1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: My guest today is Matt Plumbo, author of several books, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: including The Man Behind the Curtain, Inside the Secret Network 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: of George Soros, and the upcoming book The Air Inside 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: the Not So Secret Network of Alex Soros. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: I met, so nice to have you on. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: So the Soros family up to no good. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: It sounds like a bunch of jerks, those sorrows people, 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah. I've been interested in the father George 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: since I think I around twenty ten, back when I 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: was in high school watching Glenn Beck's show and he 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: would break out all the Soros connections and it was 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: sort of yeah, you know, on my radar since then. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: And then in twenty twenty one, my publisher pitched an 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: idea of why don't you dive into the Soros sphere 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: and try to make a book out of it? And 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: I thought, well, I know that I remember that guy 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: from like it's eleven or so years prior, so I 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, started investigating him then, and it became the 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: only thing I wrote about that anyone really cared about. 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: So I just decided all right, ex this is you know, 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: I'll be the Soros guy from now on. But it 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: culminated it in a book, and that book probably got 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: me more opportunities than anything else I've ever written. It 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: really helped me break into Fox and then you know, 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: other media appearances through you know, other people who had 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: seen me there. And now a number of years has 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: gone by. It's been I guess four years since I 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: started writing that book. And then I decided, all right, 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: let's look him to Alex do that he's taken over. 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 2: What do people misunderstand about the Sorrows Family. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, I don't really think much. Actually, it's one of 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: those rare cases where you can be in the Internet 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: comment section and there's something that looks like, you know, 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: a schizophrenic, conspiratorial comment about Sorrows, and then you look 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: into it and you're like, it's just ninety five percent accurate. 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: All right, you know, there's some random capitalization in there. 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: We could work on it, but besides that, you're totally right. No, 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: he he really is. You know, the left calls him 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: a boogeyman and you know, mocking us, but I call 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: a boogeyman because that's what the evidence suggests he is. 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: He's given thirty two billion dollars of his own money 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: to his so called Opens Society Foundation, of which twenty 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: five billion is being left to Alex. And that doesn't 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: mean he's only spent the difference obviously, that down what's 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: growing money and so on and so forth, and sorrows 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 3: the father seven billion still in his own name. But yeah, 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: it's quite the empire. And it's you know, even beyond 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: the money, he has a return on influence with just 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: knowing every politician out there. In the book about George, 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: I went through every person who was either a board 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: member of a Soros founded or heavily funded organization, and 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: what news organizations they've also been on the board of. 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: And it's basically, yeah, basically everything minus Fox Newsmax and 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: the Carol Mark Winz Show. 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: We can assure you of. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: That, yes, guarantee. 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Do you find that Alex is an ideologue. 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Like his father, Like George Soros really believes in this stuff. 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: It's not like he just you know, found a way 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: to be famous, I think, right. 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you could correct me if I'm wrong. 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: He really does believe in not penalizing criminals or all 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the other kind of leftist causes that he takes up. 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Is Alex the same, so he is more I guess pragmatic. 67 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: We could say in that there was a recent New 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: York magazine article about Alex that actually made him look 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: worse than I was expecting. 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: God that was I don't. 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: Know why they did it dirty. They did it dirty, 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: but he kind of deserved it. But they were talking 73 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: about how, under George Soros's leadership, you know, the sort 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: of mission statement of the Open Society vision which was 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: outlined by a philosopher named Carl Popper that George studied 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: under everything would be viewed in that prism of how 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: does it conform to this? How does it advance of 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: this right? Alex is much more general. Does it advance 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: or interests or not? I don't care if it's through 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: this prism, you know it would you know, sort of 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: like how you know, people with more libertarian views might 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: start with the question of does this fit in the 83 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: libertarian framework as opposed to does it help my end goal, 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: even if the end goal itself is libertarian. Kind Of 85 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: in that way, I guess I would say, so Alex 86 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: is less constrained by that philosophy than his father, although 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: he wants to advance the same thing. He's just not 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: going to handicap himself, you know, in anywhere or box 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: himself in. 