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Speaker 1: your weird one. Here's what's cup it up on the

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Speaker 1: program today. Two games in London. That's the news this week.

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Speaker 1: Cohn and Lamping will hear from the Jaguars owner and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars president. Front office. Edition will talk a little

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Speaker 1: ball coming up, quarterback talk as well, and we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Let's start off with the

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Speaker 1: big news of the week, the Jaguars taking two home

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Speaker 1: games to London and consecutive weeks. The weeks and the

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Speaker 1: opponents will be named later, but the bears of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers games are protected in Jacksonville, Ashland. Sullivan this week

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Speaker 1: asked owner shot Con why the move When I was

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Speaker 1: do we have to do to win on the field.

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Speaker 1: That's paramount to us, But then we have to win

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Speaker 1: when they announced this national Sullivan the full interview available

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com did a fantastic job. Was very

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Speaker 1: well done. It really was, and so check out the

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Speaker 1: full conversation there. A little later in the day, the

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Speaker 1: announcement came out and Jaguars president Mark Lamping explained why

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Speaker 1: now is the right time to add a second game,

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Speaker 1: competing with other teams who have radically changed their revenue

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Speaker 1: expectations each year, like the Jaguars, we are entering a

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Speaker 1: uncertain time. That uncertain time is related to three teams

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Speaker 1: They have taken step steps that that that we would

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Speaker 1: not consider. But they've taken steps to fix their revenue

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Speaker 1: in terms of all the other teams that are at

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Speaker 1: dividends for us. But we can't snap our fingers and

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Speaker 1: get Latch open tomorrow. So as we're waiting to go

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Speaker 1: and we believe that London fits that bill. Uh. Not

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Speaker 1: So fellas there we go to home games at Wimbley. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You're frustrated, that's fine, that's natural, but that it's only

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have all these different things, hopefully shipyards

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Speaker 1: London is part of that strategy where we sit right now.

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Speaker 1: Mark said it perfectly. The teams that had lower revenue

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Speaker 1: So you had a bad season, no change or not

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Speaker 1: the impression that I get from listening to Shan Khan

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Speaker 1: is that this organization, Hey, Doug moro own and Dave calledwell,

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Speaker 1: they need to win this year playoff team, and as

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Speaker 1: Sean said, the record will tell you whether or not

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Speaker 1: that this was the right decision or that his decision

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Speaker 1: was the right one. That's the beauty of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now you get a grade at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: and that's your record. Well, the grade has been bad

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Speaker 1: around here a lot. It has a lot of f's

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Speaker 1: F D minus. Um. I agree with Jeff said, you

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Speaker 1: know the reason to kill it? Uh was I surprised

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Speaker 1: some of the decisions. Sure would I maybe have done

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Speaker 1: things differently, absolutely, but who like you know what like

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Speaker 1: that we'll find out the truth or what's right, what

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Speaker 1: opinion is correct sometimes you know, about eleven months from

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Speaker 1: now we will know. Like what Sean said is like

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Speaker 1: that's like one point of view saying I want stability.

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Speaker 1: You know, if we're gonna go with Gardner, minshew, you

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Speaker 1: believe that's what they're gonna do. Well, I don't. That's

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Speaker 1: the feeling I get. Let me ask you this. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna delve into the quarterbacks a little bit later, so

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Speaker 1: let's not go too deep here. But my point is

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Speaker 1: think but thereafter, but I don't want to, Okay, Gardner

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Speaker 1: met you any position named player if you feel and

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Speaker 1: your strategy is having stability at the head coaching position

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Speaker 1: in the GMS GM position and changing the structure which

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Speaker 1: we can get into that which is I've said on

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Speaker 1: JP you and I talked about it, and Jeff you

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Speaker 1: as well. It's shocking to me that over the last

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Speaker 1: three years they haven't been working together like somehow this

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Speaker 1: is some new revelation that the GM and coach is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be on the same page like together. But

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Speaker 1: it's a different story for a different day. Um. But

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Speaker 1: his strategy is saying like this, and I believe stability

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Speaker 1: is important right now and more turnover isn't gonna help

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Speaker 1: us win next year. Okay, I can't like. That's a

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Speaker 1: point of view that the perspective. That is one strategy.

