Speaker 1: This is Take twenty with Maddie and Kenzie Ziegler, an
Speaker 1: I Heart radio podcast. Hey guys, it's Kenzie and Maddie
Speaker 1: and we're back with Take twenty. Recently, we've been feeling well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been feeling, but I feel
Speaker 1: like I've been feeling super insecure, um about my body
Speaker 1: image and you know, wearing a bathing suit while it's
Speaker 1: summer on social media, and I feel like we need
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about that because I always
Speaker 1: need your advice. I agree. I relate to that so hard. Yeah. Um, Recently,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to take a little step back from
Speaker 1: social media. I haven't been posting nearly as much, not
Speaker 1: for any other reason, but just for myself to kind
Speaker 1: of work on my confidence without the comment and without
Speaker 1: the negativity. And I will say, like, I can't speak
Speaker 1: on this nearly as much as you can, Kenzie, because
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened for you to deserve negative comments.
Speaker 1: But Kenzie, like, and I don't want to speak for you,
Speaker 1: like this is your thing to talk about, but it
Speaker 1: breaks my heart to see people online criticizing you for
Speaker 1: like the randomous things. Yeah, I I think I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is an experience that I feel like
Speaker 1: I dealt with. What a couple of years ago, I
Speaker 1: think you took a picture of me in a bathing
Speaker 1: suit and I posted it, which I never did, I
Speaker 1: never really did, and I got a lot of hate comments,
Speaker 1: you know, criticizing my body. And I turned the comments
Speaker 1: off because I was reading all of them, which is
Speaker 1: something I have learned to not do. If I so
Speaker 1: confident in that picture that I posted, I just need
Speaker 1: to let it be and let the people comment. And
Speaker 1: I I didn't do that. I read all of the comments.
Speaker 1: I was beating myself up over it. My friends were
Speaker 1: like responding to people and just bashing on them, just
Speaker 1: being like there's no reason, which is so nice. But
Speaker 1: I was just over and I turned off the comments.
Speaker 1: I actually turned them back on recently. Really, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was going through my Instagram and I saw that
Speaker 1: picture because you know when you just go back just
Speaker 1: to look at, you know, things that you posted. And
Speaker 1: I turned them back on because I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is so stupid. I seem weak because I just
Speaker 1: felt like I was being weak because I felt confident
Speaker 1: in that photo. And but also it's okay to feel
Speaker 1: weak sometimes, right, But I was just over it because
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know why I let
Speaker 1: it get to me because I I liked that photo.
Speaker 1: I felt like I looked good in that photo, So
Speaker 1: I shouldn't let people tell me that I look a
Speaker 1: certain way. When I'm confident, I think like, that's a
Speaker 1: really that's a really good way to look at it.
Speaker 1: I think for us, we've been on Instagram for ever,
Speaker 1: for as long as we can remember. I started on
Speaker 1: Instagram when I was nine years old, which is extremely
Speaker 1: young to start on Instagram then, but it was so
Speaker 1: different than to how it is now. I would take
Speaker 1: a photo on the Instagram app, take it in one take,
Speaker 1: and I would post it straight to Instagram. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: think about it. And I miss that so much because
Speaker 1: now we not so much Kenzie, because Kenzie is amazing
Speaker 1: about just like taking her photos and then just being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I choose these ones I'm and post them right now,
Speaker 1: I overthink and I take a bunch of photos and
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, like these just don't look good. I
Speaker 1: don't feel good in them. I feel like people are
Speaker 1: going to think I look weird, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I have to live up to a certain standard of
Speaker 1: what I've looked at on Instagram. I think we get
Speaker 1: into and I think I can speak on this for
Speaker 1: almost everyone. It's so easy to get into the rhythm
Speaker 1: of comparing yourself to everyone else, and it's a toxic
Speaker 1: cycle and I've tried to break it, but it's extremely
Speaker 1: hard to move on from that. It's it's hard to
Speaker 1: look at someone else and think, why don't I look
