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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl drama girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 1: And our comic girl cheering for the rights, drama queens

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Speaker 1: up girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 3: Girl drama, Queens, drama, queise drama, Queens drama, drama, Queens drama, Queens.

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Speaker 2: Hillary, your hair looks so great today for our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Hillary's got her full curls happening at which I miss seeing,

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Speaker 2: and she's wearing a Whitney Houston T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Baby, I hit the target hard. This summer target sometimes

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Speaker 4: surprises me. I'm just gonna throw it out there. Like

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Speaker 4: sometimes I'm just walking through thinking I'm gonna get paper towels,

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Speaker 4: and then I see a Whitney Houston shirt and get

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Speaker 2: Guys, we'll get into the episode. But what's with the

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Speaker 2: curly hair right now? Madd in trouble because mine's going

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Speaker 2: bit of it's lester. But your hair always looks so

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Speaker 2: great when it's curly. What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: It's never been curlier because I'm not like coloring it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not putting chemicals on it, and so it's never

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Speaker 4: been curlier, and I don't do anything to it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I wake up and I put oil in it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I put way oil in it, and that's it.

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Speaker 4: And it's just saving me so much time because with

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Speaker 4: right now. We might get there one day, Today's not

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Speaker 4: that day. No, not that day. Also, I feel like,

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Speaker 4: like why would you do that? Like, yeah, everything's gone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we started zoom meetings and people were still dressing

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Speaker 4: I kind of love it, though, Listen, let's just get weird.

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Speaker 4: It's the exact opposite of what this episode was because

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Speaker 4: I laughed so hard at this group of women trying

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Speaker 4: in high heels. And dresses, full outfits on no sleep.

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Speaker 4: I am wearing fucking Sketchers right now. I'm wearing mom

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Speaker 4: Sketchers sneakers because that's what you wear when you're parenting.

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Speaker 4: Your brain's out.

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Speaker 2: I need to pull out my crocs. That's what I

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Speaker 2: was shuffling around in this morning. Yes, oh, birthday parties

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Speaker 2: and heels. Give me a break, those sweet little girls. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do you think, Sophia? You want to read the intro?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, guys, here we are. Season five, episode fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Life is Short. This originally aired April twenty eighth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. God, the era of the fancy short.

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Speaker 1: I would like I would just like to burn two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight to the ground.

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Speaker 4: No one did it better than you. The color of

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Speaker 4: our DVD where you're in the shorts and iconic.

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Speaker 1: Why why did we decide that was Brooks thing? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Not the point. The snopsis of the episode is that

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Speaker 1: Lindsay retreat legs. Lindsay returns to tree Hill for Jamie's

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Speaker 1: fifth birthday party, giving Lucas hope for their relationship, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe false hope. Who knows Brooke and Peyton prepare for

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Speaker 1: life with a new baby. Meanwhile, Dan tries to work

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Speaker 1: himself back into the lives of his family, ultimately divulging

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Speaker 1: a grave secret to Nathan and Hayley. This episode was

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Speaker 1: directed by our very own Paul Johansen.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't realize it was Paul.

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Speaker 4: What was hilarious is you know, like we did all

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Speaker 4: But like making TV so dumb like that, it's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like having a dog on set too,

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it was. It was like it was

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Speaker 4: You know what I liked is that it felt like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote down that I really liked watching us

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Speaker 4: We're just getting punched.

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Speaker 4: That is not normal.

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Speaker 2: What can you imagine saying that too? But but it's

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Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, You guys, gross.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that you were a camp counselor. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: We had that big supermoon here and I went with

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Speaker 4: That's what it feels like, though you're right, it.

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Speaker 2: Feels like Millie's the camp counselor.

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Speaker 4: And I also feel like our culture really kind of

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Speaker 1: Ways well underwear a side. I did think that the

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Speaker 1: what the apartment looks like, Lisa Goldstein made me do

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Speaker 1: a full spit take with did you know your couch

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Speaker 4: I wonder if Paul has lived this since he was

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Speaker 4: the one directing it. Paul was like, where do I

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Speaker 2: He's definitely lived with a lot of guys. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's got great stories. Yeah, he was an athlete and

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Speaker 2: the skills piece. I really like to bring in this

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Speaker 4: That worked though, because I think we'd all forgotten, but

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Speaker 4: but you can tell it's this thing that has been

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Speaker 4: kind of festering or like troubling him. He had a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so much fun to watch Antoine and

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Speaker 1: I loved I loved Skills coming to see Peyton at

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, when they just don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: But it's so fun.

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Speaker 2: I love those I love that it's so realistic.

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Speaker 4: This is when they were going to set up Peyton

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Speaker 4: Because they're bringing Lindsay back and like toe in that

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Speaker 4: are you doing dating my ex girlfriend? And it was

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Speaker 2: Wow, and then when did it switch over to Barbara

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Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, Barbara is so hot and so funny, and

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Speaker 2: This this scene with her, No, that's exactly it's not

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Speaker 2: I get that she's playful and you know, being goofy,

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Speaker 2: but I don't, I don't know that was weird.

