1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Coughlin and podcast. Okay, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: so last week we promised you guys, we'll not promise 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: what we said. We might have a special extra episode 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: of One Tree Hill on Wine Down, and so that's 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We are at the Convention Center 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: right now and another room, but actually at the Convention Center, 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: and um, you know, we figured we'd be able to 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: give you to um two awesome shows with some you know, 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: some of the awesome casts that are here. And UM, 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who's going to pop into be completely 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: honest with you guys, UM, but I know some you 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: know obviously Rob's here, Um Buckley, Leonorris is here, Um, 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: David Bloody, James Lafferty. So yeah, I'm I'm just I 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: kind of keep going in another room being like, does 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: anybody want to be on wind Down? So hopefully we'll 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: be able to get some some good folks in here 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: for you. UM, so stay tuned, but first let's take 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: a break. So excited Robert Buckley is sitting down with UZZI. 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, so Rob, we were part of the new 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: the new group, the new clan that came in you 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: me and chantell um. Was it hard for you to 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: come in with the expectation of kind of a new 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: show and with Chad and everyone leaving? Or yes, how 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: was it for you? Yes, because I hadn't seen a 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: single episode of the show before I auditioned to you, 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and then I think, like, once it got close to 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: the end of getting the job, I think I educated 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: myself and I watched a couple episodes, but it really 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: wasn't until after I got the job that I properly 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: did my homework and then actually learned about the show 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: like in the following, the fan following, and realized like, oh, 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: this is a very big deal to a lot of people. 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: And then the simple math of of I thought you 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: had been I forgot that you came in there because 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: three came at the same you guys came. I think 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: you were a week earlier than I than I shot. 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, us three were the new cast. Yeah, I 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: just remember my brain went okay, um, two things left 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: and two things entered. So if this goes off the 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: rails in any way this season, I'm at least fift 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: to blame. So yeah, I was terrified of you. Don't also, 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: like you know, ited with like, I didn't want to 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: be the jar Jar Banks of One Tree Hill. I 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to show up and have fans be like 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: especially I'm like phone in Chad's footsteps, right, like he's 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: not Chat but like, but you weren't trying to replace Chad, 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: but in a way, you had the expectation of replacing 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: like the good looking dude and yeah, and just was like, Okay, 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope they like this guy, and yeah. 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what was what was your first impression, like 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: when you started watching the show? Did you have any 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: big takeaways? I think for me because I mean, honestly, 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: he never seen an episode either, and so I was like, well, 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't started. I probably watched a few episodes before. 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the entire things. There's so many episodes, 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: but I watched a few of the final seasons, um, 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: just a few episodes just to see. But I was 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: worried because you know, I with with Sophia and Joy 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: is just you know, big, big characters, big personalities. I 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: was kind of worried coming in. But I mean I 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: feel like it, you know, it was good. It was 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: just I think it's hard to come in on the 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: show when you're at the very end and everyone's already 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: formed their connections, so you're kind of just like, wait, okay, wait, 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: who doesn't let you know? It's like, okay, you're trying 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Um. So it's convenient that we 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: have robbed On first because I, like James said, I've 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: never seen an episode so on the plane here, I 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I need to see what my 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: wife's all about on the show. And it was season 71 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: seven that came on, so I'm seeing both of you 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: guys are like my first impression of One Tree Hill 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: right here? Was the scene was was? Was she licked 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: the side of my face at the bar? That was 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: one of them? She know she uh she? You took 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: a shot, she ate a line and and kissed you 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: and then walked away kissed. I didn't remembers do we 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: make out? No, you didn't make out that he took 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: a shot and you kissed his lips to get the 80 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: alcohol from his mouth. I just remember, didn't you like 81 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: lick my face or remember looking part of your body? 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember what? Sorry, I mean, let's dive in 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: racy times. What was the your favorite scene you ever filmed? 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: There was a scene in either season eight or nine 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: where we're in the hospital. Someone's in the hospital, so 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: it's myself, Chantelle Sofa and I think Jackson and there's 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: a saltine cracker eating contest. It's a real thing. It's like, 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: it's the Saltine Challenger ting six trackers in a minute. 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: And I'm competitive and just in real life anyways, but 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: especially when you bring food into it, that really ups 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: anty for me. The stakes get high, so I was like, 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I liked Johnte was like, let's I'm gonna go for this. 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Let's do this, Let's do it on camera. So every 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: take was me. That wasn't acting. That was me for 95 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: real trying to get six down and it's hard. It's 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: like number one, you're like, this is going to be 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: so easy, and two you're like, crackers are delicious, and 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: three you're like getting kind of dry, and by four 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: you're like, this is a this is a fool's errand terrify. Well. 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I love you. I know you have to go, but 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping and just saying, hey, anything you want 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: to you know, promote, swipe up anything on the for 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: the listeners. Next time you have me back on I'm 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna say that really profound thing, and I'm gonna tell 105 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: you all about my new pyramid scheme I'm working on. Perfect. Really, 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: I feel like it would be perfect for you guys 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and all of your listeners. Well, if you have another 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: second when you come back, let me let us now. 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: It's to a trilogy today. Okay, Oh that'd be fine, one, two, 110 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: and three, Okay, okay, go sign. Hey guys are reporting? 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm always on, it doesn't matter. Always prepared. 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: A child actor, I came out of the womb right now. No, 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, well, let's start with that. When did how 114 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: old were you when you started acting? I did my 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: first show, The Torchal Sins when I was nine. Yeah, 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it was nine years old. Any Um, how did your 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: parents know first of all that or did you say 118 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to get Yeah, so I used to watch 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: The Cosby Show, um, back before we found out all 120 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: the things that were happening. Um. But when I was little, 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: that was like, you know, all the kids are on 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: that show, and I was like, I want to do that. 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: My parents were like you do, and they're like, but 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: you live in North Carolina. That could be a problem. 125 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: So I just did like children's theater was like the 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: only thing, you know, they could get me involved in. 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: But I loved it. And um, then when I got 128 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: a little older, I had a crush on this girl 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: who was doing a play and she told me about 130 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: an agent that lived nearby, and so I was like 131 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing like connections, Yeah, whatever, let's do it. 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Mom dropped me off exactly. UM. So I kind of 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: dragged them into it. It wasn't the other way around, 134 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: which I'm super happy about because you see, you know 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: all those kid actors whose parents like kind of steered them. 136 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: So do you have any regrets um doing that as 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: a young age or um. I mean, you know, it's 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: like anything else, there's things that were awesome about it. 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean you've been working your whole life. Yeah yeah, 140 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: and like you know, to look back on the people 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: that I like, I I met. Um we were airing 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: the same time as the Golden Girls were, so Patty 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: White was like my grandma for like a day, you 144 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was like really cool things 145 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: that you know as a kid, You're just like this 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: isn't incredible, But then you know you miss out on 147 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: some things too. Um and obviously just getting used to 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, being people knowing you as a kid is 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: something to process. Um, But you know, I just looked 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: out because I had great parents that sort of we're like, 151 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: don't let this go to your head or whatever, and 152 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: they put every time I wasn't working, I went back 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: to public school, and so any kind of ego or 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: whatever it was immediately, Yeah, because then I'm back in 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: public school, and I'm sure than everybody else it's like exactly, 156 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: so you know it worked out. How was that transition 157 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: when whether it's public school. You and I were talking about, 158 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: like you went to Wake four college, Like, how was 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: that handling that when you're back into that just everyday 160 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: life knowing what you've done or people recognizing you for 161 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: what you've done. Yeah, No, I mean I think it 162 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: was just when I went back, I knew that I 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get away with anything because my friends who knew 164 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: me before I ever did any TV, were just like 165 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: if I changed at all, they would have just been 166 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: like who are you? You know, so it just kind of, um, 167 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't too bad. And you know that's a great 168 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: thing too about school is it's kind of an equalizer, 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, you still got to study for that test, 170 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: you gotta do whatever. And so it's just like a 171 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: you know, a normal kid. So I'm really lucky that 172 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I kind of got to like work as a kid 173 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: but also have school and kind of you know, I 174 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: wasn't just like plopped in a star trailer for most 175 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: of my childhood. And now you're a parent and now 176 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: I mean, so now, I mean does is work? Um? 177 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: Because for me, like when I had kids, I was like, 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: oh wow, my purpose is completely changed. Yes, for sure. 179 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: And I wake up and I'm like, okay, like I'm 180 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: doing this form. I have to support the family. And 181 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: what has it been for you? Having um? Having a 182 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: new baby? Now, it's just I mean, you know, it 183 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: changes you in a way that you're not You always 184 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: hear people say that, right that our parents, but you know, 185 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: until it happens to you, like you just don't know. 