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Speaker 1: and thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton. So, gentlemen, we

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Speaker 1: have reached the month of April, which means the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft is just weeks away, a little over three weeks away,

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Speaker 1: and the number three overall pick has got the league

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Speaker 1: a buzz as far as what the Cardinals may or

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Speaker 1: may not do. But this is also Yes, it's the offseason, Paulie,

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Speaker 1: but it's also the silly season because a lot gets

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Speaker 1: written said, and how much do you believe or really

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Speaker 1: consider to be truth out there. I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I believe what the two of you are going to

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Speaker 1: tell me over the next hour. Beyond that, in this

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Speaker 1: month April on the NFL little else, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: leave it right there. We have stuff flying everywhere, rumors

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Speaker 1: and reports, and teams jockeying for position and maybe trying

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Speaker 1: to elevate the status of one guy and downgrade the

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Speaker 1: other to meet their own needs and wants. You have

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Speaker 1: stuff flying out there about how Houston might take Will Anderson.

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Speaker 1: Come on, now, Houston needs a franchise quarterback. They're in

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Speaker 1: prime position to take a franchise quarterback. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to pass on a franchise quarterback at number two. That's

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Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. We hear anything and everything this

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Speaker 1: time of year, and that's part of the reason why

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Speaker 1: we're here, because we just speak the truth here on

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals red seat report. But this also Drew. It's

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Speaker 1: all sense of fun as well, because leave it to

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. You only play seventeen games, it's

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Speaker 1: really half the year. But here we are in the

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Speaker 1: month of April and it's still dominating the conversation. Oh

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Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, that's the point of this league,

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Speaker 1: right They found a way to extend it out in

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Speaker 1: April fools. They came and went and we're still getting

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Speaker 1: all of these jokes that they want to throw out

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Speaker 1: there on Twitter and everybody's saying, Okay, this person's going

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Speaker 1: to trade up to this slot. It's all speculation until

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Speaker 1: it comes, you know. You know, and you're very well

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Speaker 1: aware of these gms that go through mock draft situations

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Speaker 1: big proponent of making sure that the Texans do draft

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback for the very reason that Paulie talked about,

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Speaker 1: because we need a pass rusher. And you look at

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Speaker 1: all these things. Now, if that pass rusher is not there,

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Speaker 1: do you trade back accumulate picks? Again? You go through

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Speaker 1: these scenarios in these situations and they're all what ifs.

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Speaker 1: Everything is a what if right now? The one not

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Speaker 1: what if as you're talking about the beginning of April

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Speaker 1: off season program, especially with new head coaches. You're in

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Speaker 1: can't get too far away from this. There's a slow

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Speaker 1: conversation that we've had a number of times here on

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer Sports Illustrated, appearing on the Greg Madard Patriots

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Speaker 1: And before we have ourn table discussion on de hop

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Speaker 1: surprised if DeAndre Hopkins was released. I've been surprised before.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to this level saying that, and it's

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Speaker 1: possible that you can turn things around. You can get

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Speaker 1: some centerpiece or integral cornerstone like a Lane Johnson or

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Speaker 1: a Will and Orson to be able to get after

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Those guys can change the complexity of an

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Speaker 1: entire side of the ball that can and then permeate

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Speaker 1: throughout the entire locker room. Because yes, their skill sets

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Speaker 1: a certain way. But even hearing Will Anderson talk about

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Speaker 1: how he approaches the game, what his mentality is, that's infectious.

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Speaker 1: That's when you get through training camp and the guy's

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Speaker 1: still going all out and making the person across from

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Speaker 1: you better, not saying, hey, we're going to brother in

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Speaker 1: law this, and hey, let's just try and get through

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Speaker 1: today because I don't really feel like doing it. Those

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Speaker 1: things are possible, but when you have to take an

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Speaker 1: honest assessment of what's going on, yes you're not going

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Speaker 1: to project that out to everybody else, but when you're inside,

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Speaker 1: you're building and saying, man, we are in a rebuild

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Speaker 1: right now. We are having to do a lot of

448
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Speaker 1: different things because we're going in a different direction than

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Speaker 1: what was here before. And that's just the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter of what's going on within this building. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not a rebuild per se, because you still have

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Speaker 1: some marquee players that you want to build around. But

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of retooling, a lot of reloading

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Speaker 1: at different areas because they've been neglected for a period

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Speaker 1: of time of saying, well, this has been a major

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Speaker 1: week and we have not addressed it. It has to

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Speaker 1: be addressed immediately. And that message I think Paul will come, well,

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Speaker 1: it will come daily, But really that message is when

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon is around his players beginning a week from today. Informally, yes,

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Speaker 1: but you want to hammer that home immediately. Set what

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Speaker 1: you believe is the example and what your expectation is.

