Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Coughlin and podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: so last week we promised you guys, we'll not promise
Speaker 1: what we said. We might have a special extra episode
Speaker 1: of One Tree Hill on Wine Down, and so that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We are at the Convention Center
Speaker 1: right now and another room, but actually at the Convention Center,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we figured we'd be able to
Speaker 1: give you to um two awesome shows with some you know,
Speaker 1: some of the awesome casts that are here. And UM,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who's going to pop into be completely
Speaker 1: honest with you guys, UM, but I know some you
Speaker 1: know obviously Rob's here, Um Buckley, Leonorris is here, Um,
Speaker 1: David Bloody, James Lafferty. So yeah, I'm I'm just I
Speaker 1: kind of keep going in another room being like, does
Speaker 1: anybody want to be on wind Down? So hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: be able to get some some good folks in here
Speaker 1: for you. UM, so stay tuned, but first let's take
Speaker 1: a break. So excited Robert Buckley is sitting down with UZZI.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, so Rob, we were part of the new
Speaker 1: the new group, the new clan that came in you
Speaker 1: me and chantell um. Was it hard for you to
Speaker 1: come in with the expectation of kind of a new
Speaker 1: show and with Chad and everyone leaving? Or yes, how
Speaker 1: was it for you? Yes, because I hadn't seen a
Speaker 1: single episode of the show before I auditioned to you,
Speaker 1: and then I think, like, once it got close to
Speaker 1: the end of getting the job, I think I educated
Speaker 1: myself and I watched a couple episodes, but it really
Speaker 1: wasn't until after I got the job that I properly
Speaker 1: did my homework and then actually learned about the show
Speaker 1: like in the following, the fan following, and realized like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a very big deal to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And then the simple math of of I thought you
Speaker 1: had been I forgot that you came in there because
Speaker 1: three came at the same you guys came. I think
Speaker 1: you were a week earlier than I than I shot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, us three were the new cast. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just remember my brain went okay, um, two things left
Speaker 1: and two things entered. So if this goes off the
Speaker 1: rails in any way this season, I'm at least fift
Speaker 1: to blame. So yeah, I was terrified of you. Don't also,
Speaker 1: like you know, ited with like, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be the jar Jar Banks of One Tree Hill. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to show up and have fans be like
Speaker 1: especially I'm like phone in Chad's footsteps, right, like he's
Speaker 1: not Chat but like, but you weren't trying to replace Chad,
Speaker 1: but in a way, you had the expectation of replacing
Speaker 1: like the good looking dude and yeah, and just was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope they like this guy, and yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was what was your first impression, like
Speaker 1: when you started watching the show? Did you have any
Speaker 1: big takeaways? I think for me because I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: he never seen an episode either, and so I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I hadn't started. I probably watched a few episodes before.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the entire things. There's so many episodes,
Speaker 1: but I watched a few of the final seasons, um,
Speaker 1: just a few episodes just to see. But I was
Speaker 1: worried because you know, I with with Sophia and Joy
Speaker 1: is just you know, big, big characters, big personalities. I
Speaker 1: was kind of worried coming in. But I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like it, you know, it was good. It was
Speaker 1: just I think it's hard to come in on the
Speaker 1: show when you're at the very end and everyone's already
Speaker 1: formed their connections, so you're kind of just like, wait, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: who doesn't let you know? It's like, okay, you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Um. So it's convenient that we
Speaker 1: have robbed On first because I, like James said, I've
Speaker 1: never seen an episode so on the plane here, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I need to see what my
Speaker 1: wife's all about on the show. And it was season
Speaker 1: seven that came on, so I'm seeing both of you
Speaker 1: guys are like my first impression of One Tree Hill
Speaker 1: right here? Was the scene was was? Was she licked
Speaker 1: the side of my face at the bar? That was
Speaker 1: one of them? She know she uh she? You took
Speaker 1: a shot, she ate a line and and kissed you
Speaker 1: and then walked away kissed. I didn't remembers do we
Speaker 1: make out? No, you didn't make out that he took
Speaker 1: a shot and you kissed his lips to get the
Speaker 1: alcohol from his mouth. I just remember, didn't you like
Speaker 1: lick my face or remember looking part of your body?
Speaker 1: I don't remember what? Sorry, I mean, let's dive in
Speaker 1: racy times. What was the your favorite scene you ever filmed?
Speaker 1: There was a scene in either season eight or nine
Speaker 1: where we're in the hospital. Someone's in the hospital, so
Speaker 1: it's myself, Chantelle Sofa and I think Jackson and there's
Speaker 1: a saltine cracker eating contest. It's a real thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's the Saltine Challenger ting six trackers in a minute.
Speaker 1: And I'm competitive and just in real life anyways, but
Speaker 1: especially when you bring food into it, that really ups
Speaker 1: anty for me. The stakes get high, so I was like,
Speaker 1: I liked Johnte was like, let's I'm gonna go for this.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, Let's do it on camera. So every
Speaker 1: take was me. That wasn't acting. That was me for
Speaker 1: real trying to get six down and it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: like number one, you're like, this is going to be
Speaker 1: so easy, and two you're like, crackers are delicious, and
Speaker 1: three you're like getting kind of dry, and by four
Speaker 1: you're like, this is a this is a fool's errand terrify. Well.
Speaker 1: I love you. I know you have to go, but
Speaker 1: thanks for stopping and just saying, hey, anything you want
Speaker 1: to you know, promote, swipe up anything on the for
Speaker 1: the listeners. Next time you have me back on I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that really profound thing, and I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you all about my new pyramid scheme I'm working on. Perfect. Really,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be perfect for you guys
Speaker 1: and all of your listeners. Well, if you have another
Speaker 1: second when you come back, let me let us now.
Speaker 1: It's to a trilogy today. Okay, Oh that'd be fine, one, two,
Speaker 1: and three, Okay, okay, go sign. Hey guys are reporting?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm always on, it doesn't matter. Always prepared.
Speaker 1: A child actor, I came out of the womb right now. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, let's start with that. When did how
Speaker 1: old were you when you started acting? I did my
Speaker 1: first show, The Torchal Sins when I was nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was nine years old. Any Um, how did your
Speaker 1: parents know first of all that or did you say
Speaker 1: I wanted to get Yeah, so I used to watch
Speaker 1: The Cosby Show, um, back before we found out all
Speaker 1: the things that were happening. Um. But when I was little,
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, all the kids are on
Speaker 1: that show, and I was like, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: My parents were like you do, and they're like, but
Speaker 1: you live in North Carolina. That could be a problem.
Speaker 1: So I just did like children's theater was like the
Speaker 1: only thing, you know, they could get me involved in.
Speaker 1: But I loved it. And um, then when I got
Speaker 1: a little older, I had a crush on this girl
Speaker 1: who was doing a play and she told me about
Speaker 1: an agent that lived nearby, and so I was like
Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing like connections, Yeah, whatever, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Mom dropped me off exactly. UM. So I kind of
Speaker 1: dragged them into it. It wasn't the other way around,
Speaker 1: which I'm super happy about because you see, you know
Speaker 1: all those kid actors whose parents like kind of steered them.
Speaker 1: So do you have any regrets um doing that as
Speaker 1: a young age or um. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like anything else, there's things that were awesome about it.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been working your whole life. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you know, to look back on the people
Speaker 1: that I like, I I met. Um we were airing
Speaker 1: the same time as the Golden Girls were, so Patty
Speaker 1: White was like my grandma for like a day, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was like really cool things
Speaker 1: that you know as a kid, You're just like this
Speaker 1: isn't incredible, But then you know you miss out on
Speaker 1: some things too. Um and obviously just getting used to
Speaker 1: you know, being people knowing you as a kid is
Speaker 1: something to process. Um, But you know, I just looked
Speaker 1: out because I had great parents that sort of we're like,
Speaker 1: don't let this go to your head or whatever, and
Speaker 1: they put every time I wasn't working, I went back
Speaker 1: to public school, and so any kind of ego or
Speaker 1: whatever it was immediately, Yeah, because then I'm back in
Speaker 1: public school, and I'm sure than everybody else it's like exactly,
Speaker 1: so you know it worked out. How was that transition
Speaker 1: when whether it's public school. You and I were talking about,
Speaker 1: like you went to Wake four college, Like, how was
Speaker 1: that handling that when you're back into that just everyday
Speaker 1: life knowing what you've done or people recognizing you for
Speaker 1: what you've done. Yeah, No, I mean I think it
Speaker 1: was just when I went back, I knew that I
Speaker 1: couldn't get away with anything because my friends who knew
Speaker 1: me before I ever did any TV, were just like
Speaker 1: if I changed at all, they would have just been
Speaker 1: like who are you? You know, so it just kind of, um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't too bad. And you know that's a great
Speaker 1: thing too about school is it's kind of an equalizer,
Speaker 1: you know, you still got to study for that test,
Speaker 1: you gotta do whatever. And so it's just like a
Speaker 1: you know, a normal kid. So I'm really lucky that
Speaker 1: I kind of got to like work as a kid
Speaker 1: but also have school and kind of you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't just like plopped in a star trailer for most
Speaker 1: of my childhood. And now you're a parent and now
Speaker 1: I mean, so now, I mean does is work? Um?
