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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Kaylie Shore and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say asking questions it out you. Okay, So I'm

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Speaker 1: still in Los Angeles. I'm having a wonderful fucking time.

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend Sam just met me out here and we

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Speaker 1: really fucking cool show that my friends I'm Dave Aiden

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Speaker 1: and um Jacob Child do. It was just David, but

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Speaker 1: improv musician ship and um, Jacob has Grammys. There some

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Speaker 1: but I had a little bit too much fun, and

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Speaker 1: so Sam and I had a horror hangover yesterday when

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Speaker 1: I wrote a due out with my friend KLi Roadi

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Speaker 1: That'd be super fun. But moral story. I'm still exactly

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Speaker 1: episode last week and just feeling absolutely wonderful. So that

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Speaker 1: being said, let's get mad about something from the past,

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Speaker 1: because I'm feeling so good right now. Um, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about purity culture. So, for those of you who have

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Speaker 1: And I let's see the exactly the exact definition of

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Speaker 1: Christian fundamentalism is movement emphasizing biblical literalism. Um. It's um

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Speaker 1: such as like it's very it's very conservative and maybe

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Speaker 1: But like, so why did why can't like why couldn't

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you're the CEO of a company, you

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Speaker 1: and um, but thank you guys for listening. Uh. Kind

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Speaker 1: of a difficult topic if you guys want to share

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Speaker 1: your stories with me, like regarding this, like for the

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Speaker 1: part two, Like, I don't know if any of you

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Speaker 1: guys have personal experiences. I'm assuming many of you do. UM,

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Speaker 1: but you can drop me a message on Twitter. That's

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Speaker 1: the best way to reach me. UM, drop me a

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Speaker 1: d M on there. And also the link for my

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Speaker 1: discord uh is in the description of this. I've been

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Speaker 1: having a lot of fun on there like chatting with

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Speaker 1: you guys. So join my discord and I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys next week. Thanks so much. I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: sure and this is too much to say. Don't ask questions,

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Speaker 1: now tell it out you