Speaker 1: It was all about appropriating dress clothes to go to
Speaker 1: the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like bits casual all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody was doing it poorly because our heroes
Speaker 3: were doing it poorly, Like nobody. He put on that
Speaker 3: big fucking button up and was like, I got class now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is better than sports.
Speaker 2: Brought people for not wearing big giant button up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: striped dress shirts with jeans.
Speaker 3: It's like about y'all niggas need to grow up.
Speaker 4: And it's like, bro, I don't. I don't think we're
Speaker 4: the problem here.
Speaker 1: We're in ap us history with coupling. So what were
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 3: What were we doing? What were we doing?
Speaker 4: That's crazy, It's really crazy.
Speaker 2: It was so bright though.
Speaker 5: Chips in your Kuala bears are racist. The money and
Speaker 5: turn stuff. I can't tell.
Speaker 3: Me who that?
Speaker 4: Whoda who that?
Speaker 1: Who dad?
Speaker 3: Who? And whodat who?
Speaker 4: There it is there.
Speaker 3: It is ladies and gentlemen. Uh that little mamas and
Speaker 3: and gentiles alike. There It is. Welcome to another phenomenal
Speaker 3: episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 2: Me Podcasts, where we dive deep into the pockets of
Speaker 2: black conspiracy.
Speaker 3: And we finally work to prove that Van Jones is
Speaker 3: supposed to be a different color. Look, I don't mean
Speaker 3: this for for a lot of people, but the passion
Speaker 3: that he stands up for white people leads me to
Speaker 3: believe that there there has to be some sort of
Speaker 3: weird chemical thing happening here that made that man the
Speaker 3: color that he is, because that ain't no nigga.
Speaker 1: You okay seen the throwback video.
Speaker 3: I have seen the event. The dreads dreads, Yeah, dreads.
Speaker 1: Dreads like on some like like College Hill type of stuff,
Speaker 1: like like okay, yeah yeah, not like not like waker dreads,
Speaker 1: but like I've read a lot of books, and I
Speaker 1: can read more books if I don't spend time at
Speaker 1: the barbershop dreads.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He was a real uh love interest on the
Speaker 3: show girlfriends Ass nigga.
Speaker 2: Type of guy who would have been in the film
Speaker 2: Love Jones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can see that, and yeah Lynn's girlfriend,
Speaker 3: Link's boyfriend on On Your Friends. And I will say
Speaker 3: that he started as a community organizer with the at
Speaker 3: least the the resumed intention of helping underprivileged communities and
Speaker 3: ship like that was sort of how he built himself.
Speaker 3: But if you listen to him talk the way this
Speaker 3: motherfucker move there's just a deep, deep sort of connection
Speaker 3: to the white race that I think is probably not
Speaker 3: being addressed in his physical appearance.
Speaker 2: You know he wear a cowboy at.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, but probably seen him in
Speaker 3: a cowboy.
Speaker 1: He's got one. But it's got that's not an every
Speaker 1: week situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's character.
Speaker 3: Matters, man Olivia said, sometimes he does. So maybe we're it.
Speaker 2: I knew it. I seen it. I seen him in
Speaker 2: I seen him in a cowboy at.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up Van Jones and a cowboy.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Boy follows him on the grand
Speaker 1: don't do you really know? Of course not friends.
Speaker 3: That would That would eat me alive, knowing that every
Speaker 3: day you scroll past Van Jones and think about liking
Speaker 3: it a little bit.
Speaker 2: But the thing about my Instagram, I don't even look
Speaker 2: at people I follow. I'm on the explore page.
Speaker 3: Yeah I got you.
Speaker 2: Oh he's got it. He's got it one. He's got
Speaker 2: it on in his Instagram profile.
Speaker 3: Big he wore it once and and took the sexy
Speaker 3: photos with it, and then people ran with it. There
Speaker 3: is no other evidence of him wearing this cowboy hat.
Speaker 2: Ever, a lot of weird people follow Van Jones.
Speaker 3: Coach Prime, Yeah, come on, bro coach.
Speaker 2: No. I mean it's weird that he follows Van Jones,
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 3: He last year said that, Uh, he prefers his linemen.
Speaker 2: Not just how des work. You're a basketball guy, you
Speaker 2: don't know, that's just how he works. He's talking.
Speaker 4: He is at my quarterback.
Speaker 3: I want him reading.
Speaker 4: Books and eating vegetables and my linemen.
Speaker 3: I hope they were raised getting fucking stopped into gre
Speaker 3: by their own families.
Speaker 4: You're like, why would he follow Van Jones?
Speaker 3: What is Van Jones and Coach Brin got to do
Speaker 3: with each other? I think I can find a connection anyway.
Speaker 3: So you are here today, Rob, and we haven't even
Speaker 3: introduced you. Well, I realized now that we haven't even
Speaker 3: said who the fuck is here, which happens all the
Speaker 3: time on this podcast, So don't feel special. We fuck
Speaker 3: up constantly. But our guest today is a dear friend.
