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Speaker 6: it's great to be with you with whatever voice I

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Speaker 6: have left. Sunday, July thirty first, twenty twenty two. It's

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Speaker 6: episode three fifty nine of the anti imploring podcast My

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Speaker 6: Man Can Flow. You're looking pretty pretty good today, I

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Speaker 6: believe your hat says Strawberry Hill. My first house was

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Speaker 6: on Strawberry Hill Road in Natick, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 6: So I'm still in Dallas. I'm staying here to do

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Speaker 6: some voiceover work today. But my first order of business

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Speaker 6: in terms of the voiceovers the anak Imploring podcast. It's

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Speaker 6: great to be here and this feels like an awfully

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Speaker 6: quick turn. So I'm excited to talk to you about

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Speaker 6: what was What was a wild night as they all

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Speaker 6: are at UFC two seventy seven Penya versus noon As two.

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Speaker 6: So as I understand that you maybe woke up today

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Speaker 6: and watched some of this fight card? Is that right?

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Speaker 6: I did? I did?

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: I woke up super early last night yesterday, about five am.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of a course this weekend, so

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Speaker 4: I was a little busy and I fell asleep during

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Speaker 4: actually right after the Anthony Smith Uncle I have fight.

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Speaker 4: I just I could couldn't take it anymore. So but

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Speaker 4: I watched it this morning, so it's fresh in my mind.

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Speaker 4: It is a great card. It was loud as hell.

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Speaker 4: It was in Dallas, man, unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: So are you watching that free of results or did

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Speaker 6: you know the results this morning as you watched.

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Speaker 4: I did not know the results this morning. I purposely

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Speaker 4: I saw some text from our guy Cody.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm not checking it until after I watched it,

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Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels like such a huge

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Speaker 7: win when you can not see anything result wise and

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Speaker 7: then actually wake up and watch the show.

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Speaker 6: And certainly to a lot of our international viewers, especially

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Speaker 6: in the UK, you have our eternal respect, right, I

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Speaker 6: mean a couple of guys nearing fifty who live on

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Speaker 6: the East coast of the United States, and yeah, we

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Speaker 6: have to wake up and watch these fights oftentimes, but

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Speaker 6: we respect all of you watching these fights live through

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Speaker 6: the night. Speaking of which, are you doing a seminar

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Speaker 6: in the UK or am?

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Speaker 2: I am? I right? I am.

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Speaker 4: I'll be stopping by some gyms and went while I'm

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Speaker 4: in the UK, So I'm excited about that. Be doing

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Speaker 4: some seminars for sure.

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Speaker 6: Very cool. All right, A lot to get to you

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Speaker 6: UFC seventy seven as Amanda Nunez exacts her revenge, and

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Speaker 6: I guess I would like to begin as I did

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Speaker 6: on the post show last night, with all the pressure

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Speaker 6: that was on Amanda Nunez, because there's a lot to

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Speaker 6: texting Dean Thomas, I'm done thinking long and hard about

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Speaker 6: retirement at thirty four years old, even though you see

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Speaker 6: how much fun she has competing. There's no way she's

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Speaker 6: I'm concerned. But for me, there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: When I think about modes of operation when it comes

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Speaker 4: but more than anything else, she was just more patient.

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Speaker 4: which were all positive signs, and she was able to

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Speaker 6: And when coaches like Roger Crawl suggest to me, you

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Speaker 6: she beat Felicia Spencer wall to wall, post to post.

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Speaker 6: I thought you could have argued for five ten eights,

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Speaker 6: even though people think I'm crazy trotting out of fifty

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Speaker 6: I counted five knockdowns in the first two rounds, and

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Speaker 6: Roger Crawl takes a lot of pride in that decision.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I thought it was a brilliant approach, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think our guy Sean Sheen had at fifty to

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Speaker 6: You know, I actually thought rounds three and four had

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Speaker 4: But as far as a legitimate, legitimate submission, it was

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Speaker 4: I think a tremendous amount. You know, when you're talking

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Speaker 4: And clearly Penya was in tremendous shape, as was you

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Speaker 6: So team Nonez and the establishment of Team Nonas it's

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Speaker 6: I don't know how much money Amanda Nunez has. I

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Speaker 4: That would be very interesting, and I think I know

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Speaker 6: Do you ever remember smiling in a mixed martial arts contest?

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Speaker 6: So congratulations to the Liones. Amanda Nunez quickly on the

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Speaker 6: I think she can.

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Speaker 4: I definitely think she can. It's gonna take some time.

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Speaker 4: Of course, those women have history, they've been training partners,

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: Kayla's next fight is August twentieth, same night as UFC

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Speaker 6: But August twentieth, we'd like you to watch watch the

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Speaker 6: Plyweight Championship goes to the Assassin Baby Brandon Moreno, one

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Speaker 6: of two bodykick knockouts at UFC two seventy seven. Your

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I knew this was going to be an

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Speaker 6: make what I believe are like kind of big changes

433
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Speaker 6: right like you saw times during the fight. Maybe he

434
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 6: did go back to the old school Brandon Moreno a

435
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 6: little bit and then was able to get himself back.

436
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Speaker 6: But I'm really impressed, you know, as the amateur mind

437
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 6: on this stuff that I really considered myself to be,

438
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Speaker 6: that they were able to make these type of strides

439
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 6: in a very short amount of time working together, I couldn't.

440
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Speaker 4: Agree with you more I think there's something to be

441
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: said John for having a fighter that is humble, having

442
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 4: a fighter that has had to work extremely hard to

443
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: get where he needs to get where he's at right

444
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: He Brandon Reno is not the guy that came into

445
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 4: the UFC, had these amazing fights, was perfect straight off

446
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 4: the bat. He's had to work very hard to be

447
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 4: as good as he is. Now, not to say, you know,

448
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 4: every fighter has to do a certain amount of work, right,

449
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: but you see, we've seen so many fighters coming to

450
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: the UFC get all these crazy wind streaks, experience little

451
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 4: to no volatility, and then we see them fall off

452
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: a cliff with moreno It's kind of been this like

453
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: slow rise, little bit of dips coming back up, a

454
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 4: little bit of dips coming back up. And now we

455
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: see this consistency in his game. And because of that

456
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 4: humble beginning, I think he's able to look at himself

457
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: and go, am I doing the right things? What do

458
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 4: I need to do to actually get better? And he

459
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: doesn't have all these yes men around him, And not

460
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: to go off on a tangent, but you know, I'm

461
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: seeing some of the things that Connor McGregor is doing.

462
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: Where when he came to the UFC, not only was

463
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 4: he a great fighter, but he was an innovator. He

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: was doing things that other people just simply were not doing.

465
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: And now seeing a Conor mac gregor just Again, this

466
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: is just seeing some of his training stuff where he's

467
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: regressing as a fighter, and that is troublesome to me.

468
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not seeing that same fluidity, that's same

469
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: kind of variety in what he's throwing at you. I'm

470
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 4: seeing actually a fighter that might be even more stiff.

471
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: So again, for Moreno, the fact that he's able to

472
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: not only identify, have the humility to identify his weaknesses,

473
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: be honest with himself, and then work hard to integrate

474
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: those things into his game is a testament to what

475
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: kind of martial artists, fighter, and man that he is.

476
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: And again this is Kai Carra France. He is a

477
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: problem man. He is tremendous and I think he will

478
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: be back and he will be better and he's gonna

479
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: learn from this. But I think he was a little

480
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 4: bit too tense and not quite ready experience wise for

481
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Speaker 4: the kind of Moreno that fought last night.

482
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Speaker 6: Yeah No, you put it beautifully. I mean we talked

483
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 6: a lot about that, Right, You're talking about almost an

484
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 6: hour and a half of Championship flight time between Brandon

485
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Speaker 6: Moreno and Davison fireto dating to that first meeting with

486
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Speaker 6: Kai Cotta France. I would also say on the Entrum

487
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 6: Gym front, you know, Brandon Moreno is very respectful about

488
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Speaker 6: all of this and to his former head coach Raoul Larvizu,

489
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: but he said, you know, it's still the best gym

490
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 6: in Mexico, no doubt about it. You saw what Michael

491
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 6: Morales was able to do. But this sort of rooted

492
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 6: during the last Figuretto training camp. I think there were

493
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 6: rumblings that maybe the coach wasn't always on time and

494
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 6: they weren't necessarily seeing eye to eye. So this was

495
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 6: an eventuality. And I asked Brandon Moreno would he have

496
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 6: left had he gotten the decision against Davison Figuretto, and

497
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 6: he paused. But I think manager Jason House kind of

498
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 6: chimed in and said the writing was on the wall.

