WEBVTT - How Mars Works

0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff

0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Josh Clarkner's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry's over there. We

0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.520
<v Speaker 1>all have um I boogers because this is an early morning, unusual,

0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.599
<v Speaker 1>early morning edition of Stuff you Should Know. Welcome to

0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the morning edition. We should just talk like this. We

0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>got on NPR. We got taken to task in its

0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.960
<v Speaker 1>nine email from a morning talk show TV show host.

0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you see it? Uh about the inquisition? Yeah, He's like,

0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>way to release the inquisition on Ash Wednesdays, kind of

0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>slapping the face. Five respond I said, actually, it came

0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.199
<v Speaker 1>out on fat Tuesday and by sheer coincidence. He's like,

0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.760
<v Speaker 1>thanks for the reply, and I responded to him too.

0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I wish I was that clever

0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>who said I had no idea. It's like our our

0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>medical marijuana episode being our four utter complete coincidence. Guaranteed everybody.

0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I think over the course of six hundred plus shows,

0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have some weird coincidences like that. You know, Yes,

0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I certainly didn't know it was Ash Wednesday. I didn't

0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.680
<v Speaker 1>either until I went to the mall yesterday evening and

0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a third of the people are were walking around with

0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.560
<v Speaker 1>charcoal crosses on their forehead. Nice. It's like, I had

0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.040
<v Speaker 1>no idea Atlanta had this many Catholics, good going, They're

0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.960
<v Speaker 1>everywhere there are Well, I mean that didn't use to

0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.880
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I grew u Baptist here and I

0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't know many Catholics growing up. But well, Atlanta became

0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.839
<v Speaker 1>a transplant towns instead, exactly. And I'll tell you about

0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>another transplant chuck. Possibly life here on Earth from Mars.

0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, is this your intro? Have you got breaking news? No?

0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.200
<v Speaker 1>That was it. Oh do you remember we did an

0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:52.360
<v Speaker 1>episode on UM the Origin of life on Earth? Remember? Uh?

0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. And one of the possibilities that it

0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was from Mars. And one of the um pieces of

0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:05.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence of this possibility was the Alan Hills Rock from Antarctica,

0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a Martian meteorite that was discovered in that was studied

0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and studied and they thought in basically Bill Clinton said,

0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.359
<v Speaker 1>we found evidence of life on Mars. And then they

0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.040
<v Speaker 1>studied it again and they were like, maybe not. And

0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.480
<v Speaker 1>now they're studying it again they're saying, yeah, it's possible.

0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.440
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible that this four point one billion year

0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>old rock is showing evidence of fossilized nano bacteria. And

0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this is all still Bill Clinton saying this. It is

0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.720
<v Speaker 1>underwear at home the authority. He's talking to the TV again.

0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Nice uh, but yeah, we're gonna do how Mars works.

0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hanks, this one's for you, big space guy. Oh yeah, sure, Okay,

0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if I was missing something there, like

0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he did some movie that didn't know about. No, if

0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I said Gary CINESI, this one's for you, there would

0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.760
<v Speaker 1>be a mission to Mars reference. I did not see that.

0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Mind bogglingly odd and pretty bad. Yeah, I heard, That's

0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.200
<v Speaker 1>why I didn't see it. That and Red Planet didn't

0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.120
<v Speaker 1>see either. One of those Red Planet I don't know about. Yeah,

0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.480
<v Speaker 1>but that kind of brings us to a point that

0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.560
<v Speaker 1>we've long been fascinated with the Red Planet, going back

0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to you know, War the Worlds and early science fiction

0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and Martians, and Mars has just always captivated us because

0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes you can see it with a telescope

0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like what's on the other side of

0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Venus Venus. Yeah, we don't know much about Venus mystery.

0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.920
<v Speaker 1>There are no Venusians that we're afraid will come down

0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.400
<v Speaker 1>here and attack us. I think it's Venusians Venetians, which

0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.880
<v Speaker 1>is different from Venetians, which are people from Venice, which,

0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:50.200
<v Speaker 1>strangely enough, UM kind of coincides with the guy named

0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Giovanni shia Parelli. He might not have been from Venice,

0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.680
<v Speaker 1>but that man was definitely from Italy. Do you think,

0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah he was? Can you say his name for everybody? Chuck?

0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Who Givanni? Really? That was good? Man? Have you been

0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.480
<v Speaker 1>practicing at all? No? I just don't even want of pasta.

0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.880
<v Speaker 1>That's good stuff, man. So Um Shipprelli in eighteen seventy

0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.080
<v Speaker 1>seven decided to draw a map of Mars, and his

0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.520
<v Speaker 1>conception of Mars, what became the popular conception, if it

0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:25.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't already UM, was that Mars was a UM, a

0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.440
<v Speaker 1>lush planet with civilizations, and he named the regions of

0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Mars accordingly, like Elysium, which which UM culture believed that

0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that was Heaven. I don't know, I can't remember, man,

0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard that. We you know, we've discussed it before, Elysium.

0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't retained that. UM. Another part was called Utopia Arcadia,

0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.360
<v Speaker 1>basically all these different names for paradise reflected the idea

0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that Mars was a very similar to Earth, most likely

0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:04.200
<v Speaker 1>inhabited by intelligent beings and um. As proof, uh Sia

0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Parelli drew canals that he noticed on the on Mars,

0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.400
<v Speaker 1>which suggested that this advanced civilization had dug canals to

0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.839
<v Speaker 1>um route water from the polar ice caps, which are

0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.279
<v Speaker 1>visible here on Earth, to the central locations where their

0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.039
<v Speaker 1>civilizations were get water to the Martians. Yeah, and this

0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.520
<v Speaker 1>established like what Earthlings thought of Mars for a hundred

0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.679
<v Speaker 1>years almost. Yeah. About forty years after that, a US

0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.520
<v Speaker 1>astronomer named Percival Lowell Um wrote a book also about Mars,

0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.279
<v Speaker 1>where he actually talked about civilizations and h The problem

0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was he he wasn't really based on anything. It might

0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.840
<v Speaker 1>as well have been science fiction, right, and yet they

0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.520
<v Speaker 1>named the Lowell Observatory after him. He was an astronomer,

0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like he was He wasn't just making

0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff up, but he didn't have like hard evidence. He

0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.400
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of stuff up. Okay, he well, he

0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.080
<v Speaker 1>interpreted it without any evidence. Yeah, and then wrote a book,

0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and that became the impetus for Mars based science fiction. Yeah.