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: But I think for me, it's just given me so 187 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: much more purpose I think is the best word, you know. 188 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: And it's like if I don't as you know, in 189 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: this industry, it's like sometimes I feel like I'm chasing purpose. 190 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: It's like if I'm not working, like what am I 191 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: what's my next gig, what's my next job? Exactly? Yeah. 192 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: But then when you are a parent, you're that you know, 193 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that thing becomes your being and what everything is about, 194 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: So it doesn't it's not about you anymore, you know. 195 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: In a way that's kind of freeing for me and 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: great because I love him so much and I'm excited 197 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: to just take care of him and um, you know, 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: obviously you want to provide for them and make sure 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: they're you know, taken care of. Um, so that comes 200 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: into play. But it's just been kind of kind of 201 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a peaceful thing in a lot of ways. That does 202 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: have to be fulfilling, um, you know, coming from like 203 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: y'all's industry and always getting the door shut in your 204 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: face until you finally find that one that opens. Right 205 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: to now have a child where you are the most 206 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: important person in their life every single day, like you're 207 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: good enough every day right to have that feeling. And 208 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: so how is it for you, guys, Janna Anley, to 209 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: be back like with this cast right where all these 210 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: people who like watched you and they probably still look 211 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: at you as these young characters in high school and 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: going through what they've gone through. Do you, guys still 213 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: look at each other a little bit in that way 214 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: to be like, man, Lee actually has a kid, Man 215 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Janna has two kids. Man, you know Chad has kids. 216 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: I love that we all have kids now. It's so fun, 217 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Like how is that is? It is part of you 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of still look at each other through that lens. Well, 219 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't in so like he grew up. 220 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,359 Speaker 1: He's obviously on the show from like day one, so, um, 221 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: you know I wasn't in the high school days. I came, Hi, 222 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm your wife, and I came to me that you no, no, 223 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: I understand. Um. I think it's just cool again to 224 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: be here, like knowing that you have a kid and 225 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: and Brett's and they're like, I've known Brett even though 226 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: we were on the same season, but like he's got 227 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: a kid now, and I think it's you know, again, 228 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know Hillary, but I think it's everyone's just 229 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: kind of grown up and you know, it's crazy. Um, 230 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: And I think I could speak on this too, But 231 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: like Sean Tell and I weren't really close when we 232 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: were filming, but now we're we're so close because it's 233 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: just one of those things where you grow up and 234 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: you learn and you learn more about yourself and you're 235 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: like the twenty year old version of me. I don't 236 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: know if I would have been friends with you, know, 237 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, when you kind of grew 238 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: up and you start to really respect people's evolution, and 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: I think you've become I don't know, like it's just 240 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: it's even more of a um kism a thing that 241 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the word is anyways, it's more of just the I 242 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: don't know, it just it feels. It feels good for sure, 243 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: from me at least, I love it. I think it's great. 244 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: I think and we're we're always going to have this 245 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: like shared experience right of that time um and so 246 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: I think it's whenever, like this is the first time 247 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: I've seen you since we've finished or whatever, and so 248 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: it's like and I like, we had so much fun 249 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: together and now I feel like we're picking up where 250 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: we left off. But also we're like these matured people 251 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: who have kids, and we have things that we can 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: bond overright now that we didn't then, and that's great 253 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: and like we'll always have that. And like I'm you know, 254 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: even though things have come out about our show that 255 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: obviously weren't great at the time to shore, and so 256 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: there's all this kind of backstory. But we went through 257 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: that period together, we survived it, and I think we'll 258 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, always be tied to that. For sure. Absolutely, 259 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: I kind of hate that it kind of went down 260 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: on that note though. I didn't like, you know, it's 261 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: just that's kind of bumped me up. But I don't 262 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: want to get too into that. But have you talked 263 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: to Millie? You know, we text occasionally. She's got two 264 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: kids and a couple of kids, and she's awesome. But 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I haven't seen her in a while, and I'd love 266 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: to because she's she's she's such a good person and 267 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: an actress and uh, she's a great mom. I know. 268 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: So did you think the show was going to be 269 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: what it was? No? Definitely not no, because you know, 270 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: and that was, you know, coming I was in the 271 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: pilot from the very beginning, and we as I'm sure 272 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: you've probably heard, I thought we were going to get 273 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: canceled a lot of times, and we just kept sort 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: of hanging on by the wire, and um, you know, 275 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: credit to our creative team. They kept They really took 276 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: advantage of social media, which was coming on at the time. 277 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, Facebook and all of that work sort of 278 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: taking off, and um, they really utilized it and smart 279 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: things like the musical tie ins and all of that, 280 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: so they kind of found ways to market it and 281 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: keep us coming back. But no, I mean, by I 282 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: was telling Michael this yesterday, ended up taking ten years 283 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: of ten years of my life. And when I first 284 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: got on the show, I thought I was in college, 285 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and I thought I was going to go to law 286 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: school and become a lawyer. And we're definitely not a lawyer. No, 287 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not. And I'm so glad that I didn't 288 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: end up doing that. Um, but you know, I had 289 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: no I was like, well, I book this show, and 290 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: I was like, we'll see what happens, because you know, 291 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: you never know if a show is gonna go or 292 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be caned, and so I was like, well, 293 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: who knows what will happen. And then ten years later, 294 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm thirty and I started it when it was twenty. 295 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: I spent my entire time, you know, that entire time 296 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: on the show. But I met my wife, and you know, 297 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: lots of wonderful things happened. But do you find a 298 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: credit ride? And all those seasons and episodes. Do you 299 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: have anything that sticks out for you in your history 300 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: of something favorite, like a day that you just really 301 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: enjoyed or something filming that you just truly enjoyed. It's 302 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: a good question. Um, I don't know. I mean there's 303 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: especially because there's been people that were in and out, 304 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: you know. But I think my favorite times when I 305 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: think about people always like is there one scene or whatever, 306 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: And there's not like a particular thing. I think it's 307 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: just any of those times that you got all of 308 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: us together shooting like late night. Yeah, Park City was 309 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: amazing that we were like we I think I feel 310 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: like we all genuinely had a really good time out 311 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and they felt like camp. And so just anytime you 312 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: got us all together and it was late at night 313 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: and we were loopy and just being silly, you know, 314 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you're kind of like growing up with those people, and 315 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: those are kind of the moments that I sort of 316 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: gravitate back towards. You know. And then you're going to 317 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: be in a Tom Hanks movie. When is that kind 318 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: of I think it's coming out in May. It's called Greyhound, 319 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: World War two movie. I have a small part. But yeah, 320 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, don't do it? Why did you do that? Well, 321 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you're in a Tom I don't want 322 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: people to go and be like it's Leonora's and Tom 323 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Hanks the Home. No it's not. But you're in a 324 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks movie. It's awesome. And like you said, he 325 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: was amazing, he is. Yeah, he's just as like you know, 326 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I think I was telling you you're sometimes you're scared 327 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: to meet your heroes, right because like what if they 328 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: let you down? But he was he did not at all. 329 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: It's like super professional and obviously talented. Um, so yeah, 330 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was kind of one of those I'm 331 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: like standing there, you know, with him like five feet 332 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: away in a scene, and there's moments where I'm just 333 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: like basically pinching myself like this is happening. This is 334 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: crazy that. Yeah, Well, I love you, and you've always 335 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: been so sweet and kind and so thank you for 336 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: coming on wind Down and just for being awesome. And 337 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: you know we're always here to support you. And you know, 338 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: if you ever have relationship problems, you should listen to 339 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: wind Down because we're just we'll get your right on track. 