499
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: I'm not going to spin it forward just yet on

500
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 6: Davison Figuretto because I want to get to all de

501
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 6: Chandre Pantoja in all of this, who needed just ninety

502
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 6: one seconds to spoil Alex Perez's return to the proving ground.

503
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 6: Pantosia is a fucking savage bro. Like literally he was

504
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 6: going in there to fight, like he only had three

505
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 6: minutes to get it done. Because if he's going to

506
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 6: get a title fight right on a night on which

507
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 6: they're putting a second belt in the division on the line.

508
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 6: He needed something like this right to have a guy

509
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 6: like me not even talk about the undisputed champ and

510
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 6: talk about Pantoja. So obviously he's a good backtaker, a

511
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: ton of rear naked chokes. This one was a neck

512
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 6: crank for Aleschandre Pantosia. What you make of his performance

513
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 6: on what was a huge knife for the brazil.

514
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: Spicy, Spicy is the first word that comes to mind.

515
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: Pantosia was in a hurry to get the hell out

516
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: of there, man, That's what it looked like. And again,

517
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: this is his strength and it's also his weakness. That

518
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: is a risk. That is a risky thing to do again,

519
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: especially against you know, a good fighter like Perez. But

520
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: he ended up moving forward, landing some good shots. I

521
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: don't think Perez was ready for that tempo, for that

522
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: kind of rhythm, for that kind of aggressiveness. It threw

523
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: him off. You see, Pantosa kind of went forward and

524
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: not the best of takedown, but it was good enough

525
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: that it forced Perez to turn his back and from there,

526
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: Pantosia is not going to forgive a fighter for those

527
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: kind of mistakes. He jumped on the back off of

528
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: that scramble, uh, and then it was pretty much all over.

529
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: Pantosia has so much energy, especially early on.

530
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

531
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Speaker 4: You could see he was trying to make a big

532
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: statement and let everyone to know in that division that hey,

533
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: I'm around two, I deserve a shot. He looked fantastic.

534
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: It was a great win, just a great timing in

535
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 4: his career as well.

536
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: All right, So, Alesandre Pantosia, as some of our viewers

537
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 6: and listeners may know, has two head to head wins

538
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 6: over Brandon Moreno, one of them in the UFC and

539
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 6: one of them by finish on The Ultimate Fighter. Brandon

540
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: Moreno has never been finished as a pro because that

541
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 6: Pantosa's submission loss is an exhibition vout that is not

542
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 6: on his professional records. So the foundation for a fight

543
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 6: between Pantosia and Moreno is already there. But of course,

544
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 6: now in all likelihood we will get Brandon Moreno and

545
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 6: Davison Figuretto for a fourth time. I was told during

546
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: fight week that psychologically Figuretto had kind of moved on

547
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 6: from this Moreno chapter and really didn't have the appetite

548
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 6: nor motivation necessarily to fight the guy for consecutive times.

549
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Speaker 6: So I do believe, if I can say it, that

550
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 6: Figuretto was hoping that Kay Conta France would win fight,

551
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 6: but it said, it looks like it's gonna be these

552
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 6: guys and maybe with a Brazilian backdrop for a for

553
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 6: a fourth meeting.

554
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 4: That's the fight.

555
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: Man.

556
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: Again, I think both of those both of those guys

557
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: have injected so much life into that division because they're

558
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: so damn good and the manner in which they fight

559
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 4: is so exciting.

560
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: Uh.

561
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: They have so many skills in so many different areas.

562
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: They're both really aggressive, They're both capable of finishing fights

563
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: at a high level. Uh, that's the fight to make,

564
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: and both guys, you know, want this. I thought both

565
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: guys showed their respect for each other last night.

566
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: You know.

567
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 4: I think they've both been promoting that fight and both

568
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: been trying to get in each other's heads. Yeah, but

569
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 4: at the same time, I think both understand very well

570
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 4: that they could both lose that fight, which makes it

571
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: all the more exciting. So again, I could watch those

572
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: guys fight again and again. That whole division is stacked.

573
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: Kai Car France will be back as well. He'll be

574
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: injected back into the mold as well as is. You know,

575
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 4: you guys got like Pantosia and other fighters that are

576
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: just awesome, and it's super technical.

577
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: In that defeat. And I know Davison Figuretto can be

578
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 6: a little bit polarizing. I have nothing but good things

579
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: to say about the man, you know. I mean, at

580
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 6: times maybe he stepped out of character a little bit

581
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 6: to try to build fights, But as far as I'm concerned,

582
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: he's a He's a really good, thoughtful dude. All right,

583
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 6: what'd you make of the feature about it? Heavyweight Sergey

584
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 6: Pavlovich over the Black Beast Derek Lewis. I mean, more

585
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 6: talk about the stoppage than the Pavlovitch performance, and I

586
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 6: think in some part that is unfortunate. I guess my

587
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 6: thesis statement on Dan Mrgliata, who I believe to be

588
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 6: a pretty good referee, is is you just got to

589
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 6: give it a beat. I know, the visual of Derek

590
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 6: Lewis being down face first is not a good one,

591
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 6: and perhaps he did save him from some concussive damage

592
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: and from being made you know, unconscious unconscious, But uh,

593
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I guess I just feel like

594
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 6: sometimes these referees like get a little bit hannicky in

595
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 6: the moment, and it felt like Derek Lewis especially deserved

596
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 6: to beat. And even though Dan doesn't know how Derek

597
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 6: is going to react after the fact, I think his

598
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 6: response suggests that a lot of those shots did miss.

599
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: I know Markleida has not privted the replays, but you know,

600
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sit here and say it was a

601
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: bad stoppage, but it was certainly premature in my mind.

602
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure. That really wasn't the sense that

603
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: I had when I was watching it as far as

604
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: me being upset about the stoppage. Was it a bit early? Potentially? Yeah?

605
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: Was I mad at it? Not necessarily why because listen,

606
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis, First of all, these are both heavyweights. These

607
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: aren't flyweights. Right going at it, the potential for damage

608
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: on follow up shots from the heavyweight is significant, and

609
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: they are significant. And again, this is a Derek Lewis

610
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: that fell forward to me, which wasn't a good sign.

611
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: The problem is we've seen him do this in the

612
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 4: past and kind of get back up and rally. But

613
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I didn't have a major problem with it.

614
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: But for for Derek Lewis, he was eating shots that

615
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: I thought weren't very helpful. His body language wasn't helpful

616
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: to the situation. He kind of crumbled to all fours,

617
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: which didn't look good. Y Pavlovitch was was was throwing

618
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: some hard combinations. Yes some of them were missing, but

619
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: he was staying aggressive, which gave the indication that he

620
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: was only going to follow up with more damage and

621
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: more power and more speed. Uh So, this was not

622
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: a great performance for Derek Lewis, who unfortunately lost in

623
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: his home state again. And Derek is as tough as

624
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: they come, you know, he's always dangerous, but this was

625
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: not a good result for him. He looked way slower,

626
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: way more hesitant anyway in my mind as I watched

627
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: these guys fight, and to me, this is kind of

628
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: again yet another example of Derek Lewis just being inconsistent

629
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: throughout his career. He's extremely unpredictable. You know, if you're

630
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: trying to bet Derek Lewis, man, uh, it's it's tough

631
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: because there's certain moments where you're like, Derek Lewis can

632
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 4: knock out anyone in the world and there's performances like

633
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: this where you're like, did Derek Lewis even show up? Right?

634
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's lost three of his last four, and uh,

635
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: I think you hit on a lot of inconvenient truths

636
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: from him for him as far as that fight in

637
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: his career, especially of late, is concerned. All right, Now,

638
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 6: joining us after a week off is the great Ray

639
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: Longo burning it at all ends. Repping today. My twin

640
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: brother is here to my immediate left and he says

641
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 6: you were on extra rounds deep into the night. Is

642
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: that true?

643
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's absolutely a fabrication of the truths. Okay,

644
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: all right, I'm joking. I confess I was on.

645
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 6: All right, Well, we found out what they're paying you,

646
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 6: and uh, let us just stay on behalf of all

647
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Speaker 6: in LLC Mark Jackson the mail, now, okay.

