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Speaker 1: are continuing our mid season awards check in focusing on

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about specifically why Cooper is such

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. Then we're gonna actually

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Speaker 1: dive into each of those individual players, how their games

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Speaker 1: throughout the remainder of the season. So Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year hard Rock bet has pretty straightforward lines here. Cooper

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Speaker 1: a massive drop to VJ Edgecomb at plus seventy five hundred,

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Speaker 1: So what that means is Cooper's going to deservedly win

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Speaker 1: it if he stays healthy. You're really just betting on

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Speaker 1: shooting Konk Nipple nineteen six and four on sixty five

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Speaker 1: He's doing pretty basic kind of backside defense stuff, getting

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Speaker 1: But I think overall, CON's going to be a fine defender,

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Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean that Con couldn't handle that, right Like,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Konk Nipple has a sixty

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Speaker 1: me are the completely legit reasons why Cooper should get

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Speaker 1: Cooper has seven thirty point games, Con has four. Cooper

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Speaker 1: main reasons that will be important not just be not

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Speaker 1: just the actual rebounding piece, but also the muscle mass piece.

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Speaker 1: That has become one of the most dynamic kind of

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Speaker 1: defensive looks that we've seen have success in the NBA

433
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Speaker 1: in the last few years. Is like, if you have

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Speaker 1: a forward who can guard centers and can also switch

435
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Speaker 1: on to perimeter ball handlers, you can shut down an

436
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Speaker 1: opponent's base pick and roll will look and force them

437
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Speaker 1: to run pick and roll that they don't practice very often.

438
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Speaker 1: So you can tuck your center on a week side

439
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Speaker 1: shooter or let's just say the power forward for the

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Speaker 1: other team. And now all of a sudden, the opposing

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Speaker 1: ball handlers like, man, I don't want to go at

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum or in this case Cooper Flag in a switch,

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Speaker 1: so why don't I go bring the center into the action.

444
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Speaker 1: But now they're running the action with a different screen

445
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Speaker 1: partner then they typically run it with. It can be

446
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Speaker 1: very non traditional. Can jank up the spacing. How's a

447
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: big thing we saw in the Dallas series, right, Like,

448
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: all Derek Jones and PJ. Washington are taking all these

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Speaker 1: corner threes in the first few rounds because teams are

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Speaker 1: defending Dallas traditionally and the role man is the center, right,

451
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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, Austin puts Tatum on

452
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Speaker 1: your center, and now you're running your pick and rolls

453
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Speaker 1: with PJ. Washington and Derek Jones. What does that do?

454
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Speaker 1: It puts them more as poppers. And when they're they're

455
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Speaker 1: popping above the break, very different shot than those corner

456
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: threes that they had been taking, they go cold. It

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Speaker 1: was one of the biggest swing factors in that series.

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Speaker 1: And so having Cooper develop into a bigger, stronger version

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Speaker 1: of himself that's a better rebounder, can help him get

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Speaker 1: to that point where he's able to actually guard centers,

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Speaker 1: which is the fundamental thing that can give defensive flexibility

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Speaker 1: to Dallas moving forward. And I actually think he's got

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Speaker 1: more potential than Tatum as a perimeter defender. I think

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Speaker 1: he's quicker laterally, and I think he's just got a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of that like natural perimeter defender DNA,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So like I think like it's

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Speaker 1: a goal, he's got a long way to go again, Tatum,

468
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Speaker 1: before you got hurt, was the fifth best player in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. There's a ton of improvement he needs to

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Speaker 1: get there. We're about to talk about the jump shot.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge part of this. Like, Coop's got get

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Speaker 1: way better on the jump shot. Tatum came into the

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Speaker 1: league as a good jump shooter, so there's like a

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Speaker 1: different kind of level that he's got to get you there.

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Speaker 1: But I'm more just focusing on Tatum as a defender

476
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Speaker 1: and as a rebounder. I think that should be the

477
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Speaker 1: goal that Cooper is chasing as he tries to reach

478
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Speaker 1: his individual ceiling all right time to didn't pick the jump shot.

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Speaker 1: Thirty point seven percent on all jump shots this year,

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Speaker 1: just zero point eighty five points per attempt. If you

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Speaker 1: break it down by type, He's twenty eight percent on

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Speaker 1: catch and shoot threes this year. That's brutally bad. When

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Speaker 1: he's unguarded, like standing alone eleven for forty eight, which

484
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Speaker 1: is below twenty percent, So like, that's a scary one.