Speaker 3: He's so fucking funny. He's written on every goddamn thing,
Speaker 3: Sherman Showcase, all kinds of amazing things. The Inconsistent Podcast
Speaker 3: is his ship, and it's a joy to be on.
Speaker 3: A joy to watch. We're such big fans of him,
Speaker 3: his comedy everything. Give it up for our guest, mister
Speaker 3: Rob Hayes. But yeah, what was that? Is that for
Speaker 3: every guest?
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What about me? That that was personal? Means you don't
Speaker 2: be getting the finest in Indian pop clips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we got that heat. That's mostly what our
Speaker 3: pat is.
Speaker 1: I'm black.
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's You're not even up on it.
Speaker 2: Trust me. The new Drake album is gonna sound exactly
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 3: You came to us with the conspiracy theory that bory.
Speaker 3: I think both we agreed. We had both heard at
Speaker 3: one point, but I don't think either of us had
Speaker 3: enough actual evidence experience inside of the world to really
Speaker 3: have an opinion on Am I correct in saying exactly that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We were both like, ah, I've heard of that, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if I agree or disagree. So I'm
Speaker 3: excited to bribe to hear your stance and all of this.
Speaker 3: But you said, and I want to get this all correct.
Speaker 3: You said, my mama told me freaking a black and
Speaker 3: mom makes it healthier. Yeah, tell us everything.
Speaker 1: It's actually not my mom I've been on the show before,
Speaker 1: so I figured I could venture out into other people
Speaker 1: from my part. But my homeboy, Vincent, who I grew
Speaker 1: up with, I turned eighteen. I'm thirsty. I'm thirsty for
Speaker 1: some sort of adulthood. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: off the table, that's not going to happen. I don't
Speaker 1: know anyone who smokes weed at the time. The only
Speaker 1: thing I can do is smoke a black and Mind
Speaker 1: to get that feeling of yes I am, I am
Speaker 1: an adult.
Speaker 3: Now I'm a very very good bad boy. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I get the Black and Mile. This is
Speaker 1: the first one I bought. I had been smoking Black
Speaker 1: Miles senior year that's when it starts, but I hadn't
Speaker 1: been able to purchase them legally from the store. So
Speaker 1: this is the first one I bought. I buy it.
Speaker 1: You about a pack about to pack? Split it with
Speaker 1: the bros. Use some of that graduation money.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, this nigga rob share.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it right.
Speaker 3: We all we.
Speaker 1: All had graduation money, and I don't know it must
Speaker 1: it might just be young black boys to take all
Speaker 1: the graduation cash, take a picture of it like they
Speaker 1: got it for something other than like academic achievement and
Speaker 1: like that. That was the background on my raising pop.
Speaker 1: It's like my graduation money on the bed like it
Speaker 1: was drug wady, like I was gonna buy boots they got.
Speaker 3: Those images were too grainy for them to be brought
Speaker 3: back up now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't even exist on today's internet.
Speaker 1: Man, there's no backup for the razor.
Speaker 3: One bit pixels. No, we're not gonna see that anymore.
Speaker 1: All the pictures of me with a mohawk are gone.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: There's no internet existence of all my pinwheel hats.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of pin wheels I had.
Speaker 3: I had an entire year when I was teaching high
Speaker 3: school where I was a bow tie guy and I
Speaker 3: was like legit wearing bow ties every day, learned to
Speaker 3: tie them for real, and then was wearing them ships
Speaker 3: out sometimes like after work. I'd be like just kicking
Speaker 3: it at the like the letout and a fucking bow
Speaker 3: tie and ship.
Speaker 1: Oh man, we were. We were like eighteen in the
Speaker 1: most square dressing era of like like the coolest best
Speaker 1: for doras bake glasses. Ties.
Speaker 3: Come on, you know what I'm saying I really thought
Speaker 3: I was on my grown ship. I was like, nah, man,
Speaker 3: you come on really dressed up today, And it was.
Speaker 2: With the white collar and cuffs on the dress shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah fresh, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And the teachers would hype us up. They were so
Speaker 1: happy that we weren't like like wearing like baggy judges
Speaker 1: and stuff that, like your teacher would hype you up,
Speaker 1: but also like you look like a video all you did.
Speaker 1: All I did was go on my dad's closet and
Speaker 1: the stuff he didn't want anymore took over.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was eating my father's clothing alive. And my dad
Speaker 3: can't dress for ship, right right, right, He's not a
Speaker 3: good dresser. But I was fucking yeah, that's what's this.
Speaker 3: I can, I can. I can put a T shirt
Speaker 3: under this and it'll work. This will be exactly what
Speaker 3: I need.