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Speaker 1: Well, I made a note of it. I just literally wrote,

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Speaker 1: I hate this so much, but damn, Barbara commits and

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Speaker 1: makes it funny. Like Barbara is so funny. She's capable

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Speaker 1: a giant, flesh color her dick balloon in her face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and she.

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Speaker 1: Had to just be charming and funny with her tits out.

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Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, you think I'm gonna be bothered? Watch

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Speaker 1: how funny I make this? And I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: If it were like a pack of chicks, right like,

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Speaker 4: if I'm with you guys, or I'm with my girlfriends

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Speaker 4: colored dick balloon in front of us, we all react

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Speaker 4: for each other, right like we we like, maybe make

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you do it for your girlfriend's benefit, right,

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Speaker 4: And she doesn't have like a person there. But what

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Speaker 4: I liked is that she went from doing that like

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Speaker 4: That's why it was for me.

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Speaker 2: It was such a jarring moment, the scene with the clown,

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Speaker 2: she made it work as just showing off what an

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like meshing with the character. But she did

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Speaker 2: absolutely the best that anybody could have done with that.

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Speaker 2: But the way that she walked out that door and

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Speaker 2: immediately flipped on and turned on the Deb that we

441
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: knew from the beginning. Damn, she's so good.

442
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 4: Also, guys, I have to do my honorary mention right now, now,

443
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 4: right now, it's right now, it's happening. I go fawed

444
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: and like did a real spit take when when deb

445
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 4: says be careful, Buco, he's done time, and Bucko says,

446
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: haven't we all with the smile.

447
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: On his face.

448
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: It was so amazing I died.

449
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: I was a what show am I watching? But like, yes,

450
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: I love that this clown was like, I'm gonna go

451
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 4: protect this hot grandma. I don't know who this guy

452
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: is outside also casually mentions he's done time too, and

453
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: anybody like balloons, let's go back to the kids. That

454
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 4: was just the right amount of comedic relief I needed

455
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: in a Dan Scott moment.

456
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: Agreed, was this a precursor?

457
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: This is like the jumping the shark precursor to the

458
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: dog eating the heart?

459
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: Yes, because he starts talking about the HCM.

460
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like this is them testing the ground, Like, OK,

461
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: how much girl?

462
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: They've been done testing for episodes. Now they're like, can

463
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 4: we ride ourselves in? Can we have dev hook up

464
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 4: with the clown? Can we have a dog eat a heart?

465
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: It's all like a slow trickle to crazy town.

466
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, slow trickle to crazy town. That sounds like a

467
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: good name for the episode.

468
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: If it's not flesh colored dick balloon, oh, lush colored

469
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 5: dick balloon is Why didn't they pick like a like

470
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 5: a green one or like a purple one even been suggestive?

471
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: Because they just.

472
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: Needed to make it so clear.

473
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 4: Can you imagine the like mom that was watching that

474
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 4: with her thirteen year old daughter, yep, do you know

475
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: what I mean?

476
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: And the same thought, yes, all horrifying. I thought we

477
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: could trust this show. Go get some popcorn, come back later.

478
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: And that, I guess is part of it, right is

479
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: looking back. This is one of those episodes where the

480
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: swings feel so big, like the ick of the dick

481
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: balloon and everybody touching Millice's underwear underwea and then the

482
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: swing to the sweetness of like the friendships Brook and

483
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: Peyton together, Haley and Nathan having the mystery Jamie kissing

484
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: that baby's head, you know, children's birthday party. It's so

485
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: sweet on the one hand, and then so totally disgusting

486
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what was what was happening? I don't know,

487
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

488
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

489
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: I feel like two episodes got written and then they

490
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: just cuts threw them together scene to scene.

491
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I do have a question, and Hillary you

492
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: might know because this was y'all's scene when you and

493
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Antoine were together, Yeah, and you were giving the updates

494
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: and talking about how MIA's number number two on iTunes was?

495
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: Was Kate on iTunes at this point? Like had she

496
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: just released an album? Does anybody remember were we trying

497
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: to drive traffic to her stuff?

498
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 4: Like I think for sure we were always trying to

499
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: boost her numbers because when we shot the library episode,

500
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: remember they were using footage from that for her music video. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: so her music video might have just been released, like

502
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: she might have just had the song released into the wild,

503
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 4: because when we were shooting the library episode, I remember

504
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: her and our boss and he was like picking out

505
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: which picture was going to be the album art for

506
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 4: her release. And so I feel like there was so

507
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 4: much work. How many episodes ago was that at this point,

508
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: like four or five?

509
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: I think that was five o nine and this is

510
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: five point fifteen.

511
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that time's out. Yeah, you know, if they

512
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: were doing all that legwork right, then things would have

513
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: dropped about now and maybe or prepping.

