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Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff to talk about. Eric Mangini, former

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Speaker 1: coach of the Jets, Jets and the Steelers, is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers actually in his last three healthy season openers

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Speaker 1: is not only zero for three, but he completes about

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Speaker 1: sixty one percent of his throws. He's lost all three

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Speaker 1: by ten plus points. Is that off field, you know,

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Speaker 1: lack of commitment.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He has moved around to different teams, so some of

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Speaker 1: it's just probably going to be that. But Eric Mangini

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Speaker 3: It is interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pittsburgh's got a new quarterback, in new left tackle,

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Speaker 1: Eric Aaron's always been an interesting guy and where you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a smart guy, so you think, you know, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't mind learning new stuff.

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Speaker 3: But Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know, can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Speaker 1: He likes what he likes. And I look at aaron

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Speaker 1: struggles in season openers and I think the Jets actually

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Speaker 1: have some very interesting personnel defensively. What do you think

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Steelers season opener looks like against his former.

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Speaker 4: Team, Well, it should be really good. He actually has

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Speaker 4: more experience at MetLife than he does playing in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: so he should be very comfortable there. The last time

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Speaker 4: he played there against the Dolphins at the end of

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Speaker 4: last season, he threw four touchdowns and one pick and

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Speaker 4: had one of his best games as a Jet. The

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Speaker 4: other thing is he actually has a better understanding of

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Speaker 4: Jets defensive personnel than anybody on the Steelers. He spent

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Speaker 4: all that time with him, so he's got the understanding

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Speaker 4: of the personnel. He's comfortable playing in the stadium. His

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Speaker 4: last game there was pretty good. He's got the most

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Speaker 4: tenured head coach and an organization that has, you know,

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Speaker 4: absolute function as opposed to dysfunction. Against a rookie head coach,

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Speaker 4: it should, it should line up as well as it

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Speaker 1: Now, I know, as a coach. You know, you could

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Speaker 1: say there's no good losses. But I came out of

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Speaker 1: the Dallas loss last night. I mean, Schottenheimer was buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: They had very few penalties, their clock management end of

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Speaker 1: the first half was strong, more yards per play, Dak moved.

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Speaker 1: I worried about Dak's movement. I thought he moved very well.

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Speaker 1: I came out of that game, and if you'd never

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Speaker 3: Well, what did you make of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So remember when we talked when Brian got the job,

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Speaker 4: and I said, I felt that Brian Schottenheimer was as

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Speaker 4: deserving as any of these other guys who were getting

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Speaker 4: He was very pois is very comfortable. You're playing the

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Speaker 4: defending Super Bowl champions the night that they open or

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Speaker 4: they dropped the banner, and the opening of the NFL

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Speaker 3: It is a night game.

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Speaker 4: You have the weather delay, you've got a quarterback that's

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Speaker 4: game as well. They've just traded away arguably your best

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Speaker 4: you've got all that turmoil and then they come out

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Speaker 4: and you look at these two teams and you think

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley averaged three point three yards of carry.

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Speaker 4: I think it was like October fourteenth, where he averaged

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Speaker 4: What about George Pickens' penalty on the eleven yards.

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Speaker 4: So that you've got you've got these gigantic plays that

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the Pickens penalty because that forced

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Speaker 1: if if that doesn't happen, they had momentum. It was

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Speaker 1: a really bad penalty. AJ Brown one target. And I

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Speaker 1: you know, I've you and I have joked about this before,

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Speaker 1: probably off air. I think certain things in life are luxuries,

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Speaker 3: I got my phone.

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Speaker 1: A nice watch is a luxury you can afford it

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Speaker 1: by I tend to think wide receivers, you know, are

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Speaker 1: target him one time, Eric, that's something, isn't it something?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's here's where I give the Philadelphia Eagles a

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Speaker 4: lot of credit. And now here's why I give Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts a lot of credit. He's noisy, and he's gonna

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Speaker 4: make noisy this season. He was noisy last season with

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Speaker 4: this is something that he doesn't know was And it

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Speaker 4: unhappy with the amount of targets he was getting and

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Speaker 4: that's going to happen again this season. But I give

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Speaker 4: them credit for staying true to what they said. We're

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you it is so much better

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Speaker 3: It is so much better.

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Speaker 4: And this is a formula that made Philadelphia so successful

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Speaker 4: last season and will continue to make him successful. Will

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Speaker 4: But this isn't a one man band and it's not

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Speaker 4: the AJ Brown Show, and there's going to be a

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Speaker 4: lot of opportunities for him to be the hero now,

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Speaker 4: whether or not he can be patient enough for those opportunities,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. What would you want to get him

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Speaker 4: more in the mix? Yes, and I think you can

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Speaker 4: the rest of the game. If this is the way

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Speaker 1: You know, first, Jim Harbaugh has been very good in

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Speaker 1: season openers. They've got Rashaan Slater out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Becton has some sort of flu bug. He may not play.