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Speaker 1: He's got to get substantially better or just a little

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Speaker 1: over twenty percent. Excuse me, that's one that he's really

487
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Speaker 1: got to work on. That's, you know, inevitably next year

488
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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving will be healthy. And when Kyrie Irving is healthy,

489
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Speaker 1: Coop's gonna get a lot more catch and shoot looks.

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Speaker 1: And the only way he's gonna be able to pay

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Speaker 1: those off is by improving as a catch and shoot player.

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Speaker 1: It's been better off the dribble thirty nine percent on

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Speaker 1: pull up twos. We're gonna talk about it a Minute's

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Speaker 1: taken too many long twos thirty two percent on pull

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Speaker 1: up threes. Again, the big thing here, I want to

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Speaker 1: see him trim down in the number of long twos

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Speaker 1: that he's taking. He's taken sixty one twos outside of

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Speaker 1: seventeen feet, so more than once per game. That's the

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Speaker 1: worst shot in basketball for anyone. And the kinds of

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Speaker 1: guys that you're seeing taking those shots are usually really

501
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: good shooters. They're a handful of counter examples like Shayden

502
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Sharp takes too many of them, and he's not a

503
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Speaker 1: very good you know, long too. Pull up shooter Michael

504
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: Porter Junior takes a lot of long twos and he's sneaky,

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Speaker 1: not very good at him. So like the when it

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Speaker 1: gets to that specific shot, I'd like to see him

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Speaker 1: just trim that out. Like Kevin Durant has taken seventy

508
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Speaker 1: of them, but he's hitting fifty one percent because he's

509
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Speaker 1: one of the best shooters in the NBA. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason for Cooper to be taking nearly that many super

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Speaker 1: long twos. I would have that be solely when you're

512
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Speaker 1: up against the shot clock. Again, the main difference between

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum and Cooper Flag at this point is the

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Speaker 1: jump shot piece. Now, when you look at Jason Tatum,

515
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Speaker 1: I ironically he came into the league as a better

516
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Speaker 1: jump shooter, but that's been one of the most frustrating

517
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Speaker 1: things over the last five years is his super streakiness

518
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Speaker 1: as a jump shooter. He'll go through stretches where for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks he's hitting forty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: his threes and he's hitting all of his stepbacks, and

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy looks amazing. And then I'll

522
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: have a Stretchberrey goes ice cold and he shoots twenty

523
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Speaker 1: eight percent from three for a couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: in the aggregate, Tatum has been right around a point

525
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Speaker 1: per jump shot, which is pretty mediocre. Right, Like, Cooper's

526
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Speaker 1: got a long way to go to get to where

527
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Speaker 1: Tatum was, but Tatum never really fully fulfilled his potential

528
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Speaker 1: as a jump shooter. That's where Cooper's got some potential

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Speaker 1: to even be better than him if he can chain

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Speaker 1: together the interior defensive piece of Jason Tatum, and then

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Speaker 1: you add the perimeter defensive potential that Cooper has. Tatum's

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Speaker 1: a good perimeter defender, but I think Cooper can be

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Speaker 1: even better there. And then Cooper's a better driver. Cooper's

534
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Speaker 1: a very gifted driver of the basketball. If he can

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Speaker 1: supersed Tatum as a jump shooter, that's where he could

536
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Speaker 1: enter into some conversations that even Tatum has never entered into.

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Speaker 1: Long way to get there, but that's the type of

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00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: potential that Cooper has. Overall, I think he's exceeded expectations

539
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: this year, kind of in the middle of a mini

540
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: leap right now too. In his last six games thirty two,

541
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: eight and four on fifty three percent from the field,

542
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: forty six percent from three and eighty four percent from

543
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Speaker 1: the line, So we could even be looking at a

544
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Speaker 1: guy that's going to go up a level down the

545
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Speaker 1: tail end of the season. Last thing I'll say here

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Speaker 1: about Cooper. I remember Sam Vessini, as you guys know,

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: sampasen a good friend of mine. He comes on the

548
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: show every year multiple times, and he's, in my opinion,

549
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: the very best NBA draft guy out there. And Sam

550
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: he gives out these like level grades for his prospects,

551
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Speaker 1: and I remember he gave a level one grade to

