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We're gonna bring back the Moist Line, 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: and it'll be the first time in two weeks. We 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: year from the listeners, or more precisely, the callers, they're 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: not the same. In many cases, many listeners never call 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: a radio station. The Moist Line can be accessed through 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app as a little microphone icon. You can 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: leave a message there. You can call the toll free 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. We're 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: also welcoming back the return of Tony Vlar. It was 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: announced today In case you missed it, Tony Vlaar is 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the new California Infrastructure Zar. Come on, let's go. So 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: as you're rumbling over all the decrepit freeways with the 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: potholes and you know the chunks of car on concrete 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: that have broken off the bridge, don't worry. Tony Vlaari 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: is going to fix all that. I like that. He's 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: not going to control Calcrans, but he's supposed to. We're 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna get a chunk of money from the federal government, 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the Department of Transportation for infrastructure projects, and Tony's supposed 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: to be the middleman figuring out where the one he's 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: coming from the FEDS and who it's gonna go to. 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: He's going to drive the paving trucks out here. That 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: would be cool, I could see with a little hard 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: hat on this old shriveled gray hair to Asben. It's 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: been nine years since he left as mayor of Los 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Angeles and not a lot has happened in his life then, 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: so this upmost to be very exciting. No, he just 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: went through a long series of women and the marriage 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: right went down the drains. So anyway, we're looking forward 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: to more speaking engagements. Tony Vlaar, I'm sure we'll be 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: interviewed by television radio stations up and down the state 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: for his thoughts on infrastructure. What's that word again? I 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: don't think he probably doesn't sell that. Yeah he could, infrastructure. Yeah, 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: shame on you. But we're good to see him in 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: the spotlight again. So now we're also bringing back a 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: subject we used to talk a lot about him the 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. You're probably aware that the state 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: has this humongous surplus, which, by the way, is going 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: away already. The latest revenue reports show that things shriveled 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: a bit of all. The stock markets are roaring back 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: in the last month. There was a pretty bad first 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: half of the year, so they were coming up short 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: in terms of the money they were expecting to be 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: grabbing and tax money, particularly from the wealthier residents who 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: really contribute most of the income taxes. I use the 65 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: word contribute, but it's not voluntary at gunpoint. So the 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: year to year surplus is really just how the budget 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: is from year to year. There's the long term situation 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: and the long term debt. In California, of course, is 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: very gracious and very generous to its state employees, and 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: as of June thirtieth, twenty one, the state has estimated 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that retirement benefits for the state retirees for their health 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: and dental that would be the state retirees, their dependence 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: and their beneficiaries is going to cost on bost one 74 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars. Now, what the state does is they 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: kind of put money away to prepare to pay that. 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Do you know how much money they've set aside to 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: prepare to pay thee hundred billion A four percent about 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: twelve dollars. The state has four billion dollars in a 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: trust fund to pay for the benefits. That's it. That 80 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: means ninety five billion is hanging there. It is one 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: of the state's largest liabilities, along with, of course, the 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: regular pension obligation. Again, don't confuse this. This is not 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: the pension. This is just the healthcare and dental benefits. Yeah. 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: And you know what, the more we spend on their healthcare, 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the more they're the longer they're going to live, the 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: more it's going to cost us. Here's how it works. 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: California pays roughly one hundred percent of health insurance premiums 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: for retirees who are hired before twenty sixteen, and ninety 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: percent they're beneficiaries. For those hired more recently, it's eighty percent. 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: So you remember Jerry Brown fostered through this pension reform. Yeah, 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: that was part of what happened. They had to cut 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: off that was that was to save twenty percent pretty much. Yeah. Beneficiaries, Well, 93 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I guess they're their spouses. Huh, that's generally who that is, right, 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I thought they're kids. Right now, was their kids become adults, 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: We're not paying for them, are are we? Well? I 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: imagine if that's who your beneficiary is, I guess they 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: have a name beneficiary on your record, and if that's 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: who you picked, we probably are on the hook for that. No, No, 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: I can't be. But when they die, it should be 100 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: over because they were not a state worker. Oh my god? 101 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Why why do people want to pay state workers this much? 102 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: The unions get it from the politicians because why is 103 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: that joint? Because they they bankroll their careers. That's right, 104 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: I know, But still the public don't do. The public 105 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: doesn't follow this, doesn't care. We're going to spend times. 