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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Wow, hello listeners from coast to coast.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the one podcast in everybody's ears.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I'm talking about STU Radio Labs. Wow. You

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Speaker 1: really wound yourself up there. Um. Yeah, sorry. I have

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Speaker 1: to believe in myself in order to do this podcast

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Speaker 1: every morning, which we do. I hate that every time

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Speaker 1: we start recording, I have to remind myself to believe

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Speaker 1: in myself, which is so not my default. No, And

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Speaker 1: it's tough because you put that labor on me. You

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Speaker 1: make me, make you believe in you, and that's not

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Speaker 1: my job. I would say that because your default is

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Speaker 1: making me feel so bad about myself that I have

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Speaker 1: to bring you back up. So we're at a neutral spot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not, you know, crying, Okay, I'm just honest

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Speaker 1: with you, George. If you can't handle some honest criticism,

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Speaker 1: you need to. Obviously I can't. No one can show

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Speaker 1: me a person, Show me a person who can handle

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Speaker 1: honest criticism, and I'll show you a literal sociopath. George.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the business. Get get a tough, get

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Speaker 1: a thicker skin. First of all, I've had incredible work

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Speaker 1: done and my skin is thicker than any gay in

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with honest criticism. The business is actually

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Speaker 1: about dishonest criticism. So when you get honest criticism, you're like,

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Speaker 1: who are you? You know? Uh, you know the philosopher. Uh. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do a little game. Okay. I'll give you like

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Speaker 1: industry honest criticism, and you give me industry honest criticism. Okay, okay. George.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we love you so much. Your voice

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Speaker 1: is so unique and so so beautiful, and obviously I

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Speaker 1: wanted to buy everything you were offering me, but then

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Speaker 1: my bosses are so fucking stupid and they wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: go for it. But definitely just keep trying. And I'm

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Speaker 1: a huge fan. Sam. We were so excited to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I have to say when you walked in, I said,

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Speaker 1: I immediately thought of that one bit, you know, the

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Speaker 1: U Kira and I said, you know the bit that

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Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, okay, so so Kira, we'll see you out.

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Speaker 1: You can't take the water. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming in. Thank you. Um that felt like a healthy exercise. Yeah. UM,

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Speaker 1: have to say. Our guest has it when we work together,

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Speaker 1: did a similar impression of feedback like this that I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if he wants to do on air. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're almost baiting him to do so. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: can't speak yet. If he would speak right now, the

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Speaker 1: level of anger that I would conjure up, I mean unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: All the work we have done to accept ourselves would

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Speaker 1: simply scream, Oh, I would do. You have to drown

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Speaker 1: out the noise, the noise being the voice of our

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Speaker 1: right now, because that would just be no, My god,

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Speaker 1: I slay, I go off. I literally am one of

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Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart, because guys, I slay too.

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Speaker 1: and let's meet again in like six months. And Kira,

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Speaker 1: really loudly now I have to. I'm really glad you

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Speaker 1: brought up um prejudice, not just against thick skin, but

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Speaker 1: Roselle day, it's it's aspirational. I think. I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: finally got into drag Race, it was like, oh, sure,

423
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Speaker 1: this is heaven. Like yeah, Like sometimes it's that, it's

424
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: that thing of like I mean, also it's like you know,

425
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: every like the office, it's like, you know what, it's

426
00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: actually good, like the time, you know what? You know

427
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Speaker 1: what really felt good to me. I was just at

428
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Speaker 1: home for a couple of weeks seeing my parents because

429
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Speaker 1: I who I hadn't seen since Christmas, if you can believe, so,

430
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: I just went back to see them on Long Island

431
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: and it felt amazing to just tell my dad I'm

432
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: gonna need this room to watch Housewives and he was like, okay,

433
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: And You've come a long way from that little boy

434
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: that voted to Invader Rock from from that little boy

435
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: who took one big meeting and then hid inside himself.

436
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm finally here. I'm finally back. I'm taking meetings again,

437
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: and I am kicking my dad out of rooms in

438
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: his own home so I can watch Lisa Rinna intimidate

439
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Denise Richards on television. You know there is something to that.

440
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: When I was home and I had to say to

441
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: my parents, like, actually, we were watching drag Race tonight,

442
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: it was like, oh right, yes, yes, mother, I do.

443
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: And she's like, I love that show. How lucky we

444
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: are to have parents who are so invested in our

445
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: lives unhappiness. I recently found out that I think, well,

446
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: I think this is my opinion of what happened. My

447
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: dad keeps revealing that he has seen many game movies,

448
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: and I think what happened was after I came out,

449
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: he just like wanted to educate himself and just literally

450
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: googled like game movies and like the other week he

451
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: referenced the movie Weekend, like the indie game movie that

452
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: includes like actual come on Someone's Chester back or something,

453
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, and he described it as one of

454
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: the better movies on the topic. I mean, I can't

455
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: help but agree. I The thing is, I also agree,

456
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: but phrase like that does crime, and your dad's going

457
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: to jail, jail. He's being carted away as we speak, police.

458
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: I would want to know is definitive ranking on film

459
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: and movies on the topic. I bet he appreciates broke.

460
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: He didn't like call me by your name. A lot

461
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: of gay people did it. But that's not gay, Matt, Well,

462
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: then why is he watching all these gay movies? He's

463
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: standing weekend, so it's actually one of the many meetings

464
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: has my dad taken? Okay, Matt, it is time for

465
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: our first segment in which it's called straight Shooters, and

466
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: we ask you a series of rapid fire questions. You

467
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: know how it works, so let's get into it. Actually,

468
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: is my favorite thing to do ever, is to just

469
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: be put on the spot and say things that probably

470
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: are wrong. Okay, Deborah Messing or Susan Surrandon, Susan Surrandon, okay.

471
00:27:51,680 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: Croissant croissant or croissant croissant, okay. A movie out, Mom's

472
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Letting Loose written by a man or A pop song

473
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: about female empowerment written by a Norwegian man. Pop song

474
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: about female in power I written by the Normwegian man Um.

475
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: A comedian promoting a show by saying I'll be slinging jokes,

476
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: or a comedian promoting a show by saying, blank City,

477
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I will be in you, Um, blank City, I'll be

478
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: in you. Oh No, Matt having seven almonds as a snack,

479
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: having a smoothie as a meal, or having a healthy

480
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: body image having a smoothism meal Um, dumpster fire or

481
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: garbage person dumpster fire, Sam, you will not believe this,

482
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: but literally one of my discarded ones that I couldn't

483
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: think of enough was wait, where is it He's about

484
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: to drag me? No one of his discarded ones? Okay,

485
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: it was using the phrase dumpster fire, using the phrase

486
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: said no one ever, miss using the phrase throwing shade.