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Speaker 1: Now I can agree or disagree with the strategy, but

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a sound strategy from a standpoint of

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would tell you that's a good

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Speaker 1: course to take, and we'll find out if it's the

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Speaker 1: right course or not. Like shot said Jeffy repeated, the

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Speaker 1: wins and losses will tell us because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, one thing matters and one thing only,

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Speaker 1: and that's winning. And losing. And if you have two

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Speaker 1: more els th ws, well then your strategy or the

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Speaker 1: people executing your strategy are wrong. It should take typically

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Speaker 1: it takes an organization to build, you know, to get

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Speaker 1: to get where you want to get gone takes three

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Speaker 1: years to build, right, I mean that's typically right about

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Speaker 1: that time frame. Trade argue they might have been quicker

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Speaker 1: if Grappo didn't get hurt last year Kansas City. Uh

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Speaker 1: it took him one year soon as yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: mean you got you gotta count the years that he

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Speaker 1: had Alex Smith at the home. But then they made

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Speaker 1: the bull for you. Look, well the first year, uh

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Speaker 1: Andy back up. First year Andy took over there two

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Speaker 1: and fourteen. I think that next year they were competitive

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Speaker 1: at least. So it was one year for Andy. So

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's competitive, but any reason, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you won the best coaches in history that's looked to

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Speaker 1: by far. I'm very happy for him. By the way, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we haven't do we even we even have anything in

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure important part of the league,

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Speaker 1: but something. But my point is is that you typically

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Speaker 1: to to build an organization. You're talking about three years

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback to be able to do that. All right, son,

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Speaker 1: we can you guys stop you right there because this

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Speaker 1: hit me because I did the game this weekend off

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Speaker 1: the past weekend, uh, the super Bowl. You know, the

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Speaker 1: year that the Chiefs picked. They're coming off a playoff

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Speaker 1: They traded everything they needed to trade to get the

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Speaker 1: ten to take a kid from Texas Tech that they

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Speaker 1: thought could be special, even though they had a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that could lead them to the playoffs. That hit me

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Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks. Is like if you if

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Speaker 1: regardless of the cost. So that because of you my question,

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Speaker 1: can we go there? Now? Let's come back. I just

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Speaker 1: stand pat with your quarterback room right now? If you're

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Speaker 1: If you have two, you don't have one. I think

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Speaker 1: that's an old adage. Uh. Frankly, this past year proved

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't have made it. So, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: so this is in a way an embarrassment of Riches

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Speaker 1: It'll go back to Tuesday's next week. It was on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday this week, so Tuesday next week, I think at

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Speaker 1: nine am is when those shows will begin. So check

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Speaker 1: those out on the Jaguars social media pages. Quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: Aris been of riches. Two quarterbacks, and you know Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles obviously started here comes Gardner means you six and six,

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Speaker 1: everybody's on the roster. Josh jobs around there. Down the

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Speaker 1: depth chart a little bit, there's your quarterback room. Where

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Speaker 1: is this quarterback room right now? And will there'll be

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Speaker 1: where will there be changes or additions to that quarterback room?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, Lucks, it seems like you were really

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Speaker 1: locked into this topic earlier. Well, I I don't agree

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Speaker 1: quarterback position is that you've got two really good players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right now, you have two players that are

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Speaker 1: coming off of a year that still many questions exist about.

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Speaker 1: And that if, in my opinion, if you stand pad

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Speaker 1: or if you're satisfied with two good quarterbacks, then that

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Speaker 1: means that's going to keep you from finding a great one.

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Speaker 1: Which means that I'm not saying that that's his position.

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Speaker 1: His position, maybe that he wants to find a great

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Speaker 1: and maybe he's saying that just to you know, say, hey,

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Speaker 1: these are our guys for now. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're going to get another one. So but I think

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Speaker 1: that that position, the search has to still continue because

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Speaker 1: if the search ends, then you miss maybe another opportunity

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Speaker 1: at finding what will be the next Patrick Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: and you had that opportunity lost already. Could it be

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Speaker 1: the next Deshaun Watson or Tom Brady whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to criticize Gardner minshow because I

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Speaker 1: think he had a phenomenal season for any type of

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. But does that mean that that because he

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Speaker 1: had a good rookie season, which, by the way, how

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Speaker 1: many wins did did he get? Arback? Okay, six wins

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Speaker 1: is and I know he didn't start all the games,

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Speaker 1: but six wins is not what you're after. You're after

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Speaker 1: double digit wins. And I'm not saying that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying trying to like know of people us rookie give

