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Speaker 1: is Mike Bobo. And here's what the criticism was of

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Speaker 1: Brian McClendon. That is a sure fire compliment being paid

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Speaker 1: to Mike Bobo right now, and that is progression based

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Speaker 1: play calling. And it's a simple concept, but it's all

439
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Speaker 1: of a sudden a hard concept sometimes when you don't

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Speaker 1: have someone in there who seems to.

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Speaker 2: Really grasp the concept.

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's understanding and having a plan and

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Speaker 1: calling plays according to that plan. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: have a plan, then you just you got to play

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Speaker 1: sheet in front of you, but you're just calling plays.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you ever used to play

447
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Speaker 1: the video games, or maybe you still do. I used

448
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Speaker 1: to play them, but sometimes what you would do is

449
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Speaker 1: you call a play and then you'd run the plane

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Speaker 1: and see if it worked, and then you would go

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Speaker 1: back in and play clock started. So let's choose another play. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not progression based play calling. Progression based play calling

453
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Speaker 1: is kind of like chess versus checkers. In chess, you're

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Speaker 1: not making a move without future moves in mind, or

455
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Speaker 1: if you are, you're not loan for that game if

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Speaker 1: you're playing anyone worth anything. So a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have seen already early signs that Mike Bobo understands that

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Speaker 1: not that there was any mystery. Probably wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: hired if you didn't. But it's just something they haven't

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Speaker 1: seen over there in a while, so that has them

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Speaker 1: a little bit excited.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, I don't mean to pour water on

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Speaker 1: every single statement I make that sounds positive about Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this with a lot of teams. Let's wait

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Speaker 1: and see. I think it's very, very unreasonable to expect

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Speaker 1: at a place like Carolina, a place like Georgia and

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Speaker 1: the SEC East alone, places where you have several new

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Speaker 1: pieces offensively, including coordinator, I think it's unreasonable to see

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Speaker 1: them put up twenty four points in the first half

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Speaker 1: of the first game they play so let's be reasonable

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Speaker 1: about this. Next up is TB with Nolan Rucci out

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Speaker 1: of Lancaster, PA committing to Wisconsin and last year's commitment

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Speaker 1: of five star wide receiver Julian Fleming to Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: also from Pennsylvania. Both players are roughly within two hours

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Speaker 1: of Penn State's campus. What does this say of Penn

477
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Speaker 1: State as a program and James Franklin as a coach

478
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Speaker 1: and his staff to lose out on the number one

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Speaker 1: player in the state the last two years. Does it

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Speaker 1: say anything at all? Or am I just reading too

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Speaker 1: deeply into it. It's just hard for me to imagine

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Speaker 1: high end programs like Ohio State or Alabama allowing that

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Speaker 1: to happen. TV the number one player in Alabama left

484
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Speaker 1: the state last year and he went.

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Speaker 2: To Georgia, So it does happen.

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Speaker 1: It could happen, As my buddy JP famously said in

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Speaker 1: Angels in the Outfield. However, I understand in theory what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. Let me be clear, Penn State is not

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Speaker 1: on the level of Ohio State or Alabama as a

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Speaker 1: recruiting power yet, so I don't compare them to those

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Speaker 1: two programs, and in fairness, I don't really compare anyone

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Speaker 1: this side of Clemson and maybe Georgia to those two programs.

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Speaker 1: But let's break this down a little bit. If you

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Speaker 1: want even further into up the analysis, check out the

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Speaker 1: Wolfong recruiting whip around, which I'll be uploading as soon

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Speaker 1: as I hit stop on this recording, by the way,

497
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Speaker 1: so it'll be there. And Wolfong goes into great detail

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Speaker 1: on the behind the scenes here. But essentially, I think

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Speaker 1: what this came down to is Wisconsin had started recruiting Rouchie,

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Speaker 1: who is a five star offensive tackle in the composite,

501
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Speaker 1: the twenty four to seven Sports composite if you don't know,

502
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Speaker 1: big time player, ready to play immediately, and he is

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Speaker 1: a guy who was offered I think in eighth grade

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Speaker 1: by Wisconsin, and there were reasons to stay home at

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Speaker 1: Penn State. He's a legacy recruit. But I think really

506
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Speaker 1: what it came down to, it's been overthought a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think what it came down to is the change

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Speaker 1: in offensive staff over this past cycle and bringing in

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Speaker 1: Kirk Saraka as the new offensive coordinator at Penn State,

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Speaker 1: and the inability to get face to face contact because

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Speaker 1: of COVID. I think That's really what it came down to.

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Speaker 1: And you could take all kind of branches off of

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Speaker 1: that tree and you could say, well, what about this,

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Speaker 1: what about that?

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Speaker 2: Yep, but all those are tied.

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Speaker 1: To I think the main reason that I just listed,

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Speaker 1: And here's what I think it says about Penn State

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Speaker 1: and James Franklin. It says they missed out on a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys they wanted. That's what it says.