Speaker 1: Because for me, like when I had kids, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, my purpose is completely changed. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: And I wake up and I'm like, okay, like I'm
Speaker 1: doing this form. I have to support the family. And
Speaker 1: what has it been for you? Having um? Having a
Speaker 1: new baby? Now, it's just I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: changes you in a way that you're not You always
Speaker 1: hear people say that, right that our parents, but you know,
Speaker 1: until it happens to you, like you just don't know.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, it's just given me so
Speaker 1: much more purpose I think is the best word, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like if I don't as you know, in
Speaker 1: this industry, it's like sometimes I feel like I'm chasing purpose.
Speaker 1: It's like if I'm not working, like what am I
Speaker 1: what's my next gig, what's my next job? Exactly? Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then when you are a parent, you're that you know,
Speaker 1: that thing becomes your being and what everything is about,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't it's not about you anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: In a way that's kind of freeing for me and
Speaker 1: great because I love him so much and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to just take care of him and um, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you want to provide for them and make sure
Speaker 1: they're you know, taken care of. Um, so that comes
Speaker 1: into play. But it's just been kind of kind of
Speaker 1: a peaceful thing in a lot of ways. That does
Speaker 1: have to be fulfilling, um, you know, coming from like
Speaker 1: y'all's industry and always getting the door shut in your
Speaker 1: face until you finally find that one that opens. Right
Speaker 1: to now have a child where you are the most
Speaker 1: important person in their life every single day, like you're
Speaker 1: good enough every day right to have that feeling. And
Speaker 1: so how is it for you, guys, Janna Anley, to
Speaker 1: be back like with this cast right where all these
Speaker 1: people who like watched you and they probably still look
Speaker 1: at you as these young characters in high school and
Speaker 1: going through what they've gone through. Do you, guys still
Speaker 1: look at each other a little bit in that way
Speaker 1: to be like, man, Lee actually has a kid, Man
Speaker 1: Janna has two kids. Man, you know Chad has kids.
Speaker 1: I love that we all have kids now. It's so fun,
Speaker 1: Like how is that is? It is part of you
Speaker 1: kind of still look at each other through that lens. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't in so like he grew up.
Speaker 1: He's obviously on the show from like day one, so, um,
Speaker 1: you know I wasn't in the high school days. I came, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm your wife, and I came to me that you no, no,
Speaker 1: I understand. Um. I think it's just cool again to
Speaker 1: be here, like knowing that you have a kid and
Speaker 1: and Brett's and they're like, I've known Brett even though
Speaker 1: we were on the same season, but like he's got
Speaker 1: a kid now, and I think it's you know, again,
Speaker 1: I don't know Hillary, but I think it's everyone's just
Speaker 1: kind of grown up and you know, it's crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think I could speak on this too, But
Speaker 1: like Sean Tell and I weren't really close when we
Speaker 1: were filming, but now we're we're so close because it's
Speaker 1: just one of those things where you grow up and
Speaker 1: you learn and you learn more about yourself and you're
Speaker 1: like the twenty year old version of me. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would have been friends with you, know,
Speaker 1: so I think, you know, when you kind of grew
Speaker 1: up and you start to really respect people's evolution, and
Speaker 1: I think you've become I don't know, like it's just
Speaker 1: it's even more of a um kism a thing that
Speaker 1: the word is anyways, it's more of just the I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just it feels. It feels good for sure,
Speaker 1: from me at least, I love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think and we're we're always going to have this
Speaker 1: like shared experience right of that time um and so
Speaker 1: I think it's whenever, like this is the first time
Speaker 1: I've seen you since we've finished or whatever, and so
Speaker 1: it's like and I like, we had so much fun
Speaker 1: together and now I feel like we're picking up where
Speaker 1: we left off. But also we're like these matured people
Speaker 1: who have kids, and we have things that we can
Speaker 1: bond overright now that we didn't then, and that's great
Speaker 1: and like we'll always have that. And like I'm you know,
Speaker 1: even though things have come out about our show that
Speaker 1: obviously weren't great at the time to shore, and so
Speaker 1: there's all this kind of backstory. But we went through
Speaker 1: that period together, we survived it, and I think we'll
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, always be tied to that. For sure. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I kind of hate that it kind of went down
Speaker 1: on that note though. I didn't like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just that's kind of bumped me up. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to get too into that. But have you talked
Speaker 1: to Millie? You know, we text occasionally. She's got two
Speaker 1: kids and a couple of kids, and she's awesome. But
Speaker 1: I haven't seen her in a while, and I'd love
Speaker 1: to because she's she's she's such a good person and
Speaker 1: an actress and uh, she's a great mom. I know.
Speaker 1: So did you think the show was going to be
Speaker 1: what it was? No? Definitely not no, because you know,
Speaker 1: and that was, you know, coming I was in the
Speaker 1: pilot from the very beginning, and we as I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've probably heard, I thought we were going to get
Speaker 1: canceled a lot of times, and we just kept sort
Speaker 1: of hanging on by the wire, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: credit to our creative team. They kept They really took
Speaker 1: advantage of social media, which was coming on at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, Facebook and all of that work sort of
Speaker 1: taking off, and um, they really utilized it and smart
Speaker 1: things like the musical tie ins and all of that,
Speaker 1: so they kind of found ways to market it and
Speaker 1: keep us coming back. But no, I mean, by I
Speaker 1: was telling Michael this yesterday, ended up taking ten years
Speaker 1: of ten years of my life. And when I first
Speaker 1: got on the show, I thought I was in college,
Speaker 1: and I thought I was going to go to law
Speaker 1: school and become a lawyer. And we're definitely not a lawyer. No,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not. And I'm so glad that I didn't
Speaker 1: end up doing that. Um, but you know, I had
Speaker 1: no I was like, well, I book this show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, we'll see what happens, because you know,
Speaker 1: you never know if a show is gonna go or
Speaker 1: it's going to be caned, and so I was like, well,
Speaker 1: who knows what will happen. And then ten years later,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty and I started it when it was twenty.
Speaker 1: I spent my entire time, you know, that entire time
Speaker 1: on the show. But I met my wife, and you know,
Speaker 1: lots of wonderful things happened. But do you find a
Speaker 1: credit ride? And all those seasons and episodes. Do you
Speaker 1: have anything that sticks out for you in your history
Speaker 1: of something favorite, like a day that you just really
Speaker 1: enjoyed or something filming that you just truly enjoyed. It's
Speaker 1: a good question. Um, I don't know. I mean there's
Speaker 1: especially because there's been people that were in and out,
Speaker 1: you know. But I think my favorite times when I
Speaker 1: think about people always like is there one scene or whatever,
Speaker 1: And there's not like a particular thing. I think it's
Speaker 1: just any of those times that you got all of
Speaker 1: us together shooting like late night. Yeah, Park City was
Speaker 1: amazing that we were like we I think I feel
Speaker 1: like we all genuinely had a really good time out
Speaker 1: and they felt like camp. And so just anytime you
Speaker 1: got us all together and it was late at night
Speaker 1: and we were loopy and just being silly, you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like growing up with those people, and
Speaker 1: those are kind of the moments that I sort of
Speaker 1: gravitate back towards. You know. And then you're going to
Speaker 1: be in a Tom Hanks movie. When is that kind
Speaker 1: of I think it's coming out in May. It's called Greyhound,
Speaker 1: World War two movie. I have a small part. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, don't do it? Why did you do that? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you're in a Tom I don't want
Speaker 1: people to go and be like it's Leonora's and Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks the Home. No it's not. But you're in a
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks movie. It's awesome. And like you said, he
Speaker 1: was amazing, he is. Yeah, he's just as like you know,
Speaker 1: I think I was telling you you're sometimes you're scared
Speaker 1: to meet your heroes, right because like what if they
Speaker 1: let you down? But he was he did not at all.