648
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm smelling. Oh man, I smelled money.

649
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 4: Holy could he cheats on us and we send him

650
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: a check? I mean, he's got a good gig going on.

651
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: He told me not.

652
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 8: Wait, I'll read the text message I wanted to do.

653
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 8: I was up for the waves, right, Cody.

654
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: I have a little bit of a bone to pick

655
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: with Cody off the air because long ago and I connected,

656
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 6: and Ray suggested that he did offer himself up Cody

657
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 6: on the show at like eight a m. Pacific last week.

658
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: I just know was this guy?

659
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I talked to him before that. I said,

660
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: John sent me a message saying take off because you're

661
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: going to be away and it'll be too early. And

662
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: I said, let's see what happens. I mean by no

663
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: one replied to me.

664
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you guys know, no, but I got fucking stonewalled.

665
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 6: So you know, I guess that's neither here nor there.

666
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 6: But you didn't sleep very many hours?

667
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: Right?

668
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: You got off their correct, isn't it right? What are

669
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 6: you laughing at?

670
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: I think it's funny. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I got

671
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what time I got off.

672
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 6: It's it's there to say you don't like the mornings though.

673
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 2: Oh fairness, that's one hundred percent. Yeah all right.

674
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 6: So you know, I love when I get the Ray

675
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 6: Longo text during fight night. And I think you hit

676
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 6: on the right verb for Dan Murgliata in this fight.

677
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: If we could just bring you into this conversation, I

678
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: do think he panicked a little bit, but in real time,

679
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 6: largely I do lean a little bit towards Ken flow

680
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 6: side in terms of the face first visual not being

681
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 6: a great one in that moment for Derek.

682
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think you have to know your fighter

683
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 8: is and Derek Louis is a guy that could change

684
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 8: that fight with one punch.

685
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: We've seen it before and if.

686
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 8: You know, like I think so, I think somebody saw

687
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 8: on the brook Kiss said, you know he doesn't have

688
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 8: you know, the instant replay to look at a lot

689
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 8: of the punches missed.

690
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: The guy stands in two feet, he's right there.

691
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: Under the bus.

692
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Wait mine, do we have to go to instant replaying

693
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: now to see if a guy's getting it? Is that

694
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: what you guys were.

695
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 6: Saying, Well, it's hard, even as a commentator to see

696
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: the extent to which those strips are landing in real time.

697
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: I've said a million times on this show. You guys

698
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 6: both have a keener eye than I do. But come on, man,

699
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 6: I mean being thrown like that in real time, it's

700
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: hard to see that.

701
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: Listen, wait, wait, wait, wait without a doubt. Uh And

702
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm all even leaned towards Kenny.

703
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 8: Look, it wasn't a good visual, the optics were horrible,

704
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 8: but he did bound he unequivocally wasn't hurt.

705
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: He bounced right back up. I mean yet, no doubt

706
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: about it. You needed you needed another second or two

707
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: to make the decision.

708
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 6: It wasn't Dan out of the referee in check Congo

709
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 6: versus Pat Barry.

710
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you.

711
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 6: Talk about extremes.

712
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that could and that could have easily

713
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 8: been another one of those fights that guy bounces up

714
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 8: and throws a haymaker and the fights turned around to complete.

715
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 8: You know, if Derek Lewis hits him once, that guy's

716
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 8: probably not getting back up. But you know, so I was, uh,

717
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 8: you know, I think you got I know your fighter

718
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 8: is man, you know what I mean. But the optics

719
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 8: were no good and yeah either way, I mean, it

720
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 8: wasn't like it's just maybe its hindsight is twenty twenty.

721
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 8: I don't know, but it didn't look that good.

722
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: So when you do extra rounds, does that mean you

723
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: have to watch all thirteen fights.

724
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I only saw, But honestly, I only saw probably eight

725
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: fights last night, the main card plus.

726
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: So what are your thoughts on cat Amanda nude as?

727
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on Amanda noon As, the camp change,

728
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: the response in the rematch, everything about her performance last night.

729
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say hats off to abandon noon is. I

730
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 8: I picked Paynya to win the fight. I thought Paynya

731
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 8: was gonna win. But Kenny, I tell you what that

732
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 8: switched the South for. She couldn't get They had no

733
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 8: answer for the check cook. There was not one bit

734
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 8: of advice to help her out. It was like, it's

735
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 8: an easy fix. First of all, you throw the right hand.

736
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 8: That's when you're getting hit with the check cook. But

737
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 8: there was no head movement, there was no let attack

738
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 8: the body with kicks.

739
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: How about this?

740
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 8: How about you know, I mean, if I'm if I'm Payne,

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 8: I just switched south for myself. I'll take away to

742
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 8: check cook just by going.

743
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: South with it. I mean, like, we don't know what

744
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: Amanda Nonas could have did defensively to anything, because they

745
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: had a game plan for when she steps in with

746
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: that right hand.

747
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 8: She was getting hammered with the check hook. And that

748
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 8: was to me, that was the whole fight. She had

749
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 8: no answer for the check hook. And you know, she

750
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 8: got hit so hard that by the time she started

751
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 8: even you know the I mean like the you know

752
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 8: you're into the fight, she's already been hit a.

753
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: Lot, demoralized a little.

754
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 8: Well, I don't even know about the moralized, because I

755
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 8: think again, Paynia unbelievable heart and determination because she had

756
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 8: no answer and she was still going forward and trying,

757
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 8: which hats off to her.

758
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: But to me, the whole fight is no answer for

759
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: the check cook and that's it.

760
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, she just did nothing to count

761
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 8: that absolutely, Ray, I think that's a due point.

762
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, their response was a very rudimentary and

763
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: basic approach. It's like, oh, just clinch. They're in south Sea,

764
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: when she's in South Paul, just going clinch. Oh and

765
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: by the way, watch out for the lead hand. It's like, okay, well,

766
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: how do I need to watch out for the lead hands?

767
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: How do I need to go about the clinch? You know,

768
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 4: you need to give your fighter a little bit more.

769
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: And not only that, not only on fight night, but

770
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: it seemed like they were not prepared for that at

771
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: all during the camp. But of course that was kind

772
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: of a late switch. But to me, I mean that

773
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: that was a surprising tactic that they just didn't have

774
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: an answer for. And I think Ray is absolutely on point.

775
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: That was a critical, uh moment for me. In the

776
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 4: fight where it was like basically lost at that point.

777
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they definitely were not prepared for it this

778
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 6: time around. You heard Rick Little invoke the Valentina Chevchenko

779
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 6: fight in the corner of Juliana saying, remember when we

780
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: were prepping for Chefchenko, by the way, was twenty fifteen.

781
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 6: I mean, that's not going to help you much in

782
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, you know. And I have a lauded

783
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 6: that corner, right and that coaching team, Mike Valley and

784
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 6: Luis Claudio and Rick Little and Gregory and everybody else.

785
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean Rick Little will be the first

786
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 6: to tell you they were not prepared for that pivot

787
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: by noons. And credit to Roger Crawl because I think

788
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 6: he was the impetus sport.

789
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one hundred percent. You know, that was

790
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: something different that they didn't make the adjustment for. So

791
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: hats off to.

792
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 8: Amanda noon Is and she you know, look, in boxing,

793
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 8: it was always the definition of a like a great

794
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 8: fighter is somebody who comes back to beat the person

795
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 8: that took away their title and come back. I mean

796
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 8: like Sugar Ray Robinson did that, and maybe a couple

797
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 8: other guys. But she she's She's the best female fighter

798
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 8: period at this point, no matter what happens in the future,

799
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 8: you know, with with her Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't

800
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 8: think she was gonna have to like the uh still

801
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 8: the hunger to.

802
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 6: Do what she did.

803
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: She was that was that was impressive.

804
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 6: Kenny, My recall is not great, but you know, if

805
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: a fighter switches stances with any sort of regularity, I

806
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: have that note on my fighter card, and it's hard

807
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 6: for me to think about a lot of instances in

808
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 6: which Amanda Nunas has gone self on her career. You know,

809
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 6: I don't know.

810
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she has done it, but it really

811
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: hasn't been a common thing. It's been extremely rare and

812
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: certainly not staying in that stance she did last night.