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Speaker 2: It happens, it happens.

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Speaker 1: But I also want to say this, what if Kirk

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Speaker 1: Soroka comes in and let's say they end up having

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Speaker 1: a season in the Big Ten sometime in the next

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Speaker 1: four or five years, and they shine and that offense

525
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Speaker 1: looks like it is taken the next step. Well, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, let's say a five star wide receiver

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Speaker 1: for the class of twenty twenty two is in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: I think he's far less likely to leave the state.

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Speaker 1: You've got a proven product at Penn State that is

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Speaker 1: featuring and leveraging elite wide receiver talent. Ohio State has

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Speaker 1: shown it. Okay, at the time that Julian Fleming was committing,

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Speaker 1: Penn State hadn't shown it. They just hadn't shown it,

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Speaker 1: so that didn't surprise me. Wisconsin has shown the ability

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Speaker 1: to develop several offensive linemen who weren't as highly rated

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Speaker 1: as Nolan Rucci, so there's no guess work going to

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin with his family and the kid himself. Maybe there

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Speaker 1: is a little bit going to Penn State. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, to be honest with you, are

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Speaker 1: still a little bit unfair with their expectations for Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Folks. It's a miracle they are where they are right now.

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Speaker 1: Attention spans have gotten so short that it was not

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Speaker 1: that long ago that this program was mired in the

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Speaker 1: biggest scandal of this millennium so far in college football,

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Speaker 1: really one of the biggest in sports. The abuse scandal

545
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Speaker 1: up there is still fresh and they got hit with

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Speaker 1: crippling sanctions and no one even talks about it now.

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Speaker 1: Think about how hard it is and how in line

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Speaker 1: you got to have every aspect to get over it

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Speaker 1: that quickly and to recover a program that quickly.

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Speaker 2: They already have.

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Speaker 1: People are holding them to the Alabama, Ohio State standard.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm overly impressed Penn State is where

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Speaker 1: they are right now, when now they set themselves up

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Speaker 1: if we can never get things off the ground in

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Speaker 1: the big ten to where now they've got their feet

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Speaker 1: under them again, and they've had some good seasons already,

557
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Speaker 1: but now they can take that next step. But listen,

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Speaker 1: in order to climb a ladder, you got to have

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Speaker 1: your feet.

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Speaker 2: Under you first.

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Speaker 1: I view Penn State as having their feet under them.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to climb the ladder. One doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: before the other. David is next up. I'm curious have

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Speaker 1: you ever found yourself or did you ever find yourself

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Speaker 1: having to choose between a career in sports media versus

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Speaker 1: a career in meteorology or storm chasing. If so, how

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Speaker 1: did you make the decision? Well, it was easy with

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Speaker 1: the storm chasing, David. There's really no money in that,

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Speaker 1: so that's a hobby, always has been, always.

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Speaker 2: Will be, God willing.

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Speaker 1: I did have to choose between a career in sports

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Speaker 1: media and meteorology or atmospheric science, and it came down

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Speaker 1: to passion for science versus passion for creativity, and creativity

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Speaker 1: one out. As you can imagine, it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more difficult to be creative in the world of weather

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Speaker 1: than it is in the sports media world like we're

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Speaker 1: doing right now. This is commentary. So I can predict

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Speaker 1: Alabama's going to finish seventh in the SEC West if

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Speaker 1: I want to. I cannot, however, look at EURO or

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Speaker 1: GFS ensemble data this morning and if all of them agree,

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Speaker 1: if every one of the model data outputs says, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's probably going to be anywhere from eighty four to

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Speaker 1: eighty seven degrees in making Georgia this afternoon, I can't

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Speaker 1: be going on TV and saying we're going to struggle

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Speaker 1: to hit sixty today. I can't do that. Well, I

586
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Speaker 1: can't do it for long. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: So creativity over science one out in the passion department. However,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this and I'll leave it there. I have

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Speaker 1: some concepts for more entertainment based weather content production that

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Speaker 1: I think are very possible that I think there is

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Speaker 1: a huge untapped market for that I fully plan on

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Speaker 1: exploring one of these days.

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Speaker 2: So let me leave that there.

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Speaker 1: Also, there was another reason I've seen the requirements for

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Speaker 1: an atmospheric science degree. I've been around a couple of

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Speaker 1: buddies who were already meteorologists too, were going for their

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Speaker 1: seals and who were going for advancement and obtaining new degrees,

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Speaker 1: and I've in some cases taking online classes.

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Speaker 2: I have watched them go through their coursework.

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Speaker 1: It is very taxing, it is very in the weeds,

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot of stuff that you will never

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Speaker 1: ever have to use in your life on air, but

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Speaker 1: yet you have to know the science and.

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Speaker 2: Who like there are ways.

