered to the next level
Speaker 3: he's been. He was starting at Michigan for the two
Speaker 3: years prior to when he went to Iowa. Last year
Speaker 3: at Iowa, when he was on the field the first
Speaker 3: six games or so, he was one of the better
Speaker 3: receiving tight ends in college football by the numbers and
Speaker 3: what was once again a rancid passing offense in Iowa City.
Speaker 3: But they had brought him in after he transferred from
Speaker 3: Michigan in order to step into Sam Laporta's inline spot
Speaker 3: in their offense. Yeah, when he was at Michigan, he
Speaker 3: was playing more of the h back, big slot role,
Speaker 3: move around chess piece, kind of a role that this
Speaker 3: past year Colson Lovelin filled in Jim Harbaugh's offense. But
Speaker 3: I love the athleticism with Eric All in conjunction with
Speaker 3: the receiving skill, and he has ball skills as well.
Speaker 3: But you can see examples of this even in his
Speaker 3: brief time in Iowa City. There was a play last
Speaker 3: year they hit him on the hands intermediate against Penn
Speaker 3: State and he ends up turning the corner and Kaylan
Speaker 3: King was the cornerback who is trailing him. Eric All
Speaker 3: outruns Kaylan King to the end zone for love fifty
Speaker 3: yards out. Wow, kaylan King and his pro day ran
Speaker 3: I believe a four or five to one, So I
Speaker 3: think eric All would have ran probably in the high
Speaker 3: four fours had he been able to test Caylen King
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, four or five to two at Penn States Prode.
Speaker 3: But at least on that play in pads, eric All
Speaker 3: appeared to be faster than him. Washington's Devin culpad the
Speaker 3: fastest forty time with tight ends that were tested this
Speaker 3: year at four four seven, eric All would have been
Speaker 3: challenging him. And then you know Theo Johnson was the
Speaker 3: one everyone was going nuts about. Was a four or
Speaker 3: five seven, eric All would have licked him. And again,
Speaker 3: the route running, the ball skills. We have seen this
Speaker 3: going back a couple of years. The only reason he
Speaker 3: felt the way he did and in the pre draft
Speaker 3: process there wasn't more talk about him. It's because of
Speaker 3: that back injury that ended his career at Michigan. There
Speaker 3: was a disagreement about whether he should shut it down
Speaker 3: that season and rock for that thirt That's what ends
Speaker 3: up leading to his transfer goes to Iowa.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go anywhere you go to tight end,
Speaker 1: you leave Michigan. If you're gonna leave Michigan for any
Speaker 1: program as a tight end, Iowa is the one.
Speaker 3: And if they're attracted to you, Yeah, that's the one
Speaker 3: position you could trust the Iowa City coaching staff to identify.
Speaker 3: And like I said, he was doing so well at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season and then the torn ACL
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable enough with that back into the a CL
Speaker 3: with modern technology that doesn't concern me at all. The
Speaker 3: back injury though, it seems as though he all was
Speaker 3: the one who elected for it and there was no
Speaker 3: one else who would shut him down that season. So
Speaker 3: because of that and then because he comes back the
Speaker 3: next season, I'm making a situational assumption, of course, looking
Speaker 3: into the black box of his medicals which they don't
Speaker 3: release to us, that it's it doesn't crazy elevate his
Speaker 3: risk at the NFL level, and obviously that's what the
Speaker 3: Bengals have told us. Their read is on it by
Speaker 3: taking them where they did, but big time sleeper Eric Hall,
Speaker 3: and at a position, by the way, we've been crying
Speaker 3: out in the last couple of years for the Bengals
Speaker 3: to take the pass catching monster at tight end for
Speaker 3: Jie Burrow. They did it here at his sticker price
Speaker 3: discon with a guy where if his body doesn't betray
Speaker 3: him Eric All is going to be a star in
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 1: All right, last tight end I want to hit you with,
Speaker 1: and then we'll switch over to wide receivers. Ben Sennett,
Speaker 1: I gotta love a guy named Senate finds his way
Speaker 1: to Washington. You can't you can't make it any better
Speaker 1: than that. Washington did sign zach Ertz, but Logan Thomas
Speaker 1: is gone and there's just no other threats on the roster,
Speaker 1: and zach Ertz is at the bitter end of his career.