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Speaker 1: just saying that, un tell you know that you have

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Speaker 1: a guy at that position. The search doesn't end, and

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Speaker 1: it cannot end. There's a lot of things to like

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Speaker 1: about him. His are you satisfied? So I will describe

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Speaker 1: it this way. We have one quarterback that I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure about that had a nice rookie season and has

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Speaker 1: some things I like and some things I really question,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's the guy I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. They could grow into it, maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Or um did I leave this season saying he is

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Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback? I did not, Okay, So that's one

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Speaker 1: of the guys in that room. The other guy. What

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Speaker 1: I know about him and Nick Foles is that in

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Speaker 1: he has been very inconsistent up and down, and he

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Speaker 1: did not play well last year, was injured again, so

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Speaker 1: continued not to be able to play sixteen games. So

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions there as well. Do

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Speaker 1: I think Nick Foles is a quote unquote franchise quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that can take me to the Super Bowl? Well, he's

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Speaker 1: done it in the backup role, but over a sixteen

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions there too. Not saying

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Speaker 1: and it is the most important position in this game,

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Speaker 1: and you have to have it right there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you have to have Patrick Mahomes, but you sure

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Speaker 1: And so with all that said, if I'm in this draft,

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Speaker 1: I'm evaluating the heck out of those quarterbacks. And if

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Speaker 1: or maybe the guy want Maybe it's Justin Herbert. I

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Speaker 1: haven't done any work on any of these guys. Maybe

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't remember last end, the last training camp.

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Speaker 1: There were questions we I think we talked about on

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Speaker 1: might need to get another backup court and Gardner and

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Speaker 1: and Nick Foles was ten times better than him, and

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Speaker 1: training game and let's not forget what happens again. Hold on, now,

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Speaker 1: it's not just people on this show, Jeff, you and

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a consensus that Gardner meants you was the

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Speaker 1: not a lot of questions across the tons of question

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Speaker 1: There was nobody tons of questions. When I say nobody,

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Speaker 1: I met nobody that said, boy, we got a guy,

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Speaker 1: you know has a chance to be a good backup.

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Speaker 1: That's what we thought. That's exactly what the thought was

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Speaker 1: at the end of trouble. The thought was that we

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Speaker 1: But one of the things we gotta be really careful

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Speaker 1: Gardner did what I actually he did more than I

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Speaker 1: expected him to. I mean more, and and that's the danger.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have a perception of a guy, is

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Speaker 1: Let's say this. If our perception of a guy coming

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Speaker 1: you know, three, okay, four maybe, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden he plays at a seven. You're like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, he's amazing. But if you had a perception

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Speaker 1: he plays down to an eight, not that good, but

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Speaker 1: he's still better than this. My point is perception changes everything.

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Speaker 1: Where are you start with a guy, and so you

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Speaker 1: have to be so careful. It's a small sample size.

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Speaker 1: Let this thing play out. Does Gardner Mintshew has qualities

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Speaker 1: question absolutely, let it play out. He's a young player.

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Speaker 1: I think it's way too early to think. I think

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Speaker 1: it's way too early, Jeff to say we have an

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Speaker 1: embarrassed to say we have an embarrassment of riches at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's why when you say let it play it out,

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Speaker 1: keep looking. Now, you might look at Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: We need to use that draft capital to build our roster.

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Speaker 1: And there's a good class next year, and there's a

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Speaker 1: in the Union, now the decision about his future, you

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00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: gotta I mean, to my opinion, you find a way

850
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: to keep a guy like that. And when you say

851
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: find a way because he said something to the Pro

852
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Bowl that he doesn't think he needs to take a discount. Look,

853
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: if he doesn't need, if he doesn't want to take

854
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: a discount, I'm gonna find a way to make it

855
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: work for one more year. Because but Jeff, I understand

856
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but the dollars and cents, you're over

857
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: the cap right now. You have to get under the

858
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: cap just to sign people for your draft. If nothing else,

859
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: tell mum you can't take them, um. And that's what's

860
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: apparently she's not listening. That's what my kids call my mom. Yeah,

861
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what they've called here. You know, here's

862
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: how you do it. Don't finish and so you like

863
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: you got you, I mean, you have to decide what

864
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it a lot of different places where

865
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: where where where's a cut that can be made that's

866
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: about equal money. I don't I think this is one

867
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: of the most He's well, I mean Darius Si yeah, okay,

868
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: but that's one. By the way you keep cutting all

869
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: these guys, you're creating more holes to fill. And we

870
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: talked about that last week, and and because Antonio made

871
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: mention of this and that you know, Dave Caldwell was

872
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: asked about or make comments about getting back into the

873
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Cap and it was I don't want to say it

874
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: was nonchalant, but he felt very confident that, you know,

875
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: they look, we can get another cap and be a player.