0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.919
<v Speaker 1>It really captured folks. And that's when, like I talked about,

0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.400
<v Speaker 1>were the world's and uh Edgar Rice Burrows the Princess

0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of Mars, and it's just always been just out there

0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.640
<v Speaker 1>staring down at it. Yeah, speaking of war the world's.

0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.680
<v Speaker 1>It even says it in this article. It did not

0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.920
<v Speaker 1>cause the national panic in night. That's a myth. Did

0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that? Um? I don't know. I'm not sure

0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I knew the full stories. Supposedly when h when um

0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:39.600
<v Speaker 1>uh who directed Citizen King? When Orson Wells carried out

0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this radio? Yeah, yeah, it's scared everyone, right, it caused

0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a panic, people for wild in the streets, committing suicide,

0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like doing all sorts of stuff. No, it isn't true. Um.

0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the newspapers got wind of this rumor and played

0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it up. And um, the reason they played it up

0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.920
<v Speaker 1>was to prove that radio couldn't be trusted as a

0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.080
<v Speaker 1>source of news because it was a big competitor to

0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.120
<v Speaker 1>newspapers at the time. Have you done Don't Be Dumb

0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.960
<v Speaker 1>on that? No? Maybe I will? Can I plug that?

0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead? Josh? As a web series called Don't Be Dumb?

0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:17.640
<v Speaker 1>That is very funny and uh strange and you learned stuff.

0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like the perfect one to three punch. Weird funny

0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and you walk away with some knowledge. Thanks man, And

0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>everyone likes it that watches it, So we just need

0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.120
<v Speaker 1>more people to watch it. Give me the weird sausage fingers.

0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Steve McQueen clap. That's that is weird? Oh the director?

0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he was clapping weird, wouldn't he at the oscar?

0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Apparently he and um, the screenwriter who won an oscar

0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.080
<v Speaker 1>for that movie for Twelve Years of Slave do not

0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like each other over the writing credit. Oh yeah, the

0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.480
<v Speaker 1>writer walked right past him, and Steve McQueen didn't even

0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.120
<v Speaker 1>turn to look at him as he was walking up

0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to get his oscar. I did kind of notice that. Yeah, well,

0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.520
<v Speaker 1>if you read delisted, he rooted it out and found

0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.640
<v Speaker 1>out that it was over a writing question credit. Is

0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that why he was clapping weirdly? He was showing his

0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this thing with sausage weird. Al right, So, um, this

0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.840
<v Speaker 1>weird early fascination with Mars, Like I said, we didn't

0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.840
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of information other than just sort of

0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at it from earth. Um, And it wasn't until

0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the sixties and seventies that we started in many countries

0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:25.960
<v Speaker 1>started exploring Mars, but we started sending UM orbiters to

0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.880
<v Speaker 1>take a closer peak, and then eventually orbiters led to

0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.480
<v Speaker 1>landers and rovers and it's been like kind of a

0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.920
<v Speaker 1>prime directive of NASA for a while. Yeah, one of them,

0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and and it was UM. When they scrapped the Space

0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Shuttle UM program. I remember NASA was saying like, don't

0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.600
<v Speaker 1>worry everybody, We're gonna go to Mars. We're gonna focus

0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.640
<v Speaker 1>on Mars. That's why we're not doing the Shuttle anymore. UM.

0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And apparently they are. There was just as recently as

0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:58.760
<v Speaker 1>yesterday NASA testified about its budget and UM and they

0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.840
<v Speaker 1>were saying, well, we've got a really great thing plan.

0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get this asteroid. We're gonna maneuver it with

0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a robot into lunar orbit so we can go visit

0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it later. And the Senators at this hearing basically said boring,

0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, they're like, what's this backup Mars mission listed?

0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.720
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh, well, we're talking about doing a

0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:23.439
<v Speaker 1>man fly by a venus and Mars. The senators are like, Mars, Mars, Mars.

0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.520
<v Speaker 1>So it looks like NASA is gonna be forced to

0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.480
<v Speaker 1>go to Mars, whether they like it or not. So

0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's still captivating. If it's captivating. The dumb dums in Congress, well,

0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they even said, like the asteroid mission, that's not gonna

0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.640
<v Speaker 1>spur the public, the public imagination, like going past sending

0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.079
<v Speaker 1>a person past Mars, that's what you want to do, NASA.

0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And NASA's like, all right, but it's gonna we could

0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.640
<v Speaker 1>probably mind the asteroid And the senators I went Mars, Mars, Mars,

0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and they all went to a bar afterward. Yeah again, Jim,

0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to Mars. And he was like,

0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, I guess so. Um, all right, so where

0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.280
<v Speaker 1>should we start here? Um, well, let's start with the

0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.320
<v Speaker 1>origin of Mars. It seems pretty appropriate. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I love how scientists piece together ancient history of the cosmos,

0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, without having ever sent a geologist there. It's

0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.480
<v Speaker 1>all I mean, even before the rovers, it was basically

0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.480
<v Speaker 1>all just based on photographs and and and surmising from those.

0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Now we've got the Curiosity rover, the third rover up there.

0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's still up there, right, yeah, yeah, or it didn't

0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:35.000
<v Speaker 1>come home, does it? No, it will, It's yeah, um,

0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and they were thinking, I think it was a two

0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.839
<v Speaker 1>year mission, but it could go longer than that. I

0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's already gone a little longer than that, because

0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it went isn't really already. I think it

0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.800
<v Speaker 1>went up in late two thousand eleven, So I think

0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been there a little over two years. Well, good

0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.800
<v Speaker 1>going curiosity. I might be wrong. Um. All right, So

0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:57.000
<v Speaker 1>there's basically five things that they surmise happened to four Mars,

0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.120
<v Speaker 1>which will will list and then get into in more detail. Um.

