1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast. It's been and Ashley back here, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: and we wanted to do a quick little recap on 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: the feedback we've seen and also kind of heard about 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: this new season of Paradise, because, after all, the show 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: has resonated with his audiences in a way that's all 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: this positive and negative, kind of like we were breaking 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: down on our Bachelor in Paradise recap before we get 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: into it. The premiere was Monday. Uh, and we've been 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: watching you and listening to you, and we're gonna try 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: to do our best of encapsulating everything that's been said 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: so far. Actually, I'll start it out here. I think 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Tanner Tolbert's post. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: Mike, you haven't pulled up Ben, are we mind reading? 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: I literally just pulled it up for this conversation. 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: I feel like you and I are like really clicking 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: right now. 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, today we're having a day. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: You are having a day, Ashley. Go ahead and read 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: it because I think it's the perfect breakdown of how 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: I felt, maybe how fans are feeling, because it wasn't 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: pure hate. It's it's kind of a divorce from the 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: old entering into the new. I'm not quite sure how 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: I feel, But Tanner said a lot of things well 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: in this post. 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: Totally okay. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: So he said, Bachelor in Paradise is now Timu Island, which, 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: if you're not familiar with Timu, it is like the 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: cheaper version of Amazon products. It's the Sheian, It's the 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Forever twenty one rip Forever twenty one. He's saying it's 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: the cheap version of Love Island. He said, these producers 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: are just trying to copy Love Island but are executing 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: it poorly. 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: The new location is silly. 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Either get a badass villa if you're gonna copy Love Island, 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: or stay in Paradise. This generic resort falls short of 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle, very stale feeling. The dream scenes 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: are so cheesy and force. This was very a very 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: popular opinion on social media. My bad for thinking that 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: these scenes were. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Like kind of fine, like kind of funny. 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: In which I said on our last episode, he said, 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: having the cast stay in separate hotel rooms is dumb. 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: It limits the amount of interaction and discussion between the 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: cast mates. I totally believe that that is one of 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: the major flaws in the new system. Having the cast 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: day in ceret rooms is just like, Okay, it's dating time, 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: and then it's like go to bedtime. It's just it's 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: not it's just not paradise whatsoever. And then he said 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: he's still hopeful that this cast can produce some good storylines. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: I truly am I'm not sure about I don't think 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a ton but I do think that 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: there is some good relationship meet forming overall. 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: He did a. 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: Poll said do you think would you like the new VIP? 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: Only thirteen percent said yes, eighty seven percent said no. 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: Hey let me pause you there. It goes kind of 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: against the poll that we did on Instagram. We got 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: a lot of great results coming in from our listeners. 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: The first question we asked on our pool was do 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: you like the new filming of the resort? Like the 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: new filming resort, so the one that they're filming in 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: now fifty five percent said yes, forty five percent so 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: that they missed the old one. We also asked this question, 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: do you like all the Dale months Moss entrance attention? 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: Seventy percent said they did not like it at all. 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: Thirty percent said they did because he's handsome. The final 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: question we asked was do you like money being involved 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: in Paradise? Twenty six percent said yes they loved the 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: competition of it all, while seventy four percent and know 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: this should be about finding love. 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: Now. 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: I think a little bit of that is based on 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: how we asked the question. However, the thing I want 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: to focus on first with you, Ashley, before we getting 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: anything else, and the thing I was most interested in 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: is really two topics. You know, I didn't love all 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: the Dale Moss love, but I can't hate on some 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: dude getting some support. 81 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: What people are saying that that is the bombshell entered 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: the villa that they have on Love Island, like he 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: was supposed to be the bombshell. 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: Which, yes, that is a extreme similarity. 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: Sure, I will say it this way. I don't hate 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't know Dale, so I can't say if he's good, bad, 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: and different. I don't love any of anybody getting kind 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: of put on a pedestal in these experiences. I think 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: all of them are beautiful, all of them are there 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: to find love. I like equal playing fields in Paradise 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: because it's fun to see the Tanner Tolbert's Mary the 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: Jades of the world, which nobody would have expected. Now 93 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: that Tanner's in not a handsome dude, he is, He's 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: a great guy. 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: Funny Jade was the bombshell who entered the villain exactly. 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: So that's why I say I like during these kind 97 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: of shows, especially Paradise, who does it, I think better 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: than anybody when it comes to the equal playing field. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: The Dylan's marrying the Hannahs, like, those are the scenarios 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: that stand out in my mind that I love. And 101 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: I think putting anybody on a pedestal makes them so 102 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 2: much of the pursuit that a lot of these kind 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: of like maybe quieter, nerdier people maybe don't get a shot. Okay, 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: that's my statement whatever. But the two things I'm most 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: interested to talk about with you on the breakdown after 106 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: our breakdown is the resource. So let's start there. I 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: think the reason I said Tanner said this perfectly is 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: because he's right. They either get a really great villa 109 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 2: for this show, or you know, they get some type 110 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: of how But I think the reason I said last 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: episode that it was hard for me to follow was 112 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: because of how segregated this resort is. They're just staying 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: at a resort. Even when I go on vacation with 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: my wife at a resort, sometimes we don't see each other, 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: like we miss each other. She goes to the gym. 