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Speaker 1: There are a few different paths you can take to

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Speaker 1: get a microphone in front of your face and someone

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Speaker 1: paying you to do it. Obviously, college is the most

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Speaker 1: traditional route, but it's not necessary. It's necessary in weather

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Speaker 1: and you got to commit yourself to it. And that's

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Speaker 1: a natural filtration process, cause it takes a long time.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's.

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Speaker 1: Funny though, in the weather industry, kind of like in

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Speaker 1: the sports media industry, it's evolving pretty rapidly right now.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is when I was

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Speaker 1: ten years old, when I was twelve years old, and

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Speaker 1: I was playing around with a toy microphone, and I

617
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Speaker 1: was first kind of approaching the idea that I.

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to do this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe when I grew up for a living, everyone's true

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Speaker 1: north was ESPN. Everyone's true north was I wake up

621
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Speaker 1: every morning and go to sleep every night watching Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: That's the goal. That is the mountaintop for everyone in

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Speaker 1: sports media. Just like if I was the same age

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Speaker 1: in weather the Weather Channel right up the road in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta from where I grew up, that was true north.

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Speaker 1: That was everyone's compass. That was where it was pointed.

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Speaker 1: That's where you're trying to get. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: it is today. That is certainly not the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Not that it wouldn't still be a great accomplishment to

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Speaker 1: work at either of those places, but there are other options.

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Speaker 1: The independent route is an option. There are several other

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Speaker 1: places that you could go and be employed as an

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Speaker 1: option and be what I would refer to as at

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Speaker 1: or near the pinnacle of those respective industries. So who

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Speaker 1: knows what five years from now either of those industries

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Speaker 1: look like. Charles is up next. Do you think Auburn

637
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Speaker 1: under Gusmuson will ever have an offense that gets back

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Speaker 1: to a triple option up to two, no huddle attack the

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Speaker 1: kind that we were accustomed to seeing in twenty ten

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Speaker 1: and twenty thirteen, the Malson offense that got the Tigers

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Speaker 1: to two National Championship games, including a win with Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton at quarterback. I know Gus has on offense right

643
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: now or who he has is not conducive to that style,

644
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Speaker 1: but I really miss seeing him go crazy on the

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Speaker 1: sideline running an offense designed under his philosophy. Charles, the

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Speaker 1: answer is no, I don't expect it. There are reasons.

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Speaker 1: The first is when Malson first arrived here, he never

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Speaker 1: fooled anyone. I want to make this perfectly clear. There

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Speaker 1: was a misconception out there that when Gus Malzon got

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Speaker 1: to Auburn in twenty ten is something that I throw

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Speaker 1: away totally. Twenty ten was not Gus Malson's offense. It

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Speaker 1: was Cam Newton's offense. So that's kind of a throwaway.

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Speaker 1: I don't take credit away. What I'm saying is you

654
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Speaker 1: did what you did that year because of the uniqueness

655
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: of personnel at quarterback. So unless a monster, freak athlete

656
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to just randomly walk on to campus

657
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: in Auburn and out of Blynn College in Texas, then

658
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: we probably have to use a different set of criteria here.

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: So you know, Nick Marshall twenty thirteen, Okay, that I

660
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: could see that's a former defensive back at Georgia that

661
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: transfers to Auburn. So yes, that sort of thing could happen.

662
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: You could get that caliber athlete, that style of quarterback.

663
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They didn't surprise people.

664
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Malson was OC in twenty ten, he was head coach

665
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. He didn't surprise anyone. He made people

666
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: look foolish, but it wasn't because they were surprised. It

667
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: was because a lot of folks down here had recruited

668
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound linebackers to stop the likes

669
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: of the Georgia running game or the LSU run game

670
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: or the Alabama run game. Well, all of a sudden,

671
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Malson said, well, all these folks are trying to run

672
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: through the opponent. I think I'll just run around them.

673
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: And it's really hard to recruit to stop both. So

674
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Malson made people look stupid. But it wasn't like in

675
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: postgame film study those coaching staffs were sitting there watching

676
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Auburn's offense saying, man, I just can't really get a read.

677
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: On what they're doing.

678
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: It was there. There were not a ton of complexities.

679
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Maybe to the untrained eye there were, but to defensive

680
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: coordinators in the SEC.

681
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't that, It was just them looking.

682
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: At it and saying, well, I can pretty much sketch

683
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: out this entire offense on a pizza box, but we

684
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: don't have the personnel to stop it. We can't go

685
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline like we need to. He's using fifty

686
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: three and a thirty yards of this field and we're

687
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: used to playing in a phone booth, and we're built

688
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: to stop teams who play in a phone booth.

689
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: So it took a little while, but guess what. Then

690
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: the league adjusted.

691
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: The League's not gonna let you do that to it

692
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: for very long. So the league adjusted, and now Gus

693
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Malson could take the exact same team he had in

694
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. If I were to give him that same

695
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: exact roster in twenty twenty, he wouldn't be able to

696
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: do anything remotely close in twenty twenty to what he

697
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: was able to do in twenty thirteen. Statistically, it'd be

698
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: a good team, but they wouldn't do what they were

699
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: able to do with the exact same team in twenty twenty.