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: If we mentioned the nineteen ninety nine dot com boom 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: story right when Gray Davis was governor, that's a second 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: time his names come up today, hasn't it, Tony Velar. 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: We're getting bad flashbacks here. Yes, this is weird ancient flashbacks. 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: But when the markets rant to roll back, then they 111 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: decided in the legislature almost overwhelmingly. I remember, like the 112 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: only one of the only no votes was Tom McClintock 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to give out big raises and pensions to public employees. 114 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: And when they did that, that got copied all over 115 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: the state by local government workers. We want what they got, 116 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: and we're still paying for that. And even though they 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: made a couple of changes. They're very minor. So as 118 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: of July one, twenty twenty one, four hundred and eighty 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: four thousand people were participating in the health insurance program. 120 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: That's one hundred eighty four thousand thousand who don't work anymore, 121 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: and most of them when they did work, they didn't work. 122 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: As as as state employees, what they do this, I 123 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: like some state employees started contributing toward their future benefits 124 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, but many did not start 125 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: making contributions until twenty seventeen thanks to their union. Like 126 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: that the union got them eight more years. That's pretty good, right, 127 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: He's like DMV workers they contribute from one point four percent. Oh, no, 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the state has hundreds of agencies. No, I'm just thinking 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: think of all the employee and development. You want to 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: look the list of agencies. But there's certain agencies that 131 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: are more objectionable than others. There are those are just 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: the ones you know about because you have any U 133 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: cross through. Right. But I'm just thinking, I mean, just 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: just about everybody works for DMV is bad at their job, right, 135 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's an agency for equity. There is probably oh, 136 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: the diversity Equity and Inclusion Agency probably is something along 137 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: those lines. That's that's paying. We're gonna be paying for 138 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: those people for a hundred years exactly. So that's the 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: damage that were seeing that we're going to have to 140 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: pay that much we haven't set aside. Now we'll move 141 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: over to a great story, which we'll probably have to 142 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: do in two parts because we have to break soon. 143 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: But it's too good. Edward Ring is a policy analyst 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: and he did a story for the California Globe. The 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: headline is, the average pay from Manhattan Beach firefighters is 146 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars a year. Now, 147 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: that's a damn good union. However they got representing them 148 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: to be able to pull that off well, And there 149 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: are so many categories of pay. There's base pay, overtime pay, 150 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: other pay, pension, health insurance. And you add up those 151 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: five columns and you get total compensation. And that's what 152 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about with that number. Yeah, and that's the 153 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: average three hundred twenty eight thousand. If you're a fire 154 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: marshal and your rank is captain, you get four hundred 155 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: ninety eight thousand dollars in Manhattan Beach. How many fires 156 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: were in Manhattan Beach last year, but I don't have 157 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: the data here because they don't have homeless people, not 158 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: too many. No, No, there's a lot of rich people there. 159 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Rich people don't start fires. They are no, they don't know. 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: And then there's obviously some medical calls there probably have 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: to deal. Well, yeah, but they're called firefighters. M What 162 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: stands out, mister Ring writes with respect to Manhattan Beach 163 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: firefighter compensation is the large amount of overtime they're earning. 164 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Ninety four thousand dollars. None of the other major cities 165 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: that he looked at comes close to that overtime expense. Okay, 166 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: so what is the emergency going on in Manhattan Beach 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: all year that requires that much overtime? Why? Why why 168 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: are all the firefighters so stressed out for time? Well, 169 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: here's how it was explained. Apparently, the City of Manhattan Beach, 170 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: whoever is responsible for this, rote a letter to the 171 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: city council trying to explain this. The Firefighters Association has 172 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: repeatedly stated they received overtime for hours work beyond their 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: normal hours, and that's how most of us interpreted. Right, 174 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: this is not true just because a firefighter receives overtime 175 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: does not mean they're working time over their regularly scheduled hours. 