1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day, bak you at podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the tewond of September. I'm Caroline Hepkitt in 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: London and. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Coming up today. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: The price of gold surpasses three thousand, five hundred dollars 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: an ounce to hit a new record high on US 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: rate cut. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Bets Nesley dismisses its CEO, saying he had an undisclosed 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: romantic relationship with a direct subordinate. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: Plus when artificial pressure becomes a real problem, how cheaper 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: lab made diamonds have helped to plunge Botswana into crisis. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Gold has had a record high, driven by expectations for 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: federal reserve rate cuts and concerns over the Central banks independence. 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: The price of the precious metal topped three thousand, five 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollars Announce as investors loaded up on. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: The safe haven asset. 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: The latest run comes after Fed char Jerome Pell cautiously 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: opened the door to a reduction due to a weakening 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: jobs market. Here's the view of BNP Paribas chief economist 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: Luigi Speranza, we think this down. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: There is no ma their life, and the FED will 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: letpier with sort of insurance if you want to get 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: a we I regarded the September kata, the liber macad 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 4: has been weakening, probably more than we had expected on 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: the base of original data. I think it's sillly so fatchier. 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Luigi Speranza speaking there as bond investors worry they could 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: be in for a rough September. Over the past decades, 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: debt maturing beyond ten years as typically last two percent 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: in the month, and with government set to boost borrowing, 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: long dated bonds are already trailing shorter maturities. 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Nesle has dismissed its CEO, Laur Fregs after only a year, 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: due to an undisclosed workplace affair. The abrupt change removes 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: the boss of the world's largest food company, who was 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: seen as a safe pair of hands. Bloomberg's James Walcock has. 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 5: More Nessler's board say an investigation found Freaks had an 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 5: undisclosed romantic relationship with a direct subordinate. The CEO, who 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 5: worked for the company for forty years, was only twelve 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: months in his role at the top and will not 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: receive an exit package. He's been contacted a comment by 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: Meteor l Lids, but hasn't yet responded to the announcement. 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: The food company has named Philip Navratil, who currently runs 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 5: its Espresso coffee brand, as his replacement. In London James 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 5: Walcock Blooder Radio Revolute has. 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Begun a secondary share sale at a seventy five billion 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: dollar valuation. Bloomberg understands that staff at the London based 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: digital bank will be able to sell as much of 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: twenty percent of their stakes for just over one three 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a share. The deal with Samanda status as 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: one of the most valuable FinTechs, with the latest valuation 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: up from forty five billion dollars last year. 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: A financial industry lobby group says that the European Union's 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: failure to break down barriers between national banking markets has 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: trapped hundreds of billions of euros of capital at big lenders. 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: Boomberg's Mihail Kuberla has more now. 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 6: The Association for Financial Markets in Europe says obstacles to 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: cross border banking services have trapped two hundred and twenty 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 6: five billion euros in low risk assets The Lobby group 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 6: warns EU banks faced stuffer requirements than peers in the 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 6: US or the UK, putting them at a competitive disadvantage. 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 6: European politicians are taking steps to forge what they call 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: a banking union, but progress has been slow. The AFME 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 6: says a lack of trust between national supervisors is preventing 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 6: changes to the rules and points in particular to the 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: cumbersome process in approving cross border mergers. In Brussels, Michael 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 6: Kubala Bloomberg. 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Radio Authority suspects Russian interfering was behind a GPS jamming 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: incident that disrupted a plane carrying the President of the 71 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: European Commissioner Slavanderline. A jet carrying the EU leader had 72 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to land in Bulgaria on Sunday using only paper maps 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: after electronic navigation stopped working. The RIX Brussels Bureau chiefs 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Zan Lynch says it's part of a repeated pattern. 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 7: A lot of the boat of countries have reported an 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 7: increase in this kind of activity. GPS jamming impacting maritime 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 7: and air travel across Europe by Russia so very much 78 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 7: an indication of the tensions that are out there at 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 7: the moment. In Europe as is war rages on in Ukraine. 80 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Lyn Chad's that Vonderline was touring the EU's eastern most 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: states on a campaign to build up military infrastructure. The 82 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Kremlin didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: Now Here in the UK, Prime Minister Kis Starmer announced 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: a series of personnel changes centered around his economic top team. 