1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: How you doing. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: We're on every day one until four, and then if 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: you missed any part of the show, you can go 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio app listen to the podcast version John 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand, same as the radio show. If 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: you want to track us on social media, We're at 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Radio and we look at you know what. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Maybe by the end of the year we will look 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: back on April eighteenth and say that was the day 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: things started to change in the state of California. And 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: there are two big issues that the change may be 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: beginning today we'll see Issue number one is it looks 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: like a lot of people sign petitions to get a 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: referendum on the ballot to greatly revise Prop. Forty seven. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: And we are going to talk now with Great Tottin. 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: He's been with us before. He's the CEO of the 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: California District Attorney's Association. He's the retired Ventura County DA 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: and it's a big announcement today because he's going to 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: tell us how many signatures their committee. It was able 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: to collect to get this on the ballot, and this 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: would this would repeal, revise a good chunk of Prop 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: forty seven. Greg, how are you. 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: I'm terrific. Today's good day. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: It is a good day. Well, tell us how many 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: signatures you got. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: Over nine hundred thousand, which exceeds even what we have 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: projected to get to collect. So we are absolutely confident 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: that this measure will qualify and be on the November 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four ballots. 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: That is fantastic, That is great news. And I believe 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: you needed five hundred and forty six thousand, and so 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: you're you shot way past that. 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we took this very seriously, and I will tell 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: you John, Californians took it very seriously. There was tremendous 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: interest in signing this measure. Beyond the paid signature gatherers. 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: We also had a very robust group of volunteers who 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: probably when it's all said and done, will have collected 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: somewhere in the neighborhood of forty volunteer signatures, which reduces 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: our costs. So tremendous momentum going into November. 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I know a lot of if I listened 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: as showed up when we were in Orange County some 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: weeks back. I think we had thirteen hundred people that day. 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: We were at the Honda Center parking lot, so I 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: was really surprised at the crowd that showed up for 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: that in the middle of the day, you know, one 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon. All right, Explain to people who 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: aren't aware this thing. If it gets on the ballot, 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: if it passes, how does it change things? I know 52 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: it addresses three specific areas. Why don't you detail them 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: so newcomers can understand? 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: You bet? The first area is retail theft. We restore 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: the ability in California to prosecute people who repeatedly steal 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: for felamy. We also address smashing grabs. We have a 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: smash and grab enhancement to address these situations like we 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: all saw on TV involving Nordstroms, where a group of 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: a thieves stole more than three hundred thousand dollars worth 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: of merchandise in about ninety seconds. We also have an 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: enhancement in the theft area for people who act in concerts. 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: That's when two or more people get together to commit 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: a crime. We know that creates more risk of harm 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: to the public. The second component is to deal with 65 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: this rampant problem of drug addiction, homelessness, and open air 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: drug use and overdoses. We restore the ability to compel 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: people who have drug addiction issues into treatment by having 68 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: the potential consequence of a felony conviction. Our goal is 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: not to incarcerate them. Our goal is to get them 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: into treatment. And TOP forty seven Sadly, while it sought 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: to increase treatment and reduce jail time, it did the 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: latter very well, but unfortunately the incentive to go into 73 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: treatment has lessened, and many of those treatment programs are 74 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: really the demand for them has dramatically declined. So this 75 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: measure will encourage people with serious substance abuse issues to 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: go into treatment. And then, finally, we take a concerted 77 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: and thoughtful effort to deal with traffickers, particularly traffickers who 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: are selling poison to our children and to members of 79 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: the community, namely fentanyl that is a leading cause of 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: overdose here in California. It is, without exception, the most 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: dangerous drug I have seen in my forty years as 82 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: a prosecutor. So we provide for enhanced penalties for people 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: who sell large quantities of fentanyl. We also provide enhanced 84 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: penalties for people who are armed with a firearm and 85 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: selling fentanyl as well as well as other hard drugs. 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: That's what the initiative does and a kind of an 87 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: executive summary of it. But we are very optimistic that 88 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: once this is approved by the voters, it will profoundly 89 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 3: change things in California for the better. 90 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: Is there has any polling been done internally maybe about 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: the popularity of these of this entire referendum or the 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: specific tenets provisions. 