1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: There we go. Look at this, that's Joe Musgrove. Hi, Joe, 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: great to see you, Joe, Darren, Darren, Joe, it's been 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: a you said, you sound great. You look great, the 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: bright yellow and I love these colors. You're popping here. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: I found the right backdrop for you. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: You've found the great back Welcome to the debut show. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: My my new co host on Friar Territory on the 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network, that is Darren Smith. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: So what's going on? Darren? 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: Take it away, Joe, it's been too long. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: How you been. I'm doing well, man, doing well. Nice 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: to be back in camp. 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like the radio show now, except you know, 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: you can cuss and not get us in trouble. So 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: that's all good. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: There we go. Love that. 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Like Marty said, you look good man, these spring training colors. 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: I gotta say it like seriously, like they are popping. 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they look good. 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: Man, sure, absolutely, Actually chus it feel? 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: How do I feel? I feel pretty good man. You know, 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm I'm back at one hundred percent. 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm done with this rehab or I 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: don't consider myself done with the rehab yet I think 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: this is going to kinda kind of be an ongoing 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: thing for who knows how long. But you know, my 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: perspective on a lot of things is like, in the end, 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to get where I want, and if I'm 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: not where I want, it's not the end. I'll just 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: kind of keep working until I feel like I'm in 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: a spot where I don't have to think about this anymore. 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: I don't have to put the same amount of time 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: and hours into getting myself ready, and I can kind 34 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: of just go out and perform. But I feel good 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 4: right now, balls coming out of my hand good. I 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: don't feel like I have, you know, many hesitations with 37 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 4: a lot of my stuff. I feel like it's, you know, 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: it's plain how I want it to play. I'm seeing 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: the metrics and the movement that i want to see. 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: So I feel like I'm in a good spot. For 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: February eighteenth, Joe, you threw it about if I'm true, 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: I'm for reason, dude, So I'm sorry if I'm chattering 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: a little bit. 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Joe, you threw you threw in a backfield. I think 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: on Monday, right, I think you and Michael King r 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: on the same field when all this on the chaos 47 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: was breaking at Padre's camp with Adripoler's extension. What were 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: you able to do and what was it like just 49 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: being back through on the mound again. 50 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my first time facing hitters again in 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: sixteen months, I think something like that. So yeah, a 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: lot of excitement and I think, you know, for me, 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: it was mentally preparing myself for the excitement and the 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: adrenaline and making sure I kind of pulled the reins 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: back on myself and cut myself under control and just 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: use this as, if you know, an opportunity to get 57 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: some hitters in the box and see some reactions, see 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: some swings against my stuff, but not go out there 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: and try to be a hero and impress people in 60 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: my first time back, just mainly you know, check some 61 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: boxes off and you know, kind of take that next 62 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: step forward. 63 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: John, I'd like to follow up on that. I mean, 64 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: I think that we know physically, you know, how difficult 65 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: it must be to go through what you just went 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: through and to work your way back, and how rewarding 67 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: it must feel to be back where you should belong. 68 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: Can you talk to us a little bit about mental 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: challenge though of what you had to go through, because 70 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: I think the physical stuff, you know, we all sort 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: of have a grasp of it, but mentally, like, what 72 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: is that like to have to go through everything you 73 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: went through, even just to get back to this point 74 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: and then also to continue where you want to go? 75 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like I handled it pretty well. 76 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: I think the most important thing is, you know, the 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: perspective going into the surgery. You know, I was fortunate 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: to have like maybe a seven to ten day window 79 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: between the injury and the surgery, uh where I got 80 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: to kind of go through and experience all the emotions 81 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of feel sorry for myself for 82 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: a minute, you know, and then pick myself back up 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: and look at what I had ahead of me, and 84 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: you know, start mentally preparing for that, knowing that's going 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: to be challenging. There's going to be times where I 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: don't feel great. There's going to be frustrating times where 87 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: I can't figure out what I need to fix to 88 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: get myself feeling better. But I think the preparation going 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: into that allowed me to you know, have a consistent, 90 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: you know, one track mindset of you know, just constantly 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: progressing and being okay with having a bad day and 92 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: not letting affect me mentally, I think was the most 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: important thing. Like physically, the days were very unpredictable. You know, 94 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: there was a good stretch of time where I just 95 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: couldn't understand why I'd wake up feeling amazing some days 96 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: and some days I couldn't grab the bill of my hat. 97 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: I was in so much pain. So it was frustrating, 98 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: it was difficult, But I think mentally I prepared myself 99 