700
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: The league's adjusted.

701
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: The personnel defensively is different, and so Malzon understands that.

702
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: That's why I think you went and got Chad Moore

703
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: because he understands they have to upgrade their team and

704
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: they have to conceptually upgrade their passing game because right now,

705
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: no one is scared of it. And you got a

706
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: quarterback who's got a good arm. You got a quarterback

707
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: with the ability to throw the ball, I mean, and

708
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: he's very good at it. Now.

709
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I watched Bo Nixon high school.

710
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks is a guy who if I dropped him

711
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma could put up ridiculous video game type passing numbers.

712
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: He's not being properly utilized there, and he's a true freshman,

713
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: so he's now a sophomore. So I understand we have

714
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: one year under our belts to gauge that by but

715
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Malson's evolving that offense because he knows he needs to.

716
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: And I'm very excited to see that. This year.

717
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: It could be bumpy with that offensive line and uncertainties there,

718
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: but I'm very excited to see that because that is

719
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: the step that I think they have to take, and

720
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: he thinks they have to take. Staying in the SEC.

721
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: ISAAC asks which new coaches in that conference will be

722
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: able to install their preferred system and culture the quickest

723
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: well the new coaches out of all those.

724
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: To me, I don't know why this is, but the

725
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: day Lane Kiffin was.

726
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Hired at Old Miss, it felt like a fit to me.

727
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin just feels like ole Miss to me. I

728
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: don't know how you guys take that in Oxford, but

729
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: he feels like ole Miss to me. I mean, one

730
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: of the most classic moments in the last ten years

731
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: in the SEC is Lane Kiffin on a tarmac at

732
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Ole Miss being welcomed by a fan and then in

733
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: the very next sentence being told, hey, get you a burner. Now,

734
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: you better get you a burner. That right there could

735
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: not be written any better if it were being pitched

736
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: for a Netflix series. That was classic. That was like

737
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: watching Sabin a generation earlier, arrive to this mob in

738
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: the middle of a work day, this mob of Alabama

739
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: fans on the tarmac. I mean, some lady tried to

740
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: open mouth kiss him right there in front of God,

741
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: and everyone tried to open mouth kiss Sabin and he

742
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: did the very very shrewd turn the cheek last minute,

743
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: and he still got one. Fortunately it wasn't on the mouth.

744
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: But I think Lang Kiffin fits at ol Miss. I

745
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: don't think he'll have any problem installing the kind of

746
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: culture that he wants to put in there. It's kind

747
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: of football counter culture, and it already fits at Ole

748
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: miss Sam Pittman feels like Arkansas to me. Now the

749
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: culture to me, the question there is a little bit

750
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: different because the lack of head coaching experience. But I

751
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: don't know that that necessarily is going to stand in

752
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the way of Sam Pittman, because he's got himself a

753
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: really good staff up there. How long he can keep

754
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: that staff together, it depends on how they do this year. Probably.

755
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about drink wits at Missouri to

756
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you, so I'm still wait and see

757
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: on that one.

758
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Mike Leech does not feel like.

759
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: A fit at Mississippi State, just to be brutally honest

760
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: with you, could be wrong. Hope I'm wrong for the record,

761
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: but it feels very very much like a forced fit there.

762
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: But at the same time, as I said when they

763
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: hired him, that's the way I feel. But who cares

764
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: about how I feel. I've been wrong about this stuff before.

765
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: The point is Mississippi State, even if the fit doesn't

766
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: feel perfect they did what they have to do. They

767
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: have to take a chance. They can't go find someone

768
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: who's going to play things safely there.

769
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: They can't do that.

770
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, they can do it and go five and seven

771
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: every year, but they had to take a chance. And

772
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what, a roll of the dice sometimes you

773
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: can flame out on it. But would you rather roll

774
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: the dice and have a question mark or take the

775
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: more safe route and the route that quote unquote fits

776
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: better and guarantee yourself you're never going above five hundred.

777
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: So I think they made the move they needed to there.

778
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: Next up is AJ. How much do you think universities

779
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: can get the edge on recruiting by being good at

780
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: multiple sports? Well, it's big, AJ, and it's big because

781
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: of culture. You rarely find a university that's good at

782
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: every sport that has a weak culture.

783
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: In fact, you never find that. It never happens. So

784
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: culture permeates.

785
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: You feel it if you're a prospective athlete, if you're

786
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: a recruit, you feel it as soon as you step

787
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: on that campus. So it really helps in recruiting visits.

788
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the staples of an official recruiting

789
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: visit during the season most times is you.

790
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: Take the kiss to the basketball game.

791
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: If you have any kind of good atmosphere at your

792
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: basketball games, you take the football players to the basketball game.

793
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: So it helps there. But here's what helps it does

794
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: it galvanizes sidewalk alumni. A lot of people use this

795
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: in a pejorative context. The sidewalk fan, I don't sidewalk

796
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: fan essentially means you root for a university, but you

797
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't go there, which is perfectly fine.