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Speaker 1: And he talked about that during his introductory press conference.

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Speaker 1: There is going to be an expectation. I have an

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Speaker 1: expectation of what I want this team to be and

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Speaker 1: what I want you as players to be. Now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's back onto the players and showing

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Speaker 1: that that they're in this thing. Whether it's one year,

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Speaker 1: two years, or three years. I think they're building the

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Speaker 1: mindset as much as they're building the skill set. Right now,

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Speaker 1: that accountability that Michael Bidwell cited as a problem when

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Speaker 1: he made changes in the coaching staff. When they make

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Speaker 1: changes in the roster, they're looking for a certain mindset.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at a lot of the players

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Speaker 1: who have been signed, whether it's a Kaiser Woods, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a Zach Pascal, whether it's a Josh Woods, I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at some of these guys. Hey, you

477
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Speaker 1: can use the word dog, I think to describe every

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Speaker 1: one of them. Now, are these guys going to be

479
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Speaker 1: elite pro bowlers? No, not necessarily, but it's going to

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Speaker 1: be that mindset you're building in that locker room. We

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Speaker 1: talk about building this roster from the inside out, O line,

482
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Speaker 1: D line, you're also building from the inside out, I think,

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Speaker 1: from the locker room on the way out, just in

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Speaker 1: terms of the type of player you're bringing in. And

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Speaker 1: guess what, almost every team takes on the identity of

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Speaker 1: its head coach, and Jonathan Gannon has that similar mindset,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're looking for players to fit that

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Speaker 1: type well. Zach Pascal, a Kaiser White, guys that were

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia last season with Jonathan Gannon to figure out, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what the expectation is for this new head coach.

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Speaker 1: We're all trying to figure out exactly what Gannon is

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Speaker 1: going to be as a head coach. So we're always

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Speaker 1: looking for different antidotes, different stories. How about this a

494
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Speaker 1: week ago on The Big Red Rage, former Cardinals Kerry

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Speaker 1: Rhodes talking about Jonathan Ganning, who he knows very very

496
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Speaker 1: well former teammates in college at Louisville. The guy was like, eat, drink,

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Speaker 1: slept football. I mean, and so you know when when

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Speaker 1: he had the catastrophic injury with the hip that happened

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Speaker 1: right away, just started kind of getting that coaching bug,

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Speaker 1: and he knew he was going to be a great

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Speaker 1: one at that His energy is palpable, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: endless his energy. Was he that way in college? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's him. That's what And that's what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 1: guys are getting a version of this guy. That's it's

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Speaker 1: not up front. It's not something that he's putting on

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Speaker 1: for you know, as as he's uh, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of developed his coaching acerman. But it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: even about that. That's who he is and to see

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Speaker 1: him throughout these years still be that guy and not

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Speaker 1: change and it's it's it's a beautiful thing to say, Drew.

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Speaker 1: Players don't like when coaches aren't genuine, when they're not real,

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Speaker 1: when they're just putting on his show, whether it's that

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Speaker 1: first team meeting and then you acting differently the next day.

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Speaker 1: Just in the brief interactions that we've had with Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gann and he is that highly motivated, highly energetic person

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Speaker 1: every single day, whether players are here or not, whether

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Speaker 1: there are cameras around or not. Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to be said for consistency, right, and that's

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Speaker 1: what you really want to do, because, as Paul said,

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Speaker 1: that's the tone setter of what this organization is going

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Speaker 1: to be. The general manager can help pieces together, he

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Speaker 1: can put his imprint on it, but the head coach

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Speaker 1: is going to be able to be around the players

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Speaker 1: every single day. He's going to have all these interactions

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Speaker 1: where he's got to get the most out of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Energy is a great thing, it really is. You've got

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Speaker 1: to be able to balance that ultimately, though it's measured

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Speaker 1: by wins and losses. It's hard to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of great energy when you hit these skids or you

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Speaker 1: have to find ways to say the same thing differently.