487
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: And then I needed a last like funny woman. I

488
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't find it. Well, I'm gonna say said

489
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: no one ever, Ye brings said no one ever back. Okay,

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00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: My final one is Matt L G B T Q

491
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: or plus and be careful, Okay, listen to me very clearly.

492
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Ge okay, Matt my eyes, raven claw, huffle puff, flitherin

493
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: or Sigma nu or ravens comone Raven. Okay, you know,

494
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: actually this brings us to something that we did want

495
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: to talk abouts on the previous episode that I do

496
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: think it would be a fun um thing is that

497
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: we have all as gay men been to the View

498
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: as a joke. Yeah, have I told you like what?

499
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: And I don't wait, I think we have to tell

500
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: from this experience. I think I told you my I

501
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: definitely have told you my View story because it gets

502
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: very dark. But you should well, Matt Yours is on tape,

503
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: Mine is on table. Part of it is on tape.

504
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: So this this is something that came at a really

505
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: insane time because I went with Bowen Yang and Friend

506
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: of the Pod, and that's how he's he's actually primarily

507
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: known as being a friend of the Pod Stradio Lab.

508
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Secondarily he's on HBO Max's Aquafina is Nora from Queens

509
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: And then I don't I forget his other things. He

510
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: plays Aquafina, he plays Alcathina is Nora from It's actually

511
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang is Apafina is no the title of the

512
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: child on Comedy Central. Um. Okay, So we were like

513
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: having a week from Hell because we had both like

514
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: been up for the same job opportunity, which was the

515
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: show Saturday Night Live, and we found out that he

516
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: got it and I didn't, and so that was like

517
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: really weird. It was just like weird for our friendship.

518
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: It was weird for me because I was like happy

519
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: for him, but like devastated for myself because that was

520
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: still all the time I really like wanted to do that,

521
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: but um, we got this opportunity last minute to go

522
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: to the View because a producer on the show listens

523
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to our podcast and was like, oh, we know that

524
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Matt is the biggest fan of Kelly Clarkson and Kelly

525
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Clarkson is on the show today and I was like,

526
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: I said to Bowen, I was like, they're giving me

527
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: a plus one, Like it would be so fun to go,

528
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm having a hard time, like and

529
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: maybe we need to focus on something else, like, um,

530
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: let's just go. And he had he at that time

531
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: was being the best friend ever and was like yes,

532
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: like whatever you want to do because he knew how

533
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: sad I was. So we go to Kelly Clarkson on

534
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the View and they literally have like these seats for us,

535
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: like they're they're like kind of kind of taped off, like,

536
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: and they're in the second row, and then we're sitting

537
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, and it's it's the view, which

538
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: I ironically was there, but I do on ironically watch

539
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: sometimes and I say, well, whoop is she's really pissing

540
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: me off today and et cetera. Those are kind of

541
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: the things I'll say when I watch it on YouTube.

542
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: So we're there and the producers start sort of like

543
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: tittering around like we heard Kelly's biggest fantas here. We

544
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: heard Kelly's biggest fantas here, and something mine happen, and

545
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: it was like this whole thing, and then Kelly comes

546
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: out and does the interview and they sort of say, like,

547
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, there's a huge fan here that wants to

548
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: talk to you. And I'm thinking, like, if they come

549
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: over to me right now, I'm gonna have a meltdown

550
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: because I'm emotionally not in the place. And I've already

551
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to meet her three times and cried

552
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: thinking about it every time. Um literally, like I went

553
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: to do the Howard Stern after show when she was

554
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: on the guests as like a normal guest, and um,

555
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I was in the lobby and I went over. I

556
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: was walking over to go say hello to her and

557
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: her band, and I had be lined for the bathrooms

558
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: to and I could cry three tears and get myself

559
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: together because I had to go do the show. So

560
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: that's the kind of state of mind I am in

561
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: normally when it comes to her, and so at this

562
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: time was really fraught. But they go over to this

563
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: like other gay and he takes the mic and he

564
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: proceeds to say that he's lost ninety pounds listening to

565
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: her music and that every day she was on the

566
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: treadmill with him. Um, and I was sitting there like,

567
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, like and this, and we're like right

568
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: behind him, and so I don't know that we're on camera,

569
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: but we very much are. And so Bowen is next

570
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: to me and he's just like really supporting this kid,

571
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: like he's just like smiling, laughing, clapping, doing the most.

572
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: And then Kelly offers this kid tickets to her concert

573
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: and he kind of very like nonchalantly accept it, like yeah, sure,

574
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: like that would be so fun, like whatever. So then

575
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: the segment ends, we go and like I guess later

576
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: on in the day or the next day, that clip

577
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: appear on television, and it was just you can see

578
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: just like the abject sadness and disappointment in my face

579
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: while this kid is having this moment with my someone

580
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: who I've looked up to for such a long time,

581
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: and Bowen is just cheesing so hard, like he's just

582
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: like supporting this kid like I've never seen him support anyone.

583
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: He is one of the meanest people ever and he

584
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: is just giving everything to this kid. And so we

585
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: left it. It was just like true devastation. But I

586
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: will say this, Sonny looked amazing that day. And she

587
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: turned to the audience and we boh, and I said

588
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: at the same time in Unison, Sonny, you look amazing,

589
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: and she goes, and she she goes, thank you. You know,

590
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: whenever we're not filming, I don't even wear makeup. And

591
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: we were like, whoa really, she goes, It's true, I

592
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't wear makeup at all, and then they

593
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: went back to the show. That is an incredible tale,

594
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of like when I met Jeffrey Boyer Chapman and

595
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: my friend told him as a joke something along the

596
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: lines of your so hot, and then he replied, it's

597
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: always crazy when people tell me that because for me,

598
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm still that nerd from high school. No should I

599
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: actually drop No, Matt, it's all I literally remember this

600
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: as I was saying it. So you don't have to,

601
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: but it will be fun to do it. Okay, what

602
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: what you don't know this, Sam, I don't know if

603
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: I know. I went on two dates with Jeffrey Boyer

604
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Chapman in the year two thousand thirteen. Yeah, that is

605
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, And he pursued me at the restaurant

606
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: I was working at and it was so shocking because

607
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. He wasn't like as

608
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: gay famous as he is now. It was before Unreal.

609
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: It was before unreal. It was all. He was just

610
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: like a model from Vancouver and he was in like

611
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: some sci fi stuff. So he like was at this

612
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: restaurant and he was I fucking the shift out me

613
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, this guy is so hot. I

614
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever been hit on by a guy

615
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: this hot. Like it's weird. He was aggressively like being

616
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: presently like sort of like lescivious, and I was like, okay,

617
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: this is this is a kind of crazy. And then

618
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: after he was finished with his meal, he came over

619
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: to me with his two girlfriends and we're chatting me

620
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: up and he got my number and we went out

621
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: and we like we had two dates, and I remember

622
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: like something about it just wasn't right, and I ended up.