340 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: As we found out, we have the connect the GMU 341 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: connection with my wife and Michael. So we've got a 342 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: good reason to come visit us in Nashville and I 343 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: can't wait. Yes, by guys, Okay, so excited because Antoine 344 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Tanner Skills just sat down to wind down. What are you? 345 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: How you been? I've been married? You know what I'm saying? 346 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Like the Dumbo? How long you been married for? We've 347 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: been to good since so what's that? Twenty some years 348 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: we've been married for? Oh? My goodness? And how many kids? Again? Four? 349 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: Four kids? Two boys, two girls. What is the hardest 350 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: thing about marriage for you? Um? Really? Me and my 351 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: wife are best friends though, so it's a little different. 352 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Like I think it's just like bills and the kids, 353 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: just trying to keep you know, once the kids get older, 354 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just trying to appease everybody when they start going 355 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: to their own directions on what they want to do. 356 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: It's just you know what I'm saying, You go through 357 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: the phases. How do your kids with having older kids 358 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: and them seeing what you've done and your profession everything, 359 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: How is that now? Because I feel we are only 360 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: experienced little kids, so they don't really understand the concept yet. 361 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: So how's it with your older kids understanding what you've 362 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: been able to achieve and seeing you on you know, 363 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: the big screen and stuff. Well, you know what, all 364 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: of my kids, none of them are in like the entertainment. 365 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: It's like they never really like you know, they watch 366 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: it like they never forget. I had a movie come out. 367 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: My son went to the premier and he was sitting 368 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: on my lap and he was like, man, how long 369 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: is this movie gonna be? Like when is it over? 370 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: Like any every day they don't care. It's just like, 371 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, you're just dad, Like they don't care, Like 372 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: I got a game at six, you're gonna be there? 373 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: What time do you? You know? Come? Can you drop 374 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: my friend off? Like you know, sentence like that. It's 375 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: like it's totally different when they're not like entertainment kids, 376 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They just kind of everybody's 377 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: like doing their own thing. You kind of missed those 378 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: days when they're like like you guys kids are like, 379 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: like I said, it's the fun time because they're like 380 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: under your neck and you get to do a little 381 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: stuff with them. And then you know, when they get 382 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen, they don't want nothing to do with you. 383 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: They'll be like, O, can I spend it that in 384 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: my friend's house? Yeah, I'm probably not coming home for 385 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: like too much. Like you know, like they don't want 386 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: to be bothered with you, and then you feel but hurt, 387 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: so you'd be like, oh, well you don't come see me. 388 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: And then when they get older than they want to 389 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: come back. So it's like it's a transition period. Oh 390 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: it's so fun. I can't wait. Um. So obviously you 391 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: were you know, you were the O G. So you 392 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: were there from day one with Tree Hill? Um is 393 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: that something where it's just like how how awesome of 394 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: feeling has that been? Just knowing that like you've you've 395 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: been on some many you weren't on all the seasons, 396 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: and you were there from day one and that you know, 397 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: the Tree Hell fans are this amazing and if you 398 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: have been there this entire time, it's crazy because Um, 399 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I think with like Hulu, Netflix and all the different channels, 400 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: we get new fans like every year because they go 401 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: on and they binge watching, and it's it's kids that 402 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: I've met recently that's like, oh my god, I love 403 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: you and they're like sixteen. And then I do the 404 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: math and it was like you weren't even born when 405 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: the show was on the on the air. I'm saying, 406 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: like it was off the air when you was like three, 407 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: so what do you know about it? And And they like, 408 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, you have kids. Is like I had 409 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: kids before they had kids. Like it's like really weird, 410 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: but it's cool. I mean because if you look at it, 411 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people they always say, you know, certain 412 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: shows you get the you know, they all look at 413 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the residual payments from it. Know, like if you do 414 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: any shows, the residuals always go down. With this show, 415 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: it hasn't gone down because of the conventions and stuff 416 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: like that. So this is actually the residual because they 417 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: is like the fans like they outpour for this stuff 418 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: and it's so crazy. I know. It's like every time 419 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: at a show, it's like one try Hillers. It's like 420 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: like they're the loudest in the room. Yeah, they support it. 421 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: So it's it trips me out because I've been on 422 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: other shows that's been off the air and you know 423 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: you can see somebody but oh yeah it was on 424 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the show. Cool, but they don't want to take a 425 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: picture with your hill fans be like I need my 426 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: picture you signed. This is like so inspiration. And then 427 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: here's the DVD cover I've been carrying around, Like but 428 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: the only differences with this show has so many different 429 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: lessons like life lessons. What have you taken away from 430 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: those life lessons? I mean just like like the school shootings, 431 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: like we did stuff that happened before it happened, like 432 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or when it was like 433 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't just like a occurring the event type thing. 434 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: It just was those were just the stories. That's just 435 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: what kids were going through. And a lot of those kids, 436 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: like I see them right on there. Oh my god, 437 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: like you changed my life the way you overcame this 438 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: and the way you overcame that, and you're just like, damn, 439 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: that was a character. But for some people, they really 440 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: they really grasped that and they grew from that, and 441 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: it just you know, so at a certain point it 442 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of felt like you're like, damn, that's that's dope. 443 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: And for me, I never even really watched the show 444 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: that much. I've probably seen seven or eight episodes. I 445 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: just never really watched myself. There's a lot of stuff 446 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: that's out I've never really watched I go to work 447 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and I go to the next project. But you know, 448 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: but for them, they take they take it, and I 449 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: get it because I watched, you know, like I like 450 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead and I like certain shows that I watched, 451 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, that that was good. 452 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: That's so I can understand that the passion for it. 453 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: It's just you know, when you watch you don't take 454 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: the same thing away from me, you know what I'm saying. 455 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys? Do you guys ever like being on 456 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: a show like this and you know you're there from 457 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: day one, Jane, You're had the last three seasons, but 458 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: being on such an impactful show? Is there any negative 459 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: to that? Is there anything that you're like going into 460 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: the rest of your career after being on something like 461 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: this that you feel like you're only looked at as skills, 462 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: you only looked at as alex you prey where it's 463 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: like sometimes you want to be considered for other things 464 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: that you've done or that you want to do. Yeah, 465 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: that's true because like it's like some shows that I 466 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: be wanting to go up for, you know what I'm saying, 467 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: But then they'd be like, um, he's not that type, 468 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: and a lot of times they just won't give you 469 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: the chance to even go in, and then you go 470 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: in and be like, I'll be like, oh, well, we 471 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: didn't know he had that much range. And that's just 472 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: because that was your particular character on the show, and 473 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that's just how they wrote your character to stay in 474 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: this lane because you weren't. Like my character on the 475 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: show was all comedy. You know. I really never had 476 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: that many serious moments. I never really had no conflict 477 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: love life, like crazy love life. It was all comical stuff, 478 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: you know, because everybody else had so much drama. You know, 479 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: somebody had to make somebody laugh everybody. You know, everybody 480 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: else you're gonna cry saying you get killed or you crying, 481 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: and then here comes skills. Everybody left. So sometimes when 482 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: I go out for like certain serious roles and they're like, well, 483 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, and they don't they don't see me. 484 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: But I've always been able to do both with no 485 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: problem unless they can like go back to look at 486 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: your body of work, which a lot of the newcast 487 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: and directors and stuff like that, they don't go back 488 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: and look at at what you do. A lot of 489 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: this stuff now is not talent based, I don't think. 