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Speaker 1: You can't just sit there and be apathetic and do

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Speaker 1: all these things. So hopefully he brings this energy every

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Speaker 1: single day. It's going to be exciting when he gets

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Speaker 1: all of his first if you will, his first opportunity

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Speaker 1: to get amongst the team, his first opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines and be the head coach, his first

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Speaker 1: opportunity to preseason game and a regular season game. As

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Speaker 1: these things come and he starts to realize the different

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Speaker 1: rivalries of what it means to be in this division,

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Speaker 1: of what that all looks like. It's vastly different when

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Speaker 1: you get to be the defensive coordinator because you're a

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Speaker 1: coach at that point. When you become the head coach,

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Speaker 1: you are a facilitator. At that point, you are sitting

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Speaker 1: there and the identity is taken for the team, but

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Speaker 1: it's not as much scheme as it is you making

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Speaker 1: sure that you get the most out of your players.

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Speaker 1: And the energy that he brings is going to really

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Speaker 1: help this team when it's needed most. It kind of

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Speaker 1: reminds me of coach Double Rainbow, and I like to

550
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Speaker 1: have fun with Pete Carroll, but he has a culture

551
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Speaker 1: in Seattle and they put formidable teams on the field.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to tell Drew about that. And they always

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Speaker 1: bring a certain energy and a certain physicality. I look

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Speaker 1: at Jonathan Gannon in some ways as Pete Carroll thirty

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Speaker 1: years younger, just that infectious personality. We haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: out on the field yet. But here's Zach Pascal talking

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Speaker 1: about his days going against JG. Zach Pascal was a

558
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Speaker 1: receiver with the Colts and JG was the DBS coach

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Speaker 1: for the Colts, and just the trash talking and the

560
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: competitive fire and the back and forth. I think that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons they brought in a Zach Pascal.

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Speaker 1: I fully expect that to be out on that field

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Speaker 1: on display for everyone to witness, and the standard will

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Speaker 1: be set, the expectation will be set for everyone that

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Speaker 1: this is how we compete every day. And here's the

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Speaker 1: hope that I have. Again, it is voluntary beginning next Tuesday,

567
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Speaker 1: but there's also a voluntary veteran mini camp the week

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Speaker 1: of the draft that Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, where you can

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Speaker 1: do a little bit more, get a little bit more

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Speaker 1: interaction amongst your position groups, because I hope that there

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Speaker 1: is buy in and we'll never know who's here, who's

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00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: not here, and the attendance. But if you agreed to

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Speaker 1: come to the Arizona Cardinals as a free agent, and

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Speaker 1: those young players that are in that locker room still

575
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: trying to make a name for themselves, I really hope

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Speaker 1: you're in that facility here every single day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: anybody out there as job. If you have a new boss, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you're on your best behavior, trying to make

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Speaker 1: a pretty good first impression if possible. Right, first impressions matter.

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Speaker 1: You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

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Speaker 1: We've hit halftime here on the Cardinals Red Sea Reports

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Speaker 1: presented by Sea Keek your ticket to great seats. Two

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Speaker 1: receivers to McCoy's right. He takes the shotgun staff prows

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Speaker 1: to the left side of McBride. Caught it at the

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Speaker 1: thirty five and he's got a first down before he's

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Speaker 1: bumped out. Pass to the left, caught again by McBride

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Speaker 1: inside the thirty fighting for yardage. McSorley moving to his right,

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Speaker 1: throwing on the run. It's caught for a first down.

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Speaker 1: By McBride and he stepped out of bounds at the

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Speaker 1: forty nine of Denver. Remember this is a homecoming of

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Speaker 1: sorts for him, having played in Colorado's state and winning

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Speaker 1: the Mackie Award last year, which goes to college football's

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Speaker 1: best tight end. Mcsorley's passed across the middle, caught by

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Speaker 1: McBride a first down and pass the forty five fifty

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Speaker 1: good Ron McBride running through arm tackles after the catch

596
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Speaker 1: to the forty five of Denver really saw Trey McBride

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Speaker 1: coming to his own the latter half of last season,

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Speaker 1: his rookie season. The former second round draft pick of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, Trey McBride now about to enter year

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Speaker 1: two with the Arizona Cardinals. As we continue hearing the

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Speaker 1: to Great Seats. We don't talk a lot about the

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Speaker 1: tight end position, but as much question marks as there

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Speaker 1: are with wide receiver, especially with DeAndre Hopkins, how much