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: for all those things, and that allowed me to kind 100 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: of take it with a grain of salt and just 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: keep moving forward and you know, not not get hung 102 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: up too much on you know, the occasional bad days 103 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: or the bad stretches. So I think one of the 104 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: most difficult things is as the deadline for you know, 105 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: the end of last year coming up and the possibility 106 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: of maybe pitching in the postseason, you know, not feeling 107 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: great in that last month and a half leading into 108 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: that was starting to like wear on me a little 109 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: bit because you know, I knew where I needed to get, 110 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: and like as that date came closer and closer, it seemed, 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: you know, further and further away a physically, like it 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: just seemed unattainable, and you know, I would a little 113 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: bit of love to see us go further into playoffs, 114 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: but I think having us eliminated and not having the 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: opportunity to pitch was probably best for me, because you know, 116 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: if we make it to the CS and into the 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 4: World Series, I could very well see myself forcing my 118 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: way into those games and you know, maybe lying a 119 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: little bit about how I felt just to be a 120 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: part of it. So probably best. 121 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: For me that I didn't pitch. 122 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was just wanting the results so bad 123 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: and not getting them was like the very difficult, you know, 124 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: frustrating part, especially with the work I was putting in. Man, 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: I was I was working and working and working and 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: like putting in doubles every day to make sure I 127 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: had a chance to pitch in the postseason, and it 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: just things weren't turning around how I wanted to, so frustrating. 129 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt you there, but you're like, you're 130 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the ultimate team guy. And when you knew that Michael King, 131 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't know his status, but he was 132 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: going to make it back for the postseason, and you, 133 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Darvis was bulding something. Did you try to put more 134 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: pressure on yourself to come back because of what other 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: guys in your rotation were going through. 136 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: Not so much. Not so much for that reason. I 137 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: mean maybe a little bit of it, maybe, like subconsciously, 138 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: I felt like that was part of my job, was to, 139 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: you know, step up and fill that role, and I 140 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: think a lot of people were kind of counting on me. 141 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: And it's hard because I guess, back to your last question, 142 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: one of the hardest things is having people constantly ask you, 143 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: you know, how you feeling, are you going to be back? 144 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: Are you going to be ready? 145 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: And trying to answer that honestly, it was very hard 146 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: because if I was honest, I wasn't be like, hell, no, 147 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: I feel like shit, you know, but maybe I won't 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: feel like shit in a week. Maybe I will feel 149 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: better in a month, but just kind of lying to 150 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: people and be like, yeah, I feel good. 151 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'm in a good spot. 152 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: You know, stuff's coming out, and my bullpens were good, 153 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: but it was the recovery, Like I wasn't bouncing back 154 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: from those feeling very good. So trying to be honest 155 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: with people was very difficult. But yeah, towards the end 156 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 4: of the stretch, it was more of a personal, a 157 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: personal thing that was, you know, eating at me. 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Thank you to 193 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: seek geek. 194 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: And can I just ask a follow up on that, Joe, 195 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: just generally speaking, not specific to the injury, but just 196 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: like the mental side of the game, the mental side 197 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: of dealing with what comes with being. 198 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: A big leaguer. 199 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: Right, we all hear the all the great benefits of 200 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: travel and money and all that sort of stuff, and 201 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: it sounds amazing, but there is another side of it, 202 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: is that something over your career that you've worked on, 203 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: like do you do you do anything you know, as 204 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: much as you work physically to get yourself prepared for 205 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: these games, are there things that you've learned over the 206 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: span of your career that have helped prepare you mentally 207 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: for the job that you have. 208 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 209 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: I've worked with, you know, a number of different people 210 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: over my career. But one of the things I started 211 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: when when I was fourteen years old was a program 212 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: called Hefling, and this was a it's a form of 213 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: tempo karate that's less about the martial arts aspect and 214 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: more about the mindset aspect. This guy, Gus has the 215 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: short version of this is a guy named Gus Hefling, 216 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: goes over to China, lives there for nine ten years 217 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: and studies with the Sila Warriors, who were a group 218 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: of warriors that protected the Chinese emperor. And they used 219 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: to go through this training program every day that they 220 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: would do for forty five minutes before they got into 221 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: their martial arts and it was like a warm up 222 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: program for them. So there is a very physical aspect 223 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: to it, but the idea is that you're locking the 224 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: mind in and you're focusing on each individual movement you know, 225 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: as its own thing, and you know staying focused on 226 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: the tasket hand and not letting the outside or inside 227 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: interferences affect that tasket hand. And this is a program 228 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: I started doing at fourteen years old, and back then, 229 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: I think I saw it more as like a physical 230 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: training thing. 