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Speaker 4: Well, I actually looked it up. So Jim as the

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Speaker 4: second best opening day record of any coach in NFL history.

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Speaker 4: I think the other guy, I can't remember if it's

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Speaker 4: So he's very good in these games. I think the

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Speaker 4: If you're going to Brazil, he's graded embracing that. Where

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Speaker 4: sometimes that can be a distraction. Guys can be frustrated

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Speaker 4: incredible opportunity we have, and it gets to be very contagious.

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Speaker 4: The first game of the season is so hard to

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Speaker 4: expect this could easily be an upset if you consider

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be excellent.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Bill Belichick's story that he will not let Patriot

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Speaker 3: Why? Like, why do it?

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Speaker 4: Now I'm a parent and I sent my son to UNC,

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Speaker 4: and there is a talk about how this is the

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be run like an NFL program

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Speaker 4: and that'll help your son get to the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 4: part of that is getting your son seen by scouts.

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Speaker 4: So to have this level of pettiness, what you're frustrated

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Speaker 4: that you got fired by the Patriots, Guess what everybody

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Speaker 4: got fired. That's we all sign up for that when

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Speaker 4: I think that there's so many more problems there from

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Speaker 4: a playing perspective based off of how they played in

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Speaker 4: their opener, to focus on then to focus on whether

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Speaker 4: or not you allow scouts and and I don't think

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Speaker 4: people are going to suffer that type of pettiness very well,

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Speaker 4: especially if you're losing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be on first things first, after us, he'll

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Speaker 4: Good luck with that, all right, I think, thank you, Colin,

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: All right, Colin, let's start with Rock Birdy.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 5: We love a good Brock Purdy discussion, specifically his place

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Speaker 5: Purdy obviously got paid this offseason, and John Lynch believes

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Speaker 7: We've got a ton of belief in him, and he's

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Speaker 3: It's lonesome clarity there, Okay, listen.

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Speaker 5: Probably the most interesting practice support today will be Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 5: because if he's not there, brock Purty has a very

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Speaker 3: To beat there, Geno Smith. Now we're gonna be.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be talking about this game shortly. Uh in

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Speaker 5: my picks, I got some interesting numbers for you, But

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Speaker 5: I'm just telling you I'm refreshing.

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Speaker 3: Forty nine ers.

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Speaker 5: Beat reporters because today is where guys are practicing. Like

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Speaker 5: the Saints just ruled somebody out. We'll talk about that shortly.

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Speaker 5: Did you notice I stayed away from that game. I

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Speaker 5: love to miss layups. You're like me, I don't I

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Speaker 3: Want to shoot threes. You missed a layup with Arizona

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Speaker 5: Jackson dart had a hell of a good preseason, so

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 5: Adding everything they wanted to see from him in the

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Speaker 3: I didn't love to pick.

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Speaker 5: I thought they reached a little well everything from dayble.

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Speaker 3: They loved this guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I lost a steak dinner to a GM

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Speaker 1: on that you bet the CHADU No, no, no, I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, Jackson Dart is is is. Kyle McCord is

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Speaker 1: the name. He's already been cut almccord. He's gonna he's whatever.

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Speaker 1: Laying your card tonight, listen. I don't know about Dart.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: I didn't see the competition. He was playing in the

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Speaker 1: I will say this, he looks very comfort comfortable, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's worth. I know what's preseason, Well, he's going

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Speaker 5: So the big difference between him and Shador that I

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Speaker 3: He's not running for his life trying to make plays.

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Speaker 5: That ain't the way to go Dart. He did deliver

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Speaker 3: We'll see you. I think he plays a lot this season.

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Speaker 1: They were bad at quarterback last year, so at Abdull Carter, the.

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Speaker 3: Schedule is just impossible, or they would be talking about wins.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking, are they competitive because I still think they

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Speaker 5: Well, if they're not competitive, Dable is going to get fired. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: if they're competitive, he sticks around. Final story, Colins contrast

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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart with this Anthony Richardson. Now this is just

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Speaker 5: a report, Okay. Anthony richardson agent recently met with GM

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Speaker 5: Chris Ballard and broached the idea of a possible trade. Aka,

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Speaker 5: hey man, you all like Daniel Jones, get my guy

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Speaker 5: out of here. I don't know what Anthony Richardson's value

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Speaker 3: What are you giving up?