Speaker 1: It's like super professional and obviously talented. Um, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was kind of one of those I'm
Speaker 1: like standing there, you know, with him like five feet
Speaker 1: away in a scene, and there's moments where I'm just
Speaker 1: like basically pinching myself like this is happening. This is
Speaker 1: crazy that. Yeah, Well, I love you, and you've always
Speaker 1: been so sweet and kind and so thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on wind Down and just for being awesome. And
Speaker 1: you know we're always here to support you. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you ever have relationship problems, you should listen to
Speaker 1: wind Down because we're just we'll get your right on track.
Speaker 1: As we found out, we have the connect the GMU
Speaker 1: connection with my wife and Michael. So we've got a
Speaker 1: good reason to come visit us in Nashville and I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Yes, by guys, Okay, so excited because Antoine
Speaker 1: Tanner Skills just sat down to wind down. What are you?
Speaker 1: How you been? I've been married? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like the Dumbo? How long you been married for? We've
Speaker 1: been to good since so what's that? Twenty some years
Speaker 1: we've been married for? Oh? My goodness? And how many kids? Again? Four?
Speaker 1: Four kids? Two boys, two girls. What is the hardest
Speaker 1: thing about marriage for you? Um? Really? Me and my
Speaker 1: wife are best friends though, so it's a little different.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's just like bills and the kids,
Speaker 1: just trying to keep you know, once the kids get older,
Speaker 1: it's just trying to appease everybody when they start going
Speaker 1: to their own directions on what they want to do.
Speaker 1: It's just you know what I'm saying, You go through
Speaker 1: the phases. How do your kids with having older kids
Speaker 1: and them seeing what you've done and your profession everything,
Speaker 1: How is that now? Because I feel we are only
Speaker 1: experienced little kids, so they don't really understand the concept yet.
Speaker 1: So how's it with your older kids understanding what you've
Speaker 1: been able to achieve and seeing you on you know,
Speaker 1: the big screen and stuff. Well, you know what, all
Speaker 1: of my kids, none of them are in like the entertainment.
Speaker 1: It's like they never really like you know, they watch
Speaker 1: it like they never forget. I had a movie come out.
Speaker 1: My son went to the premier and he was sitting
Speaker 1: on my lap and he was like, man, how long
Speaker 1: is this movie gonna be? Like when is it over?
Speaker 1: Like any every day they don't care. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're just dad, Like they don't care, Like
Speaker 1: I got a game at six, you're gonna be there?
Speaker 1: What time do you? You know? Come? Can you drop
Speaker 1: my friend off? Like you know, sentence like that. It's
Speaker 1: like it's totally different when they're not like entertainment kids,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They just kind of everybody's
Speaker 1: like doing their own thing. You kind of missed those
Speaker 1: days when they're like like you guys kids are like,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's the fun time because they're like
Speaker 1: under your neck and you get to do a little
Speaker 1: stuff with them. And then you know, when they get
Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen, they don't want nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1: They'll be like, O, can I spend it that in
Speaker 1: my friend's house? Yeah, I'm probably not coming home for
Speaker 1: like too much. Like you know, like they don't want
Speaker 1: to be bothered with you, and then you feel but hurt,
Speaker 1: so you'd be like, oh, well you don't come see me.
Speaker 1: And then when they get older than they want to
Speaker 1: come back. So it's like it's a transition period. Oh
Speaker 1: it's so fun. I can't wait. Um. So obviously you
Speaker 1: were you know, you were the O G. So you
Speaker 1: were there from day one with Tree Hill? Um is
Speaker 1: that something where it's just like how how awesome of
Speaker 1: feeling has that been? Just knowing that like you've you've
Speaker 1: been on some many you weren't on all the seasons,
Speaker 1: and you were there from day one and that you know,
Speaker 1: the Tree Hell fans are this amazing and if you
Speaker 1: have been there this entire time, it's crazy because Um,
Speaker 1: I think with like Hulu, Netflix and all the different channels,
Speaker 1: we get new fans like every year because they go
Speaker 1: on and they binge watching, and it's it's kids that
Speaker 1: I've met recently that's like, oh my god, I love
Speaker 1: you and they're like sixteen. And then I do the
Speaker 1: math and it was like you weren't even born when
Speaker 1: the show was on the on the air. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like it was off the air when you was like three,
Speaker 1: so what do you know about it? And And they like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you have kids. Is like I had
Speaker 1: kids before they had kids. Like it's like really weird,
Speaker 1: but it's cool. I mean because if you look at it,
Speaker 1: a lot of people they always say, you know, certain
Speaker 1: shows you get the you know, they all look at
Speaker 1: the residual payments from it. Know, like if you do
Speaker 1: any shows, the residuals always go down. With this show,
Speaker 1: it hasn't gone down because of the conventions and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So this is actually the residual because they
Speaker 1: is like the fans like they outpour for this stuff
Speaker 1: and it's so crazy. I know. It's like every time
Speaker 1: at a show, it's like one try Hillers. It's like
Speaker 1: like they're the loudest in the room. Yeah, they support it.
Speaker 1: So it's it trips me out because I've been on
Speaker 1: other shows that's been off the air and you know
Speaker 1: you can see somebody but oh yeah it was on
Speaker 1: the show. Cool, but they don't want to take a
Speaker 1: picture with your hill fans be like I need my
Speaker 1: picture you signed. This is like so inspiration. And then
Speaker 1: here's the DVD cover I've been carrying around, Like but
Speaker 1: the only differences with this show has so many different
Speaker 1: lessons like life lessons. What have you taken away from
Speaker 1: those life lessons? I mean just like like the school shootings,
Speaker 1: like we did stuff that happened before it happened, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or when it was like
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like a occurring the event type thing.
Speaker 1: It just was those were just the stories. That's just
Speaker 1: what kids were going through. And a lot of those kids,
Speaker 1: like I see them right on there. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like you changed my life the way you overcame this
Speaker 1: and the way you overcame that, and you're just like, damn,
Speaker 1: that was a character. But for some people, they really
Speaker 1: they really grasped that and they grew from that, and
Speaker 1: it just you know, so at a certain point it
Speaker 1: kind of felt like you're like, damn, that's that's dope.
Speaker 1: And for me, I never even really watched the show
Speaker 1: that much. I've probably seen seven or eight episodes. I
Speaker 1: just never really watched myself. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that's out I've never really watched I go to work
Speaker 1: and I go to the next project. But you know,
Speaker 1: but for them, they take they take it, and I
Speaker 1: get it because I watched, you know, like I like
Speaker 1: The Walking Dead and I like certain shows that I watched,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, that that was good.
Speaker 1: That's so I can understand that the passion for it.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, when you watch you don't take
Speaker 1: the same thing away from me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you guys? Do you guys ever like being on
Speaker 1: a show like this and you know you're there from
Speaker 1: day one, Jane, You're had the last three seasons, but
Speaker 1: being on such an impactful show? Is there any negative
Speaker 1: to that? Is there anything that you're like going into
Speaker 1: the rest of your career after being on something like
Speaker 1: this that you feel like you're only looked at as skills,
Speaker 1: you only looked at as alex you prey where it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes you want to be considered for other things
Speaker 1: that you've done or that you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true because like it's like some shows that I
Speaker 1: be wanting to go up for, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But then they'd be like, um, he's not that type,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times they just won't give you
Speaker 1: the chance to even go in, and then you go
Speaker 1: in and be like, I'll be like, oh, well, we
Speaker 1: didn't know he had that much range. And that's just
Speaker 1: because that was your particular character on the show, and
Speaker 1: that's just how they wrote your character to stay in
Speaker 1: this lane because you weren't. Like my character on the
Speaker 1: show was all comedy. You know. I really never had
Speaker 1: that many serious moments. I never really had no conflict
Speaker 1: love life, like crazy love life. It was all comical stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody else had so much drama. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody had to make somebody laugh everybody. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: else you're gonna cry saying you get killed or you crying,
Speaker 1: and then here comes skills. Everybody left. So sometimes when
Speaker 1: I go out for like certain serious roles and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and they don't they don't see me.
Speaker 1: But I've always been able to do both with no
Speaker 1: problem unless they can like go back to look at
Speaker 1: your body of work, which a lot of the newcast
Speaker 1: and directors and stuff like that, they don't go back
Speaker 1: and look at at what you do. A lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff now is not talent based, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think it's more popularity based, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like I've been to certain auditions where they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, let's see how many And I was late
Speaker 1: to social media, so like I'm behind everybody because it
Speaker 1: took me a while to get on social media. But
Speaker 1: I've seen him like, well, how many followers he got.