623
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: We did hook up l O L. But after that,

624
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: like I he emailed me because he like wasn't a text.

625
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I remember that was like a weird thing. He emailed me, Um,

626
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: I really want to come see your sketch comedy group

627
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: pop Roulette, which was the sketch comedy group I was

628
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: in on the time, which was me doing musical sketch comedy,

629
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: flopping around like a noodle on stage and like wailing

630
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: like two tracks. And I thought about him coming to

631
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: see me in that, and I got so terrified that

632
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: I like ghosted him. And about a month later and

633
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: he was the hottest person I had ever ever even

634
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: been involved with. About a month later he reached out

635
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, I left my scarf, which was

636
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the truly longest scarf you've ever seen anyone ever on

637
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: He's like, and I loved it it was and I

638
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: loved that he left it there. I was like, funk,

639
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: I got under scarf. He was like, I left my

640
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: scarf um at your apartment and I really need it back,

641
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: so can you bring it to the Broadway Lafayette train station.

642
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: At this time, I was like, yeah, sure. Usually when

643
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: someone leaves something behind, they just come pick it up,

644
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: but I'll go completely out of my way to give

645
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: us to you. It was torrential snow. It was like

646
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: so bad. It was like really really comically snowing that

647
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: day it was coming down, and I'm standing outside the

648
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Bobble Lafayette train station with his huge scarf, and he

649
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: comes by and I we do like a small talky handoff,

650
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: but and then he left because he I guess like

651
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: he I don't know what it was. But our chemistry

652
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: was always weird because I just didn't know how to

653
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: talk to someone like this. But years later he became

654
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: like gay famous for being on Unreal and RuPaul and

655
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: now he's like the bane of gay society from being

656
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: on Canada's drag Race. Because I have to tell you,

657
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: he's so bad. And I literally said to myself over

658
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: the past ten years, I was like, why would I

659
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: ever have ghosted Jeffrey Boyer Chapman. Why? And then I remembered, Oh,

660
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: his personality. Yeah, well this is what I'm saying. Imagine,

661
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: imagine someone telling you as a joke that you're hot,

662
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: and you earnestly replying, it's crazy when people tell me that,

663
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: because I'm still that nerd from high school. And he

664
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: said that with no like, without missing a beat, I

665
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: will say this, He's not a mean person. He's just

666
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: like he's just not in his body. Because maybe that

667
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: really is true, you know what I mean, Like he

668
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: says all these critiques on Canada's drug race, and I'm like,

669
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: what are you saying and how are you saying it?

670
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Like nothing seems natural at all. Yes, I think that

671
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: he is kind of saying words and sentences he has

672
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: heard before, but none of it is coming from a

673
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: coherent um subjectivity. Thank god him. No, he's he's doing

674
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: a rule Paul impression, but it's at for exact and

675
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: and so it's like it's you know what, just drop it,

676
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: just be with be yourself, be whoever that is. But

677
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: then I I sort of remember from my time with

678
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: him that that is kind of who he is. So yeah,

679
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fake per se. I think, you know,

680
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: I think he's someone who would benefit from voting for

681
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: a war. Yeah, it needs to be put in a

682
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: tough position for real. Yeah, yeah, that would really be helpful. Wait, George,

683
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: what's your view story? Okay? Um, I went sorry, I

684
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: just I couldn't. I couldn't keep that in anymore. I

685
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: have not said that at all, And I felt like

686
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: it was time because the the the discussion on him

687
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: as reached such a breaking point that I'm like, it's

688
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: so psycho to watch. The title of this app is

689
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna Bett. Rodgers goes public on his sorted relationship with

690
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Chapman. Like, I have to say, this was maybe

691
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: one of the like, this was one of the first

692
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: things I knew about you, weirdly, like we talked about

693
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: it when we weren't as looks. It was like right

694
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: when I had first moved to New York. Anyway, this

695
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: is one of the last things I knew about I know,

696
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: I was trying to like and that's the last thing

697
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: I'll ever learn about you. Yeah, that our time with

698
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I actually, I have a I have a

699
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I live right on a cliff and I'm walking right

700
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: off and after that, I don't want to deal with

701
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the fallout from that story the people of living on

702
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: a cliff as you can just walk right off whenever

703
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: you're ready to go. Yeah, and that's a really good

704
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: way to go to It's it's majestic. It's the GE's

705
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: the gayest thing you could do. Yes, I mean as

706
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: York when said, uh, you know that song where she's

707
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: on a cliff? Yes, do you know what I'm talking about?

708
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Where she's like each minding, I throw things off. See,

709
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: you would think I'm a York gay, but I'm actually not. Okay.

710
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: But there's literally a song where she's like, you say

711
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna gay, you say it's gonna make him know

712
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: this song thank you is this helping? She's on a

713
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: cliff in the song, so the song is about she

714
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: goes cliff. Episode after episode, George bullies me. He belittles me,

715
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: He tells me I'm nothing, and quoting York is bullying.

716
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: I just want to say something. I just want to

717
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: say that they're on this podcast George is the Bowen

718
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: and I'm the same, and you're the me, and we

719
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: we get bullied, Sam. We get bullied because because they

720
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: say that we're not as culturally smart or say yes,

721
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: well you were very condescending to him on the episode

722
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: where he did not know that Media was first to

723
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: play and he thought it was just a media, Tyler

724
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Perry's Media. He did not know that Rose Byrne and

725
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Bobby Kinna Valley were doing the classic play. Media well

726
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: identified with that from yeah, so you're right, no, it's

727
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: it's yeah, you'd listen our classist. In all fairness, as

728
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: I have said publicly and in fact, Media was literally

729
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: the last play I saw before Quarantine happened. As I

730
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: said publicly, it would have been better if it was

731
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's Media. It was not a good production. We

732
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: all agree with you that it's not a good production.

733
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: It is classist, your classist. Okay, let me tell my

734
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: view story tell okay. So I went with, So, I

735
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: have a friend who's a furniture she makes furniture, and

736
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: so she needs like yeah, she's ad it um. She

737
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: for a while would always watch the view while at

738
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: her wood shot because she needed something to kind of

739
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: st um my list hut, George classes um is exemplified

740
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: more and more by the second me saying my Matt's

741
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: like she needed something to challenge her. Yes, for sure,

742
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: so she and at the time she was living in Maine,

743
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: so she visited New York. One of the things she

744
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: wanted to do was go to the View and I

745
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, fun whatever we went. We didn't know

746
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: who the guest was going to be. The warm up

747
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: comic comes out and, after plugging his upcoming dates in Connecticut, says,

748
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: the guest is none other than Newt Gingrich, and the

749
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: second guest is a performance from Shrek the Musical. So

750
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: the two things that got the musical and Newt Gingrich.