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: Does that make him more dangerous? It seems like it might. 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: So I argue that you know, at the bare minimum, 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: he's as radical as his father, and that I think 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: everything in the Open Society Foundation is doing will continue 94 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: on autopilot. Although I don't know if he can be 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: as dangerous because he leaves a paper trail, and I 96 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: don't know if it's like that quote from The Big 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: Short where he says, you know, they're not confessing, they're bragging. 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: But every single thing he does, he puts there on 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: social media, where I think that helped so much with 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: the book, where. 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: I just follow the tweets, I just I went through. 102 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: I felt like I almost felt like I was like 103 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: a cyberstalker. But I went through every single photo he 104 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: had uploaded to his Facebook, and it there was so 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: much things I would have never looked into, Like I'm like, 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: all right, he's talking to the former Prime Minister of 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: North Macedonia, Let's see what happened there, and and I 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: would just sort of look into what was his father 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: doing there, And even if there were things that weren't 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: reported on in our media, I would just google, like 111 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: what are the top twenty publications in X, y and 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Z foreign country, and I would get the articles translated, 113 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: and there was like a wealth of information in foreign 114 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: countries that no one had really reported on in America. 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: I got almost a twenty thousand word chapter about Albania, 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I didn't know this country. I know 117 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: it's the country four or five years ago, and now 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is bamaranhit Soros guy. But no, he 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: left a pretty big trail for me. And I do wonder, 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: you know, is that a hundred percent of who is 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: meeting or is it fifty? Is a ten percent? I 122 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: mean that's the bare minimum. 123 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Right. 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: He is a millennial, so it's like he does feel 125 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: like he has to tell everybody everything on his social media. 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: So it does make sense. So what did go down 127 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: in Albania? Give us a preview. 128 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: So it's a lengthy story. Dates back action to the 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: fall of communism. The dictatorship of Enverhosier fell. A different 130 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: socialist communist took his place, but they ended up holding 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: free elections. So the group that ended up winning the 132 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: first elections was the Albanian Democratic Party, which is actually 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: the right wing party in Albania. They have a a 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: Republican Party and a Democratic Party, and the Republican Party 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: is actually a tribute to our GOP and they're both 136 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: right wing parties and college yeah, which I just thought 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: it was like an interesting, you know, historical fact. But 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: the current party right now is the Socialist Party that 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: has ruled for the past I think sixteen or so 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: years that the Socialist Party splintered out of the former 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: rule in Communist at Party, but it's taken over anyway. 142 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: That the guy who leads the country out of socialism 143 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: is a guy named Sally Burusha. I had a lot 144 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: of access to him, which was pretty cool because of 145 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: the first book, and he helped me a lot with 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: this one, and I kind of got, you know, his 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: side of the store, and he was saying that, you know, 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: Sourus came in very early, and you know, we were 149 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: the third rich, porest country in the entire world at 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: the time, you know, more poor than most African countries. 