514
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I wonder if they ever thought about just doing using

515
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: her name. I wonder if it was confusing at all

516
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: for the audience that she was releasing music on the

517
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: show as Mia Catalano, but then her own stuff was

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: out as Kate.

519
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: Speaking of real names, I loved in the episode when

520
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: Skills comes to Nathan and Haley and you called him.

521
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: I loved that.

522
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just made it so sincere because his character's

523
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: name is also Antoine. We never use it.

524
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: He was, uh, yeah, it was sincere because he was

525
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: he was being really honest and vulnerable. I guess it

526
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 2: just seemed like it would have been strange to be

527
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: like us Gills nowhere about it. Yeah, that was sweet.

528
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 4: I was.

529
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: I was happy to see those scenes come together. And

530
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to seeing Skills be around with

531
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: Barbara like this. This is the juicy stuff. I'm super

532
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: excited to get into. The two of them is so fun.

533
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 6: They I don't feel like, are they foreshadowing it in

534
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 6: this episode because it's the other two dudes who see

535
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 6: Barbara when they're all like sucking helium out of.

536
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: And it's Fergie and Junk being like I do her.

537
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: I would marry deb you know. Like, I love how

538
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: age appropriate they are. All the other characters are doing

539
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: that is just out of the realm of reality. Junk

540
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: and Fergie, those are our real time dudes.

541
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the way they freeze watching Millie when they

542
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: when they come around the corner and she's doing pilates

543
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: and they just do not know what to do with

544
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: a woman exercising in front of them, like.

545
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: And using their TV when they were about to watch

546
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: their own show.

547
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, and it's not creepy, and it isn't They're

548
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: not being salacious. They just do not know what to do,

549
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: and she knows they're uncomfortable and it makes her uncomfortable

550
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: and everyone just sort of freezes because no one has

551
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: ever interacted this way before. I loved it. It made

552
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: me laugh so hard.

553
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 4: Them bumping into shit as they're leaving the room.

554
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, no one.

555
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: Told them to do that.

556
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: They just did that, like into the bike prack. It

557
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: was so great.

558
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: I love Collins crossover into Outer Banks because I don't

559
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: care that the characters have different names. In my mind,

560
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: Junk is the cop on Outer Banks.

561
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: Yes, he grew up to be the cop and outer Banks.

562
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: Every time I see it, I think that too.

563
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for him, man, that's exactly where Junk should

564
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: be right now, just dealing with some medaling kids.

565
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: Well, and it's nice that the boys in their little container,

566
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: like all those boys get to be silly and young

567
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: and like we were talking about earlier, finding their way

568
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: and a little bit broke and figuring out what their

569
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: life is in this apartment. And two of them get

570
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: to be ridiculous, and one of them, you know, Mouth,

571
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: is trying to be less ridiculous for his girlfriend. And

572
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: then you've got Skills, who's such a good uncle and

573
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: so playful, but he's also dealing with something a little heavy,

574
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: and it's nice. It's nice that he gets a lot

575
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: of comic relief in his group of friends.

576
00:28:52,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, let's talk about the heavy shit then, because

577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 7: I thought Hailey was so great in this episode, in

578
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 7: these scenes with Luke.

579
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, where okay, I'm going to play Kate you.

580
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to play Kate you. I'm going to tell

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: you what you want to hear. I'm gonna tell you

582
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: it's fine. That moment we were like stop it, I'm

583
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: your best friend was fantastic.

584
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: I loved that.

585
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Thanks, and I loved that you guys, you made it

586
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: into something like it could have just been a scene

587
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: in a corner at a party, but the fact that

588
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the two of you and Paul staged it with you

589
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: helping him get ready and being like, what do you do?

590
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Who cares if she likes Blue? Like she doesn't like you, dude,

591
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and you're trying to give him these like honest answers

592
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: and he just won't hear it, and you kind of

593
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: without shaking him by the shoulders, you shake him by

594
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: the shoulders and remind him of who you are in

595
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: his life and what you're there for. I just I

596
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: loved it. It felt so real.

597
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: I remember shooting those scenes. I have for some reason,

598
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: I have a lot of memories of the scenes in

599
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Lucas's bedroom in the house. I just felt like Chad

600
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: and I just got on really well, and so it

601
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: was easy on set to be able to dive into

602
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: the Lucas and Haley bff energy. And I had missed

603
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: it because I spent so much time with James, who

604
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: I love and was it was. It was great, but

605
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: I did miss being able to really jump into other

606
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: people's stories and to go back to the beginning, because

607
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: I spent most of my time in the first season

608
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: with Chad and then everything progressed from that point forward,

609
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: so it was always nice to go back and just

610
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: revisit that best friend energy that was. That was the

611
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: moment in the screen test of when I when I

612
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: won the part, and I knew I had gotten it

613
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: because we had such great chemistry in that screen test.

