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Speaker 1: Live from our nation's President Joe Biden's one point nine

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Speaker 1: the COVID response. We're talking right now about Jockey and

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Speaker 1: Thomas again and again that he will unite the country.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think Biden has to watch in terms

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Speaker 1: of moderate defectors. The House has been voting for this

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Speaker 1: stimulus package basically for months. This is Bloomberg Sound On

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Shirley on the Bloomberg Radio Behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: look at President Biden's inauguration, plus what are his first

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Speaker 1: Can he unify the country or is it just political

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Speaker 1: wishful thinking? Concressoman Caroline Maloney joins me and the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Politics team just got back from the Capital where we

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Speaker 1: were covering President biden inauguration, and that, of course, is

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Speaker 1: where we begin today with President Biden's inaugural address, in

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Speaker 1: which he said that democracy has prevailed. Just more than

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Speaker 1: a week after the attack on the Capitol. Here sound

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Speaker 1: on that this is America's day, this is Democracy's day.

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Speaker 1: The will of the people has been heard, and the

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Speaker 1: will of the people has been heated. We've learned again

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Speaker 1: the democracy is precious, democracy is fragile. At this hour,

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Speaker 1: my friends, democracy has prevailed. It was an historic day

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Speaker 1: this as Vice President Kamala Harris became the first female

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Speaker 1: this administration. We've got sound on what Biden went on

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Speaker 1: to say about the insurrectionists not achieving their goal to

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Speaker 1: delay democracy. Roll the tape. Here we stand just days

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Speaker 1: after a riotous mom I thought they could use violence

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Speaker 1: It did not happen. It will never happen, not today,

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Speaker 1: not tomorrow, not ever, not ever. The newly sworning president

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Speaker 1: sought to unify the country, and he was speaking to

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Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. He called for a change in

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Speaker 1: own and it was really an ethos pitch to try

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Speaker 1: to re heal the country that he says has gone

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Speaker 1: answer is not to turn inward, to retreat into competing factions.

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Speaker 1: We must end this uncivil war. The pit's read against blue,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk all about the policy prescriptions of the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration. We're also going to check in with Congresswoman

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Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Politics team, Jeanie Shanzino Ionn, a college professor,

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Speaker 1: and eight presidential campaign. Genie, I'll start with you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: as Rick Davis and Rick. You mentioned that I need

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Speaker 1: your book. See, Genie, that was my pivot. She was brilliant.

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Speaker 1: She was talking about whether or not we as a

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Speaker 1: sound from Senator Amy Klobuchar from the inauguration. Have we

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Speaker 1: passing of the torch of democracy to truly appreciate what

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Speaker 1: a blessing and a privilege it is to witness this moment?

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Speaker 1: I think not. And even as she said that, it

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Speaker 1: was just hours after President Trump departed from the White

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Speaker 1: House to joint pace Andrews and then flown flew to

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Speaker 1: mar Lago in Florida. And before he departed, he again

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Speaker 1: bucked tradition and made some comments U and he said, well,

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Speaker 1: let's roll the tape. I've got sound on it. Here's

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Speaker 1: the former president of the United States last comments before

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Speaker 1: taking off tomorrow, Lago. I wish the new administration great

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Speaker 1: luck and great success. I think they'll have great success.

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Speaker 1: They have the foundation to do something really spectacular. So

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Speaker 1: just a goodbye, we love you, we will be back

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Speaker 1: in some form. Have a good life. We will see

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Speaker 1: you soon. Have a good life. We'll see us soon.