813
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: And I think, Ray, I'm curious to get your take

814
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 4: on this. You know, John and I were talking about

815
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: it earlier. To me, this is more of a dominant

816
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: way of beating someone than going out there and like

817
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: I think, if Nuna's went out there and starched Panya

818
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: in round one, that would have almost been less impressive

819
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: than what she did over the course of twenty five minutes.

820
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

821
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll agree with that. Because there was a you

822
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: could see, Look, Penya, what she did the first fight

823
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: was fantastic.

824
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 8: She ate a couple of punts, she went foe would

825
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 8: she put the pressure on? She gassed around. But in

826
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 8: this fight you could see a big technical advantage in

827
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 8: the striking just because she was patient. Listen, if Payne

828
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 8: didn't come forward, Kenny, I bet you Noonas would have

829
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 8: switched back, you know what I mean.

830
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: She it was just a counter technique. That was it,

831
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

832
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 8: And man, and you know, you gotta remember now you

833
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 8: put your dominant hand in front.

834
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: So she didn't have much more after that.

835
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 8: I don't think, you know, maybe the high kick with

836
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 8: the left leg, but I know when guys switched they

837
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 8: do a couple of things good, but defensively they're not

838
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 8: the same as they are on the other side. So

839
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 8: there was so many adjustments I think that could have

840
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 8: been made for that. What about just going for the

841
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 8: lead leg for a takedown. It's right in front, you

842
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. Can she defend the takedown on

843
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 8: that side?

844
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know. We never

845
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: got to find out because it was the same thing

846
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: over and over again.

847
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 8: Rushing in and huss stepping back and whacking you with

848
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 8: her power hand, which is now out of check hook.

849
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: And it was it was brutal, but you're right.

850
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 8: You could see the difference now in technical striking because

851
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 8: you know, Juliana still has to work on that. She

852
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 8: kind of runs forward, you know, pushing up punches a

853
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 8: little bit. But wow, I and I and uh and again.

854
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 8: I picked Juliana to win. I thought it was going

855
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 8: to be another fight where she took some damage, but

856
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 8: she was able to impose a will.

857
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: On her eventually.

858
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 6: Juliana's daughter is Sa Cruz, was sitting in Dana White's

859
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 6: seat for that fight, and you know, I want to

860
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 6: acknowledge our CEO, Hunter Campbell and Dana because they were

861
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: sort of making sure that she was okay, and East

862
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: was totally unfazed watching you know, her mother's forehead get

863
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 6: split open. I actually felt worse for Reagan Nunez, who

864
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 6: was falling asleep backstage. And I love Nina. By my

865
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 6: inner monologue, is there anyone who could take the child

866
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 6: home to fucking go to bed right now?

867
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: But she's got to stay on that schedule.

868
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, matter of fact, let me make a note I'm

869
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 8: gonna cool child protective services.

870
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: I will say, like as when she gets older, she's

871
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: gonna have all of these amazing memories. Oh yeah, it's

872
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 6: hard to just you know, I have three kids ten

873
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: and under, So for me, I'm just like grandparents somewhere

874
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 6: they could take the child.

875
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, they're gonna be tough kids when they grow up.

876
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 8: I can guarantee you that nothing.

877
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, be soft, it'd be Is there a word

878
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: below soft? Because it's not even funny. But I should

879
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: have did that.

880
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: It should have did that, should have done that?

881
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: I think we should have done that. Tomato tomato, potato potato?

882
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: What let's pull on Eliab. I'm not going to talk

883
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: about Buffer's pronunciation, okay I am.

884
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean, come on the.

885
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 6: Guys one eight straight in the UFC. Listen Colliev's come on, are.

886
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: You gonna bust the buff Woolves after fifty years of

887
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: service where he's probably.

888
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 8: Never made, he's never had a hit, he's never had

889
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 8: a hair out of place when he's announced, and now

890
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 8: you're attacking the guy.

891
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: He's one of my best friends.

892
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: There. Don't go after my friend.

893
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably shouldn't. Someone said to me that obviously,

894
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 6: he's so great and legendary, and I think he is

895
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: worlds above Michael Buffer and any other ring announcer. Of course,

896
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 6: like he's the goat. There's no doubt about him. Someone

897
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 6: said to me recently, like it doesn't even matter if

898
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 6: he mispronounced as a name, right, because that's not what

899
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 6: his whole thing is about. And part of me would

900
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 6: really vehemently and respectfully disagree with that. Right. But magamed

901
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 6: Uncle Eliath over Anthony Smith by TKO in round two.

902
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 6: Can flow Anthony Smith pulling up lame with an injury.

903
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 6: That's a part of the narrative, which I guess takes

904
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 6: away from what Uncle Liab was able to do to him.

905
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 6: Dana said at the postfight press conference, there was no

906
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 6: fracture in the leg of Anthony Smith. Your thoughts on

907
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 6: that fight for as long as it lasted, Ken Flow.

908
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: Well, Anthony Smith was was fighting very hard. I just

909
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: think that on Caliab his physical abiliity, these were kind

910
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: of head and shoulders above Anthony. Anthony's not inssily known.

911
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: He's a big guy, but he's not instially known as uh,

912
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, the fastest guy or the most agile guy, right,

913
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, as an athlete, I think aunt Calia was

914
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: just at a different level. And I think that I again,

915
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if Anthony Smith came in with it

916
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: with some kind of an injury in this fight, But

917
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: to me, when he was on his back, un caliab

918
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: was kicking this ship out of his ankles. Uh so

919
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: ankle I have, but yeah, he was just but he

920
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: was kicking. No, he was kicking those damn legs. And

921
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: you could see when Anthony went to get up he

922
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: started limping, and I think, uh, that damage, which a

923
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 4: lot of times people are like, oh, that's just kind

924
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 4: of like on the surface stuff that really doesn't hurt.

925
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: Those leg kicks can hurt, and if it hits you

926
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 4: in the wrong spot, it can do some serious damage.

927
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: So to me, it seemed like that was what led

928
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: to that injury. So it seemed like it was a

929
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: direct result of what un Calia was doing. But even

930
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 4: on the feet, he just seemed really sharp. He's very fast.

931
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: Anthony Smith was trying his best to take the fight

932
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: to the ground and utilize that kind of strategy as

933
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 4: an adjustment to what happened his to his ankle. And

934
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, Anthony is just as tough as they come.

935
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 4: He did his best, but Uncliave was just a little

936
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: bit too much as a result of that injury. It

937
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: was just too much for Anthony Smith to overcome.

938
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and what what exactly was the injury?

939
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: John, Well, we don't know, but it was his ankle, right,

940
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 6: his ankle was damaged or something.

941
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: Talks about it. Yeah, Okay.

942
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 6: He turned to us and he was like, I broke

943
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: my leg. But at least Dana was told by somebody

944
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 6: in PR at the post fight press conference that there

945
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: was no fracture. But I guess we'll see what the

946
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 6: diagnosis is. But yeah, we'll see what happens with Uncliab.

947
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: You know, I'm a big Jamal Hill supporter, and he

948
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 6: has a big opportunity against Thiago Santo's coming up this weekend.

949
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 6: I do believe, given that Golover to Share was seconds

950
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 6: away from retain his light heavyweight title, that they are

951
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 6: going to rematch him and Uri pro Hosca. I think

952
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 6: at Madison Square Garden in November potentially, which would be

953
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 6: sort of a home game and a nice way for

954
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 6: Glover to potentially go out. But you also don't want

955
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 6: Glover to win the belt and then retire, right, You're

956
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 6: not looking for that situation. So we'll see Uncle I

957
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 6: I have likely a win away and Pantosia I think

958
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 6: you can say the same. You know Dana acknowledging that

959
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: they both are pretty close. So anything else on the

960
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: main car before I get to some of these prelims.

961
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 6: Did you guys see the heavyweight fight between Homdi of

962
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 6: Del Wahab and Dantel Mays? Please tell me you did?

963
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Did?

964
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 6: That was a great fight?

965
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 4: Camp?

966
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: Well?

967
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: No, I mean I enjoyed the hell out of that, dude.

968
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. Homdy is quite a prospect.

969
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: Man.

970
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: I would never in a million years think that a

971
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 4: guy you know who's that big could move in that way.

972
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: He is super athletic. Man, moves extremely well and for

973
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: a guy with that kind of experience in mixed martial arts,

974
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: he is fighting way above and what what you would expect.

975
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 4: So he's a tremendous athlete. And you know that because

976
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: you know he obviously was in the Olympics in twenty

977
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 4: sixteen in wrestling.