231 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: You know. 232 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: I was just always pushing to, you know, to physically 233 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: get myself in good shape and you know, be the 234 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: best at it. And I didn't really understand what the 235 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: purpose of the workout was as I got older, and 236 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: I've continued to do this program, you know, since I 237 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: was fourteen. Now I'm understanding what the purpose of it 238 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: is and how you can challenge yourself mentally to stay 239 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: focused during this entire workout and not let your mind wander, 240 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, not anticipate how long is this exercise going 241 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: to last, or what exercises next, or maybe I can 242 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: take a little break here because it's getting hard and 243 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: I know there's more to come. So it's really like 244 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: self awareness and finding out, you know, where you kind 245 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: of set traps for yourself and how you'll convince yourself 246 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: out of doing certain things. And it's ultimately like that 247 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: your mind will give up on yourself before your body 248 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: will give up. So that's kind of the basis of 249 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: everything that I do and the foundation of me as 250 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: an athlete. And then since then, I've worked with a 251 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: number of different breath coaches. You know, I did the 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 4: deep end fitness stuff underwater for a couple of years, 253 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: and all those things just you know, create new awarenesses 254 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: and develop different traits that you know, I've been able 255 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: to add into my game. But for me now, it's 256 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: kind of like just become part of me. So everything 257 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: that I do, I kind of take that mindset, whether 258 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 4: it's doing dishes, you know, washing the car. It's like 259 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: I got to try to take a strong, detailed aspect 260 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: and everything that I'm doing, and that stuff just kind 261 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: of becomes who you are and it translates into baseball 262 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: and everything that I do. 263 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: So are you this intense at everything that you approach 264 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: because it it seems like it. It seems like a 265 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: little bit. And by the way, I apologize to you 266 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: for the number of times I asked you last season, Hey, Joe, 267 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think? 268 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: Most seasons? 269 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: No, I feel terrible, like, oh my gosh, harassing you. 270 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Let me just get Marty. I'm feeling great, Marty. 271 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of its teammates too, though. 272 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: I mean, like the guys care for you, and as 273 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: a teammate, you're always you know, your conditioned to like 274 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: check in on your guys and then you know, show 275 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: that you care and that you're curious of where they're at. 276 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: But you know, it becomes more of a hassle than anything. 277 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's I almost want people to just fuck 278 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: off and let me work, you know. But yeah, yeah, 279 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: it is kind of something that I am very intense 280 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: in a lot of things that I do, and I 281 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: try to take pride in everything I do, whether it's 282 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: fold and laundry like I said, or dishes or whatever. 283 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: And like the dish thing came up the other night. Uh, 284 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: my fiance tends to turn tends to look for the 285 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: most efficient and the quickest route to do things. 286 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: And I'll be pissed off. 287 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: If there's you know, grease left on a pan, or 288 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: there's you know, a piece of silverware that's not shining. 289 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: And she's a big she's big on the dishwasher. I'm 290 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 4: a big hand washer. So yeah, it's not it's not 291 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: a very serious thing, but I found myself, you know, 292 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: it's easier for me to stay in this mode than 293 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: it is to turn it on and turn it off, 294 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: you know. 295 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: So it's kind of just become who I am. 296 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: This This like Joe Musgrove, He's just like us. I mean, 297 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: it's like the same exact conversation I have at my 298 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: house about the dishes. But neither here nor there, Joe. 299 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: One are the you know for you coming back now 300 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: coming out? You know, And one of the things I'm 301 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: always also fascinated in is, you know, the trajectory of 302 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: a major league or especially a pitcher right early on 303 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: in your career. I don't know how accurate a site 304 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: like baseball Savona is, but you know, you were kind 305 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: of a different guy than than you were towards twenty 306 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: twenty four in terms of pitch election and percentages. 307 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: What are you expecting from yourself? 308 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: Do you did you use this time to say, hey, 309 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: maybe there's a couple of things that that you know, 310 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: like I can evolve on, or there are things that 311 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: I want to work on, or there might be a 312 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: new version of me. Not to share trade secrets, but 313 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: are there things that you know you would recognize it 314 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 3: maybe some things that we won't when we see you 315 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: back out there. 