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Speaker 1: Cooper and he had told me privately, He's like, I

553
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Speaker 1: don't give this grade very often, and he was standing

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Speaker 1: on business when it came to Cooper. He thought he

555
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: was that level of prospect. And I think Cooper has

556
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Speaker 1: demonstrated that upside this season so far. Con Kinippule con

557
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: represents a combination of two archetypes of players that I

558
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: think are deeply valuable in the modern MBA, the dynamic

559
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: movement shooter and the big bodied playmaker type. He's kind

560
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: of both of those mixed into one player. The dynamic

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Speaker 1: movement shooting is what creates a coverage dynamic that breaks

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00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: most modern defenses. It forces you to lock and trail

563
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: and stay attached. It's when you get into switching with defenders.

564
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: That's when mistake is switching with shooters, that's when mistakes

565
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: get made. Right. That's when you have guys botching switches,

566
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: or there can be a switch interchange gap, like this

567
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: guy peels off of me and the next guy's comeing

568
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: to guard me, but there's a gap in there. If

569
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: you hit me, I can hit a shot, right. Like,

570
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of issues that come from switching, and

571
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: so a lot of times you want to do a

572
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: traditional lock and trail coverage. You want to have a

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00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: guy that's like, you stay glued to this guy's damn

574
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: hip the entire time he's on the floor, right, and

575
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: so when he's locking and trailing, then it becomes a

576
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: read for the big. If he stays attached, the big

577
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: can stay back in a drop coverage. If there's separation,

578
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: then the big has to show at the level. But

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Speaker 1: the only way you can unlock those coverages, and those

580
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: coverages are the pathway to like broken defense right, Like

581
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Speaker 1: a defender and trail position can lead to a lot

582
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: of dribble penetration because if he's chasing you, then he's

583
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: just gonna let you curl and now you're going downhill.

584
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: And if they come up to the level with their

585
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: big that sparks the four on threes, which can lead

586
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: to all sorts of layups, dunks, and wide open threes.

587
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: But you have to be a truly great shooter to

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Speaker 1: dictate those types of coverages. I'd even add two on

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00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: the ball type of situations, which, like I was, you know,

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: digging into the film today, like con is seeing a

591
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: ton of two on the ball coverages where like he's

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00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: coming off of uh guard guard ghost screens and getting

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: trapped or like trapped on pick and rolls. Like he's

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00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of those like aggressive two on the

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00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: ball type situations. He's had some turnover issues there which

596
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a little bit, but like he

597
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: is shooting the ball so damn well that he is

598
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: dictating a lot of these super aggressive coverages. Here are

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Speaker 1: his big picture jump shooting stats forty three percent on

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00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: all jump shots, one point two to one points per attempt.

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00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: That's outstanding thanks to him making one hundred and eighty

602
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: three threes already this season at forty three percent. Breakdown

603
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: by type forty one percent on catch and shoot threes

604
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: forty eight percent on off the dribble threes, that's insane.

605
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: Forty five percent on off the dribble twos, which is okay.

606
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Off of movement. This is where the real value is. Again,

607
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: like spot up threes and movement threes carry two very

608
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: different types of value because spot up threes there's like

609
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: a pretty high floor around the NBA, Like they're every

610
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: team has a guy that you're like, you know, if

611
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: he gets open, he's probably not gonna make it. But

612
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: like for most teams, like most of their role players,

613
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: if they're standing butt naked in the corner, they're gonna

614
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: make you know, somewhere between thirty five and forty percent

615
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: of them, and the best shooters will make a higher percentage.

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Speaker 1: But like the difference in outcome on a spot up

617
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: three based on talent, you know, jump shooting talent is

618
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: much much much, much much smaller than the difference in

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Speaker 1: result that you're going to see in shooting talent on

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Speaker 1: movement threes, right, And so that's in movement threes are

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Speaker 1: the kinds of threes that are going to dictate certain

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Speaker 1: types of coverages, right, Like how do you guard a

623
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Speaker 1: spot up shooter, just don't leave them like it's pretty simple.

624
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: How do you guard a movement shooter? Much more complicated situation,

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00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: So off of movement is where the real value is

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00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: for Con. Out of his one hundred and eighty three

627
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: made threes, only seventy six of them have come in

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Speaker 1: spot up situations. Not a big surprise. You're not going

629
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Speaker 1: to leave Con open in spot up situations very often.