0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It initially formed from clumping together of little tiny objects

0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.480
<v Speaker 1>until it made a big round planet as an accretion disk. Yeah,

0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like just like Earth, just like Earth. Uh. Then there

0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of meteor bombardment all over the Solar System,

0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mars was of course affected just like Earth, just

0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like Earth. In the Moon, the mantle was very hot

0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and pushed through the crust, lifting up portions of it,

0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.679
<v Speaker 1>just like And then there were a couple of uh

0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't know how many, but at least a couple

0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of periods of lots of volcanoes going on it, just

0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like lava flows. And then finally the planet cooled down

0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and the atmosphere thned out to leave this with Mars,

0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.600
<v Speaker 1>unlike Earth, right, Uh, and it Mars formation was virtually

0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.800
<v Speaker 1>identical of the process that formed Earth. It's about half

0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the size, but there in the beginning, as far as

0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.240
<v Speaker 1>makeup and the processes that they were undergoing, they were

0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.559
<v Speaker 1>virtually identical. Yeah, and being half the size is pretty

0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:06.640
<v Speaker 1>key to uh, why it's not like Earth more um

0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons. So I guess we should get

0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.520
<v Speaker 1>into some more detail about this, huh. I think the

0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.760
<v Speaker 1>accretion that you talked about, the small objects about it

0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.360
<v Speaker 1>took about a hundred thousand years, and as the gravitational

0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.400
<v Speaker 1>field got stronger, it kept pulling in more of this

0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.199
<v Speaker 1>stuff and it would crash into the planet and uh

0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and get hot basically and just sort of meld together.

0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.160
<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh, Mars, And that was interesting. I

0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.400
<v Speaker 1>looked at why planets around and the reason why it's

0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because the gravitational field and the spin. Uh, it's sucking

0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.880
<v Speaker 1>everything into the dense core. Yeah, well it's the core.

0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.560
<v Speaker 1>The gravitational field behaves like it's coming from the center,

0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and everything else thinks it's coming from the center. So

0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the only way to get everything is close to the center.

0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.440
<v Speaker 1>As possible is to make a sphere like obviously, if

0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you had a square, that would be a corner that's

0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.800
<v Speaker 1>not as close as other parts. It would be a

0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.280
<v Speaker 1>creepy planet like a cube. Yeah, but I wondered, you know,

0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.160
<v Speaker 1>or why doesn't it look like an asteroid. Let's say,

0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.719
<v Speaker 1>but asteroids don't have the kind of gravitational force to

0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.400
<v Speaker 1>draw everything in like that to form that sphere. It's

0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.840
<v Speaker 1>called isotactic adjustment. Yeah. I just thought, wait a minute,

0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.600
<v Speaker 1>all these things are perfectly round. We're not perfectly around.

0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I want more pyramids. Shake planets would be kind of cool. Um,

0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, so that was the acretion. And now you

0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.800
<v Speaker 1>have gas being released from cooling after the core and

0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.800
<v Speaker 1>mantle and crust have formed in this hot ball. Right,

0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and as the as the gases are being released in

0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the hot ball, um, they are forming this atmosphere. They're

0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.560
<v Speaker 1>supporting an atmosphere there floating out and um kind of

0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:55.120
<v Speaker 1>hanging around. Yeah yeah, yeah, and um, so you've got

0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.280
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere in place. You have a molten core, you

0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.800
<v Speaker 1>have a after mantle, and then a crusts that formed. Yeah,

0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.240
<v Speaker 1>and um, as that that softer mantle and the molten

0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:13.040
<v Speaker 1>core press up you have volcanic activity, yeah, which releases

0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.320
<v Speaker 1>even more heat and gas, which makes the atmosphere even thicker.

0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.560
<v Speaker 1>And at this point they think that there is a

0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 1>period of um water presence on Mars where it was raining.

0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.600
<v Speaker 1>So then after you've got a primitive atmosphere. And then

0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.880
<v Speaker 1>as it says in the article by Craig, he's a

0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.920
<v Speaker 1>great writer for us, Yeah, PhD, that's right. Uh he

0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.280
<v Speaker 1>said March March couldn't catch a break, which was pretty accurate,

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and it was pounded by meteors in the Solar system,

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:49.440
<v Speaker 1>forming craters and basins and all sorts of interesting land forms.

0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the same thing happened here, but we

0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.480
<v Speaker 1>had like water and things like that too, cause erosion

0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and fill it, fill it in. On the Moon there

0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't anything like that, so you still see those craters.

0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And but the same thing happened on Mars. Yeah, and

0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.160
<v Speaker 1>actually there was water on Mars um that bombardment in

0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the that caused the magma to come up out of

0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the core of of Mars, creating volcanic activity and shifts

0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in the mantle and the crust um all released hot

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.200
<v Speaker 1>gas into the Martian atmosphere, which thickened it and increased

0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:30.720
<v Speaker 1>its temperature, which led to rain, yes, rain, flooding, erosion.

0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So there was like a period at least for a

0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.600
<v Speaker 1>little while of um the presence of water on Mars.

0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:44.280
<v Speaker 1>There still is, dude, the presence of unfrozen flowing water.

0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, there's not flowing water right as of September

0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.200
<v Speaker 1>of last year, they found water in the dirt. Yeah,

0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty exciting to pint for cubic foot. Yeah, but

0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's a spoiler. Sorry, actually it can't be a spoiler.

0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.480
<v Speaker 1>That happened in the bast right, Yeah, but if if

0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard of it anyeh, all right, uh so

0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.160
<v Speaker 1>then Craig likens to Mars at this point is a

0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.680
<v Speaker 1>soft boiled egg and as the eggshell is cooling, uh,

0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the the yoke is gonna start busting through the mantle.