316 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, the usage might change a 317 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: little bit. You know, in the past, I'd always had 318 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: this concern of like overusing the break and ball one 319 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: because the break and balls had good action, but I 320 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 4: wasn't very consistent on like locating them, throwing them to 321 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: back doors, throwing them to you know, the front hip 322 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: a certain hitters. So it was more just like setting 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 4: up middle and ripping pitches and just relying on the 324 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: nastiness of the pitch, not necessarily a location or the 325 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: you know, the time of when I'm using them, and 326 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: for health reasons, like I just didn't think that I 327 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: could sit there and rip off slider after slider after 328 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: slider and not have any consequence from it. So always 329 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: like kind of health related and then you know, just 330 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: trust in the pitch that I didn't have back then. 331 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: And then in the end of my twenty twenty season 332 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, you know, they talked about what a good 333 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: pitch my curve ball was and that I should be 334 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: using a little more. And I had just kind of 335 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: been middle of the road pitcher, you know, mid foors 336 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: vra just kind of very average. I threw a lot 337 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: of strikes, but you know, gave up some damage here 338 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: and there, so I made an adjustment in with a 339 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: sixty game season, I was like, this is a chance 340 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: to kind of go out there and pitch with a 341 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: heavier you know, break and ball percentage in a shorter 342 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: season where I'm not going to have to sustain this 343 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: for thirty two starts. I just got to put it 344 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: out there for twelve and I got really good results 345 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: from it. And throughout that process, I you know, changed 346 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: my arm motion a little bit. I shortened up my 347 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: arm action in the back a lot, which made me 348 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: more consistent and put my arm in a better position 349 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: to stay healthier. 350 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: And I got really good results. 351 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: So traded over here in twenty one and AJ had 352 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: a few ideas after talking to the pitching department about, 353 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: you know, using the sinker more to lefties and doing 354 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: things that were very outside of what I had ever done. 355 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: And I kind of fought back on it, you know, 356 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't throw my sinker to lefties. 357 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: You know used to tell me to throw it. I 358 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: just that's not a pitch I've ever thrown. I'm not 359 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: comfortable with it. And I went out in spring and 360 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: I think I threw to Kansas City and gave up 361 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: like seven runs, and I said, well, that's what happens, 362 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: and I throw the sinker to lefties, you know, just 363 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: kind of like. 364 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: And I wanted it to work, you know, like I 365 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: wanted it to work. It just wasn't. 366 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: So I kind of went back to my way of pitching, 367 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: and I was like, you brought me here to be successful, 368 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: and this is how I know how to do it. 369 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not shutting that down completely, but I 370 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: don't want to come in here and like completely lose 371 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: all the ground I had made up in the last 372 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: year with the break in balls and stuff. So I 373 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: kind of went back to my game plan and they 374 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: saw how it worked and how it played, and you know, 375 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: gave me a few adjustments on the sweeper. We started 376 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: throwing the sweeper a little more, and that just kind 377 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: of became who I was. So coming back this year, 378 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: I mean, off of surgery, I don't expect to be that, 379 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: you know, fifty percent of breaking ball guy anymore, at 380 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: least not. 381 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: Right out of the gates. 382 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: But I did work a lot on delivery and like 383 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: trying to trying to improve on my fastball. I feel 384 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: like I had good results with the fastball because I 385 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: didn't use it a ton, so when I did show it, 386 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: it was kind of a surprise pitch to people, and 387 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: I usually located really well so I can get it 388 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: to the spots I want. But the metrics of the 389 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: pitch and the performance of it wasn't great. I just 390 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: had decent results on it. So I put a lot 391 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: of work in on just getting a true fastball that 392 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: had a little more ride and carry and something that 393 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: I can use to the top and bottom of the zone. 394 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: And then you know, started really working on that synker 395 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: to the lefties, which is still going to be a 396 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: very sparingly used pitch, but something that I can use 397 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: on the inner half to lefties, you know, guys that 398 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: tend to lay off of the inner half, or if 399 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: I'm not getting guys to chase the breaking balls to 400 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: the back foot, it's something that I can use to 401 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: kind of re engage them, show them that, you know, 402 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: if it's arts in it's not always going to be 403 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: a ball. I can run something back over the plate 404 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: that'll be a strike and just kind of re engage 405 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: hitters in the at bad. So I'm not sure how 406 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: it's going to look. I think a lot of it's 407 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: going to be dictated on how I feel physically, you know, 408 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 4: what I'm capable of doing. If I feel capable to 409 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: throw the fifty percent break and ball, I'd love to 410 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: go back to that, but I just don't know if 411 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: that's going to be doable right out of the gates. 412 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 4: So it's going to be a lot of, you know, 413 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: just trial and error and seeing how the body responds. 