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis, the Republican Party has a lot of well

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Speaker 1: what what what does the Republican Party have to do

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Speaker 1: at the at the aret of a new cycle? Rick Datus, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they have to define what they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: for this year. Right, they don't have Donald Trump telling

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Speaker 1: them what to do, so they are actually going to

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Speaker 1: have a moment to look in and say, what are

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Speaker 1: our priorities? Uh? They Mitch McConnell actually gets to set

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Speaker 1: the agenda within the Republicans and in the Senate, and

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy is gonna sit down with this caucus, which

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Speaker 1: probably will be more problematic because of all the concerns

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Speaker 1: that that we have with the Republican Caucus in their

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Speaker 1: and and talk about what their priorities are will they

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Speaker 1: be obstructionists? Will they be cooperating where they're gonna try

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Speaker 1: and get the best deal they can in a in

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Speaker 1: a Congress that's led by Democrats. Uh, these are the

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Speaker 1: things are going to do, practically speaking. But they're all

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Speaker 1: looking back at their home states and going, oh, my god,

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Speaker 1: the politics is horrible for me right now. How am

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Speaker 1: I going to make this better before the midterm elections?

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Speaker 1: It's and and even as we say that, and we're

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Speaker 1: awaiting Congressman Caroline Maloney, a Democrat from New York, to Calliston, said, Genie,

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Speaker 1: if I interrupt it, because we got the congresswoman on

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Speaker 1: I was struck. I still can't get over the dynamic

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Speaker 1: between President Trump and Mike Pence. And I was observing

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Speaker 1: him when he was on the risers of the inauguration

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Speaker 1: today with his wife Karen, and they weren't, you know,

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Speaker 1: of the other former presidents. And then at one point

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Speaker 1: I just thought if I had a microphone, I would

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Speaker 1: just put it right there to hear what they were

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Speaker 1: talking about. Donna Brazil was talking to them, But Donna

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Speaker 1: Brazil actually had had a longer conversation with with Mike Pence.

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Speaker 1: She of course the former Democratic uh you know, top

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Speaker 1: I mean, where does Mike Pence go from here? Jeanne's

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Pence has had a really really challenging

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Speaker 1: He needs that vacation that you're taking. Kevin. He I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really really stunning to see him sitting there,

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Speaker 1: of isolated in the way we keep hearing that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has been I do think as Rick was just

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Speaker 1: mentioning people looking towards two, he of course is looking

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Speaker 1: carefully about how he maps that out. And we see

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party starting to do that already. And I

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Speaker 1: hate to talk about the next election. The day of

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Speaker 1: the inauguration. But that's literally what's going on. We've got

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, who likely will be the nominee on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side, assuming Joe Biden doesn't run. And then you've

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Speaker 1: course the former Vice President Pence and so many other

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Speaker 1: And Mike Pence Shirley has a prominent place in that pack.

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Speaker 1: And the question is does he hug tight to Trump

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Speaker 1: great point. I want to welcome down to the program

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Caroline Maloney. She's a Democrat from New York. Congresswoman,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see you up there at the inauguration. Did

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Speaker 1: you get a Gaga selfie? Oh? Yes, I did. I

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Speaker 1: the new first Lady and and then the first woman

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Speaker 1: All Right, it really was I mean it was especially

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Speaker 1: been there during out attack, I mean, what what it

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Speaker 1: and it was a stark difference of in the first attack.

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Speaker 1: We were not prepared. The police were overwhelmed. We didn't

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Speaker 1: forts coming at them. This time, we were sort of

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Speaker 1: over prepared. They had a fence around, an unscalable fence

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Speaker 1: around the capitol, and then a fence around the fence,

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Speaker 1: and in the capital. Walking through it, it was sort

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Speaker 1: the National Guard had turned the the grounds of the capitol.

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Speaker 1: They put up tents for their housing, and many were

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Speaker 1: looked more like it was eerie. It keeps no cars

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Speaker 1: you looked, you saw military personnel. It almost looked like

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it, and that is

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Speaker 1: exactly what I thought, because and I was really struck

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Speaker 1: of the of the presidents. And I can't overstate this enough,

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Speaker 1: how transformed this city has been as a result of that.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about policy. I know

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Speaker 1: you're pressed for time, so let me ask you specifically.