490 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it's more popularity based, you know what I'm saying, 491 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: Like like I've been to certain auditions where they're like, 492 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, let's see how many And I was late 493 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: to social media, so like I'm behind everybody because it 494 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: took me a while to get on social media. But 495 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: I've seen him like, well, how many followers he got. 496 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: I've seen people book rolls just based on followers, and 497 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: there's other guys just so much more talented than they are, 498 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: but they're like, well, you know, he has an audience 499 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and people is gonna watch. He could promoters like free 500 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: promotion because social media is free. So it's not like 501 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: back in the day where you know, because I've been 502 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: acting twenty four years crazy because we were on the show, 503 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: we didn't there wasn't we didn't have Instagram when we 504 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: were on the show, which so crazy to think about, 505 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: Like we did not have Instagram. You had to go 506 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: in the room, you had the audition, and you had 507 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: to beat the next person out. That's just what it was. 508 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: It was mono imano and if you didn't beat them out, 509 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: you didn't work. That was and even just being on 510 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: the show too I mean all the all the pictures 511 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: that we didn't get because we didn't have social media, 512 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: so we couldn't post it. You know, we weren't taking it. 513 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: We weren't busy taking photos and posting them. Were living this. 514 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: This is what's crazy. This is how you know that 515 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: social media is like king right now because um, myself, 516 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: Hillary Buckley, Dania, we were all doing a Christmas movie, 517 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: um the Christmas Contract, and we weren't supposed to say anything. 518 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: So Hillary came up with this idea, like everybody just 519 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: turned away, take a picture and just say working on 520 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: something with some new people. And then so but all 521 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: of us took the picture where we all like just 522 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: turned away, each one of us, and we all posted 523 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: it and let the fans figure it out. So they 524 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: figured it out. Then Lifetime I was like, you guys 525 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: got to take that down daniel Lewis's project. Ye, Dine's 526 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: supposed to know that we said, but we didn't say anything. 527 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: All we did was just took a picture and it 528 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: was working on something new with some friends. But they 529 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't know which friends because every like if I took 530 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: the picture, I was smiling, but everybody else in the 531 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: back was turned away and everybody took the exact same picture, 532 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: but it like blew up like overnight. So when they 533 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: was I was like, yeah, y'all got to delete it. 534 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: So we all deleted it. The next day, like everybody 535 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: else started calling like we want to come in, we 536 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: want to interview. So I was supposed to go back home, 537 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: and they made us stay because all this like you know, 538 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: all this different media was coming in to interview us, 539 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: and you're you're welcome Lifetime. Yeah. All of a sudden, 540 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: they was like, Okay, you guys can talk about it, 541 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: but that's just how like shows you how social media go. 542 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: Was like, it's way different now. Like I said, just 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: back in the day, you had to literally prepare for 544 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: your audition and let me read, let me rent lines 545 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: with this person, let me get let me get in character, 546 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: let me focus, and let me go in there now. 547 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: And they're just like what's this? Twitter look like, uh, 548 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: what's this? So? I know Tori doesn't want to ask it, 549 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: but I'll ask it for her. Since here Lucas's boy. 550 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: Do you think he ended up with the right girl 551 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: the end on the show who he ended up with? Peyton? Oh? Yeah, 552 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: I don't watch it I'm serious. I like, like like 553 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: eight episodes. But I mean, you know, you read the script, 554 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: so in your I never read the script. I read 555 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: my episode. I read my part, and I would film 556 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: my part and that would be it. I would be like, okay, cool, 557 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: we off man. I had I had stuff to do 558 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: because you gotta remember, I had kids. I had kids 559 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: in California. You know, I was living here, trying to 560 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: make sure my marriage is doing it and trying to 561 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: make sure I'm dad. You know, you can't miss certain things. 562 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: So I would just come in. I would like, literally 563 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: read this, do this. Then I got to go home 564 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: and help with homework. Then I got to you know, 565 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: like I would literally film for two days and jump 566 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: on a plane. It was one time I never forget. 567 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: I jumped on the plane at six am to get 568 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: back to l A at ten to go to my 569 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: son's um violin He played the violin to go to 570 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: his recital at four, and then I was on the 571 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: red eye to get back here to go to work 572 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. But I had to do it. You 573 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, what are you doing right now? Well, 574 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: I've been working a lot. I did um n c 575 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: I s Lucifer. I've been booking a lot of little 576 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: shows here there, and that's awesome. Well, everyone go follow 577 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: Antoine on Instagram. Get him up Antoine how I couldn't 578 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: use my name because my son is a junior, and 579 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: so he used when I went. When I finally got 580 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I was like, why can't I use my name? 581 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: And I think it was funny. I think you follow 582 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: a fake page of mind or something and he was like, 583 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: this is not um, you have a fake page. And 584 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even have a page. So 585 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: I got on here later, so like, welcome on there, 586 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: we got you. Thanks for coming on bed, thanks thanks 587 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: for having me. Y'all be good. Alright, So just to 588 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: get a little um one tree Hill fan catch up here, Kylie. 589 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: How is it, how's the room? How's the energy up there? 590 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: What's been going on? Well? The energy today was kind 591 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: of crazy. I think it's like the massive amount of 592 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Tree hillers today, and I was a little overwhelmed, not 593 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna lie, I was just a little bit overwhelmed by 594 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: how many people were in there. But I think that's 595 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: like super awesome for you guys, because these things keep 596 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: happening if there's a lot of people, who is the 597 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: coolest person that you saw today? So this morning, Jana 598 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: said we're all out at nine fifteen, and for some 599 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: reason I didn't hear that, and so it was nine 600 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: tin and my hair was wet and I had no 601 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: makeup on, and I was like, all right, cool, it's fine, 602 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: we'll have time in the car. And then we walk 603 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: into the lobby and they're hands Chad, Michael Murray, James Lafferty, Hillary, 604 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, James, wow, and I just like 605 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: look back at Jana and I was like, I can 606 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: not right now. And then we got in the content. 607 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: She's like, how excited are you? And I was like, 608 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little bit disappointed because I looked 609 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: like the way I'm a beautiful blah blah blah. Yeah yeah, 610 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: but like honestly, like there's a standard. So I mean, 611 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: but then I got to play with their kids and 612 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then now you're Danny to the stars. Yeah, 613 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: now you're inside playing with Chad's kids. Kylie, oh my god, 614 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: my baby. I just like extra money. I'm just I'm 615 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 1: a hustler like you, Janna, Like I I appreciate it. 616 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: I like it, Jannis, my priority, any anyone that you 617 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: talked to that you just um have a new found 618 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: love for. Yeah, you know, I'm just kidding. Alex Um No. 619 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Hillary Peyton is just as genuinely nice in person as 620 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: she is on the show. And like she doesn't have 621 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: her kids here this weekend, but she was like sitting 622 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: down down with the kids playing and just like sharing 623 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: the French fries, letting them stomp all over them. And 624 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: so the payton that I loved and dreamed of as 625 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: a um as a teenager is the exact payton that 626 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: she does in real life. So that's awesome. Well, thanks 627 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: for the insight, Kylie. You're welcome by Hi. I am 628 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: so excited right now because I see Stephen Coletty and 629 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm really hoping he's gonna come over here because Alex 630 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: inside of me is just I'm yearning for some Challex, 631 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Chase and Alex action. Did you guys have was that 632 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: girl's name? I don't remember what they called us. I 633 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: believe it was Where was this character's name? It Chase 634 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: and I was Alex, so I believe it was Alex, 635 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: but I'm not really sure it's there. He is, Oh 636 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: my god, Stephen COLETTI, will you come on, Mike, there's 637 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: your there's your headphones right there. Everyone, welcome to wind Out. 638 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: It's been long awaited, Stephen. I am so excited. It 639 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: is good to be here. So I think podcast started. 