Speaker 1: But okay, So I get the black and mound and
Speaker 1: Vince is like, you got a freaking and I'm like why,
Speaker 1: He's like, you know carcinogens. Now, Now, Vince is not
Speaker 1: in the in some of the advanced classes that I'm in,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I normally don't get
Speaker 1: my science news from Vince but he he had so
Speaker 1: much convention, and then everyone else in the car was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like what are you doing, Like you can't just straight
Speaker 1: from the store. You gotta die, you know, like like yeah,
Speaker 1: And so then he takes all the tobacco, like the
Speaker 1: plastic that it comes in. He takes all the tobacco
Speaker 1: out of it, puts it in a plastic kind of
Speaker 1: like does this thing with the plastic in the black
Speaker 1: and mile and then it's like all right, now it's ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah I freaked it.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So so just so we're clear, no removal
Speaker 3: happens inside of your version of freaking it. This is
Speaker 3: just you just took the tobacco, mixing up the tobacco.
Speaker 1: You need to be you gotta run a little bit.
Speaker 4: What I thought he was like, do some actual doctor
Speaker 4: in to the product.
Speaker 3: But he's like, no, you just gotta shake. You gotta
Speaker 3: shake that in the very plastic it was wrapped in.
Speaker 1: I'm watching this like this, this is no way. But
Speaker 1: like like also it was like I know, I couldn't
Speaker 1: say anything because I felt like everyone else was believing.
Speaker 3: The whole the whole group is like this is science,
Speaker 3: and if you're rejecting science. You're a psychopath.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be unfree. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how much teen boys need health class more
Speaker 2: than anything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like.
Speaker 2: All the ship I did wrong back then was just
Speaker 2: people tell me bad health ship. You know what I mean? Like, no,
Speaker 2: if you drink gold schlager and orange juice, the gold
Speaker 2: flicks cut up your throat and get you drunker. And
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I say this
Speaker 2: all the time. I don't think.
Speaker 3: No, it's like bad.
Speaker 1: Talk about it. It's bad.
Speaker 3: It isn't super bad.
Speaker 2: Because she gets the gold stuff. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: drink gold at my problem. You know, I believed it.
Speaker 2: M my goddamn old cinnamon schnapps I wanted to drink.
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
Speaker 3: I've never had a gold slop.
Speaker 2: I never that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Because of the character who wanted it on super Bad,
Speaker 1: I was that ain't for me.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I had already I was already in before
Speaker 2: super Bad even came out. I got you.
Speaker 3: You had already reached the bottom of the pool.
Speaker 2: So it felt and it felt it felt classic because
Speaker 2: there is gold, or there's some kind of I think
Speaker 2: it is it really gold.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like what like quality of gold.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably some sort of edible gold thing
Speaker 3: that doesn't cost anything for anybody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of things are gold that don't have
Speaker 3: to be expensive. I imagine, right, right.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like just candy wrappers.
Speaker 3: It's just loose candy Rapperschlager cinnamon schnapps is a hot
Speaker 3: cinnamon schnop. So it's a fire fireball a moment.
Speaker 2: It's spicier than spiderball. Whoa you never, oh man, you
Speaker 2: guys never.
Speaker 3: I've never tasted it.
Speaker 1: Three of us in the same place. You got to
Speaker 1: get some gold. Well just off for you. You have
Speaker 1: to make.
Speaker 3: A weird order, my man, because well we're in getting
Speaker 3: three rounds of gold schlager.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can tell, but it's money
Speaker 2: in here tonight.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The reason for this is the goal is the flakes
Speaker 3: of gold in it to drink itself is potent blend schnaps.
Speaker 3: The incredibly fine, incredibly fine sheets of gold around sixty
Speaker 3: two cents worth. Okay, yeah, the bottle, no, yeah, I guess,
Speaker 3: so I'll pay that tax. Oh the flakes each are
Speaker 3: worth sixty two cents.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's not okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Oh no, she's sang the whole Okay, no, no, it's
Speaker 3: pretty bad. It's pretty bad. So so Rob, he tells
Speaker 3: you to freak it. He then does the silliest thing
Speaker 3: you could do in freaking a black and Mile. You
Speaker 3: then go on to freak more black and miles. Do
Speaker 3: you practice what he is preaching? Or do you just
Speaker 3: privately smoke raw the way that you that God intended.
Speaker 1: I kind of smoke raw, but after that pack, I
Speaker 1: really wasn't like in the Black and Miles like it
Speaker 1: was it was the only cool because I at one
Speaker 1: time like it wasn't like I was really just addicted.
Speaker 2: No, that's a terrible it's a difficult habit. Like no,
Speaker 2: but I think everybody has a little phase. But like,
Speaker 2: to smoke black and Miles over a prolonged period of
Speaker 2: time is like and.
Speaker 3: And as somebody has never smoked either that or a cigarette,
Speaker 3: why why is a black and mild so much crazier?
Speaker 1: It's thick, boy, it's yeah, so it's a lot of smoke,
Speaker 1: especially for you to not be smoking like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's a heavy, big, thick it's like
Speaker 2: it's very flavorful, like if you get like the red
Speaker 2: wine or whatever. But it's like it's just it's intense smoking.