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Speaker 1: Friends? And I don't think he's a franchise quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think he should give up a fifth round pick for him.

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Speaker 3: This guy went top five, I think top five in

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Speaker 1: I don't recently I would give up I would give

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Speaker 3: And Chris Ballard wants to again. If I have multiple.

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Speaker 1: Six and sevens, would I give up a six and

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Speaker 1: a seven as a backup. He's a nice kid. He's

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Speaker 1: got a great, big body, big frame. He's worth something.

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Speaker 5: You don't think it's still tbd on Anthony. But we

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Speaker 5: He's so young.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this, Jerry Jones made a bad deal

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you if you're the coach, called Jerry and

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Speaker 1: He could throw the ball out of the stadium where

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Speaker 1: I watched DAK last night. I may sign him to

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, who's got Joe Milton? Do the Cowboys have

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Speaker 5: Joe Milton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh never mind, they already would guy with a cat

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Speaker 5: I'm a smart coach, I would just take a flyer

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Speaker 1: Picks or you know, I don't even know what the

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would if I didn't have if like like Miami

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Speaker 1: I mean he's certainly capable. I mean, if nothing else,

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Speaker 3: For red zone plays. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting I mean, that's what the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they're gonna use Jalen Milrow in some series

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll use him a lot, but

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Speaker 3: I forgot this one.

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Speaker 5: How about this, Pittsburgh Steelers have a fossilid quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you kick the tires on him?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad idea. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Aaron's always been pretty good about that, helping young quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: A lot of good ideas coming off this side of

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the well, that's.

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Speaker 2: The news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line News.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the USC game tomorrow. How about afterwards

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Speaker 1: we drop over at the nine hundred Saturday night. It's

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Speaker 1: a little rowdy there, and I can't believe you're announcing

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Speaker 5: Goodness gracious, Okay, I gotta.

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Speaker 3: Go see my buddy across the street too. All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, the spitting contest is out of the way, and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers take on the Kansas City Chiefs tonight in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: So off a very strong last season. And I don't

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Speaker 3: A couple of them.

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Speaker 1: But the former newspaper guy, he kicked that dead end

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought you liked the Bucks. You're never

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Speaker 1: a Falcons guy. Bucks are at Tampa. I thought you

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Speaker 5: So last year I watched you plant your flag with

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Speaker 3: You called Washington Washington.

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Speaker 5: Well, that team for me this year is going to

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Speaker 5: be the Atlanta Falcons. The headline for Falcons Bucks will

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Speaker 5: be Kyle me crazy. But Pitts might be good. This

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Speaker 5: He had in the two games thirteen catches, bucks seventy nine,

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Speaker 5: two touchdowns. He was outstanding. But Colin, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how close you paid attention to this. Tristan Wurf's the

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Speaker 3: He's not playing. He's hurt.

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Speaker 5: backup gentlemen by the name of Charlie Heck. He's in

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Speaker 5: Atlanta do this offseason? They upgraded big time on the edge.

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Speaker 5: They drafted the kid Walker from Georgia, who's awesome. They

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Speaker 5: They're all in. They were going to be coming heavy

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Speaker 3: Colin.

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Speaker 5: There are some numbers that I've talked about with you

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Speaker 5: that show Atlanta. You know, they were unlucky. Last year

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Speaker 5: by the way, last year the Bucks won ten games.

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Speaker 5: Would you believe four of them came against backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: They beat Rattler twice. That Drew Locke, Aidan O'Connell, like,

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Speaker 3: I like the Falcons here, I mean getting points at home?

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Speaker 5: How could you pass that up?

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Speaker 3: And that leads us into the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Oh, dog's gonna be barking this weekend. The headline for.

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Speaker 5: My New York Football Jets will be steel curtains drawn

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Speaker 5: blitzed at the second highest rate in the league last.

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Speaker 3: Year, and then, by the way, Steelers have a new

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Speaker 3: left tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the Lions last year were fourth in the league

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Speaker 5: in pressure rate. Aaron Glenn's DNA. We got to get

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Speaker 5: after the quarterback. That's what they're gonna do. Rogers is

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Speaker 5: a statue he's working with new receivers. I don't love

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh blocking scheme. Jalen Warren doesn't really scare me

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Speaker 5: as a running back, and I don't think the receivers

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Speaker 5: are top end. Colin, how does this game? Who scores

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Speaker 5: points in this? I would go over under one and

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Speaker 5: a half touchdowns in Steelers Jets.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be played. It's gonna be all.