151 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, we just you know, what we typically think 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: of as the poorest, but the third poorest in the 153 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: entire world, and this guy has all this money, so yeah, 154 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: of course we're going to take the money. You know, 155 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: why wouldn't we when we have absolutely nothing. So one 156 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: of the biggest things he was funding there though, was schools, 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: and it got to the point where by the mid 158 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: two thousands, and the Education minister at the time told 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: me there was a joke that George Soros was the 160 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: real Ministry of Education because more than half of all 161 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: the schools the kids are being educated at were run 162 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: by the Open Society Foundation or funded by them. But 163 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: going back to the so Borisia tells me, you know, 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: we're happy with all the money, but then we're realizing 165 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: there is a Yeah, the strongs are attached, and they're 166 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: pushing like his LGBT ideology in a historically Muslim country 167 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: that has no interest in it whatsoever, and just all 168 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: these things. So they end up having a falling out 169 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: and it was you know, they've kind of traded blows 170 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: back and forth in the media. But but anyway, you 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: fast forward to the Biden administration and one of the 172 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: first things that George sort that Anthony Blincoln did was 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: past sanctions against Baritia and dan him from the country. 174 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: And Berisha. Their belief is that Eddie Rama and Soros. 175 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: Edie Rama is a Socialist Party leader who is another 176 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: rival of Barisia, and he is very close friends with Alex. 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: They post photos of each other on social media. There 178 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: are more photos of them together than any other politician 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: anywhere on his page. So anyway, so sanctions to get 180 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: passed against Buritia, there is no explanation of They just 181 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: say collection, but there's no details. Lee Zelden has inquired 182 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: written to the State Department, I think four or so 183 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: times saying please just send us the file on why 184 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: a rub ended up undoing these. By the way, but 185 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: Anthony Blincoln himself George Sorow started a colors called Central 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: European University back in the nineties. There is an archive 187 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: like a library type archive near one of the campuses, 188 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: and it's named after Anthony Blinkol's Terrence because they were 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: very heavy donors to it. So there's a clear connection there. 190 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: It just seemed like the out of nowhere they're they're dragged. 191 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: Into this, correct. Correct. So one of the effects though 192 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: that that had was within the Democratic Party there were 193 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: factions for and against Barcia, some saying this is total bs, 194 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: it's Soros, it's Rama, this is nonsense, and they were 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: for him, and maybe like thirty or forty percent said well, 196 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: we can't have a leader who's under sanctions, especially with 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: the US ally, So it's splinter the Democratic Party into 198 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: multiple parties. Now there is a parliamentary system in Albania, 199 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: meaning you don't vote for people, you vote for parties. 200 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: So you know, in theory, if you get five percent 201 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: of the vote, your party gets five percent of the seats, 202 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: and then you have a party list and you count 203 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: down however many seats that is, and they get sad. 204 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: So a lot of these very fragments of the Democratic 205 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: Party were siphoning off voters share in the last election, 206 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: but they weren't getting enough votes to get seats because 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: it was a minimum threshold of a couple percent. So 208 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot of these wasted votes that helped boost 209 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: the Socialist Party and it, I mean, I think it 210 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: was the Democratic Party's worst ever defeat was just last May, 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: and part of it was because they fractured the party. 212 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: And actually one of the things I missed and there's 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 3: actually I should have led, but this in the middle 214 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: was similar to our justice system. The Open Society Foundation 215 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: pushed constitutional reform and albeitia under the Socialist government, and 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: you know, the end effect of it was, actually it 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: actually should say, this isn't a conspiracy. The OSF has 218 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: documents that outline everything they had done and all their 219 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: suggestions and all that. So it's a known fact that 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: the Socialist Party worked with George Soros on this, but 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: the end of fact was basically ninety percent of all 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: state institutions are now controlled by the Socialist Party. Then 223 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: they started a group called SPACK, which is like an 224 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: anti corruption unit and it it does they have made 225 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: high profile arrests of Socialist leaders. It's just overwhelmingly disproportionately 226 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: goes after opponents of the Socialist government, and it's sort 227 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: of like they target their own, but only selectively, so 228 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: like there've been people very close to Eddie Rama who 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: are known to be corrupt and they get looked into 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: and then nothing happens. But anyway, that was the group 231 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: that ended up supplying our State Department with the charges 232 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: against Boristia. So that's where they came from, and they 233 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: were born out of a George Soros funded organization and 234 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: what else, East West Management Institute actually a lot of 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: people didn't know what that