Speaker 1: Smell. So it's like not it's not like, oh I
Speaker 1: smell like weed, or I smell like cigarettes, or I
Speaker 1: smell like I can't really place it. It's like, now
Speaker 1: you smell like black men.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's just especially for a teen, and you're
Speaker 2: not even used to tobacco like that. That's why people
Speaker 2: you don't you notice you don't see a ton of
Speaker 2: people who smoke black and miles like regularly.
Speaker 3: No, And I've always wondered that because as a as
Speaker 3: a person again who doesn't smoke at all. That's I
Speaker 3: smoke weed, but like I any tobacco products, it smells good.
Speaker 3: It smells fucking phenomenal to me. When I walk past
Speaker 3: motherfuckers are smoking blacks, I'm like, oh, yeah, why don't
Speaker 3: people smoke blacks? And that that's clarifying.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like smoking a real cigar kind of
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's got a little like like mouthpiece.
Speaker 2: Which is really what draws you in initially anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Why the mouthpieces gonna protect you from stuff? Yeah,
Speaker 1: cigarettes don't got mouth pieces. Yeah, this is craftsmanship.
Speaker 3: Now it's hard. Again, it never made sense to me
Speaker 3: that y'all motherfuckers don't exclusively smoke though.
Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not a black and
Speaker 2: wild smoke.
Speaker 3: I don't say y'all, but anytime, if you're smoking a cigarette,
Speaker 3: it seems like it should be a black and mile.
Speaker 3: But again, I now understand that it's because you're killing
Speaker 3: yourself every time you take.
Speaker 1: I've never seen someone smoke a black and mile, like.
Speaker 1: I've only seen it in certain places, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's a it's a real alley in
Speaker 1: the in the club, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: like like the smoking area at the airport. I've never
Speaker 1: seen a black and mile there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Can't smoke a black and mile on your lunch break,
Speaker 1: your office job. I've seen a cigarette, but I've never
Speaker 1: seen like just a tip of.
Speaker 3: I do love the idea of somebody smoking a black
Speaker 3: and being like, so you gots traveling this year for
Speaker 3: the holidays or are you keeping it local?
Speaker 2: I don't think I've never seen anybody smoking entire Black
Speaker 2: and Mile like just like one person another thing to
Speaker 2: the head, a whole one, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I yeah, so that's the thing. It's like you smoke
Speaker 1: in a quarter, you know, of a black and then
Speaker 1: it's like, now, I'm not gonna throw this away. I
Speaker 1: haven't done the whole, you know, like more than half.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta hold on to this thing. It's never
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put it behind your ear, but then your
Speaker 2: whole head smells like black and mild. Damn.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm well, I'm learning a lot. I'll say
Speaker 3: that I feel very informed in Black and Mile culture,
Speaker 3: and in fact, Olivia is saying that the TSA has
Speaker 3: forbidden Black and Mile to to one of these forbidden items.
Speaker 3: You can't can't travel with black and Miles blood, but.
Speaker 1: You can't take a black.
Speaker 2: This feels I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna just go ahead and say it. This feels racist.
Speaker 3: It feels objectively like they're being like no niggas allowed
Speaker 3: as best they can by eliminating this major.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They're white people don't fuck with black and Miles like that.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, no, but.
Speaker 1: They probably sell them in white areas.
Speaker 2: Just in case, because it's not like it's got the
Speaker 2: double papers, so you can't even like roll it up.
Speaker 1: But like, see, that's the problem. They've been in books
Speaker 1: and you know that we got these issues with police
Speaker 1: and all this, that we got these major racial issues
Speaker 1: that we can never get down to the small issues
Speaker 1: like TSA being in a black and mile. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, we're never gonna get to that
Speaker 1: level where we could be like, yo, TSA, what's up
Speaker 1: with that? What does the black mile do that's gonna
Speaker 1: prevent you know, the airport from being safe.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. And I love that you're saying this.
Speaker 2: I think it's more they don't want people who regularly,
Speaker 2: they don't want people who are willing to travel with
Speaker 2: black and miles on planes. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: But either way, because Greyhound in the line they give
Speaker 1: you a black and mile, they're like, all right, everybody
Speaker 1: get a number order, you gotta get a number one.
Speaker 1: But they're real strict about that. They will yell at you.
Speaker 1: And you know they were like, all right, here's and that's.
Speaker 3: How they print out their tickets on a black and mile.
Speaker 3: It's just written in a circle. Around the around the wrapper.
Speaker 3: I do think Rob, that you're saying something really beautiful here,
Speaker 3: is that the political climate we live in today will
Speaker 3: continue to distract us with issues regarding Roe v. Wade,
Speaker 3: regarding our fucking our rights as free citizens. Right in
Speaker 3: order to distract us from the fundamental issues that would
Speaker 3: actually make our lively, our existence safer, better, more inclusive.