876
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: And and I was gonna, WHOA, how do you know?

877
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: That's tough decisions. And then if you're a player, then

878
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: that means you gotta be a player because you gotta

879
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: find somebody to take the place of the guys that

880
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: you just like go so you can get into the cab.

881
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, my opinion, you gotta find a way

882
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: to keep a guy like Klass and so you pay him.

883
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Think he's new nineteen this year? Is that right? J

884
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: he's fifteen? It's like two and a half million, I

885
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: think is uh is what is left in the in

886
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: the pro raded signing bonus. And then I think he's

887
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: pay out his fourteen or fifteen in real money some

888
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. But here's the reality. Did he

889
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: not play over the value of fifteen million a year?

890
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: Not last year, but the two years prior to that. Absolutely,

891
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, So if you're trying to find a little

892
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: bit of justification, for paying a guy like but for

893
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: some people dollars and cents. For some people, they're like,

894
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: we don't. And Jeff, you and I both have said

895
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: in fairness like class players always feel different, united the same.

896
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: We always think we have more in the tank than

897
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: um we might. Plays is a guy that I think

898
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: she'd be paying playing probably less naps than he did

899
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, absolutely, I totally agree with that. So

900
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: with that, you're gonna have a part time player you're

901
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: paying fifteen million plus. I get it. I want him

902
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: on the team too because of who he is, if

903
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: what he brings the locker room, his leadership is an

904
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: impact player. He is going if if Josh Allen last year, yes, yes,

905
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: if you had if you Okay, Josh Allen's a part

906
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: time player and he shouldn't be. He needs to be

907
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: a full time That's what this year and he will be,

908
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But that's the kind of role that you

909
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: envisioned for Collaistions. But let me ask you this. With

910
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: that role, Josh Allen had the numbers, he was impactful,

911
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: and I think the impact plays might have better numbers

912
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: if he played less snaps. What what is his number

913
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: for next year? Seventeen and change and it's a million

914
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: uh dead money. So find a way to go because

915
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: here's the thing that with that decision, it's not like

916
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: you're making that decision that's gonna hurt you and one

917
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: and you know what, Hey, I gotta win right now. Okay,

918
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask is there ever gonna win right now?

919
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: So you so you're saying cut I mean I mean

920
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: like darkness is gone, right, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah,

921
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's probably he's definitely gone. A J

922
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: Boyer gone. Okay, So that gets you that's a tough

923
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: tough spot to film, Okay, but that gets you a

924
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: probably you're probably thirty three under the cap with those two.

925
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: We say you need it for the rookie class marquis okay, um, yeah,

926
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: you get rid of normal. Yeah it's another hold of show.

927
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Look enough, okay, Now it's all because he says a

928
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: lot of dead probably looking at how much? How much is?

929
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: How much is the rookie class? Cast you what did

930
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: we say number is? And I can't remember what it was,

931
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: but you're still that that's a lot of money opening up? Yeah, well,

932
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I know, look more holes. Now you gotta be a

933
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: player you're getting rid of free agency, just got rid

934
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: of four starters on a team that was six or

935
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: six one team last year. M yeah, so what are

936
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: you saying. I'm saying it's tough. I agree. I mean,

937
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: you got you got your point of your point of

938
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: glass is fair. But the reality we're hoping he take

939
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of a discount. But I don't think

940
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: here's the reality. You're you're creating more holes for a

941
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: team that had six wins. But here's the reality, right,

942
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: you also had six wins with those guys. That's a

943
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: great point, very good point. So okay, yeah, it is

944
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: you're right, right, right right? I mean you didn't win

945
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: me again, what's the argument. There's no other argument. Let's

946
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: go around the national football shall we. I mean, you've

947
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: left a speechless That's how good of an argument. That was?