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Speaker 1: My take has always been, when you have like the

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Speaker 1: lowest total on the board and you get a field goal,

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Speaker 1: I think you got it. And you if you have

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Speaker 1: a competent quarterback. Justin Fields is more than competent. I'll

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Speaker 1: take the point.

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Speaker 5: I mean Fields is not well, let's be real, he's

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Speaker 5: not gonna be throwing thirty passes in.

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Speaker 3: No way, throws twenty two and moves. I'm good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's probably the game play.

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Speaker 5: So I like the Jets either winning a close one

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Speaker 5: or winning like you know, twelve six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Jets can pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today this game, Oh, I knew it.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals at the Saints.

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Speaker 5: So I'm in a wins pool with some guys from

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Speaker 5: here at Fox, and I drafted not only the Falcons,

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Speaker 5: but this next team, the Arizona Cardinals. The headline for

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Speaker 5: Cardinals Saints will be Kyler of duty.

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Speaker 3: QB puts up video game numbers.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, would not be shocked if Arizona stun folks are

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Speaker 5: a forty burger here.

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Speaker 3: Remember last year in the opener they went in a

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Speaker 3: Buffalo led for much of that game. I say, oh,

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Speaker 3: what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: Did cover the spread? I know you care deeply about that.

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Speaker 5: A couple things to note.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: Saints just announced Trevor Penning, who was a bit of

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Speaker 5: a bus at tackle that kicked him inside the guard.

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Speaker 5: He's out, so that Saints are now starting a backup

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Speaker 5: left guard and a rookie left tackle, the kid Banks.

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Speaker 5: I think this could be a game where Sweat, who

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Speaker 5: just came over from Philly. He's their new edg rusher.

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Speaker 5: He could eat and Colin. If you ranked all thirty

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Speaker 5: two starting quarterbacks this week, who do you think is

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Speaker 5: dead last?

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Speaker 3: Rattler?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be harsh, but he was bad

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Speaker 5: last year. We saw nothing from him, and he beats

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Speaker 5: out their rookie quarterback. So I think Kyler Murray eats.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Saints could keep up. It could

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Speaker 5: be a beatdown. So I'm on the Cardinals here every

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Speaker 5: which way.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the Cardinals offensive personnel, do they

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Speaker 1: have dudes?

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Speaker 2: They got?

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Speaker 3: How about this? Look? Their scope is players are better

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Speaker 3: than the Niners. I'm sorry, and the Niners im McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: and Kittle.

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Speaker 5: I mean you look at a Harrison McBride, James Connor.

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Speaker 5: Those are really top Endler and Kyler is making plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like Arizona lot. Now it gets ugly.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, the banged up old brittle Niners at

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Speaker 1: the young and vibrant Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: So by the way, you're on the you know, I

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Speaker 5: remember when I bashed your Seattle take because you had

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Speaker 5: them winning the division like a month ago, and I

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Speaker 5: was like, that's crazy. But you start to dig into

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Speaker 5: their defense. They're really good and McDonald knows his stuff.

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Speaker 5: He's excellent, so I think they're gonna be frisky. However,

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Speaker 5: in week one I got arrived with my guy.

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Speaker 3: The headline for.

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Speaker 5: Niner Seahawks will be I love it when a Shanna

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Speaker 5: plan comes together. Niners still the A team. I know

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Speaker 5: you watched the A team back in the Yeah, mister

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Speaker 5: t well done, brock Pertty. As I said earlier, three

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Speaker 5: and oh at lumen Field, Shanna has won six of

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Speaker 5: seven from the Seahawks kind of owns them. Colin Listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a huge darnold guy. Remember, like he was

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Speaker 5: really good last year they won fourteen games. Yeah, he

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Speaker 5: had Kevin O'Connell, who you believe is an elite coach,

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Speaker 5: and Justin Jefferson, who's the best or second best receiver

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Speaker 5: in the league.

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Speaker 3: He goes to Seattle, he's got like Jackson Smith jig.

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Speaker 3: But I like him.

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Speaker 5: But that's a big drop off from Justin Jefferson, Robert Sala.

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Speaker 5: He knows defense. He's going to be motivated after that

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Speaker 5: disaster with my Jets. I'm just praying McCaffrey place. I'll

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Speaker 5: just leave it at that. And I think the Niners

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Speaker 5: get I think the nine.

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Speaker 3: I have said this.

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Speaker 1: I like a lot about the Niners, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like Bosa gets dinged up, Christian gets dinged up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trent gets dinged up. That's my thing. I can two

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Speaker 1: things are true.

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Speaker 3: I like the Niners.

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Speaker 1: They got some old guys and they are very dependent

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Speaker 1: on like left tackle star back Kittle.