Speaker 3: I believe, so maybe Ertz holds him off for.
Speaker 1: A year, but it feels like Senate's a guy that
Speaker 1: by this time next year is going to be ready
Speaker 1: to explode.
Speaker 3: And then Jayden.
Speaker 1: Daniels will be a year another year in as a starter,
Speaker 1: and you can really project for a pretty cool twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five for him, for sure, six foot four, two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, ninety seven percentile athlete, eerily similar
Speaker 1: in all those things, including the specific test to Sam
Speaker 1: Laporta from last class. To me, he's like ninety five
Speaker 1: percent ninety three percent version of Sam Laporta. Games are
Speaker 1: very similar. You can play him inline stud blocker who
Speaker 1: absolutely gets after I think he's number two in this
Speaker 1: class in terms of that from the metrics last year
Speaker 1: and then the receiving utility, and in particular I thought,
Speaker 1: well projected, you know, you have the athleticism, you have
Speaker 1: the idea of how to run the route. He has
Speaker 1: really good hands.
Speaker 3: But what I like for the projection to the NFL
Speaker 3: is we talk about a lot with the quarterbacks JJ
Speaker 3: McCarthy and Drake May about how they were so good
Speaker 3: ten to nineteen yards down the field between the hashes,
Speaker 3: in the intermediate range. How well that projects the NFL.
Speaker 3: We so rarely talk about that though with receivers and
Speaker 3: tight ends. Ben Sennett destroys people in that range down
Speaker 3: the field ten to nineteen in the intermediate between the hashes.
Speaker 3: That's where a metric ton of his usage came in college.
Speaker 3: Then once he catches the ball there he becomes the
Speaker 3: tackle breaking berserker. That's where it was akin to Sam
Speaker 3: Laporta for me in terms of that, I think the
Speaker 3: name where it's going to be evolkedmore in Washington now
Speaker 3: that he's going there is Chris Cooley. I think who
Speaker 3: he's going to remind him of. But yeah, he's going
Speaker 3: to force his way onto the field one way or
Speaker 3: another the first season, maybe not the full snaps with him,
Speaker 3: but I think, you know, with jayde Daniels's evaluation, so
Speaker 3: good throwing down the field, such a good scrambler. We
Speaker 3: had talked about how in the LSU offense they didn't
Speaker 3: throw into that sector. I was just talking about quite
Speaker 3: as much. Ben Fennett, I think is being brought in
Speaker 3: to make Jaden a little more comfortable throwing over the
Speaker 3: middle the hashes at the NFL level.
Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break when we come back. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the wide receivers, beginning with Keon Coleman, who
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. Keon Coleman drops in. Was it
Speaker 1: pick two of the second round? First the second round,
Speaker 1: first pick of the second round, Keon Coleman, Buffalo. This
Speaker 1: is obviously turned into a position of great need for
Speaker 1: them with Stefan Diggs gone, gave Davis gone, They're really
Speaker 1: rebooting the spot, not a lot of competition. Coleman walks
Speaker 1: in is the probable starter week one here, and he's
Speaker 1: got a great quarterback to throw them the ball. So
Speaker 1: let's you know, Coleman's not a speed guy, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Josh Allen's got the big,
Speaker 1: big arm, so I don't know if that's going to
Speaker 1: be like bombs away. But you know, Gabe Davis was
Speaker 1: a speed guy and it never came together in a
Speaker 1: way that materially helped fantasy players. So what do you
Speaker 1: think about this landing spot for Keon Coleman and Buffalo.
Speaker 3: I love this landing spot for ke On Coleman in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: You not only walk into that starting spot on the
Speaker 3: boundary in a good offense, but it's his stylistically his game.
