WEBVTT - Rascal Flatts’ Jay DeMarcus One on One 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.760 Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.760 I could not be more excited for my guest today 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.880 on the show. He is a friend but also one 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.520 of the most talented human beings I know. He was 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:27.240 part of maybe my favorite country band ever, Rascal Flats, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.000 And I think that's fair to say. You know, I'm 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.080 a George straight guy, so George stra would be my 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.839 favorite artist ever, but for Rascal Flats easily one of 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:40.000 my favorite bands ever. And Jada Marcus was a huge 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:45.159 part of that, along with Jodahn and Gary. And when 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.680 I started getting ready for this podcast, and I started 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.720 going back over the numbers, and obviously I know these guys, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.000 and I knew Rascal Flats was successful. But when I 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.600 look back and they had seventeen number one hits, thirty 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.920 three million albums, sold, more than forty trophies from Grammys 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:09.880 to cmas Amas, you name it, People's Choice Awards. They 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.920 accomplished it all over a two decade run, and then 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.280 right around the pandemic, right around the time that they 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.039 had just announced that they were going to do kind 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.600 of a farewell tour and take a break for some 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.040 personal reasons that I also want to ask Jay about. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:33.080 It was over and they were gone. Obviously, everything was 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.920 swept up by the pandemic and touring and life on 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.600 the road. All that came to an end for all musicians. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.280 But for Rascal Flats it happened at such an inopportune 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.240 time because they were already in turmoil, They were having 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.760 trouble and as they of course, they were kind of 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.960 doing a farewell tour, so that means things were coming 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.639 to an end in their mind. What has happened since 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.280 then and what happened in that moment been shrouded in mystery, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.360 and no one has really ever talked about it. I 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.280 haven't heard Jodns speak about it. I haven't heard Jada 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.080 Marcus speak about it, or Gary. So I am very 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.040 curious what happened to one of the most famous bands 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.000 in the history of not just country music but music 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.760 in general, that they just disappeared and haven't been seen 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.480 from again. So I am so grateful for my friend 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:30.640 Jada Marcus to come on the show today. Jada Marcus 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.200 joins me from what appears to be his sound studio 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.360 office in Nashville, and where are you. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.120 This is my office at Red Street Records. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.640 Red Street Records. Well, I guess that's where we have 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.280 to jump off right there. What is Red Street Records? 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.080 You started a label of your own? 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.680 I did so, you know, when Rascal Flats was stored. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.160 Winding down our touring career, I always knew that I 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.760 wanted to be on the business side of the music 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.600 business at some point, so I started out with a 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.360 little Christian label in twenty eighteen called Reread Street Records. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.560 Signed a couple of buddies of mine. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.040 That I knew were already in the industry, and I 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.320 first of all wanted to see if it was something 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.520 that I enjoyed doing and whether I had a knack 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.920 for it or not. And found out very quickly that 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.440 it was very rewarding to kind of pass on whatever 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.000 I'd learned in the music business to younger artists and 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.160 kind of passed the baton that way. And then as 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.280 we started to grow and we had more and more success, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.880 the Pandemic hit sort of canceled our Rascal Flats farewell 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.040 to that we had on the books, and I found 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.960 a business partner that has been amazing. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:36.560 He came alongside me and. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.000 Sort of bankrolled the whole thing, and we started a 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.560 country label. Now we have four country artists for Christian artists. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.600 So it's been a really fun thing to watch grow 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.520 and to build it. It's been really, really, very rewarding. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.280 My favorite business partners are those that'll come in at 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.360 bank roll the whole thing. Yeah, those are the good ones. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.880 Always better to use someone else's money. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.960 I've heard you mentioned kind of pre Pandemic and Rascal 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.640 Flats and you guys were about to go out on 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.560 tour and I was going to come see you guys, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.920 and we had plans to meet up. Last time I 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.040 saw you it was twenty nineteen, again in person the 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.200 last time. We've texted several times, but last time I 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.480 think we were at the on that trip with Rob Wriggle. Yeah, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.400 up in what month? Were we in Montana? What we 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.680 were on like a dude ranch? 