414 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: You made it clear to us Joe at FanFest, that 415 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: you were going to be smart about about pushing yourself 416 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: and when you're going to come back, and that you 417 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: would maybe you would skip a start, but with the 418 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: whole goal, you want to be ready when the games 419 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: count September and October. So how how important has it 420 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: been for you to be honest with with Craig Stammon, 421 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: with Rubin Diebola and what to you? 422 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: What? 423 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: And I know you map beings out, you have an 424 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: idea when everything's going to happen. What are you envisioning 425 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: as the best way for you to proceed? 426 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they it's a lot of credit to them. 427 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: They've really given me, putting a lot of trust in me. 428 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: I told Rubin, you know, and stamming at the start 429 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: of camp, I said, I want you to treat me 430 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: as normal as possible, and let me tell you when 431 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: I need a break or when I need a day, 432 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: and they were on board with that. 433 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that is the best way. 434 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: If you have a picture that understands himself and you know, 435 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: as a hard worker, and it's doing the things that 436 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: he needs to do, I think you should give him 437 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: some trust to like, hey, I need a day and 438 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 4: like now's the time for it, or like I feel good, 439 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: let's keep pushing. So it's going to be just a 440 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: lot of back and forth for us, but yeah, ultimately 441 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: I want to be ready, you know when the games 442 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 4: start counting, you know, whether that's in April, you know, 443 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: first game of the season, end of March, or if 444 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 4: that's you know, a month into the season. The idea 445 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: of me making thirty two starts this year might not 446 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: be realistic. You know, one hundred and eighty innings might 447 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: not be realistic. So if that means I got to start, 448 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: you know, two three weeks into the season, I'm fine 449 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: with that. If I'm good on opening day and I 450 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: got to take a break, you know a little bit 451 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: before also great, I'm fine with that. It's just going 452 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: to be how am I going to get myself to 453 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: be sharp and feeling strong still when September October comes. 454 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: So I don't really know what that looks like yet, 455 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 4: but I got a few ideas of how we're going 456 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: to do it based on how I'm feeling at the time. 457 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I know you're manager. Craig Stamman today talked about the 458 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: idea of a six man rotation, and by the way, 459 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: speaking of that six man rotation, there's a law in 460 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: of candidates for the fifth and that sixth spot. I 461 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: know what it's like for the media and the fans 462 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: watching the past five days. What was it like for 463 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: guys in that clubhouse seeing the whirlwind of movement from 464 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: aj Peller? 465 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, exciting. I mean, you know, you know, the saying 466 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: like you can never have enough starting pitching. I think 467 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: everyone looks at the opening day rosters and you know, 468 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: you look at how strong everybody's lineups look and how 469 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: strong the rotations look, and you know, it's very rare 470 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: that those things stay consistent throughout the whole year. There's 471 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 4: constantly injuries, there's lack of performance, there's you know, family 472 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: issues that happen, people might have to step away for 473 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 4: a little bit. So I think everyone in here is 474 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: under the understanding that, hey, if it's not me right away, 475 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: it's going to be me at some point, and keep 476 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: myself ready. I think, you know, maybe for some of 477 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: the guys that are on the brink of making the rotation, 478 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: you know, the four or five guys, you know, could 479 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: be a little more stress for them. Now there's more 480 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: competition in camp, but I mean, I don't think more 481 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: groups that shives away from that. 482 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: You know, I think we're. 483 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 4: We're very clear on what's expected of you here, and 484 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: I think guys are going to compete the same way, 485 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: whether they have more competition or you know what we 486 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: started with when Spring started. So I love it though 487 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 4: we got you know, a lot of guys that have 488 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: been really good in the past and have had success, 489 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: and you know, maybe are coming off injuries. You look 490 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: at Walker and Herman, even Griff, you know, those guys 491 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: are all coming off some significant injuries. And Bullers had 492 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: a couple a couple of years back now, and you know, 493 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: Marquez one year back. But you know, knowing how I 494 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: feel coming off with Tommy John and you know, seeing 495 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: what they've gone through since being back in the games. 496 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 2: It's not easy. 497 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: So you know, sometimes it takes that two year two 498 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: and a half year mark until you start feeling like, God, 499 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: I feel like normal again, Like I can really let 500 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: the ball go. And a part of it is like 501 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: you've got to figure out how to throw again. You know, 502 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: the elbow, the structure your elbo is different, so nothing 503 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 4: moves how it used to move. The timing of your 504 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: delivery is off now because things aren't able to take 505 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: the same force that they were right away. So in 506 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 4: a sense, you kind of got to reteach yourself how 507 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: to pitch. And it's difficult, especially when you're used to 508 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: doing things a certain way for so long and now 509 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: everything changes and you've got to find a way to 510 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: still get out at the highest level at petition. So 511 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: and especially when you're in season, like time to city 512 