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, I feel like I mean a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like every teenager feels that way, even if
Speaker 1: you know I'm looking at someone that I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: she's perfect. I want to be like her. I want
Speaker 1: to look like her. She's probably thinking the same thing,
Speaker 1: like I want to look like this girl. I want
Speaker 1: to look like this girl. And I think it's so
Speaker 1: hard because it's so hard to feel satisfied with yourself,
Speaker 1: especially because of social media, which I mean that will
Speaker 1: never go away for anyone I know, But I I
Speaker 1: just I like now that girls are just hyping each
Speaker 1: other up, like I feel like especially now, And this
Speaker 1: is weird it because I feel like like to talk
Speaker 1: about TikTok again, but it's just like I feel like
Speaker 1: it made it such a safe space, like mhm. If
Speaker 1: some girl is showing off her body, everyone in the
Speaker 1: comments is hyping her up. And I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. Also, I feel like we need to
Speaker 1: talk about the difference between so and we don't have
Speaker 1: to get into this as much. It's just more like
Speaker 1: sometimes and I think this is just the way that
Speaker 1: society has made it out to be, is that if
Speaker 1: a girl shows off her body, she's trying to sexualize
Speaker 1: herself or she's trying to gain something from it. Why
Speaker 1: can't we just as girls, show off ourselves and our
Speaker 1: body to feel confident for ourselves because it makes us
Speaker 1: feel good, or we want to wear a crop top
Speaker 1: and show our stomach because we found confident in the moment.
Speaker 1: That's very much a thing too, you know. And I
Speaker 1: did get that a lot when I, like a few
Speaker 1: years ago. I think I was still trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what I was like, my style and what I
Speaker 1: was wearing, and I was wearing a lot of crop tops. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Then I was getting a lot of hate for it
Speaker 1: because they were saying, you are dressing way too old,
Speaker 1: you are blah blah blah like all of the stuff.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just feel like I can
Speaker 1: dress the way I want and no one should tell
Speaker 1: me otherwise because it has nothing to do with them. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's your body, it's your photo, it's your like choices,
Speaker 1: you make those choices how you want to, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Like? Especially now, like our generation
Speaker 1: we've said this, like we've touched on it and even
Speaker 1: other episodes. Is just the fact that like our generation
Speaker 1: is amazing and so ahead of the times. I feel
Speaker 1: like and just so educated and smart, And how do
Speaker 1: you think like looking back on old magazine covers, are
Speaker 1: looking back on old editorial photos of like models that
Speaker 1: were huge in the nineties or even before then, like
Speaker 1: seeing that image and seeing what the standard of beauty
Speaker 1: was too now like how much has it evolved? So much?
Speaker 1: Like so much, and I and I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it so much. Every body type is accepted now
Speaker 1: and no one should. Like I never look at a
Speaker 1: girl and I'm like, oh, you're this way, You're just
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're beautiful. Yeah, exactly. And everyone is
Speaker 1: beautiful in their own ways. Everyone's flaws are beautiful in
Speaker 1: their own ways. Cellulite is beautiful, like stretch marks, are beautiful.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to accept that. I we have
Speaker 1: had on my time. I think in quarantine, when we
Speaker 1: were settling down and not being active and just eating
Speaker 1: whatever we want, I think like we got into the
Speaker 1: trap of being like, oh my gosh, new things are
Speaker 1: happening to our bodies that we've never seen before. Like
Speaker 1: what do we do? And I think like, first of all,
Speaker 1: things are temporary. You know, your body fluctuates. You're going
Speaker 1: to go through phases of not feeling confident and then
Speaker 1: feeling confident, feeling fit, feeling not so fit, And I
Speaker 1: think like learning to just be okay with your body
Speaker 1: in that moment. I know it's hard, but it's something
Speaker 1: that we all should work on, right. And it also
Speaker 1: depends on the day for me, Like sometimes I will
Speaker 1: be super confident that day, I will look at myself
Speaker 1: in the mirror and I will be like, wow, I
Speaker 1: actually feel good about my body. I actually feel good today.