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's like on Earth is what is going to

0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>form things like volcanoes. And again those volcanoes and that

0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.600
<v Speaker 1>activity led to that atmosphere in the periods of rain

0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and flooding and erosion. Olympus Mons, Yeah, that's a good

0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>pixie songs. That a pixie song for a dream of

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the Olympus. Mons. Nice. Yeah, I don't think I need

0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that one. What's that on? Uh okay? Uh? Olympus Mons

0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>is the largest volcano there and it's like it makes

0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Mountain Evers look like a mole hill. As a matter

0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.960
<v Speaker 1>of fact, it's the largest point in the known Solar system,

0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the highest point. Yeah, yeah, the tallest. Um. Remember our

0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>myth busting episode where we showed that Mount Everest wasn't

0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the tallest mountain. It's mounta loa Um on Earth. Mounta

0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.440
<v Speaker 1>looa is um something like I think it's six miles

0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>from the ocean floor. Uh, yes, there rises sick nice

0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.080
<v Speaker 1>chuck and um. It's a hundred and forty miles wide

0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.560
<v Speaker 1>at its base. That's a big mountain on Earth. On Mars,

0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.960
<v Speaker 1>which is again half the size of Earth in diameter,

0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Olympus Mons is sixteen miles tall. And that's not from

0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.280
<v Speaker 1>an ocean floor either. Yeah, you know, because there is

0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.560
<v Speaker 1>no ocean on Marks exactly. But if you want to

0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:42.520
<v Speaker 1>see something cool, type in Mars, what would Mars look

0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like with ocean and people have done like um simulations

0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. It looks really neat, like vacation worthy, like

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you would want to go there to vacam He's like

0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a sunny beach with it looks like Earth but with

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 1>weird continents. Um. And then it's three seventy miles across

0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Olympus mons is. That's large. It's big. And they have

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like pictures if you google it, Uh, compare it to

0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Everest and it just dwarfs it. That's right. And you

0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>can see pictures of it too, you know, they snapped

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:19.800
<v Speaker 1>photos of it. It's pretty impressive. It's large volcano which

0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.240
<v Speaker 1>eventually went dormant. All the volcanoes on Mars went dormant

0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.880
<v Speaker 1>somewhere possibly about three billion years ago. And um, as

0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the volcanoes went dormant, the the the heat was released. Basically, Yeah,

0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Mars had no more heat to give from its core um,

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>which meant the atmosphere wasn't being fed any longer, so

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it thin, which led to a drop in temperatures. Yeah.

0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>And how we mentioned earlier, how the fact that it

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was smaller than Earth is one reason why it's not

0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.480
<v Speaker 1>more like Earth. That's the reason it cooled so fast,

0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.280
<v Speaker 1>like Earth wouldn't have cooled nearly as fast, no, huh.

0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And um, it also kept a magnetic field going thanks

0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>to its molten core. Mars did not any longer, so

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you got a thin atmosphere, cold temperatures. Um the atmosphere

0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.479
<v Speaker 1>that was there started freezing and falling two Mars and

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.720
<v Speaker 1>was stored as ice. Any water that was already on

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the planet's surface turned into perma frost, and um Mars

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 1>became it underwent what's called the Great desiccation event, where

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it became a barren, deserted, desert planet. Yeah. Before that,

0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 1>these were this kind of happened in cycles for a while,

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like the volcanic action, and then the gas is being

0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>released in like major flooding from water, until like you said,

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 1>eventually it's the cold, not hot, but cold, dusty place

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that we love today. Yeah. And what's um interesting is

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that Earth and Mars were so similar as they formed

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and about at the same time, about three billion years ago,

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Mars underwent the Great Desiccation event and Earth underwent the

0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Great Oxygenation event, which gave rise to all life here

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:04.080
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, the appearance of algae, which created a breathable

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere almost at about the same time, So they totally

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.200
<v Speaker 1>diverged in two different paths that around the same time.

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the main reason was because of its size. Yeah,

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the cooling another Earth. Yes, it's interesting. Had it been

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the exact same size, who knows, maybe we'd be like

0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 1>going there and back right now, right on vacation. Like,

0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.639
<v Speaker 1>how was a good one for Colin Farrell? Did you

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.240
<v Speaker 1>see the remake? No? Although I heard the Robo Cup

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.920
<v Speaker 1>remake was like surprisingly good, I haven't expecting that. I

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it either. Yeah, that's what I'll definitely wait

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 1>for TV for that one. You know, Uh, you really

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>don't care about seeing that one, not even DVD like TV. Well,

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch dvs. Okay, I'm streaming like the rest

0:20:54.119 --> 0:21:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of the modern world, not even a laser disk. Uh.

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Should we talk about what it's like there? Yeah, on

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the surface, yes, the surface of mars Um. Scientists have

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 1>divided it into three major parts, the southern highlands, the

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 1>northern plains, and the polar regions, which we already said

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see from Earth polar ice caps. Yeah,

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.919
<v Speaker 1>just like her. But the ice caps are made of

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide, so it's dry ice ice caps, and then

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 1>underneath there's water ice. So the southern highlands are vast.

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I love our morning shows. It's always a little more

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.479
<v Speaker 1>like laid back. I feel like yeah, like I'm sleepy. Yeah,

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not riddle with anxieties yet. No, that comes on

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 1>about noon. Yeah, I haven't had enough coffee yet. So

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got your Southern Highlands, and like I said, they

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>are extensive and vast and uh, it is elevated. It's

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.119
<v Speaker 1>not the highest part of Mars and heavily cratered and

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>again the highest part of the solar system, right, because

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's where Olympus Mons is, that's right in the southern region,

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the Southern Highlands. Uh. And they scientists think it's ancient

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>um these highlands because of the craters, because the cratering

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>happened close to four billion years ago and that was

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>just meteors kind of just pounding the solar system all

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 1>over the place. So the Southern Highlands are high and

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 1>then there's a very um pronounced drop of several kilometers

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:27.080
<v Speaker 1>down to the um northern plains, which are low lying regions.