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm at the cafeteria. We're not 117 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: seeing each other for a couple hours, and we meet 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: each other at the pool. It felt like this during Paradise. 119 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I want them back at one 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: house all together, intermingling. 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have made it an air conditioned place, 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: and it made it way boogier than it usually is, 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: but still kept the whole living together as a community environment. 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm with the fans. The resort not for 125 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: me so far. I'm not sold on it. The cast is, 126 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, somebody I do hope create storylines. We want 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: to give them the benefit of the doubt. There's still people. 128 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: They're very similar to the casts of the past. They 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: just don't have maybe the A listers like the Ashleys 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: that are there with them. But they'll do their best. 131 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: But really, the final point here that I want to 132 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: speak with you about is the cash prize. We kind 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: of glossed over it during our breakdown at the first episode. 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: I actually now, based on fans' responses, think it is 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: the most influential and crucial item to this first episode. 136 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: Oh I disagree. I will let you know what I 137 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: think is, but go ahead. 138 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I have solidly put my stake 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: in the ground now, and I would love to be 140 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: convinced otherwise. I have committed in life to be able 141 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: to change my opinion even when I feel strongly about something, 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: because that's how the best humans of history have operated, 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: and I'd like to try to get as closer than 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: as possible. But I don't like it right now. I 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: don't like that we have separated and kind of made 146 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: love now a money grab. It feels like what our 147 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: culture and society has done incorrectly, that we're feeling the 148 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: repercussions of where you know, kids are now meant to 149 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: be influencers, and money seems to be the easy pursuit 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: of everybody, and everybody's going to try to find their 151 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: way to get rich quick. The thing I loved about 152 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: Paradise Ashley was still the innocence, the craziness of the scenario, 153 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: but the innocence of the environment where the Tanner and 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Jade's me that Ashley and Jared's Me, the Hannah and 155 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Dylan's me and love is formed from this beautiful. 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: Place, Adam and Raven, Adam and Raven. 157 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: I just think money takes away from that, and I 158 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: don't want the distraction. 159 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I totally agree with you. 160 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: I think we I think the money thing is going 161 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: where we think it's going. But let's give him a 162 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: little bit of doubt. That it was just teased in 163 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: the trailer for the next, you know, the rest of 164 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: the season, and perhaps it's not as yucky as we 165 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: think it might be. I again think it will be, 166 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 3: but we do not have details on it yet. But 167 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: I found to be what people concentrate the most on. 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: When I'm looking at my responses on Instagram story, I 169 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: have like engagement is low this week people because of 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: Amazon's pride, But I for the amount of people who 171 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: have seen this so far in the past hour, I 172 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: have at least one hundred messages, most of which are 173 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: complaining about the editing. People saying that the editing was distracting, 174 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: that it was cheesy, that just felt way to produced 175 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: with that kind of editing, and that made the personality 176 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: of the show feel totally different. 177 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: So fans responses right now from all sides, following x 178 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: two messages we've received to the responses we've received on 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: the Almost Famous podcast, fans don't seem to be giving 180 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: up on the show. So that's a good thing. 181 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I think that they know that the 182 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: crux is there. 183 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: It's just definitely so if Rob Mills is listening to 184 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: this podcast at any point, or somebody from his team 185 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: is if you want to hear anything from the studies 186 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: that we've done that are very unscientific, Fans are not 187 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: giving up on the show. However, I do think fans 188 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: are a little bit hesitant to fall deeply in love 189 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: with this new format. And I think it all comes 190 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: down to how can how the season continues to be edited. 191 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: I think it comes because the resort if they could 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: edit that to be great, like they can make any 193 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: location work. We've done group dates in the weirdest of 194 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: places and they've made it work, and they made it 195 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: beautiful and they made it make sense. I'm not worried 196 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: about the editing that can change, that can happen. The 197 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: cash prize, I think is a concern. Uh, and so 198 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: how does that play out? And also how does this 199 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: cast step up to make the storylines that we that 200 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: we desire. We see in the teaser the Dale Moss 201 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: April makeout. I'm not saying that I want to watch it, 202 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: but I'm also not saying I don't want to see 203 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: weird stuff like that happen because it will keep me 204 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: hooked for the next week. 205 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's if that case isn't going was it? Is 206 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: it a makeout or did he doth? 207 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: I mean like a shot with like a shot? 208 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: Okay, it's like then it's being dramatic. Okay. So another 209 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: that bringing up Goldens with April. 210 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: People are thinking that that the resort change was because 211 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: of ac reasons for them. 212 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: No, people, that's not the reason. We know. We know 213 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: it wasn't because of that. 214 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: It was not because of the Goldens coming show. They 215 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: weren't saying, hey, the Goldens are coming on, let's get 216 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: a mac. I don't think that the Golds. 