Speaker 3: Is we need to take down the black and mild
Speaker 3: issues at the airport and not get stuck in all
Speaker 3: the other political jargon that's meant to distract us.
Speaker 1: I went to a rose garden. There's roses. Every time
Speaker 1: a new breed of roses come out, they name them something.
Speaker 1: In the In the fifties, they ran out of just
Speaker 1: random names and things. They started naming them after actresses.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of black women have roses named after them.
Speaker 1: And we can't even talk about that because we got
Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry. I wanted to rap Henson Rose,
Speaker 1: come on, but I can't even get to that because
Speaker 1: there's so much other stuff.
Speaker 2: Because of the pipelines. Pipe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want angel He was trying to say, come on, Angela. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Viola Davis Rose.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on to Angela. Ye rose. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: all want that angela yee.
Speaker 1: Come on, you know it starts with three buds and
Speaker 1: then it just kind of does its own thing.
Speaker 3: And it's a it's not doing good. It's a sick rose.
Speaker 3: Those other buds, only one of the buzz is doing well,
Speaker 3: and they don't even seem present anymore. They're kind of
Speaker 3: checked down.
Speaker 2: That got all woke. The other budd trying to sell
Speaker 2: me a house.
Speaker 3: He had a real fat flower with him that It
Speaker 3: wasn't even a rose, it was just that was something
Speaker 3: sort of dandylion that kind of I.
Speaker 2: Was like, quite frankly, that's a fat ass daisy, and
Speaker 2: I don't trust it.
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Speaker 2: Look at your name, but said he's a mixed stretcher,
Speaker 2: He'll stretch on me.
Speaker 1: Holl Ay, Luca.
Speaker 2: We are back with Rob Hayes discussing the health benefits
Speaker 2: of freaking a black and mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait wait what what What was the context
Speaker 1: of that clip? Is the context?
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: Secutars you're saying, is there historical context for you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, what connotation of meat stretching does he mean?
Speaker 1: Does he mean like like like that in food or
Speaker 1: or is this it's a clip from a church.
Speaker 2: We all know what kind of meat stretching he means.
Speaker 3: I think I think he certainly, uh, he certainly chose
Speaker 3: his words. Nobody gave him those words, and I dare say,
Speaker 3: maybe words.
Speaker 2: The second King's I think he's maybe Paul's letters to
Speaker 2: the Effusions.
Speaker 1: That's funny. He gets to heaven Jesus like I stretched, bitch,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even stretching meat.
Speaker 3: You freestyle that. It's not Bro, you ain't crazy up there.
Speaker 2: I'm not even allowed to.
Speaker 3: You ain't fucking know.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't put a rainbow after that, right. I know.
Speaker 3: A lot of people have interpreted my work.
Speaker 1: You know, are you saying the rainbow's God?
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, I had to give you one.
Speaker 3: I had to do a drop real in the sky, Rob.
Speaker 3: I did some research on your conspiracy theory that I'd
Speaker 3: love to hear your thoughts on. I want any and
Speaker 3: every thought you have on this. Other terms, other other
Speaker 3: practice or suggestions that people make, ways that people describe
Speaker 3: this practice. They it's also been described as hyping or champing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if either of you have heard that.
Speaker 1: Champion doesn't even sound like from my culture.
Speaker 2: No, is that like panic cross shoot.
Speaker 3: It felt like either a weird part of the South
Speaker 3: or maybe Asian. For me, it's got like an Asian
Speaker 3: quality that feels Filipino.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're the only ones that would smoke blacks, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Think Korean dudes are smoking black.
Speaker 3: Now, but.
Speaker 1: That dude, they got his hair like in the little
Speaker 1: rubber bands to make it like puff up like a
Speaker 1: Fro video. He smokes black, but not like but he is.
Speaker 2: But that's like purely as appropriation. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, smoking in their heart like they mean.
Speaker 1: Right right right. Yeah, might not smoke them, but he
Speaker 1: might light them.
Speaker 3: And exactly, he's trying to show us that he knows
Speaker 3: about Black and Miles more than he has a real
Speaker 3: affinity for Black and Miles.
Speaker 2: Whereas I think they're Filipino dudes who smoke Black and
Speaker 2: Miles when nobody's around.
Speaker 3: I think they I think if I were a betting man,
Speaker 3: I think they might have the biggest Black and Miles
Speaker 3: purchases on the planet. I would say, I think I
Speaker 3: bet the Philippines is like it's an epidemic in fucking
Speaker 3: the Philippines.
Speaker 2: You know, smoking the jazz ones and the.
Speaker 3: And I think they start young out there with that ship.
Speaker 2: Many open on black.
Speaker 3: He was like, what I'm saying, you can't see Manny's
Speaker 3: smoking a fucking black Yeah, singing. Anyway, I did some research.