176 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: For example, a firefighter can be on vacation for two 177 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: shifts but work another shift in the same week and 178 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: get overtime. Oh so they got all kinds of stupid tricks, right, 179 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: So they're on vacation. Yeah, so they get paid for vacation, 180 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 1: but then they work another shift, yeah, to get the overtime. 181 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: These are all these complicated perks. They just make this 182 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: stuff up. It's like, remember where we found out the party. 183 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's here's a great example. Let's say, like you just 184 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: did you took like two weeks off, right, Yeah, but 185 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: let's say you didn't. You put in for two weeks 186 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: paid vacation, but then you stepped into the Conway Show 187 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: for two weeks, but they paid you for that too. 188 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: See in an essence that what's what we're talking about here. 189 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: So you'd get overtime for that, but you're not really 190 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: working more. You're still working like you would work the 191 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: John and Ken show, but you're getting paid the vacation 192 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: money plus taken over for the Conway Show. You get it, Well, 193 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: you remember that's what you're doing. The prison guards. They 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: would give them money for walking. It was like called 195 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: walking time, the time that they took to go from 196 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the parking lot into their locker room. And then they 197 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: were getting paid I think for dressing, for putting on 198 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: their uniform. And these were all extra bonuses that added 199 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: up beyond the pay because you have one pay scale 200 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: that you want to promote publicly, right, like we're playing 201 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: paying the prison guards and the firefighters X. But then 202 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: all the extras that doesn't make the headline, that doesn't 203 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: make most of the news articles. And that's where you 204 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: get to the overtime pay, the pension, the health insurance, 205 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: the walking to the locker room pay, the dressing time, hey, 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, the lunch breaks and all that. I think 207 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: if you're a union and you've been around long enough, 208 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: you have to come up with all those gimmicks because 209 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: if you're the union leader, they only want you for 210 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: one reason, get me more money, right, and bet you 211 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: come up with all of these creative ideas, but you 212 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: hide it. It's to hide it from the public. Companies 213 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: do this too, you know. Bosses sometimes tell the midlevel managers, hey, 214 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: we got to cut pay roll here, and sometimes the 215 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: midlevel managers sneak extra money by putting it in different columns. Right, 216 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: all right, we'll finish this when we come back, because 217 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: there's another way that the firefighters can apparently move into 218 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: an overtime category without actually working additional hours. And then 219 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: we'll get into the debate. I guess it is here 220 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: about you know, when you're in this kind of service firefighters, 221 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: police officers, you don't have as long a career. So 222 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: that's what we try to make like. They're like baseball 223 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: players and sports stars. They try to make more money 224 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: in a shorter time, except because they're not going to 225 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: work till the seventy that's that's an emotional cover story 226 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: because they have very lucrative pensions. That's how you cover 227 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: people with a early retire they get they get big pensions. 228 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: So that's already been addressed. All right, we'll talk about 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: all this week of back John and ken Kfi. You're 230 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: laughing again, so no, no, no, no, yeah, your voice 231 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: is like cracking up. I gotta keep my uh my 232 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: private thoughts to myself. You really do amuse yourself in 233 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: your little booth there. Well, because you're not here anymore, 234 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: so I have to sit here and giggle to myself. 235 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: You ignored me when I was there, not that I cared. 236 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: You would never keep you would sit there and stare 237 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: at the computer screen for like the whole four hours. 238 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't care about it, I said back, 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, plenty of rude things to you while 240 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: you were here. I say so, now say them to yourselves, 241 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: or say it out loud just for fun, or you're no, 242 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: I just think them now. We're talking about them to 243 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: my imaginary friend. We're talking about a situation dealing with 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: public employee pay, and the one that always gets the 245 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: stickiest involves people in public employment jobs that are involved 246 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: in police and fire. It always gets very emotional because 247 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: these are the jobs where these people are quote putting 248 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: their lives on the line. And of course we're strong 249 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: believers against to fund the police. Although did you see 250 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: today the El Segondo Times did a huge story about 251 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: how police departments around the country are desperate. They're losing 252 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: workers the whole to fund the police movement and all 253 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: the cutbacks. Yeah, it's just yeah, because it became not 254 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: worth it. I heard the other day that police are 255 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: now quitting even before you know they vest for their 256 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: for their maximum bentions. Right, they're just they're just getting 257 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: they're just getting out because they're they're given so much abuse, 258 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: they're not supported. They feel like every action is going 259 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: to lead them to be investigated or prosecuted, and so 260 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the heck with it. It's not my I got in 261 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: the business. And then we've done a lot of damage 262 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: to police departments round here. So all those to fund 263 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: the police A. Hales should be very happy. Got you guys, 264 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: got what you wanted. So they've they've been in contract 265 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: negotiations in Manhattan Beach with the City Council, the Manhattan 266 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Beach Firefighters Association, that's the official union, and they're in 267 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: an impass. They've been in impast since May. So last 268 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: month they packed the city council meeting to try to 269 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: get them the city Council to change their stance on negotiations, 270 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: claiming that they have not received the cost of living 271 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: increase over the last three and a half years. The 272 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: normally when you sign these pay deals, they have, you know, 273 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: sometimes an increase annually. But as Edward Ring pointed out, 274 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: when you look at their total compensation, they're earning on 275 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: average three and twenty eight thousand dollars a year, and 276 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: as we mentioned before, that includes everything that's benefits, that's pay, 277 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: that's over time. What's the question here? The question is 278 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: when is it enough? Because yeah, most most of the public, 279 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: most people don't know what firefighters make, and they're easily 280 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: emotionally manipulated. But by they're putting their lives on the line. Yes, 281 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: they're putting their lives on the line occasionally in a 282 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: in a place like Manhattan Beach, very occasionally. But what's 283 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: the limit? How much is too much? I mean, I 284 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: mean three hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars seems way 285 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: more than enough. I don't know how you make an argument. 286 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you got the fire captain making four hundred 287 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in Manhattan Beach. What is he captaining here? 288 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have brush fires, they have any brush. No, 289 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of brush, right, The sand doesn't 290 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: burn much, the homes don't burn much. They don't have 291 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: homeless there. Yeah, I mean I would imagine a lot 292 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: of them were medical calls. When you see them going by. Oh, 293 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure sometimes they send the whole big rig with 294 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: the with the paragraph, but that's not life on the 295 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: line stuff. No. Now, just before the break, we talked 296 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: about how they make the argument when it comes to 297 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: police and firework that these people have a shorter span 298 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: because they get older, they have to retire because they 299 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: can't do the job. It's very physical job, so to speak. 300 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: So a lot of times other time they're sixty years old. 301 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: But look at these pension numbers. They get plenty of 302 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: pension money added to there. The argument to that is 303 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: they don't live as long so because of the demanding 304 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: nature of the physical work. But how much is enough 305 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: then accounting? I think, because you know, no matter what 306 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: answer you have to their explanation, there's always another request, 307 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: and another request and another request. So when do you 308 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: hit the wall and say, you know what, this is 309 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: the last dollar I can pay you. Because we all 310 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: run into that in real life, don't we. Some would 311 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: even argue in this story that three hundred thousand dollars 312 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: a year isn't enough to buy a home in Manhattan Beach. 313 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: That might be true, but that's true for a lot 314 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: of people. You don't get entitled to live in the 315 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: town that you're protecting. I mean, there's a lot of 316 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: LA cops who live in SeeMe Valley because they couldn't 317 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: afford to live in LA I mean, that's not what 318 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: they didn't want to see. That's just endless excuse hunting. 319 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Well there's this, Well there's that. Well how about this argument? 