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Yes, we conducted a very broad poll in November, really 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: at a time that there was not a lot of 95 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: discussion about this issue, and what we learned from that 96 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: pole is, first of all, right out of a shoot, 97 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: just looking at the ballot and title and summary, what 98 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: people would the only thing they read in the poll 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: was a ballot title in summary. Seventy percent of those 100 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: polls supported it with nothing more. Once you added the 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 3: issue of repeat retail theft and drug trafficking, it jumped 102 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: to eighty nine percent, and then when you added sentinel 103 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: to it, the polling jumped to ninety four percent. I 104 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: can tell you the pollster told me that in thirty 105 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: years of conducting such polls. There's only one other time 106 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: where she saw public opinion poll results as high as 107 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: she saw in our case. 108 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: The Democrats in the legislature are scrambling trying to put 109 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: together some kind of fake anti crime package, and they're 110 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: trying to fool people because you cannot revise Prop. Forty 111 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: seven except through the ballot process. You can't do it. 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: The legislature is not permitted to do any revisions. That's correct, right. 113 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Yes, that's largely correct, because many and leadership in the 114 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: legislature has said they do not want to amend Prop. 115 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: Forty seven. Prop forty seven, by the very plain language 116 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: in the initiative itself, requires that for any increase in 117 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: punishment that would be covered by the initiative, you have 118 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: to go back to the voters, and thus far the 119 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: vast majority of the legislative proposals seek to do it 120 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: solely through legislation, not through a ballot measure. I will 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: tell you the legislature does have the authority to put 122 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: a ballot measure on the ballot. They have until I 123 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: think it's June twenty seventh to do so. But right 124 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: now there does not seem to be any willingness on 125 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: their part to go that route. 126 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: The go ahead, go ahead, No, no, go ahead. 127 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: The coalition, the coalition that is behind this, it's not 128 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: it's not red or blue. It's a bipartisan coalition. It's 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: very broad, but people from social justice groups, people from 130 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: small business, large business, people from the safe community, very 131 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: huge and growing coalition. We stand ready to sit down 132 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: with the legislature and negotiate, but today we have not 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: been asked to negotiate anything, and I am not optimistic. 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: Well, just to clarify, to do this, what's in this referendum, 135 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: you would have to give it to the voters, right, 136 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: You couldn't absolutely, Okay, So no matter what you end 137 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: up negotiating, this still has to end up on the 138 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: ballot to get these kind of changes. 139 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: Well, and that's the key requirement. And if we can't 140 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: get by that requirement with the legislature, then they're not 141 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: serious about doing meaningful reform that actually improves lessons, retail theft, 142 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: improves the homelessness and drug addiction issue that we've got, 143 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: and deals with ethanol and john Just to be clear, 144 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: there have been no fewer than twenty proposals over the 145 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: last decade to modify or amen Proposition forty seven that 146 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: have all been killed in committees by the legislature. So 147 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: we've repeatedly tried through the legislature to change this law 148 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: and have been rebuffed consistently. 149 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: All right, Greg, what's the next milestone? You've you've counted 150 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: the statenature as you have over nine hundred thousand. 151 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: What's what's the next step? 152 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Well, the next step is the Secretary of State certification process. 153 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: What happens, John, is every county in the state, there's 154 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: fifty eight of those. Every county that receives five hundred 155 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: and more five hundred or more petitions signed petitions by law, 156 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: must do a random sampling of those petitions to check 157 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: for validation rates. Sometimes people sign these and they're not 158 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: registered to vote, or they have they've moved, have different addresses, 159 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: things of that sort. So they do that. They do 160 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: a three percent random sampling and come up with a 161 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: validation rate. Those validation rates from all fifty eight counties 162 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: are then submitted to the second Scretary of State. Secretary 163 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: of State develops a combined validation rate statewide and runs 164 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: that validation rate across the total raw count of petitions 165 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: that have been submitted. If that validation rate equates to 166 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten percent of the legally required number, 167 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: which is slightly more than six hundred thousand signatures. If 168 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: we reach that amount, then it's qualified and they don't 169 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: have to individually count every single petition. And I'll just 170 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: tell you we're completely confident that that is going to 171 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: be the situation in the case of the Homelessness, Drug 172 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Addiction and Deft Reduction Actor. 173 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: All right, Greg, this is terrific news. And please, as 174 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: soon as you learn anything more about the progress, formally 175 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: get it on the bout let us know, okay, and 176 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: we'll certainly be highlighting this all during the autumn. 