630
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: But so that means we're literally looking at one hundred

631
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: and seven threes that are in some sort of movement.

632
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: He's made thirty four in transition. Those are different types

633
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: of movement threes. You're sprinting to the corner, you're trailing

634
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: the play above the break right, he's made fifteen. As

635
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball handler and pick and roll, he shot fifty

636
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: two percent on those two. Talk about dictating aggressive coverages.

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00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: If you let Con settle into a pull up three

638
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: in a ball screen as you go under, or because

639
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: the big set's a big screen and the big the

640
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: defensive big is too far back, he's hitting over fifty

641
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: percent of them. You can't do that. That's over one

642
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: point five points per shot. That's gonna get your beat. Right,

643
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: He's hitting twenty five he's hit twenty five on fifty

644
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: two percent. Slipping out of inverted ball screens. He'll do

645
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: this a lot with LaMelo ball. He'll run up, set

646
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: the little slip and then it'll run out. Sometimes they'll

647
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: add like a a Sometimes they'll add like a flare

648
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: screen to this where they'll have like LaMelo's there. Con'll

649
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: come up and set the screen, slip out of it,

650
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: and then run off of a flare from Mussa diabate.

651
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: And that's just like super difficult to guard. It's it's

652
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: so funny. I was playing pick up on Sunday. I'm

653
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: playing this private run here in Denver on Sunday mornings,

654
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: and it's just a bunch of really smart players that

655
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: have played at various levels, and so it's just really

656
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: like kind of like it's the closest thing to like

657
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: real basketball that you'll see from pick up, just because

658
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: you have a lot of smart players know how to play.

659
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: And I was actually guarding a shooter in a sequence

660
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: that up being a slip out of a ball screen

661
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: into a flare, and I was guarding the original ball

662
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: handler and I switched onto the guard who was slipping

663
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: out of the screen and just got rocked by a

664
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: flare screen that I just didn't even see because it's

665
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: like happening so fast. There's like a guy that's slipping

666
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: that you're switching onto, but then there's this other screen

667
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: that's coming and if you're not like communicating through the

668
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: whole thing, I just get absolutely rocked. The big who's

669
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: guarding the other bigs not up at the level, so

670
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: he shakes free for three at the top of the key.

671
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: It actually ended up up getting us beat in that game.

672
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: And like, that's the kind of action that can be

673
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: extremely difficult to guard. But again, you got to have

674
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: a guy who can hit threes slipping out of action.

675
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: CON's literally hitting fifty two percent of those specific threes

676
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: slipping out of screens as the screener. The only real

677
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: knock on his movement shooting is coming out of dribble

678
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: handoffs and pinned downs. Those have been the statistically worst

679
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: jump shots that he's taken. He's taken eighty four of

680
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: those specifically, and he's made twenty six. That's just thirty

681
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: one percent. Now, what's the difference between slipping out of

682
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: a guard guard screen hitting a three out of some

683
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: sort of inverted or excuse me out of some sort

684
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: of traditional ball screen or transition three. Usually that means

685
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: someone's not attached to you. So like if you're slipping

686
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: out of a guard guard screen, if you're taking a

687
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: three there, that typically means that two lingered on LaMelo

688
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: ball for a second. So yeah, you're still moving and

689
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: having to get your feet set. So there's like a

690
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: footwork element that's similar, But you're typically open on that

691
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: kind of shot. Right, a transition three, you're typically open

692
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: on that kind of shot. You're trailing to play the

693
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: defenses and set. You're open, right, even pick and roll

694
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: ball screens or ball screen types of shots, Like a

695
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: lot of times you're only taking that because you don't

696
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: want to just like take a pull up three all

697
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the damn time early in the clock. Usually you're taking

698
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: that because you're very open, like a botched coverage this

699
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: guy went under, or the big is just way too

700
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: far back when you're running some sort of like movement

701
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: three play, So like con starting in the corner and

702
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: he's sprinting off of a dribble handoff or off of

703
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: some sort of wide pin down, he's probably seeing a

704
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: lock and trail there when he's seeing a lock and

705
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: trail there there's back pressure, which is fundamentally different than

706
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: slipping out of a ghost screen. Right you slip out

707
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: of a ghost screen, you're wide open. You run off

708
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: of a dho or off of a wide pin down,

709
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: there's a guy running behind and going like this over

710
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: the top and kind of distracting you from behind as

711
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to shoot. You're also going to see you know,

712
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: it's a similar to pick and roll, where you're going

713
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: to see the big either at the level or not.