978
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

979
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: Man, uh that guy, Uh, I see him doing some

980
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: big things in the heavyweight division.

981
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: Man.

982
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: He he is a tremendous wrestler. He was hitting some

983
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: beautiful takedowns that got DC all excited. So uh, I

984
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: really enjoyed that fight. And it was back and forth.

985
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 4: He showed his toughness very early on in his career.

986
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: He had to battle back from some serious adversity. What

987
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: a fight, and and that is someone to watch for sure.

988
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: He's in He's in rear form today. Man. You know,

989
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: I feel like the kid in the class who.

990
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 8: Didn't do his homework, didn't read the chapter, you know,

991
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 8: and he's just smirking at me, waiting to waiting for

992
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 8: me to have to admit that.

993
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 6: Look at oh so on your on your little extra

994
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 6: rounds program. You guys don't talk about Hoby.

995
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: Him the no.

996
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 6: I gotta say, Man, this dude was five and oh right.

997
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 6: Two of his fights were bare knuckle right, but they

998
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 6: were fought under the unified rules, so they get counted

999
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 6: as MMA wins. But to be able to go the

1000
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: full fifteen minutes, you know, I thought Brian right in

1001
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: his corner, did a really nice job. I'm with you,

1002
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 6: Ken Flow. I mean, this is a legitimately intriguing injection

1003
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: of talent into the heavyweight division, and I thought Dantel

1004
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 6: Mays did a lot of good things defensively and was

1005
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: very much present and in that fight. And he's made

1006
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: great strides in terms of the details and his strength

1007
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: and conditioning. So I'm excited to see what those guys

1008
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 6: can do. We will have more on UFC two seventy

1009
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 6: seven on the back end. But now joining us on

1010
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 6: the back end of the Ray Long Minute. It's a

1011
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 6: handsome guy right here, one along those most promising students

1012
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: crashing his Ray Long Minute today. You might have seen

1013
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: him with a big win on Dana White's Contender series

1014
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: last Tuesday. He did not receive a contract. However, Dennis

1015
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 6: Bezuka is with us. Good morning, my man.

1016
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: How are you warning my people?

1017
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: How are you guys doing well? Man?

1018
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: We to have you on the show.

1019
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: It's great to be here, man, this is amazing.

1020
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: It's a lot of boy here on the program. Man.

1021
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: Wait, let me ask you, John, when you saw Dana

1022
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: was he over that roid rage he had? Did did

1023
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: you get it? We gotta get him off that ship.

1024
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Man.

1025
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: That that that roid rage? That was That was bizarre?

1026
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: Come on, man, so.

1027
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: What happened? What happened?

1028
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: Ray?

1029
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 6: You gotta explain that.

1030
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 8: It's one hundred percent worth going back and looking at

1031
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 8: I'll be honest, you know it was about I tell

1032
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 8: you John in the back. We were in the back

1033
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 8: during that first fight, and I swear to God, I'm

1034
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 8: going now, Joe, this is not good because these two

1035
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 8: guys are putting their hands up like they did something

1036
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 8: they ain't just gonna go.

1037
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna go, ape Ship. I knew it in the back.

1038
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: I knew it the first fight. You know. That's why

1039
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I was trying to employ.

1040
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 8: Him on You got to knock the guy out, like

1041
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 8: we got to get out of here with a knockedout.

1042
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 6: Or you know, well through no lack of effort. And

1043
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 6: let me set it up a little bit for people

1044
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: that haven't seen the win by Dennis on Dana White's

1045
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 6: Contender series. So your first appearance on the show twenty twenty,

1046
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 6: you lost to Melsick Bognasari and who, by the way,

1047
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 6: has not lost in the UFC since. But you've won

1048
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 6: four in a row, my man, and you know that

1049
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 6: includes your second appearance on the show last Tuesday. Most

1050
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 6: of the assembled media and the general public thought your

1051
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: performance was worthy of a UFC contract. You beat a

1052
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 6: very good wrestler by unanimous decision. You know, I know

1053
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 6: how you feel about your performance because of your tweets,

1054
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 6: I think you're being a little bit hard on yourself.

1055
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 6: But what were your thoughts on that performance and ultimately

1056
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 6: where you stand right now.

1057
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 5: I mean, we knew he was a wrestler. I came

1058
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 5: out and to knock his head off. You know, every

1059
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: shot I was thrown was to knock him, was to

1060
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: knock him out. But he, you know, his game plan

1061
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 5: was the tire me out and wrestled me. It was

1062
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 5: I'm very frustrated with myself too on the fight because

1063
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: I'm always.

1064
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: Looking for the finish. I'm always critiquing myself. But he came.

1065
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: He he stalled a lot.

1066
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: It's still it's on me to really, you know, do

1067
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 5: what I have to do to get off the cage

1068
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 5: and and finish the fight. At the end of the day,

1069
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 5: it's on me. It's no one, no one to blame

1070
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 5: but myself. I don't blame Dana for being frustrated. It's

1071
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 5: it's the show. It's what it's about. It's excitement, and

1072
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: but I think I came exciting.

1073
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: I put on a show.

1074
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 5: I was always looking to to finish and to strike

1075
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 5: and to even at the grappling.

1076
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: I was looking to take him.

1077
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: Down that time. I took him down to the third

1078
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: round to I took him down. I wanted to finish

1079
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: him with the ground and pound, and I was not

1080
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 5: trying to stall by any means. I was always looking

1081
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 5: for the finish, even though until the last second, I

1082
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 5: was trying to throw hard ground and pounds. So it's

1083
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 5: just very frustrating the way the way that whole thing happened.

1084
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: I was telling Ray, if this was a UFC fight,

1085
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: we'd just be celebrating right now.

1086
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, John, I'll say, that's the weirdest thing. You get

1087
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 8: at W and you're you're miserable, you're actually missing you know.

1088
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 8: It's a crazy emotional right But you know I, you know,

1089
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 8: when I was talking alt you before I go out, Joe,

1090
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 8: this is like a day before, right, So we're not

1091
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 8: coaching for for a W.

1092
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: We're coaching to get him on the show.

1093
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 8: And I don't want to coach like that, you know,

1094
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 8: because you don't want to make mistakes and you don't

1095
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 8: want to you know, like you have to come out

1096
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 8: of yourself a little bit. I thought he did enough

1097
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 8: where you could see he could compete in the UFC,

1098
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 8: and that's all that. You know, I think should have madded.

1099
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 8: But I think he got lumped in with a couple

1100
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 8: of those other fights and that was that was it,

1101
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 8: you know, and and and again. You know, I do

1102
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 8: understand Dana, I get where he's coming from, but it

1103
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 8: kind of you know, Kenny, it's like when they call

1104
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 8: the fighters into those meetings at the wig ins and

1105
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 8: they leave the coaches and the managers out. I mean,

1106
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 8: I think that's for a reason, because they try to

1107
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 8: rile everybody up, and the coaches are going.

1108
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: To go, that's fucking stupid, man. Just get the you know,

1109
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: like you got to fight smart at the end of

1110
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: the day, right, you know.

1111
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: And it takes it takes two fighters to do that.

1112
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Without it, it takes you can't dictate.

1113
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: What the other guy across from you're supposed to do.

1114
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: Right he's a wrestler, he's going he's going to resort

1115
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 4: to that. And and the UFC every once in a while,

1116
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 4: even the most of the fighters in the world are

1117
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: going to have a stinky fighter or not an exciting

1118
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: fight every single time out.

1119
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 8: You just can't do that, guess guess who wouldn't have

1120
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 8: got on the show, Al Joe with his win over Yon.

1121
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: He would have been thrown out right, you know what

1122
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, this is where it gets crazy.

1123
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 8: So I get, I one hundred percent understand Dani's baught,

1124
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 8: but I you know, for Bazooka, you still gotta fight

1125
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 8: aggressively but intelligently, and yeah, it's a it's a it's

1126
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 8: a hard mix. But I think he proved that he

1127
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 8: could compete in the UFC and.

1128
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: That that that was all that really mattered to me.

1129
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: Dennis and Zooker with us here on the Naic Imploring podcast.

1130
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 6: So you bet the value of your show money five

1131
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 6: dollars yourself to win, and that netted you an additional

1132
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 6: twenty two hundred dollars in change. What led to that decision?

1133
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: I'd imagine you bet on yourself before now I never did.