Speaker 3: It fits so well with Josh Allen. The thing I
Speaker 3: was concerned about with Coleman is that he would go
Speaker 3: into like a timing rhythm type offense where they would
Speaker 3: ask him to try to do stuff in the intermediate area.
Speaker 3: That's the part of the game where he struggles with
Speaker 3: Last year PFF he was zero percent out in separation rate. Wow.
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman doesn't care if you are in his kitchen
Speaker 3: when the ball is coming, because generally it is down
Speaker 3: the field. And this is where you know, It's funny
Speaker 3: when people on Twitter at he ran them four to
Speaker 3: six one at the combine were like, he's not athletic.
Speaker 3: I was just chuckling. It's it's like a kid who
Speaker 3: was on Tom Izzo's basketball team at Michigan State two
Speaker 3: years ago isn't athletic? Right? Are you kidding me? You know?
Speaker 3: And I saw him so often hurtle defenders after the catch,
Speaker 3: he jumps out of the gym, and that is the
Speaker 3: utility with him down the field and with Josh Allen
Speaker 3: in particular, That's what's gonna play up a comment about
Speaker 3: him last year. At the beginning of the season, he
Speaker 3: was doing tremendous He lit up LSU one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty two yards three touchdowns, lit up Clems in eighty
Speaker 3: six yards two touchdowns. That through September and October, he
Speaker 3: was doing great. That's when Keyon Coleman suffered an injury
Speaker 3: that the cause him to miss a game. Then he
Speaker 3: comes back, he wasn't one hundred percent. Then Jordan Travis
Speaker 3: gets injured, and that brought in quarterbacks that should not
Speaker 3: have been on a Power five field or maybe even
Speaker 3: a G five field, and so what ended up happening.
Speaker 3: People look at his stats and they think he was disappointing.
Speaker 3: Last season. Key On Coleman got eighty seven targets. Only
Speaker 3: fifty five of those were chartered as catchable because of
Speaker 3: all the bad targets that he got in November when
Speaker 3: these guys were on the field that shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3: Of those fifty five targets, Keon Coleman caught fifty of them.
Speaker 3: Eleven went for touchdowns, twenty eight others went for first downs. Dang,
Speaker 3: and he's now about to go from these flotsome guys
Speaker 3: after Jordan Travis got injured to playing with Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: who is again the perfect stylistic fit for his game.
Speaker 3: You chuck it up to Keon cole It's a rebound thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what that kid is done, Knox since he was
Speaker 3: a kid. That's all he does iley higher than you.
Speaker 3: It's full extension because it's just the box out thing
Speaker 3: with basketball, it's all it is downfield. If it's only
Speaker 3: one guy on Keon Coleman, he is getting higher. He's
Speaker 3: getting up to that ball and he doesn't drop it either,
Speaker 3: as he has really good hands. This is a really
Speaker 3: good fit. Let's go to a player who is really fast.
Speaker 1: Troy Franklin ends up in Denver currently going off the
Speaker 1: board his pick twenty one and non super flex rookie drafts,
Speaker 1: I should mention Kean Coleman going his pick eleven right
Speaker 1: now in non super flex rookie drafts for Troy Franklin
Speaker 1: gets teamed up with this college quarterback Bonix. I don't
Speaker 1: think that means very much. I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: gain a little a little out of that. You get
Speaker 1: in a little chemistry gain, but not a ton. Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy's departure opens up reps for somebody.
Speaker 3: But is it.
Speaker 1: Franklin right away? What about Marvin Mims? I mean they
Speaker 1: put second world equity into Marvin Mims one year ago?