Speaker 3: Champing hyping are both descriptions, or rather ways of describing
Speaker 3: the same practice, and then I didn't think that I
Speaker 3: was gonna find a lot. I'll start off by saying
Speaker 3: this A lot of times, my research doesn't always yield
Speaker 3: a lot of information, especially for something this sort of
Speaker 3: like nuclear specific. Right. That said, I ended up bumping
Speaker 3: into this actual peer reviewed article from the National Library
Speaker 3: of Medicine. Yeah, that is about this exactly. It is
Speaker 3: titled Acute Effects of Hyping A black and Mild Cigarello.
Speaker 2: Who wrote this.
Speaker 3: A number of doctors, my man, four different doctors work
Speaker 3: together to write this. PhDs Melissa D. Blair, Yes, player
Speaker 3: eight or degree.
Speaker 2: Carol a lot of steepling lately, And I don't know
Speaker 2: how I feel about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just didn't know my hands. Yeah, Keith Lee,
Speaker 3: I'm about doing a review of your sandwiches in Denver.
Speaker 1: Blacky Miles, let's try it.
Speaker 3: What's his deal? Because it used to be like a
Speaker 3: fighter and now he talks weird but also doesn't talk
Speaker 3: weird when when real situations happened. What's happening with him.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, he figured out how to how to be
Speaker 1: a food critic line, and I didn't even know that
Speaker 1: was the thing. I eat food all the time every day,
Speaker 1: could have been assigning numbers every goddamn day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he he just like started showing up to
Speaker 3: restaurants and being like, I'm gonna review this, and now
Speaker 3: everybody is terrified of him. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 3: It's there's a lot of power out here that we're
Speaker 3: not accessing. And I think that's a lesson worth learning today. Fellas.
Speaker 1: I like that, that's real.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, Uh, there's this actual peer reviewed article that
Speaker 3: were written by these these professionals presumably professors, where they
Speaker 3: asked that exact question, what is the purpose of quote
Speaker 3: unquote hyping and do the effects actually yield like a
Speaker 3: healthier experience for people? And they did a test with
Speaker 3: twenty smokers, nineteen male, one female, which feels statistically correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Only five percent of people who smoke blacks are female.
Speaker 2: I think as many women smoke black and miles as
Speaker 2: chew tobacco. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a rarefy So you know, and
Speaker 6: so you don't as a woman, you don't want to
Speaker 6: just go up and be like yeah, And also, can
Speaker 6: I get one of those black and miles back there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Now you got to make a choice as
Speaker 3: a lady, what kind of gal you're gonna be? And fellas,
Speaker 3: if you're out there and you find a girl who
Speaker 3: smokes black and miles, hold on her down, hold on
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get another one my words, hold my words.
Speaker 3: Didn't be good to her, you'll be a good to her,
Speaker 3: to those burnt lips. You don't want to go out
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because somebody else is gonna take it. All that
Speaker 2: apple smoke, but not a lot of reflexes in general,
Speaker 2: senses are dumb dulled by years of black and smoke.
Speaker 3: She's like, what's the what's the one in street Fighter
Speaker 3: who's always covered in smoke? She's that, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll move on, fuck it, We'll do it live. But
Speaker 3: in the research, they asked that question, does freaking the
Speaker 3: black and miles make it healthier? They said they also
Speaker 3: had nineteen non Hispanic blacks as part of their study,
Speaker 3: and one Hispanic quote unquote, other played out as the
Speaker 3: makeup of this I guess fucking thing, and then all
Speaker 3: participants reported hyping their cigarettos at least occasionally. Primary outcomes
Speaker 3: assessed over two thirty minutes smoking bouts included plasma, nicotine,
Speaker 3: expired air, carbon monoxide, concentration, subject ratings, and puff topography.
Speaker 3: These were all their measures that they were looking forward
Speaker 3: to make this a to see if it's a healthier
Speaker 3: thing with the inhale map. I think so puff makes
Speaker 3: it a little complicated because I think of the puff
Speaker 3: coming out and so I'm not sure if that was
Speaker 3: them meaning taking the puff and what it does inside. Okay,
Speaker 3: Puff's making a lot of things complicated right now, I
Speaker 3: wiser words has never been spoken.
Speaker 2: My man.
Speaker 1: It's a rough time to be a woke DJ. I
Speaker 1: just said that.
Speaker 3: I do like the idea of them stopping down the
Speaker 3: music and being like, hey, I just want to say,
Speaker 3: puff is making a lot of things complicated right now.
Speaker 4: But the music's got to live on.
Speaker 2: The art from the artist.
Speaker 3: But that said, they do this study, and one of
Speaker 3: the things that immediately I sort of zeroed in on
Speaker 3: inside of this study is a section that basically says
Speaker 3: that the behavior where they take out the tobacco and
Speaker 3: instead of just rubbing it together as your boy Vincent did,
Speaker 3: what they often do is they take out, they removed,
Speaker 3: the filler is loosened, which I think is what your
Speaker 3: boy was doing. The filler is dumped out, the inner
Speaker 3: tobacco binder is removed, and the tobacco filler is dumped
Speaker 3: back into the leaf wrappers. So yeah, it just becomes
Speaker 3: sort of a more raw experience without these filters and
Speaker 3: sort of like liners that are additionally added to keep
Speaker 3: everything sexy. You know what, Vince might have did it right.