320 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Well how about that argument? You know, and this is 321 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: like a lawyer brainstorming, how many, how many ridiculous, unrelated, 322 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: irrelevant arguments can we use to justify this? So Edward 323 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: Ring compares them to firefighters in San Diego with the 324 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: average fighter fighter pay and benefits packages half of what 325 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: it is in Manhattan Beach. Now, the arguments could certainly 326 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: be made that the San Diego firefighter job is busier 327 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: and more dangerous, and I would agree with that. Well, 328 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm looking at the total compensation for 329 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: all these cities. They have the top twenty five largest 330 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: departments here that they published in the California Globe. And yeah, 331 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: San Diego is paying total and man includes pen in 332 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: health and over time in the whole bite hundred forty 333 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: seven thousand, and Manhattan Beach is three hundred twenty eight thousand. 334 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: And San Diego, while it's the lowest out of the 335 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: top twenty five, it's not that much of an outlier. 336 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Fresno pays one hundred and sixty six thousand, Bakersfield one 337 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy, Modesto one seventy seven, Sacramento one eighty five. 338 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot in the two hundreds. Newport Beach to eighteen, 339 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach two nineteen. These are similar towns to Manhattan Beach. 340 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: So at some point when you look at all the 341 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: other towns with low fire risk, similar populations, Yeah, these 342 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these are seaside towns, right, These aren't 343 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: wildfire areas. You come back to Manhattan Beach, it's like, okay, 344 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: justify three twenty eight. When everybody else is getting in 345 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: the in the ones of the low twos, you wonder 346 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: if it's because it's a wealthier town and they can 347 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: get it from the tax base. Well, I mean, do 348 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the people know, I mean if they voluntarily want to 349 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: pay their fire fighters that way, But I you know, 350 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: do do people pay attention to any of this? So 351 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Ring says there were thirty thousand full time firefighters in California. 352 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: If they all made what they're making the Manhattan Beach, 353 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: it would cost four and a half billion dollars a 354 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: year and that would be, or you know, is there 355 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: is there some kind of you know, weird, you know, 356 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: just some sort of game going on somehow the Manhattan 357 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: Beach Council is profiting in some way by pleasing the 358 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: firefighters union. Now you wonder what it is. We don't know. 359 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: When you see such an outlier, I mean twice as 360 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: much as San Diego, more than twice as much. We 361 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: got more covered up, John and Can Caffine. Well, the 362 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: also Gonto Times has just run a new story this 363 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: afternoon concerning the man who killed the two El Monkey 364 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: police officers back in June. We covered this story heavily 365 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: because it all tracks back to the La County District Attorney, 366 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: George Gasconne. It's another reason to try to get him 367 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: out of office with a recall. This was Joseph Santana 368 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: and Michael Parredis who were responding to a domestic violence 369 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: call at a hotel in El Monte, and when they 370 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: got there, the girlfriend Carter, came running out of the 371 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: room saying he's got a gun. They went inside to 372 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: get Justin Flores, who apparently ran back into the hotel 373 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: room bathroom, but he came charging out and then immediately 374 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: fired on the two officers and then he basically took 375 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: their guns after they were shot and left dying. And 376 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: then they did die. He ran out into the parking 377 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: lot where he was confronted by other officers and they 378 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: killed Floris. His name is Justin Flores. We learned that 379 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Justin Flores got pretty good treatment from Ela County District 380 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Attorney George Gascon. He had a lengthy criminal record. He 381 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: had convictions for burglary and drug possession, and he made 382 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: a plea deal last year because he got arrested for 383 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: having a gun. And you know, when it comes to 384 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: George Gascon, that's not a big deal, even if you're 385 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a convicted felon, even if you have a strike on 386 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: your record. So he got probation and that's why he 387 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: was on the streets and around to kill the two 388 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: police officers. But the probation department never oversaw Flora's very much. 389 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: In fact, they only visited him once in sixteen months. Yeah, 390 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: that's the new story this afternoon, some of it. Though. 391 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, when I read it again, it looks like 392 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: they're trying to give Gascon a little cover here by saying, well, now, look, 393 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: the probation department didn't do its job, not so much 394 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the DA here. If the probation department done his job, 395 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: they would have taken him into custody because there was 396 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: all sorts of domestic violence going on and they didn't investigate. 397 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been on probation. Gascone exactly blew it 398 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: by not putting him in prison and where it starts. 