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Speaker 1: Hey, coach, just curious pass rush wise in terms of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's touch and go right

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Speaker 2: when we sent.

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Speaker 3: When we've been able to send some pressure and get

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Speaker 3: some blitzes and get these guys moving, we've had some

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Speaker 3: more opportunities.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting when you speak to.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the guys in LA after the game

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Speaker 3: and how much Matthew Stafford saw McVay. Multiple guys, all

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Speaker 3: they do is talk about our front and what it causes.

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Speaker 3: I think more you know, in the run and some

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Speaker 3: of the pressures and packages and guys that are that

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Speaker 2: So it's a fine it's a.

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Speaker 3: Balance of being able to send five, send fourth, send pressure,

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Speaker 3: whether it's zone or man behind. It also impacts sometimes

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Speaker 3: I think you look at our third downs and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think in the last two games they're like two

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Speaker 3: one of the most insane third downs going that you

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it has to improve, just like the rest

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Speaker 1: And just to be clear, obviously, you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're very happy with Trayvon, and obviously it's an unfair

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Speaker 1: assessment given the club the last two weeks. But in

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Speaker 1: terms of the other guys on the edge, knowing both

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Speaker 1: BJ and Dandy were up this week limited run on defense,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like you're getting enough out of Josh Smooth,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that you're always you want more

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Speaker 3: so I think that's the It's not just that group.

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Speaker 3: I think it's uh, you know, those guys know they

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Speaker 3: to be successful. You know, we're we hadn't played great

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Speaker 3: the last two weeks. These two teams have been able

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Speaker 3: third nine, we have a penalty. So it's it compounds.

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Speaker 3: When the team is able to stay on schedule, you're

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Speaker 3: And I think that those guys know they can play

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Speaker 2: Bit more as well.

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Speaker 1: Sweet thank you, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, Jamal, followed by Mark what was going on coach

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Speaker 4: games which are still four and three. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we just talked about as a as

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Speaker 3: we're sitting at four and three, everything's ahead of us,

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Speaker 3: you know it. We got to play cleaner football, guys.

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Speaker 3: That's the reality. And until you play cleaner in between

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Speaker 3: these two days that we have as a staff, all right,

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Speaker 3: eighty five percent of your calls, your call sheet. That's

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Speaker 3: just how I've been taught to get back on track.

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Speaker 2: Personally.

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Speaker 3: There's times, yeah, where you got to go and dig

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Speaker 3: We have not played our best the last two weeks

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great feeling. But everything's ahead of us

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Speaker 3: we have done so many good things. We are a

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Speaker 4: With Trevor running the offense, I mean, what have you

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Speaker 4: where are those kind of growth points for him maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know you looked at the last

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Speaker 3: interception was, as we know, you know, a tough, tough

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Speaker 3: We've got to start faster, like we have got to

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Speaker 3: start faster as an offense at the quarterback position, not

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Speaker 3: That's on us to also help.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Hey, these are the exactly what we're thinking

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Speaker 3: Hey, these are the calls, these are the thoughts, this

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Speaker 3: is the exact looks we're thinking about getting. How do

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Speaker 2: I mean, we we.

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Speaker 3: Were better in and out of the huddle last week.

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Speaker 3: it's the running back, it's the ol.

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Speaker 2: Those are things that we can't we can control. Thanks coach.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark, followed by Brent Man.

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Speaker 5: You make it sound so easy, like a piece of cake.

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Speaker 5: What about bringing in a kicker? Can you do that

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of confidence in camps still, bro. I do,

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Speaker 3: and the good, the bad, the ugly, whatever it is, we're.

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Speaker 2: Starting fresh when we get back in here. We have

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Speaker 3: He's very talented. And look when you walk him out there,

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Speaker 2: Something just all right, here we go, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, he strolls out there in a twenty

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Speaker 3: and you walk him out there for a fifty yarder

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Speaker 2: So it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Make these kicks. It's not he takes so much.

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Speaker 3: Accountability and so he's gonna kick his way out of

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Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd update, you expect him after the buy back.

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Speaker 5: And then penalties. That was the I think the one

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Speaker 5: thing you didn't really address there of about easily that's fixable.

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Speaker 5: That seems to be I mean, it's not easy. That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you look at him when I

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Speaker 2: You look at the top five.

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Speaker 3: So you got controllable penalties, you've got some uncontrollables, you've

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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about in general.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just that those ye happen and we are

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Speaker 3: Like moving our feet and coverage and and not like

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Speaker 3: hands being outside. Like there's a difference there. That's technique,

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Speaker 3: that's fundamental. That's not panicking at the moment of a truth.

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Speaker 3: We've got obviously the unncessary roughness on doing the end

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Speaker 2: You know you've got.

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Speaker 3: The rough in the past on you know that we

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Speaker 3: had two illegal ineligible men downfield on screens. Those are controllable.

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Speaker 3: Those are we can detail those better in practice, the

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Speaker 3: that's on us as coaches as well. So there's a

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Speaker 3: some bad luck. The look until we clean up our

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Speaker 3: And so that's the message and the amount of detail

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Speaker 2: And we got a penalty on it. It's like we're playing.

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Speaker 3: Half field and there's a seven cut and we hit

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Speaker 2: We can control that.

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Speaker 3: So the ones we can control by coaching and practicing

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Speaker 6: But what that's that's an interesting note that four out

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Speaker 3: Or new techniques knew what you're asking to do. New

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm kind of going off of, is like

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Speaker 3: of the like fundamentals get blurred. That's what I'm saying, guys,

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Speaker 3: You are anticipating what your opponent is doing, and now

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Speaker 3: you're playing cleaner. You're playing cleaner. I'm blocking mid zone

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Speaker 3: I mean, guys, there's a lot of teams in this

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Speaker 3: And I almost feel like, AH, got to emphasize.

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Speaker 2: It, Like I don't know how to emphasize it more.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I don't want to have these guys

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Speaker 3: now we're reaching and grabbing for straws. I mean, we're

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Speaker 3: of that goes into it, guys, you know, and so

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, Brent.

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Speaker 2: But that's my kind of long winded answer. Sorry, no,

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Speaker 6: One more thing. Seven games had been different than obviously

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Speaker 6: But do you feel like you know your football team,

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Speaker 3: I think there's definitely glimpses of who we want to

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Speaker 2: I think this is an actual test of adversity.

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Speaker 3: You know, when we lost to Cincinnati, I didn't think

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Speaker 3: You didn't feel like the ship was movement. It was

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Speaker 3: not playing very well and against some darn good opponents.

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Speaker 3: And when you don't play very well and you're not

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Speaker 3: reality is what we need to do better is we

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Speaker 3: this is not a fun result that we're living in

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Shipley Helliam, I know you guys are gonna look at

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Speaker 8: How do you think you would assess Travis's performance to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is absolutely going to be a

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought that there was.

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Speaker 3: Some definite flashes yesterday in terms of on offense specifically

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Speaker 3: So that will one hundred percent be a part of

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you last one Shipley.

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Speaker 7: Alei, thanks for doing this. It seemed like the Ferguson

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the same exact play versus a very

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Speaker 2: It was fourth and one.

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Speaker 3: at is in these situations, in these personnel groupings, exactly

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Speaker 2: That we can put these guys in.

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Speaker 7: Excellent, appreciate it, thank you, all set.

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