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: Former Bank of England Deputy Governor Minu Chafique has been 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: hired to be his chief economic advisor, and Treasury Minister 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Darren Jones was moved to run Starmer's office, But former 88 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies Paul Johnson criticized 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: the attempts to hit the reset button after a stuttering 90 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: first year. 91 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 8: More than a year into this government, they're still they're 92 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 8: only just working out what they might need some senior 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 8: economic expertise within Number ten, both at a political level 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 8: and at the advisor level. It's yet another example I 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 8: think of how you staggeringly unprepared this government was for government, 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 8: despite the fact that they essentially knew they were going 97 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 8: to win the election some considerable time out. 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: The economist Paul Johnson that are speaking two times Radio 99 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: polls suggest that Labor have seen a significant fall in 100 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: popularity in their first year in office, driven by issues 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: including the economy and migration. Meanwhile, yesterday the Homes Secretary 102 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: made a significant announcement on migration policy. 103 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: As Parliament returned. 104 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: The government will temporarily suspend the scheme that lets asylum 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: seekers bring family members to the UK. 106 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Premier League clubs have spent more than ever before in 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: a single transfer window this summer, surpassing three billion pounds. 108 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: Headlining the total. 109 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: As Alexander Esesak's record breaking move from Newcastle to Liverpool 110 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty five million pounds, making him 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: the most expensive player in British history. Speaking to Bloomberg 112 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: last month, trist From Leach, co head of European credit 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Apollo Global Management, told Bloomberg the sports presents interesting opportunities. 114 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 9: Certainly, it's an area we're involved in, we think is interesting, 115 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 9: we think represents compelling risk award and look it's part 116 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 9: of our We look at that as part of our 117 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 9: setback business, where you know, lending against receiverables from high 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 9: quality counterparties is something we're happy to do and we 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 9: think we can do in a competitive way. And look, 120 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 9: the sports world seems to be attracting more and more 121 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 9: money all the time. 122 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Apolo's trust from Leach speaking there, Player fees are often 123 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: paid in installments over several years, creating future cash flows 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: that clubs can monetize. These so called transfer receivables can 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: enable a relatively low cost source of raising debt. The 126 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Premier League's total transfer bill this year was more than 127 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: was spent by the Bundesliga, La Liga, Ligan and Seri 128 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: R clubs combined. 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: And those are our top stories for you this morning. 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: Looking at the markets, the all Con'try Weld index at 131 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: the moment in the red. The MSCIAS Pacific indexes also down. 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: Some modest gains elsewhere in Asia. For example, the Cosby 133 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: European defense stocks yesterday gained stop futures for Europe there 134 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: are in the red, so too are US stocks. We're back, 135 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: of course, after the Labor Day holiday yesterday. Yields on 136 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: treasuries also the cash trade reopening. In terms of ten 137 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: ure yields, we're up two basis points at four twenty five. 138 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: We've also got Euro Area inflation readings out today expect 139 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: just above two percent. Perhaps bloombig dollar spot indexes up 140 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: about a tenth of one percent. That's the markets right now. 141 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: In the moment, we'll bring you more on the rally 142 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: and gold prices, plus how Botswana has been hit by 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the rise and lab grown diamonds. But another story that 144 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: we've been reading this morning on how American schools are 145 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: using AI as the new term start. So, as Fahimi 146 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Varra has been writing for Bloomberg BusinessWeek, it is the 147 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: third school year since chat GBT first emerged. The initial 148 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: response from school authorities was to try to ban it, 149 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: although it does seem like attitudes are changing. She's spoken 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: to a whole range of educational experts, teachers, parents, pupils 151 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: for this piece as well, all with differing perspectives on 152 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: the use of AI, the potential applicability of it in 153 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the classroom, whether it can be a good thing if 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: controlled properly, or whether it's universally a bad thing. There's 155 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: no conclusion essentially, as the research that one accelerator at 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Stanford has been tracking as well, largely inconclusive as the 157 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: educational effects of it as well. But it is the 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: debate that's being had in schools and I'm sure in 159 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: households all over the