614
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: It was it was total brothers energy, and I didn't

615
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: get to do a lot of that, I feel like

616
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: on the show because of how quickly things progressed with

617
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Nathan and Haley. So those scenes were always really fun.

618
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: And he knew his room so well, he knew the

619
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: set so well that he always had you know, it's funny.

620
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: I think we're both kind of proppy actors. I'm probably

621
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a proppy actor, which is

622
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: a downfall of mine. I think I lean on it

623
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: too much.

624
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: But he.

625
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: Knew where everything was in that room and he always

626
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: knew how to what to go to, what to grab onto,

627
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: what to pay attention to. And Yeah, it was fun

628
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: just moving around that space with him, and especially with

629
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Paul because he was our family. So it just those

630
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: scenes always felt like family, but I did like the

631
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: chemistry between Lucas and Lindsay in this episode. I have

632
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: to say, like I kind of go back and forth

633
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: between them where I was like, no, it's not right,

634
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: it's not right Lucas and Payton forever, and then this

635
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: one I was kind of like, Oh, Lindsay, I mean

636
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: maybe it could work.

637
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: Lindsay and I were styled hair and makeup wise so similarly. Yeah,

638
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: that sometimes I get confused at who I'm looking at,

639
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: and that's a weird thing to admit. Yeah, We're both

640
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: wearing like the eyeliner on the lower rim, and our

641
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: hair is styled very similar and our coloring is very.

642
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: Similar, so similar, Yeah.

643
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: And we stare at people the same way. We're just

644
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: always like lurking over when Lindsay walks in, and like

645
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: her and Lucas are locking eyes and then looking away

646
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: over the group of children, Like that's a very Peyton

647
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: Lucas thing to do. And so I'm just confused who

648
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking at. And so if he ends up with Lindsay, like,

649
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it. It's hot.

650
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Like I always thought she was styled a little bit

651
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: more New York business woman I guess at the beginning,

652
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: but maybe she relaxed a little bit more into but

653
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: you were also a little more dressed up for your

654
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: job at the record label, so I guess.

655
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: It's really more like the hair and makeup. It's just okay.

656
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: It's one thing if he like started dating like a

657
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: zany redhead, you know, like, clearly we're different. But when

658
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: you've got two chicks that have just a really similar

659
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 4: aesthetic and their and they're saying that scene with Peyton

660
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: and Lindsay where it's like hey, I'm sorry, and it's

661
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: like no, really, it's not your fault. I could have

662
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: said yes. That was such a big dick energy move

663
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: from Realiz is so good.

664
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: When she said that to you, I went like, I

665
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: guess how loud.

666
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: I loved it.

667
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: She delivered it so well too, because it wasn't she

668
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: didn't do it like ant whole. She really was like,

669
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: that's it's all good. I mean it's not, it's not

670
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: all about you, but it's okay.

671
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I'll still Yeah.

672
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: I loved it so subtle. It's so subtle and so sharp.

673
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: Peyton needed that. It's like, baby, you're not even a

674
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: factor here, but thank you, Oh thank go on, go

675
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 4: back to the party.

676
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: I appreciated that Peyton was apologizing and just I don't

677
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: even know exactly what you were apologizing for.

678
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: I thought about that. You know what Peyton did. She

679
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: put a splinter in something, and you can live with

680
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: a splinter. Splinter is not going to kill anybody. It's

681
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: not going to really hurt anyone, but it's irritating. She

682
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: added an irritant to their relationship that had it not

683
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: shown up, maybe everything would have been fine. Maybe it wouldn't,

684
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: you know, but she just she put a splinter in there.

685
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: But the truth is Lucas is the one that allowed

686
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: the splinter to exist there. If he didn't still if

687
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: he didn't still love Peyton, if he wasn't still thinking

688
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: of that as a possibility, there's easy ways to just

689
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: eliminate that from your relationship.

690
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if he wasn't so invested in something else,

691
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: like he still has a foot in the relationship with Peyton.

692
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Clearly he's got the frickin' ring he proposed to you

693
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: with in the sock drawer, like dumbard. He only proposed

694
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: to her because she found it. Like when you think

695
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: about those things, it gets so uncomfortable, and what I

696
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: appreciate about it is A. It gives us great drama

697
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: as an audience. B. It does give us some sort

698
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: of juvenile behavior that you that you need when all

699
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: your twenty one year old characters are like writing best

700
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: sellers and launching billion dollar companies.

701
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: Like where is Fanz?

702
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, please let us do some dumb, childish stuff.

703
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: But I think that's part of what makes it complex.

704
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: And in a way, I sort of felt like Peyton

705
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: was apologizing for the fact that her and Lucas still

706
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: had this stickiness, and Lindsay really owned it and was like,

707
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: it's fine, it was my choice. And I was like,

708
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: oh boy, I was not prepared for that. Oh boy,

709
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: she's so mature.

710
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: She's like the most mature out of every single one

711
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: of all.