Speaker 1: And then other days, you know, I I don't feel
Speaker 1: confident and that's fine because we're all going to have
Speaker 1: those days. And I feel like those days are really
Speaker 1: hard for all of us, but I mean it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. How do you do you ever. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know we both feel this way. And this happens to
Speaker 1: us like quite often, is we'll feel really confident that day,
Speaker 1: well we'll get all cute, will look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my gosh, okay, yes, let's do this,
Speaker 1: let's take a picture. Oh my god. And then we
Speaker 1: take the picture and we look back at the photos
Speaker 1: and we're like, that looks nothing what I thought I
Speaker 1: looked like in there two seconds ago. What happened? I
Speaker 1: know that I don't understand that. Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: And it's always when I feel like not ugly, but
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like I look my best that
Speaker 1: day that the photos turn out great. It always happens.
Speaker 1: It's always flipped and you get all cute to take
Speaker 1: a photo, you take a selfie, you're just like, I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I think it's just like the idea
Speaker 1: of being more candidly, that's using air quotes, like trying
Speaker 1: to be more in the moment rather than like really
Speaker 1: like being strategic and planning it out and being like,
Speaker 1: I have to get the perfect photo today. If you
Speaker 1: put too much pressure on it, then it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen, right, Yeah, for your social media, do you
Speaker 1: now because you've gone through the moments of like feeling
Speaker 1: hate from other people and feeling moments of like people
Speaker 1: criticizing you for your image, do you now just post
Speaker 1: for yourself or do you still have that in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind, like, oh my gosh, what are
Speaker 1: other people going to think when I post this photo?
Speaker 1: In the moment, I like you've seen me even with
Speaker 1: other things, like other social media's I you know, take
Speaker 1: a picture, post it. I don't care. She literally does
Speaker 1: her TikTok video in one take and she's like great
Speaker 1: and post it, and but obviously it'll be like a
Speaker 1: few hours and I'll be like, oh wait, did I
Speaker 1: actually look at that picture? Like did I really look
Speaker 1: at that picture? And There's been several times where I've
Speaker 1: just deleted a picture because of that. But most of
Speaker 1: the time, I'm just like, I really do not care
Speaker 1: because social media, like it's important to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: but it's not that important to me. I don't feel
Speaker 1: the need to look a certain way or like not
Speaker 1: look like this girl looked like this girl whatever. I
Speaker 1: just if someone doesn't like the way I look, then
Speaker 1: that's their fault because I don't care. So guys, we
Speaker 1: have to remember Instagram is a highlight reel essentially like
Speaker 1: you for the for the most part. Now, like at
Speaker 1: least for me, I've realized I've been posting a lot
Speaker 1: of things that were like my best photo or I
Speaker 1: wait till I get a really good one to post it,
Speaker 1: rather than just being like I'm going to post a
Speaker 1: photo with my acne and in my sweats, Like that's
Speaker 1: hard for me to do, really hard, And I've never
Speaker 1: felt that way until recently or over the past year,
Speaker 1: because I'm too worried about not looking my best or
Speaker 1: what people are going to say. Right, That's how I
Speaker 1: feel about, you know, posting bathing suit photos like that
Speaker 1: that I'm like, it's really hard for me to do
Speaker 1: because any other photo it's just like whatever. But I
Speaker 1: sometimes I just end up not even posting it. I'd
Speaker 1: like the picture, and I'm just like, well, this is
Speaker 1: not going to be on anything because of all the
Speaker 1: people being like why are you wearing a bathing suit,
Speaker 1: why are you trying to show off your body? Why
Speaker 1: are you blah blah blah, and just calling me certain names,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, well, I'm at the beach. Do
Speaker 1: you expect me to wear a winter suit? Like? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but um, yeah, I think I've been getting
Speaker 1: more confident in that. Like I've posted a few bikini
Speaker 1: photos this year, and I are you for all of
Speaker 1: your photos because you look so good because you're you
Speaker 1: feel confident in the photos and I can see it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's like a thing like you can see
Speaker 1: it when you like when you feel confident. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you can really see it. And it's so exciting to
Speaker 1: see because like there was a huge phase and I
Speaker 1: think due to our dance background in our competition life,
Speaker 1: like we we're conditioned to look per ficked at all times.