Speaker 1: I've seen people book rolls just based on followers, and
Speaker 1: there's other guys just so much more talented than they are,
Speaker 1: but they're like, well, you know, he has an audience
Speaker 1: and people is gonna watch. He could promoters like free
Speaker 1: promotion because social media is free. So it's not like
Speaker 1: back in the day where you know, because I've been
Speaker 1: acting twenty four years crazy because we were on the show,
Speaker 1: we didn't there wasn't we didn't have Instagram when we
Speaker 1: were on the show, which so crazy to think about,
Speaker 1: Like we did not have Instagram. You had to go
Speaker 1: in the room, you had the audition, and you had
Speaker 1: to beat the next person out. That's just what it was.
Speaker 1: It was mono imano and if you didn't beat them out,
Speaker 1: you didn't work. That was and even just being on
Speaker 1: the show too I mean all the all the pictures
Speaker 1: that we didn't get because we didn't have social media,
Speaker 1: so we couldn't post it. You know, we weren't taking it.
Speaker 1: We weren't busy taking photos and posting them. Were living this.
Speaker 1: This is what's crazy. This is how you know that
Speaker 1: social media is like king right now because um, myself,
Speaker 1: Hillary Buckley, Dania, we were all doing a Christmas movie,
Speaker 1: um the Christmas Contract, and we weren't supposed to say anything.
Speaker 1: So Hillary came up with this idea, like everybody just
Speaker 1: turned away, take a picture and just say working on
Speaker 1: something with some new people. And then so but all
Speaker 1: of us took the picture where we all like just
Speaker 1: turned away, each one of us, and we all posted
Speaker 1: it and let the fans figure it out. So they
Speaker 1: figured it out. Then Lifetime I was like, you guys
Speaker 1: got to take that down daniel Lewis's project. Ye, Dine's
Speaker 1: supposed to know that we said, but we didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: All we did was just took a picture and it
Speaker 1: was working on something new with some friends. But they
Speaker 1: didn't know which friends because every like if I took
Speaker 1: the picture, I was smiling, but everybody else in the
Speaker 1: back was turned away and everybody took the exact same picture,
Speaker 1: but it like blew up like overnight. So when they
Speaker 1: was I was like, yeah, y'all got to delete it.
Speaker 1: So we all deleted it. The next day, like everybody
Speaker 1: else started calling like we want to come in, we
Speaker 1: want to interview. So I was supposed to go back home,
Speaker 1: and they made us stay because all this like you know,
Speaker 1: all this different media was coming in to interview us,
Speaker 1: and you're you're welcome Lifetime. Yeah. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they was like, Okay, you guys can talk about it,
Speaker 1: but that's just how like shows you how social media go.
Speaker 1: Was like, it's way different now. Like I said, just
Speaker 1: back in the day, you had to literally prepare for
Speaker 1: your audition and let me read, let me rent lines
Speaker 1: with this person, let me get let me get in character,
Speaker 1: let me focus, and let me go in there now.
Speaker 1: And they're just like what's this? Twitter look like, uh,
Speaker 1: what's this? So? I know Tori doesn't want to ask it,
Speaker 1: but I'll ask it for her. Since here Lucas's boy.
Speaker 1: Do you think he ended up with the right girl
Speaker 1: the end on the show who he ended up with? Peyton? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't watch it I'm serious. I like, like like
Speaker 1: eight episodes. But I mean, you know, you read the script,
Speaker 1: so in your I never read the script. I read
Speaker 1: my episode. I read my part, and I would film
Speaker 1: my part and that would be it. I would be like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: we off man. I had I had stuff to do
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember, I had kids. I had kids
Speaker 1: in California. You know, I was living here, trying to
Speaker 1: make sure my marriage is doing it and trying to
Speaker 1: make sure I'm dad. You know, you can't miss certain things.
Speaker 1: So I would just come in. I would like, literally
Speaker 1: read this, do this. Then I got to go home
Speaker 1: and help with homework. Then I got to you know,
Speaker 1: like I would literally film for two days and jump
Speaker 1: on a plane. It was one time I never forget.
Speaker 1: I jumped on the plane at six am to get
Speaker 1: back to l A at ten to go to my
Speaker 1: son's um violin He played the violin to go to
Speaker 1: his recital at four, and then I was on the
Speaker 1: red eye to get back here to go to work
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. But I had to do it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, what are you doing right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I've been working a lot. I did um n c
Speaker 1: I s Lucifer. I've been booking a lot of little
Speaker 1: shows here there, and that's awesome. Well, everyone go follow
Speaker 1: Antoine on Instagram. Get him up Antoine how I couldn't
Speaker 1: use my name because my son is a junior, and
Speaker 1: so he used when I went. When I finally got
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I was like, why can't I use my name?
Speaker 1: And I think it was funny. I think you follow
Speaker 1: a fake page of mind or something and he was like,
Speaker 1: this is not um, you have a fake page. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even have a page. So
Speaker 1: I got on here later, so like, welcome on there,
Speaker 1: we got you. Thanks for coming on bed, thanks thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Y'all be good. Alright, So just to
Speaker 1: get a little um one tree Hill fan catch up here, Kylie.
Speaker 1: How is it, how's the room? How's the energy up there?
Speaker 1: What's been going on? Well? The energy today was kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. I think it's like the massive amount of
Speaker 1: Tree hillers today, and I was a little overwhelmed, not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, I was just a little bit overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: how many people were in there. But I think that's
Speaker 1: like super awesome for you guys, because these things keep
Speaker 1: happening if there's a lot of people, who is the
Speaker 1: coolest person that you saw today? So this morning, Jana
Speaker 1: said we're all out at nine fifteen, and for some
Speaker 1: reason I didn't hear that, and so it was nine
Speaker 1: tin and my hair was wet and I had no
Speaker 1: makeup on, and I was like, all right, cool, it's fine,
Speaker 1: we'll have time in the car. And then we walk
Speaker 1: into the lobby and they're hands Chad, Michael Murray, James Lafferty, Hillary,
Speaker 1: and I was like, James, wow, and I just like
Speaker 1: look back at Jana and I was like, I can
Speaker 1: not right now. And then we got in the content.
Speaker 1: She's like, how excited are you? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little bit disappointed because I looked
Speaker 1: like the way I'm a beautiful blah blah blah. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but like honestly, like there's a standard. So I mean,
Speaker 1: but then I got to play with their kids and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then now you're Danny to the stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you're inside playing with Chad's kids. Kylie, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my baby. I just like extra money. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: a hustler like you, Janna, Like I I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I like it, Jannis, my priority, any anyone that you
Speaker 1: talked to that you just um have a new found
Speaker 1: love for. Yeah, you know, I'm just kidding. Alex Um No.
Speaker 1: Hillary Peyton is just as genuinely nice in person as
Speaker 1: she is on the show. And like she doesn't have
Speaker 1: her kids here this weekend, but she was like sitting
Speaker 1: down down with the kids playing and just like sharing
Speaker 1: the French fries, letting them stomp all over them. And
Speaker 1: so the payton that I loved and dreamed of as
Speaker 1: a um as a teenager is the exact payton that
Speaker 1: she does in real life. So that's awesome. Well, thanks
Speaker 1: for the insight, Kylie. You're welcome by Hi. I am
Speaker 1: so excited right now because I see Stephen Coletty and
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping he's gonna come over here because Alex
Speaker 1: inside of me is just I'm yearning for some Challex,
Speaker 1: Chase and Alex action. Did you guys have was that
Speaker 1: girl's name? I don't remember what they called us. I
Speaker 1: believe it was Where was this character's name? It Chase
Speaker 1: and I was Alex, so I believe it was Alex,
Speaker 1: but I'm not really sure it's there. He is, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Stephen COLETTI, will you come on, Mike, there's
Speaker 1: your there's your headphones right there. Everyone, welcome to wind Out.
Speaker 1: It's been long awaited, Stephen. I am so excited. It
Speaker 1: is good to be here. So I think podcast started.
Speaker 1: Everyone's been waiting for Stephen to get on. Yeah. I know.
Speaker 1: How many times did you guys make out or kiss
Speaker 1: in the show? Um? All right, just in the show? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just just just on record, Um, that was probably a
Speaker 1: solid like seventy three probably yeahs counting, you know, but
Speaker 1: I didn't you remember the exact number any too much
Speaker 1: to remember. I get in and then if we're in totality, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so awkward right now. So
Speaker 1: do you want to tell Stephen what? Because he had
Speaker 1: never watched, he had no idea about who who, Alex
Speaker 1: was like, do you want to tell you know what?