714
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: But there's an attached lock and trail defender that's back

715
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: pressuring on those attempts. You're going to see less of

716
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: that on transition threes. Slipping out of ghost screens pick

717
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: and rolls a little different. And that's what we'll talk about.

718
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Like that's if you're looking for something that bodes well

719
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: for con on these types of shots, it's that he

720
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: has shot well out of pick and roll. But again

721
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: twenty six for eighty four, on those specific shots, there's

722
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a physical development piece to this, Like how

723
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: do you counter that it's a physical thing, So like

724
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: getting separation before the dribble handoff or before the wide

725
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: pin down that's like physically getting into your defender and

726
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: creating that initial separation by like kind of pushing off,

727
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: but not in the way that gets you an offensive foul,

728
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: so like kind of walking into him and giving him

729
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: that shoulder and then cutting off, getting just those little

730
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: extra bits of separation before you come off the screen.

731
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: And then there's a lift element. It's very much a

732
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: more athletic shot to sprint into a shot off of

733
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: a wide pin down or off of a dribble handoff.

734
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: We talked about this with the gap between twenty fifteen

735
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Steph in twenty sixteen Steph. There's a leg strength element

736
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: that can manifest in a huge improvement in jump shooting,

737
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: which I think we'll see from Con over the years.

738
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: And again pick and roll in particular is an example

739
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: of him hitting that type of shot. The footwork is similar,

740
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Like if I settle into a three off of a

741
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: pick and roll, it's typically on the move a right

742
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: left if I'm going left, and a left right if

743
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm going right, And that's the exact same footwork if

744
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm running off of a dho or if I'm running

745
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: off of a wide pin down. And so I do

746
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: think he'll eventually figure that piece out. Those are the

747
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: toughest shots that any movement shooter will take thirty one

748
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: percent right now. Probably needs to get into the high

749
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: thirties there in order to make those actions a little

750
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: bit more productive. Again, the shooting ability creates all sorts

751
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: of havoc for opposing defenses. He's similar to Cooper and

752
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: that he's very good at making simple reads like, oh,

753
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: you show at the level, here's the pocket pass, Like oh,

754
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm curling and the bigest kind of focused on me

755
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: and the rollers getting behind, they're tagging him. Let me

756
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: make that skip to the corner right, or like I'm

757
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: curling around the action and instead of showing at the level,

758
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: they're showing with nail help. Okay, here's a swing pass

759
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: off to the wing. He's very good at those simple reads.

760
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of positivity that comes from those

761
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: acts in terms of offensive rebounding. We've talked about this

762
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot with the Hornets in recent weeks. You show

763
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: at the level not just con but with Brandon Miller

764
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: or with LaMelo ball, that means the roller can get behind.

765
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: If the roller can get behind, he has inside position

766
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: for offensive rebounding. That's a huge part of why Charlotte's

767
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: been so good on the offensive glass. And again, this

768
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: overall value goes so much deeper than the mad threes

769
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: because of those advantages. The advantage that creates with the

770
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: roller getting behind or hitting the pocket pass or making

771
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: that skip pass, those are advantages that can lead to

772
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of spot up opportunities. Spot up opportunities are

773
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: the most efficient play type that's not at the rim

774
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: in the NBA right because it's usually just to catch

775
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: and shoot three for a guy who's going to hit

776
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: it at a pretty high percentage. So there's all sorts

777
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: of trickle down effects there at the offensive rebounding and

778
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: it shows in the numbers. Again, this was the twenty

779
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: ninth rank to offense in the NBA last year. Now

780
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: they're top ten. Not all con but I do think

781
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: he plays a huge role in that success. Time to

782
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: get nitpicky, he turns the ball over more than Cooper,

783
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: even though he's on the ball less. You guys saw

784
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: this in the Atlanta and Houston games recently, for example,

785
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: he had some issues with traps. This is something that

786
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: we've actually seen a lot with KHN where when you're

787
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: that good of a shooter, you're gonna see some traps.

788
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where like they're trying to

789
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: take a skill that you're great at jump shooting and

790
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: remove it from the equation and take a skill that

791
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily great at, which is like handling aggressive

792
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: ball pressure and making you essentially address and face that

793
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: specific skill. Right. And so when you're seeing these traps,

794
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of examples of him turning the

795
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: ball over against that aggressive pressure that he sees. There.