712
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: All of us. Somebody gave me a baby and she

713
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: is still more mature by far.

714
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: But then Haley gets Peyton to admit. She's like, do

715
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: you love Lucas or do you just love the idea

716
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: of him, and Peyton for the first time is like yeah, both,

717
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: Like I love the idea of what we could have been.

718
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, those ideas are hard to let go of.

719
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: They are.

720
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: I just don't know why we're doing all this work

721
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: to have Peyton detach just for them to end up together.

722
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: Like this episode felt like a lot of like, well,

723
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 4: I love him, I'm stalking them on the internet, but yeah,

724
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make some big admissions here.

725
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: I just feel like they did that all season, Like

726
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: I I'm still mad about the fact that you and

727
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I had to shoot a scene where I looked at

728
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: you while you're crying over the love of your life

729
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and I go, I'm gonna ask him to be my

730
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: sperm downer, Like what that was?

731
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: The jump the shark line? It really was.

732
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: It was for one episode. We never talked about it again.

733
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: Here's the fan base is all like, we don't remember that,

734
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: we don't remember you physically asking him, and so there

735
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: has been a lot of speculation like are we reading

736
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: into things? No? Is it possible.

737
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: She was just telling him I'm going to adopt a

738
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: baby and he was saying, are you sure.

739
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: No, she says, I want to have a baby with Lucas,

740
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: and then there's a scene that cuts in in a

741
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: couple of episodes ago, I say it to Hillary, And

742
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: then a couple episodes ago there's a scene that cuts

743
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: into an episode with me and Chad mid conversation and

744
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: he's like why and I'm like just think about it

745
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: or whatever I say, like, and then it just went away.

746
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: So it's like they're setting up this whole thing for

747
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: you where you're like, maybe I don't really love him,

748
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's the idea of him, maybe it's high school nostalgia,

749
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be together forever, Like what is

750
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: going on?

751
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: Well, and they're doing so much work right now with

752
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Brooke and Lucas playing house in this episode, yeah, which

753
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: also feels super weird.

754
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: They didn't know what they wanted.

755
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: They really didn't, because we spend the whole first act

756
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 4: of the episode with Peyton and Brooke playing house together

757
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: and then that's not good enough. Brooke then has to

758
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: go and get help from Lucas in order to get

759
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: her work done and like get the baby to sleep

760
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: and stuff. That felt a little bit weird, but also

761
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: we're setting up the whole like which girl is Lucas

762
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: gonna pick? Situation? Maybe it's all just leading up to that.

763
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Was it ever really a question though, if Lucas and

764
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Brooke would end up together? I mean, I think maybe

765
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: in the first couple of seasons when they were dating

766
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: it was, but now it's back to like friend energy.

767
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: It just doesn't although I don't know, maybe that's just

768
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: because in retrospect, I mean, that's the same Dawson and

769
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: Pacey and Joey thing, where you know, constantly back and forth,

770
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: what's it going to be?

771
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: Well? And in their conversation this episode, she asks him

772
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: would you do anything different in high school? And he says,

773
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: I would appreciate things or I would not take things

774
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: for granted. Yeah, I would appreciate things that I'd taken

775
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: for granted, meaning like her exactly you. Yeah, what we're

776
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: alluding to. I don't know. I like them playing house used.

777
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: It does have that Felicity Ben and Nole energy or

778
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: the Pacey Dawson Joey thing, just trying to figure out

779
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: where do I fit. But Lucas is so it's funny

780
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: being the age that I am now looking back and

781
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: thinking what a mess this boy was, that he was

782
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: so confused about who he was that he was just

783
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: bouncing around in his emotions between these three girls constantly

784
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: what do I want? Who do I want to be with?

785
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: It's so selfish and just childish.

786
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: Well, if he's getting to play house with Brooke and

787
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: he's getting to play professional with Lindsay and like kind

788
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 4: of fulfill those needs with those two chicks, I don't

789
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: necessarily know what he's getting out of, like the Peytent thing.

790
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.

791
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: A Peytent thing could be just the idea of what

792
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: what was, what used to be, And do I really

793
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: want to let go of the possibility of how romantic,

794
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: especially as a writer, how romantic it is to fall

795
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: in love with your first love and have go through

796
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: all this and then come back together and have it work.

797
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: I think that's a really appealing storyline, personal storyline in

798
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: the mind of a writer for their own life. So

799
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: I would think that that's sort of what he's getting

800
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: out of the Peytent thing.

801
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 4: Sophia, did they make you think that you guys were

802
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: like back on the path after that whole play in

803
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: house scene.

804
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: No, No, they were always really clear by this point.

805
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: But I think because there was so much energy around,

806
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: like you know, you and I and the love triangle

807
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: was so good for business, and there was so much

808
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: like remember this was the era of like those message boards.