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.919
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot like the season the moon um.

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:35.400
<v Speaker 1>But they do feature raised areas plateaus a couple of them. Yeah,

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 1>the cinder cones. Yeah, well, the cinder cones are on

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the plateaus. I think basically the mantle bulged up through

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the crust is thinner in the northern region, and the

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 1>mantle just pushed up and formed like continent sized plateaus

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>um that are called crustal upwarps. That's a great word. Yeah,

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking I was reading it wrong. Nope, crystal upwarps. Uh.

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 1>And the these crystal upwarps, there's two of them. One

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>is smaller, it's Elysium remembered Paradise, that's right, and the

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>other one is called Tarsus arcs uh. In the Northern

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Hemisphere is divided into eastern and western hemispheres. Tharsis is

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>in the west and Elysium is in the east. Yes,

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>celestial names are so cool, it really are. You know,

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 1>what do we have on Earth? New Jersey not thar No,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 1>start a campaign to rename New Jersey Tharsis um and

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>then like the main city could be Tharci City, which

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds super futuristic, and in fact it's Newark. Every citizen

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>has issued is sparkly silver jumps. Oh uh, so you've

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>called out Olympus. Mons is the highest point that is

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.239
<v Speaker 1>where in the It's in the Stars region, which this

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>article is confusing because it mentions the Sarsest reason region

0:23:55.840 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>in the southern um the hemisphere and in the northern hemisphere. Uh.

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>And I looked all over the place to find definitively

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>where it is. And I think the discrepancy comes from

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's equatorial. Okay, it's pretty close to

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the equator Olympus Mons definitely is. So maybe it's both right,

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's about at that point, um that the uh,

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the highlands drop off into the northern plains. That's right.

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>And Uh, in Tharcis you have some pretty impressive canyons um,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a system called the Vallis Marineris, and it makes the

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon look like a tiny little hole in the ground.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>It is three hundred and seventy miles wide and twenty

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>six thousand, four hundred feet deep. Not to slay the

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon, but if you've ever been there, imagine something

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>dwarfing that even, right. And again, Mars is half the

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>size of Earth, right, and it doesn't even just dwarf

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Canyon. It's bigger than the Mariana Trench, which

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 1>is eighty miles long, so it's a good foul and

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>miles longer than the Marianna Trench. And the Mariana Trench

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>is forty three miles wide. The Vallis Marineris is seventy

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>miles wide. Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, so it's a big

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>old trench, Like you can't even comprehend that kind of

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>size when you're standing there. No, I imagine when you're

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in it. You can't see the edges or anything like that.

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So you're just of course you can't be in it

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>because you know, people can't go to Mars. But you know,

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean, we will eventually. You think

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk predicts he will retire and die and be

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>buried on Mars. That's what he's he said. It's not

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>a certainty, but it's a possibility. But that's his goal. Yeah. Wow,

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Well he's got the dough to make it happen, I guess,

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and the vision, Like you say the same thing, but

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you've just got the vision, you don't have the billions

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>of dollars. And it's not even my vision. I'm just

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>reporting what Elon Musk said. You know, oh, I thought

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to do that as well. Now go to Mars.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You want to get shot out of a cannon? I

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>would I abandoned that a long time ago. Yeah, Um,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>what's the new plan cremated, yeah, distributed with Umi. Okay,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that's nice. She's really calmed you down. She's like, first,

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>first things first, this canniball thing, right, it's gotta go.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Um the polar regions you can see from Earth, like

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>we said, and it is surrounded by a bunch of dunes,

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 1>and they are like, I think you said it was

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>frozen carbon dioxide. Right, So it's not like the ice

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>we have here on Earth. No, it's well, we have

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it here on Earth, dry ice. Well yeah, but just

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not our polar ice cap, right, and like Earth,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>depending on the season, the ice caps are gonna change

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>shape in the summertime. The CEO two from the northern caps,

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>uh melt away and and there's water ice below that,

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>so not dry ice as they call it in Spanish

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>agua ice. And that's why apparently we sent the phoenix there. Uh.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>They were like, send that thing up there and dig

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>down into the frozen dirt and let's see what it's

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>made up of. Right, And they found water. They found uh,

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>two pints. Phoenix didn't find it. Phoenix found like found

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>uh that the Martian soil is filled with perchlorate, which

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>is a big problem for Mars missions. Yeah, that's like

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>very bad for human beings. It's extremely toxic. Gets a

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>thyroid toxin has a very quick effect um as a

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>developmental effect on infants and um photuses, So reproducing on

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Mars would be a big problem. And even in adults,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it has a big effect on your thyroid, which affects

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>your hormone production function UM. And it's everywhere. It's in

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the light Martian dust and Mars has tons of dust

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>storms that enveloped the whole planet, which we'll talk about

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for like weeks at a time. Yeah, and there there's

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>per chlorice in those dust storms, so it would get everywhere.

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So they just found out like a couple of months

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>ago that this is everywhere and it's going to be

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a huge challenge to Mars missions in the future. But

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, now that we know about it, we can

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>design around it. Yeah, it just seems so uninhabitable, Like,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if our lifetime we're gonna see it

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>a manned mission. Maybe we'll definitely see a fly by. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>a man fly by. Yeah, Okay, you and Elon Musk,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 1>we will That's not even just me. Elon Musk in

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the Senate. Okay, yeah, Mars Mark, they're all so excited,

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>So Chucker's up next. We're gonna talk about the interior

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of Mars, because it's what's on the inside that counts.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna do that after these messages. Okay, so

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>we're back and we're talking about Mars's interior, And to

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about mars interior is really boring unless you compared

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to Earth, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>this is cool. So let's compare to Earth. The Earth's

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>core is um has a radius of about from the

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>center to the surface, and is made up of iron

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>in two parts, the solid core and the liquid outer core,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and the interplay between those two creates Earth's magnetic field,