Speaker 3: I might not have known what I was looking at.
Speaker 1: But now that you say that, I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: like filters and stuff be removed. Like now I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I was. I wasn't paying attention. I was too
Speaker 1: I was too excited.
Speaker 3: You gotta call him after this and apologize.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just how going asked if he needs any
Speaker 2: money on his book? No, I think I think this
Speaker 2: made it out he's straight.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you owe in them apology. That's yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you did a crazy thing. You accuse this man of
Speaker 3: mushing black and mild tobacco in his hands and then
Speaker 3: putting it back and being like go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but in addition filters and stuff we're removed.
Speaker 1: No what I described it take place, but that that
Speaker 1: was the only thing that took.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, but yes, it's the remover of the
Speaker 3: the cancer paper, as it's often sort of like colloquial,
Speaker 3: colloquially referred to, why take on a word if you
Speaker 3: can't pronounce it? These are the questions you asked yourself
Speaker 3: in your hand.
Speaker 1: Someone in the whip did say cancer paper for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and they you take that cancer paper out,
Speaker 3: you roll it back up, and now you got yourself.
Speaker 3: Now you got a stew Now you got the thing
Speaker 3: you want?
Speaker 2: And what and what did they say?
Speaker 3: Oh as far as the actually I thought maybe you'd
Speaker 3: have more thoughts on the actual cancer paper, but no.
Speaker 2: You Oh I hate two paper. I hate two paper
Speaker 2: cigars always. It's why I don't fuck with Dutch masters.
Speaker 3: M hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: But sure during the pandemic, I tried to smoke a
Speaker 1: Philly just because I was like like a titan. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just because I was like, well this is what not smoke?
Speaker 1: When he made ill metic or at least this is
Speaker 1: what he told us about. Also, it's the pandemic why not.
Speaker 1: And I've never coughed so hard, Like it was like
Speaker 1: it was like I smoke for the first time. It
Speaker 1: was rated.
Speaker 2: Phillies are a brutal Yes, is.
Speaker 3: That just a thick two paper situation.
Speaker 1: It's also like, uh, cigar, so it's like it's also
Speaker 1: serve and yeah, so now you gotta deal with the
Speaker 1: whole you know, unraveling of it. Yeah, it's not even
Speaker 1: a cylinder fun. Yeah, No, it don't sound good.
Speaker 2: Billy is one paper though, it's just the Dutchess are
Speaker 2: two papers because you.
Speaker 1: But it's one strong paper.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a road up tree bark thing thing.
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Speaker 3: sweet stuff. So get it to the question of whether
Speaker 3: or not it does in fact make things healthier. One
Speaker 3: published study has compared directly the effects of the cigarette
Speaker 3: low that is smoked in its original form versus the
Speaker 3: binder and basically what they said following smoking of their
Speaker 3: condition assigned product. Expired air carbon monoxide levels were significantly
Speaker 3: lower for the modified versus the original black and mild smoking.
Speaker 3: Plasma nicotine levels were increased significantly from pre to post
Speaker 3: smoking for both black and mild products, meaning they had
Speaker 3: the smoke twice, one of which was freaked, one of
Speaker 3: which was not. They said that your plasma did go up,
Speaker 3: but they're saying that that was specific to the smoking
Speaker 3: of two fucking black and miles, not because of the
Speaker 3: freaking of the black and mouths themselves.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, we almost killed you by making you
Speaker 3: smoke two black and miles, But that didn't have nothing
Speaker 3: to do with the toxins or anything.
Speaker 1: I like that they call them bouts because you gotta fight.
Speaker 3: You're fighting for your fucking life. Uh. And then additionally
Speaker 3: the and this is probably the most important sentence inside
Speaker 3: of this, They said, these results suggest that removal of
Speaker 3: the inner binder may in fact reduce exposure to stone toxicants.
Speaker 3: That it it really is probably making it slightly healthier
Speaker 3: for you to remove the quote unquote cants or paper.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, My question is then, what is the point
Speaker 2: of the cancer paper?
Speaker 1: The cancer.
Speaker 2: I see?
Speaker 3: I think if I were a guessing man, it probably
Speaker 3: is more for holding things in place and or being
Speaker 3: able to roll it faster. On a mass produced level,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know. They mass produce a lot of like
Speaker 2: sticks and cigars, even with tips. What's your sweet as
Speaker 2: tips that don't have double papers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it depends like an extra expense to me,
Speaker 3: But it depends on when you made your company and
Speaker 3: how you want to brand it. Right, Like they're how
Speaker 3: go far does Black and Miles go back? That's kind
Speaker 3: of can't be before the seventies, right, Black and Miles. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I bet you Black and Miles were like old pirate
Speaker 3: shit that like suddenly you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: I bet they They're a tale as old as time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up. Black. You think this is
Speaker 2: the first time I've Google image that Google searched Black
Speaker 2: and Mild history.