Speaker 1: You kind of said last night? Oh yeah. I watched
Speaker 1: the first couple of episodes Jana was in and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, coming in into this environment, I should
Speaker 1: know a little bit of your research, right, And I
Speaker 1: look over at her on the plane as I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the worst. I'm like, Alex, do you
Speaker 1: praise sucks. I'm like, how do people like you? Okay?
Speaker 1: So this is the perfect setup for for the question.
Speaker 1: I get the most about Chase and really and Alex
Speaker 1: and and it's like, all right, is it Mia? Who?
Speaker 1: Kate Vogel another character on the show. She played Mia,
Speaker 1: and and Chase dated her and dated Alex and they
Speaker 1: ask who would you pick? And who do you think
Speaker 1: Chase should end up with? And I always say me,
Speaker 1: I know you do and it really makes me mad.
Speaker 1: I was that like, she Alex is a bit of
Speaker 1: a nightmare. I was like, if you don't do not
Speaker 1: date actresses, steer clear there, She'll only be one head
Speaker 1: shot in a relationship. All right. But we had so
Speaker 1: much fun filming. I take it. I take it very
Speaker 1: personal when you when you keep saying Mia okay, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about Alex really had a turnaround? Man,
Speaker 1: because he was just like Michael was like, are do
Speaker 1: you get likable? And I was like, well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: get a boyfriend, but could he trust that though I
Speaker 1: loved you, look, you are not the first to say that.
Speaker 1: And then also just steamroll my heart, all right? And
Speaker 1: every time I get up, I dressed myself off and
Speaker 1: I say, okay, let's do this again, and I get
Speaker 1: my heartbroken, but you didn't. Like all I wanted was
Speaker 1: someone to be Are we talking about real life or
Speaker 1: characters right now? I just got lost. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: our characters. Like Alex wanted to like she wanted that
Speaker 1: commitment and you didn't really give it to her. I
Speaker 1: know that you were that broken. Trust is broken. Trust.
Speaker 1: You know I didn't do anything wrong, that's debatable. What
Speaker 1: did I do? Oh my gosh. See they just conveniently forget,
Speaker 1: don't they? Alex? Didn't she believable? Did I? We'll see,
Speaker 1: We'll see what to bring it up? Alex. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is is I really wanted to be with Chase,
Speaker 1: And you know, it breaks my heart a little bit
Speaker 1: that he chose the safe option, and he chooses the
Speaker 1: safe option? Is that why you kill yourself? I didn't
Speaker 1: kill myself spoiler alert. People who are listening have seen that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I think that, Ulian, because in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: you were too big for Chase. You belonged with like
Speaker 1: you're going to go off. It just really triggers my
Speaker 1: heart a little bit. You would you were going off
Speaker 1: to marry Tim McGraw or something like that, You're gonna
Speaker 1: go find your country star chases, but I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I want to Chase. I was chasing Chase. But I
Speaker 1: knew just like it's not true you got him, you
Speaker 1: just didn't care. That's not true at all. I had.
Speaker 1: I went off to do my music and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be you know, go fly planes. And
Speaker 1: then it was just to be a superstar. And but
Speaker 1: I was waiting for you. I waited for you, and
Speaker 1: she's still out there somewhere, just waiting in the wings.
Speaker 1: Poor Alex. Everyone feel bad for Alex. We to fund
Speaker 1: the right. We did. We did. I I always said,
Speaker 1: I think my my most fun was shooting with you.
Speaker 1: We had a good time. Yeah, Yeah, it was always
Speaker 1: a blast on set, and those days seemed like the easiest. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We were always laughing and having a good time. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we we would just come just skipping on a set
Speaker 1: and then you know, i'd probably go chase butterflies and
Speaker 1: you would have to snap and get me focused, and
Speaker 1: even like, hey Steven, Steven, let's go, well that's it's seriously,
Speaker 1: was having upstairs too, because we were taking photos together.
Speaker 1: He kept like like Stephen, I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: like flashbacks to when we were filming. I know I'm
Speaker 1: not the first one we're working here, Tory, I know
Speaker 1: you're losing your mind right now. Do you want to ask? Yeah? Well, um,
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach was my first reality TV show that I
Speaker 1: used have to sneak from my parents. Was a lot
Speaker 1: of people's first Yeah. I think it was like technically
Speaker 1: the first first reality there. There was many, There were many,
Speaker 1: many more because I was like I remember going into MTV.
Speaker 1: There was our generation. I think, yeah, the Osborne Show,
Speaker 1: there was the Nick and Jessica Show. Because I read
Speaker 1: a big world. Yeah, but I would sneak it because
Speaker 1: all my older siblings would watch it and I'd be
Speaker 1: like watching dishes, like trying to watch my mom and
Speaker 1: be like, nop, you know a lot to watch it,
Speaker 1: and you guys are a little scandalous for me at
Speaker 1: that age. But I think it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 1: You and LCS still healing over it. Yeah, it was, Man,
Speaker 1: that was half my lifetime ago. Now I'm thirty four
Speaker 1: years old and I was seventeen when I started doing
Speaker 1: thirty four. Yea, I'm wow, what's wrong? With four. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because I just remember you being so much younger than me.
Speaker 1: But at the time I think you were what was
Speaker 1: that ten years ago, So at the time that was
Speaker 1: a lot. We were twenty four and at the time
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm twenty six years old. I felt
Speaker 1: older than I felt like three years afore. I'm probably
Speaker 1: be thirty three. There's such a different different generations. I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think there's I think you know,
Speaker 1: there's something to be said about twenty four year old
Speaker 1: guy versus the twenties six seven year old girl with
Speaker 1: immature Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think that's double
Speaker 1: at that point in those years younger. I feel like
Speaker 1: where a girl is around, a guy gets to around
Speaker 1: like ways behind her. But if you start calling him
Speaker 1: a millennial or something, then I'm technically a millennial. So
Speaker 1: are you sure you're pretty old? Yes? I like home.
Speaker 1: Mike think with our powers can bind, we can handle alec.
Speaker 1: So I know that you said, especially with makeout scenes
Speaker 1: and stuff. You've always asked me, is it you know,
Speaker 1: is it weird for the girl? And I always say,
Speaker 1: because I've never actually asked another guy, Um like For
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, it's it's not you don't really
Speaker 1: feel anything because there's a camera, people everywhere, and there's
Speaker 1: a you know, the director, and it's just so many
Speaker 1: people watching that it's not like an intimate thing. That's
Speaker 1: what I've always like, I told him, Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: really there's there's no there's no feelings. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's not romantic. No. Yeah, so you feel the same
Speaker 1: way because I don't even remember like one of the
Speaker 1: bed scenes that we did, we were like on top
Speaker 1: of each other and then it's like cut and then
Speaker 1: we roll off and because what do you need lunch,
Speaker 1: were like picking like crap out of our teeth and like,
Speaker 1: so just I'm just trying to comfort you. And I've
Speaker 1: been fine. All I've had to experience is homework in
Speaker 1: Lifetime kisses. So it's again it's until you get that
Speaker 1: showtime series or something, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm stay home for this one. I'll ask grap of
Speaker 1: fire looking to beach questions. Did you really live in
Speaker 1: the good of each yes? Um? How did you get
Speaker 1: sought out? Um? They My name came up in some
Speaker 1: stories I think between the girls, which they got they
Speaker 1: were talking to Christien and her group of friends and
Speaker 1: Lauren her group of friends. Who are you friends with first,
Speaker 1: Kristen or Lauren? Kristen didn't come to they going to
Speaker 1: beach until we are freshman in high school. And I've
Speaker 1: known Lawrence since I was six years old. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: so you guys really worry childhood friends? Okay, are you
Speaker 1: guys still friends? Yeah? That's cool. That was very not
Speaker 1: what Yeah, that was that was genuine And we just
Speaker 1: found a video to Kristen together. Yeah, as we're both
Speaker 1: still friends with Kristen. Yeah, I wish, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: wish I had more drama for you, but we actually
Speaker 1: and I just like to know it we matured a
Speaker 1: little bit from from seventeen years old and what was
Speaker 1: occurring on on that show back then. So you actually
Speaker 1: work at it, wasn't it a surf shop? I did.
Speaker 1: They're They're gonna beach, surf and sport. This makes me
Speaker 1: st what I really did just have to watch the
Speaker 1: whole season because we had a podcast based off The
Speaker 1: Hills reboot, and so I had to rewatch everything entering
Speaker 1: into that. So that's why everything is actually pretty fresh
Speaker 1: in my brain, which I'm actually really appreciative of that.