399 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: And then the probation department further further, Yeah, right, because 400 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: they didn't actually monitor him, and so he was committing 401 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: all kinds of violations and that were just never followed 402 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: up on. The story is in the sixteen months that 403 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Justin Flores was under the department's supervision, this is the 404 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: office of the Probation Department, an officer visited him in 405 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: person only one time. The department repeatedly failed to initiate 406 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: desertion proceedings they could have resulted in Flores's arrest, even 407 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: after it lost touch with him for three months last year. 408 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: A documented gang member, Flores has a lengthy criminal record 409 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: that included convictions for burglary and drug possession. And then 410 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: we mentioned the plea deal, and on top of that, 411 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: his mother had called them to say, you know what, 412 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: he's got a gun, he's on drugs. Again, things aren't good, 413 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: and of course he's fighting with this girlfriend, which is 414 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: what led to the call to come to the hotel 415 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: where these officers lost their life. So it was all there. 416 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: For how many times this happened in the past. We've 417 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: talked about crimes the probation departments. Well, we're overwhelmed, we 418 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: don't have enough people. We can't possibly keep track of everybody, 419 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: we can't visit everybody, Okay, But then then the answer 420 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: to that is you fund them so that you have 421 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: enough probation officers and you do monitor everybody. Answer to 422 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: that goes back further than that. This is that this 423 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: was the crap we were sold to remember a B 424 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: one on nine in twenty eleven, Jerry Brown. The idea 425 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: was to release a lot of these state inmates into 426 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: the custody of like local probation and county people. And 427 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: they didn't You're right, they didn't fund it back then. 428 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: They didn't care. It's like they were already overwhelmed back then. 429 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: I don't think anything changed. Those are the county were 430 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: sold the bill of goods with the money they were 431 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: going to save on imprisoning these guys in state prison. 432 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: We could use that money to watch them locally, because 433 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: the real I DEA was just dump everybody out of prison. 434 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: And they didn't care about the consequences. They don't care 435 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: about dead dead adults, dead children, dead cops, dead nobody. 436 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: They don't care how many people get murdered by these criminals. 437 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: They just had this weird, sick, religious cult like ideology 438 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: that they adhered to, and none of the consequences matter. Really, 439 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: they really don't care. They're a bunch of sociopaths. And 440 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: that's that's the legislators, that's the county supervisors, that's these 441 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: these bureaucrats who runs the probation department. Who are these 442 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: probation officers. They didn't follow up on Flores for sixteen months, 443 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: it says, for three months January to March of twenty 444 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: twenty one, they did not make an in person meeting 445 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: with Flores. They really didn't know where he was and 446 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: they didn't know what he was doing. In early June, 447 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: and I kind of misspoke. A few minutes ago, it 448 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: was Floris's girlfriend's mother that called the probation department. Not 449 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: Floris's mother, but Floris's girlfriend's mother to say, he's using PCP, 450 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: he's carrying a gun, and he's abusing my daughter. What 451 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: was the follow up? There? Looks like nothing if Actually 452 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: both mothers called it various times. The girl the mother 453 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: said that she also called the probation officer right, yeah, 454 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: saying that a relapse treated by his cousin's murder caused 455 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: him to fall into drugs and guns. Now, the day 456 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: after the murders, a probation chief named Abdoufo Gonzalez has 457 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: said that they were going to review its threat assessment 458 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: tools and individual officer caseloadsibberish, you're right, gibberish, And he 459 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: called an emergency meeting. He wanted an audit of field 460 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: contacts between officers and probationers. Right, because the probation people 461 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: were supposed to call local law enforcement officers and maybe 462 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: re arrest Flores and put him back in jail for 463 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: the violations. But the probation department never responded to LA 464 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: Times questions about that emergency meeting. So what they do 465 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: is they go into hiding and nobody knows who our 466 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: adolphol Gonzalez is, right, he's see what he said. He said, 467 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: he's hesitant to make a habit of arresting probationers for 468 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: technical violations like a miss check in or a drug test. 469 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: But doesn't that tell you something maybe going wrong? So 470 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: what's the views to check in or take drug tests? 