1134
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 5: Actually this is the first oh wow, yeah, first time.

1135
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: My mentality going into the fight was it's just do

1136
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 5: or die, like all or nothing. You know, the money's extra,

1137
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 5: but really it's just leave it all in there, go

1138
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: get the contract. In my heart, my mentality was if

1139
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 5: I leave it in there and do my best to

1140
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: my fullest, just give everything I got. Then I have

1141
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: the style to get the contract. I have what the

1142
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: UFC likes and what the fans like. I mean, I

1143
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: got to win. I wanted to finish. Obviously the contract

1144
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: was the goal. But thank god I didn't leave the

1145
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 5: complete scrub with not lost all my whole show money.

1146
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: But I mean it's kind of a little cushion, I guess.

1147
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1148
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 6: I mean, look four straight wind too, you know, go ahead.

1149
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 8: You know he's a very calculated striker, and sometimes that

1150
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 8: looks like, you know, he's being a little patient where

1151
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 8: you know, maybe there should have been more urgency to

1152
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 8: you know, take a chance and just go for it. Maybe,

1153
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 8: But again, I think at the end of the day

1154
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 8: he got lumped in with everybody. I think that card

1155
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 8: started off with a fight that I guarantee you Dana

1156
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 8: was livid over, you know what I mean, a fight

1157
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 8: that didn't deliver any action and guys would jumping around.

1158
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: It's like they get right, you know.

1159
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 6: So Dennis, before we let you go. And I do

1160
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 6: think you've resonated with a fan base in a big way,

1161
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 6: right and it's pretty unique right to have this type

1162
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 6: of traction with UFC. Fans having never fought in the octagon,

1163
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 6: So I do think it's an eventuality. You're only twenty

1164
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 6: four when you get there. All good things, But where

1165
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 6: do you go from here? I mean some people have

1166
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 6: suggested maybe you try to stay as ready as you can,

1167
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: maybe end up getting a short notice opportunity at Madison

1168
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 6: Square Garden in November. What is your mentality about where

1169
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 6: you go from here?

1170
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 5: You know, it's a little hard. I feel like I'm

1171
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 5: in limbo right now because I'm so close to the UFC.

1172
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 5: I'm coming off a win, I'm on a win streak.

1173
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: But I'm just I'll win or lose, especially where I'm

1174
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 5: at right now. I'm gonna just get right back to

1175
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: the gym once I heal up, just work on things

1176
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: I need to be working on, and just be ready

1177
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: for whatever's next, whether it's a regional fight, whether you know,

1178
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: I don't want to say another show like Bellatoor or something,

1179
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 5: because UFC is where I want to be. But hopefully

1180
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 5: I'll just be ready to jump in UFC. MSG would

1181
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: be my dream, that would definitely be my dream. I'll

1182
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: pack that place out too. I really, really really hope

1183
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: I can get on MSG.

1184
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 6: I bet you would.

1185
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: Man.

1186
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 6: Well you've been all classed the way you've handled it,

1187
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 6: and you know, deflecting and everything else. Man, I wish

1188
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 6: you all the best and we want to give you

1189
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 6: a little shine today. So enjoy the w man four

1190
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 6: in a row, and I do think one day we

1191
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 6: very much look forward to calling your fight UFC. Buddy,

1192
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 6: Love you guys, Thank you, my man.

1193
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: Good see.

1194
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 6: With us. You're as part of the Ray Longo MiNet.

1195
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 6: Go ahead, chicken pound.

1196
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: Hey, never could chicken? Never cook chicken again? John to

1197
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: wait for my back? Yeah, Carlo, can you send the

1198
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: guys some chicken please? Guys, look at him.

1199
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: I got mine.

1200
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 6: Make me cheat on chicken with the other white meat.

1201
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: I'll go. Are you saying Kenny got chicken and John didn't? Yeah? Maybe?

1202
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 8: Oh all right, we gotta we'll fix that, John, John,

1203
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 8: you're showing off? Are you showing off? You watch right now?

1204
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 6: You like my yellow brightling?

1205
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: You like that?

1206
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 6: Viewers, Hey, if you're a listener only you know, If

1207
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 6: you're a listener only you know, it might be time

1208
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 6: to uh to check out the Anacmploring podcast YouTube channel.

1209
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 6: But there's our yellow face. Wow, look at that boom

1210
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 6: didn't cost all that much money when my wife bought

1211
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 6: it for me as an engagement gift back in like

1212
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 6: two How about my wife buying She had more money

1213
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 6: than I did when we met, so she bought me

1214
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 6: a nice watch when we got engaged.

1215
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: I wish I had I wish I had the roll.

1216
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: It's ready, Kenny. That would have been comparing like a

1217
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Mazda to a Mercedes. What car are you driving? I

1218
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: got the No.

1219
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Ken Flow is a watch guy, okay,

1220
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 6: and he's just sort of you know, doing the whole

1221
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 6: touching his top, lip to his bottom.

1222
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 9: I'm not saying anything. Dude, got Autumner whatever? This is

1223
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 9: he Trump and the role is Yeah, Yeah, I like

1224
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 9: I love Rolling's my favorite watch.

1225
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: Though I got a few of them. I love him.

1226
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: He got a few of them I got. I tell you,

1227
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: I know, I know guys like that man that's crazy.

1228
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 6: Well and he's ahead of the curve when it comes

1229
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 6: to fashion or anything like that. Yeah, Well, looked at

1230
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 6: three years ago, I had a buddy Ryan was still

1231
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 6: a reach out to me and tell me to invest

1232
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 6: in a roller in a Rolex, And I wish I

1233
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: had done that three years ago. But kent Flow is

1234
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 6: decade ahead of the curve.

1235
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: Like Kenny rolis a big cooin. What are we going with?

1236
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean they're both going up like crazy.

1237
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: Bitcoin right now is a goodbye. But Rolex is going

1238
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: to go. I mean, Rolex always goes up. That's the thing.

1239
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 4: In the United States. People covet Rolexes. They'll double triple

1240
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: and prices. Man, it's crazy.

1241
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1242
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 8: You know when I when I was a kid, just

1243
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 8: to you know, there was a couple of guys with roles.

1244
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 8: I said, I don't you know, I never even envision

1245
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 8: I'd be able to own one. I'm not even joking, like,

1246
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 8: and then there was always like the epitome of you know,

1247
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 8: class and you know, high standings.

1248
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: That you made it like they had a lot of

1249
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: meaning to me. Yeah, it was. It's different. I'm not

1250
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm not collecting it. I actually wear it.

1251
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 6: I always admire Bruce Buffer's green Rolex, hoping that maybe

1252
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 6: he'll he'll leave it to me. I'll probably die first.

1253
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 6: If you listen to the show today, I'm not getting anything.

1254
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: So you went right after the buff you started out,

1255
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: you went right after him.

1256
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 6: Couldn't help myself. I hope.

1257
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, you really want to get even with him? Say

1258
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 8: I think I spotted a nose here when you were.

1259
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: That'll go crazy?

1260
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: All right?

1261
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 6: Before I let you go, Ray, I'm gonna shout out

1262
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 6: a few more names who shined at UFC two seventy seven.

1263
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 6: I know you didn't see a lot of these performances,

1264
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 6: but you tell me who you want to sound off on.

1265
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: Alex Morono over Matthew Semmelsberger and featured prelim about awesome fight.

1266
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 6: Morono's won four in a row and uh he did,

1267
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 6: so is the underdog this weekend. Drew Dober seemed to

1268
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 6: be a very difficult weight cut. There were some issues

1269
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 6: there with that, but a great and off my el

1270
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 6: outis is an absolute beast capecually to Dracar Close, Mike All,

1271
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 6: I'm a good test for him. I thought, you know,

1272
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 6: to be extended a little bit, but he's an absolute monster.

1273
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 6: Undefeated at welterweight and then Nicolai negu Mediano at light heavyweight.

1274
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 6: Four in a row for him, the Romanian wrestling champion

1275
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 6: taking his striking to the next level. So, uh, Morono, Dober, Close, Ray,

1276
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 6: anybody you want to shout out before we let you fly.

1277
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh Man. You know I like drakill close.

1278
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 8: I didn't see the fight though, but but I thought, uh,

1279
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 8: Dobo would is fantastic in that fight.

1280
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love the way.

1281
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 6: I love the way through fights. Well, are you going

1282
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 6: back to Las Vegas for the Contender Series this week

1283
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 6: or no?