751
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: So then the warm up comic is saying that we

752
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: have to practice clapping for the guest. So he says,

753
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: we've all seen it. He's hot, right, Oh, I could

754
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: see you think. No, I don't think, so, okay, keep going.

755
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Had we had a female set up comic, coop, I

756
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: can only describe as um mom of someone else who

757
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: has the same bus stop as you. Guess what you're

758
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: ruining the view story. Okay, So, so we had to

759
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: practice clapping, So he said, okay, when I say new Gingridge,

760
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: everyone claps and I did not. I mean, you have

761
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: to understand, this was twenty not that now. I would

762
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: clap for new King. What do I was like, you know,

763
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: now it's all water under the bridge. I clapped for nude,

764
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: but this was like and like, really the sting of

765
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: the election had not in any way were not um.

766
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: So he said, you know, new Gingridge, and then everyone

767
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: clapped and I didn't clap, but I wasn't doing it provocatively.

768
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, hopefully no one will notice.

769
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm I refused to clap for new Gingridge, and of

770
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: course he singles me out and he's like, dude, we

771
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: don't all agree with him, but you have to clap.

772
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry, I really don't. I'm

773
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: not going to do it. And then he like started

774
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: making fun of me and was like I said something

775
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: along the lines of like called me like a Warby

776
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Parker model to make fun of me because I was

777
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: wearing like, you know, glasses, what a bum, and truly

778
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: like ultimately made me clap because there was no he

779
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: wasn't going to move on until I clapped. Well that's

780
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: really disappointing. Held that show hostage. That's so disappointing. Well,

781
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, for in my defense, I didn't clap when

782
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: new Ingridge actually came out, and only did it for

783
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: the rehearsal when I was being like reprimanded. So anyway,

784
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: he comes out, they do a whole interview. It's literally

785
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: like Megan mccam being like, is so you're like a

786
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: father to me, you know that, whatever you're like, but

787
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: not like my father, John McKay. And so they did that.

788
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: Then Shrek the Musical happened. No, wait, did I say

789
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: Shrek the musical? It was spongebobk better. But all right,

790
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: we'll issue. Uh, you don't think SpongeBob the music. I

791
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: guess Shrek was better, but Shrek SpongeBob was worse as

792
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: a musical though, right, yeah, but Trek to me, is

793
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: is funnier to think performed with the view. I guess.

794
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, you know what I mean. Did

795
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: you know this guy who played SpongeBob is a hot

796
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: gay guy? Yeah? For sure. Well they're all okay, Well anyway, um,

797
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: well they're either hot guys are hot straight guys who

798
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: like crush the puss, yes, or hot gay guys who

799
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: crushed the puss. So then come on revolution. Two other

800
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: things happen by the Found Dead study it sucking marred

801
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: beyond comprehension. Wait, okay, there's ready to tell the part

802
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: of the story. There's trauma to the head called smart

803
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: hot girl and glasses because we need someone to bend

804
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: over and say, what happened to you? Prince girl. Let's

805
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: get some fucking free forensic people in here because we

806
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: need magicians on the George. Okay, so they say the

807
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: warm up comics as during a commercial break, we have

808
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a super few. I heard we have a view super

809
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: fan in the crowd, and it was this like skinny

810
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: little maybe like twelve year old gay boy who had

811
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: come from like I want to say, Indiana with his

812
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: mom to see the View and he watches it every

813
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: morning and like, is you know if you super fans?

814
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: So he goes, what's your name? And then the kid

815
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: got so nervous that he just started crying, like before

816
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: even saying his name. Like this little scrawny little kid

817
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: that was clearly like this was his one reprieve from

818
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: a lifetime of bullying was watching the View every morning.

819
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: And so then um, it was revealed that Megan is

820
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: his favorite, and they brought him into the onto the

821
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: stage and Megan, I have to say, was the only

822
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: one who gave him any kind of affection, like all

823
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: the other women could not be bothered, and Megan gave

824
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: him a big hug, which was also depressing on its own. Anyway,

825
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: all of this is to say I then went home, uh,

826
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: and I was living with a boyfriend at the time,

827
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: and he asked me how it was, and I started

828
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: describing all of these things. And meanwhile, I had in

829
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the beginning found it very like kind of sweet and

830
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: nice to see like a diverse array of like older

831
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: women being very excited to be at the view. I

832
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: was like, the crowd was actually very like cute and

833
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, it inspiring and unlike say going to Disneyland

834
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: or something, no offense, Matt, And so then that's that

835
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: it didn't need to say that. So then I'm describing

836
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: this whole day. And so then I say the phrase

837
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: I say those women deserved better and start to cry.

838
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I literally make myself tear up by

839
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 1: saying those women deserve better. And then I'm like, in tears, Wow,

840
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: what do you mean like they deserve better? I mean

841
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: like the fact that I was the fact that what

842
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: they got was newt gingrich when these are like women

843
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: that were like ready to have fun and maybe see

844
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: you know Kelly Rowland promote her new cookbook. I was

845
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: going to say, Kerry Washington, Yeah yeah, yeah, well, um

846
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: now someone critic, but do you know what I mean?

847
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: It's I was just so heartbroken that like that is

848
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: what they got during their one trip to New York

849
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: City where they wanted to go to the View, they

850
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: got Newt Gingridge. I did. I was able to say

851
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: no to being handed New Gingridge's book at the end.

852
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: That's really brave. Thank you. They were like, do you

853
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: want one? Do you want one? I was like noah,

854
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I kept walking. Think it's great that you six held

855
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: onto your ideals. Huh yeah, I was exactly six. That's

856
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: good and that's actually as much percent as as you

857
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: can be expected. Yeah, well whatever. I was gonna say

858
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: something about the popular vote, but literally shoot me in

859
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: the head. We can you can't have that arranged, Sam,

860
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: what was your experience at the View? Okay, so when

861
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: I went to the View? Um, I have two tales.

862
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: They're both brief, so in they both happened in the

863
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: in between sections when like sometimes the cast will like

864
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: that's where the real magic happens in the audience, and uh,

865
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: Raven Simone was there, of course, and uh, this girl

866
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: stood up and she was like, I'm an aspiring actress.

867
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: I really want to make it in Hollywood. Um, do

868
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: you have any advice on getting into the industry? And

869
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Raven goes, yeah, I've got some advice, don't that's it.