177 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having us. We look forward 178 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: to talking to you more. 179 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Greg Totton, he's retired Ventura County District Attorney CEO 180 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: of the California DA's Association. Much more to discuss on this. 181 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: I can't tell you. I can't stress enough how important 182 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: this is. This is the Biggie and we'll get in 183 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: all the details. 184 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: Next. 185 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 186 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 4: six forty. 187 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Coming up at one point thirty mark Redelard from ABC 188 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: News on the on the Trump Trial. They lost two jurors, 189 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: they gave back two jurors today. It's it's not easy, 190 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: and Mark's going to explain what's been going on. Now 191 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: back with back to rather Greg Totten. Greg was just 192 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: on last segment with us and he is a retired 193 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: Ventura County District Attorney and he is the CEO of 194 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: the California District Attorney's Association and they are behind along 195 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: with other groups, this referendum, which looks like it it's 196 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: definitely going to get on the ballot. And this is 197 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: an earthquake. This is huge. For ten years we've been 198 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: telling you what a disaster of Prop forty seven has been. 199 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: You have seen it with your own eyes. The reason 200 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: for all the retail theft and the smashing grabs, and 201 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: a lot of the homeless people and all the drug 202 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: addiction in the street and a lot of the crime 203 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: is because of Prop forty seven. And you're gonna hear 204 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: a lot about it, especially on this show, because you're 205 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: not gonna see it in the La Times very much. 206 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: You're not gonna see it on TV very much. 207 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: So you got to come here to learn about what 208 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: this will do, How this is going to make life better? 209 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Fourteen Prop. Forty seven. 210 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: That is the original sin of all the misery that 211 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: we've suffered here in southern California ever since. It really is. 212 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: This was a Jerry Brown. This was Jerry Brown excrement. 213 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: And it was given a title in summary that was 214 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: completely fraudulent. You know who wrote that, La Harris choose 215 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: the Attorney General, bald face lie. The title in summary 216 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: was about it was called the Safe Schools and Neighborhood Act. 217 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: That's what that lady wrote, The Safe Schools and Neighborhood Act. 218 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Totally wrong to put it mildly. 219 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, what it did is it unleashed a huge wave 220 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: of homelessness, huge wave of drug addiction, a huge wave 221 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: of daily crime, especially retail theft, repeated retail theft by 222 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: the same people over and over again, and smash and 223 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: grab robberies and car thefts and burglaries and breakings into 224 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: your home. All that was unleashed by Jerry Brown and 225 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: Knilla Harris. It is the single most destructive bill that 226 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: I've seen in all my time in California. And I 227 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: don't know of a state that had won this bat 228 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: with with consequences. 229 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: This bad. 230 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: You saw that retail theft exploded. You saw that homelessness exploded, 231 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: drug addiction exploded. They they they whatever they sold to 232 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: us they were wrong about. I don't even think I 233 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: have I don't know if they really thought this would work, 234 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: or this is part of the way they wanted to 235 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: destabilize our our our state, just to destabilize our way 236 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: of life. I don't know how anybody in their right mind, 237 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: like Jerry Brown Kamila Harris could say, well, if we 238 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: don't force people into drug treatment, drug use is going 239 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: to go down. 240 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: How's that going to work? 241 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: If we stop prosecuting for retail theft, we stopped making 242 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: it a felony, retail theft will go down, and there's ludicrous. 243 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: So here's the deal, and these are the three things 244 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: you need to know why this is important. This revision 245 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: to Prop. Forty seven, and officially it's called the Homelessness, 246 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: Drug Addiction and Theft Reduction Act. It goes after serial 247 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: retail theft, organized theft, smashing grabs that become felonies, you 248 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: go to prison. Secondly, drug use is now there's a 249 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: fork in the road for anyone arrested on drug charges. 250 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Either take drug treatment or go to prison felony your choice. 251 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: Nobody has to go to prison. You have take drug treatment. 252 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: Which is the way it used to be. We used 253 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: to have felony retail theft. There was a lot less 254 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: retail theft. We used to have felony drug charges for 255 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: people using. We go back to that. We had a 256 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: lot less drug use. All this led to a lot 257 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: of homelessness. Third thing it does is it treats as 258 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: the poison it is. It will define it as a 259 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: hard drug and people convicted of trafficking fentanyl will go 260 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: to prison twenty percent. Twenty percent of all the youth 261 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: fatalities in California come from fentinil, and so drug traffickers 262 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: are going to be put in prison. So it's fentinyl 263 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: drug traffickers, it's drug users and possessions. Possessors have to 264 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: go to drug treatment. And then the retail thieves and 265 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: the smash and grab robbers they go to prison. Too simple, 266 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: and like you said, just the just the title and 267 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: summary got a seventy percent approval rating, and then you 268 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: add the details that it goes after retail threat, theft 269 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: and drug use got eighty nine percent. Approval rating. You 270 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: add fentanyl going after fentanyl dealers, it's got ninety four 271 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: percent approval rating. This absolutely will pass, although I'm sure 272 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to deal with an onslaught of lies 273 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: from the jackasses in the Assembly, State Senate and in 274 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: the Governor's. 275 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Office, the chief jackass. But we're up for the battle. 