640 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Everyone's been waiting for Stephen to get on. Yeah. I know. 641 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: How many times did you guys make out or kiss 642 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: in the show? Um? All right, just in the show? Yeah, 643 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: just just just on record, Um, that was probably a 644 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: solid like seventy three probably yeahs counting, you know, but 645 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: I didn't you remember the exact number any too much 646 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: to remember. I get in and then if we're in totality, yeah, sure, 647 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so awkward right now. So 648 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: do you want to tell Stephen what? Because he had 649 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: never watched, he had no idea about who who, Alex 650 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: was like, do you want to tell you know what? 651 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: You kind of said last night? Oh yeah. I watched 652 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: the first couple of episodes Jana was in and I 653 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, coming in into this environment, I should 654 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: know a little bit of your research, right, And I 655 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: look over at her on the plane as I'm watching, 656 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the worst. I'm like, Alex, do you 657 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: praise sucks. I'm like, how do people like you? Okay? 658 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: So this is the perfect setup for for the question. 659 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: I get the most about Chase and really and Alex 660 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: and and it's like, all right, is it Mia? Who? 661 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Kate Vogel another character on the show. She played Mia, 662 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: and and Chase dated her and dated Alex and they 663 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: ask who would you pick? And who do you think 664 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Chase should end up with? And I always say me, 665 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: I know you do and it really makes me mad. 666 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: I was that like, she Alex is a bit of 667 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: a nightmare. I was like, if you don't do not 668 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: date actresses, steer clear there, She'll only be one head 669 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: shot in a relationship. All right. But we had so 670 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: much fun filming. I take it. I take it very 671 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: personal when you when you keep saying Mia okay, because 672 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, what about Alex really had a turnaround? Man, 673 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: because he was just like Michael was like, are do 674 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: you get likable? And I was like, well, yeah, I 675 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: get a boyfriend, but could he trust that though I 676 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: loved you, look, you are not the first to say that. 677 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: And then also just steamroll my heart, all right? And 678 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: every time I get up, I dressed myself off and 679 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: I say, okay, let's do this again, and I get 680 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: my heartbroken, but you didn't. Like all I wanted was 681 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: someone to be Are we talking about real life or 682 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: characters right now? I just got lost. I'm talking about 683 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: our characters. Like Alex wanted to like she wanted that 684 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: commitment and you didn't really give it to her. I 685 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: know that you were that broken. Trust is broken. Trust. 686 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: You know I didn't do anything wrong, that's debatable. What 687 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: did I do? Oh my gosh. See they just conveniently forget, 688 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: don't they? Alex? Didn't she believable? Did I? We'll see, 689 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: We'll see what to bring it up? Alex. All I'm 690 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: saying is is I really wanted to be with Chase, 691 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it breaks my heart a little bit 692 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: that he chose the safe option, and he chooses the 693 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: safe option? Is that why you kill yourself? I didn't 694 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: kill myself spoiler alert. People who are listening have seen that. 695 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I think that, Ulian, because in all seriousness, 696 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: you were too big for Chase. You belonged with like 697 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: you're going to go off. It just really triggers my 698 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: heart a little bit. You would you were going off 699 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: to marry Tim McGraw or something like that, You're gonna 700 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: go find your country star chases, but I wanted to. 701 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: I want to Chase. I was chasing Chase. But I 702 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: knew just like it's not true you got him, you 703 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: just didn't care. That's not true at all. I had. 704 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: I went off to do my music and he's like, 705 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be you know, go fly planes. And 706 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: then it was just to be a superstar. And but 707 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I was waiting for you. I waited for you, and 708 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: she's still out there somewhere, just waiting in the wings. 709 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: Poor Alex. Everyone feel bad for Alex. We to fund 710 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: the right. We did. We did. I I always said, 711 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: I think my my most fun was shooting with you. 712 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: We had a good time. Yeah, Yeah, it was always 713 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: a blast on set, and those days seemed like the easiest. Yeah. 714 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: We were always laughing and having a good time. And yeah, 715 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: we we would just come just skipping on a set 716 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: and then you know, i'd probably go chase butterflies and 717 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: you would have to snap and get me focused, and 718 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: even like, hey Steven, Steven, let's go, well that's it's seriously, 719 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: was having upstairs too, because we were taking photos together. 720 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: He kept like like Stephen, I'm like, oh, this is 721 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: like flashbacks to when we were filming. I know I'm 722 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: not the first one we're working here, Tory, I know 723 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: you're losing your mind right now. Do you want to ask? Yeah? Well, um, 724 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: Laguna Beach was my first reality TV show that I 725 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: used have to sneak from my parents. Was a lot 726 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: of people's first Yeah. I think it was like technically 727 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: the first first reality there. There was many, There were many, 728 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: many more because I was like I remember going into MTV. 729 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: There was our generation. I think, yeah, the Osborne Show, 730 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: there was the Nick and Jessica Show. Because I read 731 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: a big world. Yeah, but I would sneak it because 732 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: all my older siblings would watch it and I'd be 733 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: like watching dishes, like trying to watch my mom and 734 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: be like, nop, you know a lot to watch it, 735 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: and you guys are a little scandalous for me at 736 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: that age. But I think it's the best thing ever. 737 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: You and LCS still healing over it. Yeah, it was, Man, 738 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: that was half my lifetime ago. Now I'm thirty four 739 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: years old and I was seventeen when I started doing 740 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: thirty four. Yea, I'm wow, what's wrong? With four. Well, no, 741 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: because I just remember you being so much younger than me. 742 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: But at the time I think you were what was 743 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: that ten years ago, So at the time that was 744 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: a lot. We were twenty four and at the time 745 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm twenty six years old. I felt 746 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: older than I felt like three years afore. I'm probably 747 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: be thirty three. There's such a different different generations. I'm like, okay, yeah, 748 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think there's I think you know, 749 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: there's something to be said about twenty four year old 750 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: guy versus the twenties six seven year old girl with 751 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: immature Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think that's double 752 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: at that point in those years younger. I feel like 753 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: where a girl is around, a guy gets to around 754 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: like ways behind her. But if you start calling him 755 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: a millennial or something, then I'm technically a millennial. So 756 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: are you sure you're pretty old? Yes? I like home. 757 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: Mike think with our powers can bind, we can handle alec. 758 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: So I know that you said, especially with makeout scenes 759 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: and stuff. You've always asked me, is it you know, 760 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: is it weird for the girl? And I always say, 761 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: because I've never actually asked another guy, Um like For 762 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, it's it's not you don't really 763 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: feel anything because there's a camera, people everywhere, and there's 764 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: a you know, the director, and it's just so many 765 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: people watching that it's not like an intimate thing. That's 766 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: what I've always like, I told him, Yeah, it's not 767 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: really there's there's no there's no feelings. I mean, it's 768 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: it's not romantic. No. Yeah, so you feel the same 769 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: way because I don't even remember like one of the 770 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: bed scenes that we did, we were like on top 771 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: of each other and then it's like cut and then 772 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: we roll off and because what do you need lunch, 773 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: were like picking like crap out of our teeth and like, 774 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: so just I'm just trying to comfort you. And I've 775 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: been fine. All I've had to experience is homework in 776 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: Lifetime kisses. So it's again it's until you get that 777 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: showtime series or something, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, 778 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm stay home for this one. I'll ask grap of 779 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: fire looking to beach questions. Did you really live in 780 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: the good of each yes? Um? How did you get 781 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: sought out? Um? They My name came up in some 782 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: stories I think between the girls, which they got they 783 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: were talking to Christien and her group of friends and 784 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: Lauren her group of friends. Who are you friends with first, 785 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: Kristen or Lauren? Kristen didn't come to they going to 786 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: beach until we are freshman in high school. And I've 787 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: known Lawrence since I was six years old. Oh wow, 788 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: so you guys really worry childhood friends? Okay, are you 789 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: guys still friends? Yeah? That's cool. That was very not 790 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: what Yeah, that was that was genuine And we just 791 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: found a video to Kristen together. Yeah, as we're both 792 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: still friends with Kristen. Yeah, I wish, I'm sorry, I 793 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: wish I had more drama for you, but we actually 794 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: and I just like to know it we matured a 795 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: little bit from from seventeen years old and what was 796 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: occurring on on that show back then. So you actually 797 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: work at it, wasn't it a surf shop? I did. 798 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: They're They're gonna beach, surf and sport. This makes me 799 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: st what I really did just have to watch the 800 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: whole season because we had a podcast based off The 801 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: Hills reboot, and so I had to rewatch everything