1284
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 8: No, I'm going to go back in two weeks, I think,

1285
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 8: and then I'll go from Vegas to Utah with Morad.

1286
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: I think is the plan.

1287
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 6: Okay, who do you have on the Contender Series next?

1288
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 8: We got Charlie Campbell Tuesday night and then Ziem Saudi

1289
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 8: Cuff on the sixteenth, August sixteenth, Yeah, I think it

1290
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 8: might be two weeks, right, pray a week after you?

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, we wish you all the best with that,

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Speaker 6: and I will see you in Salt Lake City. But

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Speaker 6: of course we'll see you next Sunday on the program. Man,

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you getting up for us today, sir.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, dude, I was, I mean, I was. I

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Speaker 2: was feeling it today. No.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you were on fire. Yeah, rare form and especially

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Speaker 6: after not being on the program next week, I just

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Speaker 6: got to get that Instagram sorted out. I think it

1300
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 6: might just push the button on this whole fucking thing

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Speaker 6: and start a new page.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big Instagram fan at this point. They suck. Actually, man,

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: they do nothing.

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Speaker 8: Nothing right, you know? Yeah, whatever talk then no, no, no, no,

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get it going. I got to get back

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01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 8: on that just for the for the show, because I

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01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 8: think the show needs it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I think. All right, well, uh all right,

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Speaker 6: thank you for your time checks in the mail and

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Speaker 6: uh this.

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Speaker 2: Time and this is Kenny Rolex, I gotta go take

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Speaker 2: it easy.

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Speaker 6: There he is, very long ago. Every week on the

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Speaker 6: Ana and Florian Podcast. All right, that is it on

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01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 6: UFC two seventy seven. What did we miss at Anti

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 6: Florian Pod? Also, don't forget next week our second fight

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01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 6: Pass rewind with Anak and Florian drops as we look

1318
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 6: back at a seminal moment in UFC history and have

1319
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 6: a whole lot of fun along the way. But it

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 6: is now time to spend it forward UFC Fight Night

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Speaker 6: Dose versus Hill. Let us get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge.

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01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 8: Is how do you everything possible to win.

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01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: The main event challenge? And Kenny Florian podcast.

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 6: And there he is as we go, Triple box again

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 6: Big Gun Brian Petrie on social media and Brian Petrie, Mma,

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Speaker 6: just inject the energy into my veins. You know, we

1328
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 6: almost printed Big Annick Energy t shirts like I think

1329
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 6: you need like big Gun energy, or I like I

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01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 6: like I like Gannic energy to energy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 6: Wife probably won't like the play on like Big Dick Energy,

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 6: which is obviously the play but uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 6: We have two predictions today for UFC Fight Night at

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 6: the Apex coming up this weekend. Before we get there, bro,

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to quickly get your thoughts on Amanda

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 6: Noon as if I could. Uh what a performance, huh.

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: I love when.

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Speaker 10: Someone who was getting doubted about maybe not having anymore

1341
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 10: or not into it anymore, goes and makes a change

1342
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 10: like switching the South Paul and completely freezing Painya. Cody

1343
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 10: mentioned in the chat they were bringing up Payna when

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 10: she fought Valentina.

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Speaker 4: Hey you fought usopo for it ten years ago.

1346
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: It is you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Do that and she's like okay, but she was stuck.

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Speaker 10: I love how they did that because a lot of

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 10: times there's there's a theory in boxing where sometimes they

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 10: want to put your strong hand first. There's a lot

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 10: of coaches that teach that as opposed to strong hand back.

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Speaker 4: And I love what she did.

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Speaker 10: It was absolutely blue beautiful. And then Payinya just being

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 10: up in stud She got dropped like six times, didn't quit,

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 10: had a huge cut on her head, never was given up,

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Speaker 10: once blown away by both women. I mean literally just

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 10: there's no other sport that puts women's like any kind

1358
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 10: of women's athlete ahead of anything besides them a matt

1359
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 10: you know, they sell women's mime, they sell women's athletes,

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01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 10: and that's a beautif And that was the highest level

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 10: that you're gonna get, you know, next to juwanaway Lee.

1362
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Speaker 4: And so forth. And I absolutely love the fight.

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01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 10: I love both women's heart desire and they both wanted it.

1364
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 10: And just I mean Julietta Pina's daughters doing the stairdown,

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Speaker 10: I mean, come on, heart melted, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 6: Hell yeah? I mean respect is not a strong enough

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01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 6: word for those two women. Correct after the show they

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Speaker 6: put on at UFC two seventy seven, all right, we

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 6: will start our predictions today with the co main event,

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Speaker 6: a couple of the welterweight division's top fifteen BP six

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01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 6: rank descente Luke minus one eighty number thirteen. Jeff Neil

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01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 6: is plus one fifty five, so Luke still only thirty.

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 6: Despite eighteen UFC appearances. He has won four of his

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01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 6: last five, but certainly the last fight not particularly good

1375
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 6: for him, the main event lost to Balao Muhammad that

1376
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 6: was in April. On the other side, Jeff Neil has

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 6: been out a little bit. His last fight twenty twenty

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 6: one in December and went over Santiago Ponzanibo, which snapped

1379
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 6: a two fight skid. I think people are going to

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 6: see value on Jeff Neil close to plus one sixty,

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 6: but I don't have to make a pick BP what

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01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 6: he has.

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 10: Trun I'm the opposite. I see value on Luk being

1384
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 10: pretty low. Here a couple of boys that like to

1385
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 10: throw down. I mean they're boxing as high level. Luk's

1386
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 10: got a chin for fucking days, doesn't quit. And Jeff

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01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 10: Neil blew up after the Contender series, but you know,

1388
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 10: he bounced Mike Perry's head off the campus, which is

1389
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 10: not easy to do. Mike Perry's not toortlessly known to

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 10: be in tough and then since then he's been one

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01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 10: and two. Since He's fought high level guys. You know,

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 10: Steven Thompson now class him on the feet, and Neil

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01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 10: Magni magne them. You know that Neil did what Neil does.

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01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 10: And then the Ponzi fight was very close. You know,

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 10: I actually bet Jeff Neil. But you know, if I'm

1396
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 10: taking my green color glasses off, I thought Ponzinibo won

1397
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 10: that fight, but very very competitive, very close.

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Speaker 4: But Luk Man his.

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Speaker 10: Composure in the blow fight, and Blow is not an

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 10: easy guy to fight. He is becoming quickly becoming the

1401
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 10: Boogeyman division, Bellows Movement, Cardio wrestling fight IQ is tough

1402
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 10: to deal with. And I thought Luk at the you know,

1403
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 10: I picked on that fight and bet him. I thought

1404
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 10: Luk was gonna get frustrated, and he stayed composed because

1405
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 10: that's what the guy does. He likes to go out

1406
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 10: there and he likes to bang, and so the even

1407
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 10: after a loss, I'm impressed with his composure. He's only thirty,

1408
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 10: He's got a wealth of experience, and he's getting better,

1409
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 10: and I think this is a perfect fight for him.

1410
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 10: Minus one eighty is a gorgeous number. I'm gonna play that.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 10: I'm also gonna playhim by ko here. I like Vicente

1412
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 10: Luke by k over Jeff Neil, and I like Jeff Neil,

1413
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 10: but I just think Vincent Vizentai Luca is just a

1414
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 10: little bit better.

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 6: Right now, Kenny, I do believe you are going to

1416
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 6: get the best version of Vicente Luk right. I do think,

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 6: given the nature of his last appearance, that he needs

1418
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 6: a win here. I also, in talking to Save Sayou,

1419
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 6: a good friend of mine, really feel like Jeff Neil

1420
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 6: is healthy and dialed in and candidly. That hasn't always

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01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 6: been the case. What are your thoughts flow on the

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 6: main comin event, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited about this fight. I think it's going to

1424
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 4: be very exciting. I think that Luke is a little

1425
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 4: bit more diverse of an athlete well when it comes

1426
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 4: to the full gamut of mixed martial arts skills, I

1427
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: think he's got more wys to win. He can do

1428
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: more both on the ground and on the feet. In

1429
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 4: my opinion. Now, the big question for me is who's

1430
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: you know what Jeff Neil is gonna show up. Sometimes

1431
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: we see a Jeff Neil but has a little bit

1432
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: too complacent who tends to not throw a whole lot

1433
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: of combinations, kind of gets caught into just looking for

1434
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: one big shot, stays on the periphery without really committing

1435
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 4: very much. And then sometimes we get the Jeff Neil

1436
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 4: who walks you down, who is looking to take your

1437
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: head off. So for me, I don't love inconsistency.