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Speaker 1: Can Congress deal with a one point nine trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: stimulus plan while the Senate is having the impeachment trial?

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Speaker 1: Is that a political risk for the new administration? I

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Speaker 1: I think we can do both at the same time.

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Speaker 1: We have to get the resources out across the country

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Speaker 1: to help this country recover from co IT. We're in

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Speaker 1: a fight or a race against the virus. We have

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Speaker 1: to get vaccines out In New York. We've absolutely used

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Speaker 1: up all our vaccines. We need more resources coming to

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Speaker 1: help the medical establishment and to help the people, and

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Speaker 1: we've got to do it. I think that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: and Republicans will be united in responding to the needs

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Speaker 1: of the country of getting another COVID package out there,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly the dollars for for the vaccines so

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Speaker 1: that people can recover. We're not our economy is not

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Speaker 1: going to recover until this vaccine is is under control.

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Speaker 1: And the only way we're gonna get it under control

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Speaker 1: infecting more and more people, then you'll see more variants

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Speaker 1: coming out, and the the mutations are more deadly than

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Speaker 1: the first the first round of COVID far more contagious,

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Speaker 1: as we've seen from Africa and England. So we want

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Speaker 1: to stop it, and the only way we can stop

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Speaker 1: it is with vaccinations, getting our people law protected. And

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Speaker 1: we won't be able to open up our businesses and

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Speaker 1: our restaurants and our stores and the vitality of our

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Speaker 1: great country until we control this disease. So I think

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Speaker 1: the aisle. You've got to realize that President Biden grew

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Speaker 1: up in the House and the Senate. He knows everybody,

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Speaker 1: He has a history of working across the aisle. The

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Speaker 1: theme of his speech with unity, unity, and hope and

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Speaker 1: working together. Many are saying it is the best speech

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Speaker 1: then since uh John Tis Joe Kennedy's. It was inspiring,

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Speaker 1: it was really powerful and I'm sorry, this is genius.

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Speaker 1: They know. I wanted to just ask, it's so good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. I am a New Yorker, so

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Speaker 1: I am a neighboring constituent. Um. I wanted to just

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Speaker 1: get back to the historic nature of the day and

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Speaker 1: noting that you had just signed the bill was signed

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Speaker 1: for the first VA hospital to be named after a

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Speaker 1: woman veteran in our area, and I think across the

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Speaker 1: country if I'm not mistaken, but first in history, my friend,

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Speaker 1: first in history, Jennie, fascinating and of course today with

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, can you just talk a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: think about all my students for what this means to

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Speaker 1: think that you find we finally have the first female

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Speaker 1: vice president of the United States. As you know, is

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Speaker 1: the hundredth anniversary of women gaining the right to vote.

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Speaker 1: It's a historically important it's a great milestone up our

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Speaker 1: founding mother said from the vote would come all other power. Well,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out that way. Many women have experienced

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of discrimination in their life, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, I never thought that

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Speaker 1: I would see a female vice president. I really didn't.

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Speaker 1: I literally started crying. And you saw New York's Associate

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Speaker 1: Justice as Sonya Soda may Air, the first uh Latina woman,

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Speaker 1: uh uh doing the the honor of swearing her into office.

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Speaker 1: That was moving to to see the women on the

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Speaker 1: And I I think that it is a tremendous message

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Speaker 1: that you can do anything that disguise the limit. You

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Speaker 1: can be the vice president. And that's not how most

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Speaker 1: women were raised and and most women have experienced throughout

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Speaker 1: their like tremendous discrimination. So I think that she is

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Speaker 1: And she's such a nice person, an accomplished person, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I really think we have a team of very inclusive

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Speaker 1: people who want to work together. But we're always better

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Speaker 1: when we work together. Congressman, we wanted us without the

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Speaker 1: unity and hope we have for tomorrow. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: love the unity message and it's really punched through today.