276 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: You should be too. We come back. 277 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: We're talking with Mark Remillard from ABC News the Trump Trial. 278 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: They lost to jurors, they gained two jurors. See where 279 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: we are now. 280 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 281 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: six forty. 282 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: On from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt 283 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Show on demand, the podcast, and you could listen to 284 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: what you missed. We're gonna talk with Mark Remillard now 285 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: from ABC News Trump Trial. And they're still trying to 286 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: get the jurors. Penel of twelve six alternates and they 287 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: started with seven. It dropped to five last I heard. 288 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: It's back to seven or maybe more or maybe less. 289 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. See they've been having some issues. Let's 290 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: get Mark on the line here. See what's going on. 291 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: Mark. 292 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, Hey, Hi John, how are you? 293 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: Hey? 294 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: Very good? 295 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm going to give you an update 296 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 5: right now that actually we've just gotten word that an 297 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 5: entire panel of twelve jurors has now been sat in 298 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: the case. 299 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Wow, on my right end, it was a seven. 300 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 5: I was literally two minutes ago. 301 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: I just got an email it was down to five 302 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: earlier today. 303 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's been an interesting day. We had a 304 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: day of setbacks early. Where as you mentioned there, we 305 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 5: had seven jurors seated. You needed five more regular panelists 306 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: and then six alternates, and we had two jurors removed 307 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 5: this morning. One was because she expressed concerns about her 308 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 5: identity being revealed. She said that she had been notified 309 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: or had some conversations with some colleagues and friends and 310 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: family who had kind of expressed that they thought somebody 311 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: could figure out who she was based on some of 312 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: the reporting that was out there, and so she expressed 313 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 5: concerns about that, and the court let her go. And 314 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: then shortly after that, prosecutors raised concern about another juror, 315 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: saying that they were concerned that he wasn't entirely forthcoming 316 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 5: on his questionnaire, particularly when asked about whether or not 317 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: he'd ever been arrested. Or had some criminal history. Prosecutors say, 318 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 5: presumably after doing a background check, that they said that 319 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: there was somebody with the exact same name who had 320 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: been arrested in Westchester, New York, which is just north 321 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: of New York City, had been arrested in the nineteen 322 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: nineties for tearing down political advertisements, and so they brought 323 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: that to the attention of the court. The court ended 324 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: up doing a sidebar with that juror. So we don't 325 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: know exactly what was said, and we don't know if 326 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: that really is the same person or not. But after 327 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: that sidebar, the judge decided to let that juror go. 328 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Well, now, do they have unlimited number of challenges to 329 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: jurors or at some point do both sides have to 330 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: accept the jurors that are presented. 331 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you have unlimited challenges for cause, right, which 332 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: is basically where and certainly the parties get to make 333 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 5: a case to the court to dismiss a jur that they. 334 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: Think has some issue. 335 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: We've seen this number of times already, where perhaps a 336 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 5: juror is up there and they're saying, you know, no, 337 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: I think I can be impartial, I think I can 338 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: be fair, and then maybe they've got some social media history, 339 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: though for example, we've seen that a few times where 340 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 5: somebody's Facebook posts from twenty eighteen or something like that 341 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: said some derogatory things about Trump, or mean things about Trump, 342 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 5: or maybe praise Donald Trump. On the opposite end, is 343 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 5: the possibility there too, And they would essentially point to 344 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: that and say, look, we think this is reason for 345 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 5: the court to dismiss this person. So whenever you have 346 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: a reason like that where it's for cause, that was unlimited. 347 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: But in terms of the preemptor peremptory strikes, which is 348 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 5: where basically you can dismiss the person for any reason 349 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 5: except for a few protected thinks like you can't discriminate 350 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 5: on the basis of sex or something like that. But 351 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: in those cases they had ten peremptory challenges. In this case, 352 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 5: and going into this morning, both sides had used, so 353 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: they only had four going into this morning. The court 354 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: had the option to give them more. But have not 355 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: heard that that's entirely what happened. And certainly we know 356 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 5: there was a panel of about eighteen or so just 357 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: a few maybe twenty minutes ago or so, and that 358 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: they were reviewing that, and certainly both sides were trying 359 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 5: to make a case that some of these jurys should 360 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: be removed for cause, and then we get work with 361 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 5: the panel seated. So it must have been either that 362 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: some of those were let go or not. And now 363 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 5: we've got a panel. So really, what's left to do 364 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 5: here is now get those six alternates on the panel. 