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Speaker 3: You know, Fred Warner gets stinged up. So whoa whoa whoa?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean that defense is Warner and Bosa.

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Speaker 5: So Seattle has a new offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak. They

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Speaker 5: got a new quarterback in Sam Darnold. Lot of newness

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Speaker 5: on that team, new wide receiving group. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that it gels immediately, give me the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today Lambo you know I live by Lambeau.

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Speaker 3: Now, Lions at the Packers, Stone Troy from Dells in.

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Speaker 5: You and Michael Parts are gonna be hanging out soon.

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Speaker 5: So Packers lines. We've talked about it all week. We

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Speaker 5: both like the same side. Here the headline four Packers

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Speaker 5: Lions will be Love Island, green Bay enters Golden years.

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Speaker 5: I'm bullish on the Packers. Look at that a heart football,

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Speaker 5: Love Island. Our graphics team is strong. I'm on the

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Speaker 5: Packers here. I'm just down a little bit on the

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Speaker 5: Detroit Lions, and everything about the Packers looks great. It

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Speaker 5: sounds like MICA's gonna play, probably on a pitch count.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he gets thirty snaps, but I don't know how

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Speaker 5: much they need him. Because this is an offense for

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Speaker 5: Green Bay that should click. Remember Love and Company in

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Speaker 5: the opener last year in Brazil they almost beat green

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Speaker 5: They love gets hurt at the end to kind of

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Speaker 5: derail things, but a healthy love.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden. Keep an eye on him. Like the ground game.

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Speaker 5: I think Lafleur has a coaching edge over your boy,

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell. So I will go Packers here somewhat comfortably

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Speaker 5: in a revenge spot because.

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Speaker 3: They got swept.

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Speaker 1: You know what I noticed when a Texas and Ohio

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Speaker 1: State played, how much they missed Matthew Golden. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: those Texas receivers did not separate. And last year all

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking was, man, Texas receivers are always over

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Speaker 1: because you had to double him. So that kid you take,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think how good Texas recruits. You take one

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Speaker 1: receiver out of the receiving corps and they looked totally pedestrian.

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Speaker 1: So I mean green Bay didn't need another weapon running

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Speaker 1: back tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Why did they draft him?

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Speaker 1: That's I think green Bay looked and said, this guy

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Speaker 1: is the seventh or eighth best player in the draft.

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Speaker 5: So when we look back at the Packers, if they

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Speaker 5: get to the Super Bowl, Colin just remember two things.

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Speaker 5: They don't draft wide receivers in the first round. Remember

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers complained about that. They went and got Golden.

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Speaker 5: Change their tendency. They don't make big, splashy trades up.

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Speaker 5: They did it for Michael Parsons. And I just wonder

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Speaker 5: if maybe the new regime is like, we're not going

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Speaker 5: to do things the old way.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna change tendency a little. Let's go all in.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like, if you ask me today, are

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Speaker 5: the Packers in the Super Bowl, I'd say, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think they've got a legit shot in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: You know, the NFC executives. Mike Sando does a great

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Speaker 1: job at the other place. Did an anonymous poll among

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Speaker 1: NFC execs and they ranked the teams, and you and

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Speaker 1: I were both surprised it was Philly one in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay two, because I think we both look at Green

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Speaker 1: Bay as still young. But you know, they draft so

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Speaker 1: well that they have two tight ends.

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Speaker 3: I love they have.

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Speaker 1: Tucker craft is yeah, and the other guys from Oregon

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Speaker 1: stays at Musgrave, nice player, they have really really and

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Speaker 1: and their back Josh Jacobs a stud. So in a sport,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of the opposite of the Steelers. They just

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Speaker 1: do offense right sometimes. That's why I defended the Mica move,

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Speaker 1: like they can't quite get a consistent, great path. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: does defense right, they draft well on offense, and they

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Speaker 1: still can't get the offense right. So you know, there

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Speaker 1: is a culture within Green Bay between coaching, drafting, and developing.

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Speaker 1: They get offense right.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was listening to one of their beat

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Speaker 5: writers on some podcast, really nerding out, and Halfley, the

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, likes to run a lot of stunts, so

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Speaker 5: it's not just gonna need Micah coming off the edge.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be coming interior.

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Speaker 5: I mean there is a world where the Packers fans

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Speaker 5: are like, guys, we're going to be like a twelve

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Speaker 5: thirteen win team this year with a healthy.

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Speaker 3: Unit, good Friday show. We stand on business, that thing

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Speaker 3: hum today.

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Speaker 1: First Things First has their hands full today trying to

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Speaker 1: follow that