870
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: And so she she just like coldly said don't do it,

871
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: said don't, and like all of them, seems like they

872
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: were in an awful mood on this day, she just

873
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: said don't. And then she was like, I mean, just

874
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: like audition and stuff and eventually it'll work out. Great,

875
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: great idea, but Raven Simon has been famous since she

876
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: was eighteen months truly. Then the worst one is whoopee

877
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: took a question and it was this woman and she

878
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: was like, my, like best friend was a huge fan

879
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: of you. He watched your One woman show every single

880
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: day while he was in the hospital dying of AIDS.

881
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: You meant so much to him, and that show meant

882
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: so much to him, and it's just amazing that I

883
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: get to see you, and I'm so happy that I

884
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: can tell you how much you meant to him. And

885
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: she just goes, yeah, a lot of people like that show.

886
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh my God, this actually reminds me of something that

887
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: she did when we were there, which was they didn't

888
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: they did a dance contest with the audience. Did they

889
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: do this for you guys? They did? Like and like

890
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: they were all supposed to be the judges, like and fine,

891
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: figure out who one? And Sonny was the only one

892
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: who was giving it any attention. And she was like,

893
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I like the woman over there, I thought she was

894
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: good energy. And the woman, the woman doing the warm

895
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: up that was like running the once competition goes to

896
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: Whoopian goes, who what did you think? And WHOOPI goes,

897
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about this, I mean, ununbelievable

898
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: bone and I turned to sand. That's absolutely cruel. Every

899
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: day person needs to go to the view. It's it's

900
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: it's birthrate. It's insane. It is birthrate for gaysay birthright? Yeah,

901
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: that is that. But are your were your parents like

902
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: morning show people? My my parents to this day will

903
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: watch the Today Show every single day like they're like

904
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: in Today's show house and not even the scandal like

905
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: deterred them from it. Like we were. We were like

906
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: a Today Show family growing up, America's first family k

907
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: In that man and that still to this day they

908
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: are watching Savannah and Hoda and they feel that they

909
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: know Hoda. Well. I feel that way as well. Yeah,

910
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: my parents also, I was raised on that as well.

911
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: My parents are not morning show people. Um. When we

912
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: lived in the States, still they would watch late nights.

913
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: My dad liked Jay Leno. Embarrassingly, he likes Jay Leno

914
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: in the movie Weekend. First of how dads can grow, like,

915
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: you can't ask for much better than I mean, can

916
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: you imagine going from from one to the other? Uh Leno?

917
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I think it was the only one.

918
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew that there were other options.

919
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: I think he was just like enamored with the concept

920
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: of late night and he was like, that's the one

921
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna brush over. Matt's joke. What did you say?

922
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. Can you imagine going between jay Letto Weko? Yeah,

923
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: what I'm jacking off? Come a little bit to Mr Leno?

924
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: Then this Weekend? J oh my god, Sam, do you

925
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: like Jay Leno? Yeah? You do? Come on, yeah, that's

926
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of your type. It is Sam's type. Wait, who okay, um,

927
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: are you gonna ask where his contemporaries like Leno Letterman,

928
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: Craig Killborn, and then like fucking what's his name? The

929
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: guy who was the British Yeah, Conan and then the

930
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: British guy. Um, god, this is embarrassing for him, not

931
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: Craig Ferguson. Yeah, for Craig Ferguson. Oh, he's like Scottish whatever,

932
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: he's europe Yeah, he's Europe's definitely European. Right, here's an

933
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: actually really good question that's going to satiate us and

934
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: the listeners. Wait before you ask it, do we want

935
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: to at least introduce the topics so it's in the

936
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: air and then we can keep talking about whatever. George

937
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: just said to you. George's looked at you and he said,

938
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: this is my podcast, bitch, I respect my damn podcast.

939
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: It's the hardest I've gotten the whole app. It's when

940
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: you've been hard the whole app and now it's just

941
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: like concerning Lee hard. Yeah. Now I'm so hard that

942
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: it hurts. It hurts my penis, my pp hurting. I

943
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: think one im my, I am. My interest is peaked

944
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: to here. Matt's a big question, and I think we

945
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: should get to the topic. So I don't know it

946
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: to do. Matt. Do you remember when in our group

947
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: chat I said I'm going to kick your ass and

948
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: then you replied, I just got a little hard I did.

949
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: I like when George gets rough with me. I like

950
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: when he gets like a little superior with me and

951
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: a little rough with me. I think it's actually really good. Yeah, no,

952
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: I like it too. Okay, Matt, what's this question? I

953
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: actually do need to know the question is, and it

954
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: can be really short so we can get to the topic.

955
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: It can it can sort of like the straight shooter

956
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: of it all? Um, which late night host current? Would

957
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: you bang? Would you like to bang the most? Here

958
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: you go, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Uh, yes,

959
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: for me, it's for me, I know. So here's the thing.

960
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: I guess Oliver too, and Jameson and Cordon of course. Yeah.

961
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: For Sam, here's what I'll say. The obvious answer is

962
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: obviously Seth Myers. Yeah it is. I weirdly am going

963
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: to go Colbert, whoa, here's okay? And I know you guys,

964
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: Gordon's second place number one? Matt, are you so shocked

965
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: that you can't move? Because come from there literally frozen time.

966
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: I just started watching Strangers with Candy for the first time,

967
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: and in it, he literally it's played for laughs that

968
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: Colbert and the our teacher are gay together. But it's

969
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: hot because I play it like real, like sexy. Yeah,

970
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: and it's like hot, and it made me be attractive

971
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: to Stephen Colbert mm hmm. Yeah. For me, it's definitely

972
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: definitely seth Meyers because I actually think that bringing him

973
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: home to my parents would be the biggest achievement of

974
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: my life. Like, this is this is my husband, this

975
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: is my fiance, This is the smartest man in the

976
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: world who has um for me a lot of sex

977
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: appeal and he's funny. Matt, I need to tell you

978
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: you need to stop thinking about what your parents will

979
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: like and your romantic and sexual partners. You need to

980
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: think about what you like. This is This is a game.

981
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 1: This is a game of carnal. Want forgotten to see

982
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: you're forgetting thinking of your parents approval. So right, You're

983
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: so right. When you're fantasizing about fucking a late night host,

984
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: you can't think about your parents. You're right, and I

985
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: have to remind myself of that. So with that being said,

986
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: um uh, it's still Seth Myers because he's the one

987
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: I believe keeps his butt hole cleanest. Here's what I'll

988
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: say about it is that, even though I just went

989
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: on a whole thing about Stephen Colbert, if push comes

990
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: to shove and they both showed up, I would fux

991
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Seth Myers. You definitely would. He'd be better conversation, to

992
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: be less self involved. Here's really Yeah, I guess you

993
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: both immediately assumed James Cordon and I want to say

994
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: he's number two and number one is Jimmy Kimmel Man

995
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Show era. Yeah, so problematic Attitudes era, Jimmy Kimmel, Yes, yes,

996
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: Wrongjimmy kim not trying on TV because they put his

997
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: baby back together, being bad, they put his baby back together.