798
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Who in the world cares if you went there.

799
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: There's an added degree if you did go there, Okay,

800
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: there's an added level and layer in your mind of

801
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: pride that maybe a sidewalk alumni doesn't have.

802
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

803
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: And you take pride in your school more than someone

804
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: who didn't go there. But having said that, you know,

805
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: if you were at a Texas A and M, that

806
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: stadium is not one hundred and one thousand strong every

807
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: Saturday because you got one hundred and one thousand folks

808
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: with degrees from A and M on their wall sitting

809
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: in the stadium. They build those stadiums as big as

810
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: they do because of sidewalk fans, And so in the

811
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: sidewalk alumni base, there's a lot bigger tendency to root

812
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: for a sport instead of the university. If you graduated

813
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: from A and M, you probably just bleed aggies every

814
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: single thing.

815
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 2: Every sport you.

816
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Know, cross country, football, basketball, you pull for them all.

817
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: But if I'm just someone who grew up in Denton,

818
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: Texas and I was attracted to A and M football,

819
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: I may just pull for A ANDM football. Couldn't tell

820
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: you who the basketball coach is. But if every sport

821
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: is good, then it also galvanizes that sidewalk alumni base.

822
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: And that really helps because it has an effect on

823
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: the overall culture and the way that recruits see your

824
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: brand half the time is tied into how they interact

825
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: with fans, how they observe the fan base, and if

826
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: the fan base is dialed in all year round, then

827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: that attracts a kid to the university maybe instead of

828
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: just the team. Those bonds are a lot stronger, and

829
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: those are guys who rarely transfer. Next up is Josh

830
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: decent name. I would say as someone outside the US,

831
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: I had to pick my own team without any family

832
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: or geographical or social tie. I have my own criteria.

833
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: But now I'm trying to get my friends who are

834
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: sports fans into college football, but they need help finding

835
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: a team. So if you were not someone brought up

836
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: in college football, who would you support and what would

837
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: your criteria and choice be. Josh, you ask for one here,

838
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: That's not the way I would approach you. Okay, if

839
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm choosing, I am going to choose a stable of teams.

840
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Put the percentages in your favor. You don't want to

841
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: choose someone and live half a world away and see

842
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: them go one and two to start the season and

843
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: you lose interest in all of a sudden you're watching

844
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: cricket all afternoon on Saturdays.

845
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: No one wants that.

846
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: That's not a life that I would wish on my

847
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: worst enemy. And so what I would do is I

848
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: would treat it like pro wrestling. I would choose a

849
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: stable of teams, and so I would have an alpha team. Okay,

850
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: that's the one first and foremost that you root for

851
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: above all else. If your alpha team plays other teams

852
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: in your stable, you still root for the alpha team

853
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: now right now, to me, that would be Alabama because

854
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I would want to root for the greatest head coach

855
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, and that's a program

856
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: that is as tradition rich as anyone in the history

857
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: of the sport. So Alabama would probably be the alpha.

858
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm a front runner, by the way, in case you

859
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: haven't noticed, I love big brands. I love the front runners,

860
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: or I am a front runner, so I love teams

861
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: that win consistently. So I would choose Alabama. I wouldn't

862
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: overthink the room. I wouldn't be someone who chose I'm

863
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: not going to say a university here because I will

864
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: get hate mail for a week. I wouldn't choose the

865
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: scrappy underdog as my alpha. That's what I'm saying now.

866
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: Having said that, I throw Iowa stayed in there. I

867
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: have long talked about my fascination, weird fascination with Iowa State.

868
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Never been to the state, but I love the color scheme,

869
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: I love the culture up there. I love the game

870
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: day atmosphere from what I've seen on TV. So I

871
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: would throw Iowa stayed in there for maybe niche based purposes.

872
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: I'd throw a team like Oregon in there to get

873
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: a West Coast presence, the branding, the uniqueness, the appeal

874
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: of that logo, the Nike tie in. The more modernized

875
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: version of college football out there all encompassing, so I

876
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: would put Oregon in there. I would take a G

877
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: five team like Cincinnati just for chaos purposes, so I

878
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: would create a stable. That's what my recommendation would be. Josh,

879
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: treat it like a college football team. Draft and draft

880
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: you about four or five or six teams.

881
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Don't let me put a limit on you.

882
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: But you don't want to roll around fifteen teams deep, okay,

883
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: because then you're going to have conflict every Saturday. But

884
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: get you an alpha and then get you about three

885
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: or four more teams and then enjoy your saturdays some more.