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Speaker 1: This is Rick Davis from Washington and UH. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining the show. And I wanted to go back

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Speaker 1: to your earlier comments about the January sixth situation and

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Speaker 1: how it was on everybody's mind today. And I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of curious. As chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight

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Speaker 1: and Reform, a big investigative committee and in the House

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Speaker 1: of Represents with subpoena power, are you involved in any

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Speaker 1: of the investigation as to what happened inside the Capitol

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Speaker 1: that day, why we got to where we were in

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Speaker 1: and if so, maybe shed some light on what you

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Speaker 1: think the timing of information is, because obviously information coming

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Speaker 1: out of that investigation would be I think very germane

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Speaker 1: to the debate that will be going on in the

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Speaker 1: Senate on impeachment. Well, we've we've called for UH to

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Speaker 1: UH investigations that were deeply involved in UH. One is

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Speaker 1: There were reports in the paper about violencea on the

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Speaker 1: So we've asked for documents and briefings of investigations on

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Speaker 1: how did you prepare for January six? And then what

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Speaker 1: then of course how are you holding people accountable? And

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Speaker 1: we go to understanding what are the recommendations, obviously to

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Speaker 1: make sure this does not happen again. It was searing

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Speaker 1: to most Americans and and shocking beyond belief that the

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Speaker 1: It was it'll go down in history as one of

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Speaker 1: darkest days in American history. This other investigation is with

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Speaker 1: If you are taking an oath to uphold the law

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Speaker 1: intend to destroy the leadership and to destroy the government.

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Speaker 1: And they did for a while. They held us up

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Speaker 1: several hours. We were constitutionally required to swear UH and

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Speaker 1: that right there, I think is an important point. Congresswoman

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Speaker 1: Caroline Maloney, Democrat from New York's twelfth congressional district, just

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Speaker 1: about that this did have an effect on the ability

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Speaker 1: the most basic form, a vote certifying the electoral count

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Speaker 1: of a of a presidential election. It doesn't get more

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Speaker 1: serious than that. Congresswoman Maloney, I know you've got to go.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for being so

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Speaker 1: generous with your time. Come back on please and talk

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Speaker 1: to us about that investigation. Once you wrap that up,

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Speaker 1: you have a busy day. Thank you, Congresswoman Maloney. Just

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Speaker 1: to reset here, I'm Kevin CURRELLI, Chief Washington correspondent for

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio, accompanied by my colleagues

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Speaker 1: Jennie shon Zano and Rick Davis. Rick. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: thought that was a really interesting point that she made

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Speaker 1: just about the investigation, and when you put it in

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Speaker 1: simple terms with regards to what happened on January six,

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Speaker 1: they were unable to conduct the business of the United

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Speaker 1: States Congress. I mean, it's I think as this gets,

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Speaker 1: you know, in instigated and told, it's it really fundamentally,

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Speaker 1: life experience in civics. Uh, these are dates set in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution that the Electoral College will meet and vote

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Speaker 1: on this day. And the idea that a mob tried

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Speaker 1: when these dates are sacer sancd in our elections. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of things in elections that you can

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Speaker 1: get away with kind of push this, push that. But

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Speaker 1: this is in the constitution. And so when you violate

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, you're taking a riot into the next level

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Speaker 1: and you do it in a joint session of Congress

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Speaker 1: way for our democracy to operate. Uh. I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: people think, wow, you know, that was too bad, because

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Speaker 1: the just did a great job of reassembling and getting

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Speaker 1: their job done. But the idea that anybody would condone

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Maloney and others will be not only investigating, but

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Speaker 1: taking action. We have not heard the end of this

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Speaker 1: story when it comes to who was involved in this

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Speaker 1: process in the in the Congress, and did they violate

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Speaker 1: their oath to the Constitution. In supporting this activity. All right,

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about just in

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Speaker 1: the final few minutes that we have on this show