Speaker 1: What about free agent Josh Reynolds has proven he can
Speaker 1: be a contributor. Franklin's viewed as a pretty raw project
Speaker 1: who might need some time in coaching. But you know,
Speaker 1: we love his speed, we love the deep separation, we
Speaker 1: love the big playmaking ability that he demonstrated regularly with
Speaker 1: bon Nicks.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts of this landing spot. Yeah, Troy Franklin,
Speaker 3: I was surprised that he fell down the board, and
Speaker 3: he finds a really interesting landing spot here, both with
Speaker 3: being reunited with Bonex's collegiate quarterback and then also Troy
Speaker 3: Franklin's closest comparison in terms of this size and the
Speaker 3: athleticism in the entire NFL. When you look, you pump
Speaker 3: them into a mock draftable, you pump them into the
Speaker 3: rat system. It's right. So it's it's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: that those two guys are going to be duking it
Speaker 3: out for reps. And then obviously Reynolds is involved with
Speaker 3: that as you are going to see Troy Franklin on
Speaker 3: on the field in year one, and he absolutely out
Speaker 3: of those three guys fighting for two spots, could win
Speaker 3: one of the starting spots. Immediately he got the NFL
Speaker 3: was punitive with Troy Franklin because he's skinny. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what it is. Six six, but he's a ninetieth
Speaker 3: percentile athlete, extremely productive at Oregon three point three two
Speaker 3: yards per route run last year, and he wins at
Speaker 3: all three levels. Now, of course, with bo Nicks, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of screen passes being thrown to the outside.
Speaker 3: At least with that, Troy Franklin got to show that
Speaker 3: he can manufacture yards after the catch, including breaking tackles,
Speaker 3: which was impressive for a player who is on the
Speaker 3: skinnier side. But in the instances where he was allowed
Speaker 3: to go downfield, I saw a better route runner than
Speaker 3: he was given credit for this process. To me, he
Speaker 3: is a better prospect than the round four early round
Speaker 3: four price tag that was put on him. And I
Speaker 3: like Troy Franklin as a fantasy asset sleeper kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Currently going off the board pick twenty one in non
Speaker 1: super flex rookie drafts. Next Lad McConkie, who did go
Speaker 1: second pick of the second round, he goes. He currently
Speaker 1: going off the board pick eight in non super flex
Speaker 1: rookie drafts. He lands with the Chargers. Now, the Chargers
Speaker 1: passed on the leak neighbors, which ended up resetting a
Speaker 1: lot of that first round, I believe, and I think
Speaker 1: that's it. I think that call ended up putting the
Speaker 1: Vikings in a spot to get JJ McCarthy ultimately, but
Speaker 1: they pass on neighbors instead they go offensive line. But
Speaker 1: then they reinforce this position at the very top of
Speaker 1: the second round, and you get a player who is
Speaker 1: hyper productive at Georgia and Ladd McConkie, and he walks
Speaker 1: into a wide receiver room where he's the best player.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's better than Josh Palmer, and it looks.
Speaker 3: Like better than Quentin Johnson base on what we saw
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: Super slippery, lots of separation. I didn't see him breaking
Speaker 1: tackles after the catch. I don't think he's that guy.
Speaker 1: But mann does lad McConkie get open? And maybe it's
Speaker 1: because brock Bauers was opening up a lot of space
Speaker 1: for him, But man, when you watch Georgia games, you're like,
Speaker 1: there's nobody.
Speaker 3: Within five yards of lad McConkie. Ever, it seems like
Speaker 3: that's what it is. That kid rolls out of bed
Speaker 3: getting separation. Yeah, yeah, he's opened more than seven to eleven,
Speaker 3: as the kids say. And he is the inverse of
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman, who is the get separation in his downfield.
Speaker 3: Now I'll jump in with Kean or with Lab McConkie.
Speaker 3: It's I'm separating from you and we're going to make
Speaker 3: ourselves available at the quarterback right away. I love this
Speaker 3: fit with the Chargers. Lab mcconky became the wide receiver
Speaker 3: one on that team the second that card was submitted. Now,
Speaker 3: of course, it is the run first offense. That is
Speaker 3: the ethos of those guys there. Now, so you're going
Speaker 3: to run on the early downs. But the thing is,
Speaker 3: and the reason that they were attracted to Lab mcconki,
Speaker 3: it is not just to address their terrible wide receiver room.