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Speaker 1: more do we see the tight end position utilize? But

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Speaker 1: right now, Paul, when you look at the number of

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Speaker 1: tight ends on the roster, yeah they have a good number,

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Speaker 1: but how many of them are actually viable. Zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: you don't know about his status after tearing his ACL

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Speaker 1: and undergoing surgery in November. McBride right now is tied

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Speaker 1: end one. You're gonna need more than just Trey McBride

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Speaker 1: going into week one. By the way, over the course

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Speaker 1: you're intro here in real time. NFL Network just went

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Speaker 1: from talking about how Indie might trade up from number

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Speaker 1: four to get a quarterback and Tennessee might do the

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Speaker 1: same trading up from number eleven. So hopefully maniasa Ford

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Speaker 1: as we speak, is pitting these two teams against each

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Speaker 1: other because where are they going to trade up to?

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Speaker 1: Obviously number three, So that's neither here nor there. Just

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Speaker 1: giving you a a real time update on the whole trade

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Speaker 1: situation right now. In the draft. As for tight end,

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Speaker 1: speaking to the draft, it's loaded. It's considered one of

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Speaker 1: the strongest tight end drafts in many, many years. For example,

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Speaker 1: most of the draft analysts say that in a typical

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Speaker 1: draft or the first hundred picks, you'll get four tight

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Speaker 1: ends taken. This year there could be eight. It's really deep.

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Speaker 1: So I would not be shocked at all if the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals on Day two and most definitely Day three took

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Speaker 1: a tight end or even two considering the depth issues

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Speaker 1: right now, considering the injury status of zach Ertz, which

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Speaker 1: is an unknown. He had surgery when November eighteenth, okay,

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Speaker 1: so who knows exactly when and where he'll be ready

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Speaker 1: over the course of this season. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: town of players in this draft, and I would not

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Speaker 1: be shocked, especially since Jonathan in and And And one of

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Speaker 1: his early interviews after being hired by the Cardinals said

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to live in eleven, twelve, and

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Speaker 1: even thirteen personnel. He is a big fan of using

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Speaker 1: the tight end, Drew Pets and has history using the

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Speaker 1: tight end. Cleveland had a loaded tight end room, So okay,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean for the Cardinals. We don't know

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Speaker 1: what this offense will look like with or without Kyler

643
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Murray early in the season, Drew, but you go back

644
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: on what Philadelphia did well and zach Ertz played for

645
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Goddard. They utilize two tight

646
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: ends very well, Drew Pet with the Cleveland Browns. How

647
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: much was the tight end utilize in the Cleveland Browns offense?

648
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: The running back position as well? Because those two offenses

649
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: were more ground and pound as far as seven step drop,

650
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: let me airmail it down the field. Yeah, exactly. Well,

651
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: you're also talking about a fullback that we haven't seen

652
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: around here for a long long time. So that's another

653
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: person you can put in there. You could probably find

654
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: him in Cleveland if he's the backup fullback. You know,

655
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: if Drew Petson wants to bring him in. Somebody like

656
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: that that knows the system a little bit. Again, it's

657
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: old school football. You know, maybe Wolf maybe wants to

658
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: sign another contractor would depend on what he's got left

659
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: in the tank. But tight ends, I wouldn't be surprised too,

660
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: And Paul brings up a really good point. I was

661
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. They drafted Kobe Fleiner in the second round.

662
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: They got Dwayne Allen in the third round after they

663
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: drafted Andrew Luck. So teams are capable of doing it

664
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: if they get those guys. You would like to be

665
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: able to interject a little bit more of having a

666
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: veteran because you put a premium on the position last

667
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: year by getting Tray McBride and drafting him as high

668
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: as he was. At the same time, veteran tight ends

669
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: are out there still. Maybe they're waiting because they're not.

670
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: There's not a huge premium on those guys, depending on

671
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: what you want to do, how they're going to fit

672
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: into eater scheme, what they're going to be like, there's

673
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: a lot of quote unquote journeyman tight ends that can

674
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: come at the right price. But maybe they're just waiting

675
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: to see what's going to be drafted they want. You know,

676
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of that is getting in the right situation

677
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: because those guys are also going to be playing special

678
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: teams from you, and so being able to be on

679
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: special teams and contribute there, being active on game day.