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: and contemplate and over evaluate and think, because sometimes you 513 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: just got to get it and go and figure it 514 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: out on the fly as you're moving. So I think 515 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: those guys are are proven big leaguers that have had 516 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: a lot of success, and I think they can have 517 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: success again. I think with the staff we got here 518 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: and you know Ruben's team of guys, I think they'll 519 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 4: they'll fit right in. 520 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: I would Joe Musker of the Pottery fan have felt 521 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: about seeing Walker Bueller come walking in putting on the 522 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: brown and gold. 523 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: I think they gladly welcome it. Man, I would gladly 524 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: welcome it, you know. I think as a ballplayer, man like, 525 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 4: we love this game so much. I don't think it's 526 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: easier for a fan to say, how could you go 527 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: play for the other side. But as a ballplayer, you're 528 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: trying to make money, provide for your family, and you 529 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 4: don't want to walk away from the game. And if 530 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: that's the only opportunity you got, I think you take it, 531 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: you know. 532 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: And I think there's always a little more. 533 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: Animosity from the fan base towards each other than there 534 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: is from players in one another. I mean, there's a 535 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: there's a there's definitely a thing between us and the Dodgers. 536 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: You know, we don't care for them too much. They 537 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: don't care for us. But it's not this pure level 538 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: of hatred that you see from some of the fan base. 539 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: You know, we all understand we're playing the same game here. 540 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: We're all here for the same reason, and there is 541 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: a lot of crossover. So at some point you're going 542 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: to play with these guys in the same clubhouse. Sometimes 543 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: you play on the other team, so there's always. 544 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: A certain level of respect that you carry for one another. 545 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's probably it's probably some good conversation on 546 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: Twitter right now, but for us in. 547 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: Here, we're welcome. We're welcome in with open arms. Good. Yeah, 548 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: that's what I was saying. 549 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: Put yourself back in the seats as a fan. Craig 550 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: Stamman obviously great teammate, great human being. You guys are 551 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: all on the record talking about your affection for him. 552 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: What's it been like with Craig Stamman as a manager. 553 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been good. Our camp's been great so far. 554 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: I think Craig understands the flow of a camp and 555 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: how you know, some guys prepare really well in the offseason. 556 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: You know, they're five six, seven days a week prepping 557 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 4: and getting ready. Some guys a little bit less. But 558 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: going from you know, most guys are running a Monday 559 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: to Friday schedule and having the weekends off to coming 560 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: into spring and now it's every day for thirty days straight, 561 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: you know, leading into his one hundred and sixty two 562 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 4: game season. You know, it's very easy to wear your 563 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: guys out in spring and you know, pick up little 564 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: injuries just by being out on the cleats and being 565 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: on the field longer than you need to be. So 566 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: I think he's run a really good schedule here and 567 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: minimize some of the some of the time that we 568 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 4: spend on the field, which ultimately allows guys to invest 569 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: more in their individual work. I mean, you look at 570 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: our fields in the morning, there's every single field is 571 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: taken and everybody's out there getting early work in, which 572 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: is where you really get better as a player. You know, 573 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: the individual early work where it's just you and your 574 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: coaches and you're working on a specific part of your game. 575 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: And then you get together for the team fundamental and 576 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: you know, in our camp, those are ten minutes. You know, 577 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 4: it's real quick in and out, make sure we're all 578 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: working as a unit well together. But I've been part 579 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: of other camps where we spend thirty five forty minutes 580 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 4: on the on the group fundamental stuff, and then nobody 581 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: wants to go out and do early work. No one 582 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: wants to get their individual stuff because you're just beat 583 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: it's like a lot of stuff in the day. So 584 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: I think the schedule right now is allowing everybody to 585 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: get out there and get their individual work work on 586 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 4: the things that they specifically need work done, and then 587 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: we'll get together as a group and we'll put it 588 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: all together and make sure all the communications right and 589 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: the signaling is right, and then we get off the 590 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: field and we get in here and get our lifts 591 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: in and our training recovery. But you know, Craig's really 592 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: big on the book ends of the day. You know, 593 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: same with Rubin is like we prepare really really well, 594 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: and then when our day's over, we come in and 595 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: we do the recovery. We get all the you know, 596 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: the treatment and stuff we need so that we can 597 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: get back and do it again the next day. I 598 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: think those are the things that are extremely important and 599 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 4: spring to stay healthy and to get yourself ready is 600 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: to you know, focus on what you need to get 601 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: done and cut out some of the the extra work 602 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 4: of just standing in a huge group of sixty guys 603 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: and maybe getting one rep in the twenty five minute drill. 