entering 802 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: into that. So that's why everything is actually pretty fresh 803 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: in my brain, which I'm actually really appreciative of that. 804 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: I remember you worked at a surf shop. Um, did 805 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: you ever reconsider going on the reboot? Uh? Or considered 806 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: the thought? Um, well, MTVS has asked me, but yeah, 807 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: I still don't know. I think that first season of 808 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: Laguna Beach was was of reality television for a couple 809 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: of lifetimes. And I did the second season a little 810 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: bit something go on the Hills for a bit, I 811 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: did one episode. I did one episode of the Hills. Um. 812 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: They you know, they've asked me a bunch over the years, 813 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: and I was obviously getting a scripted stuff, and so 814 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: there was an opportunity where once they realized I was 815 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: I was obviously more concerned about doing scripted, they paired 816 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: a development deal like which is something you call in 817 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: the industry where you can get six months to a 818 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: year where a company, say you know or network will 819 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: lock you in exclusively to just do scripted stuff with them. So, um, 820 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: they did that, and I was bringing them all these 821 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: different projects, and of course they were just like, oh, no, 822 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: we're good, We're good. It was right when MTV was 823 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: getting its scripted But what I later figured out is 824 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they didn't care about the development deal 825 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: with me. They were just willing to do say oh hey, 826 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you this as well, and come do 827 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: the hills, and so we did one episode. Um, but 828 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: you know it's fine. If there's one movie, you could 829 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: do one character one movie, what would it be? Oh 830 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: my gosh, we just played this game last time, and 831 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: I mine was like a pride and prejudice kind of here. 832 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, well I wanted to be a superhero. It 833 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: is a loaded question, but I was just, um, I 834 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: was just watching a uh some sort of preview on 835 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: Maverick and Miles Teller was talking about, you know, working 836 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: a top gun and just working with Tom Cruise and 837 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: now there the whole lead up to shooting the movie 838 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: and shooting the movie. And I think, like, as a 839 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: thirty four year old guy, or any any guy that's 840 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: between the age of like thirty and and sixty, I 841 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: think being a top gun or seeing that movie was 842 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: somewhere that's like close to their hearts. So I just 843 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: right now, I mean, that would be something that would 844 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: be awesome. I could see that. I lost. Yeah, and 845 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: then Chase, obviously I played. My character was in the 846 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: Air Force it's something that you know, Mark Schwant kind 847 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: of caught wind that I said, always said, like planned 848 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: c was to be in the military, and my grandpa 849 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: was in the military, and so I think he once 850 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: he caught wind of that, it was implemented in this show. 851 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, is that any regrets not going 852 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: into that or maybe we're good? Yeah? Alright, so plan 853 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: and be you're fine. Oh yeah, here's James so excited 854 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: because James Lafferty is also on the wine. Do you 855 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: know how long I've wanted both of you guys on 856 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: We're happy to be for Yeah, for sure, and you 857 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: came on you you helped us with our campaign when 858 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: we're doing the campaign for you. Yeah. For everyone's doing great. 859 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: Can you We just like whose idea was that? Who 860 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: started it off? Started with James? Yeah, I had the 861 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: initial idea, but um really quickly I brought it to 862 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: Stephen I think probably the day after it's just sort 863 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: of entered my head because, um, I just wanted to 864 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: make sure that we could both sort of bring ourselves 865 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: to the thing because it's it's rooted in it's rooted 866 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: in our reality kind of um. And so we both 867 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: developed those UM the characters and then the story from 868 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 1: from that point on. So yeah, and then you guys 869 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: did a full episode. Where where did the actual episodes air? 870 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: Was it on? Because you we did the I remember 871 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: we went to your house and we got the money 872 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: for you know, to help raise money for filming season. Yeah, 873 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: where did you guys put that out? So that was 874 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: for just doing the campaign in the beginning, and that 875 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: was about That was a year almost, It was a 876 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: year and a half ago now. And so then once 877 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: we got all the money to shoot the show, we 878 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: started shooting at the end of two thousand eighteen, and 879 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: then we were cutting it and we worked a small team. 880 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: James and I are the editors on the thing, and 881 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: so we we've been editing all of two thousand nineteen. Uh, 882 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, trying to get out there and 883 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: find like a home for it, and then also just 884 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: working on um some of our final stages of post production, 885 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: just getting all the music in there. We're actually working 886 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: with Michael Grubs who's doing the score for us, him 887 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: and his partner from something Cheap since something he's working 888 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: on now. The fans working the fans watch it right 889 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: now and it's not out yet so we have. That's 890 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: what we're doing is putting the finishing touches on the 891 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: first season, which is going to be eight episodes. UM. 892 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: So that's why it's taken so long because when you 893 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: normally would have you know, a team of editors rotating 894 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: in like you know, of sharing the episodes, it's just 895 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: us to working on the whole thing. Um. So basically 896 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: we're aiming to have the show released um April or May, 897 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: and we don't have, um, we don't have, Like we 898 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: think we've narrowed down some options where I think we're 899 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: going to release it so to be rented or to 900 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: be bought um at first and then hopefully a subscription 901 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: service later. But um, we're still sort of deciding which 902 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: platform it's going to be on and what's the concept. 903 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: Just like the quick elevator pitch of the show, like 904 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: our listeners have an idea of what to look out 905 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: for you're on Uh basically, I mean you're gonna meet 906 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: two guys that are in their thirties. It's like five 907 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: six years after they were huge, like teen heart Throbs. 908 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: They're on a vampire show. It's kind of like Vampire 909 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: Diaries or a teen Wolf or something like that, and 910 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: they're the biggest stars and you're seeing them years later 911 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: having to kind of well just where they're at in 912 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: their real lives and and and after you know, having 913 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: a lot of things come easy to them young. When 914 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: they're younger, they're kind of realizing it that that you know, 915 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: it's not as life's not as easy as they might 916 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 1: have thought. And you're seeing them go through their struggles. 917 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: They're at a crossroads, and so they're kind of leaning 918 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: on each other when they shouldn't be because they both 919 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of to work out. And so you're 920 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: seeing them in their trials and tribulations and kind of 921 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: how they're reacting to their reality. And you're kind of 922 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: playing with this perception versus reality as far as people 923 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: that are seen as like, you know, big stars are 924 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: very successful, but when they're at home and they're by themselves, 925 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: what that looks like, what's more down earth kind of 926 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: grounded in real life? What these people are going through. 927 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: And most importantly, you're laughing at them because it's a comedy. 928 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: And have you guys been able to pull from your 929 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: experience I'm assuming a little bit being you know that 930 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: have been young heart throbs in your careers to be like, Okay, 931 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: this is something happened to me that how can we 932 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: kind of make a spoof of this or make it 933 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: funny and entertaining. Yeah, that's what brought us to the 934 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: idea was we um, you know, after one Tree Hill, 935 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: I think you think, um that you you you think 936 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: that it's going to be an easy ride. You know 937 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your next acting gig right away. It's 938 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: all going to be um sort of downhill from there. 939 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: And for for I mean for us, it was sort 940 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: of the opposite, you know, we had we've sort of 941 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: faced like a lot of adversity in terms of getting 942 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: that next job. Why do you think that is? Because 943 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't get that it's you know, 944 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: I think it's probably a combination of things. I think 945 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: there there is a little bit of you know, people 946 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: don't necessarily like when somebody starts their own show, they 947 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: really want it to be their own concepts, right. They 948 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: want to build their own world, and they want to 949 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: build it fresh. And I think when you've played a 950 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: character on a show for so long, you may be 951 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 1: too deeply rooted in that, you know, in that image 952 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: for them to be able to see you in their thing. 953 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Also a lot of it might just I mean, for 954 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: me personally, it was how prepared I was for to 955 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: take that next step, and I wasn't very prepared I 956 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: was going in there and the auditioning working is another 957 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: beast than acting on set, and you have to go 958 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: through that. You have to master that to to get 959 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to jump on set and make film and television. 