Speaker 3: It's also because of the constitution of their entire offensive philosophy,
Speaker 3: which is, we get closer to the sticks on the
Speaker 3: early downs. We need the efficiency guys in order to
Speaker 3: convert on those third downs. Sure that is Lab McConkie.
Speaker 3: He will get open. You know the third and fours,
Speaker 3: they were in the third and fives. They're in the
Speaker 3: third and six, is you lad McConkie won on one
Speaker 3: and man coverage is shaking as dude, and then Herbert
Speaker 3: hitting him on the hands and we're getting the first down.
Speaker 3: One of the craziest stats that I pulled from this
Speaker 3: past draft class. Last season, more than eighty percent of
Speaker 3: the balls that left the quarterback's hands headed in mcconkey's direction.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking chartered as catchable. I'm just talking peer
Speaker 3: balls that were throwing his way eight more than eighty
Speaker 3: percent of them became completions. And this was not on
Speaker 3: the spoon fed targets that a guy like Malachi Corley got.
Speaker 3: McConkie's twelve point two eight out was the exact same
Speaker 3: as Malik neighbors Is. Last season, mcconkee finished with three
Speaker 3: point twenty six yards per route run that was number
Speaker 3: four among FBS prospects in this class. He plays on
Speaker 3: the people were tossing, Oh, he's just a slot, He's
Speaker 3: a slat. No, he wasn't. At Georgia, a team that
Speaker 3: won two of the last three national titles. He played
Speaker 3: eighty percent of his snaps on the boundary in a
Speaker 3: twelve personnel offense. And hello, he is now going to
Speaker 3: a twelve personnel offense under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman.
Speaker 3: He is going to be an outside receiver. The guy
Speaker 3: that I compared him to is Jordan Addison, and I
Speaker 3: think you're going to see a similar sort of a deal.
Speaker 3: The efficiency thing getting open and then he converts it
Speaker 3: and by the way, four to three to nine gas
Speaker 3: for the times where potentially they do want to send
Speaker 3: him down the field a little bit. You can't just
Speaker 3: always be trying to play up on him, cause he
Speaker 3: can get around you if you try to take that
Speaker 3: away and try to start jumping things. All right, Let's
Speaker 3: turn our attention to the Patriots. Two receivers.
Speaker 1: They put second and fourth round equity into the position,
Speaker 1: a massive position in need. Jalen Polk and Javon Baker
Speaker 1: currently going off the board his picks twenty three and
Speaker 1: twenty eight. In non superflex rookie drafts, they have virtually
Speaker 1: no competition. They can walk right in and potentially be
Speaker 1: starters here. Drake May could be really good. I really
Speaker 1: like Drake May. Talk to me about these two. I know,
Speaker 1: having talked to you, you like Baker. You're not as
Speaker 1: high in Polk, even though they took him in reverse order.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was super confused by the Pulk pick, and
Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna come to greatly regret passing
Speaker 3: on lad mcconky in order to take Jaalen Pulk. The
Speaker 3: last couple of years when Jalen McMillan and Jalen Polk
Speaker 3: were on the field together at Washington Together there was
Speaker 3: twenty games where that occurred where they both completed the
Speaker 3: full game. Jalen McMillan in those games one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty four catches for sixteen hundred and fifty seven yards
Speaker 3: and fourteen touchdowns. Jalen Pol in those games sixty eight
Speaker 3: catches for twelve hundred and ten yards and nine touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Jalen Polk was always the clear and distant wide receiver
Speaker 3: three when Jalen McMillan was on the field. The only
Speaker 3: reason he ends up going at the top of the
Speaker 3: second round was because Jalen McMillan suffered a knee injury
Speaker 3: against Michigan State in September, which allowed Jalen Polk to
Speaker 3: finally jump up into the wide receiver two role and
Speaker 3: he went off in for the five next games where
Speaker 3: they were playing these crappy Pac twelve defenses. But when
Speaker 3: Jalen McMillan came back at the end of the season,
Speaker 3: Jalen Polk came right back to where he came from
Speaker 3: as a distant wide receiver three in fact, two of
Speaker 3: the games down the stretch where they're play and keep
Speaker 3: in mind Washington was going towards playing in the National
Speaker 3: title game in full games, Jalen Polk that he played
Speaker 3: in active zero catches in two of those games down
Speaker 3: the stretch. Wow. The guy that I really like, though,
Speaker 3: is Javon Baker. Javon Baker is the guy that I
Speaker 3: think will quickly ascend to being the top option in
Speaker 3: that Patriots passing offense. The wide receiving room there stings
Speaker 3: and Jawn Baker can actually play. The reason he felt
Speaker 3: on the board, it's not because he can't play, it's
Speaker 3: because some of the evaluators have issues with his personality,
Speaker 3: which he's not a bad kid, but he It reminds
Speaker 3: me a lot of stuff on Diggs, another guy who
Speaker 3: fell down the board, because you know, evaluators thought, is
Speaker 3: your attitude in the way that you see yourself commeserate
Speaker 3: to your ability on the field.