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>which allows for the northern lights. Oh yeah, encompasses. What else? Ah,

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's about it. Okay, Mars's core radius is only about

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>nine um and between nine miles, and it is probably

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>made up also of iron, but throwing some sulfur, maybe

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a little oxygen, and they believe. Uh, I don't I

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't get this. He said it may be made up

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe malten but it's unlikely, so they still don't know.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess and they think that. The reason they don't

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>think that it's molten though, is because Mars has a

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>very weak magnetic field. Um, but maybe not always. Yeah,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it probably had a strong magnetic field and the and

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>before the great desiccation event um, but now it doesn't have.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>When they think that if it is molten, it's not,

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot to it. Okay, Yeah, that makes sense.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Around the Earth, score is softer mantle like toothpaste, and

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>it's way less dense than it is iron and magnesium silicate,

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>about eight hundred miles thick. And that's when you see

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a volcano and lava flowing from a volcano, that's where

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that's coming from. Well, it comes from the magma through

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.719
<v Speaker 1>there the liquid all right, wasn't it I think? So

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>we did a podcast on volcanos. Remember that was a

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>good one, the volcano one. I was worried about it,

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and Chuck, the mantle pushing up through the through the

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>surface accounts for those crustal uplifts, up up warps, up warps.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's right. Um. And here on Earth we have

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>things like volcanoes, active volcanoes and earthquakes, and they're largely

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>due to if not exclusively due to um the fact

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that we have continental plates like the crust of Earth,

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>which Mars also has a crust, but Earth's crust is

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>broken up into these plates that drift and move around

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>slowly and rub up against one another. Um. And that's

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>where the fault lines exist. And along those fault lines

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you have volcanoes and earthquakes. Mars, that's not the case

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>as a crust, but it's not broken into place. It's solid. Yeah.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty interesting, and that's why there's

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>no active volcanoes right now for one reason. Yeah. Um.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And we while we're talking about Mars, well we probably

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>should have mentioned it on the surface, but it's a

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.479
<v Speaker 1>neat little tidbit if you ask me, do you know

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>why Mars is rust colored? Uh? No, because it's coated

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in rusty. Yeah, it's exodised iron in the soil, which

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>makes it rusted. It's a rusty old planet, a rusty, dusty, cold, windy,

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>uninhabitable perhaps planet. And again, the reason why it's probably

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>uninhabitable is it lacks an atmosphere, or it practically lacks

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere. There is a very thin one still. Yeah,

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can compare that to Earth. To um,

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>March's atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide. On Earth, it's less

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>than one percent, Like you could just stop right there. Toxic,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot less nitrogen two point seven percent compared to Earth.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Not much oxygen at all, only point one three that's

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a big factor's toxic again and um about one as

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>much water vapor is on Earth. Yeah, you need that

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>too inhospitable, which is why they there are proposals to

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.479
<v Speaker 1>seed Mars to terraform it. Yeah, basically going and like

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>artificially stimulate an atmosphere to form so that in ten

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand and fifty hundred thousand years it could conceivably be habitable. Yeah,

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and we we did a show on that too. It

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is all coming together. It's a long term plan, but sure,

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>which means we'll never do it. Elon muskwill maybe his grandchildren.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh So. The atmospheric pressure in Mars is interesting too.

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It's super low and super cold, and that's why there

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is no water liquid flowing, because it's either going to

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:45.959
<v Speaker 1>freeze or evaporate. They can't just exist as water these days. Nope.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>But like we said, possibly probably did at one point.

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So you've got a thin atmosphere, which means a lot

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of um solar radiation is not blocked, is not reflected um,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>which means that you have very wild swings in daily

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>average temperature on Mars. Because Mars does have a day,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it does rotate, and actually it rotates it about the

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>same rate as Earth. The Mars salt which is short

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>for solar day, it's just about forty three minutes longer

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>than um Earth's day. Yeah, but because it's further out

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>away from the Sun, it's orbit around the Sun takes longer.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's year is about twice as long as a

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.479
<v Speaker 1>year on Earth six hundred and eighty six point nine

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>eight Earth days, which means the seasons lasts longer, which

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>makes them more extreme as we'll see. Yeah, and you

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about the temperature fluctuation. It's almost a hundred degrees

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>fahrenheit on a daily basis. The difference in temperature that's enormous. Again,

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>not very friendly for us humans. Now, well, we'll figure

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it out. You have to pack a big suitcase, you know,

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you have to pack your your thong as well as

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>your Arctic explore You could just wear a thong under

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>your Earth coast there, it's the key to Mars. Where

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>layers pack big where layers. But like you said, there

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>are seasons in the spring and early summer, the sun

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>heats up the atmosphere and the dust lifts up and

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and makes it even hotter once that dust is in

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere, and it basically is what causes those big

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 1>dust storms we're talking about. Yeah, the dust. The dust

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>particles get suspended and invite more heat, which suspends more

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>particles than um. It creates wind there winds. Yeah, well,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>just like here on Earth, it creates convection cells, which

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>creates wind. And as those wind speeds whip up, because

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere is thinner, you have to have higher speeds

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>because the wind has less to push against air to

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>push against, so it takes higher speed winds. But once

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they do hit something like a hundred and twenty miles

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>an hour, the entire planet can become enveloped in a

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>dust storm that can last months. That's crazy. And again

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not just dust. It's dust with one of the

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>more toxic compounds known to humanity in every bit of it. Yeah,

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's not gonna blow off a Mars robe or

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>these things. You know, way like in the tons, yes,

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>one ton, one ton. And actually what's strange is the

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>dust storms, it says are beneficial because they will blow

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the any um Martian dirt caked on the solar panels. Yeah,

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense too, or maybe it might reveal something

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah that wasn't there before, like a pyramid. That'd be

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, Chuck. I want to talk about water on Mars,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:55.959
<v Speaker 1>but first let's um do a message break and we're back.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So I guess let's get to the water part um.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>That was NASA's direct to follow the water for many