680
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: All of these things fit into the puzzle that you're

681
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: trying to do when you're constructing a team. That's why

682
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: tight ends kind of unique. Of well, you know, do

683
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: they go to the offensive line coach and learn the

684
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: offensive line play from there? As far as the run

685
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: schemes conn you know concerned are they looking at the

686
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach from more of the past game install

687
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: So all of this isn't work in progress, but the

688
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: lack of depth and numbers are alarming right now. Yeah,

689
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: besides Ertz and McBride, you got Chris Pears, who was

690
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad mid season a year ago.

691
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Bernhard Psychovitz, who has spent the past two seasons as

692
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: part of the International Player Pathway program. I like what

693
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I see when I do see Psycho on the football field,

694
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: but just how raw is he still after two seasons?

695
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: And then another name that kind of flew under the

696
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: radar Noah Tongei, who was signed three days after Jonathan

697
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Gannon was hired. Tongy I spent the past two seasons

698
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. All now, he doesn't have any catches

699
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: over seven career games, but someone that Gannon knows and

700
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: wants to bring in either as someone that knows what

701
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: offense Gannon will like to run and be in that

702
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: tight end room, as an extra set of eyes, another

703
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: coach on the field, if you will. Or Gannon has

704
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: seen something over these past two seasons, and Noah just

705
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity. But there's an opportunity here well,

706
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: and you need bodies, I mean, you need bodies just

707
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: to get through some of these offseason activities and until

708
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: you get to the draft and beyond. So in a

709
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp in June, you don't know how the

710
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: draft is going to play out. You don't know how

711
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: many tight ends, if any, you'll end up with, you know,

712
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: once you conclude things in the three days. So yeah,

713
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't you know. Look, a lot of these guys

714
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: are signed. They don't have a big track record, They

715
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: might not even make the final fifty three. But there

716
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: are Cardinals for now. If you're looking at this draft,

717
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: because I was looking at it, okay, who could be realistic?

718
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Maybe not the elite group of tight ends, but if

719
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: you're going to tight end, you Iowa Sam Laporta is

720
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: a guy six three, two forty five. And it's interesting

721
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of the takes on this guy is

722
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: he's highly skilled, he could really flourish in the NFL.

723
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: Iowa had the most boring offense if any Power five

724
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: school last year. He's totally underutilized. And then there's the

725
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: kid out of Cincinnati, Josh Wiley, who could have gone

726
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: to any of the elite programs around the country supposedly,

727
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: but he's a Cincinnati guy, so he went to the

728
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: nearby Bearcats team six six, two fifty had fifteen touchdown

729
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: catches last season alone. So I could see the Cardinals

730
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: on Day two or three are going after one of

731
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: these guys if they fall. Cardinals have two third round

732
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: selections sixty six and ninety six, and then a fourth

733
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: round selection at one oh five. And if you can

734
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: find a tight end in the third round fourth round, Drew,

735
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: to your point, you're drafting two maybe one in the

736
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: third round and another one would pick one sixty eight

737
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Cardinals right now don't have a

738
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: seventh round selection. And what happens if you trade DeAndre Hopkins?

739
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: How many picks potentially there? And because Drew needs a

740
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: hot take right now, what happens if you trade Isaiah Simmons?

741
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: What sort of return do you get for an Isaiah

742
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Simmons if he's a draft day trade. By the way,

743
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: you notice true how often Polly trade is looking to

744
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: get rid of players but not really bringing anyone back

745
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: in return, just draft picks. I can't do everything around here.

746
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: Don't make me go up to the war room. I

747
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: will speaking of the draft some intrigue at position number

748
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: three more here on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. My

749
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: keycard doesn't get me into the war room. Florida's first

750
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: offensive player Richardson fake the bootpill load it I've been

751
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: caught in loose with that big barn touchdown Gators. Here

752
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: goes Richardson on strider and keeps his ballance. What a

753
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: one by Anthony Richardson, Superman in Richardson trying to find

754
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: him in an insoe touchdown. Richardson all day Rifle said,

755
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: down a side toucht Florida seventy eight yards better than

756
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred passing yards, seventeen touchdowns, nine interceptions. Talking

757
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: about Florida Gator quarterback Anthony Richardson maybe the wild card

758
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: in the draft when you talk about quarterbacks. Six foot four,

759
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty two pounds, he looks every bits

760
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that anyone would want as a quarterback, either under center,

761
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun. The question, though, is he hasn't