Speaker 1: And something that has haunted Diggs to this day.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, yes, And when things are going well, you
Speaker 3: never hear about that saft with stuff on Diggs. When
Speaker 3: it's not, that's when that sort of stuff starts coming out.
Speaker 3: But Javon Baker ardently believes that he is the best
Speaker 3: wide receiver in this class, you know. And last year
Speaker 3: he was blowing the kiss at Oklahoma. Everyone gave him
Speaker 3: crap about that, but that touchdown answer when of Oklahoma's touchdowns.
Speaker 3: The Oklahoma is a twenty two point favorite in that game,
Speaker 3: UCF was a failed two point conversion at the end
Speaker 3: of the game for taking that game into overtime, potentially
Speaker 3: upsetting Oklahoma. The only reason they had that shot was
Speaker 3: because Javon Baker was going ballistic. Reason he blew the
Speaker 3: kiss there at the end of the first half was
Speaker 3: to tell him like, we're here. You're not getting rid
Speaker 3: of me all this game, And that's why UCF almost
Speaker 3: rose up in that game. Javon Baker can win it
Speaker 3: all through levels of the field. The way they predominantly
Speaker 3: use him in that offense was the deep shots. But
Speaker 3: I saw that kid win short, win intermediate, the yards
Speaker 3: after the catch when he does the quarterbacks, he had
Speaker 3: a UCF. We're not so good at hitting him on
Speaker 3: the hands in space, but he can do that stuff.
Speaker 3: And then the release package with him is crazy, very
Speaker 3: very dynamic, bullish on him, and I think he's better
Speaker 3: than Jalen Polk and like I said, I think he's
Speaker 3: going to be Patriots wide receiver one at some point
Speaker 3: his rookie season.
Speaker 1: All right, last guy, I want to talk about it
Speaker 1: as we wrap up our perfect landing spots Guys that
Speaker 1: dropped into positions. We really like Roman Wilson in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: They put a third round equity into him. He's currently
Speaker 1: going up to board pick twenty two in non superflex
Speaker 1: rookie drafts. You know, Dante Johnson now gone as we
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and whether it's Russell Wilson or justin fields,
Speaker 1: he should have decent quarterbacking. Maybe he's better than Kenny
Speaker 1: Pickett level quarterbacking anyway in Pittsburgh. What do you think
Speaker 1: of Roman Wilson in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3: Huge fan, great landing spot and draft day bargain on
Speaker 3: his price point. What Roman Wilson is not as an
Speaker 3: outside receiver just because of the size five ten, But
Speaker 3: he's bursty, he has the speed and he makes plays downfield.
Speaker 3: He also has tremendous hands. One drop, zero fumbles as
Speaker 3: the wide receiver one on last year's title team after
Speaker 3: two drops and zero fumbles the year before and this
Speaker 3: is with usage that went down the field with him.