Speaker 1: I remember you worked at a surf shop. Um, did
Speaker 1: you ever reconsider going on the reboot? Uh? Or considered
Speaker 1: the thought? Um, well, MTVS has asked me, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I still don't know. I think that first season of
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach was was of reality television for a couple
Speaker 1: of lifetimes. And I did the second season a little
Speaker 1: bit something go on the Hills for a bit, I
Speaker 1: did one episode. I did one episode of the Hills. Um.
Speaker 1: They you know, they've asked me a bunch over the years,
Speaker 1: and I was obviously getting a scripted stuff, and so
Speaker 1: there was an opportunity where once they realized I was
Speaker 1: I was obviously more concerned about doing scripted, they paired
Speaker 1: a development deal like which is something you call in
Speaker 1: the industry where you can get six months to a
Speaker 1: year where a company, say you know or network will
Speaker 1: lock you in exclusively to just do scripted stuff with them. So, um,
Speaker 1: they did that, and I was bringing them all these
Speaker 1: different projects, and of course they were just like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: we're good, We're good. It was right when MTV was
Speaker 1: getting its scripted But what I later figured out is
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they didn't care about the development deal
Speaker 1: with me. They were just willing to do say oh hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you this as well, and come do
Speaker 1: the hills, and so we did one episode. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know it's fine. If there's one movie, you could
Speaker 1: do one character one movie, what would it be? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, we just played this game last time, and
Speaker 1: I mine was like a pride and prejudice kind of here.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well I wanted to be a superhero. It
Speaker 1: is a loaded question, but I was just, um, I
Speaker 1: was just watching a uh some sort of preview on
Speaker 1: Maverick and Miles Teller was talking about, you know, working
Speaker 1: a top gun and just working with Tom Cruise and
Speaker 1: now there the whole lead up to shooting the movie
Speaker 1: and shooting the movie. And I think, like, as a
Speaker 1: thirty four year old guy, or any any guy that's
Speaker 1: between the age of like thirty and and sixty, I
Speaker 1: think being a top gun or seeing that movie was
Speaker 1: somewhere that's like close to their hearts. So I just
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, that would be something that would
Speaker 1: be awesome. I could see that. I lost. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then Chase, obviously I played. My character was in the
Speaker 1: Air Force it's something that you know, Mark Schwant kind
Speaker 1: of caught wind that I said, always said, like planned
Speaker 1: c was to be in the military, and my grandpa
Speaker 1: was in the military, and so I think he once
Speaker 1: he caught wind of that, it was implemented in this show.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, is that any regrets not going
Speaker 1: into that or maybe we're good? Yeah? Alright, so plan
Speaker 1: and be you're fine. Oh yeah, here's James so excited
Speaker 1: because James Lafferty is also on the wine. Do you
Speaker 1: know how long I've wanted both of you guys on
Speaker 1: We're happy to be for Yeah, for sure, and you
Speaker 1: came on you you helped us with our campaign when
Speaker 1: we're doing the campaign for you. Yeah. For everyone's doing great.
Speaker 1: Can you We just like whose idea was that? Who
Speaker 1: started it off? Started with James? Yeah, I had the
Speaker 1: initial idea, but um really quickly I brought it to
Speaker 1: Stephen I think probably the day after it's just sort
Speaker 1: of entered my head because, um, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that we could both sort of bring ourselves
Speaker 1: to the thing because it's it's rooted in it's rooted
Speaker 1: in our reality kind of um. And so we both
Speaker 1: developed those UM the characters and then the story from
Speaker 1: from that point on. So yeah, and then you guys
Speaker 1: did a full episode. Where where did the actual episodes air?
Speaker 1: Was it on? Because you we did the I remember
Speaker 1: we went to your house and we got the money
Speaker 1: for you know, to help raise money for filming season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did you guys put that out? So that was
Speaker 1: for just doing the campaign in the beginning, and that
Speaker 1: was about That was a year almost, It was a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago now. And so then once
Speaker 1: we got all the money to shoot the show, we
Speaker 1: started shooting at the end of two thousand eighteen, and
Speaker 1: then we were cutting it and we worked a small team.
Speaker 1: James and I are the editors on the thing, and
Speaker 1: so we we've been editing all of two thousand nineteen. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then you know, trying to get out there and
Speaker 1: find like a home for it, and then also just
Speaker 1: working on um some of our final stages of post production,
Speaker 1: just getting all the music in there. We're actually working
Speaker 1: with Michael Grubs who's doing the score for us, him
Speaker 1: and his partner from something Cheap since something he's working
Speaker 1: on now. The fans working the fans watch it right
Speaker 1: now and it's not out yet so we have. That's
Speaker 1: what we're doing is putting the finishing touches on the
Speaker 1: first season, which is going to be eight episodes. UM.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's taken so long because when you
Speaker 1: normally would have you know, a team of editors rotating
Speaker 1: in like you know, of sharing the episodes, it's just
Speaker 1: us to working on the whole thing. Um. So basically
Speaker 1: we're aiming to have the show released um April or May,
Speaker 1: and we don't have, um, we don't have, Like we
Speaker 1: think we've narrowed down some options where I think we're
Speaker 1: going to release it so to be rented or to
Speaker 1: be bought um at first and then hopefully a subscription
Speaker 1: service later. But um, we're still sort of deciding which
Speaker 1: platform it's going to be on and what's the concept.
Speaker 1: Just like the quick elevator pitch of the show, like
Speaker 1: our listeners have an idea of what to look out
Speaker 1: for you're on Uh basically, I mean you're gonna meet
Speaker 1: two guys that are in their thirties. It's like five
Speaker 1: six years after they were huge, like teen heart Throbs.
Speaker 1: They're on a vampire show. It's kind of like Vampire
Speaker 1: Diaries or a teen Wolf or something like that, and
Speaker 1: they're the biggest stars and you're seeing them years later
Speaker 1: having to kind of well just where they're at in
Speaker 1: their real lives and and and after you know, having
Speaker 1: a lot of things come easy to them young. When
Speaker 1: they're younger, they're kind of realizing it that that you know,
Speaker 1: it's not as life's not as easy as they might
Speaker 1: have thought. And you're seeing them go through their struggles.
Speaker 1: They're at a crossroads, and so they're kind of leaning
Speaker 1: on each other when they shouldn't be because they both
Speaker 1: have a lot of to work out. And so you're
Speaker 1: seeing them in their trials and tribulations and kind of
Speaker 1: how they're reacting to their reality. And you're kind of
Speaker 1: playing with this perception versus reality as far as people
Speaker 1: that are seen as like, you know, big stars are
Speaker 1: very successful, but when they're at home and they're by themselves,
Speaker 1: what that looks like, what's more down earth kind of
Speaker 1: grounded in real life? What these people are going through.
Speaker 1: And most importantly, you're laughing at them because it's a comedy.
Speaker 1: And have you guys been able to pull from your
Speaker 1: experience I'm assuming a little bit being you know that
Speaker 1: have been young heart throbs in your careers to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is something happened to me that how can we
Speaker 1: kind of make a spoof of this or make it
Speaker 1: funny and entertaining. Yeah, that's what brought us to the
Speaker 1: idea was we um, you know, after one Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: I think you think, um that you you you think
Speaker 1: that it's going to be an easy ride. You know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your next acting gig right away. It's
Speaker 1: all going to be um sort of downhill from there.
Speaker 1: And for for I mean for us, it was sort
Speaker 1: of the opposite, you know, we had we've sort of
Speaker 1: faced like a lot of adversity in terms of getting
Speaker 1: that next job. Why do you think that is? Because
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't get that it's you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a combination of things. I think
Speaker 1: there there is a little bit of you know, people
Speaker 1: don't necessarily like when somebody starts their own show, they
Speaker 1: really want it to be their own concepts, right. They
Speaker 1: want to build their own world, and they want to
Speaker 1: build it fresh. And I think when you've played a
Speaker 1: character on a show for so long, you may be
Speaker 1: too deeply rooted in that, you know, in that image
Speaker 1: for them to be able to see you in their thing.
Speaker 1: Also a lot of it might just I mean, for
Speaker 1: me personally, it was how prepared I was for to
Speaker 1: take that next step, and I wasn't very prepared I
Speaker 1: was going in there and the auditioning working is another
Speaker 1: beast than acting on set, and you have to go
Speaker 1: through that. You have to master that to to get
Speaker 1: the opportunity to jump on set and make film and television.