Speaker 3: The first time.
Speaker 2: No, I do not.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's in the tense.
Speaker 2: The company launched the Black and Miles cigar brand in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. That makes sense to me, that feels okay.
Speaker 3: But we was the original John Middleton was founded as
Speaker 3: a small retail tobacco shop in Philadelphia and eight course
Speaker 3: fifty six.
Speaker 2: Of course this has to of course Philadelphia brought this
Speaker 2: to us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the way in eighteen fifty six, So
Speaker 3: it's it's it's ancient.
Speaker 2: But eighty is after Freebase. I mean, now you're getting
Speaker 2: to it. Now, it's getting now, it's like this was
Speaker 2: even newer. Yeah, yeah, Black Mile, it should have went Firsty.
Speaker 3: You're saying Black and Miles saved some lives and deserves
Speaker 3: a little recognition.
Speaker 2: I mean, I worry that people got on freebase to
Speaker 2: get off black and miles.
Speaker 3: Like I just need I need a healthier habit. You
Speaker 3: can smoking black and mile. I'm gonna free based cocaine.
Speaker 2: I uh so, wait, what's so this is true? Is
Speaker 2: what you're saying?
Speaker 3: It seems that way that it does that basically freaking
Speaker 3: it does seem to help it make it healthier. Now,
Speaker 3: it does not suggest, and I want to be very
Speaker 3: careful with this, it does not suggest that it makes
Speaker 3: it a healthy experience. Everything that you both have described
Speaker 3: has led me to believe that freaked or unfreaked, smoking
Speaker 3: a black and mild is a bad choice that no
Speaker 3: one should be participating in that.
Speaker 2: So if you just you found out it's a boy
Speaker 2: fire one up, I mean yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: little sister graduated trade school fire one up. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In football, I survive, you know, maybe I'm just a
Speaker 1: survival I'm saying. Maybe, you know, like like if you
Speaker 1: if you've been through the struggle, maybe you could smoke
Speaker 1: a black a mount or chilling it it really matter.
Speaker 1: I think when you fly domestic, you should give your
Speaker 1: I D the TSA. You should give them your board
Speaker 1: and pass. You should give them your black mouse TSA
Speaker 1: should have to freak them.
Speaker 2: For you, That's what I'm screaming.
Speaker 1: But I'm back there. I'm always looking at somebody watching
Speaker 1: what's in the bag. There's somebody feeling what what the
Speaker 1: alarm went off, and then there's somebody else chilling that person.
Speaker 1: They probably already know how to freak it, so just
Speaker 1: let them do what they do on the clock.
Speaker 3: Them freaking for you, freak the black mouth, hand it
Speaker 3: back to me, uh, the same way you hand me
Speaker 3: back my ID and and ticket and ship and then
Speaker 3: let me go and put my stuff on the on
Speaker 3: the conveyor belt.
Speaker 7: Yeaholans Kan, Yeah, yeah, I think that sounds correct.
Speaker 3: I think I think frankly, our tax dollars are constantly
Speaker 3: being misused and there's a lot of glaring opportunities that
Speaker 3: need to be taking advantage of, including freaking black and
Speaker 3: miles for paying customers.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm pre checked, so my mine should get
Speaker 1: freaked first, yo. Yeah, I don't have to take my
Speaker 1: shoes up. You know what I'm saying. I'm going too quicker,
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, priority on min being free. But then
Speaker 1: everybody else taking the freak too.
Speaker 3: And I and frankly, I want you to freaking even
Speaker 3: if I am running late for my plane. I don't
Speaker 3: I want this to move at a reasonable pace. I
Speaker 3: don't want this to be a thing where I gotta
Speaker 3: wait twenty minutes to get my ship. Freaked this this
Speaker 3: needs to come out fast and freaked quick.
Speaker 2: I mean you can't. You can't rush your freak though
Speaker 2: either gate and let him know you're freaking There we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I hear.
Speaker 2: Your truck right, You're gonna drive you to my gate
Speaker 2: because it took too long to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just take accountability, is all I'm asking. Well, Rob,
Speaker 3: it seems like we did it. It seems I feel
Speaker 3: like we covered this conspiracy there.
Speaker 1: You know, I wish to be in the same place
Speaker 1: as at some point in my life. Too much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for doing it.
Speaker 3: We'll get some schlager. Will all take one puff of
Speaker 3: a black and be like, I.
Speaker 2: Gotta keep doing it. You're good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm straight. Yeah no, I'm in uh excruciating pain.
Speaker 3: Thank you, And I'm gonna cough in my dreams. Hey, I'm.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 3: Could you tell the people where they can find you
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