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>years and still is really because they think they're in holds.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>The key to the big question is there possibilities of

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>having life on Mars? Is there life? Was their life

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>on Mars? And we're not talking about Martians unfortunately, we're

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about maybe bacteria, which could be Martians. I mean,

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>if it lives on Mars, it's Martian. I guess it's

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a good point. Everybody just basically needs to lower the

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>bar for their expectations of what a Martian is. Yeah, right,

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Instead of little green men,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it's bacteria and um. When this article was written, it

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 1>was pre curiosity, but it's just a couple of months ago,

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>curiosity confirmed, uh that there is water present in the soil,

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and they think it's everywhere. Yeah, it's basically the soil

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>has a very big leaching property, yeah, where it absorbs

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>water from the atmosphere and locks it in there, so

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that if if we went up there, we could extract

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>um about like I said, two pints of water from

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>every cubic foot of soil that's mine. It's pretty It

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. Again, though, we have that per chlorate problem.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>It's everywhere. It would get in the water, and one

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of the ways that it transfers to humans and becomes

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 1>toxic is through drinking water, so we'd have to deal

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>with that. But ironically, the thing about par chlorate being there,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's also used in solid rocket fuel here on Earth.

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So we would need it to get to Mars, but

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>once we got to Mars, we wouldn't want to have it. Interesting,

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that is very ironic. Thanks. So you're talking, Chuck about

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>how water could consuerably lead to life on Mars. We

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's vital to life. It's one of the um vital

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>parts of life. I can't remember the term for him.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Not a building block, one of the essential some things

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for life component. Yes, yeah, I think that is it

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>essential component for life. We worked that out together. This

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 1>has been a condition and no, no, Now they found

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>water on Mars and confirmed that it is there, and

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>they knew all along that there was water ice on Mars. Um.

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 1>It makes that Martian rock from four billion years ago

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>seem all the more likely that it is displaying evidence

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of fossilized microbes. Yeah. And they used to think that

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>there was methane UH in the atmosphere or trace amounts,

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>but I think that has been debunked now with upon

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>further research. Yeah. Yeah, because again when this article was written,

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like they thought it was still like they

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>still head detective methane and they didn't know whether it

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was from of biological or chemical origin. Yeah. More recent

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>studies UM as of October two thousand twelve, UM, they

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>analyzed the atmosphere UH for methane six times and basically

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>found no more than one point three parts per billion.

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's not good for evidence of life. Yeah, and

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that's about one six as much as they had previously estimated.

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And they thought, well, maybe it went somewhere, you know,

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and and they NASA said, now it wouldn't um. It

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>would have been super exciting, but it's methane doesn't distribute

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and leave like that that quickly, like it would still

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>be around. So unfortunately, no methane. Speaking of methane um

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>as evidence of like remember our termite episode, somebody wrote

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>in to say, did you know termites or like a

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>huge contributor of methane to on Earth. They're the second

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>largest contributor of methane after five stock. Yeah. Wow, even

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 1>beating out humans. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, because we shoot

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ducks, we humans, some of us termites,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>flatulent insects. Uh so. Bacteria um Martian soil has been

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>known to be like formally chemically active, but maybe not biologically,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>but it is possible, maybe because they have a good

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>example in Greenland. UM they found bacteria that was dormant

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for a hundred and twenty thousand years frozen in the ice,

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and when they unfroze it, it started multiplying again in

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the apocalypse. Yeah, that's kind of creepy. Yeah,

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>but like it's not stopping. Possibly in the polarized keps

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>on Mars maybe that's going on too. Yeah, we just

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yet Yeah, they think that. Um it is

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>very possible that you could take some of them, the

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.720
<v Speaker 1>extreme A file bacteria, ones that live like in um

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>volcanic events undersea and things like that, and transplant them

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 1>too Mars and some of them would survive, especially mineral

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>thriving um bacteria ones that like eat minerals. You could

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>put them on Mars and they would they would do okay.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Possibly well spaceships like if we could possibly bring our

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>own bacteria there by accident as well, you know, just

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>from like I think the International Space Station had E.

0:41:56.000 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Colid in it. Yeah, and possibly Lee Jonella. There's disease

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>on the I S I YEA or the I S S.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a like a movie waiting to happen. Sure,

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess we sort of did that with Outland. Was there?

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Was it a disease a disease? It was just a

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>cop chasing a bad guy again. I wonder if it

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>holds up. I doubt it. Yeah, if it held up,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it'd be alien like. It would still be in the rotation.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But Outline doesn't play on cable very often that it

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't. That is pretty good evidence too. I remember

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the Outland Mad magazine. Um I didn't have that one. Yeah,

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a good one. Um So, Chuck. You remember

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about way back how the UM Viking

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and UM Mariner and Mars orbiters provided this evidence that

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Mars was just a dead, barren planet and really undermine

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the idea that there was possibly life there and that

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it was lush. Well, it all so provided some conspiracy

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>theorists pretty solid evidence that there was or is some

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of civilization on Mars, because yeah, Viking one in

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies six produced a photo that looked a whole

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 1>lot like a Feronic type face, like the face on Mark.