809
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: There was so much like team message hearts where I

810
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well team Brook and Brook and Peyton

811
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: are on each other's team, right, the boy has to

812
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: earn one of them. But there was so much about

813
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to please the fan bases, and so there was

814
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of yo yoing, at least as I was

815
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: aware of it. That was very strategic where it was like,

816
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: we're going to make everybody think you guys have best

817
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: friend energy not dissimilar to Lucas and Haley. We'll put

818
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: Lucas and Brook in that category and then people will

819
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: say it's because they're in love, and then people will

820
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: say he can't be with Lindsay because he's in love

821
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: with Peyton, and like they really wanted to play that up,

822
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: like who is Lucas gonna end up.

823
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: With poor Chad?

824
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Like I know, and to your point, joy like sort

825
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: of there was a lot in this episode that felt

826
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: like it referenced our early seasons in the dynamic mm hmm,

827
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: and like I think they really wanted to get back

828
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: to that, like Willy or Woney with us from season one.

829
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: I mean, but for him, was he ever vilified? Like

830
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: I know, like the Brook fans hated Peyton and the

831
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: Peyton fans were like, God, damn it, bro get out

832
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: of the way. Was Lucas ever in trouble with the

833
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: fan base.

834
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think they all just loved.

835
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: All that, all that brootia. Well here's what I'll say.

836
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: Chad was always great with kids. Seeing him with the

837
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: baby in this episode was handsome, like he yeah, I

838
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: like you know, even when like Peyton and Lucas have

839
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: their baby together that day, well, you know, when we

840
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: would shoot stuff with the baby, I was just like, wow,

841
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: you are good at this. How many younger siblings does

842
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: he have in real life? He's got He's got a

843
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: bunch of siblings.

844
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: Aren't there four of them?

845
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what the I know he.

846
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: Had like a little sister, so like the little girl thing,

847
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: he was already good at. And I liked seeing that

848
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 4: baby just smile at him. You know, there were girls

849
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 4: at home that were like what I wouldn't give to

850
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 4: be a baby and she sitting on his lap right now.

851
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: I did love that though, seeing Brooke and Lucas just

852
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: being friendly and helping each other out, and yeah, yeah,

853
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to be young and have a new baby

854
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: suddenly thrust on you, and then to have a man

855
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: who's willing to be nurturing and show up and help

856
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: out it was lovely.

857
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: Well, and to have a friend who can be supportive,

858
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: and I thought it was so sweet, you know, the nerves.

859
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: I remember that line asking him like does everyone know

860
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: more about babies than me? Which made me giggle because

861
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I took care of other

862
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: people's kids to like pay my bills, So I was like,

863
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: it's funny to have to play a person who doesn't

864
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: know what to do with the baby.

865
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, it was kind of.

866
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: Cool that the Lucas character then talks about what it's

867
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: like to have a little sister born when you're eighteen,

868
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, Nia and I talk about that a lot.

869
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: My best friend has younger siblings who were born when

870
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: she was a teenager, and she's she always jokes like, yeah, well,

871
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: what it's like to be the first pancake. That's like

872
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: a little misshapen and a little you know, like your

873
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: young parents have no idea what they're doing. And then

874
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: like when they're older and they have their lives figured

875
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: out and they have this next wave of kids, they're like, yeah,

876
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: we're pros at this.

877
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: And I don't know.

878
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: I love the dynamic of somebody being like, yeah, I

879
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: know because I have a sibling, but essentially I'm an uncle.

880
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: And it was sweet. And in the same way that

881
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: I liked watching Haley and Lucas, I liked watching Brooke

882
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: and Lucas. I like seeing these strong friendships in dynamics that,

883
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest. On teen dramas, usually when

884
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: you got a boy and a girl on screen, it's romance,

885
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: and it's refreshing to see platonic friendship.

886
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he's not playing anything suggestive right like he

887
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: could have.

888
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: He seems like he's really trying to do the right thing,

889
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: like he's trying to stick the course with Lindsay and

890
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: really commit to it.

891
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: Well, if he's feeling so lonely because he's in that house,

892
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: like he begged that chick, let's spend the night. Please

893
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: keep the key, keep the key, he said, this is

894
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: your home, and she puts it on the dresser. That

895
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 4: was that hurt.

896
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: It hurt, and the great way that Paul directed the

897
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: misdirect her walking in with that big overnight bag. I

898
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: was like, what's happening, what's going on? And she was

899
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: just coming to get the rest of hers. I was like,

900
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: oh my god, telling you she could have said yes,

901
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: and then coming in with that empty bag.

902
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: To pack up.

903
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Lindsey, Yeah, she's really showing everybody who's

904
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: boxing out.

905
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: She's out, and sitting in an empty house after you've

906
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: been rejected is a terrible feeling, you know. Lucas was

907
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: like that baby, this baby can stay all week. You'll

908
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 4: just I guess what, Brooke, I got a kid grip.

909
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 4: You want a key, spare key's right here.

910
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: Please, I had it made for you today, did Joe?