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:26.280 Yeah, I wasn't or Wyoming, Wyoming. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.120 I think I think you're right. I think we're in Wyom. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:28.719 Yeah. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.400 Rob Wriggle had some deal with some ranch. We stayed 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.040 at some hotel. We went fly fishing and horseback riding 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.440 and played golf and we had a hell of a time. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.440 It was a great crew and you, me and Rob, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.359 you know, stayed up and had a few cocktails and 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:42.080 shared stories. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.320 For a while, we've been known to do that at 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.720 the time with you. Sure, No, that was great. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.280 That was such a great time. I think he's going 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.680 to bring that back this year, so I hope to 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.520 see you there too. The wild West Shootout, you know, Uh, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.360 that was it was an absolute blast. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.599 We had a good crew. And uh, I'll be playing 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.880 in Tahoe this year too, so I'll see him at Oh. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.440 I love that. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.880 It's American Century Classic, you guys. You know, it's funny, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.159 full circle moment. The first time I saw you guys 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.760 in concert is Rascal Flats would always play the week 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.160 of the American Century Classic there in Tahoe. It usually is, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.599 I think in July, early July is and that's where 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.560 I first saw you guys. I think it was before 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:21.320 I even met you. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.919 It probably was, I remember that. And that's before I 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.040 even played in the tournament. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.760 Because we used to do Friday and Saturday night out there, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.720 and it was I would watch jod On and he 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.240 would just be exhausted, drag him through the weekend so 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.800 I didn't actually start playing in the tournament until after 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.440 week had didn't play there anymore. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.320 So it's fun now to just kind of go. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.600 And we do something really fun on Thursday Night now too, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.880 as we host Celebrity Karaoke Night, which is really fun. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.600 You got to get up and sing a song with us. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.960 So this is obviously a huge NBC event, and I'm excited. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.479 I'm very honored that I got invited this year, and 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.720 I one hundred percent will be there because I have 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.640 heard it is the best event, best celebrity golf event. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.720 And I played in the AT and T Peble Beach 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.680 program ironically with Jodn Rooney. Joe Don and I were 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.800 in the same group with Wyndam Clark and Jason Day 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.719 and so Joe Don and I would always play together. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.880 But coming to Tahoe, come to the America's Century, and 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:21.640 I've heard about Thursday Night Celebrity Karaoke. I will not 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.520 be a part of this, but I can't wait to 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.039 see it. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.000 But maybe we can make you a celebrity judge, your 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.120 guest celebrity judge. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.680 How about that. Here's the thing. You got a guy 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.080 like Alfonso Roberto, right, and I think it's bullsh that 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.760 he's a part of it because he's good. He's I know, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.400 he's not technically a singer, but the dude can sing. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.039 So he's gonna put everybody to shame. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.640 Well, you know, we've we've made a rule to where 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.279 he can't win it anymore because yeah, so he's kind 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.279 of just up there for fun. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.560 Now there should be a category of too talented. That's Alfonso. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.719 He can dance, he can sing, so you can't compete 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:55.000 with that. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:07:00.760 No, no, obviously a professional and yeah, and be in 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:01.440 the contest. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.360 He knows that though. That's why we do a couple 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.320 of songs with him. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.600 So here my relation ship with with Rascal Flats is 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.920 very interesting. First and foremost the biggest fan of the 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.520 world as most people are, and it is I'll say 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.720 Rascal Flats is one of those bands when you know 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.160 those bands where you're like, I think I know some 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.920 of their songs, Like I think I know a few 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.480 for sure, and then you go to a concert and 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:31.480 you realize there's thirty Rascal Flat songs you know by heart. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:33.960 I'm gonna put you guys, and I don't know if 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.040 this is fair. I'm gonna also throw out the Goo 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.520 Goo Dolls. That's another one of those bands where I'm like, yeah, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.840 I probably know some Goo Goo Doll songs. I'm like, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.560 holy crap, I just sang every song at your concert, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.960 are you know? Word by word from my heart? And 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:53.800 so that fandom really misses you guys. And we missed 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.720 the the final tour, the farewell tour. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.520 Yeah, I appreciate that. Man, first of all, such kind words, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.160 Thank you so much. I appreciate that. You know, nobody 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.280 misses it more than we do. We feel like we 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.360 were robbed. I was telling somebody the other day. One 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.160 of the things that's been the hardest to get over 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.000 was in twenty twenty, we had this farewell tour lined 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.960 out to do. We were all kind of burned out 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.400 because we've been together twenty two years and we'd never 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.320 had a real break. So we were at that point 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.120 to where we loved each other, but we looked at 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.680 each other we were like, at some point we got 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.520 to take a little time for ourselves and do some 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.480 things that we hadn't had a chance to do individually 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.320 up to that point. So when we were I never 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.960 will forget this, we were playing a casino in New 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.720 Jersey and the pandemic had just started to really get 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.280 legs and it was spreading across America, and we were 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.520 rushing to get back home, so we canceled our meet 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.160 and greet because we were afraid of infection spreading and 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.040 one of us getting COVID. So we did the show. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.760 We packed up as quickly as we could, we got 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.000 on the buses and headed back home. That was the 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.360 last time we were all together on the stage and 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.240 it makes me emotional when I think about it, because 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.160 we didn't know the last time was the last time, 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.719 and not to be able to say goodbye to it 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.679 and give it its proper do has been one of 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.160 the most painful things in the world. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.600 So, first of all, for the fans. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.560 They've been the most amazing support system ever and they've 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.120 allowed us to have these incredible lives and careers. Without them, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.160 obviously we wouldn't have anything. So, you know, a lot 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.760 of love and respect and honor should be given to them, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.439 and we didn't give we didn't give any of them 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.080 a chance to come say goodbye to us. That is 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:56.400 always something that's really sucked, and I've always hated and regretted, you. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.080 Know, It's funny. I just realized in listening to you talk, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.280 I went through something very similar, And I say, you 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.640 and I am in Rascal Flats and me with the 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.600 Bachelor of Lauren and I my beautiful wife, and I 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.720 just did a podcast about this, of not knowing when 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.480 it's over, of not knowing the last time you're walking 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.640 off the field, not being cognizant of the fact of 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.160 this is it, and that that show in New Jersey 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.240 you didn't have the wherewithal to go, this is the 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.559 last time we're all going to be together on the stage. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.319 And you and I, you know, obviously when I walked 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.680 off the Bachelor Show for the last time, I didn't 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.600 know that. And I didn't have the pageantry and the 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.600 ceremony of getting to say goodbye on your own terms. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:43.240 And you guys, unfortunately, after two decks over two decades, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.280 didn't have that chance to say goodbye. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.520 Yeah, it is. It is something that I live with 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.319 every day. I mean, I really do. Rascal Flats. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.840 When you when you're part of something and you build 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.920 it from the ground up and watch it grow and 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.160 watch people respond to it and people love it, and 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.840 people identify with your music and your songs, and you've 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.160 helped them through certain seasons of our lives, and it 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.640 becomes something more than just a song to other people. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.800 That has value to me, That means something, and I 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.679 don't take that lightly. So to not be able to 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.000 give it its proper goodbye or say thank you to 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.160 those fans that we would have met in twenty twenty 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.000 and be able to hug them one last time and 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.559 tell them thank you for an incredible career, it truly is. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.800 You know, it's been heartbreaking and it's not something easy 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.480 to live with every day because I poured so much 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:39.160 into it myself that I've not been able to resolve 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.000 it internally myself either. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.520 So I deal with that every day. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.760 I'm one of those people that hopes we have a 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.400 chance to stand on stage again together someday so that 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.040 we're able to at least put some kind of resolution 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:51.440 to it. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.640 And I hold out hope every day that we'll get 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.640 to that point eventually. You know, yeah, I know that. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.840 You know, Joe Don Rudy God bless them, is working 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.400 on himself and trying to get healthy, and I wish 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.040 him the very best, and I hope he does kind 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.200 of conquer those demons that he's been fighting you, And 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.760 so it's you and Gary right now right that are 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.000 kind of along with jodon And I guess that you 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.760 kind of answered a little bit of surely there's room 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.520 that someday this could happen, you know, even if it's 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.600 just one of those crazy Grammy moments or whatever where 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.520 you just all of a sudden, maybe even for one 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.840 night only, Rascal Flats is back together. I just maybe 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.680 it's just being a huge fan. I just I hope, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.240 I hope that's a possibility. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.839 Well, I think it's a you know, we we needed 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.400 to give Jodahn the space and the time to go 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.800 through some of the things that he needed to go through. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.040 You know, he was going through a very painful divorce. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.360 There were things here he was dealing with towards the 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.520 last few years that Gary and I really didn't know 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.880 the depth of. You know, it's it's easy to go 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.080 out and sing for a bunch of fans and and 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.080 have a few cocktails afterward and sort of go to bed. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.000 But it's harder when you're dealing with personal issues, and 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.440 you're dealing with some personal demons and a rough home life, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.959 and that starts to compound and you start to self 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.640 medicate more than you realize. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.120 And I think that was sneaking up on him. I 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:17.800 know it was. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.480 Because we've remained We've remained very, very close through his 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.760 whole process. I stayed in touch with him, you know, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.160 as often as I could while he was in rehab. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.760 And I can't tell you how proud I am of 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.000 this guy and how he is bounced back. And I 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:38.160 haven't seen jodin this healthy and this happy in a 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.440 long long time, and I'm so proud of him, and 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.760 he is his sobriety means so much to him right now, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.320 and he's working his way through that, and I think 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.080 he's finally at a place to where he's able to 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.800 start coming back into the world and be creative again 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.880 and feeling good about the future and where that may 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.760 lead to. So it's been it's been an amazing thing 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.720 to stand back on the side lines and sort of 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.720 watch him come through so much and conquer so much, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.440 and I just I could not be more proud of. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.000 The man he is and what he's been able to do. Well. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.920 I know, you guys, things got contentious, We'll just say 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.280 that towards the end, But now that we all have understanding, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.240 and like you said, it's it's such a good lesson 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.760 no matter how successful, and you guys couldn't have been 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.960 more successful in the industry. You don't know what somebody 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.600 is going through on the data, and you know, we 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.280 all judge each other on social media, you know, judge 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.280 our neighbors, and you see people all the time and 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.080 you just think, you know, you don't. You don't know 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:37.800 what someone's going through. You don't know their pain, you 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.480 don't know the depth of it. And so you know, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.840 Joe Don I think is a shining example of that. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.920 And thank god, I think he's coming through this on 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.400 the other side. So you know, maybe I think what 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.120 you just said though, was hopeful. I think, you know, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.600 if everybody gets healthy and happy and we come back 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.800 and maybe we do have the resurrection tour that you know, 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.960 you guys be the Stones, maybe just go on forever. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:58.200 Man. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.040 My hope is that it won't be a farewell to her. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.040 Maybe we'll be able to come back story we'll appreciate 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.720 it more than we ever have. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.000 Or you know, I think that's one of the things 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.720 we took for granted, is that it was just going 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.840 to go on and on forever, and then you know, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.560 COVID taught us otherwise, you know, just when you think 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.640 you're in control, you're not. And something you said is 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.440 so true. You never know the shit that people deal 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.600 with on the inside. And one thing I've learned is 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.400 to try to be, especially if you care about somebody, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.600 to try to be more in tune and more and 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:37.040 not so apprehensive about asking people if they're okay. Sometimes 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.200 just asking someone if they're okay means the world to 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.160 someone more than you might ever imagine, just to let 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.840 somebody know that somebody cares enough to even ask about them. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.120 And that's that's something I think that I've walked away 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.240 with from this is going you know, it's okay to 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.560 have even if you're bros and your dudes and you 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.560 hang out and you play golf, it's okay to have 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.240 a heart to heart with somebody and go, are you 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:59.120 doing okay? Man? 