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Pretty clearly a face if you look at it. Uh,

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 1>it was two miles from head to toe, from tip

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to to bottom. So it wasn't like Jesus on a

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>piece of toast. No, I mean, it looked like it

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>looked like a artificially constructed monument, a face of a monument.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe when that had toppled, it was now just poking

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 1>out from the Martian soul soil. Um So they looked,

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>uh closer in, but there's a lot of cloud cover,

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 1>so they got kind of a garbled look. And they

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>looked again more recently maybe two thousand eight or two

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven, And it's very clearly just a mesa. That's disappointing.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>It is, especially like when you look at that original yea, yeah,

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>when you look at the Viking one photo. Yeah, it

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>looks like a top old statue head. Yeah it does.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>It actually factored into that terrible movie um Mission to Mars, Wow,

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>which I saw with hippie rob By the way. Really yea,

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>was that is the last time you saw him? It

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>was among that he just walked into the woods after that.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that? That was Brian to Palmer, wasn't it. I

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>think it might have been so disappointing. I mean it

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>had an all circust Gary Sinise, don Cheetle. I think

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Bill Paxton maybe I don't think it's Pullman, but I

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>might be confusing Bill Paxton from Apolar thirteen. Anyway, it

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't pan out very well. But do you got anything else? Yeah? Um,

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:54.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this article doesn't mention if Mars

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>has two moons, phobos and demos. Yeah, they didn't get

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>into that at all. No, um and uh, Mars popped

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 1>up and pops up and pop culture a lot. There's

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>um the Mars Volta the band. Yeah. Uh. David Bowie

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>had a song called Life on Mars, one of the

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>great songs. The Misfits had the greatest Mars song, Teenagers

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>from Mars. That's a great song. Yeah. Oh, what's his name?

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Jared Leto right thirty seconds to Mars. Yeah, they're going

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.959
<v Speaker 1>on tour right after his Oscar Win. I had never

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 1>heard any of his music until the other day. I

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, what are they like? And Emily tried to

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>describe it. Then she just played a song. Yeah, it's

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>not my bag, mine anything, but good for him. Oh yeah,

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they're like huge internationally. Yeah, he's got gout.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? I did not know that he

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 1>needs to lay off the path? No, I think he um.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it was had to do with his weight

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>gain and loss for the John Lennon um the Mark

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>David Chapman movie. He did, Oh really, Yeah, he got

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all fat to play Mark David Chapman and like got

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>all skinny again. I think got gout because of it,

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and then got even skinnier to play Rayon in Dallas

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Biberus Club. Dude, have you seen it? Yes? How thin

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>can two people get? They were pretty thin, like the

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>two of them together make me. And there's gotta be

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. There's gotta be a safe way to lose

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 1>and regain weight. Yeah, but I'll bet there's not very

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>many safe ways to gain wait to make yourself look pudgy, no,

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then to lose it again. I'll bet

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>when it's been done, Like from DeNiro to fat mac

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>On always sunny. I think they say they just eat

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like lots of garbage and just pile it on. Yeah,

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not I'll beat at all now. But you know

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that's one of my pet peeves. When you take a

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>fit person in like the game thirty pounds for a

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>movie and it it's like, you don't look like a

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>fatter person and you look like a fit person who

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like has a distended belly. You know, it takes years

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>to get this look. You know you gotta work at it,

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>sculpt this. Yeah, um, okay, you got anything else? I

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>got nothing else. I think this is better than the sun.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. As far as our our celestial episodes go

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>far less physics that we had to deal with. We

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't done the moon straight up? Have we? I think

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>we have? Have we? Jerry? Have we done the moon.

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I think we did because we talked about its origin,

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it was calved, whether it was a separate decreation.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure we've done the moon. All right, we'll

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>look it up. It is getting bad. We need we

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>need to get a list together. Yeah, we do, so

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 1>we quit boring everyone with this. Yeah, you'd think we'd

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>edited out, but we just don't. Well, if you want

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about Mars, you can type that word

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>into the search bar how stuff works dot com. And uh,

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>since I said search bar, it's time for listener mail. Uh, Josh,

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this um your theory on eating what

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>you crave? Did you see this email? No? Um, just

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to the Salt podcast. Dudes, and Josh posture that

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you could get along just fine eating only what you crave.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how serious he was, though fairly serious,

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>fairly okay, I'll agree that if it depends on whether

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm right, I'll agree that a hundred and fifty years

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>ago this may have been pretty viable. These days, it's

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a different story. There's a lot of evidence that points

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>to food manufacturers actually designing junk foods that make you

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>crave more of them. Mainly sugar and fat heavy foods.

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>There's one great book in particular called Good Calories, Bad

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Calories by Gary Tobbs, basically tells the story of how

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what the f d A and U

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 1>s d A recommends as wrong and how it got

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that way. For instance, the guy who conducted the Seven

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Countries study, which is what caused the government to say

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>fat will kill you, simply throughout data that contradicted the

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>result he was looking for. Throwing the fact that corn

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 1>is subsidized and super cheap, we have the recipe for

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>an obese, misinformed population that's addicted to sugar. Has been

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>fed terribly wrong information and about health for a long time. Yeah,

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I've learned recently, like you're supposed to have fats, and

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 1>there are good fats and there are bad fats, but

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 1>like low fat is a not a good way to go,

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and it has been kind of foisted on us, foisted

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you like the venue. That word, and that is from

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Steve Baum, the bomber in what he calls good Old

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey or as we calls Parsis. Is he from

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Tharsus City, that is steep Bomb. I don't know if

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>he's from Tharsus City or not, but he's from somewhere

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in There is a really good article about um, how

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>food scientists engineer foods to make us crave them is

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on the New York Times. It was a couple of

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>years ago by a guy named Michael Moss. Yeah, and

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 1>in your defense, I don't think you were. I think

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you meant it more along the lines of craving real

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>foods and not in a surely I'm craving ben and

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's or pretzels, right. No. I meant like, like craving

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>a steak or something like that, not ignoring that and

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>going with, you know, ahead of lettuce Um. I can't

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>find the name of that article, but it's a Michael

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Moss article and it's from the New York Times, and dude,

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it is good. It's one of those really extensive long

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.479
<v Speaker 1>form ones that like should be long form because there's

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>just so much great information in it opening. So look

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it up, everybody. It will open your eyes. Uh. If

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to get in touch with Chucking Me, you

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>can tweet to us at s y s K podcast.

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>You can join us on Facebook dot com slash stuff

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you should know. You can send us an email to

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff podcasts at Discovery dot com. Check out our YouTube channel,

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Josh and Chuck. It's pretty fun, and also be sure

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to hang out on our website Stuff you Should Know

0:50:52.680 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>dot com. For more on this and thousands of other topics,

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>visit how stuff Works dot com. M hm hm