998
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: I also do think Trevor Noah is but I can't.

999
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, especially now in quarantine. He's looking fucking really good. Yeah,

1000
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: he's looking great. He's I I think he's so hot.

1001
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: I unfortunately don't think he's funny at all. As the

1002
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: comedy show. Yeah, isn't it such a revolution when people

1003
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: who have nothing to do with comedy really well, I

1004
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: guess he would call himself a stand up so that's

1005
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: not fair. But when not funny people host prestige comedy shows,

1006
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a revolution. Speaking of that, someone who

1007
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: show recently got canceled, who is actually hotter than all

1008
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: these people, as Hasan Manaj. Oh yeah, did you ever

1009
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: meet Hasan Manaj? No? But I did submit to work

1010
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna show twice. You were hinting at that. I was like, wait,

1011
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: did you guys go on a date like Jeffrey Blayer,

1012
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: Chapman and Hassan? Oh? My god? Did well? I can't

1013
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: even say hot. Sun is like very straight, but I

1014
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: met him when Bowen and I hosted Podma Lakshmi um

1015
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: uh like show at the Bellhouse that she did what

1016
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: a sentence? Yea. The fact that that was a real

1017
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: thing was so insane. That's how you know we were

1018
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: flying too close to the side We deserved the pandemic.

1019
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I mean, what was there going to

1020
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: be another show after comedy shows? At the Comedy Show

1021
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: When Chris Rock dropped into Podma's show at the Bell

1022
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: House hosted by two stupid faggots Matt Rogers and Bowen

1023
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: Yang Like, it's that doesn't make any sense, but anyway, um,

1024
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: that's why people got sick in many ways, you caused it? Yeah,

1025
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: that was we were all patient zero there just ually

1026
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: it was you're the Gwyneth Paltrow's of the contagion. That's

1027
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: the second title of the How Matt Caused COVID. They were, Matt,

1028
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to get more clicks. I mean, should we

1029
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: say the topic? Yeah, Matt, why don't you go ahead

1030
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: and tell us the topic? The topic is sheds and garages. Great,

1031
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: we have approximately three and a half minutes. That makes

1032
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: me sad, actually because I'm having so much fun. No,

1033
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. We actually I have no heart out. But

1034
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: but Matt, uh, Matt, Yeah, I want to know why

1035
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: you chose this topic. Well, I chose this topic because me,

1036
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: as a gay child, would have been lost in a

1037
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: shed or a garage anyway, you know what I mean, Like,

1038
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: that's not where we thrive. Like settings that smell like gasoline,

1039
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: that have many good tools in them. Would that are

1040
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: made of wood, um, that are held up by sticks,

1041
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: that have sort of sawdust everywhere, and um you're expected

1042
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: to go into this shed and get your dad a

1043
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: specific kind of screw wrench, what have you. Meanwhile, there's

1044
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: like ten of all of them, and they all are

1045
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: like slightly different sizes and slightly different types, and straight

1046
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: men intrinsically know what kind of screw or wrench or

1047
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: whatever tool they need. But me, as a gay child

1048
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: going in there, I knew that it was so much

1049
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 1: more than me going into the shed and being able

1050
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: to help my father by getting the right tool. It

1051
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: was so much more than what he needed to do

1052
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: in that moment. It was a test on my masculinity

1053
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: and whether or not I was going to be good

1054
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: enough for him, and also adding to my specific disease here,

1055
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: and being gay is of course a vicious disease that

1056
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: we get fighting every day. We're all fighting it every day,

1057
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: and um, it's a it's a silent battle. But I'm

1058
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: here to sort of like silent I'm hear me roar.

1059
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: I believe it was Katy Perry who said, and I'm

1060
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: also smile out today. Um, but I'm also color blind.

1061
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: So this was like a real sort of a virus,

1062
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: if you will, my body attacking itself from the inside,

1063
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: like making me unable to carry out these tasks for

1064
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: my dad. And I'll just never forget the abject terror

1065
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: that was going into sheds and garages, being instructed to

1066
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: do so by my father who needed something, and returning

1067
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: to him either with the wrong thing or with nothing

1068
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: at all, tears in my eyes, not really understanding that

1069
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: I was gay or color blind, just thought I was

1070
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: stupid and not a man, and the defeat and disappointment

1071
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: in his face. And he has since come a long way.

1072
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: He's not watching Weekend, but he is like leaving the

1073
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: room so I can watch housewives. Um. But the way

1074
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: that that felt was so defining and straight and like

1075
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: oppressive to me that I'll never forget it. It's interesting

1076
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: that you, um, you juxtaposed being gay and being stupid

1077
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: and not a man, because in my mind those are

1078
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: the same, right. So that's when I found that out. Yes,

1079
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: this is when, this is when the confirmation came. Yeah, God,

1080
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: it is funny for your body to be like, oh no,

1081
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: he's gay. We have to do something. We can't see

1082
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: color at all. Yeah. I think it was a wrong

1083
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: It was like a trauma response. I thought he was

1084
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, so you know his dad is going

1085
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: to make him go like mow the lawn, and this

1086
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: is another thing. He'd make me clean up the dog

1087
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: poop in the yard. But dog poop is famously brown,

1088
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: and grass is famously green. And I have a color blindness,

1089
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: which is red green, which is colors like that that

1090
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: are really close together, they completely blend and I can't

1091
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 1: see at all. So I would get like a six

1092
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: dollar allowance a week when I was little, and he

1093
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: said for every piece of poop that he found that

1094
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: I didn't find, he would take off fifty cents for

1095
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: my allowance. And there was a time when my dog

1096
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: just apparently had like a ship fest and he found

1097
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: twelve that I didn't find, and I thought I had

1098
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: done a great job. So he ended that like session

1099
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: of humiliation by saying, now you owe me money, and

1100
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: he went into his into the house. My dad was like,

1101
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: I think, not happy about the fact that I was

1102
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: gay and knew it intrinsically, and he was really struggling

1103
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: with that internally. And I think now his like about

1104
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: face into progressivism and like he's watching MSNBC all the time,

1105
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: which is whatever, But um, his like hatred of Trump

1106
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: and obsessively supporting me and the things I do is

1107
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: a response to the fact that he knows he was

1108
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: cruel in those situations. Yeah. Also, Matt, I feel like

1109
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: we had very similar upbringings, like probably yeah. Also I'm