886
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: And Tommy kind of had a version of the same question,

887
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: So I'm going to combine these here. Question about the

888
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, there have been rumors the Big Ten and

889
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: Pac twelve or having maybe some sort of handshake agreement

890
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: to play their seasons after Thanksgiving and then they have

891
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: conference champs play each other in a de facto Rose

892
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Bowl game. However, the Rose Bowl is scheduled to host

893
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: a college football playoff semi final game. Does this mean

894
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: we may see two Rose Bowls and two national champs

895
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one? I guess it could. I have

896
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: no clue what to make of a season that starts

897
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: in November, And I have no way to know whether

898
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: anyone is even going to take a season serious that

899
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: starts then. I don't know. I mean, I can assure

900
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: you would talk about it, but I don't know how

901
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: serious it's taken. I don't know how many star players

902
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: would opt out. So point is, let's just say it

903
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: does happen, and let's say the Big Ten and Pac

904
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: twelve get seasons off the ground simultaneously, and they end

905
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: long after the real college football season has ended.

906
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we could see two Rose Bowls.

907
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think they would start their seasons

908
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: up without the end goal of having a second Rose Bowl.

909
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that's start one up without confirmation that

910
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: that's the mountaintop, that's the prize that everyone's working towards.

911
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: So I think we probably would have them ask for

912
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: the two national champions. That's gonna be decided by like

913
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: the AP voters.

914
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: For example, You're.

915
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Going, if you have a college football playoff, you will

916
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: have a national champion crowned. The question would become, does

917
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: the AP go along with that? Does the AP say, okay,

918
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: we're just recognizing the champion that is crowned by the

919
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff Committee, that's gonna be our champion too,

920
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Or are they gonna say, We're gonna wait for the

921
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: entire season to end as we see it, and then

922
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: we'll decide who our champion is. And to that I

923
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: have no idea, Guys, I have no clue how that

924
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: would go, how that would look. Could be chaos, which

925
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: seems to be the word of the day on this podcast.

926
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Matthew has probably one of the most important questions in

927
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: the history of this podcast. Josh, I love the movie Twister,

928
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if I could get your thoughts

929
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: on the movie Dante's Peak. Great question, Matthew, Life changing question.

930
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Dante's Peak was a movie about a volcano. It was

931
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: kind of meant to be fashioned after Mountain Saint Helen's.

932
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: It was set in the Pacific Northwest. This was a

933
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: disaster movie that came out in the nineties, mid to

934
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: late nineties.

935
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: I think I was in.

936
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Middle school when this came out. I thought it had

937
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: good storytelling. I really felt like sitting in that movie theater.

938
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: By the end of that movie, I felt like if

939
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: that theater were to collapse around me, Pierce Brosnan really

940
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: would come in and try and save me. I really

941
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: felt like Pierce Brosnan would come back for me if

942
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I needed help from him, so I fully bought into

943
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: his character the grandma aggravating. The grandma was also fashioned.

944
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: If you're familiar with the story of Mount Saint Helen's,

945
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: she was kind of fashioned after a guy named Harry Truman,

946
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: not the Harry Truman, you know, but one who lived

947
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: up on Spirit Lake up in Mount Saint Helens. And

948
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: he was one that dougas heels In refused to leave

949
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: and then things went boom, and then Harry went bye bye,

950
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: and the Grandma was kind of taking.

951
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: That stance too.

952
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: This mountain won't hurt me, Well, lady, the mountain really

953
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: doesn't know you from Adam, and so it did try

954
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: and hurt you. And it was too late to get

955
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: her out of there, wasn't it. And so one thing

956
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: that I didn't know happened. And to be honest, even today,

957
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to a geologist about this, but I

958
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: didn't know those lakes were able to turn to acid.

959
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Maybe some creative leeway was taken by our friends in Hollywood,

960
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: or maybe that's just reality, but the lake turning to

961
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: acid and her having to hop out of the boat

962
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. If anyone hasn't seen this, it's been twenty

963
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: five years, so you need to get your act together.

964
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: That was tough to watch, but.

965
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: You know what, in the end, she probably deserved it.

966
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: And the last thing I want to.

967
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Say about Dante's Peak, and again I think this is

968
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: very important work that we're doing here on the podcast

969
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: this morning. There's this strange thing about disaster movies. I

970
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: told you tuesday. There are things that I feel sometimes

971
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: that I'm certain no one else feels.

972
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: And this may be one of them.

973
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Disaster movies are all about building up to the disaster climax.

974
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: Right in Dante's Peak, the entire reason you're watching the

975
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: movie is to see the volcano erupt. The entire reason

976
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: you were watching Armageddon is to see whether the asteroid

977
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: is going to hit Earth or not. Well, I have

978
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: this thing about me where after I've seen a disaster movie,

979
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: if they come on again, and you know, Armageddon's been

980
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: on probably thirty seven times on FX this month, Dante's

981
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Peaks on a lot too, So every time after the

982
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: first time I watched the disaster movie. I tune out

983
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: before the disaster. I watched the build up. I watch

984
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: the pre build and the storytelling and the stage setting.

985
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: But then I'll dip out because I don't want to

986
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: put myself emotionally through the taxation of watching, even though

987
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I know how.