960 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: And so that's you know, a cult are shocking away 961 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: coming back after for eight months in a row. You're 962 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: shooting a show and then you're dropped into l a 963 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: and you can walk into that first room and be like, 964 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, I'm coming off the show. And 965 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: then just the littlest thing, can can you know? You 966 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: can who you're reading with, Like you might be reading 967 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: with your your wife, and it's like some dude that's 968 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: just you know, reading off a page in front of you, 969 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: and it just kind of trips you up. You're not 970 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: used to it, and all of a sudden you fall 971 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: in your face and then you walk out of there 972 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 1: and that confidence meter just like drops and it keeps 973 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: dropping because they're like, oh god, so can I ask 974 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: a question for you guys though too on that just 975 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: real sidebar with the auditioning. Um, I have a I 976 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of things have obviously moved to 977 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: on tape. I don't. I've never one like on tape. 978 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm terrible on tape. I feel like being in the 979 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: room is like the only way that I've been able 980 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: to actually work. And because I'm I'm nice and I'm 981 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: friendly and I'm chatty, so it's like, I feel like 982 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: that's where people see my personality and on tape it doesn't. 983 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, do you guys go on tape a 984 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: lot and like, what's the biggest tip for winning on 985 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: a tape? Because I think that's where I struggle like 986 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: the worst. I feel like, I mean, for me, going 987 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: on tape, it affords you the opportunity to to work 988 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: many times through something with somebody, hopefully he's a patient reader. 989 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: Um as as I put James through and we've got 990 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: Rob Buck and Mike's always I always feel bad. I'm like, 991 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And then I 992 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: find myself given Jana tips I've never actually da in 993 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: my life. I'm like, honey, what do you need to 994 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: do right here to make you become a director. So 995 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: I think that that that's good, even though, yeah, you 996 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: can work yourself into a frenzy and probably those first 997 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 1: couple of takes are gonna be the best ones. But 998 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: you're right, there is something to be said about walking 999 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: into the room, carrying that character kind of in the room, 1000 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: having an engagement with the people, and then also having 1001 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: them give you direction right away, and then on that 1002 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: second take you can turn and take it and if 1003 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: they see you take that direction, then that's going to 1004 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: be good for the process, like, oh, we can work 1005 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: it with this person. So there's pros and cons, you know, Rob, 1006 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 1: But you got anything, Rob. Welcome Rob Buckley Part two. 1007 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: By the way. First of all, by the way, East, 1008 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: can your headphone? You can put a shirt on? I'm 1009 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: over here quiet. I feel like the fourth Jonas brother. 1010 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: Isn't that the last guy in the world you're supposed 1011 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: to borrow the headphones from? Probably that was that was 1012 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: the most diva acter thing ever. Can I can I 1013 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: borrow the cameraman's glasses because it's about me. I've never 1014 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: booked a job office self tape. I'm with you. I 1015 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: just feel like I do better in the room. And 1016 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: I haven't done enough tape yet. I think it's great. 1017 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: It's there's a luxury in knowing I don't have to 1018 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: be on If it takes me thirty takes, that's fine, um, 1019 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: which you can also bleed into like a seven hour taping, 1020 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, but there's something to be said for I 1021 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: like the finality of a deadline, you know, so I 1022 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: just go in the room. And also it's kind of 1023 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: the same thing, like personality does help you get the 1024 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: job sometimes, so if you go in and you're warm, 1025 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: or you just kind of riff with them and you 1026 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: hit it off. Yeah, you know, I know. I just 1027 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: felt like everything when I was living in l A. 1028 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: It was just like just put on tape and it's 1029 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: just I don't know, it becomes frustrating. Then when you 1030 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: do get the opportunity to get in the room I got, 1031 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: I just get so nervous. I'm just terrible auditioning this 1032 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: past season. I hadn't audition to a one like my 1033 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: first one out when I went out for I way over, 1034 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: Like I didn't just prepare myself for like be calm, 1035 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: be cool. Instead I came in and was like super anxious, 1036 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: and excited and like my people pleasing came out, So 1037 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: there was like half a second of silence. It's like 1038 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: me and eight people and they just all were looking 1039 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: at me, and I was like, so, what's up? Great script? 1040 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: Do you guys like avocado toast? Like the four things 1041 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: came out and I caught myself. I was like, what 1042 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: are you doing? You shut your mouth? So yeah, the 1043 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: nerves are real, Like I like the takeaway from audition. 1044 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't even about the performance. It was like broke dude, 1045 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: dial it in, like walk in, do your job, thank 1046 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: them for their time. But like you know, I was 1047 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: nervous and I haven't I have a horror story. I've 1048 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: spoken about this a couple of times. But there was 1049 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: one audition, um I think it was it was the 1050 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: show doesn't matter. Actually I wish I remembered the show 1051 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: so I can call him out right now. But it was, uh, 1052 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: something I was excited about, you know. And I showed 1053 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: up and I'm waiting next up. So they moved me 1054 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: in a room closer to the room that you're going 1055 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: into next. And then the guy comes out and then 1056 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: I hear inside the room like, oh, who do we got? Who? 1057 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: Do we got next, Like we got Stephen Clartie, Stephen 1058 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: Clartie work on One Tree Hill and then they go, oh, 1059 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: another one of those One Tree Hill horrors. Huh what? 1060 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: Right before I'm about to walk in the room, and 1061 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, what do I do here? 1062 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to walk in there and and just say 1063 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: something and turn around walk out. But I went in 1064 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: and did my job and left. And it's kind of 1065 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 1: like I've been kicking myself ever since, like I should 1066 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: have said something and just been like, you know what, 1067 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm out of here. But you know, you were a professional. 1068 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: So my my wife Jenny, she kept a acting journal 1069 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: of every audition she went on, and so she she 1070 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: dug it up recently and she was like, oh my god, 1071 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: I went out for the pilot of One Tree Hill. 1072 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: It was like, no way, and she's like it might 1073 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: be in my journal and no. She digs up her 1074 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: journal and she's like, yeah, I think she. I think 1075 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: she read for Like Joys. And then they were like, no, 1076 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't called her characters name at the time, 1077 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: and then Sous character wasn't brooked yet. But it was 1078 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: like like, I think we should come back to be 1079 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: a cheer. But basically, like in the shuffle of her 1080 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: being the casting office, she overheard the casting director talking 1081 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,760 Speaker 1: on the phone, I'm presuming to an agent. Jenny wrote 1082 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: down the quote and it was basically, Um, look, I'm 1083 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: not looking for Meryl Streep. This is a c W show. 1084 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: They just need to be able to chew gum and 1085 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: walk at the same time. This is gold part of 1086 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: what's going on right now. It was I was like, 1087 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was the casting director of the 1088 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: original cast matter of our show, A woman whoever was 1089 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: That's what she said, just like I don't need a 1090 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: Meryal Streep, I just need someone who can chew gum 1091 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: and walk. It well, now I know the part you 1092 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: and Nathan did it so well. I want to ask 1093 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: me the question what everyone's doing great? Um? What what? 1094 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: What platform do you guys wanted to be on? Like, 1095 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: if you have your dream, is it Hulu? Netflix? Like 1096 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: do you want to what do you want? We have 1097 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: episodes ranging from twenty four minutes to thirty seven minutes. Uh, 1098 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: it would not fit on traditional TV, so I think 1099 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: we we we've always kind of had the idea would 1100 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: go on a streaming service. I think something like Hulu 1101 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: or Netflix would would be ideal, or Amazon of course. 1102 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: And then regardless of like let's just say I believe 1103 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: Hulu or Netflix absolutely, but will you put it out 1104 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: somewhere else? Like what other streaming service could you do 1105 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: just to get it, just to get the fans excited 1106 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: to watch it, because you two are gold together, So 1107 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: I don't I think if it's out there, then people 1108 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: are going to A network is gonna then obviously open 1109 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: their eyes and be like wow, or a streaming service. 