1110
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: red green color deficient. I think maybe you have a

1111
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: more intense version of it. You'd sad deficiency. Mine is

1112
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: a blindness, um so. And I also have vis I

1113
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: have vie the memories of being in that shed and

1114
01:04:54,320 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: being like, oh, like what do I do? Um my,

1115
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: I'd said the difference. My parents did kind of find

1116
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: it funny. They thought it was funny that I was

1117
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: like I could play it all mores like forgetful and

1118
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: um like spacey rather than paggy. Yeah yeah, yeah, see

1119
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I was unable to do that. I was like crying

1120
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: by the time I got back my There were I

1121
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: my dad was not hyper masculine in any way, who

1122
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: was very kind of like nerdy, I would say, and

1123
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: like the things he tried to do with me were

1124
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: like tennis, which is like gay m um. But there

1125
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: were certain things that you don't like think of at

1126
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: the time, like I have a very distinct memory of

1127
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: I loved to smell candles in a store, like just

1128
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: go from candle to candles, dude, Actually I love that. Again,

1129
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: I there's nothing and I didn't have any concept of

1130
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: like quality. You know this, I was a child, so

1131
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: like for me, a Yankee candle store where different than

1132
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, and I at this point I can't

1133
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: even remember if it was my mom or my dad,

1134
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: but one of them was like something along the lines

1135
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: of like it's don't smell that many candles, but it

1136
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: was clearly like, don't be gay. Don't be gay in

1137
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: the mall. Okay, all you want at home, but don't

1138
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: be gay in this mall. Right now, you ever flashback

1139
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: to like specifically explicitly gay moments and like catching you

1140
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: remember one time I had my walkman on and I

1141
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: was singing full out in the passenger seat while my

1142
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: dad was driving us to say Stadium to see the Mets.

1143
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: I was singing Britney Spears as Oops I did it

1144
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: again album full out and about to track nine ten

1145
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: like I think after don't let me be the last

1146
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: to know. He literally was like, if you have to

1147
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: stop now, that's enough. And I can't believe I ever

1148
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: was so innocent as to not be self conscious about that.

1149
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: But wow, then all days when you can just imagine

1150
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: not being completely torn down every time you express them individuality,

1151
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: I was absolutely obsessed with disco, like I got like,

1152
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: I kept getting like disco c ds for like my

1153
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: birthday and Christmas, and I was like, this is my

1154
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: fucking music. I couldn't get enough of the stuff. Weirdly,

1155
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess my parents are just like, he's unique,

1156
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: but they didn't seem to care. But it was bizarre. Yeah,

1157
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: my parents never thought of my tastes as a red

1158
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: flag because they were kind of like, oh, it's all American,

1159
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: like if I'm listening to Pink Sundest Dude, Like it

1160
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: was just the accent because you know, you know, being

1161
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: Greek sometimes I don't know if those American subtleties are

1162
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: too hard, but you really hit the accent on Misunderstood.

1163
01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: It's miss underst Dude, It's understood. Yeah, it's um. One

1164
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: of the finest albums that I remember distinctly, A road

1165
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: trip or my albums that I liked the best were

1166
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Misundes Dude and The Eminem Show. See. And here's the

1167
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: problem with culture at that time, which is that we

1168
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 1: were forced to, as gay kids, listen to and pretend

1169
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: to really enjoy and sometimes even subconsciously really enjoy The

1170
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: Eminem Show, which I remember I bought that album because

1171
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to, and I was looking

1172
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: through the album art and it's basically him having murdered

1173
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: the crowd that came to see him, and I was

1174
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: so upset by it. I was like I remember like

1175
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: looking at it and being like, this is so violent

1176
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: and ugly and mean, and I'm too young to like

1177
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: understand the symbolism here, which is like obviously like a

1178
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: very first thought which we can now stay looking back

1179
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: railing against fame and the attention he was getting in

1180
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 1: the sort of like hatred of his own success, so

1181
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: fucking annoying. Yeah, like wow, are you saying Gaga copied Eminem?

1182
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's clearly a huge influence on Cole. I

1183
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 1: do think that, like early experiences of like seeing violent

1184
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: imagery stick with you so much. Like um, when I

1185
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: was at this point, we were back in Greece, or

1186
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: maybe it was a summer that we were visiting Greece,

1187
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: but there there was a year when Turkey one Eurovision

1188
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: and obviously Greek people are very uh, you know, Greece

1189
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: and Turkey are races against one another, and so there

1190
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 1: was a big huh. I didn't know that welcome to

1191
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: world history one on one with George. Yeah. Something, I'm

1192
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: in damn school. She shall we get like grand degree.

1193
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me clock into class. Yeah, make sure

1194
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: I get my paycheck from this class. Yeah, in a

1195
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: perfect world. So the winner of your vision was this

1196
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: woman named sartab Erna and her song was called every

1197
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: Way that I Can, and the lyrics were every way

1198
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: that I Can, I'll try to make you love me

1199
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: again and um. Then it became kind of like a

1200
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: talking point on Greek morning shows that she has a

1201
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: history as a Satanist um because they found an album

1202
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: of hers where like there was an image of a

1203
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: baby crying, and they decided that that meant it was

1204
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: like an image of a baby like being killed. And

1205
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: then there were all these if you literally like search

1206
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: her name in satanist there were all these theories where

1207
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: it's like she was doing like Illuminati symbols during her

1208
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: performance and all this stuff. And I had never heard

1209
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 1: of the concept of Satanism before, and hearing that there

1210
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: were people that worshiped satan was so crazy and violent

1211
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: to me that I had like nightmares about it for

1212
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, I mean, it's not um something that

1213
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: a child, is you know, really going to be used

1214
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: to hearing? And I was just wanting to watch a

1215
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: pop performance in Eurovision. I wasn't ready to be introduced

1216
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: to Satanism. No. Oh, they that was just like a rumor.

1217
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's because of like racism. Oh huh,

1218
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I I didn't understand it at the time.

1219
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I wasn't that young. I was also

1220
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: neither Didday. It was Gueral Vision and so they probably

1221
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: just were like just a costume thud, and they accent.

1222
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm actually a person of Greek descent that cannot do

1223
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: a Greek accent. I am either. It always turns out

1224
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: Indian well, which is really and don't try it because

1225
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: I won't. I wasn't. You don't have to tell me twice.

1226
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: Um one thing about Sheds and the trauma around Sheds

1227
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: and garat this Uh it would be now hot to

1228
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: take back that power and took up in one. Oh yeah,

1229
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: can I can I say something? You know what gets

1230
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: me a little like high because it's gasoline, but also

1231
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: I like the smell of it because it's gasoline. Gasoline. Huh.