group was, but it made 236 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: a lot of headlines that you know, when people say 237 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 3: George Soros got two hundred and seventy million from us AID, right, 238 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: almost all of that, like two fifty million plus was 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: that one group. And they are run by a woman 240 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: named Delina Fiso, who is Eddie Rama, the socialist leader's 241 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: ex wife. Sore on good terms. Yeah, so they're good, 242 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, and I assume they're on good terms. But yeah, 243 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: so just a lot of these little connections I kept 244 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: finding and I'm like, well, that's interesting and a lot 245 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: of weird thing's going on here. 246 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Is it hard to get people to understand all of it? 247 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Because look, you just told us, like one, just one 248 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: small bit of the Soros funding and corruption and and 249 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, ideology pushing, and it's a lot, I mean, 250 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: even just following just this Albania stories a lot. 251 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: Is it difficult to get people to see. 252 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Kind of the web that the Soros family has weaved 253 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: across the world that really does have them influencing so 254 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: many different facets of society, not just in America but 255 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: across the world. 256 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 3: Well, I know it has to be because there were 257 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: parts of my own book where I was getting confused 258 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: at times, or I'm like, wait, was this the guy 259 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: who did that? Or the guy who did this? Especially 260 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: in a foreign country where it's not like it's not 261 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: Joe Smith, it's like Dmitri Ivanovitch, I'm like, is he 262 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: the that guy? Yeah? So there are few parts in 263 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: the book where I have a float chart annot hated 264 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: saying who's who, who did what? 265 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: So, yes, and I wrote the novels all have the 266 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: flow so that you can follow it we're talking about here. 267 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's why I think the written word is 268 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: the best form, just you can reread stuff. But yeah, 269 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: there are times where when I'm explaining something on TV 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: or in a show, like to me, the script is 271 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: all played out in my head, but I know it 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: as someone watching. If you miss a detail here and there, 273 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 3: it probably makes everything very confusing, right, Yes, I totally 274 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: get it. But yeah, that's one of the good things. 275 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: But having it root, We're going to take a quick 276 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: break and be right back on the Carol Markowitz Show. 277 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Did you always want to be an investigative journalist? 278 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: I wanted to be just a TV pundit for sure. 279 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: I kind of knew from age fourteen or fifteen, I 280 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: would never be happy in life if that wasn't what 281 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: I did really, you know, and I just decided, all right, 282 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: well how do I achieve this? And it seemed like 283 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: everyone had a book. So when I was sixteen, it's 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: the first thing I started doing was drafting a book. 285 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: The first three went absolutely nowhere. I probably sold I 286 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: don't know, five hundred copies are less, which you know, 287 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: the return on you know, the amount of hours that 288 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: teaks is you know, seemingly depressing. But it got my 289 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: foot in the door for a lot bigger opportunities. And 290 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, when you go to apply for a writing 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: job and you have a book, even if no one 292 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: read it, still you're at the top of the list. Yeah. Yeah, 293 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: So it was one of those things where actually I 294 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: heard this saying it was I don't know if it's 295 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: like a parable where you know, a guy is talking 296 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: to he gets his pictured on by a street artist 297 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: in New York City and the guy says, you know, 298 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: it's going to be a hundred bucks. And the guy 299 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: says one hundred bucks or thirty minutes of your time, 300 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: and he goes, no, it was it was ten thousand 301 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: hours and thirty minutes of Time's right. That's kind of 302 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: the principle is you have to do a lot of 303 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: things up front that seem to have no payoff, but 304 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: then when it does payoff, you realize, oh, well, I 305 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: would have never been here if it wasn't for everything 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: before it. 307 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: What do you worry about the unknown? 