911
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: I love it? I love it. No, that's a that's

912
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: a sweet energy. I thought the family stuff was really sweet.

913
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: I loved seeing Lucas and Nathan talk to each other

914
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: in this episode at the birthday party and just kind

915
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: of like confide in one another where it's like I

916
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: have best friend status and I have husband status. There's

917
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: just a real camaraderie there that makes the Dan stuff

918
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: really pop because it's like all of these people love

919
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: each other and they're setting a boundary with this guy

920
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: as a unit. And it's still hard.

921
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah sad to see him tell his son I have

922
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: six months to live and have Nathan leave. And yet

923
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: what else was he going to do. It's the boy

924
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: who cried Wolf, like he's just burnt all the bridges.

925
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Nobody believes Dan at this point.

926
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: No can I say it? He's never looked better like

927
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: evil man with his haircut and this tamb like Dan

928
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: Scott has never looked better. Allow.

929
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: It looked like he's got six months alone.

930
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: No, No, And I thought there was a there was

931
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: a moment where I thought deb was going to open

932
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: that door and be like, Okay, what's up? And she didn't.

933
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: Good for her, I'm a weaker woman than Deb. But

934
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: him offering Nathan his childhood sanctuary and Nathan rejecting it

935
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: is a big metaphorical decision. I liked that he was like,

936
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm not going to give my son the same childhood

937
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: that I had. I refuse.

938
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, And on that sort of theme of nostalgia,

939
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Dan giving Jamie Nathan's first jersey. He's really trying to

940
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: pull Nathan back into these happier times childhood we could

941
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: go back, and Nathan's just not taking the bait. And

942
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: it's really it's really nice to watch, you know, he's

943
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: really standing.

944
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: In his.

945
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: Fatherhood and his manhood and just saying I'm not going

946
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: to be like you.

947
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to let you continue to take

948
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: advantage of me. I mean it's been just doing it

949
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: for years and years and years. Yeah, it's to the

950
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: point on the show now where we've just after watching

951
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: these episodes so much, I'm like, I don't believe I

952
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 2: don't even believe him. How do we even know it's true? Yeah?

953
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: And even if you can, it's he only feels bad

954
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: when it affects him, when it's you know, he's just

955
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 2: totally incapable of empathy.

956
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: The thing that wrapped all of this up really nicely

957
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: for me, and that I loved watching through the whole

958
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: end of the episode was actually the conversation that Brooke

959
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: and Lucas got to have together them being friends. To me,

960
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: teed up everyone's sort of ending montage because she asks him,

961
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, is this how you thought our lives would

962
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: turn out? Do you ever do you ever want to

963
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: go back? Would you do it differently? And he gets

964
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: to admit, you know, I think we have to work

965
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: through all this stuff, And like, that's such a theme that,

966
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: for whatever reason I find myself exploring in a lot

967
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: of conversations with friends right now, like, no matter how

968
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: hard things have been, I wouldn't change anything. My friends

969
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: are like same, wouldn't change anything to get to this point.

970
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: And then freaking Adele kicks in with hometown. What the

971
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: what a sink we got?

972
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: Everyone is in.

973
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: This place that they need to be, that they've worked

974
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: to get, however hard it's been to get here. And

975
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: you see all these lovely things happening, people being in

976
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: these good zones, the three of you as a family,

977
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, Mauf and Milly and the guys and Lucas

978
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: and Angie and Brooke and this new friendship, and like

979
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: it goes through all this stuff, and then Dan talking

980
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: about hometown glory, gets shut down by the son who

981
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be like him. His work working through

982
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: all this stuff, like Lucas said, has been to be

983
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: a different man. And I was like, Okay, all my

984
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: criticisms for this episode out of the window. I am

985
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: into this ending Mondogy take it. I'm here for it.

986
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: Like I felt like they wrapped it up in a

987
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: way that I really got what we were trying to

988
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: say to people.

989
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

990
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Adele, How did we get that Adele.

991
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: Wait?

992
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: Was she was she Adele when we got that song?

993
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: Or was she? Did she have an album? Was this

994
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: before twenty one came out?

995
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean this was right at the beginning.

996
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: She was just a baby.

997
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think her album probably came out in two

998
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: thousand and eight.

999
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: It's crazy crazy, It's.

1000
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: Amazing that we got that.

1001
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: I know.

1002
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: I was like that voice.

1003
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Wait, I was like, is this happening right now?

1004
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: This is like when somebody said, you know, oh, we've

1005
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: got this great new artist. We want to put it

1006
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: on Wintrey Hill, we need some placements on TV.

1007
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this album called nineteen?

1008
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: Like?

1009
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Excuse you?

1010
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? It did it?

1011
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: Did?

1012
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: It came out in two thousand and eight?

1013
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 4: Love it?

1014
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Lindsay Wolfington.