1232
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: When you were saying that, I was like, is this

1233
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,520
Speaker 1: a twist? You're right, Mike, Mike, shed reeked of gasoline,

1234
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: and like whenever you go to a gas station and

1235
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: fill up your car and you smell the gas. I

1236
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm addicted to it. Isn't it interesting

1237
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: that these sheds and garages like places of hiding that's

1238
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: so inherently queer, and yet they're so straight. Yeah, but

1239
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: I guess that is what makes hooking up in one

1240
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: hot fully got to be part of it. I mean, yeah, Well,

1241
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: it's also like the man's do I have to what

1242
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: do you have to leave? I have I have another

1243
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: podcast in two minutes, but I told him I'm ten

1244
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: minutes behind. Okay, great, Um, we can wrap up. We

1245
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: can find a way, I know, but I'm worried that

1246
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: we haven't talked enough about sheds. I feel we've said

1247
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: actually a lot about it, and I can I say something.

1248
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't regret a second of this podcast. I think

1249
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: we've talked about everything important, and I think we've talked

1250
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: about everything amazing, and I think that we have while

1251
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: we've barely grazed on the subject. I actually am thrilled

1252
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: and honored to be one of the guests that it

1253
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: took a really long time to to the topic because

1254
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: we're having such a fun time discussing other things together

1255
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: as friends who are on a group thread together, and

1256
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: it needs to be sad. Yes, m m M, my

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Speaker 1: wedding party. Cannot wait for your zoom wedding. Yeah, coming

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Speaker 1: in when the next the third pandemic comes, can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Third times the jar, maybe, well, third

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Speaker 1: times the jar. It's gonna kill us this time. Fingers crossed,

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01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: fingers crossed. I don't want to die. I just want

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: to stop existing right now for a minute. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Bring me back as a camel babe. Okay, Okay, we

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: literally let him go so we can go to his

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: other podcast. Okay, Sam introduce our final segment shout outs

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: um in the style of TRL. You give a shout

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: something we enjoy you get it? Um. Yeah, And just

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: so you know, Matt, I'm bad at this segment. But

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Speaker 1: also no, he's not. He only don't right before. No,

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Speaker 1: I literally just natural comedic sensibility to do something like this.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, whatever, it's not ever not about you

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: this time. I know it clearly isn't. Um. That's why

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01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Huh do I have one? Huh?

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Speaker 1: You know? No? Oh my god, um um um um.

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Speaker 1: Looking around? What can I say? I have one? Okay, Matt, Yeah,

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01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: what's good everybody. I just want to give a quick

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: shout out to elephants. Elephants sitty wrap right now, because

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: the Republicans and the g O P are absolutely using

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: your image. But I guess what. I know you are smart,

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 1: I know you are big, I know you are mageptic,

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: and I know that you need better representations. So shout

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: out to elephants. Y'all are big, Your noses are the

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: our singular baby, and I just want to let you

1284
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: know that the way you stop, you shine and we

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: actually love you. And if no Republican can take you

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: away from me and you, they are giving you a

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01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 1: bad rap and we know it. With the gay people,

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: stand you, elephants, you have gay fans at least three

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: shout out. I actually have one. What's up, listeners. I

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to donkeys and

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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris this election and not Donald Trump. So I

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01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: have no empathy for elephants, and I don't think they're

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: getting a bad rap because of Republicans. I think what

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: our guest Matt Rogers was trying to do is kind

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01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,959
Speaker 1: of we vamp elephants image to make seem less dangerous

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01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 1: for society. But in fact I think Donkey's ak Democrats

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: are better, and if I had to choose, I would

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: choose the Democrats and I would vote for Joe Item

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Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris in twenty. Please go out and voted.

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01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: Is so important, and don't be confused by gays telling

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: you elephants are actually fine and it's and please vote

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: Democrat because this is actually the most important election of

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01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: our lifetime. And I have supported Joe Biden from day one.

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01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: I said from the get go this is my man.

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: I like him so much that I said, don't even

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: pick a VP, you don't need it. But then I said,

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: you know what good for you? And so now I'm

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 1: voting for the donkeys and not elephants. And Matt Rodgers,

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: you have a lot of explaining to do. Thank you,

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01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: worked up listeners. Um, I just want to give a

1311
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: quick shout out to politics as a whole. I think

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: so incredible and I love that we get together every

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: four years and get to pick our leader. We never

1314
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: because we all get to vote, we make the correct choice.

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01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: We as Americans agree on who is the best for

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: the job, and we put our name on that ballot,

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: and we send it in every four years and every

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,480
Speaker 1: two correct choice. And people here are educated, smart and responsible,

1319
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: and therefore we will succeed because our nation is good

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: at its core. Nothing bad is in our past and

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01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: nothing bad is in our future. I love America. I

1322
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: love politics. Joe Biden is good and so is Donald Trumped.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, good night. WHOA. I have to say, you know,

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: that was a very good trio of shoutouts. We covered

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01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: the whole spectrum. We had, we had um, all the

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: animals represented, and this is very MSNBC. This is huge,

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Speaker 1: the most centrist podcast on Earth. I would say, Matt,

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01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: you were kind of like an sc cup. I was

1329
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: James Carvel and Sam was Um like making can know Sam,

1330
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: Sam has joy one raid vibes. Yeah, definitely, Um Okay, Matt,

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: we'll let you get to your other pod now. But

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: it's been a delight having you on the pod. I

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: feel this podcast has the star quality and I feel

1334
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: that I was really excited to be on and I

1335
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: definitely was a little annoying to Georgia was like, Hey,

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01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: when I'm on, this is what I want to talk

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: about in a way to be like, in a way,

1338
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: to be like I would like to be asked to

1339
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: be on. But that was genuine in my heart. Well,

1340
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: I think George was progressive back by ignoring whatever you

1341
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: said you wanted to talk about and talking about whatever

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: we wanted. Like I said, I would not I wouldn't

1343
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: take back a second of this, Not even when I

1344
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: revealed my tour to date relationship with Jeffrey Boyer Chapman

1345
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 1: relitigated my the view story for the millionth time, or

1346
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: said that I publicly voted for the Iraq War. I

1347
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: don't think back a second of it. I said, by

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: everything I've said here today, this is me. This is

1349
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: what I said when when when I watched The Greatest

1350
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: Showman and she was like, this is me. I was like,

1351
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: that is because I did. I was It's so crazy.

1352
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never heard anyone and say this

1353
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: is me, which is something I think about myself all

1354
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: the time. Girl preach, Like whenever when a girl preach,

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01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't even think that anything else needs to be said. Okay, great, Well, Matt,

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Speaker 1: have fun on your second podcast. Can't wait to hear

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: it about risk. Okay wait