Speaker 3: It was not spoon fed stuff. And here's something to
Speaker 3: keep in mind with that. I this should have been
Speaker 3: talked about a lot more during the pre draft process.
Speaker 3: They talk about his frame so much, but they never
Speaker 3: brought this up. Visa Vive the no drops with him ever.
Speaker 3: In an odd genetic quirk, Roman Wilson had what quirk,
Speaker 3: an odd groenetic quirk. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3: He has enormous hands, oh, especially for his size. Roman
Speaker 3: Wilson's hands are get this bigger than Roma dunesays. They
Speaker 3: are one eighth of an inch smaller than Marvin Harrison's
Speaker 3: and they are the same size as Xavier Lagetze, that
Speaker 3: guy's receivers that got huge. Yeah. And Roman Wilson never
Speaker 3: flubs balls, So I feel like that is something that
Speaker 3: should have been discussed more with him. Very very good
Speaker 3: out runner, very very reliable last year on the field,
Speaker 3: number one in the FBS and expected points ated per
Speaker 3: route run. He was also top ten nationally in quarterback
Speaker 3: rating when targeted. All right, love it.
Speaker 1: Do you have any sleepers that we haven't addressed that
Speaker 1: you feel like guys who just dropped into really nice
Speaker 1: landing spots that you also want to you want to
Speaker 1: chip in here.
Speaker 3: I want to go totally off to grie with the
Speaker 3: guy that wasn't even drafted. If we can go at
Speaker 3: the end of the deepest of weeds, Jalen Cocher went
Speaker 3: to the Carolina Panthers. He's coming out of holy Cross.
Speaker 3: I was stunned that that kid did not get drafted.
Speaker 3: I have to assume that that's the FCS say what position.
Speaker 3: I don't know who this kid is. Jalen Coker wide receiver, okay,
Speaker 3: and he's heading into a room where it is wide open.
Speaker 3: And and to me qualitatively, I did not have him
Speaker 3: ranked too far behind where I had Jonathan Mingo on
Speaker 3: my board last year. Wow, Jonathan Male like in the
Speaker 3: high eighties. I had Jalen Coker in the one twenties,
Speaker 3: so pretty close. And the rest of the wide receivers
Speaker 3: there that are backups in Carolina, they're just flats them.
Speaker 3: Jalen Coker's ball skills are incredible. He has the laid hands,
Speaker 3: he doesn't drop anything. He spears things outside of his frame,
Speaker 3: very very good with and while he lacks the downtown wheels,
Speaker 3: he ran somewhere in the mid four fives, which you
Speaker 3: can see that on film. He is super bursty and
Speaker 3: the acceleration, including in and out of the route breaks.
Speaker 3: That is also something, interestingly enough, that showed up in
Speaker 3: his testing. Even with the mid four to five speed,
Speaker 3: he had the same ten year split as mister at
Speaker 3: done Mitchell, who really four three to three? Wow, that's right?
Speaker 3: All right? Yeah, So Jalen Cocher, watch out for him.
Speaker 3: I think he's making that Carolina Panthers teams. And for
Speaker 3: any of our deep Dynasty listeners out there, make sure
Speaker 3: you grab that guy at the end of your draft
Speaker 3: and stashum. All right, I love it.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's kind of stuff that we that we
Speaker 1: love to hear. That would have been a little bit
Speaker 1: of what you would have been saying had we done
Speaker 1: this segment a year ago, you'd a bit you'd have
Speaker 1: thrown in Pukinakua at the end at the end.
Speaker 3: Of our discussion. All right, you'd have brought him to
Speaker 3: art in the last round.
Speaker 1: That's right, And we're so we're uh, we're going with
Speaker 1: Cocher as our dart throw this year. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with players who we like
Speaker 1: but don't love the landing spot. We'll talk about the
Speaker 1: bad landing spot. Guys that worry us next week.
Speaker 3: Talk to you then.
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