world as well. 160 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's interesting the way that you put 161 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: it that it's the third year in existence. I mean, 162 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: when you think about school pupils, it every year is 163 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: so important and kind of cumulative. Look, the UK's having 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: this debate as well, right The government released new guidance 165 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: for schools over the summer about this. The guidance, interestingly though, 166 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: was aimed at teachers stevas So teachers can use AI 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: to help them with lesson planning, with marking and with 168 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: administrative tasks, but they need to use their professional judgment, 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: was the view of the UK government. They sort of 170 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: frame it as an opportunity. But also there's been kind 171 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: of quite a lot of chatter over the summer about 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: how do teachers make it clear to parents and how 173 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: AI is being used as pretty much everyone knows that 174 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: pupils and students are doing it. 175 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And I suppose how do you, I mean, 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: look at the technologies evolving so quickly as well, how 177 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: do you try to make the most of it without 178 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: necessarily shortcutting some of the key skills that people need 179 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: later in life. So I think it's an ongoing debate 180 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: that we'll be hearing plenty more about, but Behini Varru's 181 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: piece are really well worth reading for an insight into 182 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: how this debate is playing out in the US over 183 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: the use of AI in skills. 184 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Now, let's bring you more on our top market story 185 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: this morning. So the surge in the price of gold, 186 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: which has hit another record high, our economics were pulled a. 187 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: Katya Dmitrieva joins us for more on this. Good morning, Katya. 188 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: What is driving this latest rally in gold so huge reality? 189 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 10: I mean, it's really three things if you think about it. 190 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 10: The first being first and foremost is growing expectation by markets, 191 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 10: by economists that the FED is going to have to 192 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 10: cut interest rates this month. We're now in September, I 193 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 10: believe it or not. And also because you know, economic 194 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 10: activity is slowing and you have these potential changes at 195 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 10: the FED. And that's sort of the second reason. So 196 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 10: there's been a lot of risk, growing volatility because of 197 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 10: Trump's attacks on the FED, most recently of course going 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 10: after Governor Lisa Cook. She's taken him to court and 199 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 10: still in her position and it's sort of remaining there. 200 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 10: But this, you know, creates a lot of volatility. Gold 201 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 10: being a safe asset we've seen buying based on that. Finally, 202 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 10: and this is kind of a longer term trend, but 203 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 10: this idea of selling the US dollar, selling America, or 204 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 10: at least pivoting to other assets, you know, particularly safer assets, 205 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 10: and many countries, particularly emerging nations, have been buying gold 206 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 10: instead of US dollars, so that's really been keeping demand high. 207 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: And of course this comes after a huge run for 208 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: gold so far this year, up over thirty percent. Questions 209 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: over tariff, so what the fact that was going to 210 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: have as well? How much further could this go? 211 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 10: Well, we're now talking about four thousand dollars an ounce, 212 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 10: so we're about thirty five hundred right now, and you know, 213 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 10: we're seeing some analyst notes that are saying, well, four 214 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 10: thousand isn't actually out of the ordinary, and even through 215 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 10: year end, and that's kind of because of the recent 216 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 10: run up, because of the year to date run up, 217 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 10: and because a lot of these geoeconomic tensions and volatility 218 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 10: are not going away. I mean, even just this week 219 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 10: we saw this meeting between puts In and she and Mody, 220 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 10: and it really underscores just how much the global South 221 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 10: is going to continue to diversify away from the US 222 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 10: really come together, boosting trade agreements with one another, potentially 223 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 10: purchasing more gold, which is going to increase that pressure 224 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 10: on prices, So it doesn't look like it's going away 225 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 10: anytime soon. 226 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, of course five days job support is the next 227 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: key data point to watch in terms of those rate 228 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: cut expectations, and we also have some other data points 229 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: to look forward to before then. So what could be 230 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: the next catalyst for markets. 231 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 10: Well, it's really going to be the Friday job numbers. 