988
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: It ends of watching.

989
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: I do the same thing in Titanic, if it's on,

990
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I tune out before the ship sinks. Does anyone else

991
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: do that? Please tell me I'm not alone on this island.

992
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: I just want to hear a voice somewhere now. Twister

993
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: is the exception, because the people who made Twister had

994
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: the good sense to put like seven tornadoes in the movie,

995
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: so there really is no one climax. Yeah, the big

996
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: F five at the end as a climax, and I

997
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: got to hold onto the pipe and you know, swing

998
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: their feet in the air as the tornado goes right

999
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: over them.

1000
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: So realistic.

1001
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, Nig's exactly how it happens in real life.

1002
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: You can open your eyes fully in the middle of

1003
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: an E five tornado and just look up into it.

1004
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: That's how it happens, guys.

1005
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of that, but that

1006
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: is reality. Great soundtrack in Twister too. I don't know

1007
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: about the soundtrack in Dante's Peak, but yes, Pierce Brosden

1008
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: got shafted out of an Academy Award if he didn't

1009
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: win one for that movie. It's really embarrassing in several ways,

1010
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: how passionate I was about that response. So let me

1011
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: take a breath for a second. When we come back, though,

1012
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: got a question from Ethan about starting out in podcasting

1013
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: or media, et cetera, and also got a question from

1014
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: Chase that's nothing like that. He says, I don't care

1015
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: about quarterback. Who's gonna beat Georgia? Who could ever score

1016
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: enough to beat on Georgia. Well, I may have an answer,

1017
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I may not, but I'm gonna try my best right

1018
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: after this, So coming back here, Ethan says, I'm fifteen

1019
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: years old. I'm a sophomore in high school. I record

1020
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: a podcast about college football every week. I always watch

1021
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: every show you do. I love it. I just wanted

1022
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: to know if you have any tips for me for podcasting. Well,

1023
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: at fifteen, just get as many reps as you can, Ethan,

1024
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: which is the same advice I would give someone who

1025
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: is fifty. Get as many reps as you can. You

1026
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: gotta not be afraid to suck. I never heard your podcast, Ethan.

1027
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, if I would to have listened

1028
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: to myself at fifteen, I would have sucked.

1029
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: I have some footage of that. In fact, it's publicly available.

1030
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: I'll never tell you guys where it is, but it

1031
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: is available out there in the deep dark recesses of

1032
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: the Internet. But having said that, get repetition out of

1033
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: the way.

1034
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1035
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: A lot of you email me things like this. A

1036
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of you reach out in my Twitter DMS, and

1037
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: I've told you it's been a couple of weeks since

1038
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned this. I encourage you to reach out to me.

1039
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I've got an entire network of people that I kind

1040
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: of work alongside with on the side doing different things.

1041
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, some of you help the show out behind

1042
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: the scenes. Some of you helped me out with things

1043
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And so I've got spots open if

1044
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 1: you guys want to participate in that. But I also

1045
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: have spots open if you just want feedback you know,

1046
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: about how your work looks or sounds, advice. And I'm

1047
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: not telling you that I'm the end all, be all

1048
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: authority on this, but if you reach out. I am

1049
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: happy to talk to you about it, but repetition, there

1050
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: is no substitute for it now. Chase asked, regarding the

1051
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: uncertainty at quarterback for Georgia, can we actually believe anyone

1052
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: else outside of Alabama can even score enough points to

1053
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: beat them? I don't care about the questions. I mean, yeah,

1054
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: last year of South Carolina lucked into a win. What

1055
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: about Auburn's offense with bo Nicks Tennessee with Jarret Garantano.

1056
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: I understand it's easy to point to last year's Carolina

1057
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: loss and say, well, it happened, then it could happen again,

1058
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: But that was an outlier in the past three years,

1059
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: not the standard. And what he's talking about is the

1060
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: minus four turnover debacle that Georgia had against Carolina that

1061
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: led to one of the most shocking losses by a

1062
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: top ten team last year of any in the country.

1063
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Unless I'm forgetting something very notable and it is a

1064
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: distinct possibility, Chase, this is a good question.

1065
00:50:59,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1066
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's happened to that defense. No one's checked

1067
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: out on that defense, so they're all still there. I

1068
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: think it will be one of the best units in

1069
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: the country. And so that's the style they're going to

1070
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: have to play this year. Certainly I thought I already

1071
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: thought they were going to have to play it that way,

1072
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But that's the style they're

1073
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: going to have to play this year. What I'm saying,

1074
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: and what he's kind of suggesting is, Okay, we may

1075
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: not be able to run up forty five points a game,

1076
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: but who's to say that Georgia doesn't win every game

1077
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. And it's possible, It is very possible.

1078
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: I will say this. The one thing that I was

1079
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: looking at with Georgia and still looking at with Georgia

1080
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Really, ability to generate a pass

1081
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: rush is something that they've been working on for a

1082
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: couple of years now. They're still not really where they

1083
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: want to be. They have first world problems there, but

1084
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Speaker 1: they're not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Where they want to be.