471 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: That probably they're up to no good because they know 472 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: if they come in and they get tested, it may 473 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: not be good. Why have the rules then, why do 474 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: you ever exactly right? And so they violate it and 475 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: there's no consequence. Well, you see what happen they see 476 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: that's the theme of all this. There's no consequences. What 477 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: do you mean he's reluctant. That's not why he gets 478 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: paid by us to be reluctant. He gets paid by 479 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: us because the push from above is don't send us 480 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: any more prisoners. We don't want him. Let's see. That's 481 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the big sin here. It's don't do what you 482 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: have to, don't keep him out of jails in prisons, 483 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: don't go looking for reasons to send him back. So 484 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: they're they're comfortable with the occasional dead cop, or the 485 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: occasional dead wife or dead girlfriend or dead kids. They're 486 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: comfortable with it. Al Dolfo Gonzalez is not comfortable taking 487 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: on his superiors in state law enforcement by returning these 488 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: people back to prison. He's not comfortable doing it. He's 489 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: comfortable with the idea of having dead innocent civilians who 490 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: are the victims of these monsters. And that's the harsh 491 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: reality that nobody confronts here, is that all these mid 492 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: level bureaucrat types, these Adolpho Gonzalez is there's really no 493 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: sense of urgency. There's no drive to say, you don't 494 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: want We're not going to have this happen again. We're 495 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna be on top of all these bastards and we 496 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: are going to nail him for every infraction, no matter 497 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: how minor, no matter how trivial. What makes all of 498 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: this so dangerous because they tell us so, don't worry, 499 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: We're going to keep an eye on them. We just 500 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: don't want to fill up the jails in prisons anymore. 501 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: That's no good for them and no good for you. 502 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: But then they don't keep an eye on them there 503 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: and and bring going back into this, remember what he 504 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: kept saying the days after these officers were killed. We 505 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't know that Floris was violent, Well, I don't know 506 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: we had a gun. And now we got mothers of 507 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: the girlfriend and his own mother calling you and telling 508 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: you he's got a gun, he's on drugs, and he's 509 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: beating up his girlfriend. Come on, that's somebody that's violent 510 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: and on the edge. But they ignored it. And there's 511 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: no consequences for these probation officials either. Who gets in 512 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: their face? Who fires them? Who who cancels their pension? 513 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: What do they suffer for this? They screwed up. It 514 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: led to a double murder two cops. So what's what's 515 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: there's where do they pay? All right, we'll finish up. 516 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Johnny can cafight? Did you see the 517 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: latest on that crazy guy who showed up at the 518 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: FBI office and they had to eventually shoot him shoot 519 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: him dead? No, not other than what I mentioned last hour. 520 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: They went to the January sixth insurrection. Yeah, he apparently 521 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: sent out a message to his I guess his his 522 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: friends as followers. If you don't hear from me, I 523 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: tried attacking the FBI and it does have to do 524 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: with Trump. Yeah, he warned me. I guess, yeah, he 525 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: warned he told his supporters to kill Feds, his supporters 526 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: after the Marlago search. Oh no, that's what he was 527 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: trying to do. Then he went there with what a 528 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: gun and a nail gun? Yeah, he said, Well I 529 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: thought I this is what he actually posted online. Well, 530 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I thought I had a way through bulletproof glass, and 531 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: I didn't. If you don't hear from me, it's true. 532 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: I tried attacking the FBI, and it'll mean either I 533 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: was taken off the internet, the FBI got me, or 534 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: they sent the regular cops in. People. This is it. 535 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I hope a call to arms comes from someone better qualified, 536 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: but if not, this is your call to arms from me. 537 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Leave work tomorrow as soon as the gun shop, Army 538 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: Navy's store, pawn shop opens, get whatever you need to 539 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: be ready for combat. We must not tolerate this one. 540 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: They've been conditioning us to accept charity and think we 541 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: can't do anything for two years. This time we must 542 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: respond with force. If you don't have any protests or attacks, 543 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: please post here. Whoa yeah, because I'm looking at progressive 544 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: media headlines. Though, is this going to start another round 545 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: of January sixth activities? Well at only around the country 546 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: of people like trying to attack the FBI. Yeah, well, 547 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: he was, he was ready to he was going to 548 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: go in that office and probably shoot. He died for 549 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Trump then, huh, yeah he did. He Did Trump have 550 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: anything to say about this, not that I see no. Wow, jeez. 551 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: The news today is that they're they're moving to unseal 552 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: the search warrant. I think the latest is the judge 553 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: has pushed it back to the Department of Justice, saying, well, 554 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: if if Trump okays it, we can do that. Trump 555 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: has to allow. I think Trump's lawyers sued to have 556 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: it released. So yeah, I think so too, but they 557 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: think they need the formal. Ricky Schiffer was his name. Yeah, forty. 