1110 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: What we're kind of doing right now is courting like 1111 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: the independent film distribution model, where you can sort of 1112 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: put something out like d I Y distribution for rental 1113 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: um or have people buy it and then you know, 1114 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: if it does well through through sort of you know, 1115 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 1: that way of distribution, then you can then have you know, 1116 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: a streaming service come to you to license it for 1117 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: their subscription service. Um, you know the other season hopefully. Yeah. 1118 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: We kind of produced this thing knowing that, like independent 1119 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: television was something that might not be hitting quite yet, 1120 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: like it maybe as big as independent film is someday, 1121 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: but it really isn't quite there yet. So the we 1122 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: went about it in an experimental way. And you know 1123 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: it may come down to us having to distribute it 1124 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: in sort of an experimental way. Um, and you know, 1125 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: hopefully get that licensing deal, but you know, a sort 1126 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 1: of rental or you know, buying option first. Um, that 1127 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: might be what we're presented with. YEA follow up question, Um, 1128 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: you know this one, This one kind of comes I 1129 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: think both from didn't it? Uh No, that's actually it's 1130 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: funny because it's what my questions about. I thought, I 1131 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: because I was just like I had kind of been 1132 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: like I'd love to be in it. Never got a call. Yeah, 1133 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: so on behalf of Jane and I guess my question is, Um, 1134 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: where do you get off not hiring either of the 1135 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: fact that you asked for thousand an episode, knowing very 1136 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: well that we raised money on Indiego Go. You said, well, 1137 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: this is my quote. You either get me or you don't. 1138 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where this conversation stomped. Do you 1139 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: know how many dozen of fans I would bring to 1140 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: your show? You blew it? You dummies. Buckley just coming 1141 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: in sour, I'm open for a season two. I'm like 1142 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: trying to like, I'm okay, I know a producer that 1143 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: could maybe get your show on a streaming service. And 1144 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: I'm already I'm already trying to play. I was like, 1145 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: I'd like produce a credit and an actor in it. 1146 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 1: So I'm already like I've already had side conversations with Stephen, 1147 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: like I want to hustle to get on this. Everyone's 1148 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: doing great. See, I've been just way less a depth, 1149 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, what you should have 1150 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: in this is another white guy who's like decent at 1151 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 1: comedy but not really that good. Your plan is better. Wait, 1152 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: was the profound thing you wanted to say? Okay, I 1153 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: have three things. The first one, this is just this 1154 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: is some wisdom or a secret, whatever you want to 1155 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: call it. Okay, this is a little gift for me 1156 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: to your listeners. Okay. The first one is moisturize your neck. 1157 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: This is something people aren't going to tell you. Cosmo 1158 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: is not going to tell you this. Okay. People say, 1159 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: moisturize your face. That's great, but you know what happens. 1160 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: You don't moisturize your neck, and then you're fifty with 1161 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: a seventy year old neck. So guys, don't stop at 1162 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: the chin. Take it all the way down to the 1163 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: collar bone. Yeah, ladies, get your chest to take it 1164 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: down to the collar. Yeah. No, you're actually right. The 1165 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: second one Okay, I'm not going to give you the third. 1166 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the third, James, so 1167 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: stop asking. The second one is the secret ingredient is 1168 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: always butter. True because when I make mac and cheese 1169 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: for the kids and I don't put the butt the 1170 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: two table suits of butter in, it just asn't tastes good. 1171 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: It's watery. The consistency isn't there. Yeah, when you're talking 1172 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: about for food, right, always when you go to the restaurant, 1173 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: you're like, why is this chicken pocato is so much 1174 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 1: better than mine? Well, there's a half stick of butter 1175 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: more in there's That's why you dumbed our report. Please 1176 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: tell me the third one because I will not be 1177 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: able to sleep. Why invite me back on your podcast? 1178 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: You've already been one twice in the last hour. Have 1179 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: you ever had a guest come on three times in 1180 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: one day? And congrats to me? Listen, listen for what 1181 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm lacking in appearances on everyone's doing great. I'm making 1182 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: up foreign appearances on your body twice, so you're already 1183 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: breaking records here. I know, you're amazing. Where can everyone, 1184 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: um follow, like, um, everyone is doing great on Instagram 1185 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: is definitely a good one, Okay, and then yeah that's 1186 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: probably the main one. I mean, you can we have 1187 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: a page on Facebook. Um at d G t V 1188 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: show on Twitter, Okay, follow the guys because they're they're 1189 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great show. I already know it 1190 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: is because they're they're awesome, So we should yeah, come on, Well, 1191 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the preview from from 1192 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: Facebook at one time, and we should say also like 1193 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: thanks again to you guys for um for helping us out, 1194 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, through the campaign, and I mean it, I 1195 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: think being here at this convention, it's an appropriate time 1196 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: to like just say that you guys, all the whole 1197 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: cast like really showed up for us and gave their 1198 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: time and um, and our campaign was not doing that 1199 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: well up until those you know, live watches that we 1200 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: did with you guys. And after that sort of run 1201 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: of live watches that we did, it was a whole 1202 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: different ballgame. It was like it made it made us 1203 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: a failure of a campaign from a failure of a 1204 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: campaign into like, oh my god, we can actually make 1205 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: us a success. So it's really really cool those guys 1206 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: that everyone is doing great. Everyone is doing great. And 1207 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: Rob Buckley you can see probably next week on one 1208 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: and Down if you want to follow question my bi 1209 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: monthly segments. Hown't we been married for sixteen years? It'll 1210 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: be sixteen years, fourteen years from April eleven. Yeah, but 1211 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: really like it, it'll be two years, two years. Yeah, 1212 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: do that math in your head. I did drop some 1213 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: toothpicks on the ground. I'll tell you how many it is. 1214 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: What's what's what's been the best part of marriage for y'all? Oh? Man, 1215 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: we we play. I talk a lot. Yeah, we but 1216 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: we we play a lot. Like it's it is just 1217 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot of silliness. Like I feel like I have gotten, uh, 1218 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: exponentially funnier. Yeah, so that that's definitely it. Like you know, 1219 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: they say, like, oh, your best friend, and to be 1220 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: honest with you, even going into marriage, I'm like, no, 1221 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm marrying a cool friend. But that's all good. I 1222 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: have best friends. It's okay. She doesn't need to be 1223 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: all that. And I was just sitting there, damn, like, no, man, 1224 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: you don't spend this much time with someone and not 1225 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: want to punch him in the throat, Like this is 1226 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: my best friend. You never want to punch her in 1227 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: the throp like occasion. I mean never, And it's just 1228 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: like it's been playing. That's what it is, because you 1229 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: know it is like there's tough you know, like there's 1230 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: hard times, there's all the times. But like if you 1231 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: can laugh, may make each other laugh, it's the best. 1232 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Like we I do dumb bits all the time. And 1233 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: she we have a bit where she like she playfully 1234 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: smacks me in the face and guys, here, please please, 1235 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm not quivering, I'm not shaking. Please hear me when 1236 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I say playfully smacks me in the face. But honest 1237 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: to God, like I love it. It's like if I 1238 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: go away to work or something, it's been like four 1239 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: days and I haven't got slapped in my face a 1240 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm like, I really, I really missed that 1241 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: playful slap because I kind of need someone to be 1242 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: like quiet, shut up. That was dumb. Oh wow, what 1243 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: a takeaway. I mean we usually have like some kind 1244 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: of relationship takeaway um on the show, So maybe that's 1245 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a just slap a little Here's another one. Though here's 1246 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: another one. This isn't one of my three secrets, but 1247 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's almost and a half ready. 1248 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: For those of you who aren't married yet, this is 1249 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: my tip find someone who looks good in sweatpants, because 1250 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: it has been my experience that marriage is sweatpants for real. Though, right, guys, well, no, 1251 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. I'm in yoga pants, sweatpants. I mean, 1252 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm changing right before we leave for this flight into 1253 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: my yoga pants. So of the time, I'm in yoga pants. 1254 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: And Michael, what did you say were two outfits every day? 1255 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I asked you, and I said, do 1256 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: you ever get tired of me wearing the same thing? 1257 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: And was like, well, I wear the same thing. I 1258 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: was like, no, you were the same kind of thing. 1259 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I wear physically, the same jackets or the same sweatshirt, 1260 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: or the same genes or the same shoes every other day, 1261 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: and you're always in like your athlete, like the same 1262 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: shorts or at home in the same sort pants. Yeah, 1263 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: we're guys. Were easy, but especially once you're married and 1264 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: you're not trying to impresident when you're like, no, I 1265 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: got my gray shirt in my red shirt. I'm good. 1266 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm fine until next Christmas. Yeah, no specific just purple drink. 1267 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: You know that whole drink. Oh my god, I love that. Okay, 1268 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: slaps and sweatpants, um, I like it. Well, guys, thank 1269 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: you so much. I really appreciate it. I love you guys. 1270 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: This has been it's like Summer Camp Reunion. Probably going 1271 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: to be our best episode yet ever, and it's gonna 1272 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: blow everything. Okay, I love you guys. Everyone's doing great. 1273 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's doing great.