1015
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: That's my honorable mention since we're throwing him out here. Yeah,

1016
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: Adele is my honorable mention for sure.

1017
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Barbara for this one because I

1018
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: just think she she commits like nobody else, just so good.

1019
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm raising my hand and saying I got to actually

1020
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: do a tie. The Adele sink big and for me,

1021
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: the platonic friendship energy I really enjoyed because you got

1022
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: to do it Joy, and so did I, and.

1023
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: So did Millie.

1024
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Millie did with the boys that's a really

1025
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: good point less one on one but as a group.

1026
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: And Peyton with skills Yeah, you're right.

1027
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: God, yep, and Hayley with skills. There was just so

1028
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: much good.

1029
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really love it. It just adds a vibe

1030
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: like not everything has to be romance all the time,

1031
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: and I love it.

1032
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm into all of that. I mean, look, overall,

1033
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: I liked this episode.

1034
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

1035
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: I thought I had some dick jokes that I wasn't

1036
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 4: crazy about. But what doesn't you.

1037
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Know, especially in two thousand and eight, Yeah.

1038
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: Two thousand and eight. We're gonna look at it through

1039
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: that less obsessed.

1040
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: All right, we have a listener question.

1041
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is it?

1042
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: From Melissa? Him? Melissa? Why do they have Jamie's birthday

1043
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: in the middle of basketball season, but Haley went into

1044
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: labor on graduation day?

1045
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 4: Someone's been paid attention?

1046
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah that is we could have used you in the

1047
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: writer's room, Melissa.

1048
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, where were you in two thousand and eight? Melissa? Yeah,

1049
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense.

1050
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Nope, yeah, no's we cannot answer your question with anything reasonable. No,

1051
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: good excuses writers strike. Yeah, I guess you.

1052
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: Know what they do for my daughter's kindergarten. She's five,

1053
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: Jamie's five. Is that all the summer birthdays celebrate half

1054
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: birthdays because no one's around in the summer for parties.

1055
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: That's literally the only thing I can think of to

1056
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: tell you, Melissa, is that it's his half birthday. It's

1057
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 4: not his real birthday. That's all I got.

1058
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: It's his un birthday.

1059
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 4: Very unhappy birthday to you.

1060
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: I like you, sho we spend a wheel.

1061
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 4: I want to.

1062
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: The lord.

1063
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: Who's most likely to go viral on TikTok? All right,

1064
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: I've got an answer because we don't see her, and

1065
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 4: I think it's a missed opportunity. I think Lucas's little sister, Lily,

1066
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: being like a remote kid is all about like TikTok life, Yes,

1067
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: especially because she's like in her early twenties now. Yeah,

1068
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 4: she's doing all those little silly dances where she's like

1069
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 4: tapping her hips and clapping her hands.

1070
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: And especially being a kid to your point who grew up.

1071
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: When you said remote, it made me think about like

1072
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: her life traveling with these fancy parents, Like you know,

1073
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: she's probably like a modern era, like bind Or Win

1074
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: meets Emily in Paris. Yeah, she has an interesting life

1075
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: for people to follow on the internet. Yeah, and you

1076
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: know she's Karen's kids, so she's probably a really nice person.

1077
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Remember Karen would always say like dorky mom shit

1078
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: like I can only imagine Karen's TikTok assessment. Oh my god,

1079
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: like I'll do a dance with you? Oh sure, laying

1080
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 4: it on real thick who does TikTok in real life?

1081
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: Because I don't have TikTok, so I don't know who

1082
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: of our friends is on there.

1083
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean Barbara, Barbara's daughters. Oh yeah, I don't know

1084
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: who else.

1085
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 4: I mean Grace who played Baby Jenny made me do

1086
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 4: a TikTok video with her when we were at one

1087
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: of the conventions. It was like her and a bunch

1088
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: of the other young actresses for like, let's do a

1089
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 4: TikTok dance, and I was the old person being like,

1090
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: I'll stand in the back, I'll clap are you all right? Well,

1091
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: if you guys are making TikTok videos about drama queens,

1092
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: make sure you tag us because I don't know how

1093
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: to do it. So I'm glad you are well.

1094
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: Come back next week, everybody. Next episode's gonna be Season five,

1095
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 2: episode sixteen. Crime won't help you now. Oh, I can't

1096
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: wait to see what happens.

1097
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Then that makes me nervous. Sometimes the titles, I go,

1098
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: oh boy, what are we in for? Yeah, we'll find

1099
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: out next week.

1100
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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening.

1101
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1102
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's Oth.

1103
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

1104
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: See you next time.

1105
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 1: We all about that high school drama. Girl Drama Girl,

1106
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: all about them high school queens.

1107
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride at our comic Girl

1108
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: Cheering for the right teams.

1109
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: Drama Queens, My gol up girl fashion, but your tough

1110
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: girl

1111
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: You could sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drama Queens,

1112
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: Drama Queens, Drama Drama Queens Drama Queens