558 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: I guess the nailgun was supposed to break the bulletproof. 559 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess that was the plan. He 560 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: thought that it would go through. He was wearing body 561 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: armor and it was the agency's office in Cincinnati. Five 562 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: hours standoff, then he fled, chased down the highway, abandoned 563 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: the car on a cornfield just off a country road, 564 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: and shot dead by police when he raised his gun 565 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: at them. He didn't care. I mean, he told his 566 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: followers beforehand that, you know, maybe I'm gonna be taken 567 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: out making news here locally, one of these cold case stories. Wow, 568 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: they've arrested a teacher. Excuse me, big lob there. A 569 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: former Inglewood Middle school teacher is accused of murder and 570 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: at least two sex assaults. Charles Wright is accused of 571 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: sexually an assaulting, and murdering a twenty one year old 572 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: woman by the name of Pertina EPs in April two 573 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: thousand and five. Her body was found in a car 574 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: port in Ardina, seventeen years after she was killed. He's 575 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: officially been connected to the murder thanks to I guess 576 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: better forensic evidence investigations. A detective said he was a 577 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: middle school teacher and worked for the Inglewood Unified School District. 578 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: He was arrested in January for her murder. He posted 579 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: a million dollar bond and was released from jail, but 580 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: five days after he bonded out, they arrested him again, 581 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: accusing him of a second sex assault that happened in 582 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. That was an eighteen year old woman, 583 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: a kidnap and sex assault incident. Now she survived, but 584 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: both women had in common is that they were both prostitutes. 585 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: So they do believe there's probably additional victims that this 586 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: man has attacks a serial killer. I wonder if they 587 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: used the old family tree thing again. You know they've 588 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: been using that to pick up some killers. Yeah, remember 589 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: the big cold case from a couple of years ago 590 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: here in California that they sometimes go to those ancestry 591 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: kind of websites and they're able to submit the DNA 592 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: they had from the crime scene and run it through 593 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: a family tree, right to see if they can pop 594 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: anybody out. Right, So right, even if you even if 595 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: the suspects not in the database, they can find all relatives. 596 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: Did you see that warning that came out a few 597 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago. We had it, but we didn't get tough 598 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: on the show that there's one of these I forget 599 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: whether what kind of expert he is, but he's saying 600 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: be careful of those um like submitting your DNA to 601 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: those websites, because they could actually figure out a way 602 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: to specifically weaponize how to kill you. Yeah. I did 603 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: see that. I remember, start to figure out what you're 604 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: because we're all susceptible to certain diseases based on our genetics, 605 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: I guess, so that they can come up with some 606 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: sort of biological weapon or something, Yeah, that they can identify. 607 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Don't leave your DNA in any kind of data basic 608 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: could be too late. Come get me. That's right, you're 609 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: already in there. I'm not you are though, right, Yeah 610 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. You want to tell how polish you work? 611 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: I was extremely polish. Big surprise, like way too polish. 612 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: Uh we got Conway here, hey now hey, no, well 613 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: we've got a lady who saw Bigfoot, right, and so 614 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: that's really cool. And then at eight o'clock we have 615 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: the Numbers lady coming on the number. Oh wait, Matt, 616 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: this is Nori's rundown show. This isn't mine. I don't know. 617 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: Forget it. Sorry about that. Steve Gregory's coming on? Do 618 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: you have a show tonight? I don't know, It says 619 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: the Numbers lady in Bigfoot. Steve Gregory's like your guests 620 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: in the closet. He's always there if you need him. Yeah, yeah, 621 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean I he doesn't talk much about that, um, 622 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: but he does like coming on. Yeah he can feel. 623 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, no, he's great. He's just all you're looking. Look, 624 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: he's the best reporter in in radio and or TV. 625 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: He know, he has the most connections. He's he's an 626 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: honest guy. He just gets in there. He gets he's 627 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: an old fashioned reporter. Yes, and he doesn't like talking 628 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: about it, but he loves coming on the show. Well, yes, 629 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: you love to have him. 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