796
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: The main thing I want to see here is him

797
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: learn how to use his size better. Again, the second

798
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: piece of this archetype is that he's actually really big.

799
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: He's got and he's got such a wide frame that

800
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I think he will, you know, as he builds out

801
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: his NBA body. This is a guy who's going to

802
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: be a damn tank when he's you know, twenty seven

803
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: years old. And so that is where that is. One

804
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: of the best ways to handle pressure is to basically

805
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: protect the basketball with your size. There are a lot

806
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: of guys around the NBA. I mean, even Steph has

807
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: struggled with this at times, where like he can turn

808
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: the ball over against traps because he doesn't have a

809
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: size element that he can lean on to help him

810
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: in those situations. I've seen this with Austin Reeves with

811
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers, But like Luca can handle ball pressure really

812
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: well because he's so damn good at just using his

813
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: size protect the basketball, stick your hips out, stick your

814
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: ass out, find a way to shield yourselves that you

815
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: can dribble the basketball. And those are the kinds of

816
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: things that Cooper will learn over the years to get

817
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: better at that. Specifically the defensive end. He's primarily tucked

818
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: on a catch and shoot guy, so most of his

819
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: in the flow reps on defense are basic off ball reps.

820
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Help recover, box out. The one thing I've seen with

821
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: the boxing out, and again, he's a solid rebounder six

822
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: point two rebounds per thirty six. He's scrappy, he's got

823
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: a high motor, he's got good size. The one thing

824
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: I've seen some on occasion this season is like he

825
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: will sometimes over index on boxing out and not necessarily

826
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: pursuing the basketball, and sometimes he'll give up offensive rebound

827
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: where like the shot will go up and he'll turn

828
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: and face the guy and like get into like almost

829
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: looking like an offensive lineman and he'll set up for

830
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: a box out, but the dude who's coming at him

831
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: has a good angle on seeing where the ball's going,

832
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: and then like he'll just make a quick move and

833
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: just kind of whip around him and go beat him

834
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: to the basketball. So like, I think there's a little

835
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: bit of like a turn and look identify, you know,

836
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: then turn and identify the basketball and go get the basketball.

837
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: Those are things that I just think he'll get a

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: little bit better at. I'm being super nitpicky here. I

839
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: think he's generally a good rebounder. The one thing that

840
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: you'll see on defense is he'll get picked on on switches.

841
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: But this is super typical. This happens to every other

842
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: white guy in the NBA, including even good defenders, Like

843
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, like Austin Reeves for examples,

844
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: a guy that like generally I view as an above

845
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: average defender. But he's gonna get picked on a lot

846
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: because not only is he that classic white dude that

847
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: the NBA players like to pick on, but also because

848
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: he's a skill guard. And what's the one, the number

849
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: one type of defensive target around the NBA, the skill guard.

850
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: That's what teams are always it's either the slow footed

851
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: big or the skill guard. Those are the two kinds

852
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: of guys that defenses are constantly looking to target. That's

853
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of just part of the game as we dig

854
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: into it. He actually holds up pretty well on ISOs,

855
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Like on dribble drives from the perimeter, he's defended fifty

856
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: seven of those this year and he's allowed just forty

857
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: seven points zero point eighty three points per possession. That's

858
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: the sixty ninth percentile. It really just comes down to

859
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: he's pretty good at giving space and reading which angle

860
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: you're trying to take as the driver, and beating to

861
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: the spot in absorbing contact, like he got to stop

862
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: against Donovan Mitchell in the Cavs game where Donovan drove

863
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: and spun over his left shoulder, and like, con just

864
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: did his job beating him to the spot, forcing him

865
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: to make something over the top he ended up missing.

866
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: It's a shot he can make, but that's positional defense.

867
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: It's less about making a guy uncomfortable and more about

868
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: making him take one of the tougher shots that he

869
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: is capable of taking and making right. So, like he's

870
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: actually done pretty well in those situations where he's been

871
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: vulnerable is actually duck ins. So he's been attacked by

872
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: bigger forwards quite a bit this year. We saw in

873
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: the Pistons game, we saw Tobias Harris go after him

874
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: a couple times, including for the game icing basket when

875
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: they were up by four. ISOs him on the right block,

876
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: ends up hitting like a little jump shot over the top.