Speaker 1: We have been wearing eyelashes, like fake eyelashes since literally
Speaker 1: the moment of like the age of four, and that
Speaker 1: is not normal. That is not something that is extremely
Speaker 1: common like at all. But I think we've just grown
Speaker 1: up always being like, oh my gosh, we have to
Speaker 1: be the perfect like pretty girl, like we have to
Speaker 1: look our best always like smile, and I think now
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that doesn't really translate into everyday life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just not normal. It's just really not I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of girls in school like
Speaker 1: doing cheerleading and doing other things I can relate where
Speaker 1: it's just like once you're out of it, like once
Speaker 1: you're not competing, you're like, wow, I'm actually in the
Speaker 1: real world now, And this is so different than when
Speaker 1: I remember and crazy that we literally wear less makeup
Speaker 1: now than we did when we were like eight years old.
Speaker 1: I know you were. You were beating my face at
Speaker 1: four years old, like literally like wing liner every day
Speaker 1: to class. But also we were being filmed, so that's
Speaker 1: like slightly different, like I wouldn't but why we did
Speaker 1: our makeup when we didn't need it? And I think
Speaker 1: I also gave up though, Like I've seen some clips
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, you're crazy and you look like
Speaker 1: perfect ballet but oh my god, I woke up one
Speaker 1: to dance glass. I'm like, okay, probably honestly, what do
Speaker 1: you think is like the biggest thing that you've learned
Speaker 1: from online hate from comments about your body? What what
Speaker 1: is the biggest takeaway and like, what what have you
Speaker 1: learned from that? Well? I think now I think of
Speaker 1: those people as just, you know, people that are bored
Speaker 1: and just want to do something with their life and
Speaker 1: they have nothing else to do but hate on someone
Speaker 1: because you know, the least you can do is just
Speaker 1: if you're going to comment, just say something nice or
Speaker 1: what is that saying? If you're if you don't have
Speaker 1: anything nice to say, I don't say it exactly. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like cheesy, but it's true. It's literally it's
Speaker 1: so true, and I think everyone needs to, you know,
Speaker 1: learn from that, because I feel like a lot of girls,
Speaker 1: just even in school, are dealing with this with random
Speaker 1: people from their school commenting and just bashing on them,
Speaker 1: and it's so hard being a teenager in this generation.
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like it's so hard, and I
Speaker 1: feel like we just need to hype each other up.
Speaker 1: That's literally all we have left. We have to celebrate
Speaker 1: each other as individuals for the good, the bad, the
Speaker 1: in between, because we're all individual for our own reasons
Speaker 1: and we're all beautiful in our own ways with our
Speaker 1: flaws included. Like and the hate will never go away,
Speaker 1: like I I know we will not. By doing this,
Speaker 1: we will not change anything. But it's just like, the
Speaker 1: least you can do is just comment on a girl's
Speaker 1: photo and be like, you look good, and I do
Speaker 1: that on all my friends, even if it's like not
Speaker 1: even on the scale as big as Instagram, as you know,
Speaker 1: like we have a lot of people commenting, and whether
Speaker 1: it be that, or whether it be literally a girl
Speaker 1: at school and another girl bullys her and says you
Speaker 1: don't you look ugly or whatever it may be, that
Speaker 1: is not okay and that should not be accepted. That
Speaker 1: should not be allowed, that should not be normalized. Hate bullying,
Speaker 1: all of that should never be normalized because that is
Speaker 1: just not realistic. I mean, unfortunately, it's like a thing.
Speaker 1: It's always been a thing, but it's heightened now because
Speaker 1: of the world we live in, because of like all
Speaker 1: these platforms, and I think, like we need to really
Speaker 1: speak up on like slowing all of the hate own
Speaker 1: because it's just not cool, guys, Like it really isn't.