232 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 10: I mean they're expecting economists are expecting right now about 233 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 10: seventy five thousand gain in August, which is about the 234 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 10: same as the prior month. So anything too far above 235 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 10: that would raise some questions potentially about cutting rates, but 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 10: anything below that would pretty much solidify rate cuts in 237 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 10: markets minds and investors' minds. But before then, we also 238 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 10: have some hints of that. Of course, we have the 239 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 10: ADP private payrolls numbers. We have weekly jobless claims. Those 240 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 10: are expected to come in about the same as the 241 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 10: prior week. Factory orders, which kind of gives you an 242 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 10: idea of the industrial side of things that's probably going 243 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 10: to be contracting again, but less than June and Jolts 244 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 10: lay off data, which is going to be lower in 245 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 10: July than the prior year over year. But really, you 246 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 10: know Friday Job's numbers, you really can't can't get more 247 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 10: important than that. 248 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, Thanks very much for your analysis. 249 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: That's our economics reporter Katie demin Trieva. 250 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: Stay with us. 251 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up after this. 252 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: Now to Botswana next, where the rise of lab grown 253 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: diamonds is robbing the country of revenue from an industry 254 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: that's made it one of the richest countries in Sub 255 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Saharan Africa. Our reporter Matthew Hill has been writing about 256 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: this and joins us now, Matthew, how has diamond mining 257 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: transformed Botswana. 258 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 11: Someth independence from the UK in nineteen sixty six. What 259 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 11: Swan has really used diamonds to develop its country and 260 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 11: it's been hold up as a real success story of 261 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 11: an African nation that has used its natural resource wealth 262 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 11: to develop its country, educate its people, bull infrastructure. 263 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: So what's changed then as we've seen a greater youth 264 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: or or kind of interest in lab grown diamond womans 265 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: from consumers as well. This transformation how was that played 266 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: out in Botswana. 267 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 11: So for decades the country's benefited from having this massive 268 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 11: endowment of diamonds. It's been the world's biggest producer of 269 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 11: the stones by value. And then after COVID, we saw 270 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 11: a spiking price of twenty twenty one and demand where 271 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 11: everyone was basically buying everything, including diamonds. But after that 272 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 11: there was a slowdown. There was a slump in demand 273 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 11: from countries like China, which caused vices to fall, and 274 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 11: some cutbacks from producers like Botswana. And then the real 275 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 11: challenge came along, which was, as you say, lab grown 276 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 11: diamonds where there were there was a big ramp up 277 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 11: in production of these zones. They started coming to the 278 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 11: market at increasingly cheap prices. One diamond minding company said 279 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 11: this year that they've basically been in free fall. So 280 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 11: you've seen less phenomenon in the US and China where 281 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 11: young buy especially gen Z buyers, are turning to lab 282 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 11: grown diamonds for engagement rings, which can cost one of 283 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 11: the price of a natural diamond. And I mean, you're 284 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 11: just talking about the record gold price. If you're a 285 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 11: young person buying an engagement ring and you are facing 286 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 11: significantly higher price for the gold that diamond is set in. 287 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 11: That's perhaps even more of an incentive to go for 288 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 11: something that costs far cheaper. 289 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, absolutely, that seems to be you know, the 290 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: rationale of some bars at least. 291 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: But then what does it mean overall? 292 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: For Botswana the population of just about two and a 293 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: half million people, This, as you've reported, means huge issues 294 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: for government finances for companies there. 295 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: How is the government responding exactly? 296 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 11: It is a really really difficult situation that they find 297 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 11: themselves in. For a bit of context, diamonds account for 298 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 11: about eighty percent of What'swana's exports, about one third of 299 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 11: government revenues, and in terms of the economy, that make 300 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 11: up for about twenty five percent of the total economy. 301 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 11: When you take a big chunk of that revenue away, 302 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 11: that introduces a crisis. The government is forecast to run 303 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 11: up a budget deficit of about eleven percent this year. 304 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 11: That's the highest in Africa. And if you take in 305 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 11: the context of what's one of being a shining example 306 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 11: generally speaking of how to manage resource wealth, well that's 307 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 11: quite a shocking statistic. The government's debt has nearly doubled 308 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 11: in the past three years to buy MFC's reaching forty 309 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 11: three percent of GDP this year, which is actually beyond 310 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 11: what the fiscal limits allow. So that also just shows 311 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 11: how stark the crisis is. 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