365 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: I have read that there's two lawyers on the jury, 366 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: and I've always heard it said, and I don't know 367 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: if it was a joke. Is the last thing you 368 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: want as a prosecutor a defense attorney is a lawyer 369 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: on the jury because they know too much stuff? 370 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know. I think that's a kind of 371 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: common trope, and I think it's and there might be 372 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: some merit to that too. It might depend on the case, 373 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 5: but you're right, I believe one of them. I don't 374 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 5: have the details in front of me, but you're right 375 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 5: there were There is more than one jur juror on 376 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: the panel that was seated that are attorneys. And I 377 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: think that it just comes down to again whether or 378 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: not it's a tactic. Right, So if you're either on 379 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: Trump's team or you're on the prosecution, and you're looking 380 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: at this person and really, I think, at the end 381 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: of the day, do I want to try and unless 382 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: there's a compelling reason that you can convince the court 383 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 5: to remove this person for cause, and merely being a 384 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: lawyer is probably not going to pass that bar. I think, 385 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 5: then you have to make the decision is this worth? 386 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: Is this worth using a strike on? And I only 387 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 5: have ten Is this worth trying to get this person 388 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 5: off of the jury just because they're an attorney or 389 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: or not? And so it seems like obviously in those 390 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: two cases that probably wasn't worth doing it. And you know, 391 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine that on the other 392 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 5: end of things, perhaps you look at and say, well, 393 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: this person may have the ability to look at the 394 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 5: evidence in a certain way that we like. So I 395 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 5: can't explain why these sides decided to let these two 396 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: on there. But yeah, you're right, there's two people on 397 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 5: the panel right now who are attorneys. 398 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: The whole thing sounds like a complicated game show. 399 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very very complicated in very high stakes. 400 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Mark, thanks very much for coming on. 401 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 5: Thanks, John, appreciate it. 402 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: Mark Remolard of ABC News on the Trump jury selection. 403 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: ABC This Morning let me see, at the time they 404 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: published this, there were there were seven jurors and and 405 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: then you know, two disappeared, and now they're back up 406 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: to twelve. And they had an outline of each juror. 407 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: And this is what some of the jurors were complaining 408 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: about today, is that, hey, there's too much identifying detail 409 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: in these news stories. And the judge actually scolded the 410 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: media to use common sense and don't publish so much 411 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: identifying information. Obviously what wasn't names or necessarily ad you know, 412 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: or their hometowns. But you can get the idea from 413 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: reading these these outlines. And one woman told the court that, 414 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, I want off, so I want to go 415 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: through some of this stuff. You know, it's amazing just 416 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: how disconnected a lot of people are from the news. 417 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you're listening to this show, you're listening to KFI. 418 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: You're probably way above average in knowing what's going on 419 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: in the world. Most people really have no idea. And 420 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: there's certain issues, certain events that you think is absolutely 421 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: central to civilization, and you lap up every single detail 422 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: you can find. These people couldn't give a hoot. Let 423 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: me go through some of the jurors here It's hard 424 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: to do this when there's constant pop ups. You know, 425 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: every time I try to read off my iPad, I 426 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: get lots of pop up, some reboots. Thirty years of 427 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: this and they still can't streamline the process. 428 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: I love the one. 429 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Juror Number two said she didn't realize she could be 430 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: a juror in Trump's trial when she reported for duty 431 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: on Monday. I didn't know I was walking into this. 432 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 2: She's an oncology nurse, and she says she gets her 433 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: news from the New York Times, CNN, Google, and Facebook. 434 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: And when she was asked an opinion of Trump, I 435 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: don't really have one. You know, anybody does who doesn't 436 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: have an opinion on Trump? Let me see this person says, oh, 437 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: here we go. The jurre number three, he said he 438 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: was embarrassed to admit he was not familiar with all 439 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: the other trials against Trump. 440 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: And this guy has worked at two major law firms 441 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: in New York. 442 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: He's a corporate attorney, but he's not familiar with all 443 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: the allegations against Trump. I'm actually not super familiar with 444 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: the other charges. I don't really follow the news that closely. 445 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: A little embarrassing to say how about that a corporate attorney. 