948
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: All right, you left Tony speechless. That's it's the Kansas

949
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, for the first time in fifty years, win

950
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy with a wild come back in the

951
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to win Super Bowl fifty four. Tony, you

952
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: were there, Um, what a performance it was in that

953
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So there's like seven minutes left it's third

954
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: and fifteen, and I'm not making this step. We're talking

955
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: in through the producer and everyone else, like what's forts

956
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: were gonna grab because at that point the chiefs had

957
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: done nothing at all and they were the pastors was

958
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: killing mahomes. He was not having a good night. I mean,

959
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: like offensive line for Kanpas City played terrible. Outside the

960
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: right tackle most resources was really good. He was good,

961
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: And so I was sitting there thinking, we started talking

962
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: about who're gonna get? Was getting beat like a drum

963
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: was getting beat like a drum if the doctor was

964
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 1: getting beat. We're talking about like when are we gonna

965
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: get Robert Solis is a historic defensive performance. I mean,

966
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then the third and fifteen changed

967
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: at all. And here's the thing. It's a post corner

968
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: by three kills the number two receiver and it's a

969
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: combination route that Robert saw. They worked on Friday and

970
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: Saturday outside Number one runs a deep end. It's cover

971
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: three post corner, and they made the call They're not

972
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna sit, They're not going to carry the deep end.

973
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna let it go in that corner has to

974
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: get depth for the post. For the post corner. He

975
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: bit on the dig in the post corner is wide open.

976
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: Then he's sitting there just waiting on the ball. He's

977
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: and so literally that play and they wrapped it, and

978
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: they wrapped it, and they wrapped it. If they if

979
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: the if the guy just doesn't take the cheese, take

980
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: debate and chase that in. He's back there and now

981
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: he may hit the dig, but it's not the big play.

982
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: And boy, that changed everything. That in the call. You know,

983
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: they score, it's a three point game. You're like, all right, here,

984
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: come to non didn't do much well, But forget that.

985
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: I agree with that. But the big thing is they

986
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: run the ball with Mosart first and they get five

987
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: yards and first down. It's second and five. This is

988
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: the second best rushing team in the NFL. Again, Kyle,

989
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: this is when I'm first down. Go run it again.

990
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, your third and two, third and one,

991
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: and and like you got the right where you want him,

992
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: drop out the pack, pass into Kyle's defense. You guys

993
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: wide open. He found him. Chris Jones went up and

994
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: deflected the ball. He is wide open guy. Oh yeah,

995
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: he did, he did. He missed. He missed the game

996
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: winner to Manuel Sanders on the open is there's no

997
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: safety Kittle a couple of times. Yeah, I mean Kiddle

998
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: is one of those guys that you can just stare

999
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: at him. He'll find a way to get on. So yeah,

1000
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: it was, but boy, I was it was a crazy game. Nuts.

1001
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Should they pay mahomes s a p paying like as

1002
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: much as they want pay him now because it cost

1003
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: more next year, that's right. Price price tag just keeps

1004
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: going up paying him. But he was not very good

1005
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: at the beginning. Now he's getting harassed. He was not well. No,

1006
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: look he wasn't getting pressed. He was getting harassed some

1007
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: but not that much. He's getting harassed and the pressure

1008
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: got to him and he started throwing. He started the

1009
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: clock started taking. He was like, oh my gosh. And

1010
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: then you're going, wait a minute, what are you doing

1011
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: that time? Dude? Slow down? But it was great. But

1012
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: he overcame it. That's what he did. Great players five

1013
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: and oh in his career. Uh being down ten points

1014
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: in it's incredible. Congratulations to Andy Reid. Congratulations to Andy

1015
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: heck heck after you know what he said to me.

1016
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: You know he took thirty years years. Andy Hack, long

1017
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: time player National football League, played for Chicago Bears and

1018
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: uh coached here, coach a few other places, and he's

1019
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: been with Andy Reid for quite some Congratulations to Chad Henny.

1020
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: Football season is not over, by the way. The Seattle

1021
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: Dragons and the DC Defenders, the l A Wildcats in

1022
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Roughnecks. That's Saturday to the Tampa Bay Vipers

1023
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: and the New York Guardians, and then the St. Louis

1024
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: battle Hawks in the Dallas Friend of Games. The XFL

1025
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: kicks off. Will you watch if I'm home Saturday or

1026
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Sunday and it's on, I got nothing going on, I'll

1027
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: probably check it out. Great, Joe, guys. We'll talk to

1028
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: you guys next week. Tony Boselli, Jeff Logman, J. P. Shatrick.

1029
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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network

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