604 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: You know. 605 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 4: So Craig's been great. I mean the speeches he's given us, 606 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: he seems comfortable in the role. He seems like he's 607 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: in charge of the room, and you know, he's really 608 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: putting a lot of trust in his staff to go 609 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: out there and do what he hired them to do. 610 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: We're going to get into all of the nitty gritty 611 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: details about why you should switch to Mint Mobile, but 612 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: I brought a special guest in for this one to 613 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: alert you that you might be paying way too. 614 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: Much for your wireless bill. 615 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 5: Eric Kratz, Can you give me the bullpen dugout phone? 616 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: Please? U lu lu lu lu lulu. 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I know that AJ Prowler, 634 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: when he addressed the media about the signing why he 635 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: was comfortable, said that he did speak to some of 636 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: the leaders on this team before before he signed him. 637 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: And when I think of the leaders in the team, 638 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: I think of like you, what was that conversation like 639 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: and what what did you have to consider before you're 640 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: like yeah, why not? 641 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 642 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure some of it is about, you know, 643 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: some of the stuff that's come out recently about Nick 644 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 4: and you know his issue in Philly with that Miami game. 645 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 4: But as a player, I don't think anybody in here 646 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: has an issue with that. You know, we know the 647 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: kind of player he is. You know, he speaks his mind. 648 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: He's very you know, very confident in what he believes in, 649 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: and you know he's a veteran of the game. 650 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: He's been around a long time. He's played on really 651 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: good teams. 652 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 4: He's played with a number of different you know, future 653 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: Hall of famers, and he's a guy that does things 654 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: the right way. You know, he prepares, he shows up, 655 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: he's ready to work, very serious about how he goes 656 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: about his work. So yeah, Aj is always cautious of, 657 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: you know, adding someone to a group, making sure he 658 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: checks in with guys and make sure it's someone that 659 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: we feel is going to fit in our group and 660 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 4: somebody that you know, we want on board, which I 661 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: think you don't see in every organization. You know a 662 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 4: lot of times it's just like here's your pieces, figure out, 663 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: make it work. We're really big on the culture of 664 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: the clubhouse and you know, the culture of the team. 665 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: So if somebody comes in and you know they're not 666 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 4: fitting that bill and they're not you know, getting on board. 667 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Of what we got. 668 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: You know, our guys also have no problem saying, hey, 669 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: this is a guy that doesn't belong here. But Aj 670 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 4: is great and he always comes in and brings that 671 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: stuff to us, includes us in it, which I feel 672 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: like empowers the players and it makes you take a 673 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: little more responsibility and in your actions and what you say. 674 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, we love Nick over here. I'm glad 675 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: we got him. 676 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: So I just have one final one because I can 677 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: do this all day, and I know you probably have 678 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: better things to. 679 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: Do, but I appreciate it one thing, right all. 680 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate something that AJ said recently. You're in a 681 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: division with the Dodgers, and everybody knows it, right and 682 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: and you know, common perception is everybody's just playing for 683 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: second place in the n West. And AJ's you know, 684 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: I don't think he says it just because he feels 685 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: like it's the right thing to say, you know, because like, 686 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: oh yeah, we're not there to just give up the 687 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: division for guys that are in that clubhouse. I mean, 688 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: do you do you view it as as such? Do 689 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: you think, like, listen, like we're not here to just 690 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: give in to them, you know, we're not. We're not 691 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: here to just let the Dodgers run away with the NS. 692 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: AJ said, like our goal is, you know, not to 693 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: just qualify for the playoffs. If that's what it is, fine, Well, 694 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: like we still, you know, are entering every single season 695 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: thinking about we want to be division champs. As unrealistic 696 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: as the outside public might think that is how do 697 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: you view. 698 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 6: All of that? 699 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I view it just like that. 700 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 4: You know, I think the guys in here compete, you know, 701 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: at the same level, regardless of the circumstances. So regardless 702 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: of how you know, powerful the other teams in our 703 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: division are, we don't have to play them one hundred 704 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: and sixty times a year. You know, We've got to 705 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: take care of business against the teams that we're supposed 706 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: to be and take care of business, you know, away 707 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: from those guys, knowing that when we go in and 708 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: play them, it's going to be a hard fight and 709 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: we don't expect to win, you know, ninety percent of 710 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: those games, you know, those best teams you looking for 711 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: a you know, you're looking to get out of there 712 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: and not have a negative, you know, negative record against 713 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: that team. But we feel like we're capable of competing 714 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: for this division just as much as the Dodgers are. 715 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: We understand and we respect how good they are as 716 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: a team and the firepower they have over there. But 717 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: it's all about how you put those pieces together, you know, 718 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: And like I said, you play them a handful of 719 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: times a year, So it's not like we're running up 720 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: against this juggernaut team every single game. You know, we 721 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: got to take care of our business so that at 722 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: the end of the game or at the end of 723 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: the season, we're right there with them in the running. 