Speaker 1: And so that's you know, a cult are shocking away
Speaker 1: coming back after for eight months in a row. You're
Speaker 1: shooting a show and then you're dropped into l a
Speaker 1: and you can walk into that first room and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, I'm coming off the show. And
Speaker 1: then just the littlest thing, can can you know? You
Speaker 1: can who you're reading with, Like you might be reading
Speaker 1: with your your wife, and it's like some dude that's
Speaker 1: just you know, reading off a page in front of you,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of trips you up. You're not
Speaker 1: used to it, and all of a sudden you fall
Speaker 1: in your face and then you walk out of there
Speaker 1: and that confidence meter just like drops and it keeps
Speaker 1: dropping because they're like, oh god, so can I ask
Speaker 1: a question for you guys though too on that just
Speaker 1: real sidebar with the auditioning. Um, I have a I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of things have obviously moved to
Speaker 1: on tape. I don't. I've never one like on tape.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible on tape. I feel like being in the
Speaker 1: room is like the only way that I've been able
Speaker 1: to actually work. And because I'm I'm nice and I'm
Speaker 1: friendly and I'm chatty, so it's like, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's where people see my personality and on tape it doesn't.
Speaker 1: So I mean, do you guys go on tape a
Speaker 1: lot and like, what's the biggest tip for winning on
Speaker 1: a tape? Because I think that's where I struggle like
Speaker 1: the worst. I feel like, I mean, for me, going
Speaker 1: on tape, it affords you the opportunity to to work
Speaker 1: many times through something with somebody, hopefully he's a patient reader.
Speaker 1: Um as as I put James through and we've got
Speaker 1: Rob Buck and Mike's always I always feel bad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And then I
Speaker 1: find myself given Jana tips I've never actually da in
Speaker 1: my life. I'm like, honey, what do you need to
Speaker 1: do right here to make you become a director. So
Speaker 1: I think that that that's good, even though, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can work yourself into a frenzy and probably those first
Speaker 1: couple of takes are gonna be the best ones. But
Speaker 1: you're right, there is something to be said about walking
Speaker 1: into the room, carrying that character kind of in the room,
Speaker 1: having an engagement with the people, and then also having
Speaker 1: them give you direction right away, and then on that
Speaker 1: second take you can turn and take it and if
Speaker 1: they see you take that direction, then that's going to
Speaker 1: be good for the process, like, oh, we can work
Speaker 1: it with this person. So there's pros and cons, you know, Rob,
Speaker 1: But you got anything, Rob. Welcome Rob Buckley Part two.
Speaker 1: By the way. First of all, by the way, East,
Speaker 1: can your headphone? You can put a shirt on? I'm
Speaker 1: over here quiet. I feel like the fourth Jonas brother.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the last guy in the world you're supposed
Speaker 1: to borrow the headphones from? Probably that was that was
Speaker 1: the most diva acter thing ever. Can I can I
Speaker 1: borrow the cameraman's glasses because it's about me. I've never
Speaker 1: booked a job office self tape. I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: just feel like I do better in the room. And
Speaker 1: I haven't done enough tape yet. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: It's there's a luxury in knowing I don't have to
Speaker 1: be on If it takes me thirty takes, that's fine, um,
Speaker 1: which you can also bleed into like a seven hour taping,
Speaker 1: you know, but there's something to be said for I
Speaker 1: like the finality of a deadline, you know, so I
Speaker 1: just go in the room. And also it's kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing, like personality does help you get the
Speaker 1: job sometimes, so if you go in and you're warm,
Speaker 1: or you just kind of riff with them and you
Speaker 1: hit it off. Yeah, you know, I know. I just
Speaker 1: felt like everything when I was living in l A.
Speaker 1: It was just like just put on tape and it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know, it becomes frustrating. Then when you
Speaker 1: do get the opportunity to get in the room I got,
Speaker 1: I just get so nervous. I'm just terrible auditioning this
Speaker 1: past season. I hadn't audition to a one like my
Speaker 1: first one out when I went out for I way over,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't just prepare myself for like be calm,
Speaker 1: be cool. Instead I came in and was like super anxious,
Speaker 1: and excited and like my people pleasing came out, So
Speaker 1: there was like half a second of silence. It's like
Speaker 1: me and eight people and they just all were looking
Speaker 1: at me, and I was like, so, what's up? Great script?
Speaker 1: Do you guys like avocado toast? Like the four things
Speaker 1: came out and I caught myself. I was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? You shut your mouth? So yeah, the
Speaker 1: nerves are real, Like I like the takeaway from audition.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even about the performance. It was like broke dude,
Speaker 1: dial it in, like walk in, do your job, thank
Speaker 1: them for their time. But like you know, I was
Speaker 1: nervous and I haven't I have a horror story. I've
Speaker 1: spoken about this a couple of times. But there was
Speaker 1: one audition, um I think it was it was the
Speaker 1: show doesn't matter. Actually I wish I remembered the show
Speaker 1: so I can call him out right now. But it was, uh,
Speaker 1: something I was excited about, you know. And I showed
Speaker 1: up and I'm waiting next up. So they moved me
Speaker 1: in a room closer to the room that you're going
Speaker 1: into next. And then the guy comes out and then
Speaker 1: I hear inside the room like, oh, who do we got? Who?
Speaker 1: Do we got next, Like we got Stephen Clartie, Stephen
Speaker 1: Clartie work on One Tree Hill and then they go, oh,
Speaker 1: another one of those One Tree Hill horrors. Huh what?
Speaker 1: Right before I'm about to walk in the room, and
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, what do I do here?
Speaker 1: I wanted to walk in there and and just say
Speaker 1: something and turn around walk out. But I went in
Speaker 1: and did my job and left. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: like I've been kicking myself ever since, like I should
Speaker 1: have said something and just been like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. But you know, you were a professional.
Speaker 1: So my my wife Jenny, she kept a acting journal
Speaker 1: of every audition she went on, and so she she
Speaker 1: dug it up recently and she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I went out for the pilot of One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: It was like, no way, and she's like it might
Speaker 1: be in my journal and no. She digs up her
Speaker 1: journal and she's like, yeah, I think she. I think
Speaker 1: she read for Like Joys. And then they were like, no,
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't called her characters name at the time,
Speaker 1: and then Sous character wasn't brooked yet. But it was
Speaker 1: like like, I think we should come back to be
Speaker 1: a cheer. But basically, like in the shuffle of her
Speaker 1: being the casting office, she overheard the casting director talking
Speaker 1: on the phone, I'm presuming to an agent. Jenny wrote
Speaker 1: down the quote and it was basically, Um, look, I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for Meryl Streep. This is a c W show.
Speaker 1: They just need to be able to chew gum and
Speaker 1: walk at the same time. This is gold part of
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. It was I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was the casting director of the
Speaker 1: original cast matter of our show, A woman whoever was
Speaker 1: That's what she said, just like I don't need a
Speaker 1: Meryal Streep, I just need someone who can chew gum
Speaker 1: and walk. It well, now I know the part you
Speaker 1: and Nathan did it so well. I want to ask
Speaker 1: me the question what everyone's doing great? Um? What what?
Speaker 1: What platform do you guys wanted to be on? Like,
Speaker 1: if you have your dream, is it Hulu? Netflix? Like
Speaker 1: do you want to what do you want? We have
Speaker 1: episodes ranging from twenty four minutes to thirty seven minutes. Uh,
Speaker 1: it would not fit on traditional TV, so I think
Speaker 1: we we we've always kind of had the idea would
Speaker 1: go on a streaming service. I think something like Hulu
Speaker 1: or Netflix would would be ideal, or Amazon of course.
Speaker 1: And then regardless of like let's just say I believe
Speaker 1: Hulu or Netflix absolutely, but will you put it out
Speaker 1: somewhere else? Like what other streaming service could you do
Speaker 1: just to get it, just to get the fans excited
Speaker 1: to watch it, because you two are gold together, So
Speaker 1: I don't I think if it's out there, then people
Speaker 1: are going to A network is gonna then obviously open
Speaker 1: their eyes and be like wow, or a streaming service.