762
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: done it for very long, just one year as a

763
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: full time starter, and you go to not the touchdowns

764
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and interceptions, but the completion percentage up fifty three point

765
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: eight percents, and just looking at his game log, the

766
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: best percentage of any game was eighty percent, but that

767
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: was when he attempted just ten passes in a win

768
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: over Eastern Washington. So there's a lot unknown, but based

769
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: off where this league is going and has gone now

770
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: for a number of years. Teams are either looking for

771
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback or already have one. And the question is,

772
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: is Richardson a franchise quarterback? Are you asking me? I

773
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: am asking you No, He's not a franchise quarterback for

774
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: multiple reasons. The completion percentage is extremely alarming. That's the

775
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: starting point. The other point that you get to is

776
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: the question marks are too large. From the standpoint of

777
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: he's at Florida, the record was six and seven. I

778
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: believe you have no idea what you're getting when you

779
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: are dealing with a quarterback at that caliber because this

780
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: game comes down to the last two minutes. How many

781
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: games of those games that when he's out on the

782
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: field are you being able to assess can he go

783
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: win a football game for you? That's where my biggest

784
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: reservation comes, as these guys in college that either haven't

785
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: been in tight football games or when the games on

786
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: the line, that's each and every Sunday, you got to

787
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: go out there. So you couple your college record, which

788
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: again I'm meaning completely honest mind was not great at

789
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Michigan State. I'll be the first to admit that but

790
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: you look at his college record of what he was

791
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: able to accomplish, and you couple that with the subpar

792
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: completion percentage, The measurables are off the charts. Those are phenomenal,

793
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: But this position in particular is so much more than

794
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: just measurables. The two things that you look at our

795
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: most important are winning and completion percentage. In my opinion,

796
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: when you're assessing quarterbacks. That's why when I got into

797
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: the league and I was trying to survive as a backup,

798
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I didn't care about any other stat wins, losses. That's

799
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: how you're measured as a quarterback in college. His aren't

800
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: very good. What makes you think that when he gets

801
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: to an NFL team that he's going to be able

802
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: to flip the script and do that. Plus he hasn't

803
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: been asked to do that a lot because apparently he

804
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do it when he was at Florida. Yeah,

805
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: if you're that good, why was in Florida better? Because

806
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback is supposed to uplift everyone, not just on offense,

807
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: but defense as well. So it is a big question mark.

808
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: C J. Strout Bryce young guys who have proven track

809
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: records and have the wins on their resume. That's why

810
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: they're one and two either way, and Richardson becomes, well,

811
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: can we pass on someone that we see could be

812
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback? Exactly? And if you're Will Levis, it's

813
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more understandable. Right, you're at Kentucky. The

814
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: caliber of player that you're getting in. It's a basketball school, right,

815
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: much like Michigan State is. So we're okay, we can

816
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: admit that that we've we've got to fight in claude

817
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: to win football games. When you're at Florida, you get

818
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: your pick of the letter each and every year of

819
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. You've got the Jordan brand logo on

820
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: your shirt. You've got all of these things at your disposal.

821
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: So that's where I think you differentiate a little bit

822
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: between Will Levis of yeah, he's got a strong arm,

823
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: you can do all these things. He also didn't win

824
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: football games. He might be able to, you don't know,

825
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: because he didn't have the talent around him. I would

826
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: argue that everybody at Florida is capable of playing at

827
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: most schools, and the SEC is extremely difficult to get

828
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: all those things, but to have a losing record and

829
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: have a subpark completion percentage. I'm not jumping up to

830
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: get him by any means. So one of the scouts

831
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: told me to go back and look at Week two

832
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Kentucky versus Florida this past season. In that game, Will

833
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: Levis went thirteen to twenty four for two hundred and

834
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: two yards, passing a touchdown in a pick. Anthony Richardson

835
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: in that game win fourteen and thirty five for a

836
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: buck forty three, zero touchdown passes, two interceptions. You're like,

837
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: what happened from week one to week two? Because if

838
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: you remember Florida Jack stomp Utah, a good Utah team

839
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: in Week one last year. Well, turns out in that game,

840
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson ran for over two hundred yards. So Kentucky

841
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: came in put a spy and Anthony Richardson said, you're

842
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball. He couldn't, and they

843
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: lost Florida at home to Kentucky in that game. So