877
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: We saw Luka Doncic go after him in the post

878
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: quite a bit in the Laker game. He'll get ducked

879
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: in by a center every now and again, Like that's

880
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: one thing that he struggled with. He's given up twenty

881
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: eight made baskets in forty three post defense possessions, so

882
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: really bad on that front specifically, Really though, he should

883
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: be better at that because he's big, and this is

884
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: not the skill guard like an Austin Reeves or a

885
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson where he just has no chance to hold

886
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: his ground against the power attack like CON's big, and

887
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: so really you just got to learn how to attack

888
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: and hold, like hold his ground and attack the base

889
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: like that's when you're going up against larger defenders, the

890
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: best thing you can do is fight them off of position,

891
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: or excuse me, larger offensive players. You want to fight

892
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: them off positions. You want to get them to start

893
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: their attacks as far away from the basket as possible,

894
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: And then you're not gonna bother them up top. These

895
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: guys are bigger than you. They're not gonna buy, You're

896
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: not gonna cause any sort of discomfort up top. But

897
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: what you can do is you can disrupt the base.

898
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: All these guys work on short range shots, right hooks

899
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: over the left shoulder, fadeaways over the right shoulder, some

900
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: sort of over the top type of shot that they're

901
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: looking to use in that sort of situation if they

902
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: can't just bury you right under the basket right. So

903
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: in those situations, if you let them get into their footwork,

904
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: they practice this shit too much, they're gonna make the shot.

905
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: But if you can disrupt the footwork, if you can

906
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: disrupt the base, it throws off their routine. Now it's

907
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: not like they're in the gym shooting by themselves. Now,

908
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're not getting as much lyft.

909
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: When they don't get as much lift, that puts more

910
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: emphasis on the top of the shot. Now that looks

911
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: different than when they're shooting in the gym by themselves,

912
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: you can force some misses there, and so CON's got

913
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: the natural frame to be better at that. He just

914
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,479
Speaker 1: needs to figure it out over the coming years. Again

915
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: attacking the base so that you can hold up better

916
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: against larger offensive players. Overall, not really an impact defender

917
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, but he is a guy

918
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: that I think can very much be a functioning part

919
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: of an elite defense and he has. Charlotte's been a

920
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: very good defense over the course of the last month

921
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: or so, and he's been a part of that. Again,

922
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: its size, it's just IQ being in the right spot,

923
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: understanding what his role is defensively, holding up reasonably well

924
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: in one on ones, at least on dribble drives, and

925
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: then defensive rebounding is a legit value add for any

926
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: sort of defensive player. We've talked about that, it's one

927
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: of the most important parts of defense. Very simply. Teams

928
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: around the NBA are collecting somewhere between twenty five percent

929
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: and the third of their own misses. You know that's

930
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: going to influence offensive ratings. If you can limit that,

931
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: that's every bit is good. As like if you give

932
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: up a couple of buckets and one on ones, but

933
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: you secure two or three defensive rebounds that another player doesn't.

934
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: That kind of offsets a little bit. There's real value there,

935
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: and so overall, I think he's fine as a you know,

936
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth best defender in a lineup. He's just

937
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: not the impact defender that a guy like Cooper Flag is.

938
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, it's all I have for today. That

939
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: was fun. I really enjoyed digging into Cooper and con today,

940
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: two really really high level players at the top of

941
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: last year's draft. We'll kind of periodically check in on

942
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: these guys throughout the rest of the season. I do

943
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about Cedric Coward and

944
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: I do want to talk a little bit about VJ.

945
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Edge come just on a different day. I just wanted

946
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: to focus on these two particular guys today. Tomorrow we're

947
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: going to be focusing on the top of this upcoming draft.

948
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: I really want to do kind of a similar type

949
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: of breakdown on AJ Debonsa and on Darren Peterson, and

950
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: we'll see what I decide when I dig into it

951
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: more tomorrow. But like my gut is telling me, Darren

952
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: at number one, I want to get into those reasons

953
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: why tomorrow and then again we have our mail bag

954
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: on Friday, and then we'll be back to game reactions

955
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and our typical power rankings and all that fun stuff

956
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: that we usually have in our routine when we get

957
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: back on Monday. All right, guys, it's all I have

958
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: for today. It's always as sincerely appreciate you guys for

959
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: supporting us and supporting the show, and we will see

960
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: you tomorrow morning.