308 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: So I think there are sort of known unknowns, and 309 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: those are things that are inevitable in life. Like you know, 310 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: on a long enough timeline, everyone is probably going to 311 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: be have an unexpected job loss or something at some point, 312 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: and I try to hedge against everything like that, and 313 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: you know, in whatever realm of life. But the known 314 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: unknowns are things like, you know, someone getting into a 315 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: car accident or just some low probability event. And you know, 316 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: I know you and I I think are both poker players, 317 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: and we know that uh five percent are basically in 318 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: the same number for some reason. So yeah, just things 319 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: like that that you cannot control. It's absolutely not like 320 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: things like even if I was the best driver in 321 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: the in the world, like I can't control someone else 322 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: driving draws or things like that. So just any unknown 323 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: unknown really. 324 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Has poker helped you at all in your work, do 325 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you could read people better? 326 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I'm I don't know if I'm 327 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: good or not? Is the thing like whatever, I'm not good? 328 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: I feel like it's helpful. I feel like it's helpful 329 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: in my everyday life, Like I feel like I can. 330 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Read people in a way that and I don't know 331 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: if I could read people and that's why I was 332 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: pretty good at poker or you know, the poker skill 333 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: is what I use in life. 334 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: But that definitely has helped. 335 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: It made me realize you have to bluff in life. 336 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's like you have to realize, 337 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: like when does the bluff make sense? Like if you're 338 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: gonna make a leg, if you're gonna make a legal threat, 339 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: it's like, well, in theory, if you have a legal case, 340 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: you just do it anyway, So does it make as 341 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: much sense of there? But if I can't think we 342 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: know the scenario. But but there are just times where 343 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: you strategically you have to kind of bs in life 344 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: to get with you to RaSE. 345 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you get to fold. 346 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah if you know what to fold, yeah, yeah, no, 347 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: it definitely is a poker is sort of a metaphor 348 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: for life in different ways. 349 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: For sure. I used to keep a running list of 350 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: all the ways that it was. But then a professional 351 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: poker player set out as a dork and to stop 352 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 2: doing that. 353 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Place it's the only profession where you can lose money 354 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: and be a pro. 355 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 356 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: What advice would you give your sixteen year old self? Like, 357 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: what would Matt Palumbo of sixteen years old need to know? 358 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: I would say that whoever said high school is the 359 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: best four years of your life is a total loser. 360 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 3: So it's the worst saying I've ever heard. You know, 361 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: whatever you want in life, to start working towards it now. 362 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: There is there is no benefit in holding off in anything. 363 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: And this could be something like you know, if you think, 364 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: oh I should eat better or drink less. You know, 365 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: if you're telling yourself I'll do it next week, well 366 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: twenty years from now, it's not gonna like what are 367 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: you going to think back and be like, thank god 368 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: I waited that extra week? No, if you want to, 369 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. If you want to learn a foreign language, 370 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: like just to start now, what's the point in waiting? 371 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: I remember it was a story from a friend who's 372 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: it was like on the fence about being a doctor. 373 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: Like his mother was like, you know, you really should 374 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: go for it, and he's like, yeah, but it's gonna 375 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: take eight years, and she says, well, eight years is 376 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: going to pass anyway, Like you're gonna okay, so eight 377 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: years ago not a doctor who you are, Like, the 378 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: time doesn't make a difference, it's gonna happen. 379 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: So basically that's very. 380 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: Good, so just start everything today. There is And also 381 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: whenever you don't feel like doing something for some reason 382 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: is when you should do it. Like if you're on 383 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: the couch and you're feeling lazy and you're like, the 384 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: last thing I want to do is go to the gym. 385 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: For some reason, going to the gym feels better when 386 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: you do that. And I guess the last thing would 387 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: be consistency with anything. And this is more of a 388 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: mental thing, but like I'm trying to learn a foreign 389 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: language right now, and I'm learning that Albanian. Oh yeah, 390 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: that makes my wife is fluent in it, and I'm 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: learning I'm learning a different dialect though than her, so 392 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: we might well both speak it and like barely be 393 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: able to talk to each other, but I try to 394 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, section off thirty minutes to an hour a day, 395 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: and I have an app on my phone that kind 396 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: of gamifies it. But even if I can't do that, 397 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: if I have, if I'm waiting in line for three 398 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: minutes and I know that's all that's free time, I'm 399 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: gonna have I bust out the app and just do 400 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: it while I'm waiting, like just to have mentally that 401 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: I was able to do it every day in a row. 402 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: For some reason, when when I reset that timer, the 403 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: incentive to then do it, it's as if I'm starting 404 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: from zero. That might just be my psychology, but I 405 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: don't know. I just feel like repetition and and I 406 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: don't know, it's like having a high score in your head. 407 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: Sort of Albanian that is, I've been studying it for years, 408 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: but I've been only doing. 409 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: Not related to the sorrow story. 410 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: We're talking about the book in twenty twenty two. So 411 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: I took maybe ten hours of lessons before I went there, 412 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: and then after I figured like, I'm not ever going back, 413 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: so what's the point. And then I coincidentally met a 414 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: woman who's Albanian that you know, so so I kind 415 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: of started going hard on it. Again. So I, you know, 416 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: met up with my old tutor and she's like, do 417 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: you have a thing for a yeah, and I'm like, no, 418 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: it's just a coincidence. But you know, I guess we do. 419 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: But so I don't. I think I'd probably a lot, 420 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: like one hundred hours of online lessons and then a 421 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: lot of it. Just like when I'm playing poker, I 422 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: just have a lection on in the background, and I 423 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: don't know how much of that I pick up, but 424 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: better than nothing. I just I kind of learned at 425 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: least one word a day basically, you know, if you know, 426 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: if I have no time for anything, it's just or all. 427 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 3: Even like when I'm looking around the house, I'm like, 428 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: all right, I don't know what paper towel is called. 429 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: They'llo get up later. Like I just try to identify 430 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: every particle of so little thing I try to look up. 431 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: But why wouldn't you learn the same dialect as your wife? 432 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: Because hers is so she's from Kosovo, which was part 433 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: of Serbia for a while but always an autonomous region, 434 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: and the dialect that she speaks is more of like 435 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: a sort of rural mountain countryside dialect that not very 436 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: many people speak. And I speak that's the most common 437 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: It's called gag. It's the most commonly dialect, exactly like Shakespeare. 438 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: But the biggest city in Kosovo, her home country, speaks 439 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: the same. So she told me, and this is her words. 440 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: She said, it's like speaking like the Geto version. But 441 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: good bye. So I don't know, I guess that's awesome. 442 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: It's I don't I'm kind of enjoying it. I don't know. 443 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's I don't know, like more 444 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: impressive than learning like a commonly spoken language, even though it's. 445 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: You know, you're still learning one, definitely, And the fact 446 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: that you and your wife will speak different dialects of 447 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: it is really. 448 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Will speak Yes English and then two different versions. 449 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 2: For being mean, well, I love this conversation. You are 450 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: super interesting. This has been really excellent. 451 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Leave us here with a tip from my listeners on 452 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: how they can improve their lives. 453 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, don't get advice when people like 454 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: me could be something. 455 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: No, don't learn Albanian in a different dialect from your order. 456 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, it's probably not the best 457 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: use of your time. Channel that to self improvement in 458 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: another way. I don't know, I think a lot of 459 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: the stuff I said earlier probably factors into that. You know, 460 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: be consistent, set goals, start everything now. If you don't 461 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: feel like doing something, do it anyway. And I mean 462 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: that when it's you know, something good, not you know 463 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: not not. If you don't feel doing this, if you 464 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: don't feel like doing evil, don't do that. Anything that 465 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: you know is something you should be doing but don't 466 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: feel like, just do it. And yeah, that's it. 467 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: And also pre order my book, yes, pre order is 468 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: his name is Matt Plumbo is fantastic. The book is 469 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: called The Air Inside the Not So Seek Network of 470 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: Alex Soros. 471 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: Pre Order it now anywhere you buy your books. Thank 472 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: you so much for coming on, Matt. 473 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: My pleasure went very fast.