1438
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 6: Luke.

1439
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: Whether he wins or loses, he always shows up and

1440
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: he's always game, and he's always trying to take your

1441
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 4: head off or submit you. And I like that, And

1442
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: for me, I gotta go with consistency here. Luke is

1443
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: I think the more diverse mixed martial artists here.

1444
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna go with the Brazilian all right, Ken

1445
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 6: Flow and Brian both pretty convicted on the sente Luk Broab.

1446
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: What do he have?

1447
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 10: Is there like a glow with Kenny today? I mean

1448
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 10: I watched the show before I got on. This guy's

1449
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 10: got like this shacket camo thing going. He looks relaxed,

1450
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 10: you know, he's back in his office. I mean, this

1451
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 10: is a tough competition. I gotta fucking step it up here, guys.

1452
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I only get ready here, okay, And he.

1453
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 6: Doesn't take compliments well, but he's like rehearse like no

1454
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 6: white like my beard is fucking white and this guy

1455
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 6: like you don't die. Team doctor Florian Guss and Annese

1456
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 6: Florian is tremendous, genetic all right. Main event two hundred

1457
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 6: and five pounds. Tenth rank contender Jamal Sweet Dreams Hill,

1458
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 6: who I think can be a champion, just got to

1459
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 6: put down the backwoods my man. No, I'm just kidding.

1460
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 6: He's bonus two sixty against six ranked Thiago Santos, who

1461
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 6: comes back at plus two twenty. So kem flow will

1462
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 6: lead with you here. Been sort of a rough go

1463
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 6: from ahead to since he nearly rested the light heavyweight

1464
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 6: title away from John Jones in March of twenty nineteen.

1465
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 6: He's lost three of four. He's thirty eight years of age.

1466
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 6: Last time out, of course, the five round unanimous decision

1467
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 6: lost to Maga man uncliath your thoughts on Santos here

1468
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 6: at a big spot against these streaking Jamal Hill.

1469
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 4: He isn't a big spot, you know. I think for Chiago,

1470
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 4: you know, it's tough to tell. Has he become more

1471
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: civilized or is he still kind of or is he

1472
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: still kind of dealing with that knee injury that has

1473
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 4: slowed him down significantly. It's hard. It's hard to tell,

1474
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 4: but you know the Santos that used to go out

1475
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 4: there and was willing to die on his shield or

1476
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: you know, go out there looking to crush you with

1477
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 4: every single shot. I think he's kind of long gone

1478
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. So for me, I think Jamal Hill

1479
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: is coming into this division with an energy and with

1480
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: the style that is going to be hard to compete with.

1481
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: He's riding high on confidence, He's very slick on the

1482
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 4: feet man, the way that he moves, the way that

1483
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: he's capable of countering you, I think he brings in

1484
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 4: a very interesting style. And for Santos, if he's not

1485
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,879
Speaker 4: coming forward, I still think Jamal Hill can bring offense

1486
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 4: and come forward and set up the shots that he wants.

1487
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be faster. I don't think

1488
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 4: Jamal Hill probably hits his hard as Santos, but I

1489
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 4: do think he's going to be quicker and I think

1490
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: he's going to be a little bit more accurate as well.

1491
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 4: So I'm just curious to see what kind of Santos

1492
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: we see out there. We could see a Santos that

1493
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: just kind of circles the whole time and again just

1494
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 4: keeps that distance and never really allows Hill to get

1495
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: off and we see a terrible fight because of it.

1496
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 4: I think that is probable as well. But I think

1497
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: Jamal Hill is going to be too hungry. He's going

1498
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 4: to bring the fight to Santos if he needs. I

1499
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: think he's best in the counter striking role, but I

1500
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 4: do think he's going to bring the fight to Santos.

1501
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 4: If that happens, force him to fight and come away

1502
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: with the win. And I wouldn't be surprised if Hill

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Speaker 4: goes out there and gets a finish here.

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Speaker 6: And Jamal Hill's got a lot of grappling experience, a

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 6: lot of jiu jitsu skills, you know, he feels like

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 6: that part of his game is just criminally overlooked and

1507
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 6: figures to have the advantage in the grappling situation, at

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 6: least in my mind. Yeah, Santos has gone the full

1509
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 6: twenty five minutes three times in the UFC Bride. That

1510
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 6: was his sixth UFC main event there against Goliath Hill.

1511
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 6: Back to back first round knockouts of Johnny Walker and

1512
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 6: Jimmy Cruth, they both really served to get the fans

1513
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 6: excited he won performance bonuses outstanding athlete at a big

1514
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Speaker 6: spot form here against Tiago Santos. Your thoughts on the

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Speaker 6: main event August sixth.

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Speaker 10: Just talking about Sweet Treams gives me confidence, you know

1517
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 10: what I mean, a little bit of swagger to me.

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 10: This guy is smooth, So DC put out that video

1519
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 10: on the basketball court. He's an athlete, He's got an

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 10: interesting body. I had a buddy that had a body

1521
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 10: type like him that could put down a horse with

1522
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 10: his punches. You wouldn't expect it, but it's like, it's

1523
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 10: just this different kind of weird leverage you have. And

1524
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 10: I truly believe his skills are finally matching up with

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 10: his confidence. I think he ran into the Paul Craig

1526
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 10: that was a lesson learned, got his elbow dislocated and

1527
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 10: was like, okay, let's regroup. Here, sleeps Jimmy krup sleeps

1528
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 10: Johnny Walker. Confidence all the time high. But Santos has

1529
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 10: sledgehammers attached to its walking hands, for sure, but he's

1530
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 10: got to throw them. He looks kind of flat his

1531
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 10: last couple times out since the John Jones fight after

1532
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 10: double knee surgery, he's been one and three in the

1533
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 10: UFC and he's a little flat, maybe second guess himself.

1534
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: Maybe the knee injury is still a problem.

1535
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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 10: But he first three fights at two hundred and five pounds,

1537
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 10: he finished everyone. Now he hasn't finished, doesn't really have

1538
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 10: any wins besides Johnny Walker, where that was kind of

1539
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 10: Taylor made for him, the let go of sledgehammers, and

1540
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 10: he really did. It was a pedestrian fight. I think

1541
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 10: he's gonna put pressure on him. I think he's a

1542
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 10: good counterfighter, but I also think he has a longer reach.

1543
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 10: My biggest concern is maybe Santo's is gonna rest a

1544
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 10: little bit. But Hill does come from a jiu jitsu background.

1545
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 10: He's been wanting to prove that. But also Hill does

1546
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 10: kind of keep his chin up in the air a

1547
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 10: little bit. Thiago Santos. It's only three inch reach advantage,

1548
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 10: so it's not like a huge reach avantage where he

1549
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 10: can get away with stuff like that against a Jimmy

1550
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 10: Crut who's a little bit smaller. So I'm a little

1551
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 10: concerned about that. But I just I just don't think

1552
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 10: Santos is gonna be willing to engage. I think it's

1553
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 10: gonna be a lot of work by Hill, and his

1554
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 10: confidence isn't gonna let him take a step forward or

1555
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 10: step backward. Excuse me, he's going forward. I like him

1556
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 10: at two six. He it's mid chalk, but I'm gonna

1557
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 10: do the beautiful DraftKings saying game parlay. I like Hill

1558
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 10: plus Ko and that's just some juicy money right there.

1559
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, so give me that. And it's going to be

1560
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 6: interesting talking about this fight next week and particularly how

1561
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 6: it plays into the UFC's light heavyweight division pecking order,

1562
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 6: right because you know, if Jamal Hill is able to

1563
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 6: get a knockout here, right, he's going to get a

1564
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 6: big fight, total eliminator type fight. And you know, maybe

1565
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 6: I think the ceiling on him is is higher than

1566
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 6: some of my contemporaries, but it's a tremendous athlete. You

1567
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 6: see him sure a three corner, you know, which I

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Speaker 6: My man appreciate the time. We'll talk to you next

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Speaker 8: Cool.

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Speaker 4: That's a good one, Johnny. All right, boys, I'll see

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Speaker 4: you have a good week.

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