Speaker 1: And I know, like I think even me and you
Speaker 1: we've been guilty of like saying mean things to each other,
Speaker 1: but like we never really mean it, whether it be
Speaker 1: as small as like just looking at you and me,
Speaker 1: like you look so cute today, or I love your
Speaker 1: outfit or your hair looks really nice. Things like that
Speaker 1: your day. It makes it makes your whole day, Like
Speaker 1: when Maddie says, my outfit looks cute, I'm like that,
Speaker 1: my outfit definitely looks cute. Another thing, Um, I think
Speaker 1: we should talk about mom because I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: mom has been so like she's just been great in
Speaker 1: this situation because you know, even being in dance competitions,
Speaker 1: there definitely have been some crazy moms with their kids
Speaker 1: about their body image and what they look like all
Speaker 1: the time. And I feel like Mom has always just
Speaker 1: been like, you do whatever you want, you eat whatever
Speaker 1: you want. Are never our mom has never put us
Speaker 1: on a diet or never told us we have to
Speaker 1: eat a certain way or anything. I'm so lucky we
Speaker 1: have that. It's it's rare to have that, Kenzie sometimes
Speaker 1: like we're extremely lucky that she's just let us live
Speaker 1: how we want to. And she always hypes me up.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I come downstairs and she's like, you look,
Speaker 1: your body looks so nice. You look beautiful today, And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, that makes me so happy that I
Speaker 1: just have such an amazing mom. Like I can just
Speaker 1: come down the stairs and she's just even in my
Speaker 1: pajamas and she's like, you look beautiful, and it makes
Speaker 1: me so happy. I mean, I mean, she's she's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I hope IOUs. She looks younger than she did ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I don't know how that's possible. I know
Speaker 1: she did a little reverse reverse, but also like for her,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's gotten So we're talking about mom now,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I feel like she's gotten so confident
Speaker 1: in her own body too, and it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: great example for us to look up to because it's like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: as a woman with two children, she's able to find
Speaker 1: a new level of confidence for herself and love what
Speaker 1: she's wearing, love how she's feeling like. It's it's inspiring.
Speaker 1: She wears her cute little mini skirts. Sometimes I'm like, okay, Mom,
Speaker 1: you you look a little too similar to me and Kenzie.
Speaker 1: You're dressing too much like a teenager. But that's how
Speaker 1: it used to be. Like I remember we used to
Speaker 1: show up to restaurants and the same outfit. But now
Speaker 1: I feel like she dresses way different. She dresses and
Speaker 1: Lulu Lemon mini skirts, a bright T shirt and bright
Speaker 1: she was that matter T shirt and I love it.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing, but I love it. I think we're past
Speaker 1: the point of like feeling embarrassed. It's just like you
Speaker 1: look cute. I I think, like lastly, to like really
Speaker 1: tie this in is like we especially for people who
Speaker 1: have watched us grub on social media, you've watched us
Speaker 1: before we hit puberty, like we were babies. And I remember,
Speaker 1: like one of the first comments I ever got about
Speaker 1: my body was, oh my gosh, you gained weight. You
Speaker 1: don't look the way you used to look. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you were watching me when I hadn't even developed
Speaker 1: bob yet, Like I hadn't go my period yet. I'm
Speaker 1: I was still very much a child and I'm still
Speaker 1: not even a full adult yet, and I'm like, my
Speaker 1: body is still going to change, Like sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: have the same like little body I used to have,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm growing into womanhood. Like that just
Speaker 1: makes me mad because it's like it's also none of
Speaker 1: your business, like you have no right. You have no
Speaker 1: right to tell me what I used to look like
Speaker 1: and how I look now, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: don't compare, because I don't know. It just makes me mad,
Speaker 1: you know, But like every body is beautiful. Everybody should
Speaker 1: be celebrated, like I said for the good the bad,
Speaker 1: thing in between, because everyone deserves to feel their best,
Speaker 1: everyone deserves to be celebrated for themselves. I think self
Speaker 1: love is just like a hard thing, but it's something
Speaker 1: that is so important and so like it just needs
Speaker 1: to be so accepted at this point in life and
Speaker 1: maybe just go hype up someone today. Kenzie, you look
Speaker 1: so beautiful, you look you look stunning in your pds.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You look stunning in your cute outfit that
Speaker 1: I'm jealous those you take a picture of you, take
Speaker 1: a picture of you. Okay, we gotta go to post
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