446 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Uh, let me see here. 447 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Juror five was the only potential juror who raised her 448 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: hand when asked if they had ever heard of Trump's 449 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: other criminal cases, the only one. All the other jurors 450 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: that were selected weren't aware that he's being tried in Florida. 451 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: He's been tried in Georgia's being tried in Washington, d C. 452 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: You know, for the insurrection crimes, or the classified files, 453 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: or the interfering in the election. These people never heard 454 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: of it except this woman. More coming up. 455 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 456 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: six forty. 457 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: Did you see the homes that the homeless people have 458 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: built along the one ten freeway not far from the 459 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: Arroyo Seco River near Highland Park. They built these pretty 460 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: sophisticated small homes. And what what I can't believe is 461 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: the media. What was this from is from Channel seven. 462 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: The report I'm looking at is they actually seem impressed 463 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: at the workmanship and the construction, and that has its 464 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: own light system and electricity. They're stealing the electricity. That's 465 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: not their electricity. Their thieves. They're committing a crime right 466 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: in front of the television reporter who seems impressed that 467 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: the lights are working. But we're going to talk with 468 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: Blake Trolley and he's going to explain what he's seen 469 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: with these makeshift homes right alongside the one ten and 470 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: if anything's going to be done about it, because certainly 471 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: the neighbors don't want to see this. I got just 472 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: a minute or two here. The US Supreme Court's about 473 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: to hear a case I said earlier in the hour 474 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: that you're going to look back on in April eighteenth, 475 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: and this whole week really as maybe the beginning of 476 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: better times in California because the rewrite to Prop. Forty 477 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: seven is very likely going to be on the ballot. 478 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: They got over nine hundred thousand signatures. I'll talk more 479 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: about that next hour. So that's a good thing because 480 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: that'll make retail theft and smash and grab a crime again. 481 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: It's going to make drug use a crime again. It's 482 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: going to force people into treatment, it's going to make 483 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: a fetanyl dealing a real serious crime. But at the 484 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: same time, the US Supreme Court is going to hear 485 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: a case that's going to have a major impact on 486 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: government policy on the homelessness situation for about six years now, 487 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: Politicians and bureaucrats have been hiding behind a Ninth Circuit 488 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: Appeals Court decision Johnson versus Grant's Pass, Oregon. There's also 489 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: a similar decision involving Boise, Idaho, where the appeals Court's 490 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: said that it's curling unusual punishment to punish somebody for 491 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: camping in a public space if the person has no 492 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: other shelter. It violates the Eighth Amendment, the ban on 493 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: curling unusual punishment, and has made it illegal for homeless residents. 494 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: It's made it illegal for the cities to move homeless 495 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: residents unless they have a room for them. Now, I 496 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: could get lost in the weeds on this, but what 497 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, based on my experience, firsthand experience with 498 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: certain politicians, is they use this as an excuse to 499 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: do nothing on homelessness. Not thing, because what you could 500 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: do is you could build some homeless shelters and then 501 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: you're legally allowed to move these people. What you could 502 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: do is every day at six am, wake them up 503 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: and tell them to move along. Because the protections were 504 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: only from nine pm to six am. That's what you 505 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: could do. You can't enforce law. As you can see, 506 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: some cities have no homelessness sleeping around because they built shelters. 507 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: It's not that expensive, it's not that hard. You don't 508 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: need to give them a rich Carlton room. You need 509 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: to give them a bed. And as long as there's 510 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: a bet available, that person has no right to sleep 511 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: in public, and he only has the right to do 512 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: that between nine pm and six am. And so the politicians, bureaucrats, 513 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: especially in Los Angeles intentionally, intentionally misunderstood this law because 514 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: they wanted to embrace the degradation that vagrants, drug addicts, 515 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: and mental patients bring to a community. That we all 516 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: must be punished for living in a capitalistic society, that 517 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: we must see up close, smell up close, how capitalism 518 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: doesn't really work for everybody, and we must endure some 519 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: of the burdens that they endure. 520 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: That's what these people really believe. 521 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, the Supreme Court, I hope, is going to overturn 522 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: the whole thing and we can go back to normal 523 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: life when we come back. Blake Trolley about the makeshift 524 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: homes that some people are building along the one ten 525 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: freeway in the Arroyo Seco River in Highland Park. People 526 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: are really impressed with the workmanship. We're going to talk 527 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: to Blake and we've got Ashley Johnson live in the 528 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 529 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the 530 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: show live on KFI Am six forty from one to 531 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime 532 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.