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: No, then they would have put the Goldens in a 218 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: different spot. If the case, it's interesting that they tease 219 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: the Goldens being there so much and then they didn't 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: incorporate them into a three hour long premiere episode. 221 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: Rumor has it they may not be in the next episode. 222 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: Either really see what I would have enjoyed is because 223 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm not so keen on them being there in the 224 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: first place, like I think most of Bache Nation's not. 225 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: But I would have been. 226 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: Down for two hours of the Young Ends and then 227 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: a second hour of the Goldens that would make sense, 228 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: or even Monday for the young Ins and Tuesday for 229 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: the Goldens. And our producer right now is saying that 230 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: they're yeah, not showing up until episode three. 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: Episode three, I think we'll see the Goldens, which will 232 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: be a weird mix in, but we're gonna see how 233 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: it works out. Hey, we're having a good time no 234 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: matter what. We're gonna be critical but also supportive. We 235 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: haven't a good time hearing from you, the fans, the 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: listeners on what you're thinking of this next season. There's 237 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: a lot going on and a lot for us to 238 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: pay attention to. So until we can continue to kind of, 239 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: I guess, fact check this and make sure that our 240 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: assumptions on how everything is going to happen actually happen. 241 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna stay positive. 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: Oh I am positive, I know, but. 243 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: You and I both really want this to work for 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: many reasons. One one of my best friends in the 245 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: world works on this show. I want to have a 246 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: job for the next twenty years. I want to be 247 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: sixty years old, and I want Will still behind the bar, 248 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: still mixing drinks. I want him to rock and roll 249 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: this thing forever. And we also just love the idea 250 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: of Paradise. But I actually, I will say this and 251 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I love the idea of Paradise 252 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: because it does put everybody on equal playing field, and 253 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to see that change. And they felt 254 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: like they were changing that with Dale, which to me 255 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: made this thing less desirable to watch, because I want 256 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: to see Dale Moss come in, or the Sam even 257 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: Sam's of the world, who should have been like a 258 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: hot commodity, right, good looking guy, stud suave, all those things. 259 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: I like that he went home right away, not for 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: his sake, but I like the fact that nobody was like, 261 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm all about it. Yes, Oh my gosh, give me Sam. 262 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: I just want to see how this thing shakes out, 263 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: because I think we get a better taste of who 264 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: these people actually are during Paradise. 265 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that so many of the changes 266 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: have dominated the chatter. But I do think that we'll 267 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: have some good stories come out of this. I enjoyed 268 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: many chunks of the episode. I just think that, you know, 269 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: the conversation is, it's just there's other things blaring in 270 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: our face. So I don't want to like on the 271 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: show at all. It was just because there's goodness in there. 272 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: There really really is. 273 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's the breakdown of episode one. That's 274 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: what you guys were saying. We didn't even mention in 275 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: our recap about Hannah Brown being a part of the show. 276 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 277 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: Now, Ashley, as we kind of close out here, we 278 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: get two episodes next week, the Goldens enter the beach. 279 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: From what we hear on episode three, what is your 280 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: thoughts on Hannah coming in to be the concierge. 281 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that makes so much more sense than 282 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: her being the supposed bubbly girl. Because you were a 283 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: little defensive of Wells. I think, I hope I'm not 284 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: like putting words in your mouth, but like when you 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: found out that, like Hannah was coming there, you were like, 286 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: they don't need another Bartet or the only champagne. 287 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: I think it is Hannah Brown. I'm just the guy 288 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: that's been there forever. 289 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's the concierge and they're supposed to 290 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: ask her for like, Hey, like I would love a 291 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: cute setup over by this spot. Can I do an 292 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: at home date? That's a cute idea to have her 293 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: there for that. However, do I think that Hannah's going 294 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: to be disappointed and the fact that she went and 295 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: spent three weeks down there and she might have like 296 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: three minutes total of their time. 297 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: Quite possibly. 298 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: I do think she might be. But she gets paid 299 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: if she shows up on an episode, so good for 300 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: her no matter how often she shows up. However, I 301 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: also know that like, this isn't just a character like 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: Well's works. He serves drinks all day at that beach, 303 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: so she is concierging. I'm assuming all day at that beach, 304 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: setting stuff up and actually like putting stuff together. We'll 305 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: see how she actually feels about it kind of of 306 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: this as the season goes on. I'll be interested, because 307 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't it's not just a hand me job. Like, 308 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: it's not just hey, Well stand up there at the 309 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: bar and say bars open and then leave and get 310 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: paid for it. No, you're gonna work it. You're there, 311 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: he does. 312 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would know, I would assume that, yeah, they're 313 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: like actually having her cut the strawberries and dip them 314 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: into chocolate. 315 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: I think it's so great good. It's nice to get 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: paid so much and be so humbled at the same time. Hey, anyways, 317 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: this is the Almost Famous podcast. It's great to talk 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: to you all. We'll be back with more episodes this week. 319 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: We have a headlines episode. We obviously have some really 320 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: great interviews coming your way. We'll keep talking about Paradise 321 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: and all the cool stuff happening. So until next time, 322 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: I've Been Been. 323 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: I've Been Ashley see Yah. 324 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 325 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.