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.680 Tell me about what's going on. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.360 And guys notoriously are bad at that. Yeah, we're mad. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.120 It's like, man, take two seconds and actually ask, especially 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.920 if someone kind of opens the door. Oftentimes we all 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.960 just gloss over. It's like, oh, I'm you know, having 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.800 a tough time at home and like, oh man, yeah, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.960 that's tough. Instead like if someone actually takes the second 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.680 to open that door, walk through it and you know, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.920 ask a follow up a question and see how they're 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.400 really doing. It's funny when you're you're telling that story. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.080 It kind of reminded me of the movie almost Famous 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.800 of you know, the trials and tribulations of a band 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.120 and then when they kind of you know, got back 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.120 together in the end, it was a thousand times better. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.280 And I feel like that could be y'all's story. It 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.280 truly could be where you just go back out for 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.520 the love of the game and actually enjoy every minute 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.080 of it. Maybe who knows, this is the pipe dream 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.320 you guys are all on one bus instead of three 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:49.080 separate buses. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.680 You never know. It could be the case. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.800 Although one of us snores really loudly, and I'm not 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.560 gonna divult through that is, but I hope that's the case. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.240 I really do, because I miss it. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.399 I know that being in a band is like, you know, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.080 it's a marriage on steroids. You know, in the longer 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.040 year together, the more buttons you know, to push to 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:13.080 irritate each other. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.960 So I think the time away has done us some good. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.960 I don't think we'll ever stop loving each other, but 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.239 we definitely got to the point to where, you know, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.880 everybody needs a little time away. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.240 A little Chicago. You know, it's well years. What's funny, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.760 I was thinking about you guys in Chicago one of 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.760 my favorite bands as well ever, and they, you know, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.600 they've made it work through different band members or whatever, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.240 they've always kept that name and that that sound alive. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.359 And so hopefully you guys will too. You've worked with 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:43.360 you worked with Chicago. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.160 Well, I'm in a band with Jason Chef called Generation Radio. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.920 Is he still in southern California? He lived out by me? 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.560 I think Thousand Oaks. Yeah, yeah, he's still out there. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.280 And so we got this band called Generation Radio that's 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.640 kind of a supergroup. We started out with Dean Castronovo, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.920 who's Journey Jason of course Chicago, and now we have 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.240 Steve Feroni, who spent twenty five years as the drummer 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.160 for Tom Petty and the Heartbreacords. It's a fun little 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.280 band and we released a we released a record a 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.800 couple of years ago. So we're out doing some corporates 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.040 and things. I'll just say Where can we find you, guys, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.760 because talk about a great night to go out and 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.639 see those guys jam You know, are you all on 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.040 social media? Where can we find you? 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.680 Generation Radio dot com And you can stream the music. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:31.720 On all platforms Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.080 I know that this is a tough thing to claim, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.520 since you know, we say we're the live music capital 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.600 of the world here in Austin. You're sitting in Nashville, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.160 which probably could really make the claim. But you guys 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.879 ever come over to Austin. Man, you got to let 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.760 us know because we do live music pretty well here too. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.200 Oh, you do it great. As a matter of fact, 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.720 our guitar player lives down there. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:03.960 Oh does it really? 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.000 Yeah, Tommy Yankton, you. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.720 Know something else that you and I have in common. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.920 And when we were together in twenty nineteen, I had 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.840 just started dating my then girlfriend Laurence Eaman, now my wife. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.400 But I realized later, Oh, we had kind of similar 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.760 ways of meeting our wives because you met on shooting 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.560 your music video for Rascal Flats. That's where you met 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.720 your wife. So basically at the office is where you met, 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.800 and so did Lauren and I. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:30.199 That's so great. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.760 And I always tell people don't shy away from, you know, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.399 meeting somebody at work. You know. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.399 The thing about Allison was she was engaged when she 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.720