Speaker 1: What we're kind of doing right now is courting like
Speaker 1: the independent film distribution model, where you can sort of
Speaker 1: put something out like d I Y distribution for rental
Speaker 1: um or have people buy it and then you know,
Speaker 1: if it does well through through sort of you know,
Speaker 1: that way of distribution, then you can then have you know,
Speaker 1: a streaming service come to you to license it for
Speaker 1: their subscription service. Um, you know the other season hopefully. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We kind of produced this thing knowing that, like independent
Speaker 1: television was something that might not be hitting quite yet,
Speaker 1: like it maybe as big as independent film is someday,
Speaker 1: but it really isn't quite there yet. So the we
Speaker 1: went about it in an experimental way. And you know
Speaker 1: it may come down to us having to distribute it
Speaker 1: in sort of an experimental way. Um, and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully get that licensing deal, but you know, a sort
Speaker 1: of rental or you know, buying option first. Um, that
Speaker 1: might be what we're presented with. YEA follow up question, Um,
Speaker 1: you know this one, This one kind of comes I
Speaker 1: think both from didn't it? Uh No, that's actually it's
Speaker 1: funny because it's what my questions about. I thought, I
Speaker 1: because I was just like I had kind of been
Speaker 1: like I'd love to be in it. Never got a call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so on behalf of Jane and I guess my question is, Um,
Speaker 1: where do you get off not hiring either of the
Speaker 1: fact that you asked for thousand an episode, knowing very
Speaker 1: well that we raised money on Indiego Go. You said, well,
Speaker 1: this is my quote. You either get me or you don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where this conversation stomped. Do you
Speaker 1: know how many dozen of fans I would bring to
Speaker 1: your show? You blew it? You dummies. Buckley just coming
Speaker 1: in sour, I'm open for a season two. I'm like
Speaker 1: trying to like, I'm okay, I know a producer that
Speaker 1: could maybe get your show on a streaming service. And
Speaker 1: I'm already I'm already trying to play. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'd like produce a credit and an actor in it.
Speaker 1: So I'm already like I've already had side conversations with Stephen,
Speaker 1: like I want to hustle to get on this. Everyone's
Speaker 1: doing great. See, I've been just way less a depth,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, what you should have
Speaker 1: in this is another white guy who's like decent at
Speaker 1: comedy but not really that good. Your plan is better. Wait,
Speaker 1: was the profound thing you wanted to say? Okay, I
Speaker 1: have three things. The first one, this is just this
Speaker 1: is some wisdom or a secret, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. Okay, this is a little gift for me
Speaker 1: to your listeners. Okay. The first one is moisturize your neck.
Speaker 1: This is something people aren't going to tell you. Cosmo
Speaker 1: is not going to tell you this. Okay. People say,
Speaker 1: moisturize your face. That's great, but you know what happens.
Speaker 1: You don't moisturize your neck, and then you're fifty with
Speaker 1: a seventy year old neck. So guys, don't stop at
Speaker 1: the chin. Take it all the way down to the
Speaker 1: collar bone. Yeah, ladies, get your chest to take it
Speaker 1: down to the collar. Yeah. No, you're actually right. The
Speaker 1: second one Okay, I'm not going to give you the third.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the third, James, so
Speaker 1: stop asking. The second one is the secret ingredient is
Speaker 1: always butter. True because when I make mac and cheese
Speaker 1: for the kids and I don't put the butt the
Speaker 1: two table suits of butter in, it just asn't tastes good.
Speaker 1: It's watery. The consistency isn't there. Yeah, when you're talking
Speaker 1: about for food, right, always when you go to the restaurant,
Speaker 1: you're like, why is this chicken pocato is so much
Speaker 1: better than mine? Well, there's a half stick of butter
Speaker 1: more in there's That's why you dumbed our report. Please
Speaker 1: tell me the third one because I will not be
Speaker 1: able to sleep. Why invite me back on your podcast?
Speaker 1: You've already been one twice in the last hour. Have
Speaker 1: you ever had a guest come on three times in
Speaker 1: one day? And congrats to me? Listen, listen for what
Speaker 1: I'm lacking in appearances on everyone's doing great. I'm making
Speaker 1: up foreign appearances on your body twice, so you're already
Speaker 1: breaking records here. I know, you're amazing. Where can everyone,
Speaker 1: um follow, like, um, everyone is doing great on Instagram
Speaker 1: is definitely a good one, Okay, and then yeah that's
Speaker 1: probably the main one. I mean, you can we have
Speaker 1: a page on Facebook. Um at d G t V
Speaker 1: show on Twitter, Okay, follow the guys because they're they're
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great show. I already know it
Speaker 1: is because they're they're awesome, So we should yeah, come on, Well,
Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the preview from from
Speaker 1: Facebook at one time, and we should say also like
Speaker 1: thanks again to you guys for um for helping us out,
Speaker 1: you know, through the campaign, and I mean it, I
Speaker 1: think being here at this convention, it's an appropriate time
Speaker 1: to like just say that you guys, all the whole
Speaker 1: cast like really showed up for us and gave their
Speaker 1: time and um, and our campaign was not doing that
Speaker 1: well up until those you know, live watches that we
Speaker 1: did with you guys. And after that sort of run
Speaker 1: of live watches that we did, it was a whole
Speaker 1: different ballgame. It was like it made it made us
Speaker 1: a failure of a campaign from a failure of a
Speaker 1: campaign into like, oh my god, we can actually make
Speaker 1: us a success. So it's really really cool those guys
Speaker 1: that everyone is doing great. Everyone is doing great. And
Speaker 1: Rob Buckley you can see probably next week on one
Speaker 1: and Down if you want to follow question my bi
Speaker 1: monthly segments. Hown't we been married for sixteen years? It'll
Speaker 1: be sixteen years, fourteen years from April eleven. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: really like it, it'll be two years, two years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do that math in your head. I did drop some
Speaker 1: toothpicks on the ground. I'll tell you how many it is.
Speaker 1: What's what's what's been the best part of marriage for y'all? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: we we play. I talk a lot. Yeah, we but
Speaker 1: we we play a lot. Like it's it is just
Speaker 1: a lot of silliness. Like I feel like I have gotten, uh,
Speaker 1: exponentially funnier. Yeah, so that that's definitely it. Like you know,
Speaker 1: they say, like, oh, your best friend, and to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, even going into marriage, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm marrying a cool friend. But that's all good. I
Speaker 1: have best friends. It's okay. She doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: all that. And I was just sitting there, damn, like, no, man,
Speaker 1: you don't spend this much time with someone and not
Speaker 1: want to punch him in the throat, Like this is
Speaker 1: my best friend. You never want to punch her in
Speaker 1: the throp like occasion. I mean never, And it's just
Speaker 1: like it's been playing. That's what it is, because you
Speaker 1: know it is like there's tough you know, like there's
Speaker 1: hard times, there's all the times. But like if you
Speaker 1: can laugh, may make each other laugh, it's the best.
Speaker 1: Like we I do dumb bits all the time. And
Speaker 1: she we have a bit where she like she playfully
Speaker 1: smacks me in the face and guys, here, please please,
Speaker 1: I'm not quivering, I'm not shaking. Please hear me when
Speaker 1: I say playfully smacks me in the face. But honest
Speaker 1: to God, like I love it. It's like if I
Speaker 1: go away to work or something, it's been like four
Speaker 1: days and I haven't got slapped in my face a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm like, I really, I really missed that
Speaker 1: playful slap because I kind of need someone to be
Speaker 1: like quiet, shut up. That was dumb. Oh wow, what
Speaker 1: a takeaway. I mean we usually have like some kind
Speaker 1: of relationship takeaway um on the show, So maybe that's
Speaker 1: a just slap a little Here's another one. Though here's
Speaker 1: another one. This isn't one of my three secrets, but
Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's almost and a half ready.
Speaker 1: For those of you who aren't married yet, this is
Speaker 1: my tip find someone who looks good in sweatpants, because
Speaker 1: it has been my experience that marriage is sweatpants for real. Though, right, guys, well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. I'm in yoga pants, sweatpants. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm changing right before we leave for this flight into
Speaker 1: my yoga pants. So of the time, I'm in yoga pants.
Speaker 1: And Michael, what did you say were two outfits every day?
Speaker 1: I was like, I asked you, and I said, do
Speaker 1: you ever get tired of me wearing the same thing?
Speaker 1: And was like, well, I wear the same thing. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, you were the same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I wear physically, the same jackets or the same sweatshirt,
Speaker 1: or the same genes or the same shoes every other day,
Speaker 1: and you're always in like your athlete, like the same
Speaker 1: shorts or at home in the same sort pants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're guys. Were easy, but especially once you're married and
Speaker 1: you're not trying to impresident when you're like, no, I
Speaker 1: got my gray shirt in my red shirt. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm fine until next Christmas. Yeah, no specific just purple drink.
Speaker 1: You know that whole drink. Oh my god, I love that. Okay,
Speaker 1: slaps and sweatpants, um, I like it. Well, guys, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I really appreciate it. I love you guys.
Speaker 1: This has been it's like Summer Camp Reunion. Probably going
Speaker 1: to be our best episode yet ever, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: blow everything. Okay, I love you guys. Everyone's doing great.
Speaker 1: Everyone's doing great.