724 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: Joe, My last, my last question to you actually something 725 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: that that Dare and I were discussing before you join 726 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: us today, and that was the comments from you know, 727 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: from John Seidler. He was being asked about the idea 728 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: of the team being sold in relocation. Have you have 729 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: has he has John spoken to any of the players 730 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse about the plan for this for this 731 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: team moving forward? Has that or has he not really 732 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: done that? 733 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, not a detailed conversation. 734 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: He spoke to us a couple of days ago, you know, 735 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: just kind of saying the same thing, like, I know 736 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: you guys are probably you know, hearing a lot of stuff, 737 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: and you know, I have a lot of questions about 738 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: where the team's going and the sale of the team. 739 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: Pretty much said, you know, if you guys have questions, 740 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: feel free to come find me, you know, give me 741 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: a call, tell you what I can tell you. 742 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: But I mean there's certain things that. 743 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: You know, we're not even allowed to hear or know, 744 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: you know, there's certain things that on the business side 745 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: they just don't share with anybody. And I understand that 746 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: I'm not looking for, you know, every answer that there 747 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: is to have. 748 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: But as players are, your. 749 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: Biggest concern obviously is the guy that buys the team 750 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: or the person that takes the team over. 751 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: Are they going to be interested in winning or making money? 752 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: You know? 753 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: And I feel like, whoever takes this team, I can't 754 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: imagine they'd come in and not want to keep pushing 755 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: in the right direction. You know, we've already committed a 756 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: lot of money to players on this team. They get 757 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 4: the city behind you more than you ever have in 758 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: San Diego, and it's a stadium that's filling out every 759 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 4: single night. So I find it very hard to believe 760 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: that whoever comes in it's going to backtrack and you know, 761 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: cut payroll and and start minimizing things. I feel like 762 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: the smart move, especially if you're spending what you're about 763 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: to spend on the padres, you know, is to double 764 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: down and keep adding and keep going for it. This is, 765 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: you know, the best window we got right now. 766 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: These players, we. 767 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: Are only getting older, our contracts are getting shorter. So yeah, 768 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: I would love to see whoever comes in, you know, 769 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: commit to winning here and continuing to add to this team. 770 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I think you just booked for every single guy in 771 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: your clubhouse, as well as that fan base. If you're 772 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: that fan base, and you're right, Joe Joe Musgrove, you 773 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: are the absolute best. Ten years from now, when you're done, 774 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about hanging it up, I really think 775 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: that you should be the new co host with Darren 776 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: on Friar Terriers, but you can even take over the 777 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: Foul Territory network. Man, you are meant, You're meant for this, 778 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: and you've got a great voice. You've got a great 779 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: voice too. That's key, It's key. 780 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate that you guys. 781 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: Thank you, right, don't you don't want to follow in 782 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: staveds foot steps. You don't want to go down that 783 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: pathway And. 784 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: I've got to deal with enough stress on the plane. 785 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to be the one 786 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: answering questions all day. 787 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: Give me one maybe who's the next guy. 788 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: I think Michael King could be that guy. I think 789 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: Jake Croninworth could be that guy. Yeah, those two guys 790 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: kind of stick out to me. But dude, it's hard, man. 791 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I think you have to have like a 792 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 4: passion to want to do this, and it's like it's 793 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: so much more than just making the right calls. Part 794 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: for me, part of it is the fucking paperwork. I 795 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: don't want to sit here and write reports all night. 796 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: Like. 797 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 4: I love the idea of helping guys out and I'll 798 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: share all the knowledge I got about pitching, but I 799 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: don't want to sit here every night and write reports 800 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: and you know, being meetings all day long. 801 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: I just don't want to do that. Ship So yeah, right. 802 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: I love the game, and you know, I can't imagine 803 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: my life without baseball in some aspect, but I just 804 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: don't know what it looks like. 805 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: And it's hard to even picture it until until. 806 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm done, you know. And I don't have an option 807 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: as a player anymore. I think maybe some new things 808 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: will look like me, but yeah, right now that's not 809 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: even in my in my sights, co host, it is done. 810 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Deal, co host, love it? Thanks, Sure, you're the best. 811 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Take care of right, Thanks guy, Talk you soon. 812 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 3: Mhm.