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Speaker 1: before I go on my two week vacation. But I

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Speaker 1: will be back. I'll be back, um uh and and

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Speaker 1: Rick and Janie are going to hold down the fort

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Speaker 1: for me while I'm away. But Jenie, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with you justin in terms of of the geopolitics,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking of how of how the world would

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Speaker 1: moment where President Biden spoke directly to the world, and

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Speaker 1: were accompanying him in the again an audience appears, and

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Speaker 1: but now I'll speak to the world. I'm putting myself

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Speaker 1: in in a global leaders I'm not going to even

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Speaker 1: go there, Kevin rain it in. I'm thinking of how

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Speaker 1: the world would view today's inauguration, Jeanie's you know, and

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Speaker 1: the images coming out of America over the past two weeks,

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Speaker 1: and I just what perspective as a professor, do you

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Speaker 1: where democracy stands in America after what happened just more

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Speaker 1: rest of the world has been this almost turning away

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Speaker 1: our traditional allies has been this you know, America first,

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Speaker 1: America great idea. And so what has happened is we

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Speaker 1: seen what that has meant as you look at our

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Speaker 1: return to normalcy. And one thing we know is that

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Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden is focused on re establishing those

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Speaker 1: important relationships because he has a trade more traditional, i

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Speaker 1: should say, view in line with the you know, the establishment,

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Speaker 1: which is that the United States cannot go it in

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Speaker 1: the world alone. As you confront things like you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, these things require these multilateral relationships and these

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Speaker 1: this sort of post World War two world, if you will,

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Speaker 1: And we know that Biden is committed to re establishing

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Speaker 1: something of a relief. Yeah. What makes me really happy, Genie,

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Speaker 1: is that our enemies are really having a bad night tonight.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean four years ago Vladimir Putin was

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Speaker 1: thrown a party. Tonight he's kicking the dog. You know,

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Speaker 1: nothing that makes me happy to think we've spoiled his dessert, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, it's just it's who we are

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Speaker 1: as a country, right. We're competitive, We want to we

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Speaker 1: want to have our brand of of exceptionalism exported around

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Speaker 1: the world because we think that we're the greatest country

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Speaker 1: for good in the world. And Joe Biden made that

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Speaker 1: case today. And the one thing that the our enemies

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Speaker 1: around the world, those who want darkness not light having

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Speaker 1: boyd for the last four years, is Donald Trump for you,

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Speaker 1: that the world is not his problem, right, He's just

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Speaker 1: gonna leave it alone and focus on the US. And

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden showed up on the world stage today. He's

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Speaker 1: taken action in his first few hours as president to

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Speaker 1: create some of that leadership. And and and boy, we

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Speaker 1: have spoiled a lot of despots night tonight. All right,

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Speaker 1: highlights in the last two minutes that I have left.

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Speaker 1: Highlights from today's inaugural ceremonies. Rick, I'm gonna start with you,

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Speaker 1: Amanda Gorman. Yes, inaugural poet stole my heart, most emotional

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Speaker 1: component of the entire inauguration. Thank you for bringing her

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Speaker 1: up because she really was remarkable. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. Okay, Jeannie,

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Speaker 1: the highlights of the inauguration for you. She was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I thought Garth Brooks did a stunning job today. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was very rivetted to his performance. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, leave it to w to remind him about

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Speaker 1: the hat. Am I right? Or Am I right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the poor guy forgot that the had I thought. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, I I watched back and I and I

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Speaker 1: truly cannot say just how amazing that national anthem was.

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Speaker 1: The correspondent next to me was brought to tears. I

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Speaker 1: where the attack was, where the inauguration was, was where

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Speaker 1: witness to history the the an inauguration. I am incredibly

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Speaker 1: this uniquely American moment and an historic American tradition. I'll

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Speaker 1: be back in two weeks. I'm not going anywhere. I'm

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Speaker 1: the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Yeah,