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Speaker 1: But the other part is, you know, if they stay

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Speaker 1: healthy in the secondary, they're going to be great in

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Speaker 1: the secondary. If they have one or two guys go down,

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Speaker 1: or as I said the other day, if they have

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Speaker 1: an offense like in Alabama, who possesses the personnel packages

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Speaker 1: offensively to flex them into needing to be consistently in

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Speaker 1: a nickel or dime set. They are thin in their

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield behind a very impressive first wave of guys.

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Speaker 1: So those are the two things that if the defensive

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Speaker 1: effort were to go sideways for Georgia this year, it

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Speaker 1: would probably be tied to one of those two reasons.

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Speaker 1: Josh asks, excuse me, Joshua Wah asks, I have a

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Speaker 1: question about A M's offensive line. Huge concern consistently mentioned

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Speaker 1: by anyone covering the sport is inexperience in the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Since we're running four seniors this year with the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one season, will it be improved by better talent

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Speaker 1: or by losing experience?

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Speaker 2: Will we be hurt?

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way to know how to

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Speaker 1: gauge that right now, Josh. And the reason is because

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Speaker 1: of how active the transfer portal is. I mean, who's

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Speaker 1: to say, Jimbo Fisher doesn't feel how you feel right

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Speaker 1: now and go into the transfer portal in the off

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Speaker 1: season and get three junior or senior level tackles that

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Speaker 1: are really good just playing for bad programs. Who's to

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Speaker 1: say that A and M won't have a top three

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Speaker 1: offensive line this time next year, using guys who aren't

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Speaker 1: even on the roster right now. Not to mention the

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Speaker 1: recruiting that they've done. Okay, I don't think they've done

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Speaker 1: a bad job recruiting there So the mixture of recruiting

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Speaker 1: talent development, and the ability to supplement lack thereof with

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Speaker 1: options from the transfer market, I think it makes it

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Speaker 1: very hard to answer these kinds of questions. Now, Tom

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Speaker 1: is going to wrap us up today. Could be my

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Speaker 1: shortest answer of the entire podcast. Tom says, why does

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Speaker 1: everyone just pick Alabama like they're a de facto winner

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Speaker 1: already because they're the best.

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Speaker 2: Team in the SEC?

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Speaker 1: Tom, I like to be right. If I didn't like

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Speaker 1: to be right, i'd never pick Alabama to win.

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Speaker 2: But I like to be right.

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Speaker 1: So I have picked I was charting this the other day. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be the shortest answer. I was

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Speaker 1: charting this the other day. I have picked Alabama to

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Speaker 1: lose one game in the last decade, one and I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you you cannot guess. No, no, no, I've picked them

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Speaker 1: to lose two because the Auburn game this past year.

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Speaker 2: I picked them to lose.

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Speaker 1: So I have picked this team to lose two football

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Speaker 1: games in the past decade. They lost more than that.

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Speaker 1: My point is, there's not a whole lot of skill

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Speaker 1: in trying to predict which one they're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: So I just pick them because they're always favored, They're

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Speaker 1: always the better team in the game, and so I

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Speaker 1: picked who I think is the better team to win

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: the game nine times out of ten. The two games

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Speaker 1: I told you Auburn the Iron Bowl this last year

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Speaker 1: was one of them. What was the other game out

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Speaker 1: of all the games Alabama's playing in the last decade,

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Speaker 1: what is the one game that you think I picked

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Speaker 1: them to lose them?

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Speaker 2: The answer is.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twelve Texas A and M. Alabama, as a two

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Speaker 1: touchdown favorite loses to Johnny Manziel and the Texas A

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Speaker 1: and m Aggie's and yours truly documented folks picked Alabama

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Speaker 1: to lose that game. That, my friends, is skilled. I

1152
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Speaker 1: may not have done anything of note since then, but

1153
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: I picked Mamma to lose to an m and Johnny manzel.

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Speaker 1: I was a hero on local radio in Columbus for

1155
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Speaker 1: like a month after that. All Right, we gotta get

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Speaker 1: out of here. I got an episode of lak Kick

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Speaker 1: Live to do tonight. I gotta get this to Jordan

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Speaker 1: so he can edit it. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Five star reviews, five star reviews, five star reviews, dump

1160
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Speaker 1: them on us, share the podcast. You guys are doing

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Speaker 1: a great job with that already. Remember if you want

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Speaker 1: to submit a question for this, email me joshpat seven

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Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. You can DM me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Latekickjosh. Give me a follow there too,

1165
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Speaker 1: to seven Sports YouTube channel, look under the live video

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Speaker 1: the full length shows and there'll be a pinned comment

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Speaker 1: and you can reply to that comment with questions. All right,

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Speaker 1: With that being said for myself, for producer Jordan, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening. This has been Late Kick Extra.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Bate.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day and God bless