844
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you have that juxtaposed against me A CJ. Stroud, who

845
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: played his best game of his college career in the

846
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: semi final loss against Georgia, the eventual national champion. Right

847
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: in an NFL caliber defense if he goes number one overall,

848
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm guessing a lot of it's based on the fact

849
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: that he bawled out and played his best ball in

850
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: the highest leverage game of the year. The draft is

851
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: about projection. You project this player to be this in

852
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: a year or two or right away. And with Anthony Richardson,

853
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: people are looking back at what Josh Allen did coming

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Speaker 1: from a small school Wyoming. Didn't have a great completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: It was below fifty seven his last year, but he

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Speaker 1: was a two year starter versus a one year starter,

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Speaker 1: and we did see Allen improve his completion percentage. He

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Speaker 1: became more accurate as a passer in the NFL, But

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Speaker 1: that maybe is just the anomaly and not what you

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Speaker 1: expect every quarterback to do from college to the pros.

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Speaker 1: That is not the standard by any means. But you

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Speaker 1: also look at a the player has to be able

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Speaker 1: to admit these are where I need to get better,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's done that right. You look at

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Speaker 1: what Anthony Richardson has said to the media how he's done,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's very receptive to say it. I

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Speaker 1: know I need to get better. I'm an unfinished product.

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Speaker 1: At the same time. There's only so many Brian Dables

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Speaker 1: out there. There's only so many guys that you're going

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Speaker 1: to have around you of Stefan Diggs and going to

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Speaker 1: a good system where you get a little bit of

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Speaker 1: time to develop before they throw you out there. All

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Speaker 1: of these things play into it. Josh Allen is the

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Speaker 1: exception to the rule that you can increase all of

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Speaker 1: these things and saying that it's a similar set of circumstances.

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Speaker 1: There's question marks with every single one of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: If I had to take one, I'm taking Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: His size scares me. Yes, But we're going to have

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Speaker 1: daily conversations about how you don't need to take unwanted hits.

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Speaker 1: You need to get down, you don't need to take

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Speaker 1: this unwarranted risk of saying okay, well it's okay to

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Speaker 1: be Peyton Manning and Eli Manning and get made fun

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Speaker 1: of for always diving in the pocket. They started a

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Speaker 1: lot of get consecutive games. You have to be self

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Speaker 1: aware in every facet to play this position. Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: has heard for a long time. But he's small, he's undersized,

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Speaker 1: he's all of these things. He's a winner, he's a competitor.

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Speaker 1: He single handily won some games for Alabama and did

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Speaker 1: some things, and his demeanor everything about him. I love

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Speaker 1: the one question marks to size. Everybody else has two

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Speaker 1: big a question marks for me to feel good about

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Speaker 1: taking in the top ten. The thing is world would

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Speaker 1: be one team, and that's all. It takes one team

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Speaker 1: to come up to number three. Make the Cardinals an

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Speaker 1: offer for Anthony Richardson just based on the potential, the measurables.

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Speaker 1: It happened with Trey Lance. Guess what. Trey Lance and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson both had thirteen college starts under their belt,

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Speaker 1: and Trey Lance went number three overall in three first

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Speaker 1: round picks were given up. But to Drew's point, I

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Speaker 1: like that about Brian Dable. Looked Brian Dable did in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at Josh Allen, improving the accuracy right in the

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Speaker 1: completion percentage. And then look what he just did with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones turnover machine and the kind of campaign under

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable that Daniel Jones just turn in and just

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Speaker 1: got paid for it. You talk about does one team

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Speaker 1: fall in love with Anthony Richardson? Did I not see?

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Speaker 1: Although Pete Carroll has been taking selfies with every single

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Speaker 1: quarterback prospect out there. But are the Seahawks a possibility

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Speaker 1: at number five? Yeah, you got Gino Smith, But what

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Speaker 1: do you do after that one season with you know Smith?

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Speaker 1: There's even mock drafts that have the Seahawks taking Hendon

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Speaker 1: Hooker at number five. Overall, here's the thing. They take

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Speaker 1: Jaalen Carter and you know, with all due respect to

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Speaker 1: Seattle and the twelves, guess what Jail Carter turns into

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Speaker 1: Robert Kimdici And too bad you waste a number five. Overall,

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Speaker 1: we'll bring this full circle. It is the silly season,

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Speaker 1: three more weeks of drafts. Subterfuge, if you will. It

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